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1. D. Throat - 3 July 2006

Lieberman is not a fool.. he is a staunchly loyal Republican and unlike Dems they BELEIVE in their issues and will do all in their power to promote their AGENDA.

Lieberman has a GOP posse

He knows damn well what he is doing and you can bet his campaign strategerie has been coordinated with Rove. My prediction: Lamont wins the primary then there is a three way race between Lamont, the GOPer and Lieberman… if it looks like Lamont will win… either the GOPer will step out for Lieberman or Lieberman will stay in just to ensure splitting the Dem vote ensuring that the GOPer will win…

GOPers have three chances to win whereas the Dems have only one… the Fat Lady hasn’t even put on her corsette yet… we are in for a bumpy ride…

2. D. Throat - 3 July 2006

You have a senator being punished by left-wing bloggers and activists who seek to kill him and bring his head to Washington on a pike to show all those centrists and moderates throughout the country who would wander from the liberal dogmatic line,” says former Connecticut state Democratic Party Chairman John Droney.

Why the fuck are they insisting that their is something “left” about Kos… this was the same shit in the NH article:

State Democratic Party Chairwoman Kathy Sullivan was alarmed – until she started reading the hundreds of comments readers posted to the Kos entries, many of whom defended New Hampshire’s primary tradition and accused Kos of sour grapes over Howard Dean’s loss to John Kerry.

yeah right…

Clinton said the Dean-led DNC should stop messing with the start of the nominating calendar.

“I think the timing was very coincidental,” Sullivan said, given Kos’s strong support for Dean as president and DNC chairman. “(It) makes me curious as to why the day after the most popular Democrat in the country and the most astute political one in the country comes out and says the DNC is making a mistake that Kos then goes on this rampage.”

WTF are they smoking

3. marisacat - 3 July 2006

hmm I am unsure what is happening. I’d watch the money for Lamont. And his spending.

Quite a few orgs that a few months ago felt they could put money elsehwere than Joe L, are now ramping up the War Effort.

If I thought Lamont were other than ”ether puffed” (Kos kidz) and his soft talk againt Iraq War is just zzz-snore-zzz for me. … this just seems a strange triangulation, shall we say.

Obviously Cyber Buccaneers wanna make their bones – and deliver for whomever pulls the strings…

Fun to watch. Opera Glasses. I can follow this so far with the old Paris Opera glasses… no need for the high powered binoculars. Not yet.

Popcorn

4. D. Throat - 3 July 2006

In other news… Rahm Emanuel is still a bitch.

It seems he has once again he has gotten his tutu in a twist and sent the DNC his grocery bill.

Emanuel, who reportedly stormed out of a May meeting with Dean, penned a letter, dated June 22, to the party chairman demanding $100,000 per targeted district from the DNC to defray the cost of the DCCC’s proposed field operation, several individuals who have read the letter said.

Attached to the letter was a sample field plan for a district, itemizing various projected expenses, down to details such as $1,500 for T-shirts.

Remember Rahm is the same whiny fuck up that spent over ONE MILLION DOLLARS to defeat a DEMOCRAT in the Il. primaries.…

That was 10 “targetted races” that Rahm pissed away in ONE race that we propably won’t even win in the general.

How is Tammy doing…??? The BBB are suddenly quiet and the rat-ta-tat-tat of “Fighting Dem” has quieted down considerably….

Clowns to the left of me… and jokers to the right

5. marisacat - 3 July 2006

Quite a few beloved Fightin’ Dems dropped out. Ashe in Va for one, but Whooops! now they fund raise for Kissel (who took the Dem nom). And Ashe was again easily offered a spot in the Kaine admin.

I heard money coming in for some was slow. LOL.

As for the ”left / liberal”, that has been there from the beginning. Again, might as well laugh.

Kos revealed what a rightie he was post loss. Til then he needed to suck in the liberals and their money. For his 12 who lost. And in most cases no shock they lost.
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By summer of 2004 I stopped to think and realised that I had no idea, after almost two years of reading him, at a political site remember, no idea what his beliefs were.

Quite the scammer. Which I think is the bottom line. And bubbles bubbles bubbles.

He will forever be labled “left”. And it will naturally acrue to any supposed insurgent move that is not hard right.

“angry” he wins for that one and they gift him wtih “left”.

Kind of a rightie pugilist. And living in E Bay, Berkeley area helps people lable him “left”.

Basicly that is it. It won’t be going away.

