La Louche isn’t running 26 January 2008
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.trackback

…for anything — and thus need not give up smoking, nor any other vices …
Nevertheless, she is happy to volunteer to hold up a thread…..
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It seems appopriate…
Patti’s great. A non-machine New Yorker for sure.
hmmm Rich sorta scraped back into my good graces… some truths here… tho I would actively dispute what Rich seems to believe, that obama is greater than the party. Ha! he would not be permitted this far if he were….
Her birthday show on Dec. 30 this year, she played for 3 hours. She’s 62. It was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen. She started with a long poetry inflected version of ‘Are You Experienced’, and ended with a version of ‘Rock ‘n Roll Nigger’ complete with a lecture about how the song is not offensive, but a revoltionary song.
She’s been my fav live artist since 2002.
I saw her, think it was ’78 here at the old Winterland … absolutely incredible.
Winterland had been built in the 30s for fights… the walls are (or were, torn down for condos… ) 3 ft thick, conrete. Bands and audiences could just go to town.
The UK papers are interesting.. and the Independent is just LOL HARSH:
the party needs him to stop whining about the Clintons’ attacks,
Not just the party. I would appreciate it if he’d stop whining and get on with it (whatever the meaning of “it” is).
Fierstein in VF swipes at Bill…
deeelish.
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oh yeah no question, he needs to stiffen up.
And stand up, in ways he has not.
Good luck, distribute weapons… stand back, hope for good aim on all sides.
Well, I assume that the pic of Billary with Rezko was leaked by the Obama camp, so maybe he’s learning.
I’m so jealous that you saw Patti back then, at the Winterland, no less.
Suharto’s dead.
Oh those wacky Iranians: Iranian Foreign Minister praises U.S. moves in Iraq
No wonder – with al Maliki being so buddy buddy with Iran lately.
I missed this news on Saturday (unless it’s just coming out now): Blasts Hit Baghdad, Including Green Zone
Not to worry. The so-called surge is obviously working. (pffft)
Should I clap or sing a Hosanna chorus? I’m not quite sure what’s appropriate anymore.
Not to worry. The so-called surge is obviously working.
REALLY not to worry. The News Hour had a long long segment today on how improved things are in Baghdad. People have money to spend in the street markets and are enjoying the safety that now prevails. An “Iraqi on the street” said it gets better every month.
Ignore any reports to the contrary.
Patti now, I think is even better. While I would have loved to see her in ’78, her voice is better now, she literally channels Fred now in every performance. Yet she is the most gracious I’ve ever seen. It’s like combining MC5, with good musicians, a fantastic vocalist and poet out front, and a little old lady.
If there is anyone I want to meet before I [or they] die, Patti is the top of the list.
I KNOW what is lacking in this campaign… shouldn’t sombody be interviewing Toni Morrison?
About her bud Bill? And Maya Angelou?
maybe run some of that old film of Girls Lunches (oh high minded, about BOOKS!) they both had with Oprah and soft squishy talk about Bill?
hmmm?
Sorry I hated all that shit then… and really dislike it NOW, in retrospect.
Bill Clinton reminds me of the typical coming of age story experienced by most Blacks in the US.
It starts out as a happy friendship between a black kid and a white kid… but some where down the road if the black is perceived to “get ahead” or have an advantage… the recessive white superiority gene kicks in… and the white kid eventually hauls off and calls the black kid a Nigger.
This scenario has happened in numerous of times… to countless of Blacks… I do believe the South Carolinians saw the Clintons for who they really are… not just voting for the Black Guy. As many time Bill had Jesse come in to save his ass… he turned around and used Jess’s own name as a racial slur to provoke white fear in the south.
Bill’s white supremacy gene is working overtime… that I guess he truly believes that the dog whistles he has been sending out to white could not be heard by blacks… or even worse that Blacks would “get in line” anyways once Hilliary wins the nominations… cuz he is the master.
What is also very clear from SC is that Hilliary will NOT be able to hold the south from McCain… which means that the Clinton triangulation and push to the right will go over time.
The majority of Democrats in the south are Blacks and women. Combine this with the now 4 year old 50 State strategy where the DNC has diligently increased the Dem voter rolls to historic highs in all of the southern states makes for an interesting contest where … the Dems will actually be competitive due to sheer numbers.
