Coo Coo Coo… Coup? Anyone? 25 May 2007
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iran, Israel/AIPAC.trackback
San Anselmo in No California, in protest of the 2004 (re)election of W
Well, Clemons is entirely too cute here, “end run around the president”… a helpful commenter fills in,
Would that not be a coup?
Another says,
argument in the Bush administration?? it’s like choosing between the cannibal serial killers and the paedophile serial killers…
However, now that the sun does not set on our Empire… it seems the coup was a while ago and the news is just now being read at home…
But, still a good read. Tho SC is entirely unconvincing that there is anything like consensus on the State and Diplo side of the Bush bed. (ew…)
It is a very good thread, with this as the last comment:
The Problem is not so much Cheney, Bush, etc but who will come after them. All the crimes commited now will set a precedent for future presidents, who grab ever more power with an amazingly shrinking constitution.
Bush is not the devil, he is just opening the door for the next tyrant. Already now he has enough power to rule without congress, but not enough for the end-game: an unlimited term, plus a heredetary throne. Watch out for Bush III.
Sorry my spelling, english is not my language.
Posted by: nobody at May 25, 2007 09:30 PM
oh raise a top notch top shelf Margarita - or your favorite poison - to our cloudy future… more blood soup no doubt, with humans as croutons.
If only there were a god and hell for eternity. Someone other than the dead, the dying, the suffering and the dispossesed, might pay.
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UPDATE, 5:49 am
Spotted this at Counterpunch, from the 22nd
Democratic Disconnect
A Widening Chasm on Impeachment
By DAVE LINDORFF
The divide between Democratic leaders contemplating their re-election prospects in 2008 and rank-and-file Democrats is becoming a chasm–one so wide that Congressional Democrats may soon find it hard to straddle it.
The issue is impeachment.
So far, Democrats in Congress and at the top of the party hierarchy, out of touch with public sentiment and worried that impeachment could hurt them with “independents”–whom they mistakenly consider to stand somehow “in between” Democrats and Republicans–have been following House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s vow that for the 110th Congress, “impeachment is off the table.”
They’ve been doing more than that: they have been actively working to tamp down, and even to crush, impeachment campaigns in the states.
For example, in the state of Washington, an effort to get the state to pass a joint legislative resolution which would have compelled the Congress to initiate impeachment proceedings was derailed after the Democratic leadership dispatched two of the state’s leading federal elected officials, Sen. Patty Murray and Rep. Jay Inslee, to press legislative leaders to block a floor vote. Similar pressure doomed efforts that might have passed in the legislatures of New Mexico and Vermont (The Vermont Senate did pass the resolution).
Meanwhile, down at the state and local level, Democratic Party committee after Democratic Party committee is voting out resolutions calling for impeachment.
The latest Democratic Party organization to call for impeachment of both Bush and Cheney is the Massachusetts Democratic Party, which at its state convention on Saturday, May 19, voted out a strong measure calling on the state’s elected representatives in Washington to investigate Bush and Cheney for misleading the nation into war, for authorizing torture, and for warrantless wiretapping. The message concludes: “If the investigation supports the charges, vote to impeach both Bush and Cheney as provided in the Constitution.”
Massachusetts Democrats thus join California’s huge Democratic Party, which passed a similar resolution less than a month ago at its annual convention, in what was widely perceived as a slap at Pelosi, who represents a district in San Francisco.
To date, 14 state Democratic Parties have now called for impeachment. [snip]
HA! The part of San Francisco (CA 12, whereas I live in CA 8) that Nancy does NOT represent, a swathe out in “the Avenues”, is represented by Lantos. Our very own West Coast Lieberman, in every sense (Swett in NH, whom they really want to shoe horn into the congress, somehow, is his daughter). Lately he has been down in Miami, railing agaisnt … … wait for it, it is SO vital to our nation… railing against Chavez.
Our dear little Internationalists in congress. With the empty coffee tables. And no regard at all for us.
BRAVO to the states, cities and committees voting on impeachment!
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NYT: Air strikes over GAZA

Left, Mahmud Hams/AFP-Getty Images; right, Adel Hana/Associated Press
Palestinians, left, ran as a missile fired by the Israeli Army came down on a Hamas post in the central Gaza strip. A Palestinian boy, right, reacted to the blast. The Israelis hit at least eight different locations.
