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In a world of fake benchmarks… ;) 25 April 2007

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rather a sweet one:

Coming Soon… she said breathlessly. 20 April 2006

Posted by marisacat in Announce, Uncategorized

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“M. Chat” appeared in several places in the Montparnasse railway station in Paris, this one was on a construction site wood palisade on quai number 1.

It went away once the works were completed….

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I nearly forgot… tho I thought of it at the beginning of April… Kind of amazed I am still here…

Thank you to everyone who comments here and who reads… 8)

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1. Miss Devore - 25 April 2007

Bon anniversaire?

2. Miss Devore - 25 April 2007

from CNN:

“TOKYO, Japan (AP) — Japan’s abhorrent practice of enslaving women to provide sex for its troops in World War II has a little-known sequel: After its surrender — with tacit approval from the U.S. occupation authorities — Japan set up a similar “comfort women” system for American GIs.

An Associated Press review of historical documents and records — some never before translated into English — shows American authorities permitted the official brothel system to operate despite internal reports that women were being coerced into prostitution. The Americans also had full knowledge by then of Japan’s atrocious treatment of women in countries across Asia that it conquered during the war.

Tens of thousands of women were employed to provide cheap sex to U.S. troops until the spring of 1946, when Gen. Douglas MacArthur shut the brothels down.

The documents show the brothels were rushed into operation as American forces poured into Japan beginning in August 1945.”

3. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

First!! lol, had to do that, because if you do it at DK, kos will come out of hiding and troll-rate you. And those poor, beaten down kossacks ‘understand’ why he has to do it!!

And thank you, marisacat – I’m not amazed you’re still here. I lurked here for a while before DD’s rabid, cry-baby, anti-woman diary finally made me decide that dk was not worth wasting valuable time on –

I love that cat – silly question, but what inspired it? Do you know?

4. marisacat - 25 April 2007

Last I read they remain resistant to acknowledging and apologising. The better known instance I mean…

Personally I think Germany and Japan know us the best.

IF there were ever to be (and thre will not be, they all get off, always been my opinion) a war crimes trial of the USA leadership, I would want the Germans to run it.

Turn about is fair play. If painful.

And i jsut read again that the Japanese want another look at their post war constitution, the part prohibiting militarisation and war making… surely there is some way they play in the New Global War, they say…. What the hell, let them.

5. marisacat - 25 April 2007

SB

that cat is appearing all over, thru Europe and into Eastern Europe, former Iron Curtain countries, Soviet satellites and so on… and now in S America and also in NYC too I think.

I have a link somwhere about the image. fascinating in a way… will find it and put the link up…

6. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

Oh well, so I wasn’t first – lol!

Miss D, reading that made me feel sick – I cannot imagine what those women went through. I have read reports that are equally stomach-turning about the female members of the current military in Iraq. A huge % of them say they have been raped by male US troops. They are fearful of going to the bathroom at night especially. Yet, despite these reports, nothing much is done about it.

7. liberalcatnip - 25 April 2007

From the last thread (hi VAGs!):

hey-remember when catnip promised to make presents out of wool? I think she should knit/crochet the Marisacat welcome mat, where the males leave their genitals at the door. I believe it would fetch the most at a vagosphere auction.

I’ll get right on that…as soon as I can find some wool…and a crochet hook…and my sanity (that’s still packed in a box somewhere around here too.)

mcat,
Is it your blogiversary (or whatever the kids are calling it these days)?

8. marisacat - 25 April 2007

catnip,

you can do what I threatened to do once, paint the boxes to match the room… I hate packing AND unpacking.

Link on M Chat graffiti. Down a little bit on the page, pics of the yellow cat begin to appear…

9. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

From the previous thread, ms xeno said:

So their hostility toward the war vet and his sons is basic: He is a nobody, behaving like a somebody whose opinion matters. Whereas the “reality based” Kozzies know that an opinion has no validity unless it is first sanitized for your protection and waved through by some cardboard-hearted Blue hack in a thousand dollar suit.

Schooled in numb obedience and eager to force feed it all over, they have no patience for anyone who has a taste for something else.

Thanks ms xeno, I hadn’t thought of it that way, but you have a way of looking at things that makes a lot of sense. I am not sure whether or not they even know anything about the diarist, although it seems at least one of them, Pager, is familiar with him.

I think you’re right though, it wouldn’t matter to them that he has two sons in the wars, or that he himself is a veteran. And yes, I do think they want their own imperial president. And if Hillary is the nominee, they will have one.

I wish I had seen the diary before it slipped off the list. He is one of the few I look for because of his sons. I check for his posts to see if they are still okay. I was really horrified when I saw what happened in that diary. He never bothers anyone – writing his diaries is therapeutic for him, I think. They are cruel, heartless people, totally devoid of any kind of compassion.

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Marisacat, I read that diary you linked to from 2004. I noticed that two familiar names were mentioned as the most ‘cruel’, DHinMi and Jiacinto – no surprise there! The other two I am not familiar with. Yours and Marie’s posts were excellent. Terri seems like a wonderful person. Since I’ve not seen her around, I assume she simply left, or was banned as so many others have been.

DHinMi and his cohorts are weak, scared little men (as are the women who protect and defend them). I laugh when I think of how they both run when confronted directly. They are boringly easy to take down. It must be painful to have such a weak ego that the only way you can make yourself feel powerful is to try to bully others. And they don’t even do that very well, since most people simply despise and laugh at them.

It’s appalling to me that DHinMi worked for any politician in the Dem Party. It certainly would affect my support for a candidate who would hire such a despicable individual.