This is the real story coming out of SC … Obama had more votes than the top GOP candidates combined.
Billary shot themselves in the foot in the south (ie Black voters) there are now huge numbers of registered voters on the Dem side (thanks to the DNC) that it is no longer necessary to beg for scraps in the “center” which really was always the right wing.
Things are getting curiouser and curiouser…
there are now huge numbers of registered voters on the Dem side (thanks to the DNC) that it is no longer necessary to beg for scraps in the “center” which really was always the right wing.
Well — can’t tell that from how Barack runs. He runs center/center right.
I think that FL, in some ways as it is a truncated run, and CA will be instructive. NV was not a good picture of what might be coming.
Perhaps… but Clinton is not only running to the right but also doing a “Sista soulja” smack down of Black voters.
Should I clap or sing a Hosanna chorus? I’m not quite sure what’s appropriate anymore.
Why not just mention how much money his cronies gave the Clintons?
http://www.zmag.org/zmag/articles/jan98good.htm
In November 1994, President Clinton was going to Indonesia for APEC, the Asian Pacific Economic Cooperation Summit. And he was going to meet with Suharto and other Asian-Pacific leaders. This was the biggest moment for Indonesia in Suharto’s 30-year history. The world spotlight would be on him. They cleaned the streets about a month before APEC. Meaning, Suharto’s military went through the streets of Jakarta in a big military hardware show, threatening everyone, saying if you dare to hold a demonstration this is what will happen to you. It was very blatant. They called it Operation Cleanup. We now know that when Clinton went to Indonesia he was meeting with his campaign contributors, James Riatti and others.
I’m not sure why Don Black’s giving 500 bucks to Ron Paul is worse than this but I’m sure Kestrel9000 or someone can tell me.
Pretty funny exchane between Amy Goodman and Michael Stipe in that article.
He said, “Hi, what is your name?”
I told him and asked, “What is your name?”
He replied, “Michael Stipe.”
I said, “Oh, are you an assistant to Richie Haven?”
He said, “No, I have my own little band [REM].”
I didn’t realize who he was until I called my brother to say I wasn’t coming to see him right now. My brother responded, “That’s okay, who’s there?”
I told him “All kinds of people. Richie Havens, and this guy, he says he has his own band, Mike Stipe.”
He said, “I’ll be there in ten minutes.”
hmmm mmmm not to be missed. left i on the news on that famous Reno Gazette interview…. links to the full hour audio, among other things:
and just making sure he’s ready too on day one, cuz you know what bidness we are in:
Amos. The original self-hating Jew.
http://www.rogouski.com/2008/01/amos-the-original-self-hating.html
Uh-oh.comment in sHillizza. More incoming there too.
Heath Ledger with an accordion. I knew there was a reason I liked the guy. (blonds aren’t usually my thing, however good-looking they may be.)
I agree with Frank Rich. If it’s Hillary vs. McCain, McCain edges her out in the general election.
If it’s McCain vs. Obama, nobody really has any idea what’s going to happen. We’ll be in uncharted territory.
LOL I’d suggest that Obama run with a serious older pro war militarist Republican as his VeeperGreeter,
LOL Cancel McCain out. It’s clear he has thought of it.
Shorter Frank Rich on Obama this Sunday:
“Oh gird thyself in armor and take up thy shield Oh Brave Knight Barack and set forth to slay the two headed dragon Bill and Hillary. Fear not their foul breath or the fire that they breath for thou art my appointed champion. I wil give thee words, Mark Rich, Clinton Library, Saudis that will aid thee in they trials but if thou are not thou strong, we shall all perish at the hands of the enemy’s champion McCain”.
SF Chron endorsement:
He also got Phildelphia Inquirer, St Louis Post Dispatch… and one other, overnight, that I cannot think of…
Donna Brazille on This Week roundtable sez “there was no street money out there . . . people were showing up [to vote Obama] because they want to.”
All-cap headline under the talking heads: “BILLARY BACKFIRE?”
Earlier, fairly low-key Obama deflected Stephanopolous question – “was Bill playing racial politics” with Jesse Jackson remark? O made vague, noncommittal noises about Bill’s “frame of reference” with Jackson’s historical campaigns, but “some people in South Carolina” heard that differently.