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Via IraqSlogger, on the troop reduction story in the NYT:
White House advisors are discussing the possibility of drawing down US forces by as much as 50% in 2008, David Sanger and David Cloud write in the Times.
For their big scoop, the reporters anonymously cite high-level administration officials. A revised US role in 2008 would focus less on providing security to Baghdad and other areas and more on training Iraqi forces and battling al-Qa’ida in Iraq. The debate falls along familiar lines, they report, with a Rice-Gates faction supporting the drawdown and redeployment and a hawkish faction, possibly associated with the vice president, supporting larger troop numbers.
“Still, there is no indication that Mr. Bush is preparing to call an early end to the current troop increase, and one reason officials are talking about their long-range strategy may be to blunt pressure from members of Congress, including some Republicans, who are pushing for a more rapid troop reduction,” they write.
Looming next year is the election campaign:
“Several administration officials said they hoped that if such a reduction were under way in the midst of the presidential campaign, it would shift the debate from whether American forces should be pulled out by a specific deadline — the current argument consuming Washington — to what kind of long-term presence the United States should have in Iraq.”
Officials cautioned that no firm plans had emerged from the discussions, which have apparently not yet solicited input from US commanders in Iraq or the Iraqi leadership.
As if anyone cares what the commanders think, as if they don’t regurgitate on cue…
Oh can’t you hear the ringing eve of election (months long) debate now… Hillary saying: I will go to Iraq! I will end the war! I can be CinC! I can salute!
And the Republican saying: take a look, it’s ending.
Both lying thru their bleached and scraped teeth.
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Good idea with the flag protest – we’re flying a Betsy Ross flag along with a rainbow Peace flag and I’ll turn the Betsy Ross upside down tomorrow.
Grab your popcorn. Reading that site is rotting my brain.
Oh good goddess. Battle of the Network Dimwits.
omigod. someone called Elise “the old guard”.
I might need a pitcher of Margs to calm the gasping from laughter. It’s moving to spasmodic.
How is anyone “old guard” at a site that is 5, 5, all of FIVE. years. old.
We can all agree that Bush and Cheney want to “deal” with Iran before they leave office. The only open question is how?
From a strictly pragmatic perspective, the Pentagon doesn’t have the resources to do anything but bomb the Iran and send in a few special ops teams. Those plans have been on the shelf for a while. Likely that some of minor actions have been ongoing for a while. Hersh and Ritter have either stated or suggested as much. There could be a few moderating influences in the Pentagon, but doubt those carry much weight.
What we’re seeing are three options:
1) The go slow negotiation one that Clemons identifies as being the Condi-Gates position. I can’t concur that anything approaching real negotiations are taking place. Or that Condi-Gates wouldn’t prefer a more muscular military approach. However, they may be the sanest of the bunch, and are counseling that absent overt aggression by Iran, a pre-emptive strike would be very problematical. Hopefully they also know that Iran is much larger than Iraq. (Doubt that any of them appreciate that bombing campaigns have never been effective.) Those limited actions could be their attempt to bait the mullahs.
2) Cheney’s insane plot. That would work. Unlike Lebanon last year, the US wouldn’t hesitate to move in behind Israeli preemptive strikes if Iran retaliated. Olmert’s still licking his wound from his last licking — so, a leadership change in Israel has to happen first. Plus doubt that Cheney carries much or enough weight with the right people in Israel.
3) The “Kissinger” model: Bush Authorizes New Covert Action Against Iran
LINK
Looks a lot like what Dr. Stranglove and Nixon did in Chile. We know the Doc consults frequently with Bush and Cheney. Doubt that they appreciate the differences between Iran and Chile. Much harder to do in Iran and it took at least two years to get it done in Chile. Maybe Cheney was enamored with this one for a while and now sees that it can’t be done, much less done in the time they have left.
It’s also possible that all the leaks are propaganda — to scare or push Iran into doing something stupid. Stupid enough that it could be turned over to the UN and our allies. The French and Germans are our friends again and would have to put some of their skin into the game.
How I wish these people were out of office and all this threatened military actions would stop. Okay, return the pot to well below boiling.
catch it before they delete it…
Well, let’s see: Elise is #47731. Buhdydharma is #70415.
That should tell people something about their relative “old guard”-ness.
