Obama-kins and McCain-a-crats 28 February 2008
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Israel/AIPAC, U.S. Senate, WAR!.trackback
LOL… that is what Rove is calling ‘em.
We have heard recently about the Obama-kins, the Republicans for Obama. And I would like to point out the McCain-a-crats, the Democrats who are for McCain, outnumber the Republicans for Obama by almost a two to one margin. [well, that is Rove, the oddest looking cheerleader ever born... --- Mcat]
I am sticking with NoneOfTheAbove.
Scahill was on Democracy NOW! on endless war under either Obama or HIllary…
JEREMY SCAHILL: Well, I started looking at Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton’s Iraq plans, and one of the things that I discovered is that both of them intend to keep the Green Zone intact. Both of them intend to keep the current US embassy project, which is slated to be the largest embassy in the history of the world. I mean, I think it’s 500 CIA operatives alone, a thousand personnel. And they’re also going to keep open the Baghdad airport indefinitely. And what that means is that even though the rhetoric of withdrawal is everywhere in the Democratic campaign, we’re talking about a pretty substantial level of US forces and personnel remaining in Iraq indefinitely.
In the case of Barack Obama, I wanted to focus in on what his position is on private military contractors, particularly armed ones like those that work for Blackwater. And the reason I focus on Obama instead of Hillary on this is because Barack Obama has actually been at the forefront of addressing the mercenary issue in the Congress. In February of 2007—this was way before the Nisour Square massacre, where Blackwater forces killed seventeen Iraqis and wounded twenty others—in February of 2007, Barack Obama sponsored legislation in the Senate that sought to expand US law so that—
JUAN GONZALEZ: This is just after he got into the Senate, right?
JEREMY SCAHILL: This was in 2007. This was a year ago. And so, this was a major piece of legislation by Obama, and it was done in concert with Representative David Price from North Carolina in the House, a Democrat. And Obama’s legislation basically said we realize that there are loopholes in the law that allow Blackwater and other contractors to essentially get away with murder, and so what we need to do is make it so that US law applies to not only Defense Department contractors, but State Department contractors like Blackwater. If they murder someone in Iraq, we can prosecute them back in the United States.
Now, that legislation hasn’t passed at this point, and it may never pass. I mean, the fact is that the Bush administration actually issued a statement opposing that legislation, and I want to read to you what Bush said. He said that law would have, quote, “intolerable consequences for crucial and necessary national security activities and operations.”
And so, I started to look at this reality. Obama is saying he wants to keep the embassy. Obama is saying he wants to keep the Green Zone. Obama is saying he wants to keep the Baghdad airport. Who’s guarding US diplomats right now at this largest embassy in the history of the world? Well, it’s Blackwater, Triple Canopy and DynCorp; it’s these private security companies.
And so, I started talking to some of the Obama campaign people. And it really took days for them to actually get back to me and provide someone to talk to me on the record. I started doing interviews with some of his people, and they said, “We can’t answer these questions.” And so, finally I talked to a senior foreign policy person, who said, yes, the reality is that we can’t rule out, we won’t rule out, using private security forces.
And I said, well, Senator Obama has identified them as unaccountable, and the reality is, his law may not pass before he takes office, if he wins, and so Obama could potentially be using forces that he himself has identified as both unaccountable and above the law. Long pause. Right.
And so, the situation right now is that Obama seems to have painted himself into a corner on this issue, because the reality is, Obama’s people are saying, well, we’re going to increase funding to the State Department’s Diplomatic Security division. They say, ideally, the people we want to be guarding US diplomats in Iraq will be fully burdened US government employees who are accountable to US law.
But the irony right now is that the war machine is so radically privatized that there are about 1,100 mercenaries doing diplomatic security in Iraq right now. There are only 1,400 diplomatic security agents in the entire world, and only thirty-six of them are in Iraq.
And why are they so tender on the subject?, slow or unable to answer?
JUAN GONZALEZ: Well, let me ask you, in terms of this whole issue of mercenaries in general, I mean, are we facing the possibility that a Democratic president would in essence reduce the troops but increase the mercenaries?
JEREMY SCAHILL: Well, Juan, this is a great question, and it was one of the reasons why I started looking at this. I want to read you a quote here. Joseph Schmitz, who’s one of the leading executives in the Blackwater empire, recently said this:
“There is a scenario where we could as a government, the United States, could pull back the military footprint, and there would then be more of a need for private contractors to go in.”
So apparently these contractors see a silver lining in that scenario. You know, the reality is, right now, that these forces are one of the most significant threats to Iraqis in the country. I mean, we’ve seen scores of incidents where they’ve shot at them, etc.
But as you know, Juan, this is a bipartisan industry. I mean, Bill Clinton really gave rise to this phenomenon of the military contractors. We know that Dick Cheney was running Halliburton in the ’90s. Who was giving Dick Cheney all of those contracts? Well, it was Bill Clinton. And the Democrats have long been good for the war contracting industry. There’s a reason why Hillary Clinton is the number one recipient of campaign contributions from the defense industry. Number two is John McCain. Obama is number four. Chris Dodd is ahead of him. It’s very interesting. It’s a bipartisan phenomenon.
