The War Effort 12 September 2007
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iran, Iraq War, The Battle for New Orleans, WAR!.trackback
I took a little walk around Black Commentator (publishes Thursday) and Black Agenda Report (publishes Wednesday)…
Lead article at BC (I hate to link to them as everything goes behind the sub wall after a single week, but here goes):
ElBaradei told the New York Times, “This is the first time Iran is ready to discuss all the outstanding issues which triggered the crisis in confidence.” However, the U.S. State Department is planning a full court press for a third resolution in the Security Council, against Iran.
Sound familiar? How about the lead up to the invasion of Iraq, which was quickly launched when Baghdad announced its intention to allow UN inspectors in to search for nuclear weapons that the Administration said existed and which we now know didn’t?
History sometimes repeats it self as a farce; in this case it threatens a planetary catastrophe.
“World peace is at risk,” said ElBaradei, because of “new crazies who say, ‘let’s go and bomb Iran.’”
A bit more:
It isn’t the first time the Bush administration has fumed over ElBaradei’s actions,” wrote Thomas Omestad in U.S. News and World Report Sept. 7th. “Before the Iraq war, he concluded that he had no evidence to back the U.S. claim that Iraq had reconstituted its nuclear weapons program. (ElBaradei’s conclusion was subsequently borne out by postwar investigation.) The administration initially opposed his renomination as director general of the IAEA, then relented.”
[Eli] Lake wrote in the Sun, “a Bush administration official, who asked to remain anonymous, said the IAEA was in danger of losing its status of being an honest broker in the Iran nuclear standoff. ‘We have committed to the diplomatic route for four years now,’ the official said. ‘The last thing we need is for the director of the IAEA himself to start shielding Iran from diplomatic penalties.’”
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BC also has up a piece from Zogby, a poll sponsored by 911Truth.org:
As America reaches the sixth anniversary of the world-churning events of September 11, 2001, a new Zogby International poll finds a majority of Americans still await a Congressional investigation of President Bush and Vice President Cheney’s actions before, during and after the 9/11 attacks. Over 30% also believe Bush and/or Cheney should immediately be impeached by the House of Representatives.
The 911truth.org–sponsored poll also found that over two-thirds of Americans say the 9/11 Commission should have investigated the still unexplained collapse of the 47-story World Trade Center Building 7 at 5:20 p.m. on September 11, 2001.
WTC 7 housed the mayor’s emergency bunker and offices of the SEC, IRS, CIA and Secret Service and was not hit by any planes but still completely collapsed into its own footprint nearly eight hours after the Twin Tower attacks. FEMA did not explain this collapse, the 911 Commission ignored it, and the promised official study by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) is now 2 years overdue.
Words like Oswald, Ruby, Sirhan Sirhan, the “naming of the names”, roll call of the dead and the ‘’shooters”, come to mind.
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Last, David Swanson has an odd reverie. I understand, at a great distance, where he is coming from. but Gee! does anyone think this is workable… The whole thing strikes me as woefully misplaced.
A top priority for progressives, regarding next year’s presidential election, should be convincing Barack Obama and John Edwards to join forces as a ticket and defeat Hillary Clinton.
Were one of them to drop out, the other would easily take first place in the polls. But neither of them is likely to drop out. As a result, unless they join forces, we will face a choice between a pro-war, pro-corporate Republican and the pro-war, pro-corporate Hillary Clinton. Jeff Cohen recently laid out the case against Clinton.
Together, Obama and Edwards could announce their candidacy as a ticket today, take the lead in the polling tomorrow, and keep it through the primaries. They would also stand a much better chance of defeating a Republican in the general election than would Clinton. She is the designated loser, and what’s frightening (and motivating) is the thought of how awful our future would be even if she were to win. This is a case that ought to be clear to a wide range of progressives. Even if you’re committed to backing whoever the Democratic nominee is, as a progressive you have an interest in making sure it is not Hillary Clinton. And even if you’re fed up with the entire Democratic Party, you can recognize the danger of Clinton becoming the nominee.
Frankly, I just tore my hair out reading it.
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Seems that Margaret Kimberley, at BAR, is the counterpoint to David Swanson:
Not only is November 2008 too late to stop atrocities in the making, but it is clear that even if they are successful, the Democrats will do nothing to turn back the Bush tide. Will they undo the Patriot Act, violations of FISA rules that allowed spying on Americans, or the Military Commissions Act? Will they rebuild New Orleans or empty the jails of non-violent offenders? Recent history proves that they will not. Once the second Clinton presidency is it hand, we will be told to shut up and sit down. We will be told to rejoice that a Democrat is appointing federal judges, and ignore the fact that Guantanamo still holds political prisoners known as enemy combatants.
“Once the second Clinton presidency is it hand, we will be told to shut up and sit down.”
Every major change that took place in the United States came about because of popular demands. However, the odds of successfully mobilizing 21st century Americans are not good. As Chris Floyd writes in Empire Burlesque:
“Dissidents will be marginalized – usually by “the people” themselves. Deprived of historical knowledge by an impoverished educational system designed to produce complacent consumers, not thoughtful citizens, and left ignorant of current events by a media devoted solely to profit, many will internalize the force-fed values of the ruling elite, and act accordingly. There will be little need for overt methods of control.”
The first step in activating those people who are willing to act is to first tell them the bitter truth. Cooperation with the system, including the Democratic party, is a recipe for continued warfare, loss of civil liberties and increased corporate power.
And this… I had heard/read that Patty Murray and Inslee were dispatched by DC Dems to WA to squash a state level call for impeachment, Kimberley makes it clear, McDermott was in on the deal:
He should be joined by the Democratic politicians in Washington state who scuttled a state legislator’s plan to introduce an impeachment resolution. Congressmen Jim McDermott and Jay Inslee (*link Washington) need to join Conyers on the unemployment line and Washingtonian progressives should commit themselves to making that happen. If they don’t, they can look forward to more inaction as the Bush crimes grow worse and worse.
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BAR has a Naomi Klein article - on the Shock Doctrine, free markets, Friedman, Katrina and the wars, the disaster opportunities, the ”strategy of tension” (strategia della tensione) as I call it… I am losing track, having read several of her pieces this week, but think this is a variation on her distillation:
I started researching the free market’s dependence on the power of shock four years ago, during the early days of the occupation of Iraq. I reported from Baghdad on Washington’s failed attempts to follow “shock and awe” with shock therapy – mass privatization, complete free trade, a 15% flat tax, a dramatically downsized government. Afterwards I traveled to Sri Lanka, several months after the devastating 2004 tsunami, and witnessed another version of the same maneuver: foreign investors and international lenders [read: Bush sr and that new son for Bar, Bill Clinton -- Mcat] had teamed up to use the atmosphere of panic to hand the entire beautiful coastline over to entrepreneurs who quickly built large resorts, blocking hundreds of thousands of fishing people from rebuilding their villages. By the time Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, it was clear that this was now the preferred method of advancing corporate goals: using moments of collective trauma to engage in radical social and economic engineering.