Oh, this is a hoot – check out the parent commentary:
it’s even more amazing that anyone is still siting the whole “progressive” meme in regards to dKos. the place is about as conservative as it gets. what use is it to anyone with an ounce of social justice in their body?
dKos has been outed for the republicrat shit house it is
close the door and turn out the lights please
Kevin
LOL
Mcat – Errin sounds like _____ – do you recall the name of that feisty one that was banned years ago? Always on the edge and blew up a lot. Yet, she did care about being banned. Had an email from her. Her tolerance level for stupidity and inanity was much lower than mine.
Mcat and liberal — is that “buddha” diary with he and elise going at it common fare for the site these days? Goodness, hundreds of comments for a crappy cut and paste Diary. I had a dust up with Bob Johnson today (a first IIRC) and neither of us resorted to calling each other names. Can’t say that I was always that civil — god, how pathetic I must have looked in some of those old battles, but at least mine were always with creeps.
Oh, this is a hoot – check out the parent commentary
Very funny. Apparently tirelessly answering the blogmaid calls and terminal vapidity do not result in a job or even erstaz respect. What a shame that the Miss Laura set has banned almost all the actual feminists.
Marie…
sorry don’t really know. I hardly read the site thru 2006… I only bothered in Feb and March of this year, when Delaware Dem then Martin at BMT and so on freaked out at me… LOL.
I DO read snippets that people send links to – or post links here. I cheerfully admit observing the asylum has a comedic factor…. 8)
But I don’t know the dynamics of the place. Or the people, unless long term commenters.
Marie – Bob Johnson is a creep too. I suspect he’s mentally ill in some way and tries to mask it with his “humor”. Once I disagreed with him in one of his diaries and he went berserk – he said “Get out of my diary!” Then threatened to trollrate all my responses until I “got out of his diary”. And he did.
Control freak weirdo.
I hardly read the site thru 2006… I only bothered in Feb and March of this year, when Delaware Dem then Martin at BMT and so on freaked out at me… LOL.
Me too. I’d just pop in and scan the headlines but rarely read anything over there after the pie wars until this whole non-outing of Mr Vagina happened. That’s how I ended up here.
“old guard” – budhy got the “guard” part right.
LOL, catnip, I see there’s no response from the Troll/Sockpuppet Police so far.
That’s one cute sockpuppet you have there! “Octopuppet”.
To the tune of Jukebox Hero:
That’s one cute sockpuppet you have there! “Octopuppet”.
I am a woman of many tentacles. Fear the catnip sockpuppet. Fear it, I say!
3,400 Pairs of Combat Boots
James dropped off this link to Kurt Nimmo over at Mo Betta:
catnip has eight arms to hold you. There is no escape.
There is the beatles reference in the title… but also kajagoogoo.
I’m not in a state to say anything profound, so I’ll let another respond to my perusing of the threads I’ve missed.
Patti Smith,1978
And to this day, that album cover – wild hair, unshaven pits, braless – is the hottest pop culture photo I’ve ever seen. And I don’t care who it offends that I say that. The album cover of Easter haunts me when I masturbate.
I go to every show in NY. She is better on any night than 99% of the acts out there. And she is even better in her 50′s than she was in her 20′s.
Shit, I’m 31,565… Do I have any leverage?
And what is Mcat?
BTW, Buhdy is as big an ass as Elise. He just plays a better game – like our good drive by friend MB.
Strangely, I never thought it was a game.
I just wrote shit.
Just as an aside… I always fall in love with lesbians. Part of it is that I have trouble identifying with women who aren’t butch. I’m always open to anyting & I listen like a vag-type vacuum bag, but what gets me is a butch attitude.
What gets me is the – I don’t give a fuck. I am what I am, and fuck you for questioning my integrity. If you don’t like who I am, fine.
And I fear, those people of both sexes, are few and far between.
1978… think that was the year I saw Patti Smith at the old Winterland out here in SF. They have torn Winterland down… some years ago now (Condos!!) but it had been buidlt in the 30s for fights, 3 ft walls of concrete. PERFECT for rock concerts and only a few blocks from my parents house.
I don’t remember the name of the concert but it was beyond belief. At one point Patti and the guitarist and the guitar all sank to the floor and kept playing and singing. Not sure how they did it, even watching it happen, but they did.
{slithering awake in the shiny mud} I’m formerly known as user 18ksomething. No one is going to beat Mcat’s 97.
