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Maybe…. 31 January 2008

Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, U.S. Senate, WAR!.
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they could just butt heads for 90 minutes.  Might be more productive… Seems the “game”, both R and D “side”, is who can make who angry.

I say, let ‘em bleed out…

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ha ha ha… after i wrote the above I landed on this post at IOZ;)

I think I’d like presidential campaign politics more if the stakes were a little higher.

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I think there should be conseuqences. There was this campaign in aught-four, “Vote or Die,” which curiously enough involved Puff Daddy but not any actual death. Couldn’t we reinvent it for the candidates themselves? Win . . . Or Die. I mean, if Hillary Clinton got to drag Edwards out back by his hair and pistol-whip him to death as punishment for his concession, you can bet your ass he’d’ve run a better campaign. If John McCain were allowed to feast on the palpitating heart of Rudy Giuliani and absorb his life energy rather than getting some bland statement of support on some tacky dais, well, fuck. I might renew my registration.

Fired up the Bar B Q, Ready to go!

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1. wilfred - 31 January 2008

Does a nation that now tortures and shreds its beautiful Constitution without its population taking to the streets in massive numbers to protest deserve better candidates than these?

Actually, no.

2. marisacat - 31 January 2008

Hard to get either more grasping or emptier.

The one that pulled in the mega bucks for Jan, 32 million, I read at least one report that stated the money means he is a movement.

Good luck to America.

3. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

New post: Gaming the Afghanistan War for Political Power. Now I have to warm up my hands…

4. Intermittent Bystander - 31 January 2008

On the other hand, they probably deserve a better moderator than Wolf.

Learned something new at Wiki, assuming the bio facts are true:

During the 1970s, Blitzer wrote for Hebrew-language newspapers using aliases. Blitzer wrote for Al Ha-Mishmar, a newspaper affiliated with the left-wing Mapam political party under the name Ze’ev Blitzer. He also wrote for Yedioth Ahronoth, Israel’s most widely-read paper, under the name Ze’ev Barak. “Ze’ev” meaning “wolf” in Hebrew and “Barak” meaning “lightning” in Hebrew, the German word for which is “Blitz”.

5. marisacat - 31 January 2008

I have read that before so I assume th bulk of it, all of it, is true.

LOL Well you know, vetted by AIPAC, just like the pols…

have to laugh.

6. Hair Club for Men - 31 January 2008

Some interestingly nasty stuff is coming out about Bill.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-love/the-wellconnected-dictat_b_67423.html

I have to admit it’s going to be fun to watch the Republican attack machine go to work on the Clintons this fall.

The fact that McCain probably can’t win will only bring out their mean side.

7. Hair Club for Men - 31 January 2008

And apparently Ron Paul too

Representative Ron Paul placed the Richardson editorial in the Congressional Record, and was one of several members of Congress to introduce resolutions benefiting the Kazakhstan regime.

8. ms_xeno - 31 January 2008

I don’t really go for the blood-and-guts thing.

Now if they all had to perform karaoke, maybe. John Edwards forced to sing to Obama “Did I Ever Tell You You’re My Hero…” now that would be great.

And somebody should totally resurrect “You Ain’t Worth The Salt In My Tears.” An underrated 80s should-be classic….

9. Hair Club for Men - 31 January 2008

John Edwards forced to sing to Obama “Did I Ever Tell You You’re My Hero…” now that would be great.

Maybe Rudy can sing Beck’s “I’m a Loser Baby So Why Don’t You Kill Me” then have Ed Koch jump out from behind the stage with a wooden stake and put it right in Rudy’s heart.

10. ms_xeno - 31 January 2008

Nah, HC. Singing + blood would equal Sondheim. I was never much into Sondheim. I mean, I appreciate that he’s talented but he’s not really my cup of borscht.

11. Intermittent Bystander - 31 January 2008

Good piece, catnip. But FYI, BushCo are drawing down on drawing down from Iraq, as we speak. Who knows what they’ll be drawing, by July.

