Skewering the Sewers… 13 February 2007
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From IOZ - he throws in a classic period shot of Nuremberg as well…
So he wants “the people,” whatever on earth those are, to throw off their shackles–”shoplifters of the world, unite and take over,” such as it is–and cast off the elite and the status quo, but he hopes “to be an active member of the small clique, coterie or circle that identified the possibility for massive change and precipitated its manifestation.” At first it smelled like contradiction, but the more I read it, the more it smells like something that exits through an orifice further south. An inner circle is an inner circle is an inner circle. The dork wants power, and he wants to ride a wave of popular whoop-dee-doo into a office with a view, a satellite feed, and two secretaries. Fuck the revolution, kiddo; work on your resume.
Now I don’t know what sort of revolutionary lines up Benjamin Franklin and Tristan Tzara and says, “Oh yeah, I like the looks of that,” but it’s not a revolutionary to be taken seriously–or trusted.[...]
Electoral politics as practiced by the Netroots, lawd god, is not a revolution. It’s not even like a revolution. There is no category of metaphor, no figurative instrument of language elastic enough to encompass such a comparison.
Public Service Announcement: warning, the original post at IOZ has a long passage of Bowers’ original writing. Hip waders advised… :) I am immunized.. I do believe my reading the slobberific fictions around Day Trippers Go To Harlem Wearing Whiteface… did it. Better immunization than Ari Fleischer!!
If you need a quick one shot hit of the two years rolling out ahead of us… do drop in on this diary at Dkos on The Second Blogger Resigns… catch ”Dr Frank Lives” (among others). sigh. Back again. Not a boon to the Edwards camp either… In 2003 it turned out he ws a volunteer, an acquaintance of Edwards (also a trial atty I do recall - they often have an additional degree such as “Dr”…), who built the primary season website for Edwards. And a total shit on line. He has been abusive for weeks at MyDD… another viral spammer…
I say Good Luck to the campaigns. None of them seem Ready for Prime Tme… much less the messy job of Saving the Nation… or seeking to raise Big Buckaroos Online. I know which one comes first…
[thanks to ms_xeno for the IOZ link]
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Miss Devore accepted the challenge to craft, with art, a fight song… It had to hve cunt, bitch, whore and harpie in it… 
“This evening, the tear is in my eye.”
{conductor raises wand}
There’s a jeer in a post
that’s offending the host
And that’s where more troll-rates will apply
With the power of your site
Sure some bitch you can smite
Be it banning or trimming blogroll
All the soft porno banter
And the 4’s to the ranters
While your lies fail transparency
You can launch other sites
While the runt huahua bites
Your ankles of hypocrisy
Ovarians have called you
On your clear misogyny
To the hilt of “cunt”embracers
You can hear the harpies pling.
When dying sites get crappy
From the whores within your pay
Your ad bucks will be declining
While the bitches still have their say.
MIss Devore emailed earlier she thought she’d get chihuahuas in there as well and she did… apparently some “Livid Vitriol” persona spurred the enterprise…
more to come..
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UPDATE, 8:35 pm
Ah…. love it when a picture starts to develop…
From Democrats for Life as their 95/10 prescription for impeding womens’ lives, their autonomy, their right to self determination, their right to privacy, to not being misled… begins to work its way thru…
Pregnant Women Support Act Advances
The Federal Pregnant Women Support Act will be reintroduced in the House by Congressman Lincoln Davis (D-TN) and also introduced in the Senate this year. Several states have or will introduce similar bills.The Commonwealth of Virginia will be the first state to approve the pregnant Women Support Act. The State legislation creates a Pregnant Women Support fund to assist women who wish to carry their children to term. Introduced by Senator Phil Puckett (D) and Delegate Ward Armstrong (D), the legislation (S 1088 and HB 3183) passed unanimously in the Senate and by a vote of 94 to 2 in the House.
Democratic Governor Tim Kaine is expected to sign the measure into law.
Last Updated ( Tuesday, 13 February 2007 )
And please refer back to the previous post… oddly Amanda Marcotte was pushing 95/10 last October… Does she or does she not like Catholics? As I said, DFLA is riddled iwth Catholics… Couldn’t Donohue cut her some slack (sorry! the Right fights hard, give up that silly thought!)…
Here is moiv writing on 95/10 (one of several articles over many months) and Democrats For Life America last September.
And while I am at DFLA.. such a thrilling site! I spy this update right underneath the Kaine news…
The House once again passed a bill to expand research on human embryos. While DFLA opposed the measure and the President has vowed to veto the bill, we truly appreciate and recognize the courage of the 16 Democratic Representatives who opposed this measure.
We would particularly like to recognize Congressman Bart Stupak, who has been a leading voice in support of ethical stem cell research that does not involve the destruction of human embryos, and new Congressmen Joe Donnelly, Heath Shuler, Brad Ellsworth and Charlie Wilson. For a full list of the Democrats who opposed the measure please click here.
We urge you to contact the Members to thank them for their vote and their strong committment to life issues.
Not bloody likely!