Most people who survive a disaster want the opposite of a clean slate: they want to salvage whatever they can and begin repairing what was not destroyed. “When I rebuild the city I feel like I’m rebuilding myself,” said Cassandra Andrews, a resident of New Orleans’ heavily damaged Lower Ninth Ward, as she cleared away debris after the storm. But disaster capitalists have no interest in repairing what once was. In Iraq, Sri Lanka and New Orleans, the process deceptively called “reconstruction” began with finishing the job of the original disaster by erasing what was left of the public sphere.
a bit more:
As I dug deeper into the history of how this market model had swept the globe, I discovered that the idea of exploiting crisis and disaster has been the modus operandi of Friedman’s movement from the very beginning – this fundamentalist form of capitalism has always needed disasters to advance. What was happening in Iraq and New Orleans was not a post-September 11 invention. Rather, these bold experiments in crisis exploitation were the culmination of three decades of strict adherence to the shock doctrine.
Seen through the lens of this doctrine, the past 35 years look very different.
Pushing it, a little more:
In a few short years, the complex has already expanded its market reach from fighting terrorism to international peacekeeping, to municipal policing, to responding to increasingly frequent natural disasters. The ultimate goal for the corporations at the center of the complex is to bring the model of for-profit government, which advances so rapidly in extraordinary circumstances, into the ordinary functioning of the state – in effect, to privatize the government.
In scale, the disaster capitalism complex is on a par with the “emerging market” and IT booms of the 90s. It is dominated by US firms, but is global, with British companies bringing their experience in security cameras, Israeli firms their expertise in building hi-tech fences and walls. Combined with soaring insurance industry profits as well as super profits for the oil industry, the disaster economy may well have saved the world market from the full-blown recession it was facing on the eve of 9/11.
If Naomi has not made it clear… for those with eyes. And I hand it to her, not the same article spread around, she takes a shaft of information and expands it, moves to another shaft for a different article and concentrates there, always building to the whole… Very valuable observer and reporter.
Wish we had more…
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Last, Glen Ford takes an unsparing look at the Congressional Black Caucus, building up to their Lawn Jockey Awards..
The CBC has been rendered a wasteland, in which nothing of substance can occur. Corporate penetration of the Black congressional ranks has rendered the CBC incapable of fulfilling its avowed mission of being the “conscience of the Congress” – a dream that was smothered by an avalanche of corporate cash. A cabal of rightwing, corporate-bought members vetoes any progressive initiatives that emanate from the 42-member Black House delegation, negating progressive politics and leaving no room for anything but vapid celebration of Black faces in high places. That’s what the annual CBC Legislative party-time has become: a promenade of strivers and wannabes with no mission beyond their own private ambitions.
Ford calls them “derelicts”… sure beats Kos calling Artur Davis a great orator.
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Just dropping off this tidbit before I hit the sack: Most think founders wanted Christian USA. The cognitive dissonance found in those poll results really is stunning. NCLB seems to have morphed into No Christian Left Behind.
Its because of the way they teach US history. They focus on the religious people coming over — often not notin that some were just too extreme for the english and the dutch.
they leave out the fact that most everyone came over to make money. A PBS special once refered to colonial settlements as the dotcoms of their day.
then some people moved west to get away from the religuos wackos in new england.
most of the smart guys were deists at best but some where christian as was the norm of there era. and some where hardcore. they expected people would be religous but just didnt want the state being influenced by any paticular religous group. see europe for exapmples of how that tend to play out.
anther reason i dont get the israel support is a theocratic government is really an anthesis of american ideals
Have a piece up at TLC Angels Dancing on the Head of a Pin
Hsuicide Note!!!!!!
From the Very Big File of Very Bad Ideas Whose Time We Hope Shall Never Come:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2956422.ece
Just when you thought things couldn’t get any worse. President Petraeus. Killer asteroid, where art thou?
I’m tinned meat
ST
Clemons at The Washington Note has mentined about Petraeus and the presidency.
WIll see if I can find it, it was the past couple weeks, iirc.
From the thread linked in the last thread… So Heckofanasshole degrades women just like his bro… go figure. My response, just in case it makes the HC:
I think I potted meat product… Fancy that given the topic was Elise.
you listening, marisacat?
LOL They flatter themselves. I have read all of ONE of the useless feminismsssssss diaries. One.
Nor did I follow the link earlier. Dkos and its barnyard animals are predictble on rights, for anyone.
wow, an entire ninja hurricane snuck in past the media under cover of Britney and Westmoreland.
Off to work. Have a good day.
Rev. Yearwood is on Democracy Now this morning (I really am leaving for work … damn you Amy!), crutches in hand.
Naomi Klein’s use of the phrase “for-profit government” says it all. A nice little sound bite for any political entity not on the take. Not that I know of any.
Hagel testy on the Today Show. LOL He called Meredith Vieira “dear”.
re#8 — lucid, I love that comment, how interesting that no one there has rated it or responded to it.
re#11 — MitM, I noticed that too, ‘course Humberto was not quite so stealthy from where I sit!
But at least I’m not in Houston…..not that being in H-town is EVER an attractive option.
Sorry I’ve been scarce around here of late — have been reading but, getting the boys settled into the school routine, cranking out job apps., and dealing with the physical effects of killer allergy attacks for two weeks, the molds here are at record highs (going to doc today), I haven’t felt much like writing!
Hope ya’ll are well — has anyone heard from Tuston?
brinn – no word from Tuston…
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LOL Revisionist, FLH sprinkles his pixie dust on you. In the headline anyway.
Re: the feminizzzzzms thing: lucid, great comment.
The key thing to remember about Elise and the other bleating sheep is that they are not real feminists. They are frauds. I know I say this over and over but it’s true and needs to be recognized. It’s part of a much larger pattern of “pretend progressives”. They dismiss all criticism as too “purist” but that enables them to slide further and further to the right. People like Elise do not support true equality and true progressivism. “Why shouldn’t women be able to choose to live traditional stereotypes?” Well, for the same reason that black people should not be choosing to live traditional stereotypes. The fact is that traditional stereotypes enforce the traditional concept of women/blacks as inferior and limited. The “traditional” stay-at-home wife/mother was good for nothing else. She did that because it was her obligation and she had no rights or opportunities to expand her horizons beyond that. Yes it’s fine to be a stay-at-home wife/mother, I’m one myself, but I’m not a “traditional” one. I have a career outside of that and am involved in many other things that are not traditionally “female”.
