Time and the river flowing… 24 April 2007
Posted by marisacat in Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, WAR!.trackback
Isn’t this the winner… I landed on it at Danny Schechter’s News Dissector… From the 1997 summer edition of the US Army War College quarterly, Parameters… and we certainly are living it..
There will be no peace. At any given moment for the rest of our lifetimes, there will be multiple conflicts in mutating forms around the globe. Violent conflict will dominate the headlines, but cultural and economic struggles will be steadier and ultimately more decisive. The de facto role of the US armed forces will be to keep the world safe for our economy and open to our cultural assault. To those ends, we will do a fair amount of killing.
We have entered an age of constant conflict. Information is at once our core commodity and the most destabilizing factor of our time. Until now, history has been a quest to acquire information; today, the challenge lies in managing information. Those of us who can sort, digest, synthesize, and apply relevant knowledge soar–professionally, financially, politically, militarily, and socially. We, the winners, are a minority.
For the world masses, devastated by information they cannot manage or effectively interpret, life is “nasty, brutish . . . and short-circuited.” The general pace of change is overwhelming, and information is both the motor and signifier of change. Those humans, in every country and region, who cannot understand the new world, or who cannot profit from its uncertainties, or who cannot reconcile themselves to its dynamics, will become the violent enemies of their inadequate governments, of their more fortunate neighbors, and ultimately of the United States. We are entering a new American century, in which we will become still wealthier, culturally more lethal, and increasingly powerful. We will excite hatreds without precedent. [whew, let's snip that... ]
Needless to say it is a mass of rolling hubris, graf after graf of it. For the 2000, 01, 02, and so on, graduates of the various military colleges, I wonder what they think of the endless war… From what I read recently, while still shy of 50% a significant percentage of relatively recent grads from the officer ranks are leaving at the first opportunity.
Wonder how they feel in those schools about the death of Pat Tillman. My evening news is just about to cover the soon to come (tomorrow I think) hearings.
Suicide by president.
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Jeff at Rigorous Intuition takes an elegant, buying-into-nothing route to reach this graf at the close of a mid-March entry (he is still on hiatus):
So what’s my point?
Critical thinking isn’t instinctual. We shouldn’t presume, in our disdain of the official story (whatever story that may be, and however official), that we’ve reached the truth once we stand with it’s official opposition, because we may be either boxing ourselves in with rigid either/or thinking, or be boxed in by the authorities who mean to control both thesis and antithesis.
We should know that some boxes feel like home. They’re meant to feel that way.
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Because so much is so terrible… the respite of art…;)
I am here in mimicry of Scruggs who posted first at UFO Breakfast, but, what the hell, I did it anyway… 
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That Army thing feels like self-fulfilling prophecy coupled with self-serving distortions used to justify further crimes.
U.S. study shows no breast cancer/abortion link
What do you want to bet that this story doesn’t make the front page at DKos? I’ll go further – I bet that it won’t get covered at all.
That place just gets worse and worse. Look at this: Christian iconography creakily rolled out and compared to – wait for it – Harry Reid! Ugh.
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Hey ms x, I love your collages!
mcat
that parameters quote
don’t mind that ….
its by
good ole ralph peters
a brass hats’
junk yard dog
with a flair for phrasing
cut him slack
and he’ll bite anything
he can reach
a pure 360 scrapper
for the iraqotrap agin the iraqotrap
who runs his switches ???
prolly a tumor on his front lobes
like
that one
in charlie whitman’s head
On another note: some good poetry here.
paine.. I just don’t think that sort of view of the world and theorizing (or planning) about the future is rare, at all.
Via TruthOut:
MC-
It’s a whitewash.
Here’s a sampling comments from TPM:
well I think it mirrors the shadow dance done on the Hill w/r/t Gonzales.
Meaningless. The Dems can fake it all they want, the Republicans can shift the light from the Dems (something they are past masters at), the time for the Democratic party to run against Bush was years ago. And longer ago to oppose him.
I see EVERYTHING now as diversion. Used to pass time an dkeep that table top clear… LOL Waxman is not a majority in the HOuse, just one person.
Hopefully at last the criminal Karl Rove, will be exposed and properly prosecuted for his role in the downfall of this country.
Otoh, these people never give up – even when they are caught breaking law after law. Wolfowitz is a perfect example:
Wolfowitz Hires Prominent Lawyer in Fight to Stay at World Bank
The World Bank wants him to go, as the UN wanted Bolton to go. What a disgrace that any of these criminals were ever allowed to represent the US abroad. But that may be the only way to bring them down because the US itself knew what they were and did nothing to stop them.
Crooks like Tom Delay and Richard Perle, one already indicted, the other under investigation, are still allowed to lecture Americans on patriotism. It’s laughable really but indicative of how far the country has sunk in terms of morality and what we expect. The media is totally complicit in the downfall of this country over the past several years. It too needs to be thoroughly cleaned out.
Worse, Tom Delay is allowed to lecture Americans on JESUS CHRIST.