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UPDATE, 5:52 am
Really. I should resist. But no… the proverbial car wreck:
Sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp.
Let me make this brief… One reason for mega meta smegma smack arounds all over the place (sorry, I am hors de classe - and the Blahg boyz can pronounce that any way they wish) is money. Over the years, Kos and his related, afllilated sites, baby Agony Aunt sites (they know shit about politics but they do skin rip in public, regularly), the tied together box car sites, etc., have proven - in the finance area - to be small, smaller, ever smaller, downright tiny (but shrieking!) potatoes.
They have not raised the bucks. Not really. (MoveOn raised over 240 million in the ‘06 cycle, ran national ads.)
And now Kos, and his online relatives, is a potatoe casserole, dropped on the floor in a public transit area.
About it.
ADDENDUM…
Not quite it. As usual, he seems unaware of reality. Ban hundreds of people if not a couple thousand (who knows) but keep Armando, DhinMI etc…
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Love it.
The weird thing is that ever since I picked up The The’s “Hanky Panky” I hear Matt Johnson’s voice when I think of the tune for “There’s a Tear in My Beer”, so imagine if you can that as I was reading Ms. Devore’s creation above it was HIS voice I was hearing in my mind’s ear singing those lyrics.
I swiped the link from UFO…
Ack. the damnable site is down for blogmaideness, and I have to wait for what Losing Venter inspired me with all the roman references.
such are the problems of the Etruscan she-wolf.
LOL
awww…..times for a sports diary:
“I needed something (1+ / 0-)
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that made me feel better. Please indulge me.
More at TalkLeft
by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Feb 13, 2007 at 08:46:55 PM PST”
oh don’t worry. indulgences are on the way. Not in the way of 1k comments, I’m afraid. But there will be slurrppsss.
ah the Roman thang.
you know the old saying “when in Rome..”
reflexively I always think:
When in Crete, do as the cretins….
OMMMMMMMMMMMM
MOOOOOOOOOOOO
… do as the cretins….
Oh I laughed out loud…
wow, Garance just realized that they are ALL war-mongerers:
Mitm, re your post in the last thread. Just wanted to say, don’t know about you being the ‘golden calf’ but your words are golden. I’ve been reading them. What a loss to DK but no loss to you, obviously.
What nonsense from Bowers - they really should not type until they get control of their emotions.
I just read that diary, Mcat - it’s going to be a rough two years. There may be no one left standing at DK by the end of it. Considering the attempts to silence anyone criticizing Edwards’ handling of it in the thread, I thought this first comment to be extremely ironic:
Its a shame… (2+ / 0-)
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Why can’t people just speak their minds without having to worry about ticking someone off?
by floridadude on Tue Feb 13, 2007 at 03:34:47 PM PST
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Good question. Ask Kos and his thread thugs, ‘dude.
hmmm. Well I will go read the whole.. I wonder if there is a convoluted purpose. She has turned into nearly a Hillary defender. When I was reading her entries on the (very veyr messy fucked up) Edwards Blogger Biz… I kept wondering, what if it was Hillary.
LOL Need I add that (turgid defense of HillPAC) will not be happening here.
I’m glad the sports diary dodge reminded me of this friend of mine that I recently spoke to and suggested she contribute to sports stuff on my blog. Way back when, while working together, I’d listen to her talk on sports, and I kept telling her—you could kick Vince Cellini’s ass! (at that time he was the big guy on CNN’s Sports Tonight.) She knows all the “guy” sports, she played college basketball with current WNBA folks, she’s a diver, a pharmacist, a cultivator of rare dahlias, and she taught me bocce, too.
Is there a better resume than that?
thanks Sabrina.
Yarrgh.
The “sanctions” sanctity bit gets on my nerves. It’s one of the major tools in the ongoing “of course Gore would have been better than Bush” mantra. It’s supposed to shut down dialogue about reform and a break of the duopoly because a candidate is under no obligation to behave like he or she has any respect for human lives or the sovreignty of other nations! It sure would be nice if these people would acknowledge that the sanctions killed Iraqis and that Clinton/Gore dropped bombs. [slaps forehead] It would be nice if, just once, it occurred to them that when they parse out this idea of Democrats being BETTER what they really mean is, “Well, Americans didn’t die, just those damn foreigners and that’s why Democrats are the answer.”
Sorry, but I’m past the idea that we can be responsible world citizens by bullying people who can’t fight back. I’m sick of kinder, gentler World Police ideals being sold as the answer. >:
I went and read GFR at Tapped. Well the Dems have been bellicose on Iran all along. ugh. NOthing new.
Well Gore would have read the August 6 NIE. Other than that I don’t make guarantees.
But Renata Adler has a scenario of how the R woulda impeached his ass if 9.11 had happened on his watch.
Makes perfect sense.
The Dems should just give blood at the Red Cross and be done with it. Then again, it occurred ot me, they’d be rejected for donation: TOO FUCKING ANEMIC.
