I don’t know about you……. 23 February 2008
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.trackback
but i am pooped. Too many weeks of too tightly packed news cycles… sturm drang up down over out…
so… just a change (there will be change! be happy!) of mask indication to hold up a thread…
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Cool. Rachel Corrie’s journals have been published. Just ordered a copy.
Maybe I can beat the LGF haters to the web with the first review.
Of course unlike a dirty fucking hippie like Rachel Corrie “Our Troops’ always conduct themselves well overseas.
Veronica’s getting in the papers.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_nm/japan_schoolgirl_dc;_ylt=AtHSnXWGrZPV91eIyMKu.ZYuQE4F
Regarding the GM guy and global warming in the last thread: Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us
FWIW, since the fact that he was part of of the Rumsfeld braintrust doesn’t fill me w/ confidence, but it does jive with other stuff I’ve read about warming’s impact.
The interesting thing about the GM guy going after UCS as not being “real scientists” is how much it reminds me of tobacco execs attacking the scientists in that infamous hearing before Congress. If I was one of his shareholders, I’d want that idiot out on his ass.
Quote of the decade from Arthur Gilroy
http://www.politicalfleshfeast.com/showComment.do?commentId=68204
A lot of people in Latin America hate my guts? How the fuck would you know? If Castro heard me play he’d get out of his sickbed and dance like he was young again.
On for my last Gilroy related post, he’s a self-admitted government operative.
http://www.politicalfleshfeast.com/showComment.do?commentId=67894
Admittedly I’m no big Jazz fan but I’ve never heard of “Arthur Gilroy”.
Nice racket for the State Department. You take a “musician” who can’t make a living otherwise and pay for their trips to the Middle East on the condition they come back and seed the Intertubes with US government propaganda.
A short State Department-sponsored tour. Now that BushCo is on the way out, the PermaGov functionaries are feeling a little frisky. And there we we were.
“Arthur Gilroy” is not his name. It is his grandfther’s name. A long itme ago mayor of NYC
omigoddess…..people do take to the streets:
http://tinyurl.com/3bpwfh
oh and that big govt. operative, Dizzy Gillespie did that same gig for the State dept.
oh and that big govt. operative, Dizzy Gillespie did that same gig for the State dept.
And Gloria Steinhem originally worked for the National Student Assocation (Which was a CIA front).
There’s a reason the government pays for stuff like this.
Maybe “government operative” isn’t a good word. “Embedded cultural worker” might be more accurate.
I remember someone posted a link to an article about Peter Mathiessen here a few months ago.
The government doesn’t hand people bags of money and say “go write propganda” but they don’t fund the arts out of the goodness of their hearts either.
Why is the State Department funding a Jazz orchestra?
I guess it’s part of the whole Karen Hughes let’s make the Arabs see Americans aren’t so bad tour of the Middle East which in and of itself isn’t really what I’d call evil but it’s one sided.
It’s obvious that “Arthur” doesn’t think Egyptian or Muslim culture has anything to offer except anger and threat. Not exactly Jazzlike, is it?
yeah he also ran for president in 1964. He promised that if he were elected, the White House would be renamed “The Blues House,” Ray Charles would be appointed Librarian of Congress, Miles Davis would become the head of the CIA, and Malcolm X the Attorney General. He also said his running mate would be Phyllis Diller.
4–A global consensus -with well over 90% certainty – of those who actually study the subject that .8° C of warming has already been accomplished, and .6″ more is in the pipeline. Much over that and we are committed to catastrophe that couldn’t be fixed for thousands of years.
You have to wonder if these people, with their 1% doctrine on other matters, carry home and car insurance – against unlikely events – or just assume that everything will be okie-dokie.
I am pretty sure the State Dept has done this for a long time.
I don’t think it is anything new.
Obama takes heat for skipping State of the Black Union – in NOLA, yet. Not good optics.
Yeah, not new. Cold War jazz tours (Book review of Satchmo Blows up the World: Jazz Ambassadors Play the Cold War).