Supposedly Mr Delay’s Lord and Savior.
Well mcat, you know the historical Jesus supposedly did hang out with criminals…
Oow, it crossed my mind to be honest, that this could be a smokescreen, but I think if it is, it will blow up in their faces. Too much is now being revealed about Rove and his operation inside the WH. They may just be trying to cover for themselves, to be able to say they too had concerns, even if they ‘fail’ to uncover any ‘wrong-doing’ on the part of Rove!
Meantime, if you have not been tuned in, Pat Tillman’s brother and mother, as well as Jessica Lynch, have been giving devastating testimony on the death of Pat Tillman and the ‘creation of heroes’ by the military.
Pat Tillman’s brother pulled no punches, he basically said that he believes his brother’s death was ‘fratricide’. He was fantastic.
I hope the testimony will be repeated, it is still going on on C-Span 3 and I think some highlights made it to MSNBC. I also just heard a clip of his testimony on the radio.
His family believes he was murdered because he had spoken out against the war in Iraq and was about to come home (before the election) and join the Kerry campaign, which would have been devastating for the Bush campaign. Then, to add insult to injury, in their opinion, the military, knowing they were lying about his death, tried to use it to get Bush re-elected.
They are not giving up no matter how many military investigations say it was ‘friendly fire’. Jessica Lynch was also wonderful, and her doctor testified he saw no bullet wounds on her body, contrary to the reports at the time.
Hi Lucid, re your question in the last thread, (a little OT, sorry) re playing on the Eastend! There are now so many different kinds of night-clubs and places to go for entertainment in the Hamptons, but don’t forget the North Shore which also has some great opportunities for bands that are not suitable for the old ‘coffee house’ crowd! I will look in the local papers (available online). A friend of mine who played acoustic guitar with his girlfriend (she plays flute) just went in to a few places a few years ago, and asked if they were interested in letting him play. Many of them feature different music on different nights, eg ‘all blues night’ or ‘all hard rock’ etc. They told him they had a night for his kind of music which was not filled so ‘yes, they were interested’.
My suggestion would be to get a listing of places that feature live bands and contact them. I’ll ask around also. This is the best time to do it as they have to schedule everything in advance and may still not have a full schedule -
Thanks SB. Yeah – I gotta start getting on this pronto. We used to have a connection up in the Hamptons, but is was a band full of trust-fund flakes that could never get their act together & book a show with us. We actually have gotten radio play in central LI, but before we could book some fall shows there our bassist left town.
Anyhow I’ll start browsing online tonight – if you come accross any club that looks interesting let me know: noxes at verizon dot net.
Tom Delay is allowed to lecture Americans on JESUS CHRIST.Marisacat
Lol, yes, I remember after he was indicted and forced to quit Congress, he announced that he might become a preacher, or missionary or something. He is certifiable, imo. The public seems to realize it, but the media is still in awe of this crook. Not only is his sanity in question, but a country that ever took him seriously needs to have a reality check as to its own collective sanity.
Obama foreign policy speech, edited version via RCP.
I think that is called, on to greatness boobs and rubes. Vote for me, more of the same. Go fuck yourselves. Cue Sousa.
Full Text via TPM
And, if you can stand it, the Stoller take. Right in line with the speech, I’d say:
oh I am sooo excited.
SB-We’ll see, I hope you’re right.
TPM linked to a shakesville story about the investigation. It raises similar issues
Oh yeah, I’d never visited Shakespeare’s Sister before, it’s a neat site.
Obama just referenced Kissinger? The man who can’t leave the country because he’ll be arrested on sight for war crimes? The architect of the dissappeared?
And what, exactly, is there to like here?
Obama irks me more by the day.
well from what I get off obama, but for his brief years (3, iirc) as a community organiser for a local church, he is very much a Clintonista. I doubt he ever left that camp post ’92. Yes he made his “dumb war” speech in advance of the war, but he also ran from that speech and actively hid it for years. Took it down from his website when he was running for the senate (according to BC)
At one point Black Commentator published it in full as he was denying it so vigorously. Now it is resuscitated as a campaign device. Little more.
Lucid, #14 – will email if I hear of anything that might be of interest to you!
Kucinich planned to introduce articles of impeachment against Cheney today. But, poor Cheney had to go to the hospital!
Kucinich Puts VP Impeachment on Hold
Kucinich’s call for impeachment was getting more attention than I expected. I haven’t checked daily kos or the other ‘democratic’ blogs, but I’m sure we’ll hear that same old ‘and if Cheney resigns, who will we get, John McCain? That’s bad politics, he’ll be set up for the 2008 nomination if that happens’ blah, blah.
This is why criminals continue to hold high offices in this country. There’s always an excuse as to why they should not be prosecuted for crimes committed against the American people. It’s pure BS imo. We can’t impeach Bush because we might get Cheney, we can’t impeach Cheney because we might get McCain, and so we get two more years of the most criminal administration ever. That makes perfect sense! Except it doesn’t.
Rudy, Obama and Hillary are fungible.