6. D. Throat - 3 July 2006

If you really look at it the Republicans NEED Lieberman much more than the Dems

At least for the next two years just in case they do not hold on to the WH. With Lieberman they can usher in a new SCOTUS nominee… even Bowers praised Lieberman on his abilitiy to defang the filibuster. Then there is that tantalizing war just waiting in Iran that Lieberman will be invaluable to stamp it with BI PARTISAN appeal. Last but not least the crowing glory of Lieberman’s boss reign: the final dismantaling of Social Security.

You betta believe that the GOP will come out guns ablazing for their Joe….Hannity, O’Reilly, Couties… and as much face time with Leslie Blitzer, Pumpkinhead on MTP, Fox and CNN he wants… perphaps a few photo ops with the Great One himself. Or maybe Lieberman can have his own photo op holding fake stuffed chicken burned to a crisp in Mahmudiyah

7. marisacat - 3 July 2006

To be honest, I think they like him. There will be plenty of Democratic votes for any war.

I jsut don’t get that lieberman is so different. He LIKES TV, he likes to go on all the cables… end of story. he is public in his sell outs of the party. Meanwhile what does anyone think Ben Nelson SAYS on the phone with Dobson? And any number of other.

I just don’t see the hard core Blue Dogs – hard core DLC … as any different.

And I think Lamont, should he make it – and now it will get really tough – would be weak.

People love to prattle on about Newsome here in SF. DLC all the way babee. People need to THINK harder. Then think again.

8. D. Throat - 3 July 2006

I still say that it is just Billiary clearing the decks..

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Lieberman was a pain in Bill’s ass and a backstabber… the first to call for Bill’s impeachment because of a blow job…cuz he’so Holy yunno.. yet gives this one a blow job instead.. This is payback pure in simple… I am sure that the Clintons are chinking their champagne glasses today watching Joey-Boy sweat….

9. D. Throat - 3 July 2006

Hill has even stepped into a leadership position in the DLC …least anyone suspect where her loyalties lie once Joe is gone…

this is NOT ideological… it is just a plain vanilla turf war

10. marisacat - 3 July 2006

she did that… step into dlc leadership spot… LAST year… lol.
kos uses that to defend the family ”jewel”, as not being the ”dlc candidate”… who needs the dlc when you have jerome/kos – and the stars align… .

11. AlanSmithee - 3 July 2006

Hi Marisacat!

Lieberman is just KO$’ whipping boy du-jour. However, in KO$’ own words: “Once the primaries are over, I’m happy to get behind whoever wins.” It’ll be interesting to see which way he shakes after the Sept CT primary.

Meanwhile, KO$ and his friend/boss Emperor Rahmses aren’t doing so well on the “Fightin’ Dem” front. Far from the bangup success they’d have the party faithful believe, 12 of the 93 have dropped out and 19 have lost primaries to local insurgent democrats. As it stands, the best chance a RahmPuppet has winning a primary is not to have any opposition. (Their record currently stands at 19 – 11 – 19.)

12. marisacat - 3 July 2006

Alan Smithee oh thanks for the body count… LOL.

12 of 93… and that 93 was pretty bloated, in terms of flying as “Fighting Dems”…. If you had ever been inside even ROTC you got labeled FD. It smacked of desperation. And busy owrk for Kos and AAR… which between Danny Goldberg et al is fully a part of this sludge fest.

yeah Rahm. Long ago, well 11 months ago when one of the smaller Blahggs let loose that “stipends” were coming for blogs… One thing that seemed clear was that DSCC and DC3 might easily slide some to the boys for “product enhancement”.

I noticed a cute soft sell, come into my spider webb to see my etchings and my dead flies kind of soft set up, a FP piece and thread at one of the smaller tied-in retail political sites… as a former Fper at Kos, one I consdiered a fake lefty activist “beard” … tries his hand at online organising.

Oh, maybe they do it for the love, spelled luuuv, of politics. yeah sure.

13. JJB - 4 July 2006

Have to say, I love all of this, from odious Kaus using his toothless gums to gnaw away at the ankles of equally odious Kos (”Kaus v. Kos,” someone should alert Vince McMahon so he can work up an act for them on his wrestling program), to the Trials of Holy Joe, whose decision to circulate balloting petitions is motivated either by calamitous internal poll results or sheer panic (I don’t thing HJ has the strongest of stomachs and may well be making a completely unnecessary move that will backfire disastrously). Were I resident in Connecticut I have to admit I’d be working full bore for Lamont, I simply cannot stand anyone as santimonious and full of himself as HJ, with his “higher loyalties” (to what, one wonders), just one more grubby, sleazy pol, probably grubbier and sleazier than most. Then again, the Senate is turning into a club into which only the wealthy can gain entry, and Lamont is yet one more furthering of that trend if he wins. Perhaps he is motivated in part by some genuine principle, but he’s more than likely also driven by the idea that with HJ so vulnerable, he can both (in effect) buy a Senator’s vote, and provide himself with a base for lobbying in DC. No doubt the technie in him thrills to perform such a synergetic act.