You mean the 8/6/01 PDB?
with the “historicial” info?
what is so pathetic about these episodes, is that I’ll bet a child could have seen thru the Iraq war build-up lies, and now we have Democrats who, despite avowed regrets about their initial pro-war votes, are nervous about not being perceived as tough enough on Iran?
It’s tough being too stupid to see Armegedon looming because of your anxieties about your penis size. >:
Well, Gore would have been a “minority” winner, just like Bill. The GOP could have tied his wrists together with cooked pasta.
(And it would have been Nader’s fault for dropping out of the race and confusing the electorate in the process. :p )
well Bill really just caved after 94. And the first two years were mess enough. Talk about a whumping… 54 seats down the tubes. …
2008 could be a hideous mess in several directions at once.
Maybe we can get the UN to come in and monitor.
LOL… just as we needed vote monitors in 04 ,,, iirc Castro offered to send some. OH I had a good laugh over that one.
JJB,
From the previous thread and your comment about the Korean deal.
Is it an administration lurching back and forth, a victory for the realists as Jim Lobe seems to think, or making peace on one front while getting ready to attack on another?
It sure makes it easier to move that third carrier group on over to the Gulf.
I am with the making peace on the one side of the globe, as you send the third carrier group to the Gulf…
I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue…
Perhaps that is a victory for “realists” in a way. Someone finally figured that four wars at once is too many.
BTW Marisa,
I start my morning with your blog not just to hear about the latest bufoonery on the blogs but because your readers and you read widely and bring lots of interesting things to our attention.
Things have exploded around here lately, huh?
What I like about this blog is that it is organic not sterile.
There is no separation between the political blogs and what they write about. As we just witnessed in the devolution of Amanda, she played the gamed and got into bed with the Christofundies … and they burned her. Amanda didn’t lose a few days ago she lost last October… when she told the funies that she was able to be plied away from her true beliefs for a few pesos and a place in the sun. That was the beginning of the end…
If I were really supersitous… I would look around to see who ultimately benefits from this… yes the fundies… but also Hilliary, as she was never going to warm the cockles of Blaghtopia… getting rid of the White Boyz early on with no blood in her house is the biggest coup for her so far. Taking away their cudgel and credibility was like taking candy away from a baby.
We already know that the Clintons even MacAuliffe had no problems feedin the right info to attack Dean. I also remember Gephart threatening the unions in Mo that he would get the Dems in state to sign a letter authorizing the GOP to take away their collective bargaining rights… so let’s say I wouldn’t put it past the Little Lady to cripple blogosphere… and they were so easy to topple because they are so greedy.
If you lay with dogs.. you wake up with fleas.
Notice no more FPs on DKos … they all are abandoning the girls… Pastor Dan of the cuntbitchwhoreharpie appeaser made it very clear…
In other words: Chicas you are on your own… when push comes to shove I’m on the side of the cuntbitchwhoreharpie supporters.
I think it is finally sinking in that Kos and his crew are liars… we must be thankful to Deleware Dem for that… his last dramarama clearly spelled out how delusional and fanatical that site has gotten. Tens of thousands of people saw that DDs “outing” was all a lie and that Kos and his thugs were egging him on… including the venerable Pastor Dan who spewed VooDoo curses and encantations summoning his dark forces… frankly all it wide was to wake people up to the reality of the “Reality based commune”
Sucking up and kissing Kos’s ass has it’s priveldges…
I actually really like what Dodd is trying to do. I think so far he has Menendez, Leahy & Feingold on as cosponsers.
I said nothing against Dodd…
It is just obvious that Booman’s kissing ass during the derolling blogrolls… has been rewarded. Why else would Dodd out of the blue come to a two bit uninteresting site like Booman’s unless he was not “directed” there by Kos.
Ezekial,
Unfortunately, I think it’s a case of pouring oil on trouble Korean Strait waters while preparing to set the Persian Gulf on fire. And I hope I’m wrong about that.
D. Throat,
BooMan is a tool. I think his behavior through all this is typical. I don’t think his blog is an independent entity, he’s more like the manager of a subidiary branch, and the delinking was both a demotion and a warning that the store might get closed if he doesn’t clamp down over at Froggy’s Bottoms.
Exactly, and this is the difference. I honestly believe that Amanda is adamently pro-choice but took the opportunity to make a few bucks. Booman is a liar, he mouths all the PC rhetoric but his actions speak louder… there was not a more pro Casey supporter in the entire blogosphere than Booman. There was not a more pro “let the states decide” on abortion (a.k.a. repeal Roe) than Booman. There was not a more pro Democrats for Life supporter than Booman (look up the “Abortion is Immoral” diaries). Booman and his brother (who writes DLC articles on how “librul women” are dying out because they have abortions)… are well versed and highly skilled in turning right wing rhetoric into progressive speak.
I wish that Booman’s interview with Dodd goes well and I hope that he finds this a better means of getting “hits” than writting flaming FP lies against the cuntbitchwhoreharpie du jour.
And you are right I have heard that Booman has not been upfront about the “founding” of his site.