Let’s pray for a dark horse. Shoot, Gore is looking good to me right now.
Bill Moyers is back on tv. He has a special coming up on PBS called ‘Buying the War’.
Bill Moyers’ Blog
The first comment on his blog following the review, asks some good questions. I’m not sure the media bought the lies, I think they chose to propogate them, some because they were complicit, others out of fear. So, maybe the question ought to be ‘did the media deliberately lie to the American people about the Iraq War and if so, why?’ and then go from there.
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The Waxman Committee hearings on Pat Tillman’s death is getting coverage in the media.
Tillman’s brother blasts military
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And in other news, Bush is in Harlem pushing his No Child Left Behind program, despite the latest revelations of corruption involved in that horrific program which never should have passed Congress, again with help from many Democrats. It also had the hidden recruitment clause which gave the military permission to collect private data on students from schools, and any school that refused to comply, would be denied federal funding. Dems have yet to explain their role in passing that draconian legislation.
that paragraph from rigorous institution is brilliant.
SB
Pity the Dems supported NCLB and even now just meul. Burbles about “funding” it. They intend to do so little as to do nothing.
Testing, and profits for all the independent testing firms (in which Neil Bush is involved) hae shot thru the roof.
Bush woo’d both Kennedy and George Miller. It was highly successful.
Marisacat, I agree re NCLB. But they now have a chance to undo the damage. It has been a total failure, not to mention the corruption invovled (districts ordered to buy from specific vendors, all friends of Bush). The use of children to further enrich themselves, and to make sure that many of the poor sign up for the military, is as reprehensible as anything else this adminitration and the Bush family in particular, are capable of. But the Dems have helped, every step along the way.
But Democrats could stop this program now, but I have not found anything yet showing any resistance to it from the DP.
I always felt that the title ‘No Child Left Behind’ was a sick joke by the Bush administration – which it was, whether intentional or not.
Br-r-r-r-r-eaking. Tho really, broken, the system, the military, the nation…, to be more accurate.
SB, well they lied about the Houston “miracle” (that led to NCLB) and used a black man to do it. So classic.
I don’t expect much. A few years ago I poked around (watching Medicare fall apart across Bush 1 and little cessation under Clinton 1 and II, those people who said they promised health care… LOL) and found that in ’73 when Kennedy pushed HMO legislation he (and the Democrats) promised it as the “first step” (his words) to nationalised health care.
The game is to break the public school system slowly over years. I don’t think, other than here and there, that the Dems care much, at all.
Vouchers, tax credits for private/parochial, etc, gaming the system, etc. I don’t hear a great outcry.
They may tweak it (NCLB) but not much else.
from raw:
“A spokesman for Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice suggested that she had more important things to do than testify before Congress the day before a House Committee is threatening to issue a subpoena for her cooperation with an investigation into the evidence used to build the case for the Iraq War.”
and pray tell, what important things does she have to do? Broker peace in the Middle East?
lie about birth pangs, I think.
They better issue subpoenas and be done with it.
I mean does congress get a lot done in summer? That the Great American Family notices?
Parents may refuse to allow their children’s information to be released. But few know they have that right.
that is right, they have to specifically opt OUT.
condi’s schedule:
Daily Appointments Schedule for April 24
SECRETARY OF STATE RICE:
NO PUBLIC APPOINTMENTS
MORNING PRESS GAGGLE:
10:00 a.m. with Sean McCormack
Pick up time for all press: 9:55 a.m. from room 2310 / no late escort
DAILY PRESS BRIEFING:
(at approximately 12:00 p.m. with Sean McCormack)
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Travel to Norway
Secretary Rice will travel to Oslo, Norway April 26 for an informal meeting of NATO Foreign Ministers.
I thought Condi’s schedule was more like:
8:00 Wake up & shower to wash blood off hands.
9:00 Breakfast with
husbandBush9:30 Fly to NY on taxpayer money
10:30 Buy shoes
12:00 Lunch with CEO’s at expensive midtown location on taxpayer money
1:30 Play tennis with Monica Seles
3:30 Meet with members of AIPAC to discuss how US foreign policy can benefit Israel
6:00 Dinner with CEO’s at expensive Tribeca location on taxpayer money
8:30 Fly back to DC on taxpayer money
10:00 Read bedtime story to
husbandBush.10:30 Spend time in hot tub to wash blood off hands.
11:00 Lights out.
Lol, Lucid – Condy was also subpoena’d in the Aipac spy trial. The defendants’ lawyers issued the subpoena claiming she can testify that they did not need to spy as top US Government officials willingly passed them ‘sensitive’ information. Don’t know what the status of that subpoena is since the media never mentions that upcoming trial.
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Outofwater: Parents may refuse to allow their children’s information to be released. But few know they have that right.
True, except that this was covered in the bill. Schools were not allowed to inform parents of the law, and if they did, it was another reason for losing federal funding. Since most of us would never have suspected that our government was spying on children in order to sign them up (without the consent of their parents) that provision was useless until at least a year or two after the law went into effect and people began to learn about it.