Steph played Obama/Reagan clip, and O recast comparison as about opportunity for “seismic shift,” etc. Steph went back to Bill, Bill, Bill . . . then Rezko . . . O said all had been disclosed.
And so it begins. Dhonig at the Daily Kos reminds us all that Obama used to have dinner with dirty fucking Arabs.
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/27/75917/4913/396/444051
33 – Aha – Seattle Times endorsement.
HC,
That diary implies Obama is trying to be all things to all people.
I’m shocked! Shocked, I say!
That diary implies Obama is trying to be all things to all people.
Yeah but the real purpose is to start spreading the “Obama met with Edward Said” meme going into the New York primary.
I wil give thee words, Mark Rich, Clinton Library, Saudis that will aid thee in they trials but if thou are not thou strong, we shall all perish at the hands of the enemy’s champion McCain”.
Good one.
The lock-jawed foe is on with Pumpkinhead now.
For saith I Frank Rich priest at the high temple of Manhattan liberalism that unless the champion Obama slay the two headed dragon, we will perish at the hands of the champion McCain, McCain who hath been tested in the dungeons of Hanoi and tempered into a fine steel by Rovian beast in the fields of South Carolina, yeah that same McCain who will tempt thy sons with his heroism on the field of battle and thy daughters with the moderation of his pagan views.
If McCain is a pagan, Hair Club, does that make Romney the Pope?
Any tempting of the daughters will be done with soothing, resolute murmurings of Senior White Papa protection. Rock-a-bye nation, and have no fear of seismic racial shifts, unsavory WH marital theatrics, or Islamoterrorist bombs. Please drop off the keys to your uteri as you exit the polling place. Thank you, ladies.
Gawd, he looks like an elderly Casper the Ghost.
Maureen Dowd likens Caroline’s endorsement to “the sword in the stone.”
(Hope nobody’s eating their breakfast out there!)
If McCain is a pagan, Hair Club, does that make Romney the Pope?
A poor man’s King Solomon?
http://www.salamandersociety.com/romney/070222mitt_romney_big_love_cardinal_zelph.jpg
I’m sure I’m not the only one who noticed this, but I find it really pathetic that so many feminists feel compelled to treat the protection of political dynasties as a top priority. Of all the things from other democracies that we could strive to emulate, this one (my husband/brother/daddy was a beloved figure so now the public loves me, too) is pretty far down at the bottom of the worthiness pile.
There is an unavoidable disconnect between lionizing Hillary, who blatantly owes so much of her career to her husband, and championing the rights of women to stand on our own without being dependent on powerful men. She is at best a mediocre mind and at worst a money-grubbing killer. Without her marriage I simply can’t imagine her tapping the kind of mojo and staying in the public eye as she does. Why not get NOW and NARAL and the rest together and just come out and state the following:
“In a thoroughly corrupted and corrupting system, the only women who even need apply are the Clintons and DiFis and Nan Antoinettes. The rest should be content somewhere between scooping fries at McDonalds and getting a non-tenured job the local community college. Sorry, Sis. We changed our minds. That equality stuff ? All a lie. We don’t believe in it and you can’t prove we ever did. It’s not about reform, diversity, all of us breaking through the walls side by side. It’s about hubby’s achievements and his dough and your ability to milk them for everything they’re worth.”
Another reason to avoid mainstream feminist blogs like the plague, I suppose.
Bravo. Xeno.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The rest should be content somewhere between scooping fries at McDonalds and getting a non-tenured job the local community college.
Trust the noblewomen in the tower to watch out for us! They’re well-positioned, and our best hope, so far!
What I find objectionable about the charge of “nepotism” directed at Hillary, and the condemnations of her for obtaining and keeping power as part of the entrenched structure, is that the same charges are not directed at the men in politics. The guys have done EXACTLY the same thing – using business and social connections, riding on family coattails, using personal wealth to amass political power, etc. That’s business as usual. But all of a sudden when a woman does it, it’s all about her exploiting her marriage, or whatever the hell.
If people were real about this, they would be attacking the fucked-up system that allows ONLY the rich and connected to get political power. And the US is not the only country dominated by this system.
