On to Tejas!… 19 February 2008
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.trackback
…and Ohio!, but it does not fit the pic!
I was going to post his victory speech, but then it is looong. Maybe excerpts later, after I read it.
[sorry for the delay, the back pages at WP are mess tonight...]
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Oooh! Handsome in that hat!
I harken back to that period of The Laugh. Remember not too long ago when Hillary was, like, on every morning show on a Sunday, it seemed, and she was at that point in her queenly ascent when she felt she could damn well answer any question put to her with not words, but laughter. Laugh laugh laugh. Ha ha ha. World on a string, string around my finger.
You couldve put up five split screens and she was laughing at George and Tim and Wolf and Bob and Tweets. Not laughing at them, ha ha you silly pundit. Laughing at us.
I hated that laughing phase. Not because she was feeling prematurely giddy with victory. It was because it was her way of saying she felt she no longer needed to pretend she cared enough to respond. And she does that quite well, not listening. (Only in need do we get the concerned nodding, tilted head, softened voice. Listening tours. Questions welcome. They shut down in a flash when the need for a boost no longer exists. Up with the drawbridge!) I know that all too well from her months of behavior around the war.
Well, she aint laughing now.
(I feel the need to transport this amazing vision from the end of the last thread. Please excuse.)
Hark! I see a pantsuit flying by my window. Whizzing erratically, like a balloon losing air
The cackle. God it was awful.
She is going ot be as strange in her descent as in her … rise. Or whatever that was.
Miss D last thread:
Perhaps by way Aristotle:
We are political animals because we’ve come to govern ourselves – this nature manifests itself in history. I do, after all, loosely believe in teleology – that our truths as human beings become evident through history, though not in a fixed Aristotelian or Hegelian sense. So ‘actual politics’, for me, means the manner in which we should govern ourselves, according to the truths about humanity that have been manifest in history. And the manner in which, at least I [as I cannot speak for anyone else], believe we should govern ourselves is not reactionary, but small d democrat, bordering on the socialist/anarchism exemplified by folks like Rosa Luxemburg.
Suspicion of Obama and a cynical view of the possible in America, as currently constructed, does not equal reactionary politics.
The Victory speech.
Just starting it and laughing already. It opens with voting instructions. Applause. More instructions… Yes We can! More instructions. Applause.
LOL
Opps
here is the link to it
That was a very strange speech. Starts off wobbly and then veers to the stump speech, then fizzles a bit and he gets hoarse. He jumps to life a bit at the end thankfully.
lucid, I’m not exactly ignorant on the pronouncements of the ancients.
“So ‘actual politics’, for me, means the manner in which we should govern ourselves, according to the truths about humanity that have been manifest in history. And the manner in which, at least I [as I cannot speak for anyone else], believe we should govern ourselves is not reactionary, but small d democrat, bordering on the socialist/anarchism exemplified by folks like Rosa Luxemburg.”
what a boxing match: Obama v. Rosa Luxemborg.
Which smacks of the quioxotic? At this time and place? That’s all I mean to say.
Miss D, I wasn’t suggesting you were, but people define politics differently & from your original response it would appear you define politics differently from me.
I have no problem with being quixotic, nor do I think it is wrong. After all, your man Obama is the one always talking about hope… We just hope for different things.
Sorry I missed Enola, Lucid– how was it?
One other question is it KWIX otic or KEY otic?
And no taMAYto /tah MAh to jokes…
BHHM. Fun. got a radio interview & the booker wants to take into Maryland/DC/ Jersey as well.
KWIX
Sweet.
argh
Someone reminded me they have two debates coming.
I completely forgot them. Sort of put her in the linen drawer and forgot her.
Things are looking up… the US shooots down the dying satellite tomorrow. I just spied a headline reminder over on the right hand column.
Here’s the video of Tweety asking Kirk Watson to name Obama’s legislative accomplishments.
The dkos spin on that Kirk Watson incident is pathetic ie. who is this guy? did they just find him in a hallway somewhere? etc. When his endorsement was announced last week in TX, it was big news. Suddenly, he’s Mr Nobody. lol
anyone want to place bets on whether we even manage to hit the satellite?