Let us not forget that there are forces at work that want to push women back into medieval times. They want to enforce the traditional image of women as “different” and suited to “feminine” pursuits. This concept is antithetical to liberation and equality. While dweebs like Elise babble about which “wave” of feminism they don’t belong to, and waste time distancing themselves from Robin Morgan, Friedan and Dworkin, these forces grow in power and influence.
Lol, Lucid, I think your comment is a little deep for the diarist – so is this the new or the old feminism?
Hi Brinn – glad everything is alright with you. I really do wish Tuston would check in also.
One of our new “allies” in al-Anbar has been assassinated:
On the domestic front, the consequences of BushCo.’s failed policies are glaringly apparent yet again as Hurrican Humberto adds to the misery of people made miserable by Hurricane Rita 2 years ago:
No word on how this might affect New Orleans, where it will presumably rain very heavily. BTW, my sister-in-law (who’s a pediatrician) spent about a week in NO recently, traveling there with a church group trying to resuscitate a couple of neighborhoods. She had to sleep on a church basement floor in Metarie, and walk two blocks to shower and use the toilet in another church. Vast areas are still devastated and either underpopulated or unpopulated, with no running water, gas, electricity, etc. One local thanked them for their efforts, noting that they were the only people to come through and do anything to help them in quite a while.
Pepe Escobar is up at ATimes with a version (pre assasination) of what is happening in Anbar province:
Listening to David Swanson and John Nichols it appears that the impeachment movement is about to be folded into a Stop Hillary candidate in the primaries.
HC
Think you are right.
A prediction I hope don’t turn out to be right about.
Adjusting tinfoil.
That Bush front group that’s coming to DC this Saturday to have a “let our troops win” rally have instructions to start fights with the anti-war marchers.
Cops will be on hand to “stop” these conflicts. Fox News will also be on hand. Some right-wing vet will be “spit” on and it will be filmed. These scuffles will also turn nasty enough to allow the DC Park police to start cracking down on future anti-war protests (as well as to arrest some of the leaders of the anti-war movement on some nasty trumped up charges of conspiracy to start a riot etc.) .
YUMMY!
Tyrell again on Hillary and Norman. Hsu that is.
docudharma announces at PFF.
Might as well be JewishKos:
If the fate of Anbar rests in the life or death of one Sunni leader, that looks like a damn fragile “peace” to me.
Well, “the fate of Anbar” has as much to do with successfully pacifying Iraq as British victories in the Arabian and Mesopotamian theatres had to do with winning the First World War. No matter what Allenby and the other British generals did there, if the Germans had prevailed on the Western Front, the war would have been lost. Even if Petraeus and BushCo. were right about Anbar, it means nothing if Baghdad, Basra, and the areas that lie in between them are in chaos.
BTW, the name of the assassinated Sunni sheik is Abdul Sattar Buzaigh al-Rishawi, which is very similar to the leader referenced in the Pepe Escobar article, Abdul Satter Abu Risha. I don’t know if they’re one and the same person, but the descriptions of them in the two articles also sound very much alike.
hmm I don’t know what ot make of Anbar. A couple threads ago I posted a link to Stan Goff on the meaning of the brokered “deal” in Anbar and the recent visit by Bush (his piece is much more than my snip)…. he sees it as the beginning of the end.
I just don’t know what “end” that might be.
self-damaging type
notice the GIYUS ad at the link posted by undercover….
Trumpeting this “success” in Anbar is part of the Flavor-Of-The-Month approach that BushCo. is taking. Remember when they bragged about the tremendous success Petraeus had made of Tal Afar? They don’t date mention that city these days because the violence there is out of control. They’ve got to find something to keep the war going, and this is just the latest case of releasing propaganda shouting “Victory is within our grasp is only we try a little harder!”
well I don’t think Goff is trumpeting some success.
ATimes posted last year – think it was Pepe, too – on the big meeting of the SUnni sheikhs, will see if I can find it.
undercover/dkosser/KeithMoon/WhateverYourNextAliasWillBe,
Why don’t you just call yourself “moron”? You might as well, because you’re so transparent you don’t do anything except make people laugh at your ineptitude.
….hey, I’m undercover. I don’t think dkos should be controlled by Zionists. Just letting you read what some of the Jewish sites are saying. Guess I can’t post undercover anymore.
another job i did not apply for
#19 – will GWB shed buckets of tears for his now dead new best friend? My guess is, “Sheik who?”
Marie,
This is particularly bad news for BushCo. because they’re probably holding back on announcing fatalities for a few days so as not to offer any counterpoint to Bush’s speech. They did this as well for his recent trip to Anbar. The most recent fatality is said to have taken place on Monday, I would imagine that by Sunday at the latest we’ll see at least a few dead listed for the period 9/11 through 9/13 (the various son et lumiere exercises surrounding the former probably factored into the embargo as well). Of course if a helicopter crash or some such disaster kills a larger number of troops at once that will probably leak out.
i suppose it sucks to be me then. gy god, condemned to hell again due to geographic location.
and you live where now?
You ever have the feeling you’re so transparent no one can even see you? I never have, but someone trying to hurl muck on this site today certainly should, because that’s what’s happened to him.
ZYouth:
…Some are of the self-damaging type (including one with a handle trumpeting it loudly: “jon the antizionist jew”)…
“Self-damaging ?”
It’s true. Jon bites his nails. And I’m shovelling down the treif (leftover shrimp stir-fry) even as we speak. Don’t mince words, you putz. Just say “self-hating.” It’s worked for your elders for years. Why mess with success ?
Oh, it’s a schande for the goyim, all right…
SV: Elise thinks she’s going to be Evita in the New World Order. Or possibly Eleanor of Aquitaine, depending on her tastes in fashion these days.
Queens, Princesses and Royal Consorts don’t need your stinking women’s lib. So back to the kitchen with you. :p
Re Shock and Awe economics.
Possibly the first application of the Shock Doctrine on a national scale was applied post September 11 (1973 that is) in Chile. The privatization of retirement savings certainly preceded the same here in the US,. One can expect that the very poor performance of the system in meeting retirement expectations there will be matched by the same here.
As I watch the value of my retirement savings gyrate with the whims of who-knows-what, I wonder what I’ll be reduced to when I retire..if ever. Oh, and I’m a very cautious and substantial saver. I read carefully and obsessively the fine print of the prospectus; for whatever it’s worth, I also have a Ph D in math and can do financial calculations. Doesn’t do much good, I’m afraid when somebody else is playing with your money. One’s better off being a crook.