But no, it becomes a game of “let’s tear down individuals”. Which is what the powers-that-be WANT. They want us to be distracted by the soap-opera populated by cartoon characters. “Hillary is bad because”…. yes but the entire scenario is bad. It’s a charade. A fake.
I can’t stand Hillary, but the nepotism issue is trivial compared to the rest of the great bloated disaster that is politics. MCat, what is your phrase – “exploding whale”?
The guys have done EXACTLY the same thing – using business and social connections, riding on family coattails, using personal wealth to amass political power, etc. That’s business as usual. But all of a sudden when a woman does it, it’s all about her exploiting her marriage, or whatever the hell.
Completely agree, sv, but unfortunately for Hillary, Bill continues to personally explode and distract as the great bloated disaster at her side. Check out Marisacat’s Vanity Fair link at #8:
No question the media are in Full Blubber Frenzy over Bill.
Wolf Blitzer, et al, are reporting confirmation that Ted Kennedy will endorse Obama, I guess later today.
Oops, end quote from Vanity Fair should follow unseemly.
Looks like Blubber and Blitzer went to the mod pod, but Boston Globe is reporting that Teddy K will endorse Obama tomorrow.
Thanks for the rescue and HTML-fix, MCat.
From the Globe:
I sense the media is going to “short” their market position on the Clintons. By that, I mean breaching the shitstorm resevoir, the Clinton dividend, sooner rather than saving it for later so to speak. Super Dooper is what? A week from Tuesday , 9 days…
-I’m catching MTP (has staggered time slots here), catching a “for real” tone about SC margins,
-Thinking about how MSNBC cut the coverage of Bill thank fucking Shnog, then lampooned his ass…
-How CNN bowed to Obam requests to bag Begala and Carville (till after Super Dupe IIRC) for lack of objectivity,
- WaPo piece framing outcome as Vital momentum
Dribs of anecdotal stuff, I know, as well as Estab Pols gettin shaky. I really do see Obams jump off – from his intraParty /non-celeb backers POV – as originating as a safe sparring partner for Hill mostly as pre-emption of Gore overtures over a year ago. Its clear though that something funny happened on the way to the Forum.
The People actually vote for the Guy, Bill! Whoops!
I’ve characterized Hill and Bill as teeing up this nastiness as a “Take No Shit from the Niggas” Posture with a view to the General Election. A cynical tactical move, disgusting to be sure, but tactical nonetheless , which I think it is partly. But really, to me, it smells of FEAR. Not the Clinton Faux outrage or calculated indignation devoid of emotion. Not the oft noted Clinton “cool” under fire.
Throughout his Presidency I never noticed anything as a genuine from them on a “feeling” or “motivational” level, not the Lip Biting(c) empathy, her outrage over the Vast RW Conspiracy..I can remember during his podium pounding, Not Have Sex presser that I thought, “Yeh, he banged her — somewhere”. His Confessional and Billy Grahaming afterwards was the SOS different day.
The only glimpse I saw of Clinton that was REAL was in his deposition .When it was FEAR. Fear of being deposed in every sense of the word.
There is another aspect of this and it’s definitely wrapped up in his psyche with Sex Virility and Power and even White Guy/Black Dick issues, throw in abandonment issues on top with a little whip creme ….BillyBoyo and the prospect of losing relevance and power???
He’s gonna be dry humpin stumps out on the stump before long with these margins he can’t control. Eee gads, cover your eyes, grab the kids, being the result…It DOES seems like its a self destructive loop. Okay, enough with the Dr. Ruth. POPCORN!
LOL, BHHM, re Bill and the stump.
It DOES seems like its a self destructive loop.
Also agree that media’s being forced to short their position and pre-play some of their planned General Erection trump cards.
Menu-planning assistance here:
http://www.popcorn.org/nutrition/index.cfm
Oh shit ! And- LOL! If Teddy Kennedy endorses Obama that IS Huge.
Gore I think would follow and should if he was smart His saviour shelf date is up. That happens edwards will strike a behind the scenes deal maybe announce some tactical Obam nods in some states..
BTW IB , RE TEH HTML last thread. – K3WL! U F’d UP.
Southern racists adopt “Canadian” as a euphemism for “black”
BHHM: When it was FEAR. Fear of being deposed in every sense of the word.