10. liberalcatnip - 25 April 2007

“Make cats, not war” lol

Yes, camoflauge paint would make the boxes blend in but that wouldn’t stop me from tripping over them though. I was so tired earlier today that when I sneezed while putting on my shoes I almost fell backwards into a closet. (You had to be there).

So much going on this week in DC yet, as usual, nothing much at all really. So much blustering. So little substance. No action. Symbolism to keep the donors happy, I guess.

Did you catch Bill Moyer’s PBS special about the media and the war? I was so angry…took me an hour to calm down. It’s not like I learned anything new. It was just so incredibly frustrating to revisit the horrendous incompetence of the American media during that time – not that they’ve actually atoned since then… There are so few “journalists” who even deserve that designation. War & power scribes. That’s what most of them are.

11. lucidculture - 25 April 2007

happy blogoversary mcat!

I’m thankful you’re here. This blog usually makes my day in one way or another. :)

12. marisacat - 25 April 2007

LOL some would say it is my “douchebaggery” anniversary.

And to think there is a tag for that category… LOL.

Really, they all went insane on their tiny island.

8)

13. liberalcatnip - 26 April 2007

some would say it is my “douchebaggery” anniversary.

That won’t fit on the little pillow I crocheted for you.

14. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 April 2007

Joyce arthur rocks. and UNLIKE mr boohooman who has earned a spot today on the shité listé, she once mentioned me! Bayprairie.

Well, first, I’m not surprised that Joyce Arthur would mention you, Bayprairie. Or anyone else for that matter.

In poor Bhhm’s defense I think the people he mentioned were those of us who have been talking about him behind his back, and his fruitless and disastrous search for size 10 1/2 ‘clitlicker shoes’! Lol!

I would list all of the awesome commenters here but am afraid I might leave someone out, (a few who don’t post every day, eg) so I’ll just say that imo, there is not one who posts here who is not worth reading. Maybe it is because the best thinkers and writers gravitate to blogs where their creativity and insights are not stifled by fuddy-duddy rules and ignorant troll kops.

15. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 April 2007

Happy Anniversary!!!

popped this at the end of the last thread, but that was kinda dumb, so I’m just going to repeat here, re: women in movies/tv, that one of the reasons I love Joss Whedon’s stuff is he writes so many strong, smart women who kick ass themselves, and not just in service of some man’s ego.

Off to work … have a good day everyone.

16. AlanSmithee - 26 April 2007

Anniversaire Heureux, Mchat!

17. marisacat - 26 April 2007

saw this at the LAT on the bees colony collapse…

18. supervixen - 26 April 2007

J’adore M. Chat!

Felicitations (both feline and human) on your anniversary, MCat. Your salon is wonderful!

More silliness from the “Feminisms” contingent at Clockwork Orange:

The only Supreme Court Justice in U.S. history who ever was pregnant or gave birth was Sandra Day O’Connor. She had an effect when she was a part of the U.S. Supreme Court.

How stupid does someone have to be to fail to notice Ruth Bader Ginsburg?

Ruth Ginsburg attended Harvard at a difficult time. In the era of harsh grillings by professors using the Socratic method, Ruth Ginsburg and her fellow women students found the school extremely hostile. At one point, Dean Erwin Griswold asked the women of the class what it felt like to occupy places that could have gone to deserving men. Still, Ginsburg overcame the derision and excelled academically. She received high grades and earned a position with the law review. Crisis struck when Martin developed testicular cancer and required extensive treatment with radiation and surgery. Ginsburg attended to her preschool daughter and her ill husband while maintaining her studies. She attended class for her husband and typed his papers as he dictated every word. After a difficult struggle, Martin recovered. He graduated from law school and accepted a position in a New York law firm. Ruth Ginsburg transferred from Harvard to Columbia Law School to continue her study. She made law review, becoming the first woman to achieve the honored position at two major schools. After a year at Columbia, Ginsburg graduated at the top of her class.

The years following her graduation from law school were spent in academic endeavors. Ginsburg worked for a few years as a research associate at Columbia Law School before joining the faculty at Rutgers University Law School in 1963. Ginsburg worked during this time to advance several feminist causes. While at Rutgers, she battled for maternity leave rights for schoolteachers in New Jersey. She also began an active participation in the American Civil Liberties Union. In 1972, Ginsburg became the first woman hired with tenure at Columbia Law School. She also became the first director of the ACLU’s Women’s Rights Project that same year.

And in a diary purporting to “analyze the language” of the SCOTUS decision – not even a mention of her dissent, in which she eloquently reaffirmed what the issue of reproductive rights is all about? She wrote:

As Casey comprehended, at stake in cases challenging abortion restrictions is a woman’s “control over her [own] destiny.” 505 U. S., at 869 (plurality opinion). See also id., at 852 (majority opinion). “There was a time, not so long ago,” when women were “regarded as the center of home and family life, with attendant special responsibilities that precluded full and independent legal status under the Constitution.” Id., at 896–897 (quoting Hoyt v. Florida, 368 U. S. 57, 62 (1961) ). Those views, this Court made clear in Casey, “are no longer consistent with our understanding of the family, the individual, or the Constitution.” 505 U. S., at 897. Women, it is now acknowledged, have the talent, capacity, and right “to participate equally in the economic and social life of the Nation.” Id., at 856. Their ability to realize their full potential, the Court recognized, is intimately connected to “their ability to control their reproductive lives.” Ibid. Thus, legal challenges to undue restrictions on abortion procedures do not seek to vindicate some generalized notion of privacy; rather, they center on a woman’s autonomy to determine her life’s course, and thus to enjoy equal citizenship stature.

I wrote a Supervixens diary last year about the Invisible Women phenomenon. Looks like it’s going strong over at DKos.