HC – Quite the picture show. BTW, I noticed an old pic of Bill C. and Suharto at Yahoo News “Most Viewed” page the other day, and wondered who had driven the traffic.

Also at Huffpo, there’s an excerpt from the Washington Times about Obama and pot decriminalization, indicating flip-floppery.

Asked about the two different answers, Mr. Obama’s presidential campaign said he in fact has “always” supported decriminalizing marijuana as he answered in 2004, meaning the candidate mistakenly raised his hand during the presidential debate last fall.

Guess we’ll have to watch out for accidental semaphore tonight.

12. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

And Hillary: “Did I Shave My Legs For This?”

13. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

But FYI, BushCo are drawing down on drawing down from Iraq, as we speak.

Yeah, I saw a version of that story as well but thanks. :)

I think that bit of propaganda in his SOTU about troops coming home was meant to give him some sort of boost – as if anything could these days.

14. ms_xeno - 31 January 2008

Catnip, as a patriotic Canadian I’m surprised you didn’t opt for “(If You) Shave Your Legs” by The Pursuit of Happiness.

BTW, I was listening to some pilfered Frantics stuff yesterday and was alarmed by the sheer number of Alberta jokes. They make it sound like New Jersey only with cowboy hats and more snow. :/

15. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Catnip, as a patriotic Canadian I’m surprised you didn’t opt for “(If You) Shave Your Legs” by The Pursuit of Happiness.

Never heard of it. I’m obviously un-Canadian. ;)

16. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Heads will explode at dkos. Take cover!

17. Intermittent Bystander - 31 January 2008

I like the karaoke idea, but could it include a gymnastics component, too?

Hurdles, balance beams, parallel bars, hoops of fire . . .

Why not make literal the contortions required for attaining political office?

18. Hair Club for Men - 31 January 2008

Obama: Rumsfeld in Mainstream, Praises Bush’s Appointments

That almost made MY head explode.

19. Hair Club for Men - 31 January 2008

Come on Barack, you’re a lawyer. What part of scum sucking war criminal pond scum don’t you understand?

20. ms_xeno - 31 January 2008

Well in that case, IB, which party would end up with “Tears of a Clown ?” Not to mention “Whiter Shade of Pale.”

21. marisacat - 31 January 2008

they all/both win for “Send in the Clowns”.

Up thread, is that the 2001 interview where Obama calls Rummy mainstream? I got a huge kick out of the threads on that yesterday… what a hoot!

The MOST amusing thing is watching so called liberals so called whatever defend the stupid/dumb/RIGHT WING shit their beloveds parsed or accepted or supported or embraced or wanted to be like.

God it gets old.

22. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

18 & 19. His supporters are writing it off as “oh c’mon now – nobody knew Rummy was all that bad in 2001. Over here! Look at Hillary! She’s teh evil.”

What planet are they on? And what about Obama’s confidence in other Bush appointees or his confidence that Bush would actually know what the hell he was doing in the first place??

23. Hair Club for Men - 31 January 2008

Well in that case, IB, which party would end up with “Tears of a Clown ?” Not to mention “Whiter Shade of Pale.”

I could think of a certain Elton John song for Hillary but it would probably put me in David Byron territory.

But how about this song for them all?

24. Intermittent Bystander - 31 January 2008

Tough call, ms x.

Might I propose a preemptive ban on Helen Reddy or Sly Stone material?
Or is it already too late?

25. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

How soon they forget this pic.

26. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Phew! Looks like I’ll get to watch Lost after this after all.

The debate: train wreck
Lost: plane wreck

27. Hair Club for Men - 31 January 2008

Hillary as Kim Gordon and Obama as Chuck D?

28. marisacat - 31 January 2008

I could think of a certain Elton John song for Hillary but it would probably put me in David Byron territory. — HC

LOL don’t hold back.

29. ms_xeno - 31 January 2008

It’s all right with me, IB. But remember any candidate I vote for will probably be relegated to Rage Against the Machine or something similar. Which would be all right except does it really go with sequins.