They are ALL full of fear. Fear drives everything they do. Same with all the political punditry and the wannabe pundits/operatives, e.g., Aravosis, Kos and his minions, et al. They are all sneaky, defensive, fearful phonies. Shit, they might have to get a real job someday. They might find themselves faced down by real people who are honest and won’t buy the bullshit. The thought terrifies them.
If Teddy Kennedy endorses Obama that IS Huge.
It is, but if Obama is the candidate, the Repubs have just been given a lot more ammo to tar him with the hated l-word: “liberal”.
Hmm…Kennedy for VP?
Southern racists adopt “Canadian” as a euphemism for “black”
That’s bizarre.
#49
Fine with me, sv. But like I said, they ought to come clean about it. If the point all along was simply to have the ultimate ladies golf club luncheon to serve as a counterpart to the men’s version, let them admit it. And let’s see the feminist bloggers in the mainstream drop the charade of giving a damn about rights first and perks second, when clearly it’s the other way around. Again, if they want to emulate primarily the worst of the old-boy network that they once claimed to be interested in striking down, let’s have an open declaration of same.
Rights are just a carnival bark to get us all into the tent, but at the end of the day they obviously don’t really mean shit to these women.
Just to site one example, I could forgive NOW and NARAL much of their bullshit if, say, they hired their own version of Code Pink to follow Hilary all along the bunny trail, hounding her non-stop for promises of a revival of the ERA, of devoting some real attention to protecting and recapturing reproductive freedom, etc. If they threatened to field their own candidate if she didn’t shape the fuck up.
Would everyone who expects this, much less everyone who expects them to give McKinney (who last time I looked, was a woman) the time of day, please go in the corner and stand on your li’l pointed heads. Hillary opens her maw and these twerps shovel in the moolah. That’s our feminism for Election 2008, girls. Take it or leave it, or we’ll let the GOP boogeyman get yooooooooooouuu !!!
i posted a link about this usage found in a local DA’s email (regarding a jury!) in the last thread.
It is, but if Obama is the candidate, – catnip
There’s always a catch.
The guy who’ll talk to Iran will bomb Pakistan.
Change.
hey–your former friend here doesn’t believe Obama will be a hawk.
and I’m selling tickets to Call Me a Fool (Fancy Feast is legal tender)
Who do you think is going to get the support of AIPAC among the Dems?
Yes, I know about O’s remarks with regard to Hamas bombing of Israel.
Don’t you think he knows about the level of organizational opposition he has if he would dare utter the Dean “fairness” request?
And as far as the world looking differently at us if we elected Obama–who in europe or asia could do that?
Checking HTML . . .
Speaking of noblewomen in the towers . . . this one is stepping neatly from Fred Thompson’s turret rubble to join Mitt, the Git More Gitmo candidate, as a senior foreign policy advisor. Who could ever have guessed that Dick’s highly precious deferment baby would grow up to further advance the military-industrial cause?
(Oh, and look out America of Tomorrow. Apparently she’s raising five young ‘uns herself.)
Ambinder says Sibelius will endorse obama….
#59 They are ALL full of fear. Fear drives everything they do
Well they sure as hell are not given to much introspection certainly or broader strategic imperitives other than their own personal survival… But systems, by nature of size or wisdom of design tolerate parasites, allow for leakage, etc…
The problem with any perceptual or opinion sector like Politics Blogging and Punditry, there are no objective, measurable standards like: Plane flies? Patient Dies?
Hell even electoral loss isn’t necessarily Fatal to Influence or Income. now as the “fight goes on”, the “dream never dies” blah blah blah.
and the retainers roll in with a more or less stable set of hangers on.
As for Markos and the Bloggers, it really is a bullshit idea, like being a Professional Conversationalist. Kinda like going to Carnivale on Acid. So I guess it’s really like being a Professional conversationalist going to Carnivale on Acid. Or maybe my face just feels like its melting off wen I “go” there.
The paid punditry, the press, much the same. But I would disagree with you about nepotism, which you admit is a given. Our society is more calcified than Victorian England. Not for lack of Laws advising otherwise but the gaming of it by individuals in strategic, sytemically unassailable position. I just don’t understand how you would propose attacking a system that is based on close personal ,class, and familial ties without the inconvenience of attacking the very persons, and personal beneficiarities of such a system..
