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On to Tejas!… 19 February 2008

Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.
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…and Ohio!, but it does not fit the pic!

 I was going to post his victory speech, but then it is looong.  Maybe excerpts later, after I read it.

[sorry for the delay, the back pages at WP are mess tonight...]

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1. NYCee - 19 February 2008

Oooh! Handsome in that hat!

2. NYCee - 19 February 2008

I harken back to that period of The Laugh. Remember not too long ago when Hillary was, like, on every morning show on a Sunday, it seemed, and she was at that point in her queenly ascent when she felt she could damn well answer any question put to her with not words, but laughter. Laugh laugh laugh. Ha ha ha. World on a string, string around my finger.

You couldve put up five split screens and she was laughing at George and Tim and Wolf and Bob and Tweets. Not laughing at them, ha ha you silly pundit. Laughing at us.

I hated that laughing phase. Not because she was feeling prematurely giddy with victory. It was because it was her way of saying she felt she no longer needed to pretend she cared enough to respond. And she does that quite well, not listening. (Only in need do we get the concerned nodding, tilted head, softened voice. Listening tours. Questions welcome. They shut down in a flash when the need for a boost no longer exists. Up with the drawbridge!) I know that all too well from her months of behavior around the war.

Well, she aint laughing now.

3. NYCee - 19 February 2008

(I feel the need to transport this amazing vision from the end of the last thread. Please excuse.)

Hark! I see a pantsuit flying by my window. Whizzing erratically, like a balloon losing air

4. marisacat - 19 February 2008

The cackle. God it was awful.

She is going ot be as strange in her descent as in her … rise. Or whatever that was.

5. lucid - 19 February 2008

Miss D last thread:

And what do you mean by “actual politics”?

Perhaps by way Aristotle:

If the earlier forms of society are natural, so is the state, for it is the end of them, and the nature of a thing is its end. For what each thing is when fully developed, we call its nature… Hence it is evident that the state is a creation of nature, and that man is by nature a political animal

We are political animals because we’ve come to govern ourselves – this nature manifests itself in history. I do, after all, loosely believe in teleology – that our truths as human beings become evident through history, though not in a fixed Aristotelian or Hegelian sense. So ‘actual politics’, for me, means the manner in which we should govern ourselves, according to the truths about humanity that have been manifest in history. And the manner in which, at least I [as I cannot speak for anyone else], believe we should govern ourselves is not reactionary, but small d democrat, bordering on the socialist/anarchism exemplified by folks like Rosa Luxemburg.

Suspicion of Obama and a cynical view of the possible in America, as currently constructed, does not equal reactionary politics.

6. marisacat - 19 February 2008

The Victory speech.

Just starting it and laughing already. It opens with voting instructions. Applause. More instructions… Yes We can! More instructions. Applause.

LOL

7. marisacat - 19 February 2008
8. wilfred - 19 February 2008

That was a very strange speech. Starts off wobbly and then veers to the stump speech, then fizzles a bit and he gets hoarse. He jumps to life a bit at the end thankfully.

9. Miss Devore - 19 February 2008

lucid, I’m not exactly ignorant on the pronouncements of the ancients.

“So ‘actual politics’, for me, means the manner in which we should govern ourselves, according to the truths about humanity that have been manifest in history. And the manner in which, at least I [as I cannot speak for anyone else], believe we should govern ourselves is not reactionary, but small d democrat, bordering on the socialist/anarchism exemplified by folks like Rosa Luxemburg.”

what a boxing match: Obama v. Rosa Luxemborg.

Which smacks of the quioxotic? At this time and place? That’s all I mean to say.

10. lucid - 19 February 2008

Miss D, I wasn’t suggesting you were, but people define politics differently & from your original response it would appear you define politics differently from me.

I have no problem with being quixotic, nor do I think it is wrong. After all, your man Obama is the one always talking about hope… We just hope for different things.

11. BooHooHooMan - 19 February 2008

Sorry I missed Enola, Lucid– how was it?

12. BooHooHooMan - 19 February 2008

One other question is it KWIX otic or KEY otic?

And no taMAYto /tah MAh to jokes…

13. lucid - 19 February 2008

BHHM. Fun. got a radio interview & the booker wants to take into Maryland/DC/ Jersey as well.

14. lucid - 19 February 2008

KWIX

15. BooHooHooMan - 19 February 2008

Sweet.