I am wondering who my sockpuppet is suppose to be. They should at least be cute and fab.
overcast morning, and a single pigoen complaining like a Finnish chorus.
the woman in the office next to me at work is a famous complainer and she runs all her complaints together in a glossolalial manner. I Iost a crown this weekend and Burger King gave me curdled milk and I don’t want to pass out
oh, btw. patti smith turned 60 recently.
Here’s my sockpuppet
Some cool Patti Smith stuff.
17. liberalcatnip
Teh funny! Log that one into the Koswack Songbook.
my saturday morning sockpuppet (thanks for the margarita recipes):
Sockpuppet link
They were unanimously acquitted.
thank god for that. Would nto be so easy here. Authority must have its way, and extract punishment should it not get its way.
Ann Wright has a piece up at TruthOut:
She also mentions at the end that since the kick off of The Surge, 500 Americans have died and 15,000 Iraqis… and makes the simple extrapolation, 30 year contracts, permanent bases… we will be there forever.
Which was the plan all along.
OK OK… it is Novak… but he has a scathing piece on the Democrats – Nancy and Reid primarily. Via RCP.
just checked, my UID is 32318. I lurked for a year before registering. what a waste of time the whole site turned out to be.
I say let then fight to the death
Kevin
Missy Beattie in Counterpunch:
It’s obvious that the insurgents intend to bloody us, surge or no surge. al Sadr made it unambiguously clear that our troops are neither welcome to stay nor safe from the Mehdi militias. We are no closer to a solution than we were three years ago.
Beattie had one thing wrong, though – the 109th will be considered the worst congress in history, but the 110th may be the most disappointing.
IraqSlogger made a point they said is being left out of US reports… Moqtada appeared wearing a funeral shroud… they said, indicating he is willing to die.
As we stop up the aerial bombing of Sadr city.
I just had a scary thought. What if the Dems feared that Bush would play chicken with the supplementary, that if it was not passed he would simply leave the troops in theater without resupply? Stalin did it, and this admin is certainly Stalinesque.
From what I have seen of this administration:
- their disregard for anything approaching rational strategy and expert advice;
- their complete lack of empathy with the troops and their families, and;
- their glaring historical perspective
I’d say that it may be one reason the Dems caved. “W might be batshit crazy enough to do it”.
The Democrats are scrwed, no matter what. And none of them says anything of interest. Sadly.
I think that pork had a lot to do iwth it.
Who says the Democrats give a shit about the troops.
Al Gore was on Charlie Rose last night… and I fell asleep. he PUT ME TO SLEEP. It was appallingly boring.
I scammed this frm Angry Arab, in the Independent:
as we all madly rush to prove the Geneva Conventions of no consequence – at all.
I just had a scary thought. What if the Dems feared that Bush would play chicken with the supplementary, that if it was not passed he would simply leave the troops in theater without resupply? Stalin did it, and this admin is certainly Stalinesque.
Wozzle,
It’s painful watching you and yours trying to rationalize the Dem vote with such flimsy reasoning just as it’s painful to watch you and your friends on dk line up behind some idiot attacking Greg Palast in this thread.
Greg Palast is probably dangerous to Democrats and republicans both because he tells the truth and is an excellent investigative journalist. The dems voted for the supplimental because their ‘big tent’ is far more conservative than the people they pretend to represent and because they’re unprincipled cowards.
Mythago at Maia’s latest masochism exercise on Alas
Shorter Mythago: Shut up, you stupid dumb foreigner ! How dare you judge the Great And Mighty Duopolistic World Policeman !! Shut up !!
Hell, I’m an American and I think American voters are out of their fucking minds. I wonder if that means I’m an honorary foreigner. Fuck, it sure feels like that sometimes.
[Fume]
Shit. Didn’t close the blockquotes correctly. Or the italics. First two paragraphs are not mine, in case that’s not clear. Want coffee. Want to breathe again, too. :p
I’m really fucking sick and tired of abused voters constantly saying that they CAN’T LEAVE the PARTY !! It LOOOOOOOOOVES THEM !! It’s a GOOD PARTY at HEART, really !! We just need to looooooooove it more and show it the true path of LOOOOOOOVE, and then everything will be all right. It protects us from that other even bigger, nastier batterer that would fuck us up ten times as bad if only Mr. DP didn’t LOOOOOOVE us so much.
Fuck fuck fuck.
