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Posted by marisacat in 2006 Mid Terms, Beirut, Big Box Blogs, DC Politics, Iraq War, Israel/AIPAC, WAR!.
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Matthews had a special Sunday hour today on the increased-ever-ongoing-but-spreading hostilities.  Or The Wars.  Martin Fletcher who reports from the ME for NBC/MSNBC, not a raving leftie! said that the two soldiers were largely ”an excuse”, the IDF/Israel had wanted to do just what is unfolding for “five years”.  No surprise, I am just glad it got said. If there is a transcript put up tomorrow I will post it.  

[hell, 10 PM in the West, I am just catching MTP, Fletcher said the same thing. transcript, it also seems pretty clear that Gingrich wants to run... no news there = I guess ]

From an ABC AP round up piece 

But both Israel and Hezbollah signaled that their attacks would only intensify in an already brutal battle that has killed at least 152 in Lebanon and 23 in Israel.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert vowed “far-reaching consequences” for the Haifa attack, Hezbollah’s deadliest strike ever on Israel. The morning barrage of 20 rockets came after Israeli warplanes unleashed their heaviest strikes yet on Beirut, flattening apartment buildings and blowing up a power station to cut electricity to swaths of the capital. [...]

Along with the Lebanon attacks, Israel attacked along the second front where Israel is fighting, in Gaza. Fighter jets bombed the Palestinian Foreign Ministry in Gaza City, and clouds of smoke rose from the building, which has been hit before. [...]

In Israel, Haifa a bustling port city of 270,000 people was brought to a standstill. The streets were eerily quiet as residents huddled in bomb shelters or stocked up on milk, bread and other staples.

“It’s a war, it’s an emergency situation and it will get worse,” said Sharon Goldstein, a 34-year-old security guard.

And this AP report via Anti-War, is the simple truth, I do believe.  I guess we are left to be thankful somebody says it.  In this case the Army Chief of Staff.

WASHINGTON – The Army’s top uniformed officer said Friday he did not think the United States was losing the war in Iraq but declined to say the nation was winning.

Americans should brace for a long fight against terrorism, said Gen. Peter Schoomaker, the Army’s chief of staff.

“I believe that we are closer to the beginning . . . than we are to the end,” he said during a luncheon on Capitol Hill sponsored by the Defense Forum Foundation.

… It is a short piece and just loaded with bitter truth…

Schoomaker said Friday he does not envision reducing the time soldiers spend deployed in Iraq because shorter combat tours would cause too much “turbulence” in the war. Soldiers are typically sent for yearlong deployments in Iraq, which many experts say is too long and stressful.

Liz Sly of the Chicago Tribune cabs it from Demascus to Beirut

MASNAA, Lebanon — At the border crossing between Syria and Lebanon, the taxi driver becomes jumpy. Israeli jets had struck the area hours earlier, and they could strike again at any time. He wants to move on as fast as possible.

That isn’t hard. At 10 p.m. on the third day of Israel’s strike against Lebanon, there are few travelers in either direction. Beirut’s airport has been bombed and so has the port, cutting air and sea links between Lebanon and the outside world. The roads are the only way in and out of the country, and they aren’t safe either.
War is always with us… and, you got it, the arms dealers cheer!

And so is jetsam, always with us, I mean!… in over the transom [Thank You Ma'am] is this tidbit … an hors d’oeuvre… but read in a certain way, a laugh is to be had. 

BTW, “Kossack” is seriously out of handand considering it started as a joke… rully rully out of hand.   A bigger laugh is the photo that accompanies this Hispanic Magazine article [thanks to Deepest Troat]. 

ENJOY!  … that photo is primed to go, imo.

hmmm… more than the Righties are setting up what they need for that marshmallow and weenie roast if Lamont fails to clear the high hurdle (everything is a horse race!) and WIN.  Catch this in the Toledo Blade.  Oh yes yes, just the writer’s opinion (which I think is more or less center/right).

HIGH noon approaches for the moonbats. We’ll soon know if they’ll sit above the salt at the Democratic table, or be exiled to the outer darkness.

High noon is Aug. 8, the date of the Connecticut primary. The “netroots” gang of left-liberal Web loggers have picked a fight they must win, or suffer a potentially catastrophic loss of face. [...]

Most in the Democratic establishment regard the Kossacks as a force to be reckoned with. Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean, and presidential hopefuls Mark Warner, Wesley Clark, Tom Vilsack, and Bill Richardson were among the dignitaries who attended a conference Kos sponsored in Las Vegas in June.

 ooo that makes the Dems look so good, doesn’t it?  What a mess… they’re following a Pied Piper Munchkin.   Flotsam found Jetsam.  Oh yes, not exactly what is going on, but what the not too interested eye will see.  And remember, the Lieberman CT issues are national interest level.  Bowers says so…

The Internet has given lefty bloggers and the Democratic politicos intimidated by them an exaggerated sense of their strength, said the Web logger Silflay Hraka:

“Say one 10-member anti-globalist organization in San Francisco comes into contact with another 10-member group in Seattle. Each feels that their membership and political power has doubled, when in fact nothing of the sort has occurred. Communication … is enhanced, but the actual number of votes has not changed at all.”