Harkin wants to run also… Is it up to 20 yet? I m so looking forward to more crowded debates than 2003
Ezekiel, Hello! Thanks for the kind words… How are things in your hemisphere?
MitM agree, what Leahy, Dodd, Menendez and whoever else are doing on Habeas Corpus, etc., is good.
Poor Martin… in o ne post he barely knows anyone, then when dropped from the blogroll and wanting to suck up, he says how wonderful kos was to help him set up his scoop site. It’d be funny if it was other than predictable.
I think Kos’s problem (and one reason for retoolig his blogroll) is that he and his nook of the political game has not realised its need to prove fundraising ability. I mean, MoveOn has raised hundreds of millions over the two cycles, 04/06. Even poor old Emily’s List, which will push some cash your way if you can just spell abortion and are a woman (Boyda is a mess and they help fund her) raised 47 million in 06… I mean Kos is looking pretty anemic.
So he retooled his blogroll and has said to whoever matters (he said the new focus is elections w/r/t the blogroll), I will prove I can raise big cash on the nets. Remmeber, they pushed Lamont for MONTHS, across several sites.. and really the $$ raised was pretty anemic. Their big play.
I think there is a lot of panic in Blogdom…I know during Pie, a big concern was “are people delinking?”
And NOW people really are. Lots of small blogs, figure, fuck him.
And since he has long said that… LOL… only fair.
So he divested the Agony Aunts (that would be WIngless and BMT) and serious sites like Orsinus/David Niewert (wonderful amazing site) who do not engage in the elections games other than to be nominally Democratically inclined.
DT, what a mess The BLoggers has become. She has Daou, who would know the ins and outs of the various bloggers, cliques, vulnerabilities, etc. His second GE as blogger boy to a Big Candidate… I do know that Jerry Brown is STILL mad over the dirty plays Clinton ran against him.
Things are warm here. No winter at all this year. My one look at snow was a day trip up to the village of Motovun, and that was only a light dusting that soon melted on the sunny day that followed.
Nuf said:
Re your last update:
How he can lie so blantantly is beyond the pale…
D. Throat,
Nothing surprising there, anyone who could plagiarize user comments and diary entries as blatantly and shamelessly as he has over the years is also capable of lying even more egregiously than he does in that comment. Speaking of blatant, that’s a very clear threat to both Emsock and BooHooMan. I would imagine it’s coupled with fast and furious email hostility behind the scenes. He can no doubt pull the plug on Froggy’s Bottoms, and maybe even My Left Whine. I think he’s shocked and threatened by the scope of the negative reaction to his various purges, and like all petty tyrants who feel a sudden sense of vulnerability, he’s lashing out even more strongly, threatening even more purges if the people who’ve angered him don’t knuckle under.
MCAT - This may be a triple post, feel free to delete two of them, it didn’t go the first two times for some reason
Ezekial,
Here’s an interesting bit of analysis that I found a link to under the Reuters heading:
So, for the time being, North Korea gets to keep the nukes it has built. If it does eventually give up its nukes, it will be (I believe) the first nation to do so (it seems to me South Africa might have surrendered its clandestine arsenal, but I can’t remember offhand). BTW, I was amused to see this passage in that article:
And why did BushCo. suddenly agree to make the concessions necessary to make a deal with this particular spoke of the Axis Of Evil? Well, . . .
“Bush ‘needed a good news story,’ said one disgruntled administration partisan.” You don’t suppose that’s John Bolton behind that anonymous quote, do you? Whoever said it, it’s safe to assume that Bolton is among the below mentioned:
So in the five years that have transpired since Bush decided to do his Drugstore Cowboy act w/r/t North Korea, they’ve developed atomic weapons, and now managed to get themselves hundreds of millions of aid for agreeing to an inspection process a good deal less rigorous than that which Clinton got them to agree to. They get to keep their bombs, and their ability to build more has been put into hibernation from which it can easily be aroused.
And you all thought Kaiser Wilhelm II was dead! He’s alive, and well, and residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
D. Throat:
Like, for example, Armando and DHinMI? And the many others who have patterned themselves after those two?
Kos is painting himself into a corner here. People who haven’t even been involved in these wars are now noticing that Armando is totally out of control, literally a raving asshole. If Kos makes “ongoing asshole behavior” a bannable offense, it will soon become obvious to everyone that the site is run on a double standard.
He would have done better to ignore all this shit, but as JJB points out, he feels threatened by it, and now he’s stuck in the tar pit, flailing around and roaring while he sinks ever deeper.
What fun!
Re: the Bowers piece dissected by IOZ: that is such a laugh. One for the ages. I’m doing my own riff on it over at Supervixens.
… and Franco is his wife..
JJB: it will be (I believe) the first nation to do so (it seems to me South Africa might have surrendered its clandestine arsenal, but I can’t remember offhand)
Yes, SA had them and gave them up:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/rsa/nuke/index.html
I’m sure it’s NO coincidence that they gave them up shortly before they allowed full enfranchisement … enabling the ANC to take over.
omigoddess (from AFP via raw story):
“Updated: Eighteen people have been killed when a car bomb ripped through a bus carrying members of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards in a sensitive southeastern border province.