Re the sateliite
the whole thing makes me think of Dr Strangelove, in reverse.
Good Luck to them all!
The expected headline: Clinton’s election night speech fails to mention election (evil evil nasty Hillary!)
The update: “CNN’s Mike Roselli reports that after their speeches ended, Clinton called Obama to offer private congratulations before she headed back to New York.”
Well, if my place is vaporized tomorrow, at least I’ll know what happened.
CNN:
HI 8% reporting
Obama 77%
Clinton 23%
Nightline showed him outside some venue in … Idaho I think it was, cold, spitting snow. Shaking hands and saying
Pray for me, just keep praying for me, create a cocoon of prayer around me
and he made a little shelter shape with his hands.
so. off. the. bus.
Pray for me, just keep praying for me, create a cocoon of prayer around me
I saw that too. I wonder which century it will be when politics is finally divorced from religion. Wake me up then.
If “Washington is a place where good ideas go to die”, why is Obama in Washington?
Now Obama’s borrowing words from Napolitano:
well I think what I always think when the Dems have their collective asses and heads in the sand… the two being one inside the other:
The Republicans are laughing.
Watson’s a Texas state senator, district 14, which includes almost all of austin, including UT. elected in 2006. Before that he ran for Texas Attorney General, and lost. And before that he was mayor of Austin for a few years, up until 2001 or something. Got his law degee at Baylor university, law review editor, and after a while started a firm specializing in medical malpractice. Got his start in politics as travis county donk party chair then an Anne Richards appointee, probably as a poltical favor, trial lawyer money and all.
Tweety probably set the dude up from the get-go. I’m sure watson’d like to move out of the state into national politics and saw an opportunity to ride him some wild bucking coattails and get his face on the teevee.
The epitath on his political tombstone reads “the seductive allure of the mic and camera were his ultimate downfall”.
if you listen carefully you’ll hear hillary cackling from all the way from down here. she has to be enjoying that.
whats i find amusing is Texas Monthly, the local glossy advertising-focused fishwrap, named him rookie of the year in the senate for 2007.
boy did they get that right.
and saw an opportunity to ride him some wild bucking coattails and get his face on the teevee.
I laughed so hard I choked. Still gasping.
That ended well for Mr State Senator.
named him rookie of the year in the senate for 2007.
boy did they get that right.
rofl
The Republicans are laughing.
I think the Republicans have a chance (especially if they go negative and try to lower the voting turnout) but McCain looked so old and so tired last night.
Justin Raimondo seems to have jumped from Ron Paul to Obama
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/18/obama-and-the-lobby/#comments
what a boxing match: Obama v. Rosa Luxemborg.
Kos would call out the Freikorps to prove how much he supports the troops.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freikorps
Never start the morning without a good violation of Godwins Law.
Duty Calls
Duty Calls
Hey. Some flame wars can actually save western civilization or destroy it (my preference).
I think we’re in the job-seeking stage of Obama support now, folks.
Actually I’ve been trying to figure out if Obama or Hillary being president would make my life easier. I work in higher ed, and whenever a Democratic president blows into office there’s always this huge domino effect in the higher ed world as academics stream to Washington and leave empty spaces behind, which are filled by other academics, who in turn leave jobs behind that are filled by other academics, etc… I kind of need a break from certain administrators (you know, just for my own sanity), and I think they’re not necessarily aligned with the Clintons, so Obama being president could be a good thing for me after all. He doesn’t seem to have much of a coterie built up yet and so I predict a lot of come-to-Jesus moments for people who were sitting on the fence. Big job market opening up for academic administrators everywhere.
just to clarify – I am not seeking a job in the Obama administration – I just want certain people to seek jobs in the Obama administration.
Given that religion has developed historically as a means for aristocracy to a). cling to political power and b).enforce social mores consistent with aristocracy, I kind of doubt that day will come until humanity loses faith.
39. True. Looks like I’ll be napping longer than Rip Van Winkle.
Will Texas be New Hampshire in a Stetson?
Will Ohio go Hillary?