The Connecticut primary will separate fantasy from reality, Mr. Hraka said:

“If the Leftnet cannot elect a candidate of their own choosing in a Democratic primary in one of the most liberal states in the union, then they can’t win elections, period,” he said.

 Not a Deaniac (but supported Howard from July 2002 – tho not for the chair).  Not a moonbat (but was a ”bat outta hell”, breathless to leave the party on Nov 3) and NOT, never, never!, a ”Kossack”. 

 ”Once upon a time” I posted at a pretty smart, not stupid, not dittoing, not blissed-out, not cultish political site. Not a “community” either (quick as wink you get “leaders”, gah!), an ad hoc gathering of adults to discuss politics. 

 And it sure as hell was not self-celebritising. Self-celebratory? Tho the owner, I do believe, was desirous of making it all of that.  Right about now, remember the pic in the Hispanic Magazine.  I was kind, it’s a click away.

About where it is at.  Oh yeah… I am not done… but I think they knew that.

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UPDATE:  5:15 am, PT

Socialist Worker Online (UK) has eyewitness reports from the ground in Lebanon.  This a haunting one:

Terror in Sabra and Chatilla refugee camps
12 noon (British time), 17 July 2006

Alaa, a Palestinian refugee living in the Sabra and Chatilla, spoke to Socialist Worker

“The camps are almost completely empty. There is a fear that the Israelis will return and finish what they did during the massacre in 1982. Some have gone to Syria, others have taken to the shelters.”

“There is not enough food. We fear the worst, we have nowhere to hide. We are preparing for an Israeli attack on our camp.”

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UPDATE, 6:00 am, PT

Paper Tigress at Nur-al-Cubicle has this:

Sunday, July 16, 2006

Israel using banned weapons

Lebanese military experts confirm the use by Israel of implosion bombs and white phosphorus in its airstrikes on Beirut’s southern suburbs. Reporters have seen at the facades of at least 20 eight-story apartment houses blow off in the Haret Hreik and Bir al-Abed neighborhoods.

Meanwhile 15 thousand refugess have arrived in Tyre, which the Israelis immediately upgraded to “prime target”.

no link, PT indicated in a comment she was translating an Italian dispatch.

ABC reported that we are charging US citizens, the few we have evacuated, for the flight to Cyprus.  Nasty engineered war and if you are so out of the loop that you are in the area, you pay for the evacuation.

Lordy!

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UPDATE: 6:26 am, PT

picked this up over at Angry Arab, from the Independent (UK)

The Afghan government has alarmed human rights groups by approving a plan to reintroduce a Department for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, the body which the Taliban used to enforce its extreme religious doctrine.

The proposal, which came from the country’s Ulema council of clerics, has been passed by the cabinet of President Hamid Karzai and will now go before the Afghan parliament.

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WHUP all the PUPS UPDATE, 7:30 am, PT…

not taking any prisoners even if I don’t know all the playas!  Have a laugh, I will never sort this one out – but lurching ahead to have an opinon anyway!… and it is lookin’ messy on all sides:

Looks like Greenwald is calling for some investigation (oh yeah, like Greater Blogland can do that and not lose it’s brains in the deal) of rightie bloggers.  OK… whatever!  Summer beach readingRiehl World View piles on — and this does seem to be a biiig mess this post… 

HOWEVER, Donkey Cons (not endorsing the whole post there either!… Cats are not dumb!) makes some very pointed points – which I DO endorse…(glad you read this far?):

Moonbat Patrol
Dan Riehl examines the increasingly bizarre paranoid projections of a left-wing blogger, which seem to have been touched off in the wake of the Kosola/JeromeGate meltdown and the frightening Frisch freakout.


Greenwald, it seems, is calling for an investigation of right-wing bloggers. But Glenn, here’s the thing: When did Jeff Goldstein or Glenn Reynolds

(a) hold online fund-raising drives for Republicans,

(b) become consultants to leading GOP candidates,

(c) organize a campaign to unseat an incumbent Republican senator, or

(d) hold a Vegas convention, invite the national media, lots of top candidates, and declare themselves the future of American politics? 

[the a b c d is what I endorse... that is part of the Boyz problems... they preened, they peacocked, they paraded... ]

Answer: Never. Kos and Jerome did all that, thus exposing themselves to scrutiny. I can’t explain what happened to Frisch except a possible object lesson in why drinking and blogging don’t mix.

 Total disclaimer and full on walk away, I know nothing about the Frisch mess.  Have not followed.  Have no opinion.

 Poke fun… this was not a fully informed posting, but nonetheless it was FUN.  All that matters.

 Unless, of course, you think with the likes of the tied-together-for-better-or-worse-so-called-Lefty Blahhhggers working full-time on things Democratic that ’06 will be a blow-out and ’08 a piece of cake. In which case be reverential…

 Since I am expecting little, I intend to amuse myself.