The bus was taking the Guards from their housing compound in the city of Zahedan to a military base when gunfire forced it to stop in front of the booby-trapped car, which then exploded.
An attack of this size and nature — a bomb strike on an elite force in broad daylight in an open street — is unprecedented in Iran.”
bush having a press conference today . I suppose he will be singing “My Funny Valentine”
Old fogey moment:
I really, really don’t get their aparent emphasis on blogrolling as Holy Grail/consumate blackmail tool. Like I said earlier, I don’t have a blogroll (never bothered to figure out how). I use them occasionally visiting a place like this, but mostly it’s not so big a deal to find blogs of interest via Google or just saying/posting to someone you already know, “Hey, I see lots of blogs about Issue X and its impact on Issue Y. I respect the thoughts you voice in your space on those things and was wondering if you could recommend something good.”
I’ve always done it that way, even before I was out of work. :/ Compared to hours of stuffing envelopes or leafletting neighborhoods or the myriad other scutwork I’ve done on local campaigns, it’s not really that hard.
When/how did something is innocent and fun-but-not-really-necessary become so bloody damn important that people can effectively threaten each other over it ?
(Sorry. I must be pretty naive compared to the rest of you…
Bowers just wrote a whole thread about blogrolls…basically the more you are linked to and on blogrolls and the higher your “rating” in Blogtopia. That is why Kos is already freaking out about people delinking him… it does have the effect of lowering his ranking… which he calculates into his business plan and sells to advertisers….
The more stupid things he does, the more I think he is taking advice from people who wish to sabotage him, tee, hee, tee, hee.
What the hell did he think would happen when he shit all over his supporters?
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JJB
Sorry about the first two tries, they went to spam. I have tried to loosen the filters and allow more links without a comment triggering either spam or moderation.
sigh.
Tuston,
Thanks, I thought that was the case, but couldn’t remember for certain.
SuperV,
On several occasions over the years, I emailed Kos, specified a few instances of Armando’s more outrageous behavior while he was running the site during the extended leave Kos took to write his book (none of said instances involving me, BTW), and asked him if this was the sort of thing he wanted going on in a website with his name on it. I never got a response to these two or three messages, but Armando did start raving a few times about my smearing him behind his back in emails, etc., so he was certainly aware of these.
Obviously, some people are entitled to carry on in as outrageous a fashion as they wish, while others who stand up to them in one way or another get banned.
outofwater,
The thing about Kos is that, much like Dim Son George Bush, he cannot ever back down or admit he was wrong. The only way to respond to negative feedback is to insist ever more strongly that he was right, and to threaten even more people with banning if they don’t stop complaining about his arbitrary, capricious behavior. And with this frame of mind, it’s inevitable he will seek out assurance from the people who agree to tell him what they are certain he wants to hear. Classic cognitive dissonance.
BTW, Boy George is giving a presser right now, and is out of control even by his standards.
Hey, Mcat, check this out:
I’m proud to be mentioned in such august company
It’s remarkable to me how hateful these people are toward women who call them on their bullshit. They get angry with the guys who do it, too, but it’s the women who drive them to new heights of fear and loathing. Bitchcuntwhoreharpies! Menstruating she-devils!
well yes, it is women who really get their goat.
All of them yearing for that “evergetic girl”…
Seems to be a widespread issue.
Hey, we’re “energetic girls” - we’re just not doing what they WANT us to do. Drives them craaaaaaazy…..
“No one who wasn’t an asshole was banned.”
you can ignore the rest to marvel at the sheer defiance of reality.
the reality is, no one who is an asshole has been banned.
but keep the dream alive kos!
There aren’t words for how deeply that comment offends me. It must mean he hasn’t read a thing I’ve written here. No matter what he says, I know, deep in my heart, the honor he describes is mine.
“Romper, bomper, stomper, boo, tell me, tell me, tell me true. Magic mirror, tell me today, did all my friends have fun at play?”
Re: D. Throat (#44)
I get that blogrolling is a revenue generator for the big guys. I guess what I was wondering is if the smaller sites get throw into a tizzy over delinking: Why ? If you have a small site with a only a small but loyal base and maybe a tip jar, you’re probably not generating a huge income from ads and you probably don’t need one. So has Kos got these people so thoroughly cowed that they think eventually buckets of ad revenue are going to trickle down on them, Reagan-style if they just love him hard enough ? Are people really so gullible and so shallow ?
addendum:
Listening to the Bush “press conference” now:
His meds need adjustment again, he seems like he’s on the angry, edgy end of a coke binge. He’s rambling, saying nothing, but he’s never sounded more pissed off. What do you do for that, get drunk? Take some valium?
He hasn’t taken questions yet; did he declare war on Iran? I can’t wait for him to explain how the Sunni government running the Iraq can’t control the Iraqi Sunni “insurgents” from importing weapons from the Sunnis in Iran. All we can do is invade or attack Iran to prevent more Sunni violence in Iran, or make that Iraq. Whatever, we just need more war. Oh, yeah, and the nukes.