Anyway, I hope Lamont wins, even though I hold out no great hope he’ll be any kind of “progressive” (by which I mean the equivalent of European “social democratic”) presence in the Senate. At least he’ll keep a much lower profile than HJ, and concern himself with back door manuvers to enrich himself as opposed to proving his scrupulous purity, demonstrating his outstanding moral character, and indulging in pro-Likudnik warmongering. And if HJ does win the primary, I hope the Republican wins the general election.

I mean, does it really matter any more? Damn few Dems have stood up to this President’s warmongering, and Congress has pretty much allowed itself to become superfluous. They did it in October 2002 with the war resolution, and as just about no one noticed, they did it again just two weeks ago:

For a number of weeks, congressional Republicans and administration spokespersons have been setting the stage with the same poisonous “props” of rogue states, terrorism, and weapons of mass destruction they used in 2002 against Iraq. Their apparent goal is to convince the public that Iran, like Iraq, is a menace to its neighbors, to the United States, and to the world.
Some in the administration have also asserted that the October 2002 resolution for the use of force against Iraq was so worded that it remains in force for any contemplated military action against Iran. That is, the president can launch a war without getting further congressional assent.

Which gets us to approximately 7:35pm on the night of June 20, 2006, in the House of Representatives, where Democratic Congressman Maurice Hinchey introduced an amendment to the 2007 Defense Department Appropriations bill. The amendment reads: “None of the funds made available in this Act may be used to initiate military operations against Iran except in accordance with Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States.”

The amendment should be superfluous in that it merely reaffirms the existing constitutional division of powers between Congress and the president in time of war. Specifically, except in the event that the United States is about to be attacked or is attacked – at which point the president can deploy the armed forces to counter imminent or actual hostilities – the president is to request Congress’ assent to make war. This would include any attack on Iran. In commenting on his amendment, Hinchey affirmed that its purpose is “to make sure that none of the funding in this defense appropriations bill is used to engage in any military operation against Iran without a full vote of the Congress of the United States in accordance with the constitution of the United States”.

Republican Congressman Bill Young spoke against the amendment by reiterating the discredited administration claim of connections between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, a claim that was used to induce the House to approve the October 2002 resolution 296-133. Young was rebutted by Democrat Peter Defazio, who asked the House to “stand up for” and reclaim its constitutional powers.

The presiding officer then put the amendment to a “vote” and declared that the “nays” were in the majority – at which point Hinchey demanded a roll-call vote.

Now at 7:50pm, most members would not normally be in the chamber. Members would be eating dinner or be at social gatherings; many of their staffers would be gone from their offices, quite unaware that starting after 9pm, additional roll-call votes would be held. Putting these factors together with the supposition that many Members were not aware of the exact language of Hinchey’s amendment as they voted – ie, mistaking the reaffirmation of Congress’ role for an attempt to limit presidential authority to act to repel an imminent attack – the combined circumstances defeated the amendment 158-262, with 12 members (six from each party) not voting.

In October 2002 the White House deceived the Congress and the public, inducing Congress – in the administration’s interpretation – to abandon its constitutional responsibilities in matters of war-making.

This “fool me once” has inflicted on the world 39 months of bloody occupation and war in Iraq.

Now the House has once again, in effect, abandoned its role in any future decision about the need for and the wisdom of initiating war in the name of the people they represent – creating a vacuum the administration will eagerly fill.

That article appeared in Asia Times Online (which also has some interesting pieces on the Iran situation). The author is a retired US Army Colonel by the name of Dan Smith. It was originally posted at the website of Foreign Policy In Focus, which describes itself as “a think tank without walls.” I note that Col. Smith wrote a piece a few weeks ago that threw a fair amount of cold water on the notion that the death of al-Zarqawi meant very much in terms of ending the anarchic violence in Iraq. Note his conclusion:

Just two days ago, U.S. media carried the following lead paragraph:

“Military commanders in the field in Iraq admit in private reports to the Pentagon the war “is lost” and that the U.S. military is unable to stem the mounting violence killing 1,000 Iraqi civilians a month.”

That is a long way of saying that “war is not the answer.”

That’s about the most succinct way of making that obvious point I’ve seen.

BTW, bet you didn’t know the CIA disbanded the unit devoted to tracking Osama bin-Laden late last year. The NYT isn’t exactly trumpeting this news either, burying it way down on their index page on a day when people generally don’t read the paper, either online or in the print edition.