This reminds me of a comedy skit that I once on SNL (some guy sings in the metro pleading desperately for money, is given money by a bystander, singer complains it’s only a song, repeat) Here the singer is some incarnation of Milton Friedman singing the praises of the market, and we the fools, are the bystanders that plunk the money in, and are told “Oh but you didn’t assess the risk, and that’s the price you pay for the freedom of the market”. Repeat.
ObamaRama in Iowa yesterday… It’s the war stupid and nothing else.
Thanks I got the church choir refrain: when we end this war in Iraq
When the Pied Piper returns iwth the children.
Wow… it think someone just came up with a new term for the ultimate “sell out” and it is called “Docudharma”
Geez… do they really think that they can redeem Armando, Jay Elias and NightStalkKitty… by hiding up under OPOL hat…????
Very sad state of affairs when the BBBs are now pretending to be the blogs that mock them.
Open Left is a complete flop… more interesting to watch paint dry and MLW and BMT have died ugly and boring deaths.
First there was Mcat… which they ALL read even though they are too afraid to comment … then came PFF and in a few short week blew all of the baby BBBs off the boards… now this “Astro” turf crap… shameful.
I read the list of Budy’s FPers and thought it was a sick joke… might as well add Elise and Luscious Vagina for all the difference it would make from DK.
The only thing that I find amusing about the latest DK spinoff … is that is shows that Mcat’s blog has had an incredible impact on the BBB’s and they are now running scared trying to keep all of the little blogging Indians on the reservation.
My God… to put Armando on another front page is ludicrous… talk about Reality Based…. NOT!!!!
mattes has posted a I/P diary over at docudharma, to see the result.
Interesting sub thread on rules issues who posts etc., in the docudharma announce at PFF.
Telling that Obama doesn’t talk about all the other wars we have brewing. No matter. The next one will have a much more humane stacking of bodies. Since Dems will be running it.
Please tell me that fool doesn’t seriously think we’re going to “mop up” anything in Afghanistan but more of the same. Pathetic.
It’s bullshit.
Even those that are not recognizable are just Dkossers under new names. Straight off they are plugging for DCCC candidates… and cross linking only to “certified” blogs…. like L. Vagina’s new Del blog.
Any blog that puts The Last Hurrah as a favorite is definitely tied, strapped and plugged into the BBB network…. bullshit blog with bullshit comments trying to light a fire under yet another fake “grassroots” endeavor by Kos.
From the mattes diary at docudonot… Turkana and scatcrawler just could not wait.
Damn if I can see anything wrong with mattes’ diary…
I remember Wingless’s excuse was that I/P was a “painful” issue.
Elias says his country has gotten by in the past without any help from the U.S.
I suppose if he’s talking about the Old Testament era, he’s right.
Pathetic!!!
I saw that Jay Elias was chomping at the bit… so Turkana stepped in and squelched “freedom of speech”…. who the hell are they trying to attract??? Dkossers??? Then stay the fuck on DK!
Broken News…
Sounds like the Sen Warner ‘Home for Christmas for a drop in the bucket’ plan.
Which way to Red square, the Kremlin and Lenin’s Tomb…
Perhaps they should give back the billions and billions of dollars in “handouts”… I know some people in New Orleans who could use a handout or two.
What I wanna know is… who the fuck do they think they are kidding?????
D. Throat, the rats are seeking a new ship, but one that resembles the old one as much as possible.
Funny that there are groups like JATO or Jews United For Peace and Justice who could probably teach these folks a little something, if they wanted to learn. (Cough.)
mattes has a hopeful nature. I don’t share it.
Yippee, let’s start a blog!!
Huh?
Brand new Revisionist on Hilariou$… is FPed at Peeders
I wonder if Kos is selling up??? I think that the BBB have reached it’s end… they are bullshit… and have lost all credibility.
Sigh . . .
Elias says his country has gotten by in the past without any help from the U.S.
Without American money, whether from private sources or outright aid from US tax dollars, Israel would never have had a prayer of existing, much less lasting almost 60 years and seizing a lot more than double the territory originally given it.
And if Israel keeps pursuing the same unsuccessful policies w/r/t its neighbors, it won’t last any longer than the Crusader Kingdoms did. In fact at this rate, I’d be surprised if Israel is able to celebrate a 100th anniversary. That’s not something I want to be right about, it seems to me inevitable. They may never be able to come to terms with the Muslim world they live in, but waging perpetual war is a guaranteed recipe for failure.
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HANDOUTS!!!! by the BILLIONS.
Again… who the hell does he think he is kidding????
Thanks, JJB. But I’m not the one who needs convincing.
Well who cares… Kos seems to be mysteriously rolling in dough even though his hits are way down… it is all a farce… sadly Buhdy and OPOL are now part and parcel of this fiasco.
It’s the old DHinMI vs Armando divide.
same old same old. From the docudharma announce at PFF (bold is mine):
Buhdy is pathetic.
One thing I have to say about the BBB and their acolytes is that they are a true mirror of the Democratic Party… Lying crooked bastards… the lot of them. I think I would have still liked the DP if I had not followed these blogs… a real eye opener.
He didn’t even have the balls to write off DH as TLH is on his list of “favorites”.
ROTFLMAO. Buhdydharma is such a moron. Him and his stupid pony pics.
update 30… judge tried to set bail at 50 mill
I saw this on C Rose a few years ago (before I realized that Rose really was a closet neocon). When I saw it then, I thought I had misheard it. Nope.
Disgusting.
Without American money, whether from private sources or outright aid from US tax dollars, Israel would never have had a prayer of existing,
If you really want to know what country Israel most resembles, it’s this one.
http://www.virtualokinawa.com/military/
Buhdy is pathetic.
Since David Swanson and John Nichols seem to have given up on impeachment and seem to be ready to get behind John Edwards, what’s going to happen to all those pro-impeachment diaries on DKOS?
Edwards vs. Hillary flame wars?
Elise thinks she’s going to be Evita in the New World Order. Or possibly Eleanor of Aquitaine, depending on her tastes in fashion these days.
Ruined a perfectly good PJ Harvey song.
I can’t watch this without thinking that blond with the sour look is thinking “but what does all this have to do with electing Democrats”.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8A83JorcLaU
jjb — there were a couple of stories earlier this year about younger generation of germans – late boomers and xers – getting really fed up with being guilted into paying israel for shit that happened before they were even born. they want the payments to stop. the israelis freaked out.
then a few montsh later we have children of holocaust survivors wanting to sue germany for repartaions because they got contact stress from their parents.
then a few montsh later we have children of holocaust survivors wanting to sue germany for repartaions because they got contact stress from their parents.
Moon/Dkosser was arguing yesterday that the USA was as morally complicit in the art of dispossing brown people as Israel is.