Apparently Eisenhower got the jazz ambassador thing started. Funding has gone up a little again (under Karen Hughes, et al). According to this CSM article, the Rhythm Road: American Music Abroad program currently gets $1 million a year.
I have been watching the obama/Tavis thing boil for a bit now over this.
I am wondering what is up, why, and how it will shake down.
Tavis … nto sure if he has confirmed it, but he has gotten death threats over his commentary and discussion of this. America… land of the free and the brave.
Obama did not go last year either. Cornel West called him out from the stage, i recall and Tavis tamped it down. Said they had spoken the previous evening by phone and blah blah, etc. Obama called Cornel shortly afterwards and wrangled an endorsement out of him…
Good luck to all!
Cold War jazz ambassador links gone to the Eisenhower mod pod, I think.
Oops – out now! Thanks.
I think it is more than jazz, think the State Dept fields all sorts of cultural missions.
Think I remember reading in Other Voices Other Rooms many years ago, as a child really, of whatshisname (the In Cold Blood author, names elude me) in Russia/USSR in the 50s with the perfromance of an American play.
I have no problme wtih it… is it used as cover, sure I would assume so.
fwiw, Michelle’s thesis is out from under lock and key.
Truman Capote.
Yes, various cultural exchange programs are funded. (According to the CSM article upthread, the 2007 budget for “public diplomacy” was $465.6 million – peanuts, obviously, compared to the various “bombing and killing” programs.)
Here’s the State Dept site:
http://exchanges.state.gov/education/citizens/culture/
Beats the hell out of hot war, I agree. Even if the occasional Gilroy (or
worse) rides for free.
Crap. I can’t live without preview.
this guy talks about the 50’s background:
http://tinyurl.com/2b9u9a
melvin
think I got it… .6″ instead of gobbldegook…
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20 IB
thanks, yes Truman!
23 Thanks – close enough, degrees, inches, you get the picture.
From Proceed At Your Own Risk, which now requires a password (think capital letter acronyms and password):
Ran across this just as I was warming up to BO a little because of the WU connection.
I give up. It might interest you to know, mcat, that I once worked as a proofreader.
I doubt Arthur Gilmore was asked to come home and do what he just did. But when the government pays your way and controls what you see, as he says they did, (he had minders) they can count on soft Americans going into culture shock and combined with all their fear-mongering propaganda here, a few of them are guaranteed to react the AG has, in a frightened, ignorant way and sprinkle a little more fear and prejudice around.
Some less self-absorbed and more enlightened artists, going with their eyes open (AG claims he was innocent when he left) hopefully will see things as they really are. Not sure in the end how it all benefits the PTBS, but I bet someone profits from the program, somewhere.
Found something paradoxical about that Capote thing here: The Complicated Life of Porgy and Bess
Miss D – Interesting stuff at your link. And funny ending. Photographer to CIA: Take my art, please!
melvin
WP is pretty basic… if it does not recognise soemthing it throws out that bit of gibberish…
fixed the link…
😉
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IB
Muses are Heard… now I remember, LOL more perfectly….
thanks. I read it and did a book report, I think in 8th grade.
Looks like John McCain may be in deeper trouble than having an affair might have caused him. Seems there is a transcript of testimony he gave several years ago in which he contradicts (under oath apparently) what he says now regarding speaking to Paxson before sending the letters McCain sent to the FCC on Paxson’s behalf.
And Paxson himself told the WaPo that he remembers speaking to him also … so big surprise, McCain is not only a liar, but a stupid one.
LOL I just checked in at Pffterpoofters… and see that Gilroy is clocking in the comments … up t 278.
Think last I saw it was around 30.
what a HOOT!
Yes Wapo popped up with Paxson very quickly and the transcript was out as well, early yesterday.
LOL…
GOOD LUCK!
I assume McCain is leafing thru their oppo files.
pff…….
I have long thought of visiting dkos as walking through a kennel full of rabid chihuahuas. pff at first seems more promising, the inmates seem quite a bit brighter on average, but the cage doors are open. It has come to be dominated by the same three or four nuts posting all the time.
pff is loaded with reactionaries, righties, conservatives and whatever else.