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UPDATE:  9:20 am, PT

 Well WHUP THE TRANSPARENCY Update… have a big big horselaugh. [thanks to Deepest Troat... there are several throats, hope i got the right one]

Ooops! DT also provided the year ago notice that Kos ran about DA: 

One year ago Kos introduced DA:

The alliance is the brainchild of longtime Democratic strategist Rob Stein, who spent years studying conservative groups — in particular their success in sustaining GOP politicians and achieving many of their policy goals. Simon Rosenberg, president of the New Democrat Network, is working with Stein and is a leading promoter of his effort.

 They wanna help the Dems (they say!  I don’t fully believe them!).. but they wanna be secret.  And sign off on being secret, too.

Too funny.  Read away.

and I hear there is a routine going on at another site – about La Gata.  The sun shines and little birdies sing.  Here is the deal:  despite various and sundry at that site from time to time over the year (and I have the links), I never felt the need to register and reply or comment.  Further I considered anything there, FPed or from a principal [wrt anyone also being chastised at DKos, or from Dkos and the Thugs] to be Armando driven.  Still do.

And still don’t feel the need to register and comment at the site where the effluvia is rising.

Back to reading about the (laugh now)  BIG SECRET LIBERAL (oh puh leeeze) DONORS…. page A01 in the Wapo.

“Like a lot of elite groups, we fly beneath the radar,” said Guy Saperstein, an Oakland lawyer and alliance donor. But “we are not so stupid though,” he said, to think “we can deny our existence.”

whew!  Not stupid.  Sooo relieved.

Still reading.  But here is one thing I think… CAP does wonderful research.  I recently read an analysis at their site on access to birth control, rates of unintended pregnancy and abortion among one of the most challenged groups in CA, SE Asian immigrants.  It looked at the issues down into sub groups within the larger population.

 But the Dems don’t use any of that.  National Dems, DC Dems… and I don’t mean limited to abortion stats in poor Asian CA groups… I mean all the good research at CAP.

Lotta Three Card Monte going on.  I think a lot of that “liberal” money is funding online consensus and shushing opposition.  And doing it with money.

Oh yeah, just my opinion.  But at least I have mine.  And they are rock solid. 

Don’t miss this:

This accreditation process is the root of Democracy Alliance’s influence. If a group does not receive the alliance’s blessing, dozens of the nation’s wealthiest political contributors as a practical matter become off-limits for fundraising purposes.

Big huge horselaugh, just a long whinny:

Democracy Alliance organizers say they are trying to bring principles of accountability and capital investment that are common in business to the world of political advocacy, where they believe such principles have often been missing.

Gets to the nitty gritty on Page 3:

But some consider Democracy Alliance’s hidden influence troubling, regardless of its ideological orientation. Unlike election campaigns, which must detail contributions and spending, most of the think tanks and not-for-profit groups funded by the alliance are exempt from public disclosure laws.

“It is a huge problem,” said Sheila Krumholz, the acting executive director of the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. She noted that for decades “all kinds of Democrats and liberals were complaining that corporations and individuals were carrying on these stealth campaigns to fund right-wing think tanks and advocacy groups. Just as it was then, it is a problem today.”

The exclusive donor club includes millionaires such as Susie Tompkins Buell and her husband, Mark Buell, major backers of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), and Chris Gabrieli, an investment banker running for the Democratic gubernatorial nomination in Massachusetts this September. [...]

Bernard L. Schwartz, retired chief executive of Loral Space & Communications Inc. and an alliance donor, said the group offers partners “an array of opportunities that have passed their smell test.” This is most helpful, he said, for big donors who lack the time to closely examine their political investment options.[...]

There also are a few “institutional investors” such as the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) that pay a $50,000 annual fee and agree to spend $1 million on alliance-backed efforts.

Trickle down to the Blahhgers is thru Media Matters and NDN.  NO news there.

From an earlier posting of mine in BBB: Orange Crush… :: Navelling Update :: Whup Uppity Update :: Drahma Wahma Update 8 July 2006

And the look back. With “slander” as a topic (or was that an implied warning?) you know there was a heavy hand that meddled in this posting.  hmmmm.

The whole of this is very interesting, but catch the comment that, in lawyerly tone, leveled some questions. 

The same questions were sent to Media Matters.  There were no responses. 

I have x’d out the poster’s name (but of course it can be found in the thread) merely as a courtesy.  To my knowledge, this individual does not participate any longer, at all, on the political blogs.

Re: Ideas on Slander (none / 1)

There is indeed some money coming soon to liberal bloggers. That money is coming through Media Matters, which has received some funding through the Democracy Alliance (an arm of the NDN), but a lot of funding from other sources as well. The money is going to be made available for a variety of purposes that will potentially benefit all liberal bloggers. There are no strings attached, there will be no quid pro quos, and there will be no mandated talking points. The idea is really not that different from an artist cooperative where various photographers, for example, pool their limited resources to buy color printers. In this case, cheap or free technical support might become available. Or access to Lexis-Nexis. Maybe broadband can be bought in bulk. Who knows? These things are still under discussion.

to whom is media matters distributing this money?  who gets to decide how that money is spent and which liberal blogs will benefit from it.  these things are still under discussion by whom?

Smaller bloggers stand to benefit the most as liberal blogging gets more publicity and costs come down and expensive resources are pooled.

how will small bloggers benefit the most?  what expensive resources are going to be pooled?  who decides who will get to participate in that pool?  