Will McCain and acolytes (including Chanel, the wife) successfully swiftboat Obama to failure?
Morning after, sobering thoughts.
Hawaii was the biggest percentage blowout yet, no?
Chuck Schumer gave Hill a big “awwww, feel better kid, Im here for ya!” hug. Spending a little time in her home state (huh?), New York.
Hillary’s home state is Illinois. Glenview, Illinois.
And here is a snip from that Raimondo you linked to, HCfM:
Yeah, that’s what I was talking about in the last thread, top post.
Despite all the feel-good, “all of us comin’ together now” music being made around the Obama movement, let us not forget how incredibly stupid a big bloc of the populace can be… scaremongering works quite well on our folks. McCain is so primed to fertilize it, too, with his tons of McCainshite. I suspect the Hussein name and all the crap they can attach to it to generate fear and hatred for Obama is going to be an irresistible tool for them to use against him.
(I see “my friend” Joe Liebs as McCain’s National Security Advisor… twin peas in a rotten pod, Israel firsters, make fear, make war on the ME – it’s their thing.)
I too feel that Obama, despite his words (the choke collar demands it now – Wexler, et al), is a better bet in terms of dealing with the ME than Hillary. Natural inclination. Less history dancing with the Lobby, etc.
It is for that reason that they will try to paint him as an Arabist, a sympathizer, to cow him into as tight space as possible. They are all about that tight space. And Nancy Pelosi and crew will aid and abet.
They will summon the ghost of Tom Lantos.
Too bad we dont have a movement hip enough and active enough to speak out against those forces.
Just heard on Cspan’s hotline report that SNL, writers back on board and raring to go, are still searching for the right someone to play Obama.
Any ideaRs?
And still nothing about the economy. Let’s face it: Obama’s Big Bloc is going to be cut in two by
the sagging economy. I just don’t see any genuine economic solidarity there, other than vague lip service about “we must restore the Middle Class,
must renew the American Dream…” Yes, I’m cynical but also realistic. This may be a big bloc of unhappy yet hopeful people, but there is not much in common when it comes to economic interests. Too many pieces of the puzzle have gone unexamined. I do not expect the coming general election to throw much light on it either.
43. Park Ridge, Ill., I think.
45. I agree.
Nancy and crew?
It is my take Nancy is silently behind Obama. All her nearest and dearest out here have endorsed Obama. (Poor Lynn Woolsey knuckled under to HRC, under what inducement I have no idea… but as I say, disband the Out of Iraq Group and apologise for having been a useless sideshow)
Miller and Zoe Logren sometime ago, then later Eshoo and others.
And believe me Nancy is one of the foremost israel firsters. As is almost all of congress… not nooz.
lofgren… not logren
The Israeli lobby has nothing to fear from Obama.
(I see “my friend” Joe Liebs as McCain’s National Security Advisor..
Or VP. I can just imagine those two in charge of the WH. What a nightmare.
hawaii’s margin was still not as big as idaho’s 80-17 blowout.
Tim Meadows would have been awesome to play Obama – and not just because he’s black, of course, but because he rather resembles him.
Well, Nancy is definitely an AIPAC cheerleader, a ringleader in Congress, even, when it comes to stepping up to protect the Lobby, and she may silently be behind Obama — I thought that might be the case too, from her recent remarks about superdelegates, probably — but that doesnt mean she throws her support behind him on that point. There are lots of other reasons why she would choose him over Hillary, things that might be in the file marked “never leave my lips,” of course, but which could leak out in ‘unsaid’ ways, nevertheless.
There I go, ignoring Idaho! (wu ming). It never even registered.
I couldnt see the potatoes for the Hibiscus.
I watch SNL so infrequently that I had no idea who Tim Meadows was. Just googled a whole file of him playing all his characters on SNL.
This one was the first one I came up with where he looks sort of Obamaish… Playing Leo Terrell, of all people.
http://snl.jt.org/imp.php?i=1429
For some reason, they havent chosen him. God knows, he’s played tons of political figures.
Bring back the ‘ladies man’… /ducks
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by Miss Devore on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 10:46:04 AM EST
if only people could know how innocuous they are.
is this site in lockdown for Hillary?