And the Democrats run away from impeachment with their tail between their legs. Nobody can tell me anymore that it’s because they’re helpless and stupid. It’s because they want war, too. And they want a bogeyman to blame when it all gets fucked up. Assholes.
Shit, I’m clairvoyant. Bush said almost exactly what I predicted. He all but declares war on Iran.
Ms. X- Exactly. The Democratic Party reaction leaves no doubt that there is no longer even the appearance of an opposition party, only one imperialistic war party. It scares the shit out of me.
SuperV (#49):
I just noticed that MSOC’s “Pyrro has been banned” dkos diary, that the BTArmando comment you linked to was in, has been deleted.
The question I wonder about is, was it deleted by MSOC, or Moulitsas?
Our main hope at this point is an epidemic of fragging by ground troops, and other acts of sabatoge against their own masters. I dont know who I cribbed this philosophy from, but those who had the most power to save us have abandoned us in their zeal for sucking up more money and more perks. Only those with the least power might still possess the will to monkeywrench this shit.
Great diary just up on MLW, by someone named Josh Langdon:
LOL!!! Lay it right on ‘em, buddy, whoever you are.
Clean up needed in Aisle 12
DThroat: I guess Pastor Dan didn’t sell enough cookbooks!
outofwater: sorry to bum you out
I think the reason Armando et al. can’t stop talking about me is that “hrh” is so easy to type.
Seems Steny Hoyer (I remember some on dk defending this dino) has ‘accidentally’ received a Republican memo dictating how Republicans are supposed to argue for an increase in troops in Iraq. I have a feeling he’s been on their list for quite a while and they just forgot to remove him.
The directive, as if it weren’t predictable, states they are not to talk about the surge, but emphasize the dangers of ‘Islamofascism’ - typical, and Dems ought to be able to force them to stop these tactics.
We are writing to urge you not to debate the Democratic Iraq resolution on their terms, but rather on ours.
Leaked GOP Letter
Always on their terms, even when the Dems are in the majority.
Ms xeno, I can’t find it now, but in one of your posts last night you said perfectly what has bothered me about Dems for so long. No one talks about the human cost of these wars in terms of the Iraqis. I do remember that Sen. Byrd addressed it in his speech opposing the IWR, but not many since then then. It is rarely talked about on so-called Dem blogs either.
Your post made me think that if it was spoken about often, the American people would be more tuned in to the harm this country is doing. I know it’s the policy of this administration to demonize the ‘enemy’ but Dems too? It seems so. Anyway, it was refreshing to see so clear a statement on the immorality of these wars and on the human cost that very few here seem to even realize.
“Our main hope at this point is an epidemic of fragging by ground troops, and other acts of sabatoge against their own masters.”
i don’t think so. they’re all being told what to do by the big masters of war. and telling our soldiers to kill each other is…i dunno…
i just can’t believe nobody in the media points out how whacked out bush acts. compared to dean.
sv- You have acquired mythic proportions. No offence intended here either, but the demon you’ve become there far exceeds anything you accomplished in real life. It is a live cyber-Orwellian tale, and I no longer believe they don’t know they act a parody, it just can’t be accidental.
Could someone please explain PD’s diary? I understand that it is supposed to be funny, I just don’t understand why.
” Friendship and Forgiveness
by: Armando
Wed Feb 14, 2007 at 09:03:40 AM PST ”
I’m sure you can all guess where that is posted.
And they said it wouldn’t last:
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that made me feel better. Please indulge me.
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by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Feb 13, 2007 at 10:46:55 PM CST
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Hugs?
Will those make you feel better?
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by Elise on Wed Feb 14, 2007 at 12:07:02 AM CST
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Naaaah . . .
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by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Feb 14, 2007 at 12:11:05 AM CST
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Okay fine…be that way.
Here I was being nice…go hug-less then…
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by Elise on Wed Feb 14, 2007 at 12:13:37 AM CST
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What do I look like, Charlie Brown?
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by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Feb 14, 2007 at 12:17:41 AM CST
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I didn’t shut you down…I just said you had to share.
Jeez. You know I adore you…especially today.
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by Elise on Wed Feb 14, 2007 at 12:25:01 AM CST
That was my take… it is not funny…at all.
More like he is trying to cover up his rage under a very thin practically non existent veil of snark. heehee… not
Cad, disobedience from down below is an old, old form of last resort. It sure as hell wasn’t invented in Vietnam. I’m not “telling” anyone to do anything and why would they listen to me if I did ? Also, troops kill their own all the time, for far dumber reasons than a convulsive hatred of stupidity pushed on them by the Big Boys and reinforced by the people who should be protecting them. Just ask Pat Tillman’s family.