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by xxxxx (xxxxxx at aol.com) on Wed Dec 7th, 2005 at 10:11:34 PM EST

From what i have observed for, well, years now, “transparency” from the boyos is “Trust me, you know me”.

No.  Don’t think so.

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1. NYCO - 17 July 2006

Well, Israel has invaded Lebanon. Just came over the wire at 7:27 EST.

It’s not gonna work I’m afraid. People in America are sick to death of war already after 3 years of a meat grinder that has produced no sausage, our military is in tatters, and while I don’t see anyone demonstrating in the streets against Israel, I don’t think it’s going to be as easy to rally the public behind any more adventures that have to do with the Middle East.

I don’t think the question is so much “are you pro or anti Israel?” as it is “do you still give a shit?”

2. pyrrho - 17 July 2006

the term “kossack”, telling, google didn’t help me find my original plea this not be the term for kos users, but it’s telling, as I claimed, that it is.

The history of the mountain people the kossacks… stayed independant of the tzar, no one could defeat them, known for beligerance and independence eventually were coopted as hired mercinaries for the tzar… that is, lost their independence willingly becoming a paid army. sigh.

On the real news… about war in Gaza and Israel… what can I say… what can any say? It’s pretty obvious that when you destroy the infrastructure you set up a situation where your enemy’s best opportunity in life is to die fighting you… sad. Anyone have a solution? I’d say build up infrastructure, build up opportunity.

3. Deepest Troat - 17 July 2006

I just heard 7:58 EST that the Israel just pulled out of Lebanon.

4. NYCO - 17 July 2006

Well, funny but the report about Israel invading Lebanon has been removed from the NYT site… it claimed an IDF spokesman said this was being done.

And there you have it… the fog of war.

5. NYCO - 17 July 2006

OK, I’m confused… were they ever IN Lebanon? If so, that’s got to be the shortest invasion on record.

6. marisacat - 17 July 2006

NYCO… I did not catch (yet, only an hour into it in the West) Washington Journal this morning – but for days now the push back against Israel is strong. And some of the pro Israel callers don’t mind appearing racist…

I think people are sick to death of the money tht goes to israel as much as anything. And war and dying.. and so on.

… and moving the Syrian army out last year did have a linchpin “feel” to it. As in, invasion was surely greatly eased.

— and here we are.

7. marisacat - 17 July 2006

well ABC news just reported it as I typed my last comment. I have on World News OVernight, and it was my local break=in the news, SF ABC affiliate that reported it.

8. Deepest Troat - 17 July 2006

CNN reported that yes Israel did enter, but the “story” is that they did to take care of a couple small Hezbollah groups. Which they just did and now went back home.

9. NYCO - 17 July 2006

Whoa! Aren’t you up a little early, Marisacat?

Here’s Bush on an open mike! Hee.

“What they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit and it’s over,” Bush says with his mouth full as he buttered a piece of bread…

He also seemed eager to leave: “Gotta go home. Got something to do tonight. How about you? Where are you going? Home?”

Bush also offered his thanks to Blair for what was probably a gift for the president’s 60th birthday.

“Thanks for the sweater, it was awfully thoughtful of you,” Bush said. Then he added mischievously, “I know you picked it out yourself.”

“Oh, absolutely,” Blair declared.

As if we needed any more proof that the world is being run by banal CEO’s.

10. marisacat - 17 July 2006

Pyrrho,

the whole Kossack thang was so like the Titanic – for that ship that rides at the bottom of the ocean. Not a good choice. But the very first of that (playing around with nicknames) was a light joke. That caught on.

Good luck and good fortune to them.

11. NYCO - 17 July 2006

CNN reported that yes Israel did enter, but the “story” is that they did to take care of a couple small Hezbollah groups. Which they just did and now went back home.

Well, at least they didn’t send in the clowns like they did at Sabra and Shatila.

Git’r'done…

12. marisacat - 17 July 2006

ooo thanks for taht NYCO… some news I had on alluded to it, but did not clarify.

13. NYCO - 17 July 2006

And some of the pro Israel callers don’t mind appearing racist…

Well, that can work both ways. From talking to my neighbor the other day about this (actually, I just let her rant) I think Americans see Jews and Israel as separate, and that of course is a view that is at odds with how many Jews see Israel. The concept of a people being tied to a piece of land is very non-American (indeed, we have trouble with it when it comes to considering the petitions of Native Americans), and I think ultimately THAT is going to produce a backlash against Israel, not anti-Semitism. What Israel represents in the eyes of many Jews, is not something that makes sense to Americans. And eventually many Americans will just get tired of trying to go along with that.

On the other hand, many Americans DO identify with helpless people being beat up on; but again, it’s hard for Americans to see Israel, the state, as being helpless. The same Americans who probably would have willingly risked their individual lives for individual Jews, had they lived in WW2 Europe, can have a different view of Israel the state.

And that’s a disconnect which I think it is highly unfair to call “anti-Semitic.” But, as I said, many pro-Israel people won’t see it that way, for the reasons I stated above.

14. marisacat - 17 July 2006

oh I know it works both ways. Not born last week.