And a lot of partisan shape shifters, from donkeytale to FLH to Gilroy to to to to.
but I do blieve, this is just my considered opinion, that the online so called leftischer political discussion opportunities have been PUSHED, relentlessly and ceaselessly, in that direction.
I mean if there was a time there was a chance for furthering progressivism/liberality with out neo liberalism, left ideas it was as a reaction to Bush et alia.
Did nto happen. The party as it always does moved right and forced the narrowing of the broader discussion as well.
They have been very effective.
This is why I am afraid of BO the pied piper. Will they follow him anywhere?
No better way to keep the dream alive than by staying asleep.
BReaking! Meta War!
1000 People on a Saturday neither making love in the afternoon, NOR watching basketball!
Sirota calls out Ms Laura DH ct and other malodorous types… Food Fight on DK LOL
Boober shows up, MSOC and Armando invoked , one big rubber room free for all! Oh, the ‘Umanity!
I don’t know who else cuaght NOW last night with the Pogrebin mere et fille in a fmaily split between H and O….
I was very interested to note that the daughter, who cleaves to Obama, claims to feel a patriotism she had never felt before. She is ini her early 40s…
hmmm. I am certain that is part of the political calculus on the part of the handlers and the party. (and would have been as well had Barack not picked up speed, late in November, they would have been busy planning for beating hearts in bosoms for the First Lady as pretzeldent)
Now what do they intend to do with it. B ecause the use of that swelling patriotism will nto be benign.
Not at all.
I will be wearing hip waders, goggles and carrying massive bottles of bug spray. For years.
37.BHHM, I saw the beginning of the “my feelings are hurt” sirota diary, and noticed he called out dana & laura. yesterday? someone posted an “Armando has lost it” diary. It’s all about invoking.
I just saw the Hillary “Shame on you, Obama” video up at CNN. The last time I heard “Shame on you!”, I think I got a spanking after that. (as a child, in other words)
39 Working on my Miss Devore Betrayed the Revolution diary now.
Shame on you, melvin. For wanting a spanking.
LOL Shame on Kerry for wanting McCain as his Veepessa a mere 4 years ago. All the little paid cubicle commenters swarmed thru Dkos exhorting for McCain… Truly gagworthy.
His “fill in” was John Glenn, who went with him to anything involving the mil. So he would not be boo’d
Pity they are all such shameless whatevers.
ok, I dipped in and found:
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There’s a crucial distinction: I have many times seen DH either accept a criticism and acknowledge error, and add clearly-labeled updates to his posts to correct himself. Similarly I’ve seen him continue to disagree with a criticism but have a friendly, calm exchange of thoughts on a topic. His responses to criticism reflect the tone and substance of the criticism. And that’s where Sirota errs, by responding to thoughtful criticism exactly as he responds to thoughtless criticism.
by MissLaura ”
yep, ya gotta admit that Dana is Mr. Rogers in that neighborhood.
43 Christ it’s almost worth going back just to open fire on that lying bitch one more time. She is completely full of shit and knows it.
I’ve seen him delete his own comments and then lie about it.
Watching cable, (which I had not done for over a year) the Repubs are out in force trying to protect McCain, from those nasty lefties who are spreading rumors etc. etc. to try to ‘destroy an American hero’ –
Anyway, what McCain supposedly did pales in comparison to what is being revealed eg, in the Chicago Tribune. I haven’t seen much elsewhere about these investigations.
It’s a long article and it is truly sickening – it leaves little doubt about the corruption, the theft starting even before the war began. Mostly, it reveals how hopeless it was to try to stop them ….
Inside the world of war profiteers
From prostitutes to to Super Bowl tickets a federal probe reveals how contractors inside Iraq cheated the US
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-t
They were partying in Kuwait in ancitipation of the war, preparing to make a financial killing as soon as the bombs started falling on the Iraqi people.
Meantime, here in the US even those who opposed this war, could never have imagined how corrupt they were, and while the flags were waving, what was actually going on.
How anyone can still claim there was any purpose to this war other than pure greed, is beyond me.
Sorry, that link doesn’t work … I’ll try to find it again ….