16. marisacat - 19 February 2008

argh

Someone reminded me they have two debates coming.

I completely forgot them. Sort of put her in the linen drawer and forgot her.

17. marisacat - 19 February 2008

Things are looking up… the US shooots down the dying satellite tomorrow. I just spied a headline reminder over on the right hand column.

18. liberalcatnip - 19 February 2008

Here’s the video of Tweety asking Kirk Watson to name Obama’s legislative accomplishments.

19. liberalcatnip - 19 February 2008

The dkos spin on that Kirk Watson incident is pathetic ie. who is this guy? did they just find him in a hallway somewhere? etc. When his endorsement was announced last week in TX, it was big news. Suddenly, he’s Mr Nobody. lol

20. wu ming - 19 February 2008

anyone want to place bets on whether we even manage to hit the satellite?

21. marisacat - 19 February 2008

Re the sateliite

the whole thing makes me think of Dr Strangelove, in reverse.

Good Luck to them all!

22. liberalcatnip - 19 February 2008

The expected headline: Clinton’s election night speech fails to mention election (evil evil nasty Hillary!)

The update: “CNN’s Mike Roselli reports that after their speeches ended, Clinton called Obama to offer private congratulations before she headed back to New York.”

23. liberalcatnip - 19 February 2008

Well, if my place is vaporized tomorrow, at least I’ll know what happened.

24. liberalcatnip - 19 February 2008

CNN:

HI 8% reporting
Obama 77%
Clinton 23%

25. marisacat - 19 February 2008

Nightline showed him outside some venue in … Idaho I think it was, cold, spitting snow. Shaking hands and saying

Pray for me, just keep praying for me, create a cocoon of prayer around me

and he made a little shelter shape with his hands.

so. off. the. bus.

26. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

Pray for me, just keep praying for me, create a cocoon of prayer around me

I saw that too. I wonder which century it will be when politics is finally divorced from religion. Wake me up then.

27. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

If “Washington is a place where good ideas go to die”, why is Obama in Washington?

28. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

Now Obama’s borrowing words from Napolitano:

“All (Washington) D.C. is is a place where good ideas go to die,” said Napolitano, a two-term Democrat. “I believe we need a new message of hope and solidarity. . . . To me, Senator Obama is evidence of that change we need.”

29. marisacat - 20 February 2008

well I think what I always think when the Dems have their collective asses and heads in the sand… the two being one inside the other:

The Republicans are laughing.

30. bayprairie - 20 February 2008

Watson’s a Texas state senator, district 14, which includes almost all of austin, including UT. elected in 2006. Before that he ran for Texas Attorney General, and lost. And before that he was mayor of Austin for a few years, up until 2001 or something. Got his law degee at Baylor university, law review editor, and after a while started a firm specializing in medical malpractice. Got his start in politics as travis county donk party chair then an Anne Richards appointee, probably as a poltical favor, trial lawyer money and all.

Tweety probably set the dude up from the get-go. I’m sure watson’d like to move out of the state into national politics and saw an opportunity to ride him some wild bucking coattails and get his face on the teevee.

The epitath on his political tombstone reads “the seductive allure of the mic and camera were his ultimate downfall”.

if you listen carefully you’ll hear hillary cackling from all the way from down here. she has to be enjoying that.

whats i find amusing is Texas Monthly, the local glossy advertising-focused fishwrap, named him rookie of the year in the senate for 2007.

boy did they get that right.

31. marisacat - 20 February 2008

and saw an opportunity to ride him some wild bucking coattails and get his face on the teevee.

I laughed so hard I choked. Still gasping.

That ended well for Mr State Senator.

32. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

named him rookie of the year in the senate for 2007.

boy did they get that right.

rofl

33. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

The Republicans are laughing.

I think the Republicans have a chance (especially if they go negative and try to lower the voting turnout) but McCain looked so old and so tired last night.

34. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

Justin Raimondo seems to have jumped from Ron Paul to Obama

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/18/obama-and-the-lobby/#comments

35. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

what a boxing match: Obama v. Rosa Luxemborg.

Kos would call out the Freikorps to prove how much he supports the troops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freikorps

Never start the morning without a good violation of Godwins Law.

36. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 February 2008
37. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

Duty Calls

Hey. Some flame wars can actually save western civilization or destroy it (my preference).