If people were real about this, they would be attacking the fucked-up system that allows ONLY the rich and connected to get political power.
I have no tears for Hillary in this regard. Price of top dawg inevitability.
Rights are just a carnival bark to get us all into the tent, but at the end of the day they obviously don’t really mean shit to these women.
Bay,
Sorry, I missed your link. I can’t keep up with you guys.
oops, meant to write
Absolutely right, ms. x! after those italics.
more Sibel Edmunds in the UK Times today:
Judiciary Committee should move to impeach Bush and Cheney – Elizabeth Holtzman
Hey, Miss D – Your vote’s your own, and you’re obviously not alone in hoping for something different, this once. Public interest and optimism for even the possibility of change in the Sausage Factory appears to be on the upswing, at least for now.
Arizona Republic endorsement.
I wouldn’t count on those Fool! ticket sales for a campaign fund-raiser or anything, though.
And I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying here:
And as far as the world looking differently at us if we elected Obama–who in europe or asia could do that?
Care to elucidate?
Thanks, Madman, IB, sv, BHHM, etc.
You all can come over here and share Sunday brunch any day. Today it was eggs scrambled w/Trader Joe’s proscuito, baby spinach, and mushrooms. Toast, coffee, bloody marys, etc.
You too, MissD. I don’t give a rat’s ass about Obama or any Democrat, so I’m not going to get in a brawl over ‘em. None of them are worth it, to me.
Today it was eggs scrambled w/Trader Joe’s proscuito, baby spinach, and mushrooms. Toast, coffee, bloody marys, etc.
— ms x
god that sounds good……..
Now, this is my idea of juicy goodness:
Link via Like Maria Said Paz, 1/25/08.
Mcat, I’m no IOZ, but I have my moments…
The big myth of the 2008 election is that Democrats are the antiwar candidates.
ain’t it the truth……… an evil game they are playing. Again.
Hell, there are idiot Americans who think voting for MCCAIN is a vote for ending the war.
We live in a vast seas of morons.
You pushed me over the edge, ms x, with your cruuuuuueeeeeel flaunting of such a beauteous brunch. (Thanks for the invite, though!)
I’ve abandoned my plan for grocery shopping. I’m heading straight for Chinese take-out forthwith.
hey–your former friend here doesn’t believe Obama will be a hawk.
Threatening to violate Pakistan’s sovereignty isn’t hawkish?
Stick this is your pipe and smoke it, Olmert:
But there’s a catch (of course). There’s always a catch.
If I say “fuck you”, will I get labeled as an anti-semite? (Like I haven’t been no matter what I say anyway…)
If I say “fuck you”, will I get labeled as an anti-semite? (Like I haven’t been no matter what I say anyway…)
Does it make me a racist to say “Rot in Hell” to Suharto because I’m not Asian?
Damn, I was hungry. One cannot live on popcorn alone.
FYI to BHHM – Hill and Bill did manage to salvage a Kennedy.
That said, the whisperings about a Gore endorsement for O are accelerating. Wouldn’t it be sweet if Al dropped that chad on Tuesday, smack dab in the middle of the Florida situation(s)?
I’m just loving all the inconvenient voting going on, as each state rolls out its electoral jalopies (and peculiar jeopardies). If nothing else, it’s a public benefit to demonstrate – and in some cases, possibly trounce – the unbelievably arcane primary system. Not to mention kicking the assfaces of the smuggest and laziest pundits, movers, and shakers.
So OK, all you cell-phone kids! Keep surprising them!
FYI to HC – As a baseline, for watching future shifts – Last week’s latest polls of the Super Tuesday states were posted by AZNomad here. The pre-South Carolina splits were bigger in Massachusetts (59% / 22%) than in NY (51% / 25%), and NJ was tighter than either (49% / 32%).
California was 39% / 27%, FWIW.
I’m just loving all the inconvenient voting going on, as each state rolls out its electoral jalopies-Intermittent Bystander
With ya, IB!
Yes, catnip, on behalf of all Jews everywhere, let me be the first to say back away from the cheesecake and come out with your hands up !!
Hey Miss Dee-… C’mon. I don’t have former friends.