Happy Fourth of July. If I try hard enough, maybe I’ll be able to think of a reason to celebrate it.

14. D. Throat - 4 July 2006

He claims to be a ‘JFK Democrat’. But JFK was cool. And good-looking.

What is most striking about Kos FPeeing, Stoller a MyDDer is not the inaness of it all… it is Stoller for crying out loud… not the brightest bulb in the box… what is MOST STRINKING IS WHAT IS MISSING from a MyDDer FPeeing on Daily KOS….

anyone …anyone… Bueller…

that’s right… Stoller FPeed all over DK about what is WRONG with Lieberman and NOT ONCE mentioned in the orginal tirade (Stoller had to update it from the comments):

IRAQ

Nor is the dreaded country mentioned in the assists post of McJoan and FDL… Let’s see how long they can continue to bash Lieberman WITHOUT mentioning Iraq The Condo Owners Network….strikes again. Not one of the gazillion posts Kos wrote about Leiberman mentions IRAQ.

Mustn’t poison the well for Hilliary…the pretense that they haven’t been working for her for months now is getting to be ludicrous…

What I come to realize is that the only difference between the left and rigt wing of the Democratic Party is that the left wing fights for issues and ideologies the better all people whereas… the right wing fights for power for their personal gain and couldn’t give a shit about anyone but them selves… that is what NON IDEOLOGICAL really means…

15. D. Throat - 4 July 2006

The BBB and Hilliary:

This has been building up for a long time, and is directed a wide number of people online, rather than anyone in particular.

Just looking at the comments to a post of mine from earlier today reminds me just how ugly a place the blogosphere might be during the Presidential primary season. I am generally an optimist who believes that you can engage just about anyone online in a reasonable discussion. However, whenever I bring up Hillary, I honestly can’t believe how many idiotic progressives there are who will clearly stop at nothing in order to assist the long-term Republican goal of making sure that no potential Democratic leader has a favorable image nationwide. I am absolutely flabbergasted by the level of stupidity and denial of reality who many progressive who trash Hillary Clinton in particular. As much as many people on the left would like to believe, the right does not have a monopoly on idiocy. I honestly think I am reading FreeRepublic sometimes when she comes up. There is absolutely no way I am voting for her in the primary, but I simply can’t believe the number of patently false, easily disprovable arguments many “progressives” use against her no matter what evidence is shown to contradict said arguments. I have written about this before, but I am now of the opinion that there is simply no evidence that will ever convince a small but vocal and anti-social chunk of the netroots that she is anything short of the AntiChrist. Even if she is the nominee, these people are going to close the triangle on Clinton in exactly the manner Republicans desire, and Tom Tancredo, or Bill Frist, or Condi Rice, or whoever will be the next President. As long as there is no shortage of Democrats who are willing to say the same things about Clinton as Republicans do, anything Republicans say about her will be reified in the established news media, and the narrative against her will be forged in steel (this is exactly how the Lieberman wing of the Democratic party destroyed the left in the 1990’s, by the way). For the love of crap, if you are going to write against Clinton, do so in a way that Republicans never would. Good arguments would include her being too hawkish, too insider, too centrist. Bad arguments would include her being too ambitious, having too much baggage, being unelectable, and being too insincere, since that is the narrative Republicans have long sought to tie her with. Then again, I don’t even know why I am bothering to say this, because the people who froth at the mouth against Hillary in our comments probably honestly believe that there is no difference between Hillary and Tom Tancredo.

Absolute fucking morons. I am not going to come within several miles of working or supporting Hillary Clinton in the primaries, but I will not, ever, repeat Republican arguments about a fellow Democrat, especially when such talking points are designed to tear down Democratic leaders. We might as well just start saying that Howard Dean is an incredibly angry member of the far left who will say anything that comes to his mind, or that Al Gore is a pathological liar with no personality and nearly insane. If you say that Hillary Clinton an insincere, overly ambitious, scandal-ridden woman who can’t get elected but will say or do anything in order to get elected, you are exactly the same as DLC losers like From or Reed who happily repeat Republican lies about Howard Dean. If you can’t recognize that, then you will do nothing but drag the progressive movement further down the festering rat-hole that we seem to perpetually find our electoral fortunes mired in. If you can’t recognize that, I will also tell you, now that we are only eight months out from the start of the primary season, that I don’t want you coming within several miles of making a comment or writing a diary on MyDD. This is one blog where Republican narratives will never be reified.

Me thinks the BBB doth protest too much….

In other words MyDD is a will have a “Free Speech” zone on Hilliary… elsewhere….got it NO BAD TALKING HILLIARY ON MYDD.

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