Oddly enough, I agree with Mr. Moon here.
But let’s throw a twist into this argument.
If the USA is guilty of genocide and slavery, then isn’t the USA just like Germany?
And if Germany needs to pay reparations to Jews, then don’t Americans (including “Manhttan boy” Keith Moon) have to pay reperations to blacks for slavery?
Now we can compare slavery to the Holocaust if we want. The Holocaust was a more intense genocide lasting under a decade.
Slavery was almost as intense and it lasted from 1607 to 1865 and then in the form of Jim Crow from 1865 to 1964.
So where are the reperations for slavery?
HC
an awful lot of Obama in the Swanson swirl, too.
What a mistake.
I remmeber months ago I used a 57 cadillac de ville to typify the Edwardses, it was just a joke, but frankly they do make me think of the 50s.
Hell so does Obama. The go along sort.
Save us… spare us. UNACCEPTABLE.
To add to that, if Martians visited the USA and learned that there was a major holocaust memorial on the Capitol Mall and also learned about:
1.) The Holocaust (which Americans had nothing to do with)
2.) Slavery (which Americans carried out themselves)
and they found out that the Genocide memorial on the Capitol Mall was dedicated to something Americans didn’t do instead of something they did do wouldn’t they conclude this?
American guilt over the Holocaust is a self-serving feel good exercise in self-delusion that allows them to escape responsiblity for their own history and justify their oil stealing in the Middle East.
Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki is now routinely refusing to meet US Congressional delegations on fact-finding missions in Iraq, according to US Senator Ben Nelson (D-Nebraska), who characterized Maliki’s decision as a “mistake.” Nelson, who will be part of a Congressional delegation visiting Iraq in the coming days, told CNN today that the group is going to Baghdad to “find out what is happening with the Maliki government.” Nelson said “Maliki himself is not taking any meetings with Congressional delegations…
an awful lot of Obama in the Swanson swirl.
John Nichols was being sneaky about it on Democracy Now. He first brings up Richardson and Kucinich as viable anti-war candidates (it seems Richardson the world’s whitest Mexican is now for immediate withdrawl) then adds that Edwards and Obama are halfway there but not there yet.
Then he goes on to criticize Edwards for only being halfway their (implicitly arguing of course that “we” should push him).
I actually respect John Nichols and Swanson. I think they’re both good people who have worked their asses off for impeachment.
But sorry, I can’t follow them into the Edwards campaign.
#59–JJB–actually, Israel didn’t receive a substantial amount of aid from the US in its early years, although of course it was the American government that gave its blessing to the establishment of Israel.
Israel’s main patron in its early decades (1950s and early 1960s) was France, not the United States.
The shift to full-fledged US support for Israel came during LBJ’s administration, and has now transmuted into a fetishism that has warped American foreign policy outside the limits of rational self-interest.
I couldnt find the link…. but there were also some youger german police who caused a stir because they refused to attend a holocaust seminar as part of their training saying it was outdated, irrelevant and designed solely to make them feel guilty for something they had no part in that took place 30 years before they were born.
SV, Buhdy has fallen for NPK’s dual personality. She is schitzo, or just rides whatever fence she feels will benefit her. DK is not going to give her a FP. Not enough titsnass from her. She got the bullying down pat, but she just wasn’t accepted into the club. She went after Buhdy fiecely when it was the thing to do on DK, but he survived. Same exact MO with Opol. But he survived also. So she changes position again. Had they been banned, she’d be troll-rating anyone who mentioned their names.
I don’t see Marisacat on the blogroll, but I will mention it to Buhdy, nor do I see Pff there. I asked him if his blog was given Kos’ blessing, if it was a place for Kossacks to let off steam about the Democrats, but still hold onto them. If you didn’t see it already, here is his answer:
HC, no disrespect intended to Ms. Harvey.
It’s just that given Elise G. Harding’s own worship of vapidity and clothes, I’m convinced that she has a rather strong princess complex, which is understandable when a girl is ten but no so much in adulthood. Royalty, at any rate, receives what it requires by divine right, and hence has no need for something icky like, you know, real feminism that has some substance to it.
She is a good study, however. Note her gloating belief that the residents of this blog “have no place else to go.” That’s exactly what her patrons in the DP say about anyone to the Left of Hillary or the other Soups Du Jour in the larger political sphere. You have no place else to go. May the little Princess rise up far with the attitude that got bona-fide American royalty where it is today. She can always blame Mcat or the wrong color ensemble when it doesn’t work out to her satisfaction. :p
well he admits the site makes over 300K a year
“will spend over $300,000 of site revenues supporting the program”
The shift to full-fledged US support for Israel came during LBJ’s administration,
Not coincidentally while the US military was bogged down in Vietnam and “we” needed a client in the region.
Note her gloating belief that the residents of this blog “have no place else to go.”
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jZEXYFQZzGI
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that figure is low. mediagirl did the Dkos numbers from advertising 2 years ago, 600k +
NO ONE disputed it. If they wanted to, then was the time.
a defunk R site, Donkey Cons, later put it at 850k… now remember there was time he had more substantial advertising then he has had for months. (Should state here I have not looked at the FP in weeks).
Later I read in a trade pub he had crested over 1 M in advert dough/annum.
Now is there some “plumping” going on in his numbers, well sure.
But at the site they have always poor mouthed. During pie they claimed that was a 750/wk ad. At that time it was well over 2k/week.
So wile there advertising has been thin for months, it did used to be better.. and his income from ads was not insubstantial.
BTW, TPM has had higher ad rates then kos for a while.
Also some time ago Dkos began to make it hard to get to his advertising page on BlogAds with his rates. I remember having to search around to get it. No longer a direct link straight to it.
So I don’t know his ad rates for say the last 6, 8 months. Because I did not bother… plus his ads surely did drop off…
BTW, TPM has had higher ad rates then kos for a while.
Ah Fitzmas. It was good for something after all.
he implies that Miss McSusaninMD are paid close 100K. Hell I would cut and paste for 30K
HC
Fitzmas… I had not thought of that. You are likely right. And Josh, being the credentialed reporter with columns at other high profile sites, like the Hill, got the benefit. Certainly it did not seem that FDL saw a swell of any sort.
Not that I am crying for them, mind you…
he implies that Miss McSusaninMD are paid close 100K. — Rev
Nutty as a fucking fruitcake.
What a joke.
This Debat dude seems to be Glass, Jason Blair and Cooke all rolled into one and on the TV Raw Story.
I do so much enjoy stories about con-artists – and least the kind not in positions of power in the government or any institution. Always so interesting that they can pull them off so easily. Only unanswered question is if he was also on the payroll of the CIA/FBI/DOD/WH.