Mcat, I know what you mean. It’s the pretense of morality that ticks me off. Like that yutz who was arguing and yet not arguing with HC the other day about Obama. They don’t have a moral leg to stand on as long as they condone that type of shit in any form. All I could think of after awhile was the Black Knight bit from Monty Python, except that in this case HC’s opponent pretty much pre-emptively cut off his own limbs instead of waiting around for somebody else to do it.

Bah.

30. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

The Bitch is Back?

31. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Cuz you got to have fri-ends… Sing it, Obama!

32. Hair Club for Men - 31 January 2008

Like that yutz who was arguing and yet not arguing with HC the other day about Obama.

Very strange how Sabrina and I both caught onto the style of arguing. Well maybe not so strange. It’s so obvious.

It’s arguing by refusing to argue. Sort of “well you people are all just a bunch of anti-semites and anti-Israel third party voting purists so I’m not going to lower myself by arguing with you. I’m just going to spend 4 hours throwing shit”.

It gets old after awhile but not for you for them. How often can you box yourself in without even trying to defend your position.

33. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Obama: “I’ll take the high road and you take the low road and I’ll get to the WH before ye…”

34. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

32. Who was that, HC?

35. Hair Club for Men - 31 January 2008

On second thought, comparing Hillary to Kim Gordon and Obama to Chuck D is insulting to Kim Gordon and Chuck D.

Obama’s closer to American Idol. Perfect look. Perfect grooming. Superficially charming. Empty inside.

36. Hair Club for Men - 31 January 2008

32. Who was that, HC?

Your Momma and Moon. I have yet to make a decision about whether or not they’re the same person or just reading from the same script.

But the manic personal attacks, spasms of violence and profanity and semi-stalker behavior are something they really have in common.

37. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Oh yay. A policy differences question.

38. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Your Momma and Moon

Both nutbars. I just ignore them.

39. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

sad how “universal healthcare” has become “forced unafforable individual insurance”, aint’ it?

40. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

“preconditions” – no doubt that’s the Bush stance on Iran she’s talking about.

41. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

39. You got that right, MitM.

42. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Is Hillary calling for subsidies for people who would be mandated to buy health insurance?

43. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

Well in that case, IB, which party would end up with “Tears of a Clown ?” Not to mention “Whiter Shade of Pale.”

Both parties could both use Backstabbers.

44. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Did that ethics bill pass? I can’t remember.

45. Hair Club for Men - 31 January 2008

How about one for Michael Mukasy?

46. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

We actually have mandated health care coverage in Alberta – just one of three provinces, I think, that charges premiums (which is ridiculous considering how wealthy this place is but that’s what you get from a never-ending Conservative regime). They’re subsidized for low-income people and no one ever is ever refused care if they can’t pay their bill.

47. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

they’re arguing over who can make more people pay for something they can’t afford.

Hey, Barack, you won’t reduce premiums UNTIL YOU TAKE THE PROFIT MOTIVE OUT OF IT.

Fucking moron.

48. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

“Ted Kennedy”. Drink!

49. Intermittent Bystander - 31 January 2008

Interesting watching them angle, in turns, to raid Edwards’ sacrificial basket for maximum voter goodies.

50. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Like people (besides political junkies) are going to watch that on C-SPAN? Good luck with that.

51. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Hey, Barack, you won’t reduce premiums UNTIL YOU TAKE THE PROFIT MOTIVE OUT OF IT.

Neither one of them has a proposal that will work effectively if they can’t strong arm the insurance/medical interests. And that’s not going to happen anytime soon.

52. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

On second thought, comparing Hillary to Kim Gordon and Obama to Chuck D is insulting to Kim Gordon and Chuck D.

and “Cool Thing” is such a great song.

Maybe Cynthia could use it.

53. Hair Club for Men - 31 January 2008

and “Cool Thing” is such a great song.

Hey Obama. Are you going to save us girls from male, white corporate oppression?

54. Gayle - 31 January 2008

Ted Kennedy has worked hard on health care issues?

When?

The only time I’ve seen my Senator “work hard” these last few years is when the state tried to erect some wind turbines off the Hyannis coast, thus marring his lovely view. Oh, man did he work hard to stop that.

55. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

I had to mute this mess to listen to Cool Thing.

Back to the idiocy.

56. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

oh no, the “flood of immigrant labor”!!!!

Americans are so fucking stupid. Like rabid dogs chasing the whistle.

57. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Touchy question: pitting blacks against Latinos on immigration.

58. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

oh no, the “flood of immigrant labor”!!!!

She obviously watches Lou Dobbs.

59. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Geez this is boring. Bring back Seabiscuit!

60. marisacat - 31 January 2008

54

yeah. One thing I am tired to the bone with is how personal pique between pols (one things of Reid bitching at Bush, Reid cares little for the horror, he does nothing) predicates how stuff shakes down. But then action/reaction is sold to us as high minded liberal slobber.

liberal [cough choke spit] lion. he [cough choke strangle] cares so much

gahhhhhh.

61. StupidAsshole - 31 January 2008

32: Their purpose isn’t to convince you that Israel is in the right (that would only work if you believed that one race is superior to another and that walled ghettos and ethnic cleansing are morally justified). Their purpose is to disrupt discussion by clogging up diaries with stupid comments, pictures, etc.

Keep a close eye on the Sibel Edmonds diaries on dKos, btw. They’ve set their sites on those (check out Bouwerie Boy’s, MBNYC’s and Bush is the Devil’s efforts to derail discussion in those diaries), though they’ll have to be careful, as Edmonds is such a popular cause on that blog, and they risk losing their vaunted TU status if they lay on the disruption too thick.

62. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

and Clinton panders, while conveniently forgeting about WHO PASSED AND SIGNED NAFTA.

Time to crack open another beer.

63. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

“Ted Kennedy”

DRINK!

64. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

63. You beat me to it. :)

65. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

Hey, Wolf, just hand him a rapier and get it over with.

Geez … I bet he likes to stand on the sidewalk at yell “JUMP” at suicides.

66. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

I nodded off there during Obama’s latest drivel. Is he for driver’s licenses or not?

67. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

BTW, no immigrant should have to pay a fine to immigrate until white America pays reparations for slavery and before it fucking makes good on the Indian Trust.

68. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

67. Amen to that.

69. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Hillary: stab stab

Obama: ouch ouch

70. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Stevie Wonder’s there. k3wl, as the kids say.

71. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

For intermission, I offer this Dennis Perrin link:

Will John McCain finally receive the Bob Dole “I have it coming, it’s mine, goddammit, get your grubby mitts off it!” nomination? It’s looking more and more that way. Good for him, I guess. Considering the rotting imperial wreck of whatever nation remains, he’ll need all the positive vibes he can grab. As for the rest of us . . .

I love watching these late night victory celebrations. You’d think that we live in some robust democracy, all songs, balloons and cheers from the faithful, as the smiling ghosts of Jefferson and Lincoln float above, high-fiving and bumping chests. It’s quite a show, and a necessary one, given the dreadful reality of our depoliticized world. If nothing else, we Americans play Make Believe better than the most gifted poseur you can name. Fantasy is Job One, and our endless elections are perhaps the most vibrant examples of this national mindset.

What if it’s McCain vs. Hillary in November? Oh man, that would be a blast to witness. Two nearly identical choices for imperial manager, the one slight difference being that McCain says he’s opposed to torture, while Hillary must wait to check wind velocity and direction. I can see the liberals twisting themselves into numerous knots trying to justify a Hillary vote over McCain, assuring each other that it’s the right thing to do, and of course reaching back to Bill’s criminal years for inspiration. You mules better hope that Saint Obama gets the nod instead. At least with him, the fantasy is easier to pull off. Change! Hope! Stardust! Ponies! If I ruled the world . . .

72. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

Oh, and in honor of the last sentence I blockquoted from Perrin:

10cc – I Wanna Rule the World

ahhhh, 10cc, one of my favorite underrated bands …

73. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

They’re BOTH Gandhi. Amazing.

74. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

“Ted Kennedy”.