Sabrina, for you:
well one can speculate. they’re verrrrrrrry protective of their links. click-throughs of any type drive stats which drive advertising business. the practice as i see it is to link to “each other” almost exclusively, or to straight news sources, and little else. when one site’s traffic is down, they put up a link (think DIGBY IS THE GREATEST-read this!). you see this often. atrios will toss booman or pandagon a bone, kos linking to digby or to firedoglake by way of example. the attempt is to drive traffic ONLY to one of the fellow “inside-the-circle” sites. i began to get a small clue one time when mediagirl, who has some expertise on the server side, pointed out how they would go so far as to link to “enemy” sites in the most round-about of ways, linking to a cached temporary page, not the actual page itself in order to minimize the “digital appearance” of traffic in the stats kept on blog traffic. she explained it to us and indicated that it was a relatively sophisticated way of minimizing the appearance of traffic up in her blogstats. iirc it was assumed the front pager who made the link in question could have had technical assistance in doing so, if not, a high degree of “how linking really works” was being exhibited by a front pager. i speculate that there’s a whole checklist of rules and approved sites, sites that need traffic, sites that need to be “pimped”. i would assume all the front pagers have some type of list of sites that are “link-worthy” as well as sites that are taboo. so being off the blogroll is one thing, but thats not the only thumbscrew by any means. i’m convinced there’s some sort of blacklist, written or not, i’d bet money it exists. i’m guessing being put on the no-link blacklist is what keeps the clones so curbed.
Talk about gullible . Is there a wife beater in the world who doesn’t do this after he pulverizes the woman? Is their a victim wife who doesn’t fall for it?
I’m sure you can all guess where that is posted.
Up his asshole would be the most easily accessed and frequently visited place.
It is embarrassing no matter how brutal and ugly he abuses her she always crawls back… begging his forgiveness.
Armando, I love you. I ask your forgiveness for the pain I have caused you — and I forgive you for the pain you have caused me.
outofwater - oh the idiocy… I mean we all have bad days, but just how many times is armando going to get away with pulling this crap?
And yes, the hrh myth is far beyond the reality. From what I recall the whole thing originated during the troll wars when hrh simply made strong and coherent comments about the manner in which the site was policed. She continued to make the same statements until the end. Of course the self-appointed Kos cops [with whom, I'll admit, I once flirted briefly] are beyond criticism - like the boy king himself.
One should really look at the Jules Siegel post in response to Kos in the link above too. I’ve conversed on and off with Jules & what he says is right on in this [and many other cases]… Hmm, I wonder when he’ll be banned [in fact I thought he already had].
Yeeesssshhh!!!
I guess having the woman to whom you may or may not still be married put up a website detailing what a detestable rat you are and emailing everyone in your address book with a link to it pales in comparison to losing his friendship with Emsock and pyrrho.
And for all the puke-inducing, sycophantic comments people have showered him with over the years, this one stands out as something special:
ms.__xeno,
Sorry. I must be pretty naive compared to the rest of you…
Don’t feel bad. I was posting at Little Orange Footballs for more than two years before I began to realize there was a lot going on behind the scenes that was being carefully hidden. It never occurred to me that so many people would try to use a forum like that for ulterior motives, or that they would see it as a shortcut to a different, more interesting and far more lucrative career. The greedy, amoral hustler played by Charlie Sheen in Wall Street almost 20 years ago is a template for at least two generations of people who think that making a fortune and retiring by the age of 30-35 is a realistic goal one should try to achieve by any means possible, ethical conduct and legality be damned. And even if a lot of these people are pushing 40 or already past it and have failed in several attempts to make this dream happen, there’s always some other thing that comes along and makes them dream the same dream all over. What’s really sad to me about all this is that I remember seeing another, much more agreeable and likeable side to people like (just to take one example) musing85 a long time ago. I really think that a number of the most thuggish posters have changed so much that the people they were at the time they discovered dKos would be appalled by what they’ve morphed into over the years. That’s not to excuse them, just to show what an awful effect that site has had on so many people.
Re the links, I discovered Kosolini’s site from the blogroll at the now-defunct Media Whores Online, and even after I stopped posting at the former, I would use their blogroll for convenience sake. Talk about being lazy! And I use the blogroll on this site to get to Counterpunch most days. It’s a convenience that I assume lots of other people avail themselves of. Those blogroll links do matter.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/14/142648/386
Hmm. Look who’s talking.
Just skimmed that Pastor Dan diary. It is really odd what some people consider funny. He and Hunter should be given some kind of “Wit From The Witless” award for their recent efforts at being droll. At least the good man of the cloth didn’t reference carnal knowledge of horses in his attempt at a laugh riot. Still, what he does mention is indicative of a very nasty little mind.
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outofwater - yes, it’s ridiculous, isn’t it? Next they’ll be claiming that I shot Archduke Ferdinand, cancelled the original Star Trek, and traded Tom Seaver to the Reds for four minor leaguers.
colleen - LOL!!!
lucid - thanks for saying that, you have an accurate picture of what transpired. BTW, did you get my email? I really like your band! They remind me a lot of Stinking Liz.