38. NYCO - 20 February 2008

I think we’re in the job-seeking stage of Obama support now, folks.

Actually I’ve been trying to figure out if Obama or Hillary being president would make my life easier. I work in higher ed, and whenever a Democratic president blows into office there’s always this huge domino effect in the higher ed world as academics stream to Washington and leave empty spaces behind, which are filled by other academics, who in turn leave jobs behind that are filled by other academics, etc… I kind of need a break from certain administrators (you know, just for my own sanity), and I think they’re not necessarily aligned with the Clintons, so Obama being president could be a good thing for me after all. He doesn’t seem to have much of a coterie built up yet and so I predict a lot of come-to-Jesus moments for people who were sitting on the fence. Big job market opening up for academic administrators everywhere.

39. NYCO - 20 February 2008

just to clarify – I am not seeking a job in the Obama administration – I just want certain people to seek jobs in the Obama administration. :-)

40. lucid - 20 February 2008

I wonder which century it will be when politics is finally divorced from religion.

Given that religion has developed historically as a means for aristocracy to a). cling to political power and b).enforce social mores consistent with aristocracy, I kind of doubt that day will come until humanity loses faith.

41. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

39. True. Looks like I’ll be napping longer than Rip Van Winkle.

42. NYCee - 20 February 2008

Will Texas be New Hampshire in a Stetson?

Will Ohio go Hillary?

Will McCain and acolytes (including Chanel, the wife) successfully swiftboat Obama to failure?

Morning after, sobering thoughts.

43. NYCee - 20 February 2008

Hawaii was the biggest percentage blowout yet, no?

Chuck Schumer gave Hill a big “awwww, feel better kid, Im here for ya!” hug. Spending a little time in her home state (huh?), New York.

44. mattes - 20 February 2008

Hillary’s home state is Illinois. Glenview, Illinois.

45. NYCee - 20 February 2008

And here is a snip from that Raimondo you linked to, HCfM:

Weiss goes on to say that progressives of his sort “aren’t worried about Obama’s lip service re Israel. They know in their hearts that a man with a Muslim parent who grew up in, among other places, the largest Muslim country on the planet, Indonesia, cares about Palestinian human rights. And what’s most important– he will owe the lobby nothing….”

Which is precisely why the Obama campaign had better get ready for the Barack Hussein Obama business — that is, if the Clintonites haven’t already started it before this gets posted. Yet this much-anticipated low blow is likely to boomerang if anyone, of either party, dares say it out loud: the backlash will help Obama, or, at least, blow away his enemies, who will finally discover that change is not a platitude.

Yeah, that’s what I was talking about in the last thread, top post.

Despite all the feel-good, “all of us comin’ together now” music being made around the Obama movement, let us not forget how incredibly stupid a big bloc of the populace can be… scaremongering works quite well on our folks. McCain is so primed to fertilize it, too, with his tons of McCainshite. I suspect the Hussein name and all the crap they can attach to it to generate fear and hatred for Obama is going to be an irresistible tool for them to use against him.

(I see “my friend” Joe Liebs as McCain’s National Security Advisor… twin peas in a rotten pod, Israel firsters, make fear, make war on the ME – it’s their thing.)

46. NYCee - 20 February 2008

I too feel that Obama, despite his words (the choke collar demands it now – Wexler, et al), is a better bet in terms of dealing with the ME than Hillary. Natural inclination. Less history dancing with the Lobby, etc.

It is for that reason that they will try to paint him as an Arabist, a sympathizer, to cow him into as tight space as possible. They are all about that tight space. And Nancy Pelosi and crew will aid and abet.

They will summon the ghost of Tom Lantos.

Too bad we dont have a movement hip enough and active enough to speak out against those forces.

47. NYCee - 20 February 2008

Just heard on Cspan’s hotline report that SNL, writers back on board and raring to go, are still searching for the right someone to play Obama.

Any ideaRs?

48. NYCO - 20 February 2008

And still nothing about the economy. Let’s face it: Obama’s Big Bloc is going to be cut in two by
the sagging economy. I just don’t see any genuine economic solidarity there, other than vague lip service about “we must restore the Middle Class,
must renew the American Dream…” Yes, I’m cynical but also realistic. This may be a big bloc of unhappy yet hopeful people, but there is not much in common when it comes to economic interests. Too many pieces of the puzzle have gone unexamined. I do not expect the coming general election to throw much light on it either.