I do remember one school in California I think, defying the law and notifying parents that they were being ordered to turn over info about their kids. I don’t know what happened in that case.
That information is publicised widely in this area, thru media, both TV, print and radio. Even so, hard to reach everyone, when ti shoudl have been mandated that the school advise parents.
SF works (depending on who is on the School Board here) to deny ROTC a place in the public schools here, so the idea of a school turning over information to recruiters does not go down well.
Re: Robert S. Bennett, the lawyer selected by Mr. Wolfowitz,…
Guess Wolfie is going for Bennett’s skill in dragging out a case for years because as a defense attorney, he basically sucks.
Marisacat #35 – you are right, California schools did provide the information that parents could opt out of the NCLB recruitment program. Actually, I just read the provision, and it does allow schools to inform parents of their options.
So, it isn’t as bad as I thought..
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Marie, what’s amazing is how much Wolfowitz wants to hold on to that job. They never go voluntarily, no matter what is revealed about them or how many people want them to go. They will all have to be driven out of office and so far, most of them are still there. I really don’t know what it will take to get rid of them. How much more do we need to know?
Cheney, eg, under fire for his lies, is on tv attacking Dems again on the Iraq War bill (why, I don’t know since they are giving him all he wants) while articles of impeachment are being filed against him tomorrow. They have nothing but disdain for the American people.
Sabrina — nobody willingly leaves a “Master of the Universe” job. They’re all sick puppies.
Memo to Daily Kos’ BarbinMd – it is not good news that the Office of Special Counsel will investigate Karl Rove. Didn’t read the thread, so maybe someone clued her in by now but she should have done a little research before publishing a FP story on the news. I think most people were pretty skeptical about this info from the beginning and most blogs, including those treated with disdain often by DK, hesitated to jump for joy until they checked out who was doing the investigating. Including THIS ONE! Lol.
Marie, too true, but what does it say about this country that for so many years these sickos have been allowed free reign to do whatever they wanted? It’s pretty depressing and even more so that the opposition party colluded with them many times, some of them voting to confirm some of the worst of Bush’s nominees.
Dammit. I’m missing a Patti Smith acoustic show tonight at Bowery Ballroom. Didn’t even know it was happening until I walked by there to catch the train & it was sold out. Grrr. I’m usually on top of it enough to catch her whenever she plays in town.
Just saw this in a TruthOut email:
Haven’t had a chnce to read it … No big surprise tho…
Lately, there has been what should be an embarrassing pattern between TPM and the DK front page. About two hours after TPM posts a story, some front-pager posts the same story, without credit naturally.
What does K mean, he won’t “kick a man while he’s down?”
Fuck, that bastard shoots his friends in the fucking face. He eats babies for breakfast and willingly sacrifices soldiers and civilians alike to the volcano god Halliburton. Kick him, dammit. Stomp on his head. Grab something hard and heavy and break his fucking kneecaps. Cheney has no compunctions about doing such things himself.
This is a fight for civilization, dammit. When he’s down is the best fucking time to kick him. This isn’t Sunday school.
While the Dems and their lapdog blogs continue to avoid the ongoing criminal theft of the right to vote, Green candidate Fitrakis keeps fighting the good fight.
Rosenfeld & Fitrakis:
I don’t think Reid is rational. He revs up with a camera. I have thought that for a long time, back to before 2004 election…. He appears fine, as people often do, as he is within familiar surrounds iwth LOTS OF HELP, but really just a garrulous old man.
FWIW:
forget feeding them, clothing them, sheltering them, educating them, providing them with a world that hasn’t been used up … it’s vitally important to expand censorship to protect the children.
Probably old news but heard on the BBC World News, Mexico City voted for first trimestre abortion.
NYT link
A start…
Thank goodness homeland security is there to keep us safe this dangerous Canuck:
The border’s are secure!
The Aussies have themselves some crackerjack security too.
I don’t think Reid is rational.
Who needs rationality when you’re a saint!
It’s so hard to be a saint when you’re just a geriatric Mormon out on the street.
Fascist America, in 10 easy steps – Naomi Wolf.
ugh. on campus today, the anti-abortion brigade, was just outside the art building with their enlarged 5000x pics of first-trimester abortion. never saw them on campus before, but the anti-gay brigade also selectively held their rally around the art building, last year.
was too busy to post pic of “A woman who died when abortions were illegal.”, but there is always tomorrow.
My son just told me that I’m a good mother, but I’m not maternal person. This was part of a conversation about something like broccoli, totally unemotional. That’s the point, I suppose.
I’m afraid of Americans:
outofwater, thanks for the compliment. However, Mcat is in big doo-doo with my personal BMT-sponsored lawyer for posting that pic w/o my approval. She’s only safe for now because I’m broke. That goes for you, too, SV, you foul woman-hater you… :p
Speaking of destitution, both physical and moral, I need somebody to explain to me in fifty words or less who Boxer thinks she’s fooling with the “Choice Bill ?” If she were serious, she’d call for Reid to step down from his post before wasting everyone’s time on a bill the Big Blue Patriarchs will never let fly.