HOWEVER usually the pro Israel callers don’t go as far as some of the calls I have heard. AS in
“every single black caller is a racist”.

My jaw did drop. And the three black callers that morning had issues of war, and level of foreign aid.

Oh yeah racism .. the multi track multi task highway.

15. marisacat - 17 July 2006

I think George can relax… Discovery is gonna make it. 30 sec to TD.

16. JJB - 17 July 2006

Just saw this in the main ME story on the BBC website.

Later, Israeli ground forces entered southern Lebanon. There are few details, but Israeli officials said this was not the start of an large-scale invasion.

They said that Israeli troops had crossed the Lebanese border back and forth in recent days.

Probing attack? Recon patrol? Anxious units jumping the gun? Who knows? At this point, they seem to have little or no idea of what they’re doing in any strategic sense, just striking blindly out in all directions. I suspect they still haven’t gotten over the shock of how far the Hizbollah missiles can reach, and are wondering if dozens of fatalities in Tel Aviv from missile strikes are something the Olmert government can allow to happen. As it is, more rockets hit Haifa today, the Israelis have closed the port, and now their Defense Minister is talking about creating and maintaining a buffer zone in south Lebanon. Hey, just because it failed two decades ago is no reason not to try it again! To me, it sounds like they really have no idea what they’re doing.

In the meantime, the main page news ticker at the BBC is reporting that a bus was hit by an Israeli missile, with ten civilians killed. Presumably that’s a missile fired by a jet fighter. They promise details soon. How difficult is it to figure that Hizzbollah fighters are at this point not likely to be traveling in what I assume is a tour bus?

17. Deepest Troat - 17 July 2006

From WaPo on Democracy Alliance

A year after its founding, Democracy Alliance has followed up on its pledge to become a major power in the liberal movement. It has lavished millions on groups that have been willing to submit to its extensive screening process and its demands for secrecy.

One year ago Kos introduced DA:

The alliance is the brainchild of longtime Democratic strategist Rob Stein, who spent years studying conservative groups — in particular their success in sustaining GOP politicians and achieving many of their policy goals. Simon Rosenberg, president of the New Democrat Network, is working with Stein and is a leading promoter of his effort.

18. NYCO - 17 July 2006

Woo hoo everybody! I just found out I have lost my TU status at Daily Kos. Not sure when it happened, but it must have been my troll-rating of Armando, or maybe this.

Now I have become a woman! (It was so tough watching it happen for all my friends, and wondering when the magic moment would come for me…)

19. marisacat - 17 July 2006

JJB…or like us, I assumed we had patrols over the Syrian border long ago… probably one reason that wedding party that was celebrating in the desert outside of Ramadi was hit in such ugly fashion (aerial bombing AND ground commandos) either in 2003 or 04 (Fog of War). SOme how connected to the land trails we were using. That family were traders and sheepherders and had both Iraqi and Syrian family tribal members.

And now we have small cadres over the Iranian border, operation without air support.

Terrible times. Thaks for the expanded info on that.

ABC reported that the hill they were transmitting from in Beirut was nearly hit by a rocket from israel. There was a mobile communications truck from the Hizbollah channel. They thought that was the target… but there were quite a few reporters on the hill.

Tough times.

20. marisacat - 17 July 2006

NYCO CONGRATULATIONS!

Rite of passage…

if they get more heavy handed Alan Smithee has a wide selection of “Banned by The Daily Kos” side column bumper stickers…

I picked “too independent”.

LOL as we used to say at LSF, they take the license numbers of people who post here.

Courage! Aux batiments!

21. marisacat - 17 July 2006

Deepest Troat..

thanks for that… ;) will pop it up to the post.

22. D. Throat - 17 July 2006

Here is how they plan on shutting out liberal voices:

A New Alliance Of Democrats Spreads Funding

An alliance of nearly a hundred of the nation’s wealthiest donors is roiling Democratic political circles, directing more than $50 million in the past nine months to liberal think tanks and advocacy groups in what organizers say is the first installment of a long-term campaign to compete more aggressively against conservatives.

A year after its founding, Democracy Alliance has followed up on its pledge to become a major power in the liberal movement. It has lavished millions on groups that have been willing to submit to its extensive screening process and its demands for secrecy.

But the large checks and demanding style wielded by Democracy Alliance organizers in recent months have caused unease among Washington’s community of Democratic-linked organizations. The alliance has required organizations that receive its endorsement to sign agreements shielding the identity of donors. Public interest groups said the alliance represents a large source of undisclosed and unaccountable political influence.

Now Rosenberg can accept monies from right wing fanatics without any disclosure…

“Everything we invest in should have not just short-term impact but long-term impact and sustainability,” she said. The group requires nondisclosure agreements because many donors prefer anonymity, Wade added. Some donors expressed concern about being attacked on the Web or elsewhere for their political stance; others did not want to be targeted by fundraisers.

“Like a lot of elite groups, we fly beneath the radar,” said Guy Saperstein, an Oakland lawyer and alliance donor. But “we are not so stupid though,” he said, to think “we can deny our existence.”