49. Miss Devore - 20 February 2008

43. Park Ridge, Ill., I think.

45. I agree.

50. marisacat - 20 February 2008

Nancy and crew?

It is my take Nancy is silently behind Obama. All her nearest and dearest out here have endorsed Obama. (Poor Lynn Woolsey knuckled under to HRC, under what inducement I have no idea… but as I say, disband the Out of Iraq Group and apologise for having been a useless sideshow)

Miller and Zoe Logren sometime ago, then later Eshoo and others.

And believe me Nancy is one of the foremost israel firsters. As is almost all of congress… not nooz.

51. marisacat - 20 February 2008

lofgren… not logren

52. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

The Israeli lobby has nothing to fear from Obama.

(I see “my friend” Joe Liebs as McCain’s National Security Advisor..

Or VP. I can just imagine those two in charge of the WH. What a nightmare.

53. wu ming - 20 February 2008

hawaii’s margin was still not as big as idaho’s 80-17 blowout.

54. NYCO - 20 February 2008

Tim Meadows would have been awesome to play Obama – and not just because he’s black, of course, but because he rather resembles him.

55. NYCee - 20 February 2008

Well, Nancy is definitely an AIPAC cheerleader, a ringleader in Congress, even, when it comes to stepping up to protect the Lobby, and she may silently be behind Obama — I thought that might be the case too, from her recent remarks about superdelegates, probably — but that doesnt mean she throws her support behind him on that point. There are lots of other reasons why she would choose him over Hillary, things that might be in the file marked “never leave my lips,” of course, but which could leak out in ‘unsaid’ ways, nevertheless.

56. NYCee - 20 February 2008

There I go, ignoring Idaho! (wu ming). It never even registered.

I couldnt see the potatoes for the Hibiscus.

57. NYCee - 20 February 2008

I watch SNL so infrequently that I had no idea who Tim Meadows was. Just googled a whole file of him playing all his characters on SNL.

This one was the first one I came up with where he looks sort of Obamaish… Playing Leo Terrell, of all people.

http://snl.jt.org/imp.php?i=1429

For some reason, they havent chosen him. God knows, he’s played tons of political figures.

58. lucid - 20 February 2008

writers back on board and raring to go, are still searching for the right someone to play Obama.

Bring back the ‘ladies man’… /ducks

59. Miss Devore - 20 February 2008

” stop deleting my comments! (none / 0) (#15)
by Miss Devore on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 10:46:04 AM EST
if only people could know how innocuous they are.

is this site in lockdown for Hillary?

[ Reply to This ]

[new] I did not delete your comments (5.00 / 1) (#19)
by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 11:12:17 AM EST
unless you are also Goodbye Hillary.

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by Jeralyn on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 12:13:15 PM EST

60. NYCee - 20 February 2008

Yeah, his language can be very disappointing, catnip. From your link, there’s this for an e.g.: “Gaza is governed by Hamas, which is a terrorist organization sworn to Israel’s destruction, and Israeli civilians are being bombarded on an almost daily basis.”

Not that they havent done terroristic things, but then, so has Israel. Often. So has Fatah. So have we. Israel’s very theft of land, and maintenence of the spoils by force, is terrorism. And when Hamas tried to govern and take baby steps away from its hardline statement that it would not accept Israel, of course, this was not nurtured (by the coalition of the US and Israel and Fatah) but crushed in order to maintain the image of Hamas as only a force for destruction, better to do so, because they are not going to be easy partners to strongarm in negotiations. Yeah. It sucks.

But we who still play in “we choose from what’s there,” many of us, I believe, feel he has the best chance of doing the least damage, and possibly even some good. I am skeptical and I am hopeful at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive. All we can do is wait and see, IF he ever gets to the WH. We certainly know what the score will be if McCain gets there.

61. marisacat - 20 February 2008

well it is merely my opinion, but the Miller endorsement is the clue. Wihtout Nancy he would have stayed neutral. Certainly many out here see his endorse as backed by her.

Who knows.

62. marisacat - 20 February 2008

breaking the broken news………………

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

THE FEDERAL RESERVE LOWERS FORECAST FOR U.S. ECONOMY, AND NOW PREDICTS SLOWER ECONOMIC GROWTH, HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT AND HIGHER RATE OF INFLATION

http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396

63. ms_xeno - 20 February 2008

lucid, #5:

…Suspicion of Obama and a cynical view of the possible in America, as currently constructed, does not equal reactionary politics.