Re: McSusan – billmon is worth at least 100K. The rest of them should be paid by the word (a penny?) and nothing for the words in the cut and paste. On second thought, a penny might be on the high side.
Who does Kos think he is? Hearst? (Caught a glimpse of his triumphal entry at yearly Kos – and you are all correct, he looks like a low rent huckster.)
Mr. Escobar is essential reading in these dark times. Thanks for the link.
Yet, from the earliest days of this debacle all we’ve ever had to do was click our heels three times to be transported home.
I think you have to douse the wicked witch first.
My guess is, “Sheik who?”
I’m betting he’s making jokes more in the line of:
“Hey, what does AQinI like for dinner?”
“Sheik and bake!”
#81 Ms. Xeno–
I’ll be more impressed with Princess Elise when she’s employed.
I’ll be more impressed with Princess Elise when she’s employed.
As soon as the Democrats take the White House, she’ll magically luck into a job as the Donatella Moss of the Hillary regime.
And Jane Hamsher can be CJ Cregg. And Kos can be Sam Seaborn and Atrios can be Josh Lyman and everybody gets a job in Washington and it will be all just like the Clinton 90s again except this time we’ll be in power and we’re never going to let that mean right-wing noise machine give us shit about a blow job again.
And hell, even David Brock’s on our side this time. Woo Hoo.
If you really want to know what country Israel most resembles, it’s this one.
Except the Okinawans didn’t ask for it, unlike the Zionists, who were only too eager. I’m reading Blowback finally, and the chapter on Okinawa is horrifying.
And the ONLY thing that can mess up our plans are those purity trolls who are hung up about little things like the war in Iraq and the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act.
Nerds. Geeks. Misfits. Get over it.
Shadowthief, no. 78,
I’m well aware of that, however I mentioned private funds from the US as being essential to Israel’s existence, both now and from the very beginning. And I think we can assume that this country was giving Israel a lot of under the table financial and material support through all sorts of channels, including aid that was supposedly coming from France. After all, the French couldn’t afford to pay for their war in Indochina or much of anything else, we were picking up at least 80% of the tab for that by 1953 at the latest.
For all that, they attacked the USS Liberty and killed dozens of US sailors.
Re: DailyKos ad revenues.
Nobody knows, except by back-of-the-envelope calculations, because Moulitsas favours a level of secrecy regarding his finances that would do Dick Cheney proud.
However, we have some clue that not all is well in Kostopia:
First, Peeder’s caution after he left his position as a contracting programmer for DailyKos that the business model was not sustainable and that Kos was “burning through cash” with his own software development, etc.
Second, ads are going unsold, and it’s quite possible that Kos NEVER or rarely sold ads at the publicised rate. In other words, ask $9,000 a week for an advert but settle for $5,000. Negotiating advertising rates is a common practise, I’m told.
But I’ve long suspected that Kosolini gets a good deal of his money Armstrong Williams style: “pay for play”, in which certain Democratic Party sugar daddies pay Kos to see to it that certain issues and certain candidates get tended to. That Kosolini is dependent on those sources would certainly explain a great deal, if not everything, about the way he has conducted his business.
The most important thing to remember is DailyKos is NOT a movement nor is it the vehicle for anything but making a profit. DailyKos is a business, a capitalist enterprise first and foremost (either that, or a heavily subsidised propaganda outlet and ideological cattle chute for the blogging proles)–and all that is bad about it flows from that.
I think we are comparable to Germany, , HCfM, only we built an entire economy on exploitation and slaughter:
Black Holocaust Museum
And which “big donors” would that be?
He hands over 300k to just a handful of people and he’s still panhandling? Geez. He needs to figure out his ROI cuz it sure isn’t worth that much money.
“I couldnt find the link…. but there were also some youger german police who caused a stir because they refused to attend a holocaust seminar as part of their training saying it was outdated, irrelevant and designed solely to make them feel guilty for something they had no part in that took place 30 years before they were born.”
30 years! ohmigod, that’s like totally ancient history. and it could never happen again anywhere, nevermind that holocaust survivor who spoke at a darfur rally i attended and couldn’t believe the world was sitting still for the genocide there.
hopefully american students will rise up to squash outdated us history of slavery and women’s rights.
Oh, and not to dominate the thread with Kossola, but….
Back when Kos was still answering questions from peasants, I asked him point-blank if he accepted money from private donors (aka “sugar daddies”) or from candidates that he did not disclose.
Kos’ lawyerly answer was that he was NOT a political consultant.
My reply was that I did NOT ask if he was a consultant; I asked if he took money from campaigns or from Democratic Party patrons to support his fabulous lifestyle and fuel his blog–in other words, was he being paid to blog, not to consult?
Kos replied that he had already answered my question, etc.
And you know, I think he did. Some times an answer is not only what is said, but what is NOT said.
What Kos did NOT say and has never said, to my knowledge, is this:
I am not accepting, and have never accepted, payments from any individual or organisation to support my blogging. I am not accepting, and have never accepted, payments from any candidate or a candidate’s supporter(s) to influence my blogging.
And everybody who dares to ask him the question has been banished from his view.
Btw Catnip, hope you’re on the mend
And Kos can be Sam Seaborn
How dare you insult (the handsome and talented) Rob Lowe like that!?
mcat is your email your name at aol?
Btw Catnip, hope you’re on the mend
Thanks. I manage to crawl out of bed for a few hours a day in which I then transpose my crankiness to the online venues.
You should be at DailyKos, then. Be sure to sneeze on a few of the Kops for us.
I listened to Harry Reid give this whiny list of excuses for doing nothing on NPR tonight (sadly, the link has the wrong audio associated with it). Talked about how people don’t understand how the Donks are actually a minority in the Senate, what with Holy Joe selling out all the time (though Reid pushed that Lieberzionist stood with the Donks on ‘the majority of issues’ [paraphrasing]) on Iraq w/ the Republicans. Hell, since Tim Johnson got sick, the Republicans had a majority on Iraq of 50/49!!
Damn good thing he’s such a “fighter”.
canned, spammed and packed in jelly.
It’s not crankiness catnip! Like all good herbs, you add SPICE to the many tubes of the internets!
Oh, and HI BRINN (and Bay too)!!
BTW, if you watched Amy Goodman today, you saw the report on the huge event here in Milwaukee. Sadly, given the ownership of the local media by wingers, there was only this small, sad little story in the local paper, and believe me, it wasn’t highlighted.
I LIVE here, and I had no idea how big the turnout was until I saw it on Democracy Now.
talex has gone off the reservation.
LOL
SURE, protesting a war is EXACTLY the same as a bunch of wackjob homophobes!
THIS is taking cosplay one step too far!