To become a “partner,” as the members are referred to internally, requires a $25,000 entry fee and annual dues of $30,000 to cover alliance operations as well as some of its contributions to start-up liberal groups. Beyond this, partners also agree to spend at least $200,000 annually on organizations that have been endorsed by the alliance. Essentially, the alliance serves as an accreditation agency for political advocacy groups.

This accreditation process is the root of Democracy Alliance’s influence. If a group does not receive the alliance’s blessing, dozens of the nation’s wealthiest political contributors as a practical matter become off-limits for fundraising purposes.

Fucking Rosenberg up to his old NDN tricks… this is the same “screening process” he did to weed out liberal candidates…

Simon Rosenberg, the former field director for the DLC who directs the New Democrat Network, a spin-off political action committee, says, “We’re trying to raise money to help them lessen their reliance on traditional interest groups in the Democratic Party. In that way,” he adds, “they are ideologically freed, frankly, from taking positions that make it difficult for Democrats to win.”

Privately funded and operating as an extraparty organization without official Democratic sanction, and calling themselves “New Democrats,” the DLC sought nothing less than the miraculous: the transubstantiation of America’s oldest political party. Though

the DLC painted itself using the palette of the liberal left–as “an effort to revive the Democratic Party’s progressive tradition,”

with New Democrats being the “trustees of the real tradition of the Democratic Party”–its mission was far more confrontational. With few resources, and taking heavy flak from the big guns of the Democratic left, the DLC proclaimed its intention, Mighty Mouse–style, to rescue the Democratic Party from the influence of 1960s-era activists and the AFL-CIO, to ease its identification with hot-button social issues, and, perhaps most centrally, to reinvent the party as one pledged to fiscal restraint, less government, and a probusiness, pro–free market outlook.

It’s hard to argue that they haven’t succeeded.

That was then…

To ensure that liberals don’t slip through the cracks, NDN requires each politician who seeks entree to its largesse and contacts to fill out a questionnaire that asks his or her views on trade, economics, education, welfare reform, and other issues. The questions are detailed, forcing candidates to state clearly whether or not they support views associated with the New Democrat Coalition, and it concludes by asking, “Will you join the NDC when you come to Congress?” Next, Rosenberg interviews each candidate, and then NDN determines which candidacies are viable before providing financial support.

This is now…

Democracy Alliance works essentially as a cooperative for donors, allowing them to coordinate their giving so that it has more influence.

To become a “partner,” as the members are referred to internally, requires a $25,000 entry fee and annual dues of $30,000 to cover alliance operations as well as some of its contributions to start-up liberal groups. Beyond this, partners also agree to spend at least $200,000 annually on organizations that have been endorsed by the alliance. Essentially, the alliance serves as an accreditation agency for political advocacy groups.

This accreditation process is the root of Democracy Alliance’s influence. If a group does not receive the alliance’s blessing, dozens of the nation’s wealthiest political contributors as a practical matter become off-limits for fundraising purposes.

Many of these contributors give away far more than the $200,000 requirement. Soros, Gill and insurance magnate Peter Lewis are among the biggest contributors, but 45 percent of the 95 partners gave $300,000 or better in the initial round of grants last October, according to a source familiar with the organization.

Democracy Alliance organizers say they are trying to bring principles of accountability and capital investment that are common in business to the world of political advocacy, where they believe such principles have often been missing.

Wade declined to discuss the donors or the groups they fund.
But, in an interview, she described how the groups were chosen. Alliance officials initially reviewed about 600 liberal and Democratic-leaning organizations. Then, about 40 of those groups were invited to apply for an endorsement — with a requirement that they submit detailed business plans and internal financial information. Those groups were then screened by a panel of alliance staff members, donors and outside experts, including some with expertise in philanthropy rather than politics. So far, according to people familiar with the alliance, 25 groups have received its blessing.

The goal was to invest in groups that could be influential in building what activists call “political infrastructure” — institutions that can support Democratic causes not simply in the next election but for years to come.

But some consider Democracy Alliance’s hidden influence troubling, regardless of its ideological orientation. Unlike election campaigns, which must detail contributions and spending, most of the think tanks and not-for-profit groups funded by the alliance are exempt from public disclosure laws.

“It is a huge problem,” said Sheila Krumholz, the acting executive director of the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. She noted that for decades “all kinds of Democrats and liberals were complaining that corporations and individuals were carrying on these stealth campaigns to fund right-wing think tanks and advocacy groups. Just as it was then, it is a problem today.”

The exclusive donor club includes millionaires such as Susie Tompkins Buell and her husband, Mark Buell, major backers of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), and Chris Gabrieli, an investment banker running for the Democratic gubernatorial nomination in Massachusetts this September. Mark Buell estimated that about 70 percent of alliance partners built their own wealth, while 30 percent became wealthy through inheritances.

Fuck em…and fuck the Democratic Party…

See how this plays out in orange I swear they count on people not clicking thru and reading the original article for themselves. Geez… they didn’t give money to the DLC… that because nutbrain… they ARE THE DLC just shedding it’s old skin.