Preach it.

BTW, I’m going to renounce my non-violent tendencies if I read anywhere one more time one more bleating jaggoff informing me that they can’t vote Green this time because we have to get the GOP out and this IS SO IMPORTANT AND SPECIAL so COME BACK IN FOUR YEARS. Four decades. Whatever.

Even the Dan Savage don’t-vote-for-Greens-because-they-smell tirade is less of an insult to my intelligence than this bullshit.

Dear Dems,

If Gore had been elected for two terms you would now be all over me prattling about how Gore is better than Jesus and you can’t vote for my candidate because JesusGore’s golden edifices cannot endure so much as a single smack with a plastic spoon from some icky Green who smells. Come back in forty years.

I may be an asshole but I’m not stupid. So take your fake demurring about 3rd Parties and shove it where the sun don’t shine. Now.

Regards,

ms_xeno

64. ms_xeno - 20 February 2008

And now, a brief break courtesy of Beverly “Guitar” Watkins. Drink it up, blues fans.

Also I’m drinking homemade bloody Mary mix, sans vodka, because if I start drinking because of this campaign I may not be able to stop. :/

65. wilfred - 20 February 2008

#47 Last time they needed someone to play Obama on SNL he came on and did the cameo himself.

66. wozzle - 20 February 2008

Whyy does the Obama pic at the top remind me so much of Cleavon Little in “Blazing Saddles”?

67. NYCO - 20 February 2008

Yeah, I can just see him singing like Cleavon Little too.

I get no kick from champagne
Mere alcohol doesn’t thrill me at all
So tell me why should it be true
That I get a kick out of you

Some get their kicks from cocaine —

WUUUUURP -

No let’s sing something else.

68. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

Whyy does the Obama pic at the top remind me so much of Cleavon Little in “Blazing Saddles”?

They’re voting for me now instead of Hillary

69. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

The New Hampshire Primary

70. raincat100 - 20 February 2008

Lessig considering a run for Congress:

Lessig ’08

71. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

A FP post by mcjoan on dkos: “We should have impeached Gonzales”.

I’m sorry, but isn’t that impeachment porn?

pffft…

72. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

WTF McCain’s staff “intervened to protect him from himself”?

Shit.

MSNBC broke into their broadcast to announce it.

Then again, looking at the article Olbermann seems to be laying it on a bit thick.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

73. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

Brrreaking: For McCain, Self-Confidence on Ethics Poses Its Own Risk

WASHINGTON — Early in Senator John McCain’s first run for the White House eight years ago, waves of anxiety swept through his small circle of advisers.

A female lobbyist had been turning up with him at fund-raisers, in his offices and aboard a client’s corporate jet. Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself — instructing staff members to block the woman’s access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity.

When news organizations reported that Mr. McCain had written letters to government regulators on behalf of the lobbyist’s clients, the former campaign associates said, some aides feared for a time that attention would fall on her involvement.

Mr. McCain, 71, and the lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, 40, both say they never had a romantic relationship. But to his advisers, even the appearance of a close bond with a lobbyist whose clients often had business before the Senate committee Mr. McCain led threatened the story of redemption and rectitude that defined his political identity…

Sex, drugs and rock ‘roll. Okay, not really. ;)

74. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

So, who’s pushing this story? The disgruntled Repubs or the Dems?

75. wilfred - 20 February 2008

Jeebus! MSNBC Breaking that NY Times reporting McCain and female lobbyist Vicki Iseman in ‘romantic relationship’.

76. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

Jeebus! MSNBC Breaking that NY Times reporting McCain and female lobbyist Vicki Iseman in ‘romantic relationship’.

I had kind of the same reaction. I was HOLY SHIT THEY SHOT KENNEDY!!!

77. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

76. I thought it was odd that this couldn’t have waited until the top of the hour. Richard Wolfe saying on MSNBC said the NYT has been sitting on this story. Why?

78. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

Rinnnnnnnggggggggg:

Michell Obama: Hey Squirrel Killer How’s it going.

Mike Huckabee: Great Michelle. Have you been reading that daily Bible verse like I’ve suggested.