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by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 11:12:17 AM EST
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by Jeralyn on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 12:13:15 PM EST
Yeah, his language can be very disappointing, catnip. From your link, there’s this for an e.g.: “Gaza is governed by Hamas, which is a terrorist organization sworn to Israel’s destruction, and Israeli civilians are being bombarded on an almost daily basis.”
Not that they havent done terroristic things, but then, so has Israel. Often. So has Fatah. So have we. Israel’s very theft of land, and maintenence of the spoils by force, is terrorism. And when Hamas tried to govern and take baby steps away from its hardline statement that it would not accept Israel, of course, this was not nurtured (by the coalition of the US and Israel and Fatah) but crushed in order to maintain the image of Hamas as only a force for destruction, better to do so, because they are not going to be easy partners to strongarm in negotiations. Yeah. It sucks.
But we who still play in “we choose from what’s there,” many of us, I believe, feel he has the best chance of doing the least damage, and possibly even some good. I am skeptical and I am hopeful at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive. All we can do is wait and see, IF he ever gets to the WH. We certainly know what the score will be if McCain gets there.
well it is merely my opinion, but the Miller endorsement is the clue. Wihtout Nancy he would have stayed neutral. Certainly many out here see his endorse as backed by her.
Who knows.
breaking the broken news………………
lucid, #5:
…Suspicion of Obama and a cynical view of the possible in America, as currently constructed, does not equal reactionary politics.
Preach it.
BTW, I’m going to renounce my non-violent tendencies if I read anywhere one more time one more bleating jaggoff informing me that they can’t vote Green this time because we have to get the GOP out and this IS SO IMPORTANT AND SPECIAL so COME BACK IN FOUR YEARS. Four decades. Whatever.
Even the Dan Savage don’t-vote-for-Greens-because-they-smell tirade is less of an insult to my intelligence than this bullshit.
Dear Dems,
If Gore had been elected for two terms you would now be all over me prattling about how Gore is better than Jesus and you can’t vote for my candidate because JesusGore’s golden edifices cannot endure so much as a single smack with a plastic spoon from some icky Green who smells. Come back in forty years.
I may be an asshole but I’m not stupid. So take your fake demurring about 3rd Parties and shove it where the sun don’t shine. Now.
Regards,
ms_xeno
And now, a brief break courtesy of Beverly “Guitar” Watkins. Drink it up, blues fans.
Also I’m drinking homemade bloody Mary mix, sans vodka, because if I start drinking because of this campaign I may not be able to stop. :/
#47 Last time they needed someone to play Obama on SNL he came on and did the cameo himself.
Whyy does the Obama pic at the top remind me so much of Cleavon Little in “Blazing Saddles”?
Yeah, I can just see him singing like Cleavon Little too.
I get no kick from champagne
Mere alcohol doesn’t thrill me at all
So tell me why should it be true
That I get a kick out of you
Some get their kicks from cocaine —
WUUUUURP -
No let’s sing something else.
Whyy does the Obama pic at the top remind me so much of Cleavon Little in “Blazing Saddles”?
They’re voting for me now instead of Hillary
The New Hampshire Primary
Lessig considering a run for Congress:
Lessig ’08
A FP post by mcjoan on dkos: “We should have impeached Gonzales”.
I’m sorry, but isn’t that impeachment porn?
pffft…
WTF McCain’s staff “intervened to protect him from himself”?
Shit.
MSNBC broke into their broadcast to announce it.
Then again, looking at the article Olbermann seems to be laying it on a bit thick.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Brrreaking: For McCain, Self-Confidence on Ethics Poses Its Own Risk
Sex, drugs and rock ‘roll. Okay, not really.
So, who’s pushing this story? The disgruntled Repubs or the Dems?
Jeebus! MSNBC Breaking that NY Times reporting McCain and female lobbyist Vicki Iseman in ‘romantic relationship’.
Jeebus! MSNBC Breaking that NY Times reporting McCain and female lobbyist Vicki Iseman in ‘romantic relationship’.