19. marisacat - 26 April 2007

I think as the party signals its clear abandonment, frankly iwth utter glee, of any support however wavering of womens rights (Reid as leader followed by Casey as candidate did it! Recruiting hard core pro lifers is another!) sites like Dkos are emboldened to shed the mask.

I finally did read that slop of nothing that Meteor quoted but refused to link to here. IMO it was very bad. [Quite aside from the bad netiquette of quoting and refusing to link.]

The least, most muddled thing that he could sqeeze out.

Shite in other words.

20. marisacat - 26 April 2007

here is the link.

21. jam.fuse - 26 April 2007

QOC

IF there were ever to be (and th[ere] will not be, they all get off, always been my opinion) a war crimes trial of the USA leadership, I would want the Germans to run it.

Reminded me of a passage from The Beast Reawakens by Martin A. Lee 1997

In September, 1945… Nuremberg… twelve of the top leaders of the Third Reich were condemned to death; seven other defendants received prison sentences, and three were acquitted. The Nuremberg verdicts reinforced what most Americans believed — that World War [Two] was a good fight for a noble cause and those who had commited heinous acts would get the punishment they deserved. Intrinsic to America’s sense of identity was the comforting myth that the United States wholeheartedly opposed everything the Nazis stood for.

: : :

The Allies had originally planned on holding a second tribunal at Nuremberg that would have focused on crimes by German industrialists, but the United States abruptly cancelled the proceedings. According to U. S. War Department chief, Robert Patterson, American officials were not going to let the Russians cross-examine bankers and industrialists “in view of the many connections between the German and American economies before the war.” Rather than participating in potentially embarassing international prosecutions, the United States opted to try German business leaders and other accused war criminals separately in the American zone of occupation. Before long, however, these legal proceedings also came to an abrupt halt.

Got to finish that book one of these years, s’about how fascism survived the big one (WWII) and is getting its second wind and all.

22. supervixen - 26 April 2007

Yes, Mcat, that “Partial Truth Abortion” diary is utter bullshit. He spends several paragraphs blithering about “framing” and says nothing himself about the ruling. Must be cautious! Mention “pro-choice” views as little as possible, preferably not at all! Best not to even touch it with a 10-foot pole! I’m sure a directive went out to all FPers about this.

23. marisacat - 26 April 2007

That is why the big Blahg lie that “the conservative movement is in collapse” is so dangerous. no matter where they are, the fascist strain never goes away. It just waits.

About three years ago, before 04 election iirc, Jimmy Carter had an editorial about how very bad for the world the ascendancy of the hard right in the US had been, that the administration had influenced world wide increase in harsh repressive legislation. And that we might hope for an election reversal (LOL not any time soon imo) but that those laws would persist thrrout the world.

And in Europe ugh Merkel is much more conservative, imo, that is shown to the public, we likely get Sarkozy in France (and Segolene is no winner as contrast) ugh. Chretien in Canada had his draw backs but he was far more outspoken about Bush than either of his two successors.. and so on. There is a lot of soft talk that with Sarkozy little will change. ugh I think it will be far more amenable to Bush than Chirac, for all his faults ever was…

And frankly Hillary is pretty m uch a covert winger imo.

Sooo screwed.

24. marisacat - 26 April 2007

SV…

LOL the minute I read it, very clear why he did not link to it.

Such bullshit.

And glaring as well, as she touts herself as a criminal def atty, is in CO with Dr Hern an abortion doc who is VERY outspoken (but will not back or vote for pro life Dems) was TL sitting out the ruling but for one post (from “Tia Jeralyn”, I mean and the 4 from Armando were useless as well) that dealt with, get ready!! the Rudy reaction.

Sooo useful!

NOTHING abut the legal aspect of criminalising a medical procedure nor, if what I read is right, the messy language about criminalising. Lots of squishy language.

Bullshiters, all of them. They all want lunch (again or a first invite) in Harlem… ;)

25. marisacat - 26 April 2007

Gee. talk about nuanced:

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

TOP U.S. COMMANDER IN IRAQ PREDICTS U.S. EFFORT THERE COULD GET HARDER BEFORE IT GETS BETTER, SAYING CONDITIONS ARE ‘EXCEEDINGLY COMPLEX’

http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396

uh… how many years til we call it “over”.

26. jam.fuse - 26 April 2007

So Owl wrote . . . and this is what he wrote:

HIPY PAPY BTHUTHDTH THUTHDA
BTHUTHDY.

Pooh looked on admiringly.

“I’m just saying ‘A Happy Birthday’,” said Owl carelessly.
“It’s a nice long one,” said Pooh, very much impressed by it.

27. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 April 2007

Not much enthusiasm for the award to Jerome Armstrong even on DK. But it’s not advisable to criticize Rahm over there:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/25/14855/3071

Recommended by:Ray Radlein, Newsie8200, Inland, Geekesque, DemocraticLuntz, Mia Dolan, willb48, Dave Montoya

and fairly stupid. His judgment isn’t perfect but he’s done a damn lot to build the Democratic party and while informed, sensible criticism of him is certainly possible, most of what I see around here is ill-informed, knee-jerk, and frankly kind of embarrassing.

by MissLaura on Wed Apr 25, 2007 at 11:31:46 AM PDT

Lol – so tedious. She is such a know-it-all. If only we were all so informed. These poor DLC supporters, Hunter et al, always so tired, so worn-out having to deal with idiotic voters daring to have opinions. Sadly it’s only going to worse for them. It makes me laugh how they take credit for everything when the fact is they influenced no one.

The Bush administration can take full credit for the Democratic majority in Nov. Now that that is accomplished, kossacks can bleat and complain all they want, voters will once again decide whether their strategy is working when 2008 comes around. And of course there is the fact that the vast majority of voters never heard of these operators or their blog. Amazing that they were able to decide who to vote for without the ‘guidance’ of weary kossacks.