If you all covered this while I was once again hitting my Mac with a hammer and cursing the entire Jobs empire with a megaphone, just ignore my query. I’m reading backwards to catch up.
Oh, it wasn’t outofwater. It was SV. Now I can’t sue her. Especially since I really dig the poetry.
The rest of you had better watch out though. And no looking at the pictures I posted of my lawyer, either.
out of water: My son just told me that I’m a good mother, but I’m not maternal person.
I’m the same way. I was never “maternal”, or even much interested in having kids, but when I finally happened to have one, I turned into a good mother. Albeit a tense and hypervigilant one.
Dunno about the broccoli, though.
Actually the only thing I have gotten from Boxer is on e coli.
Nothing on the SC ruling. Obviously e coli in the food source is considered a broad based subject and criminalising a medical procedure is not.
She too, along with 8 other Democratic owmen in the senate, signed a letter of support for Casey… so………. too bad I would have to say.
He killed a veto override vote count in the senate on Stem Cell. And they can run again on it in 08. And they will.
SV-Hypervigilance.
Ye[, I’ve got bunches of that. A frequent complaint is my requirement of helmets for bicycle rides in rush hour traffic. I chased him down the street yesterday, and he is nearly grown.
My justification is that it’s his diapers I’d be changing into my old age should he become brain injured, so it’s about me. That could be why he thinks I’m not maternal, too factual.
Or maybe I’m not maternal.
oow – Yes, helmets, definitely – my husband is an MD and has worked many years in emergency rooms, and he says, wear a helmet for EVERYTHING where you are out on wheels/skis/skates, even something as innocuous as biking. He’s told me about some horrific brain injuries resulting from seemingly dumb stuff like rollerblading. You don’t even have to have a big collision. Just falling and hitting your head at sufficient speed will cause huge problems. So you are quite right.
Also, it’s OK for a woman not to be maternal. No need to justify it.
Lol, ms x, promise not to look at the pictures of your lawyer that you posted. We all know that even if you posted them, with his name and address, it doesn’t mean WE can talk about him! That would be a breach of the code of blog ethics!
Oh yes, someone asked a few threads back, how the copyright investigation was going. Well, it seems to have stalled because Miss D has not yet completed her part of the investigation – she was supposed to take the chihuahua and follow either armando or Glenn Reynolds to determine if they are the same person. If they are not, then the copyright for ‘heh’ may belong to Reynolds (unless it belongs to Beavis and Butthead which is another story). Speaking of lawsuits, this could be a big one.
We’ve been accused of investigating armando’s private life and we’re not living up to our reputation. Now that Miss D solved her vaccuum bag problem, I hope she can complete her part of the assignment soon. This delay is a serious blow to the reputation of the Vags.
outofwater, mothers are practical, so I don’t think being practical means you’re not maternal – just the opposite, imo.
For the next five years I will view the teenage years as pathological, which they are.
If only one could convince the temporarily insane that it is passing. Such is the nature of insanity.
One of my mother’s sisters was the most amazing BITCH. I mean really, breathtaking. Astounding at it. Not an effort either, she was all the time. “Hello” was ALWAYS followed by somthing amazingly rude and bitchy.
AND was the most amazing mother, absolutely in love with small children too…not just her own grandchildren.
People come in all shapes and versions.
“Armenians all over the world commemorate this great tragedy on April 24, because it was on that day in 1915 when 300 Armenian leaders, writers, thinkers and professionals in Constantinople (present day Istanbul) were rounded up, deported and killed. Also on that day in Constantinople, 5,000 of the poorest Armenians were butchered in the streets and in their homes.”
umm–a badly formatted, as usual, post relating to above at Jb.
SSV- My sister-in-law calls some of the equipment my son favored before we moved from a rural environment “donor cycles.”
They’d fly around these ranches on God knows what, mostly ATV’s and jeeps, sometimes they’d ride horses. All of it was just so dangerous. It was an extraordinarily difficult parenting balance between regulating safety and controlling rebellion.
Teaching them to control themselves is just this close to impossible.
SB-Here’s redundant the truth Armando.
The dude suffers painfully if he isn’t the center of controversy. His intellectual contributions are overweighted with a ton of lead by his needy, sickly, desperate gasp for all the air in the room.
Mcat – LOL about your mother’s sister! I’m the opposite – scrupulously polite in social interactions (until I get really super pissed-off), but I’m not “in love with children”. I was never one of those women who would rush to coo over the infant that someone brought into the office. “Oh look, Susie has brought in her new baby!” “Very nice. Excuse me, I see there’s a new pot of coffee!” I’ve gotten more sympathetic towards babies since having one of my own, but not much.
oow – the ATVs are the worst. We’re NEVER getting one. Horses aren’t so bad – at least they have intelligence and a self-preservation instinct so they won’t just casually roll over on you and kill you.