I had kind of the same reaction. I was HOLY SHIT THEY SHOT KENNEDY!!!
76. I thought it was odd that this couldn’t have waited until the top of the hour. Richard Wolfe saying on MSNBC said the NYT has been sitting on this story. Why?
Rinnnnnnnggggggggg:
Michell Obama: Hey Squirrel Killer How’s it going.
Mike Huckabee: Great Michelle. Have you been reading that daily Bible verse like I’ve suggested.
Michelle: Every day Mike.
Mike Huckabee: So I’ve pulled the trigger. I just thought you’d like to know that little ashamed of your country thing is going to be forgotten about real quick.
Michelle: Praise the Lord
Huckabee: Praise the Lord
So, which McCain adviser who was on board with him back then has decided to turn and reveal this? Hmmm…
(lol HcfM)
Prediction: McCain will say this is “old news”, smile, and then walk away. He seems to think his odd little smile can get him through anything.
Well I’ll be damned…
McCain sure likes em white, doesn’t he?
Olbermann is rubbing himself up against the desk he’s so excited.
They have the penis pump receipt…LOL…
It’s not mine baaaby!!
And, of course, the bonus for the Obama camp is what’s happening on MSNBC right now: resurrecting the ghost of Monica Lewinsky.
Mitt Romney (strangling his teddy bear): OH DAMN. DAMN. MOTHERFUCKER DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL
Kennedy’s dead? I never liked her on MTV.
Ewww: “As long as you don’t have a drip, drip, drip…” – Alter on MSNBC
Double entendre.
It can’t be the right that’s doing this. They would have pulled the trigger before Romney dropped out.
Always Barbie, never Midge. sigh.
They were going to examine McCain’s past history? I thought everything stops once you are lauded as a war hero.
Bill Bennett was involved in shushing the story? This is getting interesting. (Is that the CNN pundit, Bill Bennett?)
that mental image is going to take a while to purge.
91 Bob Bennett CLINTON’s lawyer….
Oh! Thanks BHHM.
Okay then…why did Bob want it kept under wraps?
HCfM is a riot.
They’ve got Gramps Buchanan on from a payphone somewhere. Boy, his whining is just as annoying off camera.
And the pic the NYT has up is of John McCain in 1991 re: the Keating S&L scandal. Someone is really trying hard to go after little Johnny’s skeletons. Interesting that the NYT will get all of the blame when you have to wonder who’s really behind this.
Okay then…why did Bob want it kept under wraps?
Because if it drives independents away from McCain in upcoming contests, they might head to Obama.
They’ve got Gramps Buchanan on from a payphone somewhere.
Can’t Mara Salvatrucha just kidnap him or something.
Latin Gangbanger: So gringo. We’re going to watch a little Mexican TV aren’t we gringo.
(turns on TV)
You’re going to enjoy Mexican soap operas gringo.
Buchanan: I”ll die before I look at that.
(hears the sound of Spanish and puts his fingers in his ears and starts singing)
OH SAY CAN YOU SEE DEUTCHLAND DEUTCHLAND UBER ALLES
Because if it drives independents away from McCain in upcoming contests, they might head to Obama.
That makes sense but the timeline of this story might not support that because Drudge apparently “broke” this story in December (which leads me to believe this is fueled by the right) and Hillary was well ahead in the polls at the time.
Now that I think of it, I think this whole thing is really bad for Clinton’s campaign – the idea that their lawyer wanted to suppress the story, the references now to Monica Lewinsky, the focus on lobbyists (one of Obama’s talking points against Clinton). It actually looks like this will hurt Hillary more than McCain.
Oh, I didn’t catch that Drudge had already pushed it.
She does look an awful lot like his wife.
My bet where this is coming from? TEH CLINTON and or her sector.
Great way to give Hillary as damsel in distress story a rest, garner sympathy for spurned wives , a news cycle breather which gets the negative news scrutiny up off her a bit without going neg on BO…Seems to me, anything they can do to staunch her negative press now is a must…
That said, I thought the squirrels in my yard were working for Romney…
nu thred…
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and thanks to HCfM and catnip for the NYT link…
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