23. JJB - 17 July 2006

NYCO:

I believe they’ve change thing substantially over there wrt TU status. There were some extraordinary flame wars, with people targeting each other with troll ratings, really funny stuff, a lot like a parody of West Side Story, with rival gangs of Koskateers rumbling in the comment threads. As a result, they changed the algorithm drastically, on the theory that too many people would post a few comments in Cs&Js, get TU status, then go on troll ratings binges. Ratings decay a lot faster now apparently, and as a result you lose TU status much more quickly if you don’t actively participate and get high ratings. Or so I seem to remember from the FP post they did mentioning all this a few months ago. I also see people complaining about no longer being TUs and having it explained to them.

As long as you can still rate and post comments, I’d assume what happened to you is just the effects of ordinary ratings decay.

24. Deepest Troat - 17 July 2006

Now that the jig is up for DA, do ya think they will say who they donated too? Oh wait, what was I thinken’?

Silly me, how could I forget that we are in a “digital political warscape” and TRANSPARENCY is for wimps.

I feel like playing a little game, I like to call “TRUTH & TELL.” But first – humor me on this one – can somebody tell me the meaning of “netroots.”

25. D. Throat - 17 July 2006

I think my comment got lost in moderation… but to add an historical perspective… this is the same shit Rosenberg has been doing with the NDN… basically screening out the liberals and pumping up GOPers in Dem clothing with corporate monies… Now it seems that they have surpassed the original NDN business plan and have taken the whole rotten mess deep into the gutters… this is why Kos is NOT writting about Isreal but whinning his guts out about NARAL and Planned Parenthood… he is fucking bought… lock, stock and barrel.

Pac-men

In 1996 Lieberman, Breaux, and Simon Rosenberg founded the New Democrat Network political action committee. “Our role is to add political muscle,” says Rosenberg. In the 1997–1998 reporting period, its first full cycle, NDN raised $1.4 million directly, and another $1.2 million in so-called “bundled” contributions, gathered at fundraisers for individual candidates and funneled through NDN. In the 1999–2000 period, NDN more than doubled its take, raising $4 million directly and bundling $1.45 million more, plus $450,000 for GoreLieberman. Nearly $2 million of NDN’s take in the last cycle came in large, unregulated soft-money chunks from companies such as Aetna, AT&T, and Microsoft and from trade groups such as the Securities Industry Association, who helped sponsor a $1.2-million fundraiser honoring Lieberman on February 13.

NDN’s brochures sound like investment prospectuses. “NDN acts as a political venture capital fund to create a new generation of elected officials,” says the PAC. “NDN provides the political intelligence you need to make well-informed decisions on how to spend your political capital. Just like an investment advisor, NDN exhaustively vets candidates and endorses only those who meet our narrowly defined criteria.”

To ensure that liberals don’t slip through the cracks, NDN requires each politician who seeks entree to its largesse and contacts to fill out a questionnaire that asks his or her views on trade, economics, education, welfare reform, and other issues. The questions are detailed, forcing candidates to state clearly whether or not they support views associated with the New Democrat Coalition, and it concludes by asking, “Will you join the NDC when you come to Congress?” Next, Rosenberg interviews each candidate, and then NDN determines which candidacies are viable before providing financial support.

It is the same shit… the only difference was then you could see from the FEC reports that Rosenberg was being funded by right wing ideologues… now you can’t.

Creeps … every last one of them all these shits are bought off Kos, Jerome, Booman, MSOC, Atrios, Stoller, Bowers, FDL, etc..etc…etc… anyone who is flying the “Advertise Liberally” banner is rolling in this muck.

this whole bruhaha about Lieberman has nothing at all to do with his issues or his values… it is nothing but Billiary ..crashing the gates in a hostile takeover of the DLC

…. nothing more nothing less… Billiary have outflanked Lieberman from inside the DLC and outside with the NDN and their rabid lamb army.

Rahm is just making a distraction with Dean… to keep people’s focus away from Hill and Bill’s undrhanded dealings.

26. D. Throat - 17 July 2006

Midday open thread
by kos
Mon Jul 17, 2006 at 10:42:24 AM PDT

Megachurches are the GOP’s new and growing base. Next year, I will be working offline to start building the progressive alternative to the megachurches. It may be a decades-long project, but it has to start sometime.

Looks like somone got their business plan approved by DA… I guess that is why his offshoot got an evangelical interview with Hilliary’s papdog Obama

27. cactus ed - 17 July 2006

Well, how about an SAT analogy?

netroots : grassroots :: “Grand Theft Auto” : real life

28. marisacat - 17 July 2006

Looks like somone got their business plan approved by DA… I guess that is why his offshoot got an evangelical interview with Hilliary’s papdog Obama

Kos and Street Prophets. I am tellin ya… ’06 will be blow out and ’08 is a piece of cake.

These “Dems” never do plan on winning. Maybe the odd graft on… much crowing and yelling… but the plan is not to win.

Been clear for years.

29. NYCO - 17 July 2006

Megachurches are the GOP’s new and growing base. Next year, I will be working offline to start building the progressive alternative to the megachurches. It may be a decades-long project, but it has to start sometime.

But no, Kos is not a cult…

If anyone wants some fun, try mixing this and this
with this.

Good times.