I give full credit to dk for one thing, they revealed to me that those who represent the Dems are people I do not want making a single decision for me or anyone else I care about. Their disgusting attitude towards people who deeply care about their country is a complete turn-off and will certainly influence, negatively, people who have observed that site for any length of time. Iow, MzzzL and her cohorts are extremely bad for the Democratic Party, something I intend to mention to my Reps and their staff when I call them.

28. BooHooHooMan - 26 April 2007

Dancing Over The Dead

Through a mole in the State Department ,(perfectly legal, the mole was a little creature I’ve necessarily befriended while talking to myself and working in the yard) – anyways, I obtained an advance copy of Sec of State Rice letter to Henry Waxman regarding the Chairman’s Oversight and Government Reform Committee subpoenae of Rice into the Administrations handling of Pre War Intelligence. The Secretary avoided any of the customary pleasantries.

Immediately after Dear Chairman Waxman the Secretary of State wrote.

No-no, no, no, no, no-no-no, no, no-no, no, no-no

Strangely, the Secretary followed the opening salvo with

Nobody can do the (Shing-a-ling) like I do
Nobody can do the (Skate) like I do
Nobody can do (Boogaloo) like I do
Nobody can do (Philly) like I do

Well, don’t you know
I’m gonna skate right through
Ain’t nobody do it but me
Nobody but me (nobody but me)…

And so forth, Dancing Over the Dead.

Then , after an [ Instrumental Interlude ] , she reiterated her points, added an “Ooooooh, yeah” and four more “nobodys”. She of course is lying about the nobody part. They ALL do it: the shimmy, the skate, etc. It appears to be a White House form letter that has been cc: ‘d throughout the Administration.

The Administration claimed through General David Petraeus yesterday that there was progress in Iraq, that sectarian killings were down. Petraus was also heard singing to Congress that

No bodies were blowin up
like they doood
No bodies were piling up
like they doood….

They are All Dancing Over the Dead. Like the comfy classes during Viet Nam, Bush yesterday. Rove in Black Tie some weeks back. The Media. Slow walking Democrats. All Dancing Over the Dead.

29. marisacat - 26 April 2007

Do we then get a chorus of Hillary, Obama and Edwards doing the McCain ompromptu…

Bomb bomb bomb Iran (repeat)

30. Miss Devore - 26 April 2007

BHHM–your in big trouble from bayprarie. You’ll be dancing, too.

31. BooHooHooMan - 26 April 2007

mcat- Goldwater Gal Hill went to Teen Time wearing a Nuclear Belt, No doubt.
Ah, the Good ole Days, A nation led by the emotionally stunted, reworking their personal shit from the sixties.. I find Hillary with [Southern] drawal absolutely creepy. The other two guys could share the same suit on alternating Saturday Nights.

32. marisacat - 26 April 2007

ugh. Selma showdown was awful. Talk about pols on triscuit.

33. liberalcatnip - 26 April 2007

You know, when I saw Peter Beinart making a complete ass out of himself on Bill Moyer’s special last nite (as noted by Sirota over at the Orange Place), my mind kept flashing to Beinart’s endorsement of kos’s book that was at the top of the FP for so long and I was thinking, “you’re proud to have that wanker endorsing your book, kos?”. The man is a shill – a flipping embarassment.

Then again, Chevron’s up there now, so…

Anyway, in the comments section to Sirota’s diary comes this exchange:

I think only losing audience will (19+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
Sharoney, alyosha, kriser, Geonomist, delphine, lcrp, Brooke In Seattle, ratzo, leo joad, Gorette, blueoasis, lams712, One Pissed Off Liberal, Susan Something, drmah, jayden, pioneer111, Rob Cole, dragoneyes

As they lose more and more viewers to the web then and only then will they change. As the internet grows eventually some of the bigger blogs will get enough money to hire “real” reporters. As these guys start to get real “scoops” they will further degrade the MSM. Look at what we already are doing on shoe string budgets!

-1.63/ -1.49 “Speaking truth to power”

by dopper0189 on Thu Apr 26, 2007 at 07:09:10 AM PDT

[ Parent ]

*
not if they buy us out(12+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
Sharoney, northsylvania, opinionated, lcrp, Black Max, smkngman, sbdenmon, Naniboujou, blueoasis, One Pissed Off Liberal, Susan Something, pioneer111

by putting restrictions on the ‘tubes and shutting down political speech.

Truth. Justice. Freedom
ePluribus Media

by Timroff on Thu Apr 26, 2007 at 07:11:13 AM PDT

[ Parent ]
o
“they” (2+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
opinionated, One Pissed Off Liberal

being Timmeh and Co’s corporate overlords…

Truth. Justice. Freedom
ePluribus Media

by Timroff on Thu Apr 26, 2007 at 07:12:02 AM PDT

Tsk, tsk…why worry about the big corporations when kos is already censoring political speech on his site with the help of his minions? (He has his own corporate entity already, in case some people there missed that fact).

34. AlanSmithee - 26 April 2007

More M Chat!. It’s a world spanning phenom!

35. BooHooHooMan - 26 April 2007

To Bayprarie: How do I begin an apology that begins with OHHHH SHIT!

D’oh!
D’oh!
Double WTF D’oh!

I’m now wondering if I’ve presented academic work wherein I “forgot” to mention Bayprarie. I’m totally sorry. I swear to God, though, I hadn’t read the end of that thread before I posted my piece above, itself a derivation of a well known theme , one that resonates with me, on the 1960’s. I now feel trapped in a Seinfeld episode or some such. Reflecting on your Your work, it is of course much more to the core, as the direction of current events is designed to effectively preserve the status quo from the 1860’s .