JJB - great idea, don’t forget to add Bob Johnson to that list of unfunny folks.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of patchouli-stinking lefties that think being a leftist means everybody has to uncritically accept any sort of mental dandruff people shake off their heads.
They are all passive-aggressive weasels, who have a warped sense of what progressives really stands. It is amazing how so many people tolerate hypocritical, special pleading left-wingers whose cloying candy coating can barely conceal the poison pill inside.
They cop an attitude of ethical superiority against the Right and then turn around and do what they loathe at their convenience. If that is not the definition of a hypocrite - then somebody please hand me the new edition of the Orwellian Newspeak Dictionary.
If people are delinking good. Contempt for scumbags isn’t an either/or, it’s not a zero-sum game where we have to pick one scumbag over another. As much as we loath the Right that co-opts the symbolism and words of American liberty with none of the spirit, the same should be done to mush-headed lefties who attempt to hijack progressivism for a personal agenda which has nothing to do with anything but themselves.
I thought that this was a hoot.
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/2/14/142648/386/26#c26
sv- thanks for the compliment. We just got a new bassist, so we’re back on track and are finishing up a new album. I got your e-mail, but haven’t had a chance to respond yet. The site looks good though. I’ll spend some more time there tonight - oh btw, it wouldn’t let me register with my e-mail address. If I get the same error tonight, I’ll e-mail the web host like it says to.
XP - I think the essential problem is not that they’re faux lefties [as in patchouli wearing upper middle class white teenagers wanting to pretend they're hippies - when young and naive I was once one of them]; rather, the problem is they’re not lefties at all. There is certainly more of a lefty presence at say MLW or Booman than at Kos, but so many of them don’t really understand what ‘the left’ means. They’re mostly unquestioning capitalists [and that's not, here, to say that Marx is ultimately any better], free-traders, nationalists and American exceptionalists who accept rightist frames for the issues, almost unknowingly - call it the Reaganization of the left if you will… And to be honest, given their value set, the thuggery doesn’t surprise me.
Uh, I have to second lucid on this issue. So many of the folks batting around terms like “Left” have swallowed whole the framing of their supposed opponents. I do think much of that is borne of the Reagan Era and their yearning to have their own version of Reagan. Clinton was certainly close enough for jazz in that regard so it’s small wonder so many of them paint his reign as being a flowering of civilization when in fact 99% of it stank like rotten meat to anyone with a functioning soul.
bayprairie, thanks for the explanation. I enjoy Media Girl even when we don’t agree on things, because the writing is high quality and I love the way they/you guiltlessly skewer the trolls. The layout is a bit hard on my middle-aged eyes, however… [blush]
“I think the essential problem is not that they’re faux lefties … rather, the problem is they’re not lefties at all. There is certainly more of a lefty presence at say MLW or Booman than at Kos, but so many of them don’t really understand what ‘the left’ means. They’re mostly unquestioning capitalists [and that’s not, here, to say that Marx is ultimately any better], free-traders, nationalists and American exceptionalists who accept rightist frames for the issues, almost unknowingly - call it the Reaganization of the left if you will… And to be honest, given their value set, the thuggery doesn’t surprise me.”
This pretty much hits it. One of the biggest problems with the dkos site is how kos has managed to reframe his ideology as “progressivism.” I’ve read posts over there by folks who are clearly Republicans calling themselves progressives - they are against single-payer, they hate unions, they don’t want any kind of nationalization of resources - like ms xeno says, they just like slapping the label on themselves because Republicanism became embarrassing for them in its current form. Fundies and neocons will do that to an ideology, I guess. So they skipped over to kos and now get to be “hip” and “cool” because they are “progressive.” Without bothering with any of the true underlying beliefs to support their labeling. It’s one of the things I despise most about the site, this coopting of the language to suit their purposes. Gee, what other political party does that?? Pissing matches about unionism by folks who call themselves “progressive.” People who say they are “liberal” and arguing against single-payer. The same folks making snide comments about “welfare queens” and other classist, racist, misogynistic comments. It’s stomach churning.
They don’t hide it. That shit comes out because it’s what they truly believe. Their underlying rigid assumptions and conservative viewpoints. And there is tons of support for this faux-progressivism all over the site.
It’s top down. The authoritarianism, the conservative politics, the hatred of “others” - those who are different, feminists, “tree-huggers,” the poor, what have you. It’s all top down. It starts with the owner.
Well the owner did support Reagan after all, didn’t he. I think ultimately, I’d call it authoritarian centrist populism - it appeals to a people powered politics that screws the people.
and Henry Hyde… as a 17 y.o. Voted for Bush 41
ugh! Sometimes I’m extremely embarassed by my generation.
young privileged men have been enthusiastically supporting stupid right wing ideas ever since they started getting their selfish little hands on Atlas Shrugged. Your generation isn’t that different in that way.
Fortunately I’ve always had the good sense to never touch Ayn Rand… I even objected when my senior year High School English teacher wanted me to enter some essay contest sponsered by a Rand related group.
I wasn’t as smart as you, though luckily the allure didn’t last long. Couldn’t accept the coldbloodness of it.