Hillary Clinton’s campaign song should be:
When He Hit Me, It Felt Just Like A Kiss. Or some other paen to the joys of loving a dominator who beats on you day in and day out, alternating the beatings with sweet talk and an occasional flower, and then dares you to leave because outside is soooooo much worse !!
Weird
Colleen #43 – I meant neither to exculpate nor to cover for the dems (not a dem, never will join a party) but to express a real fear. Suppose the scenario I posited actually occurred – yet another “constitutional crisis” to add to the list and another potential takeover of government by an administration totally corrupt, out of control and insane. We already have one brewing at DoJ.
As far as the diary goes, I believe that Palast has been spinning some meaty tales out of mighty thin evidence, and that is what the diarist stated. In too many words, I think.
Ms_xeno–are you better yet?
kelp-a-malt sounds great; like chocolate-covered anchovies, sea-urchins with peaches.
does anyone have the links to this weeks “bush blank check” roll calls handy? i cant find them anywhere and i want to do some work on it later tonight.
im particularly interested in how hodes voted due to the lying bullshit feel-good “puppy propaganda” story AP is running.
a disgusting piece of 4th rate journalismo.
i even looked on the front page of Dkos going back story by story to the night before the votes. it’s kind of funny but they don’t seem to have a link visible.
coinkidink?
bayprarie–there are results on “On a wing and an agnostic prayer” here.
the only link i see to a roll call vote in “on a wing and an agnostic prayer” is to this
Senate Votes on HR 1591
3/29/07 and # of dead
read more here about the supplemental….
but i’m looking for this week’s votes. that link isn’t the bill, wrong month, and the totals are all wrong.
is there one i’m missing?
bay prairie
MissDevore is right.
But check Sirota at Working assets… I htink he might link to a lot more than just the roll calls.
I linked to him, might be in wing and a prayer or the next post.
or find hm at the blogs at http://www.workingassets.com
smithee links to the senate roll call, same thread
I linked to the house roll call.
wordpress must individualize blogs then. in “on a wing and an agnostic prayer” i see no smithee comment at all, and in the post after that i only see a “vote green’ link. in the one previous i see no comments at all.
is smithee hiding from me?
interestingly enough atrios not only doesnt post a link to the roll call he doesnt even mention the vote!
did it even happen? haha..
anyway sorry i asked. enjoy.
To The tra la la er Dem enablers:
Not to worry, go on holiday, maybe take in a Schwarzenegger or Stallone mold movie where the righteous survivor swears “to the ends of the earth” vengeance. …
Maybe Markos feels that lauding Arnold’s primate -cy or bitching about Copyright law violations will “spare us” from the influx of American inspired foreign remakes down the road.. Such “boom, you’re dead” flicks unfortunately are sure to be a hit among target audiences in the US. It’s too bad we produced the original.
You can Slap any non sequitor of a name served up to the “could give a shit/ it’s a Holiday weekend” crowd:
Great, A DOUBLE FEATURE!
FRIST, it’s Belle- uh- Pelosi , Harry Reid and Our Gang in ” The Beginning of the End”., then it’s Bush, Cheney and the Pentagon in “From Here to Eternity”.
All of this is reviewed on television and online in between trying to sell us pills for a better hard- on with the kind of “achievement” and “performance” we never thought was possible. The attempt to conflate “Performance” with “Achievement” is everywhere from Foreign Policy to the engorgement of the dick The Democrats have become Cheney’s Viagra.
If your going to the movies don’t forget your essentials, that kiddy candy treat called Circus Peanuts. They are the most reprehensible orange marshmellowy turds ever foisted upon a nation and its children. Well, almost the most reprehensible. They are as gummy though less healthy and palatable as road tar, a Chevron/ Texaco distillate no doubt….
So Circus Peanuts and Body Armor it may be, having stuck our National head in the sand and in a city of SEVEN MILLION IN IRAQ.
Taking in the theater, not historically a the best of choices at “The End” of a War—-Civil or otherwise..
bayprairie
go to http://www.house.gov then click on clerk. The votewas on Thursday.
If you look on the FP at house.gov on the right you will see a link to the senate.
I think at the senate it is under legislative and records (check at the bottom at senate.gov)
I must have the thread wrong. I know in one thread I linked to the house and smithtee linked to the senate.
I called my link Roll Call.
BHHM. I’ve got a bootleg of “Hot Fuzz”, though I was advised I should see “Shaun of the Dead” first.
and yes, those peanuts; I was suspicious about them even when my judgement was poorer.