30. marisacat - 17 July 2006

Now Rosenberg can accept monies from right wing fanatics without any disclosure…

A very big bingo on that. I am sure he has been raking it in for a year now. And shuffling it downward in dribbles. But to his buds.

LOL I am guessing YouTube might be a recipient. Trippi pushed it in Ca with Westly and now Lamont uses it. When I was googling it was getting PR from a lot of likely suspects.

Sure to win!

Winning is around the corner!!

Oh PS, I doubt she had any, er, choice…. but MSNBC reported Hilllary at NY pro Israel rally.

31. D. Throat - 17 July 2006

Looks like somone got their business plan approved by DA… I guess that is why his offshoot got an evangelical interview with Hilliary’s papdog Obama

Midday open thread
by kos
Mon Jul 17, 2006 at 10:42:24 AM PDT

Megachurches are the GOP’s new and growing base. Next year, I will be working offline to start building the progressive alternative to the megachurches. It may be a decades-long project, but it has to start sometime.

32. Deepest Troat - 17 July 2006

I only ask because I wonder if anybody ever looked into Ubercomandante Kos’ other business, ya know, the sports one, SportsBlogs Nation. Check out the About Us.

SportsBlogs, Inc. brings together some of the netroots top pioneers in order to build the most interactive, fan-friendly sports sites on the web.

But here is another thing, in Hispanic Magazine, Kos tells Hispanic

Since 2004, Moulitsas has lived off the ad revenues generated from his site [Daily Kos].

Nothing is mentioned about SportsBlog

On dKos bio page when he was addressing his source of income he states:

My only sources of revenue are this site (advertising and subscriptions), some freelance writings in places like the American Prospect, and CTG (eventually. It takes publishers ages to send out royalty checks). At some point in the future, SportsBlogs will be a source of revenue, but it’s nowhere near that point yet.

Why am I making a big deal, ZDNet: Blog empire mixes sports, politics

SportsBlogs is surviving largely on the revenues from DailyKos. It’s expanded rapidly, and Moulitsas and business partner Tyler Bleszinski–who’s the main blogger on AthleticsNation–hope the network will blossom to include about 100 blogs by year’s end.

For now, Moulitsas said, SportsBlogs is somewhat of an experiment. Eventually he hopes to attract advertisers and make the blogs stand on their own, but for now he’s hoping the network will grow by itself.

Bleszinski disagreed. He thinks the Pepsis of the world will eventually flock to SportsBlogs as they see the potential for reaching a large, mostly young male audience.

From a 2005 Wired News article:

And there’s Jason Calacanis, whose company, Weblogs, runs 75 sites mostly dedicated to technology and business. Calacanis thinks SportsBlogs will have a tough time landing the kind of advertising necessary to pay writers enough to have them quit their day jobs.

Calacanis has stayed away from launching any sports blogs out of his conviction that general advertisers, such as cola companies, won’t spend advertising dollars on blogs without millions of visitors, but companies with a niche audience will advertise on a niche blog.

Moulitsas disagrees, noting that sports fans willingly shell out more than $100 for a team jersey and pointing to a guerrilla ad campaign from Audi already running on Athletics Nation.

Despite his concerns, Calacanis is optimistic that Moulitsas can become a mogul like him.

Now how much did it take to start up SportsBlog, anybody want to guess? Last year’s NY Times:

Getting SportsBlogs started took an investment of about $20,000, most of which came from Daily Kos profits. And because each new site has low set-up costs, pressure on the writers to reach specific traffic or revenue milestones is minimal.

$20,000 is a lot of mullah. It is obvious Kos is mixing both pots.

So back to the game of “TRUTH & TELL”
Question: Is SportsNation part of the Kos business – Kos Media, LLC and if so … say if the Pepsi’s of the world started advertising, wouldn’t that make Kos Media corporate sponsored, just like the NY Times, the sort of corporate media Kos loathes?

33. marisacat - 17 July 2006

LOL.. I think he considers Dkos a Political Sports Blog. Veyr much like the cables have sold the old D v R games as daytime soap alternatives.

But just a guess…

People knowledgeable about adverts, and ad revenue would know more.

Apparently there is foundation, DA or other, funding coming thru for some religious / political exploration, mimicing the Mega churches.

Oh good luck.

34. NYCO - 17 July 2006

Well, I noticed Kos’ plans to build a progressive megachurch has met with underwhelming applause. :-)

35. Deepest Troat - 17 July 2006

I wonder what Kos’ wife, Elisa Batista, thought about the whole Pie Wars considering she was the one who hosted the Feminism Roundtable at Yearly Kos.

36. pyrrho - 17 July 2006

I didn’t attend that, but my travel mate did and said Elisa was asked if she minded that kos introduced her as his “beautiful wife”, and she explained she was flattered.

my travel mate believed she did not get the context in which the question was asked, and that it was asked several times in different ways.

I was at the abortion round table which she also attended, but she left early, not that I know why.

I was surprised she hosted the feminism roundtable, to say the least. Frankly, treatment of women’s issues at yearlykos was just as the participants here would likely suspect, minimal and sad.

37. marisacat - 17 July 2006

I would imagine she was there to promote, or so that it was promoted, ”Mother Talks” or… a similar site that is an offshoot.


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