We used to live in Minnesota, where motorcyclists are not required to wear helmets. When we’d see the phalanxes of “helmet-free” bikers buzzing by, my husband would mutter “organ donors”.
Teaching them to control themselves is just this close to impossible.
Oh Shit.
oow – Here’s redundant the truth Armando.
Has Armando been making any noise? I missed it. The last I saw, he was posting at TalkLeft and getting about six comments per diary.
I don’t really know on Armando.. I posted links to his 4 USELESS posts on the SC ruling… just for the hell of it.
I assume he rotates between TL MLW and BHD but i don’ really read any of those regularly.
Well Helen was aberrational in her love of small children… No one in that family (3 sisters and a brother) or among my cousins is a biller or cooer.
My mother’s other sister (and I did not hear this til after Dolly died, it was not some ‘famous family story’) gave birth to her first child on election day in ’32. When she came to all she wanted to know was “Did Roosevelt win?”
LOL. Oh I laughed so hard when I heard that. What a hoot!!
Oh shit.
I’s just like the “terrible twos” but without the fun for mom. I loved them at that stage of becoming themselves. Reliving it with a person who needs a shave isn’t as cute.
During adolescence, each of my children have behaved the way they did during their first “rebellion” at the end of babyhood. The next time there were just more words. My point being the next phase is entirely predictable, for better or worser.
The Indian Wars never ended:
Also on All Things Considered tonight. The part w/ the interview with the former Indian policewoman from Alaska about her murdered sister (tortured to death) is heartwrenching.
SV-He he has another persona at MLW,–Jake.
That’s all I know.
Final Step to Initiate Impeachment: VT House on Wednesday.
oow
is Armando Jake’s Guilt (or quilt, I never looked that close) at MLW?
that would explain, two monikers, one asshole.
LOL.
definitely wear the helmets. i have seen three people die before my very eyes because they weren’t wearing bike helmets. one college kid whose front tire locked suddenly, when i was in 3rd grade; one vietnamese guy in hanoi who got clipped in traffic and took a nose dive into a curb, during my year abroad as an undergraduate; one chinese guy in beijing who got nailed by a truck crossing the road in front of the east gate of qinghua university, where i was studying language.
i used to bitch about my mean mother who forced me to wear them, and actually made me walk 4 miles to school in HS for a week when one of her network of PTA spies caught me not wearing it one day; after witnessing the second death, i stopped complaining. i must have been the only person in beijing wearing a helmet, but i figured you get gawked at enough just for being a foreigner, taking it up a notch and wearing a helmet wasn’t really much of a change.
the voice doesn’t seem quite right for armando, though.
I must have a thick skull. I was knocked cold head first on the pavement – the cab was probably up to 25 MPH before I was loosed – judging by the fact I was sprinting as fast as I could to keep pace…
No damage to my brain. I adamantly argued to leave the hospital because scans showed that there was no brain damage [and I also adamantly argued against the cops & paramedics in a completely deluded state to let me just walk home].
I can understand protective mothers though. I can imgaine if I had a child, I would respond in much the same way. It’s just that most of the deadliest stuff usually happens in what one thinks of as the most benign situations…
As for the teenage years. Well, I once thought it was completely OK to drive I-94 on acid. Amazingly I live to tell the tale.
MitM:
The reservation system and the systemic psychology of permanent disempowerment it has bestowed upon generations of Native Americans is beyond despicable. If we speak of reparations for slavery [with which I agree], we must first deal with making amends with the monstrous way we’ve treated Native Americans. What is worse, is that it is something both ongoing and completely ignored by most of the country.
Jake’s Quilt?? Oh, I should dart on over to MLW and check that out. But…. the idea of going to MLW is too boring. Not only does the thing load like a dying bear (as MCat has aptly observed) but once it loads and you’re there reading it, it doesn’t get a hell of a lot better. It’s sugary and sloppy and suffocating, like Boston molasses disaster.
agree with wu ming.
and I would be surprised if aravia would go through the trouble of manufacturing a voice so not his own. his initial attempts as BTD as another personality & temperment were quite transparent. (at least to me)
I’d czech the usernumber at MLW for Jake’s guilt before coming to conclusions.
“The Two Jakes”
Well Nicholson does remind me of an ultimate asshole who has charmed his share.
Anyway-can’t examine much on that issue–mshock has me in IP lockdown–silly girl! other users can examine exactly how dreadful my recent comments were there.
I’m like Lucid … twice over the handlebars, once head first into a tree while sledding, once hitting my head when I dove into a lake and didn’t put my arms out front fast enough. Think I took a header down some subway stairs when drunk after a show in NYC once or twice, though those are fuzzy.
Been lucky, though I’m sure the Boyz at Little Orange Footballs would say it would explain why I’m so politically naive and “crazy insane”.
lucid–I guess with a truly flaming drunkout at age 14, I could never best myself when I became of legal age. I still can’t drink whiskey or scotch-such was the trauma then. In fact, for years after, I could not even think of an opened bottle without dry-heaving.
So are we all heading to Sabrina’s for summer fun on Long Island?
We better have that auction, so all can afford.