I suspect they feed them to chickens now.
I had blissfuly forgotten those “peanuts”… and remembering them included what they looked like.
Putting lunch off for a bit.
bay
here is the house vote link. (cannot find it back in threads)
Hodes was a NO.
Smithee links to the senate vote in Nutsacks thread, comment 37.
Circus peanuts were not meant to be eaten – they were meant to be used for crowd control. Shot from a launcher, yes. I learned this from a reliable Atlantic City (NJ) PD officer. He was later tossed off the Steel Pier for this bit of informancy. Tragic, really.
Well, to be brutally honest, that is not EXACTLY the reason he was thrown from the pier. But it approximates the truth. And no, Circus Peanuts were NOT initially to be used for crowd control. They were only to be used as backup for skittles…
wozzle #48 agree. Not sure why Bob Johnson has such a bee up his butt that he’s making it his current mission to disabuse the twitocracy of their infatuation with Palast. What they need is education in critical reading and thinking skills. Palast is amusing not dangerous. (That’s what I had a run-in with him yesterday. He conceded or just ran out of steam for that debate. But is reinvigorated today.)
use google to find that Senate vote. I got it Thurs. night but didn’t save it. Schumer and Johnson no shows. Boxer, Kennedy, Sanders, Whitehouse, Leahy, Wyden, Feingold, Clinton, Obama, Dodd and three GOP voted No. The others voted for it.
smithee in Nutsack at comment 37 has the senate vote.
Schumer and Johnson – fascinating. I’m beginning to believe that Schumer’s a Giulianista. Not that being a Rudy fan will help either.
Why is there only one dem trying in the Senate? And why is he always happily losing? C’mon, Russ, give us the word.
schumer’s wife is deeply tied into NYC entrenched whatever. I am sure they are in the bag to both Guiliani and Bloomberg.
She was on the Transportation agency when th ferry boat tragedy occurred. Although a Blue Ribbon Commission found that the accident was party due to her nepotism, her appointments for patronage: SHE WAS PROMOTED.
She now heads up MORE than jsut city transportation.
if you google “schumer+wife+ferry” you get it.
Free Republic has its uses. What can I say.
Mc, a freeper. I’m at a loss.
for wozzle’s comment 66
because that’s his appointed role, like boxer and kennedy have appointed roles….(gore (check websters for definition) has one too)….
ever wonder how the same state elects both feinstein (who gives a fuck about the spelling) and boxer (not to mention wax face)?
thank you Marisa
well Feinstein’s run in 92 (or 94, hard to remember) was such a breeze that she campaigned heavily for Boxer. hershensohn was such a nightmare, the So cal Repub and radio personality… who ran agaisnt Boxer.
But iirc Boxer in the alst run got more votes than Feinstein ever had.
Oh sure it is rigged. No question.
name,
sorry if there ws a delay… the “back stage” of WP is mess today. I am assuming they take it down later for a tune up.
wozzle at 68
well if you google that, you do land at FR, among other places.
i read something this year about Schumer, forget what it was and I suddenly was curious about the wif.
Wowow… what a treasure trove of dirty city politics SHE is. And Schumer is such a hack.
no apologies necessary Marisa, it’s wonderful that you do what you do in this heartless landscape.
Sheehan left the party. I assume the thread is bloody.
Sheehan would do well to leave dkos too after the way she’s been treated over there.
Hi “name”.
I noticed in that Palast trhead DH said (again) that antiwar.com isn’t a “reliable source”. Huh? They provide links to news stories and editorials from quite a range of people. What’s not “reliable” about that? I think it’s the name “antiwar” that makes him throw up a bit in his mouth.
Eight more U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq:
How’s that surge workin’ for ya, Bush?
I guess Lebanon’s government can stop denying the fact that the US is supplying weapons to them now.
MYDD is setting down rules for discussing Hillarious.
A few weeks ago TAPPED spent two days (and then some) on “don’t call her Hillary” even tho her campaign uses “Hillary” on its FP.
Poor little flower.
Talk about missing the point.
Netteries being primed.
As far as the diary goes, I believe that Palast has been spinning some meaty tales out of mighty thin evidence, and that is what the diarist stated.
Only the most generous reader would paraphrase that diarist’s efforts in that manner. What the diarist actually says is:
and then proceeds to present flimsy evidence and logic to substantiate his hyperbole. I didn’t bother to read the thread. Did one of the many lawyers tell that diarist that vote caging is indeed illegal?