Rev. Yearwood Discusses Capitol Arrest
Revisionist
YES… Marisacat at aol dot com
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Moderation snagging “c”
2 from catnip … and
one from cad rescued.
Off to get Madman from Spam (sorry! to all)
John Cole
The left SHOULD be burning cars in the street, but we all know the cops would deal with that MUCH more harshly than they would blowing up, say, abortion clinics and gay nightclubs in “protest”, not to mention trying to enter a Senate hearing room w/ a lot of melanin in one’s skin.
Of course, angry leftists are ignoreded, abused by police with impunity, locked up in “free speech zones” by BOTH/THE political party(s).
Gonna take a meltdown.
Breaking news:
About the new blog. Though I feel I would be compromising my integrity if I talked about it, I will say that I was invited to be an FP contributor, among other things, back in February. I was involved in discussions for about a month & then decided it was not for me when I learned a number of things.
Best of luck to them. But I don’t see it as being any different from Dkos.
so…
is Juan Cole still advising the Democrats?
Cuz you gotta wonder.
I assume Krugman is, I had high hopes when Howell Raines brought him in, esp as his area of focus, just his own within economy and teaching, was boom and bust economies.. and that sure is our malady. And our addiction.
AND the ME… and war… and a few other things.
George W. Nixon is just starting his
speechlying …how far we’ve fallen.
Kucinich sticks to his principles.
MitM – I can’t even bear to watch it… I got to the ‘the local population was suffering under the Taliban like rule of Al queda and asked us for help’ line and almost threw the remote through the television… Switched over to ‘The Cooler’ on IFC… nothing on tonight [and I don't think I can handle watching the injured soldier doc on HBO]… time to make some dinner.
I knew this:
BTD quit, he didn’t get banned
I mean, if you don’t know that, you also probably don’t know that Stalin didn’t have Trotsky murdered, the latter committed suicide and the only thing he could find to do it with was that pickaxe, and he smashed it into the back of his skull because he also had an itch back there and figured he’d skill two birds with one stone while killing himself with the mountain-climbing tool.
Oil topped the $80 a barrel mark today. Fortunately, I bought a few barrels last week at a far lower price, and the home refinery I got for a song (Hoagy Carmichael’s “Stardust,” if you must know) on Ebay will enable me to run my car on gas much cheaper than that available to the average consumer for the next few months. So I won’t be suffering from any Pump Shock anytime soon!
lucid
I don’t know why I’m torturing myself. I guess it’s like seeing a car crash, or watching a loved one taking his last breath. I don’t know. I guess I like to know/see what the so-called opposition party WON’T stand up to, the pathetic bullying paper tiger who has shredded the last illusions of the promise of the so-called American dream.
A third of this nation still support a draft-dodging, lying, drunkard cokehead who thinks the law doesn’t apply to him, and the rest of the ruling class is eager to prove him right. I guess I feel an obligation to pay witness … I’ve been looking away from so much lately, out of exhaustion with the whole mess, out of grief, out of shame … I guess I feel I have to at least watch these little touchstones, these moments when Dear Leader steps before the bright lights to reinforce his regime.
I watch him, watch the kabuki theater of him “accepting” the recommendations of the sullied honor of an officer who parroted the words of his dictator, and know that the lie in “all men are created equal” proclaimed by a group of men who owned slaves has finally been made fully manifest, that any pretense of some hope of progress and decency and actual progressive embracing of the future has been fully abandoned.
It’s like watching a public execution, another headman chopping off another dream at the neck.
I’m looking away much of the time these days … but sometimes I just can’t.
President Strawman rides again.
Si, se puede!
Proud prudes of America
According to the news, George W. Bush will accept the recommendations of General Petraeus! They lie with impunity.
Re Kos ‘Armando wasn’t banned’ – so Armando is a liar?
I was glad to see this question, someone else remembered what he said in the past about subscriptions. I do remember well, kos dismissing the ‘community’ donations. Airc, he said that people should not buy the subscriptions and turn off the ads because that would affect his ad revenue. So now he doesn’t care about that! The man changes his mind on just about everything so fast, it’s just impossible to keep up.
Changed his mind about subscriptions, and changed his mind about whether or not Armando was banned. I wonder what Armando will say, since he has insisted he was banned, many times. I suppose in order to bring him back without facing a rebellion over all the others who were banned, it’s better to say he was not banned.
Lucid, I can’t watch Bush either. I got over that for a while, but just can’t listen to him lie tonight. Too exhausted from all the lies they told this week, and the knowledge that he will get what he asks for. H
Re the other site, I had seen a discussion about it on TL about a month ago. Btd asked when it was starting up. First I had heard of it. But I always wondered why they didn’t start their own site, those with a big following who were getting a lot of crap from the troll patrol.
huckabee gets scarier by the day
wow I’m old, Marc Bolan died 30 years ago this coming Sunday.
Children Of The Revolution
Huckabee is gonna be the nominee, if it isn’t Romney (and I don’t see the wingers voting for a Mormon), so you better get used to him.
brian willians said bush mentioned 3 bases at the pre speech lunch all the reporters go to but cant talk about
the media likes Huckabee…
Yeah I so want a Babtist minister in the WH. vs some fake, but right wing, Methodist nun
SB – apparently there had been talk of it for quite a while within certain circles. Formal planning & recruiting started in February.
What’s with the John Edwards infomercial?
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they hardly talk about the ones they CAN go to.
I nearly keeled over the side of the bed and upchucked, one am on Wash Journal (so 4 am here) the father of a dead soldier was just back from Iraq (he supports The Great Effort)… and almost licked his chops talking about the food line at one of the big bases, like Camp Victory.
He said his choice was lobster or standing rib roast.
His son was DEAD.
putrid people.
sorry im watching msnbc… huck was on talking about honor and what not… he sold it better than bush did.. biden was on the other side.. did a decent job… msnbc is — aside from brian williams — is saying the presdent is nuts and is hunkering in
oh you know wanting ArmandoFernandoBigTentoramapoiuynick and whoever else he has been, required extensive discussion. MONTHS of online meetings… catered luncheons.. ohone calls, emails, details, boundaries…
etc.
I see Jay Elias has a personal manifesto up.
I did not open it…
LOL
Keith O wonders why Ewdards spent on that money on an ad when he could have come on come on any of the news nets for free
MitM: Comment motivated by two of your posts 126 & 129.