Lol, MissL has actually seen DHimwit be ‘reasonable’ somewhere? But no one need worry, she has so little credibility. If I wanted someone to vouch for me, I would beg her to ‘please don’t’ …. what a bunch of mediocrities they are, and that’s being kind ….
I’m with Melvin re Miss L a nasty, uninformed, arrogant with no good reason to be, supercilious know-it-all. And she has embarrassed herself repeatedly with her proclamations but doesn’t seem to be aware of it at all. It makes perfect sense that she would team up with the equally despicable DHinMi – birds of a feather ……
sabrina, I read that tribune article. it is a wonder the candidates don’t go after the “accountability” issue more. NCLB, although underfunded, makes teachers and students “accountable”, but we never see this criteria applied to Blackwater, Halliburton or FEMA. Can’t remember where I read it in the past couple days, but FEMA is suppose to give the proceeds of the unused (tho toxic!) emergency housing trailers back to the government, but instead, the agency bought themselves bigger and brighter SUVs, etc.
well she worked or was a volunteer (I have no idea which) on the hOdes campaign, he was the CM… she used to have pics of him at her former NH blog…
I assume she is in his pocket. Or, perhaps more precisely, he is in hers.
LOL.
Oh brother: DH’s Apologia Pro Bullshit Sua doesn’t address the question of where his emotional deformities originated.
Everythign is trending toward privatisation, thru SEVERAL adminsitrations… from Medicare (Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2) to NCLB, a biiiig step toward [further] abandoning public education.
LOL The candidates will nto be screwing with the Plan. Not really
I read recently Dyncorp got a new big contract, I forget for which country. They have been discredited for years, since the Yugloslavia, former, battlespace and post open warfare.
there are lots of online “make your own Jeopardy game” sites–one of my brothers and I have been contemplating doing one for our family [“Mother’s sayings for $50”] but there should be one for the bloggospear.
Dynocorp got a 4 billion contract for translators in iraq :
http://tinyurl.com/2amotg
a pittance compared to compensating those gay translators the military had to discharge.
Who is IOZ proves that reading Dkos is dangerous to your health.
Long ago in Dkos donkey years, I sued to wonder at all those drippy Why I Am a Democrat diaries. They never made sense. Full of espousements tht the party had no use for. And would quash, liketysplit.
My best answer used to be, I am not a Republcian. LOL
I have to say that so far, I’m getting a lot more laughs out of the Gilroy-Goes-To-Egypt Commentpalooza than I am out Sirota’s Sheep Dipped Hanky Party.
Who can resist gems such as these:
(VtheV)
or
or finally
(Your Momma)
Thanks for the ChiTrib link, sabrina.
BTW, I think both Serbia and Iran are saying “Shame on U.S.” today.
“Why I am a_______” was the precursor to “_____________for dummies” or maybe Reader’s Digest “I am Joe’s Foot”
the Shame on you video:
We’re here to fight for Harry Truman’s dream?
Bit risky to emphasize that Obama can fight Rove-style, while (in general) deriding his ability to go up against the Scary GOP Monsters in the general. Aren’t some listeners thinking, Good! Our Champion must be a Royal Bastard too!
(t to mention the obvious hypocrisy of the dogwhistle fight. Obviously.)
Like the red outfit, though. Who was the nervous background nodder?
IB, were you able to find the story from that link? Miss D said she read it and it is in todays online version. I am seriously handicapped with this laptop regarding posting links as I still haven’t had a chance to get a mouse and can’t figure out how to copy and paste …
But Miss D’s point about the candidates not making more of this massive corruption is so true. Then again, how can Hillary do so when she voted for it and still will not apologize or admit she should not have? What’s so frustrating in this country is how candidates have to be so ‘PC’ – when really, this should be their opportunity to get the attention of the people for issues like this. For some reason, other than Kucinich and Gravel (not even Paul mentioned the corruption airc) it seems taboo to bring up Republican corruption …
Bit risky to emphasize that Obama can fight Rove-style, while (in general) deriding his ability to go up against the Scary GOP Monsters in the general.