Palast is amusing not dangerous. (That’s what I had a run-in with him yesterday. He conceded or just ran out of steam for that debate. But is reinvigorated today.)
Perhaps he became bored?
Did he get paid to write that crap?
That’s insulting to liberal women. What does he think we are? Stupid? (rhetorical question)
“She ain’t hawkish, she just looks that way…”
LOL we still need someone to tie our aprons in the back and zip up the cocktail dress… and manage the clasp on the pearls.
So we can be “poised”. such a dated word.
yes I so need Hillary to run and win.
Anything BUT.
cripes! another text message from Hill. She wants to do vodka shots tonight. I kept arguing the merits of tequila, but she keeps reminding me of Poland.
blowing paper horn till blue in face:
“Happy 5th Birthday, DailyKos!
by DavidNYC
Sat May 26, 2007 at 02:49:36 PM PDT
Five years ago this very day, an Army veteran and J.D. from Chicago and El Salvador named Markos Moulitsas Zúniga fired up a new blog. He called it DailyKos – inspired by his Army nickname – and thundered right out the gate:
Day 1
I am progressive. I am liberal. I make no apologies. Even for the first two lies.”
Oops–misplaced the quotation close!
thanks for that. At some point when I was first there I did go back and read his early entries. I was pretty sure he called himself or the blog
LIBERAL.
LOL. Hardly.
M-cat – wish I’d done that. Only stumbled on a one when I was looking for something else. Was one of his earliest and said that a war with Iraq was never in the cards and not something to worry about.
Kos did believe he was a liberal and progressive — because he was too uninformed to recognize that he wasn’t.
colleen – he ended it by recommending my last comment; so could mean boredom or concession.
They are all adopting blame and run. Including the Democrats…
This is great:
Smart, funny and well organized
What is interesting is how often they have come to use the midwifery/birthing metaphors, for the loss of hundreds of thousands of lives in violence, and their apoplexy on abortion and stem cell-research,etc. Because we know stem cells can smile, but can’t imagine burned to death Iraqi children might have that potential.
it is all about the Great Mythical Birth Baby. Popping out all over. There is no death in the wars.
None.
Gee get with the programme.
Saving snowflakes every day!
Marie–that was great. Btw–has cheney spoken at brigham young yet?
Margo Guryan: “16 Words”
Miss D, I am getting the good drugs tomorrow. Had to profusely swear to the Nurse Practitioner at Popecare that I would not use it to start a meth ring. :p
So much for buying mr_xeno a birthday gift for next week. I suppose I could bake him a cake, though.
Thanks for checking up on me. Oh, and thanks to Mcat for repairing my broken tags, getting me out of spam, etc.
I have got to stop reading boards outside my annointed circle. I just can’t take the idiocy and eternal slide to the Right anymore. These people just don’t get that as they justify repeatedly the leaders’ slide rightward, they too become Right-wingers. I mean, WTF ? The U.S., under BOTH parties, stomps all over the world like the proverbial 30,000 lb. gorilla, but those women overseas should just shut up about our system and stick to critiquing Buffy ?
Please.
Maybe Sheehan will run against Hillary now. Wouldn’t that be a kick ?
You’d Think They’d Learn!
Shit like this is always what got the Clinton’s in trouble. Arrogance and a sense of entitlement.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/25/AR2007052502332.html?hpid=topnews
Everybody doesn’t do it — and more importantly nobody should do it. Doesn’t matter if others can get away with it. In fact Republicans voters think it reflects well on GOP politicians because it’s a sign that their guy is rich and well connected, exactly what they think they will be one day if they can keep liberals out of office. But they will rail against Democrats, the ones that purport to represent the little guy, who do it because it smells like hypocrisy. And such behavior does make Democratic voters queasy.
Also, when do we the people take back OUR White House. Put an end to using it as a hotel for the rich and famous. Overnight guests should be limited to immediate family members and foreign heads of state. That’s it.
I’m pondering the best retort to the McCain aide that said Obama wouldn’t know an RPG from a bong…..
well, look what colin powell knew about aluminum tubes used in centrifuges to enrich uranium.
Shark moms are doin’ it for themselves.
Maybe Sheehan will run against Hillary now. Wouldn’t that be a kick ?