Drink!

75. Gayle - 31 January 2008

Drink!

Double chugs for the Caroline plug!

76. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

damn, I missed a drink!

My DVR took over to record “Lost” (so much better w/o the commercials).

trying to get the fucking stream to work on cnn DOT com.

77. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Hillary: Hey! I have Kennedys too, damnit!

78. Gayle - 31 January 2008

I think she mentioned two of them.

Drink, drink! I should have splurged on a second bottle of wine.

79. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

big applause line of the nite: It might take a second Clinton to clean up after the second Bush.

80. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

The Clintons: just glorified janitors.

81. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

I threw up in my mouth a little when she said that, myself.

82. Gayle - 31 January 2008

Did they only allow celebrities to attend this thing?

Every time they pan around the audience I feel like I’m watching the People’s Choice awards.

83. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

I feel like I’m watching the People’s Choice awards.

Same level of talent on the stage.

84. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

MitM,

Did you watch Lost last nite? I avoided the first hour because I didn’t want to watch the rerun but when I tuned into the second hour, I saw the added text by the producers as they followed the story line with the audience. I thought that was an interesting way to bring people up to speed and to add some substance to some of the clues.

85. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Ask them about that big fucking embassy in Iraq, Wolf. What do they plan to do with that?

86. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

Did you watch Lost last nite?

Recorded it. I’m planning a marathon this weekend on the DVR. Both hours last nite, and tonite’s ep.

87. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

btw, if you can’t tell from the last comment and my admiration for 10cc, I have no life.

88. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

btw, if you can’t tell from the last comment and my admiration for 10cc, I have no life.

lol… I hear ya!

89. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Doesn’t Hillary know about Bush’s recent signing statement about permanent bases? It sure didn’t sound like it.

90. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Obama: I’m a mother-hugger.

91. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Every time they pan around the audience I feel like I’m watching the People’s Choice awards.

No kidding. I guess with the writer’s strike they don’t have much else to do.

92. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

“American interests” = oil

Why not just say that, Obama?

93. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

pffft Hillary…you didn’t even read the NIE and weren’t inspectors already in Iraq at the time?

94. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Wolfie gets booed…lol

95. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

Oh, Hillary … saying more words doesn’t make you less of an idiot.

To take a break from such a weak, stupid candidate, watch the Kate from “Lost” music video.

96. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

dear Crom, she’s fucking stupid.

I’m a moderately well-educated shmuck living in a small apt. w/ an internet connection, and I KNEW THE CASE AGAINST SADDAM WAS BULLSHIT.

Her vote on the war, as though the record of her and her husband’s record toadying up to corporations wasn’t enuff, is reason enuff for me to NEVER, EVER voter for her.

97. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

Wolf: Time to sell some SUVs and boner pills!

98. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Hillary just lied again – saying that Saddam kicked the inspectors out in ’98. GMAFB.

99. Intermittent Bystander - 31 January 2008

Boo the Wolf, Hollywood! Boo the Wolf some more!

100. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

I thought she was almost winning this debate until that round about Iraq.

101. Gayle - 31 January 2008

“I’m a moderately well-educated shmuck living in a small apt. w/ an internet connection, and I KNEW THE CASE AGAINST SADDAM WAS BULLSHIT.”

Agreed. I also knew that Bush was “obsessed” with this mission from the get-go. If I knew, and Madman knew, and so many others knew, how could Hillary and the rest of congress not know?

Who keeps telling her not to admit the vote was a mistake? Everyone already knows the vote was a mistake. Why bother denying it?

102. Intermittent Bystander - 31 January 2008

That the Clinton clean-up line got applause amazed me, personally.

103. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

“what their children is watching”

“earwaves”

Is Obama getting sleeeepy?

104. Intermittent Bystander - 31 January 2008

Who keeps telling her not to admit the vote was a mistake? Everyone already knows the vote was a mistake. Why bother denying it?

Always been a bit of a mystery to me too. Pull the tooth, already. Stop the pain.

105. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Firestorm-setting Bill

106. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

LOL

a “sex and violence” question …

THIS is an important issue?!?!

I was reading “adult” books in junior high. I remember that I brought “Black Sunday” by Thomas Harris into my seventh grade English class for a book report that I wanted to do. My teacher refused to let me do that book (this was in the 70s) and gave me “Black Beauty” to read instead. I complained, she sent me to the principle, and my mother tore them both to shreds when she had to come in to hear about how “disruptive” I was.

We had one rule … if I wanted to read something, I had to be willing to describe the plot and contents of the book to my mom and dad. If I was too embarrassed to do that, I wasn’t ready to read it. It worked really well.

107. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

“no more yes men or women in the White House”.

well, that was nice to hear. wonder if he means it.

108. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

105. And look how you turned out! (kidding) :)

109. ms_xeno - 31 January 2008

Oh, merde. I knew it. Our system is so bad that it’s made catnip fall off the wagon. I’m filled with shame. If only I’d gotten there with the macaroons on time. But no, I had to stop off at the MegaloMart for Ben & Jerry’s first.*

*not a paid endorsement

Madman:

…fucking moron.

Nah. It’s willful oblivion, which does take at least a smidge of intelligence to cultivate. And it trickles down in best Reagan fashion. From Obama pretending that compulsory insurance is humane to Your Momma pretending his advisors are humane isn’t a very big leap.

I haven’t picked a song for Cynthia yet. For Nader, only really old Joe Jackson* would do. Maybe “I Don’t Wanna’ Be Like That.”

…Some people think that they know about some girls
Some people think they’re cool
And some girls think they know about me
Some girls think I’m some fool
And american girls that put their tongue in your ear
When they talk on the telephone
And the stars only come out at night
When the press and photographers moan and groan
And the playboy centerfold leaves me cold
And that ain’t ’cause I’m a fag
So you playboys can just go play with yourself
That’s your style
’cause that’s a drag

Take me away I said take me away
I don’t wanna be like that
Don’t wanna be like that
Don’t wanna be like that !

110. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

oh, thank goodness THAT is over.

over at Grace Nearing’s blog:

I don’t want to hear any judgmental tsk-tsking from the media about beleaguered homeowners mailing in the keys and walking away from upside-down or otherwise unmanageable mortgages. For decades, Americans have witnessed or, worse, experienced first-hand corporate indifference and ruthlessness: mergers and acquisitions that are designed simply to raid pension funds, health insurance companies that would rather see you dead than receive treatment, corporations that slash payrolls and benefits while paying CEOs hundreds of millions of dollars, companies that extort property tax rebates and then move their operations overseas, and all the other myriad forms of all-purpose Enronism.

American consumers have been taught by masters.

111. NYCO - 31 January 2008

I keep myself sane by imagining what Shirley Chisholm would say if someone transported her from 1972 to 2008 and sat her down in front of these candidates.

Obama and Clinton, put together, are like Xerox copies of Xerox copies of Xerox copies (… repeat 1000x …) of Xerox copies of her.

112. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

105. And look how you turned out! (kidding)

Oh, right … (pushes leather & rubber gear under the futon) … ummmm

never mind.

113. Gayle - 31 January 2008

“Wolf: Time to sell some SUVs and boner pills!”

Promises, promises. All I got was an Obama commercial featuring Caroline Kennedy.

And I’ve run out of wine. Sniff.

114. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

All I got was an Obama commercial featuring Caroline Kennedy.

same diff …

115. ms_xeno - 31 January 2008

…(pushes leather & rubber gear under the futon)…

HAH !! Busted Madman has a second job as an evangelical minister !!

116. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

114. lol

117. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

Busted Madman has a second job as an evangelical minister !!

DAMN … can’t sneak ANYTHING past you people!

Now where is that sweet little church secretary?

118. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

Dear zeus, could CNN have found a more pathetic crowd of hacks for their post-debate show?

119. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

switchin’ to Keith …

120. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008
121. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

weird endorsements file:

Volcker Joins List of Obama Backers

“After 30 years in government, serving under five Presidents of both parties and chairing two non-partisan commissions on the Public Service, I have been reluctant to engage in political campaigns. The time has come to overcome that reluctance,” Volcker, a Democrat, said in a statement today. “However, it is not the current turmoil in markets or the economic uncertainties that have impelled my decision. Rather, it is the breadth and depth of challenges that face our nation at home and abroad. Those challenges demand a new leadership and a fresh approach.”

He concluded: “It is only Barack Obama, in his person, in his ideas, in his ability to understand and to articulate both our needs and our hopes that provide the potential for strong and fresh leadership. That leadership must begin here in America but it can also restore needed confidence in our vision, our strength, and our purposes right around the world.”

Ick.

122. ms_xeno - 31 January 2008

[snerk] Think I saw that Perrin link via A Distant Ocean earlier today. I love the part where Perrin explains why he was declared unfit for the talking head circuit. I wish I could buy him a dish of ice cream.

123. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

I love the part where Perrin explains why he was declared unfit for the talking head circuit.

A point of pride, I would think.

124. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008
125. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 January 2008

Rachel Maddow v. Pat Buchanan coming up on MSNBC.

He just SO can’t handle her. .

Catnip …

omg … that is just so fucking funny

126. ms_xeno - 31 January 2008

Bwahahaha !!! Just ducked into Pandagon long enough to skim Marcotte’s convolution fest about why Obama is better than Hilary.

Warning: Put down your food and/or drink before reading. Or take your cue from Gallagher and put some kind of (transparent) protective sheet over the computer first.

127. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

People with blue eyes are mutants. :)

(Mine are brown.)

128. BooHooHooMan - 31 January 2008

Blue Eyed mutants… Sheesh catnip I coulda told you….That was the original Ole Blye Eyes, Uncle Ralph, he drove a 4000 BC Mastadon…
Rough thing, tough, that part of the family that got mixed in with the Hun..Nazi Bastards…

129. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

That was the original Ole Blye Eyes, Uncle Ralph, he drove a 4000 BC Mastadon…

I heard the 3000′s were a much better model.

130. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Israeli reality TV series ‘Survivor’ causing ecological damage

Okay, first of all, who knew the Israelis had their own Survivor show? [insert various versions of that ironic fact here]…

131. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Breaking via AP (no link yet…it’s on the Ha’aretz crawl): 08:51 Pakistan tests medium-range missile capable of carrying nuclear warhead (AP)

Now why would they be doing that and will Bush back his buddy over this one too?

132. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Hillary: The Movie? Get that popcorn ready.

133. marisacat - 31 January 2008

Just a thread:

LINK

134. liberalcatnip - 31 January 2008

Risen, ‘NYT’ Reporter, Gets Subpoena

Mr. Risen’s lawyer, David N. Kelley, who was the United States attorney in Manhattan early in the Bush administration, said in an interview that the subpoena sought the source of information for a specific chapter of the book “State of War.”

The chapter asserted that the C.I.A. had unsuccessfully tried, beginning in the Clinton administration, to infiltrate Iran’s nuclear program.

Hmmm…

135. BooHooHooMan - 31 January 2008

LOL catnip..

I missed the debate… I’m seeing here on the coverage reruns that I missed nothing…about the only thing that raised an eyebrow was what is normally a little standard pander line about trash and slasher films on TV…. I saw it as an opener for his surrogates, I bet they make a play over the weekend on THAT slop… That guy Giustra behind the Bill Brokered uranium Deal in Kazhakstan made a ton of dough on Lions Gate, maker of shitty chainsaw movies and such….

What a weak line of attack if they do it…. But not surprising at all…
NONE of these fuckers are going to touch the corrupt to the core Funny Money Shit funneled through , going on in Foundations, “Blind Trusts” , “Non-Profits”, Consultancies, etc..let alone the campaigns themselves where , Christ, even LOSERS like Shrumm have made personal fortunes on them…I bet Trippi is another hail fellow well met whose comfortable retirement is already assured.

He who lives in Glass houses and all that… …


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