That campaign has been throwing desperate attacks like monkeys throwing poo at the exhibit glass.
‘Shame on you, Barack Obama’ – sad to see that video … it won’t help her at all. I can understand her feelings about anyone attacking her to an extent, on the healthcare issue. I don’t know the details of what happened when she tried in the nineties to get a universal healthcare program going and the Repubs shot it down, but she did try –
But talking to another Dem candidate as though he were a child is not good strategy. If I were advising her, I’d suggest she save that for Republicans … I’d love to see her, or any Dem go after Republicans like George Bush and Cheney, eg, that way. But I don’t think that’s ever going to happen …..
it seems taboo to bring up Republican corruption …
I find it very simple. The Republicans have subject, page, verse, line on where the Dems colluded.
Sabrina – Actually, I thanked you in advance of clicking, so had to scurry around a bit to find it, but here it is:
Inside the world of war profiteers.
56.I think the nervous nodder is Gov. Strickland of Ohio, who the Clintons bailed out some time back. thought I read abt. it in a nytimes article, but can’t find it now.
IB
I am 3/4 of the way thru the Gilroy thread. What a scream!
I take breaks from it.
I read that if Strickland cannot deliver Ohio for Hillary (and how could he) having won in a landslide.. then neither side wants to bother with him. It’s tough out there for a pol with no machine… LOL
Oh politics is so krule.
(I suspect the weather sucks everywhere today):
“I will not vote. (39+ / 0-)
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by Delaware Dem on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 02:58:15 PM PST”
(with respect to Hillary shaming the big O)
Don’t look now, MCat, but I think melvin’s link to the DH Blogger Ethics Treatise at 49 includes some de-li-cate alluuuuuuusions . . . hint hint . . . wink wink . . . .
But I refuse to read the comment thread! Enough is enough!
Slouching towards Petroeurostan By Pepe Escobar
Sunday follies:
IB, thanks for the link …..
Re Pff and Melvin’s comment above …. and marisacat’s regarding how the conversation on blogs has been pushed to the right. That is true, but from my observation, starting when I first discovered blogs and they were mixed between rightwingers and lefties, the lefties gave in often, and left the sites to the rightwingers …
Same thing seems to be happening on Pff but isn’t that the fault of lefties who don’t seem to have the same stamina (or maybe the righties are paid which would give them more incentive, don’t know) to stay around and expose the lies they tell …. I’m just not sure we can always blame someone else for the failures of the left. How many, eg, stood up for Cynthia McKinney on the various ‘liberal’ blogs when she was being attacks. Not many, but no one was stopping them airc …
Just my thoughts – since no one is being banned at Pff, as they are at the other ‘netroots’ blogs ….
Anyway, just waded through some of the comments on that thread at DK ….
Why does Sirota care about DK? Hasn’t he figured out that no matter how badly they act, or how unpopular they may be, and those two FPers are certainly unpopular and untalented, Kos will keep them there …. the blog is dying a slow death.
Jealousy is definitely behind their attitude towards him, imo. MissL who cannot post a word without sounding like Nurse Wretched, not to mention the ignorance she routinely displays when she does offer an opinion, (the minority blogging disastrous postings where she was thrashed beautifully for her condescending and totally uninformed defense of DK comes to mind) and DHinMi whose writing is yawn-inducing not to mention his general attitude, are the kind of people who will never amount to much although they desperately want to.
So, they are extremely jealous of anyone who does succeed, as DS has done. Why he wastes his time there is a mystery to me …. otoh, he may just have wanted to go after those two, which got him nearly 400 recs ….
Watching Miss L in action is like watching a SNL skit featuring a very proper schoolmarm finger-wagging at the popular ‘kidz’ because she just can’t understand why the world doesn’t see how ‘bad’ they are.
Her lecturing, boring style is devastating to her ambitions …. someone who cares about her ought to try talking to her about consistently making a fool of herself.
Wonder if Del Dem flounced his feathered fan and stomped his high heeled dance shoes when he said that.
Threw his spangled boa to the ground and exited. Stage right.
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TW looks like a very bitchy round table. Think I will drop in there.. if I am awake……..