Many orange heads would explode. Orange matter mayhem would ensue. Cleanup on aisles 4, 9, 16, 22, 36, 72…
97–catnip–bad news for me–I will have to stop sleeping with myself now!
hmm I think McCain is still at the Hanoi Hilton. Refighting Vietnam forever! We’ll win one YET!
100 m-cat, and Kissinger is hanging out at the WH doing the same thing.
I will have to stop sleeping with myself now!
rofl… I was going to suggest a body condom but I guess that wouldn’t exactly work…hmmm. I guess as long as sharks aren’t Catholic, they can use birth control though.
I think Kissinger is a member of the undead club, personally.
if you have never seen Beyond the Valley of the Dolls you must catch it on IFC tonite….. words cant even decribe it.
What the heck is going on in Texas??
Yeesh. Let’s get ready to rumble…
#104. I caught that last year when I was channel-surfing – and wish I hadn’t.
liberal – isn’t that great. Hope wherever she is, Molly is watching — she so loved those assholes in the TX Leg. How I wish I could imagine how she would have written about this.
Sucks to be you…:
Good for them!
hey-tangentially related to 104–I read the other day that the prince of bahrain was giving this big party and michael jackson was given $10mil, just to show up. other celebs were attending–faye dunaway, and the article noted that they could all expect to receive fab gifts, etc. And Dionne Warwick was to be there–but she was the only one who had to perform. And for $500K.
The moment she wakes up, she just has to take whatever gig she gets.
I wish I had the energy to whip my Tv into shape tonight–I did everything in the wrong order today–read a novel really early in the morning, watched a dvd in the afternoon. Now my remaining books are highly technical, and I just can’t go there.
I saw that Safeway was selling “Blink” for $16 in paperback. I might walk over…..
catnip-marie has the video at 89.
marisacat is an extremely tolerant hostess, cuz if she wasn’t I think she would tell me to learn HTML tonight.
lol catnip… its one of my all time favorite movies (and ist actually very culturally signicant but i’ll spare you the film school analysis)
RE Texas….
At least the Texas Dems actually show some balls every now and then. I mean trying to overtake the podium and when the went into hiding during redistricting. Harry Reid would have just sent a letter to someone and Joe Biden would just go on talkshows and talk about reaching a bipartisan agreement. Hillary would wait for it to be over then release a comment stating her postion. Kerry would just whine on Dkos. Lol.. Lieberman would be speaker’s office giving him oral.
MissDevore
I have blink. Not sure it is worth 16 if there is somewhere near to rent it. But I like the movie. I probably paid something around that for it.
#110. That’s what I get for not being a diligent linkclicker! Thanks. It’s even better watching it. I gave you a h/t at my place, Marie.
#111. But but but Revisionist…it was just so bad. I’m sure there’s something to it if it’s to be studied but mon dieu… lol
Here’s some classic Lenny Bruce on Steve Allen’s show, circa 1959.
http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/
Oh, wanted to share one of my babies with you – aka Josephina, Finia Rinia and Will you please stop drooling in my ear?? Ewww.
that is a great cat!
damn, can’t get lenny to load.
steve allen was the first late night comic I watched and was always my favorite (rule in my house was, if you were sick, you were isolated form other kin in “family room” and allowed to watch television non-stop and drink ginger ale and eat saltines. sometimes a humidifier or vicks’ vapo-rub was employed.
There are a few isolated gimmicks on the late-nighters since, but no one was better than allen. Johnny carson was the obnoxious white male personified.
that is a great cat!
She sure thinks so.
missdevore, I had to click twice on that arrow thing in the center of the youtube screen for mine to load. Damn, it’s . He was talking about how he started taking drugs as a little kid and then does a hilarious glue-sniffing routine.
Lenny was the man. No question.
Should be “Damn, it’s funny.” Or “Damn, it’s terrific.” Or “Damn, it’s [insert adjective describing humor here].” :p
I tried some variations, etm. I have actually lost my reservoir of patience since talking to SIL via phone.
have to go to bed now and read some sheafs of printed articles.
night, vipes.
Josephina is exquisite
Thanks, colleen. Not that I can take credit for her good looks though.
She’s a good cat – except when she wakes me up every morning with her gentle scratches, zombie stares and drooling (yes, in my ears). She also likes playing the “let’s step on mommy’s hair, she hates that” game if the other wake up techniques don’t work. I’ve had her since she was a baby and she’s always had a thing about my hair.