Armando loves it when you talk about him. It’s usually why I don’t. Don’t read this, asshole!
About the Saint George = Harry Reid brouhaha: More evidence that the people at dKos are not so slowly going insane. It’s what happens when you stop thinking and just doing what the DLC e-mails tell you to do. Just like those voices in their heads, too…
Full investigations, followed by flights to the Hague funded by the confiscated Bush family fortune. Ah, to dream…
Kevin
I was stuck on a long flight once, was sitting next to a guy working on his PhD in Sociology. He was going to work at a reservation, and was working on a thesis that applied Foucalt’s ideas to the US reservation system. I’ve always wondered how his work turned out.
We could start by making amends for the US Gov’t's failure of fiduciary duty to properly manage and protect the monies held under trust for the people we insisted on treating like children. The Cobell Trust case has finally gotten a court date:
They’ve dragged this case out over a couple of Administrations and several Secretaries of the Interior. Babbitt and Clinton were every bit as shameful under their watch as the fucking Bushies.
Steal, rape, denigrate, steal culture and language … the crimes just keep piling up.
Kevin is right. Vitamin A (attention) is essential for aravia.
but the vagosphere and other non-aligned, don’t go and declare people “dead to me.”
in the abscence of a manifesto…..
that cobell trust case would be beautiful if it ended up forcing the feds to cough up kazillions of dollars to the tribes. the poetic justice alone would be fantastic.
wu ming, that’s so great that your mother made you walk four miles to school. In terms of mothering, that’s Clint Eastwood territory. I can only aspire to those heights.
No kidding – that’s hardassed.
Today I had to deal with my son and his friend (both 6.5 years old) for 8 hours straight, and it was very interesting – they spent the time alternately: 1) building things out of Legos in a cooperative fashion, and 2) battling with each other, either in pretend fights where they were playing roles, or actual physical contact (whacking each other on the head, pulling each other around, etc.). Finally I exploded, “OK! NO MORE HITTING OR PULLING OR WHACKING EACH OTHER!!” I was painfully reminded of John Cleese in Life of Brian: “NOBODY WILL STONE ANYBODY UNTIL I BLOW THIS WHISTLE!
The boys had a great time. I was burnt out.
Well, neither can I, given that I have celiac disease… but I’m a fool for the wine.
SB’s would be fun. I’ve never actually been to East End LI, and even if it wasn’t for a gig, I’d love to see [from rumor, the 'light is divine']. I must warn you all though. I’m 34, I smoke & I’m a part time lush. None of that means that I’m not quite polite in my bad habits, but… well, hey, I’m an honest sort.
While he might be an asshole, I wouldn’t quite hold him to the flame like I would Prince Avaria. After all, he is an icon, who has proved to be a decent actor over the years. While I don’t excuse him of being the sexist prick he is in his personal life I’d take 1 performances of Chinatown over 200 bleating diaries where a serial abuser pretends to be a feminist.
He also has Brando’s 125 million dollar (as of a few years ago, in value) hilltop.
Miss D: So are we all heading to Sabrina’s for summer fun on Long Island?
We better have that auction, so all can afford.
I’m up for that.
that wasn’t even the hardest-assed thing she did either. that would be the time when i got caught shoplifting gum (well, actually my friend did it, i was a bystander, altho i did eat the gum) at age 5, and she not only made us go back to the store owner and return the gum and apologize, she called a (family friend) cop to show up and explain why stealing hurt nice people like the shop owner (also a family friend).
suffice to say i have not stolen anything since.
lucid-all us smokers have to admit our vice before proferring in-person contact with others. de riguer.
we promise to go outside and assemble our own ashtrays.
oh, and I do take your point over aravia v. nicholson.
lucid – yes, exactly. Nicholson is wildly talented and has accomplished a lot in his career. Which differentiates him from Armando. I have no idea what Nicholson is like in his private life, but at least he’s not nattering around the internet pretending he’s some kind of feminist.
Lucid, you can smoke here – besides, in case there are people who don’t like it, the doors are always open in the summer so smokers can wander around the property without upsetting anyone else. It’s only a two hour bus-ride from NYC, maybe a little more. Can’t believe you’ve never been out here, it really is beautiful in the summer (Shelter Island, btw, not the Hamptons).
We can drink, smoke, listen to music (hey, Lucid bring the band lol) swim, while planning for Yrly Vags!
Sv and Miss D, an auction sounds like a good idea – we could write a book maybe, well, a pamphlet probably since we don’t have much time.
How about: ‘Begone! How to get banned from three or more liberal blogs – confessions of famous serial blog-wreckers’ – Catnip could write a few chapters on that subject! Lol.
Or ‘Advice to female bloggers: Never order a delivery of cat-food without first asking commenters on your blog for permission. To find out why, buy this book’
Re Armando, Kevin, you’re probably right, outofwater also. I do love kids, btw, and Jack Nicholson – don’t know what he’s like in rl, but he’s a great actor –
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Mitm, that article on Alaskan and Native American women is truly disturbing.