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dear god, of the thousands of historians in this country, the only one they can find to comment on anything is goodwin?
well what I saw of ORGANISED waves at Dkos, the hard reality is that people just damn well wear out. (as they do in the RW, RL as well)
Plus what are th blogs for? Kos is a former R allied with NDN/Simon Rosenberg and in my best opinion the blahgs like Dkos Mydd, Open Left, Left Talk etc are product push. I long ago called MLW and BMT butterly nets.
What is the point of fighting it out. In a fake landscape.
Peeder is hardly some lefty, and if you ask me (nor does anyone have to) it has long STANK to high heaven the Israel Firsters at Dkos love to direct traffic his way. With links. He braked for “white nigger” and gay sex pics but kept up naked or up ended women being peed on.
KEEP IT ALL UP. FFS. Or take it all down.
More frat boys metaphorically sucking off eahc other to be brutal.
Where there is odor there is usually burning rot.
Many people have left the blogs. And rightfully so.
Generally speaking they are bullshit. Mindless lecturing, propaganda, waves of party fleas and operatives.
One should stay?
For what?
To attend as they do Rahm’s business? to propp up some fake and mind numbing lefty responsibilyt.
By now the only responsiblity is remain human and not get mind fucked.
To be blunt.
MissL strikes me as the classic lousy third tier academic.
World is loaded iwth them.
It’s hard out there for a NV caucus process, LOL:
the only one they can find to comment on anything is goodwin?
I suspect she has a book coming out soon that her publisher’s PR firm is pushing. It’s been a couple of years since the last one.
off topic–fuck the rain in the Bay Area!
they just said that 4700 have lost power, in the Richmond district, west of me…
time to ban him from Little Orange Footballs:
Kucinich to Investigate 9/11 Insider Trading
Essence dot com: Cynthia McKinney: The New Face of the Green Party
classy
H&C: Luntz Asks His Focus Group If They Want To See Clinton & Obama “Make Love To Each Other”
Look at the NYT website right now. Why the big huge “spread” on how awful and autocratic Putin is?
I mean, why run this NOW?
via theopinionmill dot wordpress dot com:
What happened to the widows
found guilty as charged!. the epitaph for the BBB written. all ducks floating in the watery row blown clean to pieces by dead-eyed annie oakley.
close the grave over them. they’re toast in any legitimate way.
champion balloon fencer indeed!!
well like a lot of other people, I remember all of those women, and their faces.
Sorry they did nto get it that the husbands were fallen State heros.
And no longer theirs.
Madman @ 84: Thanks for that link.
83: Why? Because Russia is standing up to the West’s violations of international law on Kosovo. The NYT should also consider doing a piece entitled “When Killing and Ethnically Cleansing Gypsies and Jews is OK.” After all, that’s what our buddies, the KLA, did, while NATO turned a blind eye.
the Shame on you video:
I hide in the closet when mom and dad fight. (lol)
A propos to MiTM #80: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0802/S00229.htm
raincat … yvw.
#90 – SA
who knows? I just think discussions should be explored.
we seem to be dodging the worst of the rain and wind out here, thankfully. they just barely got done cleaning up after that big january storm.
Same thing seems to be happening on Pff but isn’t that the fault of lefties who don’t seem to have the same stamina (or maybe the righties are paid which would give them more incentive, don’t know) to stay around and expose the lies they tell ….
It’s not a matter of “stamina”. pff is an inconsequential blog with a bunch of raving loons – left and right (with maybe one or two exceptions on the “left” side). Surely you don’t take it seriously…?
Miss Laura shows her colours and kos steps in. What a sideshow that place is.
Someone’s ego took a little hit:
those people give me a nosebleed.
I think I’m about to be banned.
97–I think they should have a titty fight. The two disputants’ arms are tied behind their backs and their shirts removed. The winner must slap the loser to death using only her two breasts as a weapon.
If Sirota feels insufficiently endowed, he may nominate a second to fight in his place.
