Sigh. It’s just unimaginable, some of the things that have been done with full knowledge and approval of our government. And increasingly, as the stuff becomes known, with full approval of much of the US populace, as long as there is some benefit in it and it serves “US interests”.

Many more chickens are on their way home to roost, I’m thinking.

Let’s be specific. Guatemala under Efraín Ríos Montt (personal friend of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson) and evangelical minister. Montt is a killer.

but they refused to go with the police. Replace african-american by indigenous. La misma vaina.

Its what beaks up families, its what keeps people poor.”

This reminded me of a news report in the aftermath of Katrina of NO police, and I think possibly sheriffs as well, finally going out in boats to pick people up… maybe not in the 9th ward, but in some primarly Black area. Anyway, in the report I saw, some people just absolutely refused to get in the boats. They’d go with firefighters or national guard or others who were doing pickups, but they refused to go with the police.

I know many people who don’t trust police forces in general, and certainly some cops in particular, but can you imagine being so afraid and distrustful of your city police force that you would rather stay in what is a very dangerous situation and hope someone else comes along, rather than get into a boat with the cops?

Sounds more like some sort of Central American dictatorship country.

Also, that’s not the first time someone has been killed for throwing stones over the border. Not many months ago, an 18 year old was shot as well, on the Mexico side of the fence. He made it almost back to his parents house, from what I remember, before he died. The border patrol officer said that the stone throwing caused him to “fear for his life”.

IDF trained, no doubt.

He and others are part of a historic shift to Hispanic from white construction workers that has brought prosperity to some immigrants and helped support the region’s building boom.

His immigrant dream is not to have a big house in the American suburbs, but to earn enough money to return to Guatemala and start a business with his brother. That’s partly because he misses Guatemala and partly because the U.S. crackdown on illegal immigrants makes him angry.

SOme one year dead line.

And the tenuousness of peoples’ lives for extended periods of time is just too debilitating. IMO.

Suicide rate is up 300 % in NO… has to be the same, or close, thru the Gulf Coast.

We are rapidly sinking to the level the USSR reached in its final decade. What’s really depressing is how little outrage there is over this. You’d think there would be mobs of people, not just in New Orleans, but in Mississippi and Florida, screaming at Bush to get things fixed. Instead, there’s just a fatalistic shrugging of shoulders. It’s as if our society is giving up the will to live.

LOL. After 9/11 it came out that some smallish EU country, god Belgium I think (tho Brussels would be angry to be diminished) has 400 percent less turn over of their airport security gate personnel. And they pay them something like twice or three times what we do. Better benefits… hmm might even be a form of Civil Service job… certainly is not randomly privatised… outsourced. Mismanaged. And whatever else..

BUT! Not for us.

Popups, turnovers and whatever else is half baked. Pop tarts. I knew there was a third “thing”…

We just are not a serious adult people. Not at all.

When you consider that civilian police forces are required to undergo extensive training to be eligible to operate assault rifles and the BP hands out .50 caliber Machine Gunz to guys who can’t get on a regular police force let alone a SWATteam…FYI many of the BP agents use the BP as a springboard to gain entry to civilian police forces they couldn’t get hired on before joining up; the BP has a huge turnover rate…