Christ I’m wondering if I’ve “inadvertantly” signed for a mortgage, charge card, etc as “Bayprarie.”

36. marisacat - 26 April 2007

I enjoyed the Moyer but I thought he was too soft. Still, it showed how bankrupt we are as a nation but people like Isaacson were let off too lightly.

Beinart is a just a joke. Idiot. I don’t think the issue of TNR as a handmaiden to the war was really made. ugh but then I think only people who already knew most if not all of whatwas presented were watching. Not usre how much advertising the Moyers show got…

I wish that Moyers had shown the day that Michael Wolff (then wtih NY Magazine) caused a sensation at the daily pressers in Doha. For a straightforward but oppositional question about (iirc) HOW the infomration is let out to media from the war theatre…

And his articles in NY mag about the bottom line, media also went along in the build up, as there was legislation coming up on the ownership caps for big print media. They fell in line with the war, big time and got the legislation to spread their wings a bit more. $$$$

One hand washes the other.

37. earth to meg - 26 April 2007

“It’s appalling to me that DHinMi worked for any politician in the Dem Party. It certainly would affect my support for a candidate who would hire such a despicable individual”

Sabrina, I agree. These employers of DHinMI, Luscious Vagina, and the rest of them are either completely unaware of the “lives” these assholes lead on the internets, or they condone it. DHinMI is the chief of staff for Hodes from New Hampshire or Vermont? Who would allow their chief of staff to behave that way?! Says a lot about the character of these employers.

38. BooHooHooMan - 26 April 2007

I think my triple d’oh! apology with explanation to Bayprairie is stuck in spam. (missed BP, hadn’t read end of thread, etc.) I explicitly acknowledge my assholery , but insist I didn’t sign mortgage in baypraries name. I hope what I wrote earlier surfaces.

39. lucidculture - 26 April 2007

American officials were not going to let the Russians cross-examine bankers and industrialists “in view of the many connections between the German and American economies before the war.”

Not just before the war – during the war. Assets of various companies owned by Herbert Walker & Prescott Bush were siezed by the federal government in 1942 under the trading with the enemy act. If I remember correctly the Harriman’s were somehow involved too – not to mention that nazi Ford.

The industrialists in this county were divided over WWII – in the end they saw more economic opportunity picking up the pieces of a devastated Europe, so they supported entry on behalf of the Allied powers. We didn’t enter until it was clear that Germany had bitten off more than it could chew waging war on so many fronts. We wanted to make sure we were on the winning side so we could take our position as the ‘liberator’ of the world.

40. wu ming - 26 April 2007

i’m cuious about your take on segolene royal, marisa. it’s pretty hard to get anything substantive about the race in the english press about the race in general, but sarkozy looks like bad news.

41. Miss Devore - 26 April 2007

BHHM–still, you have to dance, and temporarily be referred to as Mr. BooHooHooJangles. (you did get your cleatlickers, no?)

42. bayprairie - 26 April 2007

well mr booHoojangles, i guess i won’t yank your whisker.

43. BooHooHooMan - 26 April 2007

In addtion to inadvertantly piggy backing off of baybaries more prescient take on the real sixties we’re returning to , I suppose I might as well take credit for all things chippendale – the furniture, cartoon characters , and dance troupe. Believe me, I recommend the furniture and the cartoon only.

44. BooHooHooMan - 26 April 2007

fuck, another comment stuck in spam, now its the chaps and castinets.

45. BooHooHooMan - 26 April 2007

fuck another comment stuck in spam, now its the chaps and castanets

46. BooHooHooMan - 26 April 2007

I‘m sorry bayprarie. Boo sincerely apologizing though dancing ludicrously

I missed you in the last thread.

workout breathing, castanets aclacking

You work hits the core where the status quo resides, the 1860’s

chaps too revealing

47. BooHooHooMan - 26 April 2007

Not a peep Devore Boo in futile preemptive admonition, followed byan anxiety born of knowing what’s coming

48. JJB - 26 April 2007

After 4 years of slaughter, someone finally admits what was perfectly obvious to anyone with a cursory knowledge of imperialistic wars of choice:

Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said Thursday that conditions in Iraq may get harder before they get easier and will require ”an enormous commitment” over time by the United States.

Speaking as the Senate debated veto-threatened legislation to start bringing home U.S. forces in October, Petraeus called the war there ”the most complex and challenging I have ever seen.”

The four-star general, named by President Bush to oversee the recent buildup of American forces, cited some progress in the two months since the troop increase began. Still, he said, ”there is vastly more work to be done across the board. … We are just getting started with the new effort.”. . . [H]is comments made it clear that his war plan did not include a significant reduction of U.S. forces anytime soon.

”This effort may get harder before it gets easier,” Petraeus told reporters at a Pentagon briefing, depicting the situation as ”exceedingly complex and very tough.”

He said that the increasing use of roadside bombs and suicide attacks, plus the greater concentration of U.S. troops among the population, has ”led to greater U.S. losses” as well as increased Iraqi military casualties.

Asked how many troops he thought would have to remain in Iraq — and for how long — to finish the job, Petraeus said, ”I wouldn’t try to truly anticipate what level might be some years down the road.” However, he noted historical precedents to long U.S. peacekeeping missions.

”It is an endeavor that clearly is going to require enormous commitment and commitment over time, but beyond that time I don’t want to get into try to postulate how many brigades or when we would start to do something,” he said.

Petraeus said matters were made worse by ”exceedingly unhelpful activities by Iran and Syria, especially those by Iran.”

Asked whether senior officials in the Iranian government were sanctioning sending weapons and technology to insurgents in Iraq, the U.S. general said it was hard to say. ”We do not have a direct link of Iranian involvement,” in attacks, he said.