Michelle: Every day Mike.

Mike Huckabee: So I’ve pulled the trigger. I just thought you’d like to know that little ashamed of your country thing is going to be forgotten about real quick.

Michelle: Praise the Lord

Huckabee: Praise the Lord

79. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

So, which McCain adviser who was on board with him back then has decided to turn and reveal this? Hmmm…

(lol HcfM)

80. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

Prediction: McCain will say this is “old news”, smile, and then walk away. He seems to think his odd little smile can get him through anything.

81. BooHooHooMan - 20 February 2008

Well I’ll be damned…

82. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

McCain sure likes em white, doesn’t he?

83. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

Olbermann is rubbing himself up against the desk he’s so excited.

84. BooHooHooMan - 20 February 2008

They have the penis pump receipt…LOL…

It’s not mine baaaby!!

85. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

And, of course, the bonus for the Obama camp is what’s happening on MSNBC right now: resurrecting the ghost of Monica Lewinsky.

86. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

Mitt Romney (strangling his teddy bear): OH DAMN. DAMN. MOTHERFUCKER DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL

87. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 February 2008

Kennedy’s dead? I never liked her on MTV.

88. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

Ewww: “As long as you don’t have a drip, drip, drip…” – Alter on MSNBC

Double entendre.

89. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

It can’t be the right that’s doing this. They would have pulled the trigger before Romney dropped out.

90. Miss Devore - 20 February 2008

Always Barbie, never Midge. sigh.

They were going to examine McCain’s past history? I thought everything stops once you are lauded as a war hero.

91. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

Bill Bennett was involved in shushing the story? This is getting interesting. (Is that the CNN pundit, Bill Bennett?)

92. wu ming - 20 February 2008

that mental image is going to take a while to purge.

93. BooHooHooMan - 20 February 2008

91 Bob Bennett CLINTON’s lawyer….

94. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

Oh! Thanks BHHM.

Okay then…why did Bob want it kept under wraps?

95. Miss Devore - 20 February 2008

HCfM is a riot.

96. wilfred - 20 February 2008

They’ve got Gramps Buchanan on from a payphone somewhere. Boy, his whining is just as annoying off camera.

97. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

And the pic the NYT has up is of John McCain in 1991 re: the Keating S&L scandal. Someone is really trying hard to go after little Johnny’s skeletons. Interesting that the NYT will get all of the blame when you have to wonder who’s really behind this.

98. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 February 2008

Okay then…why did Bob want it kept under wraps?

Because if it drives independents away from McCain in upcoming contests, they might head to Obama.

99. Hair Club for Men - 20 February 2008

They’ve got Gramps Buchanan on from a payphone somewhere.

Can’t Mara Salvatrucha just kidnap him or something.

Latin Gangbanger: So gringo. We’re going to watch a little Mexican TV aren’t we gringo.

(turns on TV)

You’re going to enjoy Mexican soap operas gringo.

Buchanan: I”ll die before I look at that.

(hears the sound of Spanish and puts his fingers in his ears and starts singing)

OH SAY CAN YOU SEE DEUTCHLAND DEUTCHLAND UBER ALLES

100. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

Because if it drives independents away from McCain in upcoming contests, they might head to Obama.

That makes sense but the timeline of this story might not support that because Drudge apparently “broke” this story in December (which leads me to believe this is fueled by the right) and Hillary was well ahead in the polls at the time.

101. liberalcatnip - 20 February 2008

Now that I think of it, I think this whole thing is really bad for Clinton’s campaign – the idea that their lawyer wanted to suppress the story, the references now to Monica Lewinsky, the focus on lobbyists (one of Obama’s talking points against Clinton). It actually looks like this will hurt Hillary more than McCain.

102. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 February 2008

Oh, I didn’t catch that Drudge had already pushed it.

She does look an awful lot like his wife.

103. BooHooHooMan - 20 February 2008

My bet where this is coming from? TEH CLINTON and or her sector.

Great way to give Hillary as damsel in distress story a rest, garner sympathy for spurned wives , a news cycle breather which gets the negative news scrutiny up off her a bit without going neg on BO…Seems to me, anything they can do to staunch her negative press now is a must…

That said, I thought the squirrels in my yard were working for Romney…

104. marisacat - 20 February 2008

nu thred…

LINK

and thanks to HCfM and catnip for the NYT link…

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