The concept doesn’t register with my view of friendship and certainly not of you…I think your smart, witty, and articulate. A fellow Peace and Justice seeker—What’s not to love? I just think you’re stone wrong about the degree of Obama’s “change” factor, if at all, re the fundamental destructive, inequitable assumptions of US Foreign Policy and Market Exploitation.
If anything, I’d sooo like him to seal the deal, Rise up From from “the Table”, bust out of the Party Blab-oratory and go and pillage the Bill and Hillary village. I figure we can at least get on with – shall we say – the challenge , the “Bring it”, the hype, hope, or not of real change. I’m expecting little there/there WRT, again, the degree of Obama’s “change” factor, if at all, re the fundie-fun fundamental assumptions of US Foreign Policy and Market Exploitation.
But its not out of some infatuation with nihilism or feelings one way or another towards Obama.. It’s from my assessment of the system and the individuals at key, fortified points within, and how it works..If any thing the fact that it DID take so long for the “Scales to fall from my eyes”, [(c) Holy Bibbble TPM.] the fact that it took me so long to go Indy– it’s hard to say I’m just a knee jerk Dis Miss-ive of D knucklehead..
KnuckleHead, sure, I’ll cop to that, but not the out-of-hand dismissive or onion skin loyalty rap. 99.9% of my stuff -(online stuff a smaller part of it , believe it or not) – most of my meager efforts have been aimed at knocking HILLARY out. What’s not to like if your an Obama supporter??– With my reasoning, at least??- I already copped to the lesser charges along the lines of disorderly blogging.
on behalf of all Jews everywhere, let me be the first to say back away from the cheesecake- ms xeno
LOL Actually ms xee, that’s a line
from the My Personal Lord and Saviour Crowd.
[ loving the opportunity to skewer fundies, moon markos from the "crowd", and flirt at the same time ] Plus Cheesecake!
if it hasn’t been mentioned before, the sacramento bee and the san jose mercury news both endorsed obama recently. the fresno bee went for edwards. no word on the stockton record or the modesto bee.
oh, and the bakersfield californian endorsed hillary and mccain, in one of the lamest endorsement columns i have ever read. i know people complain about the SF chronicle, but damn that bakersfield endorsement was vapid.
LOL Suze Ormann on Larry King spreading the Gospel to the unwashed asses ( her POV) not to spend that “Stimulus Package” money.
“Keep that money, save it, or pay down debt..”
Translation: “Make it available to
the Financial Institutions that raped your ass and Sponsor my Show.
[..head pat & a cookie..]
Premise: Everyone out there has discretionary income.
What a fucking media whore. When She was on Cramer’s Mad Money LAST WEEK, she was advising his audience what a great time it is to BUY , INVEST, and go Bargain Hunting..
[..head pat, cigar & brandy..]
the other amusement, for me anyway, is watching the party freak out at Bill doing and saying in public what they ALL (almost all) ahve done and said in private forever.
One reason for the rush to embrace Obama prior to the sweep of voting on Super Tuesday, ring in governors senators low to ground House reps etc…
They would feel safer if upcoming states had a similar make up to SC but ooops! they don’t – not even the three Southern states coming up have that simpler days, olde timey religion, binary voter mix. NOr the providential percentage break downs.
I think a few things on teh ground in NV goosed them. how quickly NV was forgotten, much more a harginger of voting in upcoming states than is SC…
oops.
Funny, I was just reading James piece on Aravoisis at Mo Betta.
God that is a scream.
the other amusement, for me anyway, is watching the party freak out at Bill doing and saying in public what they ALL (almost all) ahve done and said in private forever.-mcat
Oh true. It’s all such cynical crap. And all these recent alter call endorsements could very well amount to guano , like in NH if they lay down on BO’s ass.
And they’d STILL get to say a la Romney that they fought the good fight , “walked with”
Martin,Jesse, er ,- Barack.Me, I’m just playin Whack a Mole,
Bills bulbous nose being most visible now…
Or shall I say Whack A-Hole?
95. – always happy to please.
That was awesome James.
Yes, catnip, on behalf of all Jews everywhere, let me be the first to say back away from the cheesecake and come out with your hands up !!
It’s going to take more than that to separate me from my cheesecake!