Petraeus also said that, while the fledgling Iraqi government is often billed as a unity government among Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds, it actually is not.

”It is not a government of national unity. Rather, it is one comprised of political leaders from different parties that often default to narrow agendas and a zero-sum approach to legislation,” the general said.

He said that was one reason why progress has been so slow on deciding how to divide up oil revenues and pass budget and emergency powers laws.

Despite the disappointing pace, Petraeus said he believes that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and other leaders ”are committed to achieving more in this area in the months ahead.”

Petraeus cited slowly improving conditions in turbulent Anbar province in western Iraq, noting it had been ”assessed as lost six months ago.”

He said the increased U.S. presence in various outposts has enabled Iraqis ”to stitch together the fabric of society that was so torn.”

But he said improvements, such as the reopening of shops and the return by some residents to their homes, are ”often eclipsed by sensational attacks that overshadow our daily accomplishments.”

”Iraq is in fact the central front of al-Qaida’s global campaign,” he said. ”Al-Qaida-Iraq remains a formidable foe with considerable resilience and a capability to produce horrific attacks.”

”This group’s activities must be significantly disrupted at the least for the new Iraq to succeed,” he added. ”The key to success is disrupting their attacks.”

There is so much in that to take issue with, particularly that characterization of our invasion/occupation as a “peacekeeping mission.” As usual, we are said to be doing all these boring but important little things like making areas safe for shops to reopen and residents to return (gee, I wonder why they left in the first place?) that get lost in all those sensational suicide bombings, etc., dastardly countries like Red China and the USSR (whoops, make that Iran and Syria) are preventing us from achieving success, and while the regime we are propping up is completely disfunctional and divided against itself, it’s leader, Diem (whoops again, make that Thieu, uhh, whoops cubed, that should be al-Maliki) is nonetheless a swell guy dedicated to democracy, peace, free ice-cream on demand, and wiping out tooth decay, so we should continue pouring money down the drain that is his government. Ironic that this clone of the late, unlamented Gen. Westmoreland should deliver this ludicrous spiel so soon after the death of David Halberstam, who made his reputation skewering the Five O’Clock Follies performed daily in Saigon more than 4 decades ago.

One last quote that will ring many a bell among those condemned to repeat a past they remember all too well:

”Iraq is in fact the central front of al-Qaida’s global campaign,” he said. ”Al-Qaida-Iraq remains a formidable foe with considerable resilience and a capability to produce horrific attacks.”

”This group’s activities must be significantly disrupted at the least for the new Iraq to succeed,” he added. ”The key to success is disrupting their attacks.”

So just as it was essential to destroy Vietnam in order to defeat the International Communist Conspiracy, we must now destroy Iraq in order to defeat the Inter-Nation al-Qaida Conspiracy, which has set itself up in easily identified subsidiary branches. Nowhere does Petraeus mention where we’re going to get the soldiers to undertake this “enormous commitment and commitment over time.” I’ve got a pretty good idea of how it will be done though, and yet again give thanks that I was able to fill out a few forms and pass my dual-nationality on to my son.

49. BooHooHooMan - 26 April 2007

But hey – we’re back!

In an ams race with the Russians that is.

Putin Suspends compliance with the CFE. No worries though – Condi will carry the Bolshoi. We can’t seem to teach the Russians anything about Foreign Affairs… maybe they’ll follow our lead in music and dance…

50. marisacat - 26 April 2007

SORRY!

I just woke up and htere were 6 in moderation…

sorry for the delay…

51. missdevore - 26 April 2007

BHHM–I heard condi referred to Russia as the Soviet Union.

(and yes, you are suppose to wear the chaps OVER a pair of pants.)

Riverbend is leaving Baghdad….

IED discovered near a woman’s clinic (which provides abortion services) in Austin, TX.

52. marisacat - 26 April 2007

Br-r-r-r-r-eaking!

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

SENATE PASSES IRAQ FUNDING AND TROOP WITHDRAWAL BILL BY A VOTE OF 51-46; BUSH VETO EXPECTED

http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396

53. marisacat - 26 April 2007

wu ming at #40…

seems like a mess to me. She appears more or less empty. And many articles in the US press gloss over how she rose to the run (her long time companion is head of the party, they have 4 children together). It seems to be collapsing, more or less for months. Lots of very stupid comments if off script. I caught, on Antenne 2, about a year ago a function at the party HQ in paris. She stood in front of a pale pink (but this is France so the color was very beautiful) banner with “Elle” on it and accepted the run. The old time Socialists stood over at the old time bar and boy the dichotomy was enormous. Her demeanor is totally flat. I would nto be able to vote for her…

Everything changes, new people come up, but it should appear to be more than a magazine party for Marie-Claire held at an inappropriate location.

But Sarkozy seems such bad news. he is just the type I cannot stand. Immigrants who bond wtih the old time right. And he says appalling htings! Could not vote for him either.. and jsut read that Bayrou who came in third is not willing to endorse either… LOL.

Will hunt, and link here, there is a running column from Paris in either The Times or the Independent that has been good to follow the mess.

54. bayprairie - 26 April 2007

Assume that the recent supreme court ruling on the abortion ban is linked to this Austin act and justifies it in the minds of the self-appointed brownshirt defenders of american morality. the timing certainly suggests the recent ruling morally enables their actions. “morally enabling” in some mad-hatter, weaponized cold-blue steel version of “american morality”, of course.