One of the things that really upset me about the use of language on dkos (and many of the liberal blogs such as MLW) was the (in my view) reactionary use of sexual language. One of the offensive terms is “whore”: in my opinion, progressives should not use that word, since most women turn to prostitution out of economic necessity and even if they freely chose it (as Belle de Jour makes us want to believe) it denigrates women. The other term that is much dragged through the gutter by almost everybody is masturbation. This or that activity is referred to as “masturbation” because supposedly, it is ineffectual or self indulgent. This is a particularly serious misuse of language because it questions the sexuality of adolescents who go through periods of experimentation and confusion
Instead of considering masturbation as something to be avoided, we should seriously propose it as a healthier alternative than listening to Bush, which is more like self-flagellation, definitely not good for one’s health (or reading some of the posts on Dkos for that matter). I really believe Clinton blew it when he fired Jocelyn Elders as Surgeon General. I would be better off following this advice myself.
Please forgive me if these comments are too outrageous (or in fact a bit odd) I don’t mean to be preachy but why should we torture ourselves?
114, MitM: Well of course many so-called “leftists/liberals/progressives” hate Code Pink even more than they hate Phelps et al. because secretly they’re homophobes too, and the spectacle of angry screaming women makes their testicles disappear.
120, lucid: you chose right
I have to say that “Docudharma” banner logo is truly hideous and ill-conceived.
Oh, I see what you mean, CSTAR. Good points all (though I have to admit that I chuckled when you used “blew it” and “Clinton” in the same sentence, but I am a child of my culture).
Our whole culture is about denying our WHOLE nature, especially our sexual natures. It’s sick and life-denying.
Anyway, I watch Bush, I watch TV, because I think I can’t understand what is going on, or argue against it, unless I experience it. I am OF this culture. I love violent movies, I play violent video games, I embrace violent stories … because I recognize that it is part of who I am, and Bush is a reflection of my culture, my upbringing, part of what made me who I am. It is, however, MY choice of how to respond to the monstrosity that is our current course … I would never tell others that they should react as I do.
I am a humanist. I think we would be better served if we absorbed, looked at, embraced human behavior in ALL of its forms (no matter how disturbing) … if we confront that we create our selves, create our values, create our environments … it’s what we are. We are, in a sense, gods (small “g”) … we invent value and warp the environment. The fact that we fob this fact, this RESPONSIBILITY, off on imaginary friends reflects poorly on us.
Bush (and Reagan and Nixon before him) are part an parcel of American social development, they are the natural outcome of a culture that grew upon self-serving lies.
I watched him b/c I feel an obligation to look in the mirror from time to time. I perfectly understand that other people wouldn’t.
Some businessman:
Cluelessness abounds.
MitM
Oops, blew it, yeah I missed that one.
I simply can’t listen to Bush (or Cheney or Ohlmert etc). For me it’s too self-destructive leading to bouts of rage. And though I would like to do something to avoid the cataclysm that I see coming, I need to first find a way of controlling my rage. That state of wisdom eludes me.
CSTAR,
I don’t have a problem with using a phrase like “mental masturbation” ie, someone pontificating intellectually so they can get their jollies off. Happens all the time and I don’t believe it denigrates the practice of masturbation.
And, afaic, “attention whores” can be members if either sex as can “political whores” – those who choose to sell themselves to the highest bidder. That’s not a reflection of the problems inherent with prostitution in broader society (drug addiction, poverty etc). I’m talking about people who knowingly make the choice to set themselves up as pawns for some greater cause because they’ve decided the payoff is worth more than their integrity – like Rove, for example.
After I watch, I cheer myself up with Johnny Cash and songs like this Dixie Chicks song.
134, MCat: lobster or standing rib roast
That reminds me of the scene from that remake of On the Beach in which the sub captain (Armand Assante) orders that his cooks break out the filet mignon and beer and put on a big party for his doomed crew.
Yeah, the world is coming to an end and we’re trying to outrun a massive radiation cloud, so let’s party!
Actually it’s not such a bad idea.
Speaking of food, I ran across this great food/recipe blog the other day : The Old Foodie.
Bush upsets me less than the donks … getting mad at him is like raging at the tiger as it sinks its teeth into your neck. He and his people are my enemy, they are predators, dangerous to what I hold dear. What upsets me is fakes who claim to stand with me as they do nothing, no matter what tools are handed to them.
I am far more likely to go into a rage when watching Biden or Clinton or Reid … Bush I expect to do evil and nasty things, but the fact that I have little or no institutional outlet for resistance to his evil because of people like them makes me want to hit something.
MitM
Intellectually, you’re right. But maybe I’m too primordial. I still get mad at the tiger. Americans that know me call it my “latin temperament”; what that trait has to do with latin beats me (other than some association with Ricky Ricardo in I Love Lucy, who apparently was pretty volatile); in my opinion, it’s the part of my temperament which is most unlatin.
ugh unfortunately I was able to listen to Bush with more ease than Jack Reed.
gah. my mind drifted and admittedly I was cleaning up cat spittle (mostly water)… but for Reed’s sake (not that it matters) the synopsis from Russert, WIlliams and “Stretch” was deadly:
The Dems want to change the war, but don’t know how, short of shutting DC and blocking the funds.
uh… and that would be so wrong? Can’t stop the lobster to forward operating bases.
[I do agree about 'blow it to the winds' when you know the screw is fully in. As SIlber says, he plans to fuck wildly and drink...
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Well, CSTAR, I’m not not latin, and it is for the same reason that most of the time I have to avoid watching Bush. It was much worse after he ‘won’ the 2004 election though. I thought maybe I needed therapy or something. I was afraid to even flip the channels in case I might catch a glimpse of him, or hear his gloating voice. ‘I have political capital and I intend to use it’! And his admonition to reporters ‘you get ONE question, got it? No follow-ups’! I swear, I hate violence but I was seriously worried about how I felt the day after they handed him another election.
I felt a lot better when other normally perfectly rational people told me they felt the same way, some even cancelling their cable subscriptions to avoid even the possibility of seeing him. I can handle it better now, partly because he doesn’t look so smug anymore. But, I agree with you if there’s a choice, masturbation definitely is way more appealing.
I do understand Mitm. And give you much credit. Someone has to do it and we do need to know what he’s saying.
151, Madman: I am far more likely to go into a rage when watching Biden or Clinton or Reid … Bush I expect to do evil and nasty things
Absolutely. It’s like the way Red Sox fans hate the Yankees but become truly enraged about their own players, guys like Mike Torrez and Bill Buckner, who happened to be instrumental in their losing. Of course Torrez, Buckner et al were not doing anything evil or nasty, they were trying to do their level best and the breaks went against them. The same cannot be said for the Democrats.
#149 MitM — thank you, thank you. I adore the Dixie Chicks and “Not Ready to Make Nice” makes me feel alive. Those three threw it all away to be real and not for one minute considered backing down or splitting up. God, it’s inspiring to see that adversity can lead to a creative breakthrough and success.