MCat, no. 7,
Apparently, “Arthur Gilroy” was already an ex-Mayor by 1895. A Google search turned up this tidbit from the NY Times:
Even then the family was noted for foreign sojourns. Must have been his great-great granddad, at the least. No CIA back then, maybe the Pinkertons footed the bill.
Not exactly a shock… (MTP doesn’t come on out here for an hour and forty mins):
US consumer advocate Ralph Nader – a candidate in the 2000 and 2004 White House races – announces he will run for the presidency again.
For more details: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
melvin:
Works for me! LOL
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JJB
thanks for that… ugh I just finished the thread to his Egyptian/State Dept trip diary over at Pff.
Timmeh is just going back to the spoiler thing over and over again. Ralph is doing pretty good.
Bush to School Children: You’re All in Grave Danger
103 — lmao
Jesus Switch
He’ll fuck you up!
I’m feeling particularly blasphemous today.
LOL
President and Mrs. Bush to Welcome His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI to the White House
108.
That discussion about reason ought to be short and sweet.
I thought it was in keeping with my morning blasphemy theme.
you’ve got to be fucking kidding me.
Well. I did not know abou this case…but I had figured out in the 90s that Hillary’s vaunted history ‘working for the chilluns’ was a bit of a put up job. Brushed off and bronzed in the first run to give her a good “story”. Wonder if the Wright-Edelmans really face what they did in the 92 campaign. She of Childrens’ Def Fund and he appointed to HHS and resigned over welfare “reform”.
found the Newsday article thru Politico.
Catnip #97 – you said it very well … but they’ll have to ban a lot of people from that thread – probably all 400 or so who rec’d it, as they have threatened to do in the past. Though I doubt they can afford to ban people the way they used to anymore.
Re taking Pff seriously – or any other blog for that matter … not the way I used to, when there was some hope that they could have had some effect on what was happening mainly by spreading information which the US media was covering up ….
Blogs are like newspapers, some with a larger readership than others. I never thought of them as ‘movements’ …. and in the beginning because they brought big groups of people together to go after politicians on their votes, eg, or to help those who were putting themselves on the line and I think they did help, which may be why a decision was made to block them with sites like DK.
Even a small site like Pff has the potential to help spread correct information rather than the propaganda this country is flooded with. Or it can be left to the propagandists …. so if everyone does what they can, no matter how small the effort may be, it can accumulate and eventually have some effect.
We are pretty starved in this country for information so I take it from wherever I can find it and then pass it along to others … but the forces working to suppress information were and are pretty powerful, and overall not much has been accomplished regarding the most important issues, such as the war in Iraq.
Interesting to read that case – #112 Marisacat – I hadn’t heard of it either …. not sure if Hillary could have refused to take it. The article says she did not want to …..
The bottom line is that if any of them cared about children, they would not be supporting unnecessary wars. I wonder if any of them have had the courage to look at the photos from this war, of the dead and wounded children. Or if they care ….
oh I don’t think any of them support children. None of them.
LOL The so called (and always fictitious) red blue divide has been unified: Abortion god guns and gays. Obama merely brings up the rear of the parade with his Elmer Gantry bullshite (it really is over the top).
The Dems are nearly as bad on the whole of it. A soft winger supporting policy on all counts, at the end of the day.
pariah v. messiah:
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/52534.html
I wonder how long this Kos user is going to last.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/24/174127/553/418/463328
Was cut from Hillary’s campain due to budget difficulties and is currently trying to get a job with McCain.
http://www.pbase.com/srogouski/image/93375283
nu thred………………
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Miss D. #116 – I don’t know who is advising her, but she sounds like DHinMi when he tries his pathetic snide tactic …. and look at the comments sectrion. People are just so turned off by that kind of mockery, unless they are Musings et al from DK, who believe in ‘mocking and shaming’. Come to think of it, is Hillary getting advice from the DK troll patrol? I think these last two videos will finish whatever chances she had left ….
Marisacat, #115 – no, I don’t think they care much about children – M.Albright basically said it – that the deaths of so many Iraqi children was ‘worth it’!
117: I believe Eiron is an Israeli. That’s certainly an Israeli name. Not that that will stop them from banning him if he continues not to toe the party line.