Welcome to the brave new world of texas women, not all of whom are ignorant enough to support the moralistic strawman arguments of legislating men who game votes, and none of whom deserve to be the victims of terrorist acts regardless of which side of the fence their morality resides on. by the way in addition to republican party support a portion of today’s IED enablement has been brought to you by Harry Reid and his new democratic party co-conspiratists against womens bodies who voted in favor of the “partial birth abortion ban” the court upheld.

whacks will scream “republicans are worse!!! republicans are worse!!!”. democratic party pimp bloggers will blame NARAL and Planned Parenthood. sorry. Reid and like-minded democratic ilk are just as much at fault in all this. their votes make this issue bipartisan. so bipartisan it shall be.

i wonder if the corporate media will get up enough courage to even report on this? even call it a bomb? after all, its not a muslim device, so it cannot be terrorism. no story here. like goodhair-gov. rick perry says, “lets just get on down the road”. to show how brave our new corporate media is, KLBJ radio in austin, (owned during his lifetime by Lyndon Johnson, hence LBJ) puts the headline in scare quotes: “Bomb” found in South Austin .. how pathetic is that?

its usual in medical malpractice cases to assign reponsibility for wrongful death. dear dr. politican. now that you’ve obviously stepped with both feet into the health care field do you think there will be no price to be paid when your medical malpractice begins coming to light?

Here is fruit for the crows to pluck,
For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck,
For the sun to rot, for the trees to drop,
Here is a strange and bitter crop.

Abel Meeropol (pseudonym Lewis Allen)

55. marisacat - 26 April 2007

Aside from everything else it ws just such bad news, dangerous precedent in every sense of the word that non science winger language made it into the ruling.

I did nto read it, but Dahlia Lithwick in Slate said that Kennedy spent FIVE pages on the dmaned procedure… and of course ignored the gynecologic-obstetric evidence presented.

The Catholic Crows on the court unleashed, quite knowingly is my take, some violence, it seems.

56. marisacat - 26 April 2007

JJB at # 48

I keep thinking of that old joke:

What will it take to end the war in Vietnam?

Answer: Cutting off Westmoreland’s airconditioning.

I did note years later reading in The New Yorker of his testimony in the CBS case, that he opened his sworn answers stating his age as 72 and a half.

Nutters around at the top for a long time. Nothing but a bloodbath from the get go.

57. marisacat - 26 April 2007

wu ming

here you go… Charles Bremner in the Times.

I really enjoy reading it.. lots of pics and tidbits… ;)

58. BooHooHooMan - 26 April 2007

Gravel / Kucinich anyone?

59. marisacat - 26 April 2007

God at least they can function wtih self scripting. The rest are SO WEAK.

The weak line up.

60. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 April 2007

I fear that is going to be the first of many bombs, threats and shootings.

I’m LOVING Gravel … “some of these people scare me!”

61. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 April 2007

Wilfred sent me this …

THE NIGHTWATCHMAN (Tom Morello) “Road I Must Travel”

cool … great use of images in the video.

62. marisacat - 26 April 2007

uh… I just saw the ad for John McCain at Dkos. LOL the banner is a JohnMcCain.com ad.

What a scream!!

63. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 April 2007

Had to turn the circle jerk … ummmm … “debate” off. Anyway, found this:

US Officials Exclude Car Bombs in Touting Drop in Iraq Violence
By Nancy A. Youssef
McClatchy Newspapers
.

Typical, like they don’t count all the people who can’t find jobs when they publish “unemployment” numbers, or all of the other stats the juke.

Washington – U.S. officials who say there has been a dramatic drop in sectarian violence in Iraq since President Bush began sending more American troops into Baghdad aren’t counting one of the main killers of Iraqi civilians.

Car bombs and other explosive devices have killed thousands of Iraqis in the past three years, but the administration doesn’t include them in the casualty counts it has been citing as evidence that the surge of additional U.S. forces is beginning to defuse tensions between Shiite and Sunni Muslims.

President Bush explained why in a television interview on Tuesday. “If the standard of success is no car bombings or suicide bombings, we have just handed those who commit suicide bombings a huge victory,” he told TV interviewer Charlie Rose.

Really, the only response to a leadership this insane is … forget it, after watching that “debate”, we’re just fucked.

64. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 April 2007
65. marisacat - 26 April 2007

We’re skrooooooooo’ed and then skarewwwed… then we are scrwed… then skre-uh-uh-uh-oooo-ed!

Think of a strangled siamese screaming it out.

Soooo skrewed.

66. Miss Devore - 26 April 2007

I missed the fuss. the tv revived for about 5 minutes.

67. ms_xeno - 26 April 2007

Well, I’m glad Kulongoski is belatedly discovering the value of showmanship, but he’s still a weasely jerk.

68. ms_xeno - 26 April 2007

Oh, and happy anniversary to Mcat. Must head out again in a few minutes. I’ve put Miss D in charge of security if DH or any of those other buffoons tries to crash the party. She has my vintage deluxe Ronco Nut-Crusher. With the special Inconvenient Solar/Carbon Trade Option added.

69. Kevin Lynch - 26 April 2007

What? I guess that means wearing the super-hi-tech-carbon-fiber-epoxy-resin-protector-cup for me! You ladies are getting vicious

70. Kevin Lynch - 26 April 2007

Cut off the part where I wished Madame Chat a happy anniversary!

Keep up the good work ;-)

Kevin

71. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 April 2007

AlanSmithee #34, M Chat is all over the place, I wonder who started it? Could it be someone who has been reading this blog? Lol!

Well, I missed the debate, but I expected that Kucinich would probably be the only one to tell the truth.

Both Obama’s and Hillary’s responses to Rudy yesterday were so weak. Hillary sounded like Bush with her scare tactics. Obama was slightly better, but should never have given the title ‘America’s Mayor’ to Giuliani, whether it was snark or not. He also was wrong when he said it was a ‘new low’. It is an old low. Does Obama not remember the 2004 election?