Miss D – smokers code… Be polite and hold your fucking toung when wome ‘nice hearted’ person reminds you that you’re killing yourself. I mean should I call you out for your consumption of non-olive vegetable oils? Should I shake my finger at you every time you give that crap to your kids? [Which is incidentally responsible for their diabetes?]
Don’t get me started. I don’t want to be a smoker anymore, but I am now & the hypocracy of the mainstream health industry pisses me off enough to want to continue for spite.
I love stories like this – I really do believe there is life on other planets, so this is really exciting, at least I think so:
Scientists Find Most Earthlike Planet
Lol, Lucid, I couldn’t agree more re people lecturing others on their supposed bad habits. It makes me want to put a sign up ‘smokers welcome’ – maybe it’s just a reaction to the demonization of smokers now, which I suspect is headed towards more draconian laws just like the drug laws. I’d rather risk the results of smoking, marijuana or anything else, than be subjected to any more assaults on our freedom.
True, it would be better not to smoke, drink, do drugs, eat sugar products, drive cars, fly etc. but life is short no matter what we do, I think more people are sick from tension in their lives than anything else. But that’s just my opinion.
I realize the fear factor has been very successful and most people probably disagree with me.
Ever read ‘Discipline and Punish’? It’s not a far cry. Foucault subtitled it the ‘Birth of the Modern Soul’. It was a book about how prisons were envisioned from Bentham on and their relationship to the idea of modern subjectivity. It’s one of the most profound books I’ve ever read – and, though not specifically, it painfully describes this system in a way that resonates with our reservation system.
Hey – he’s a great read too. You can put him away in a night or so because he’s a phenomenal writer – you can’t put it down.
High praise for ‘Discipline and Punish’ – seriously, must read, so many implicatons.
Don’t miss this exchange in the other thread where Meteor Blades’ bullshit is exposed.
He’s a silly, silly man.
SB – I’m a sci-fi nut. Honestly, my biggest fantasy – first contact. I would die happy tomorrow, if we had confirmed contact from aliens. That, like no selfless activist from time past, would finally force people to think beyond sheltered lives. That would demand universality.
That would demand universality. – Lucid
Which is why the idea of aliens, any sort of extra-terrestrial travel, thought travel, etc., (whatever one believes) is so slammed by The State.
And SV (#100) and others – read mine immediately above that link. He hasn’t, and won’t respond to that, because he casts aspersion of jingoism and racism within a limited frame that allows him to cry foul, when he see’s fit. It sadly displays no historical understanding of what nationalism means, or racism for that matter.
Well mcat… I am a Kantian after all.
I believe first & foremost that we are the same. We despite are difference, are equal. The institutions that divide us only serve economic forces that subject us. We haven’t evolved much from our beginnings, despite the oucry of the multitude throughout our history as homo sapiens.
We still live within aristocracy.
lucid – he hasn’t even seen the film, nor has he read the review by Kael which he (mis)quotes. He’s simply Googling and pulling quotes that seem to be appropriate.
He’s a gigantic fake. And a boring one, too.
neither gin nor carrot cake.
i suspect i know what’s lies behind that. that communion wafer was really blotter acid.
Lucid, then you must be thrilled with that article – I used to believe we all originally came from Mars and were very technologically advanced, but probably destroyed the atmosphere causing massive death and destruction but that some of the extremely wealthy escaped to this planet, but had to start all over again. Lol, most of my friends think I’m a little crazy, but who knows?
Btw, maybe you know some of these NY ‘kossacks’ (hate that word). A diary of a meet-up in NYC tonight. I recognize some of the names, Pinche Tejano, NYbri eg and a few others. Lots of photos –
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/24/231920/081
We still live within aristocracy. – lucid
precisely! I absolutely agree…
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SV
he has not seen the film?
Good lord. I have not seen it for 15 years or so, and cannot rmember all parts but i have seen it three times.. over the years.
I closed the last thread.
Yes, I know some of them. I’m on the list & have gone to a number of the NYC thingies. I’m in a different demographic. There are a lot of good people there – most of the originals have also fallen away – in particular the original organizer, a NY single Mom, ardent feminist.
Many of them are also exactly what you would expect – pedant centrist men more concerned about their middle class life than what actually might be going on in the world.
Communion by Whitley Striber I found a believable intelligent and scary as hell account of being periodically studied by alien life forms over long spans of the author’s life. Freaked me out. Also a film starring Christopher Walken.
jam.fuse…
I remember the Walken film of the book. Walken is an actor I so enjoy. NO matter what he is in.
#107 The other theory being the souls of the dead Martians reincarnated into life forms on Earth after the destruction of the planet.
Marisa, I love Walken also –
jam.fuse, is there really such a theory? I thought it was just my own wild imagination –
Lucid, you’re probably right, going by what some of those present there post on DK, I agree that they are not exactly the revolutionary types that I believe the country is in dire need of right now.
Love Walken, too. Especially in The Deer Hunter.
communion wafer as blotter acid–if only!