Oh Bill is a horror. I think the big divide for the party, right at this minute anyway, is that Barack and Michelle are controllable. Bill and Hill are way out there, ouside the reach of the party.
She will be in SPringfield MA Monday. Open rally and I bet a door to door or very small accompanied drop in a la Las Vegas…
Obama might need to find his inner Evita, one that holds up in close quarters that is, in the 9 days to Super Tuesday. I assume the party can pull it off.
LOL Obama might need to find his inner Evita-mcat,
Obama might need to find his inner Evita
I thought he already had with his martyr-like “Don’t cry (please cry) for me” schtick.
Xeno is a baked goods terrorist.
Two religious deaths: the heads of the Mormon church and the Greek Orthodox church. They should have an interesting conversation in “heaven”.
Xeno is a baked goods terrorist.
I have a well-equipped department of home-baked goods security. catnip’s DHS.
CheeseCakeymo-terrorism.
105 catnip, Mormon Prohet and Greek Orthodox Guy convo in “heaven”.
Well, it better be heaven
considering what the Orthodox Bishop is wearing.
Patrick Cockburn’s Return to Fallujah.
Freedom is on the march (somewhere):
If it takes that much security to seal one city, does anyone really think US troops will be going home anytime soon?
Capitalism above all else. That should be America’s new motto.
There is a story kicking around… and I don’t still have the window open… but one ofthe Obama supporters, Gutierrez a House rep from a predominately Hispanic area of Chicago, that despite stories in the media of “Hsipanics slow to warm to obama” the real problem is lack of outreach.
Could be in house grumbles, but it sounds real.
I think he will hve to go door to door as she did in LV, down in the nitty gritty of poor homes.
When he was out here in SF a couple of weeks ago – for money, like they all do – they had a sit down arranged for him with 4 single mothers [representign a mix of races and one brought her tiny baby with her in a chest carrier] at a neighborhood center in the Mission District… I am unsure they got usable still shots from it. He looked bored and barely there thru out the whole of it.
They need something with photos to dranch Latino media with.
I assume th party can pull it off and Obama can whisk out his old organising for the church self and manage it, for just long enough.
Well, it better be heaven
considering what the Orthodox Bishop is wearing.
If it isn’t heaven, I’d say he’s a bit overdressed.
LOL on the DHS catnip….
I still remember a pic link to a xeno chocolate torte.
Fuck it, seriously, I’m now gonna roll out
to score some cheap imitation sugar buzz
at the convenient Mini Heart Attack Market.
Damn you, Xeno!
More trouble in “paradise”:
Spin that one in your SOTU, Bush.
Yeah, I’d say they’re “concerned” all right.
Fuck it, seriously, I’m now gonna roll out
to score some cheap imitation sugar buzz
at the convenient Mini Heart Attack Market.
Hope your weather’s better than mine: -31C with a windchill of -43C.
Christ, now anybody who wants to knock me off thread
can bring up a xeno torte and I’m lookin for the car keys
and change in the furniture. Seriously, out…LOL.
The return of sunny, spousy Bill:
Wait a minute. I thought the NYT just endorsed her.
That doesn’t prove he cost her the support of women unless they have some data to back that up and b) Obama only got 22% of white women, so I think they’re exagerrating a tad.
I thought no one knew the origin of these e-mails. According to CBS:
What I really want to know is whether they were typed out on an IBM Selectric.
I’ve posted a couple of Robert Fisk videos at my place.
Oops. I had to pull the second video because it was cut off due to You Tube’s 10 minute limit.
On the world economy and the French bank scandal: Rogue and the pogue
E-mails have surfaced, some traced to Clinton campaign volunteers in Iowa, claiming that Obama is a Muslim.
This could mean any number of things. It’s not that hard to become a Clinton volunteer than just send an e-mail.
And even if you could trace it to a Clinton owned computer, it doesn’t mean that someone at Clinton headquarters didn’t just say “oh my God this goes too far” then passed it on to someone else with his/her outraged comments”.
There’s no question the Clintons are running a racialized campaign against Obama but I doubt we’ll ever be able to prove where these e-mails came from.
well iirc at the time the three (think at the end three were asked to leave) volunteers involved, from email reprints, two seemed to send it on to distribute it… one, it looked like it was, or might be, more innocent.
But I thought a lot came out at the time…
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