Keith Olbermann did the best job. He said exactly what should be said in response to the claim that Republicans will ‘save us’. A Republican president did not save us from 9/11, a Republican Mayor did nothing to protect his city from a second attack and in fact ignored, as did the Republican president, all warnings of a possible second attack and refused to prepare for it.

Republicans were in power when Katrina wiped out a city and devastated at least two states, and they did nothing to prepare for that either, and did nothing to save the lives of the victims for five, long days, leaving still untold numbers of US citizens dead.

For some reason, Democrats never point out that Republicans have had several chances to show how they would protect this country, and each time have failed with fatal results, each time. I don’t understand it.

72. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 April 2007

maybe she’s this century’s Kilroy.

73. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 April 2007

Riverbend is leaving Iraq:

The Great Wall of Segregation…

…Which is the wall the current Iraqi government is building (with the support and guidance of the Americans). It’s a wall that is intended to separate and isolate what is now considered the largest ‘Sunni’ area in Baghdad- let no one say the Americans are not building anything. According to plans the Iraqi puppets and Americans cooked up, it will ‘protect’ A’adhamiya, a residential/mercantile area that the current Iraqi government and their death squads couldn’t empty of Sunnis.

The wall, of course, will protect no one. I sometimes wonder if this is how the concentration camps began in Europe. The Nazi government probably said, “Oh look- we’re just going to protect the Jews with this little wall here- it will be difficult for people to get into their special area to hurt them!” And yet, it will also be difficult to get out.

The Wall is the latest effort to further break Iraqi society apart. Promoting and supporting civil war isn’t enough, apparently- Iraqis have generally proven to be more tenacious and tolerant than their mullahs, ayatollahs, and Vichy leaders. It’s time for America to physically divide and conquer- like Berlin before the wall came down or Palestine today. This way, they can continue chasing Sunnis out of “Shia areas” and Shia out of “Sunni areas”.

I always hear the Iraqi pro-war crowd interviewed on television from foreign capitals (they can only appear on television from the safety of foreign capitals because I defy anyone to be publicly pro-war in Iraq). They refuse to believe that their religiously inclined, sectarian political parties fueled this whole Sunni/Shia conflict. They refuse to acknowledge that this situation is a direct result of the war and occupation. They go on and on about Iraq’s history and how Sunnis and Shia were always in conflict and I hate that. I hate that a handful of expats who haven’t been to the country in decades pretend to know more about it than people actually living there.

I remember Baghdad before the war- one could live anywhere. We didn’t know what our neighbors were- we didn’t care. No one asked about religion or sect. No one bothered with what was considered a trivial topic: are you Sunni or Shia? You only asked something like that if you were uncouth and backward. Our lives revolve around it now. Our existence depends on hiding it or highlighting it- depending on the group of masked men who stop you or raid your home in the middle of the night.

And then she tells us why they must leave:

On the one hand, I know that leaving the country and starting a new life somewhere else- as yet unknown- is such a huge thing that it should dwarf every trivial concern. The funny thing is that it’s the trivial that seems to occupy our lives. We discuss whether to take photo albums or leave them behind. Can I bring along a stuffed animal I’ve had since the age of four? Is there room for E.’s guitar? What clothes do we take? Summer clothes? The winter clothes too? What about my books? What about the CDs, the baby pictures?

The problem is that we don’t even know if we’ll ever see this stuff again. We don’t know if whatever we leave, including the house, will be available when and if we come back. There are moments when the injustice of having to leave your country, simply because an imbecile got it into his head to invade it, is overwhelming. It is unfair that in order to survive and live normally, we have to leave our home and what remains of family and friends… And to what?

It’s difficult to decide which is more frightening- car bombs and militias, or having to leave everything you know and love, to some unspecified place for a future where nothing is certain.

Heartbreaking – if there is a hell, every single one of those criminals who created this tragedy should spend eternity there, along with those who authorized and continue to support it!

74. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 April 2007

That link isn’t working for some reason, trying again:

Baghdad Burning

Lol, Madman, maybe she is -

75. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 April 2007

and I’ll take a smiling, mischevious feline over a phallic-nosed GI peeking over a wall anyday.

76. marisacat - 26 April 2007

I thought the debate what I caught of it was APPALLING.

And some of the threads around are as appalling as the debate.

Hillary makes the war, of invasion and occupation, sound like we went to tea at a friend’s house, while we were there we broke some china but we are unconcerned that we did that. And now they need to learn how to use a whisk broom and a pan. Not our problem.

She really said some version of “we gave them freedom and gee it seems problematic for them” And, Ooops “Not our war”. That part is verbatim. Not our war. NOT OUR WAR..

What shits run thsi damned country. And want to run it.

77. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 April 2007

good night everybody, I’ll leave tonight with this strange cultural artifact.

78. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 April 2007

oh, one more thing (happened after I gave up and turned it off) … Kucinich and Gravel go after Obama on his sabre-rattling at Iran.

here.

79. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 April 2007

NOW I’m going to bed!

Nite!

80. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 April 2007

‘nite, madman –

What shits run this damned country.

Yes, all of them – they all see this war as nothing more than a political football, with no thought to the horror they unleashed on millions of innocent people.

I despise Hillary more and more each time I see her. So scripted. She is laying the groundwork for forever war with her nasty attempt to scare people about the ‘dangers’ out there! She sounds more and more like Bush each time she speaks.

I am more scared of them than this ‘enemy’ they keep talking about. No enemy has caused anything close to the death and destruction they’ve caused in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I’m afraid you’re right, marisacat, we are screwed -

81. marisacat - 26 April 2007

New Thread On to war


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