As the race narrows, the funnel of MIC cash to Hillary and Dodd will shift to Obama…
Just have to chuckle. Doesn’t that just REEK of ”new politics”, so drastically different from [gasp! horror! panic! eye roll!] ”old politics”? The hard core, real politik truth of it all?
A last dribble on, as Owen Paine at SMBIVA calls her, the glamghoul:
JUAN GONZALEZ: I wanted to ask you specifically about this whole question of the increase in troops, because when I asked Samantha Power, as his foreign policy adviser, about this issue, she talked about the US military being stretched and the need for even in peacekeeping to have what she called “boots on the ground” and that weren’t sufficient. But the reality is obviously that there are many American troops in other parts of the world, like South Korea, like Japan, like, to some degree, Europe, that are not being—not—doing nothing else except occupying those countries, and they could be redeployed if the Army needed more troops.
JEREMY SCAHILL: Right. I mean, what that indicates, I think, is that Obama is going to have an interventionist, expansionist foreign policy. I mean, that certainly was the policy of the Clinton administration. I mean, in fairness, though, Barack Obama, more than Hillary Clinton and certainly more than John McCain, who’s talking about having troops in Iraq for a hundred years, Obama is talking about trying to increase the UN presence in Iraq. He’s trying to bring in regional countries. I mean, he has a pretty serious diplomatic plan for Iraq. The problem is that it doesn’t cancel out his military plan.
On the case of the increase in troops, what Obama’s people told me is that we need these 90,000 troops desperately, because our troops need a rest. Some of them are serving three, four tours over in Iraq, and so we need to get them in there. But the reality is, you don’t get 90,000 troops and then be able to deploy them overnight. So, clearly, they’re thinking about this for years and years to come. I think the reality is that neither Barack Obama nor Hillary Clinton are actually going to be in the business of permanently ending the US occupation of Iraq. That’s a deadly serious issue, and it needs to be front and center on this campaign.
GOOD LUCK! Countries want out of Afghanistan. Meanwhile we are bitching that countries serving in Afghanistan with different rules of engagement [no combat] are not really doing their part. This cute idea that countries will “help” us with Iraq (I laughed out loud at Samantha, on last week with Charlie Rose, chiding the Europeans for “not caring about the fate of the Iraqis”… Christ on a bayonet!, does the bitch for war HEAR herself?) is just campaign blither/come hither. They, all those countries we think should join us, did not want to assist a possible Kerry as president with the same baseless (in reality) come hither, shoveled out to the American people.
Poor America, always the victim: No one wants to help us, in our greatness, our goodness, our bounty that we offer freely to the world.
Is that the ultimate whine or what! Because you know it’s coming down the pike, in a couple of years…. No matter which politics is operational, old, new or just plain old / new bullshite.
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FINALLY, someone is asking about the contractors – unlike the useless debate hosts who just give Obama and Clinton a free pass on this issue.
Poor America, always the victim: No one wants to help us, in our greatness, our goodness, our bounty that we offer freely to the world.
Something that I wrote about almost every day. Meanwhile…
*write, that is.
IOZ is on the prison population numbers as well (JJB had a post in the lst thread)
and a quick slither on the blissfully dead and soon gone Buckley.
A couple of commenters link to other write ups of ol’ dead Bill.
Damn life sucks for some people.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080228/wl_uk_afp/britainroyals
LONDON (AFP) – Prince Harry, who has been fighting the Taliban on the front line in Afghanistan, admitted in an interview released Thursday that he sometimes wishes he was not a privileged, well-known royal.
On the other hand, he’s probably got a big bullseye on his forehead so I guess he might be a little nervous.
Maybe Chelsea can join him?
whenever anyone brings up the sstupid Yellow Elephants stuff, I always mention Chelsea.
Please, take her. I think Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg has some eligible aged children as well.
AFAIC take them all.
I thought the Obama-”kin” was Cheney.
Roy Zimmerman’s 50 state strategy.
whenever anyone brings up the sstupid Yellow Elephants stuff, I always mention Chelsea.
I’m half tempted to troll a few dem blogs and say Nya Nya Nya Nya Nya if we can judge Ron Paul by David Duke why can’t we judge Obama by Farrakhan.
Unfortunately I can also see the differences between black nationalism (which is a distorted view of a genuine problem) and white nationalism (which is pure evil).
But the Yellow Elephant stuff and Chelsea is dead on, especially since Obama keeps talking about Afghanistan (just like Kerry in 2004 when is he going to start talking about body armor?).
If the Prince can serve, why not the Clinton Royal Child?
Not sure how I missed this one last fall. I think they cut out the part where women were throwing their panties at him.
Why are people walking on eggshells like this? It’s downright undemocratic and ought to be embarrassing for anyone who considers themself to be a free-thinking political critic.
The attacks by Obama supporters who have their pitchforks out for anyone who criticizes His Obamaness are stifling open debate and subverting true democracy. The so-called “marketplace of ideas” has become an exclusive, segregated boutique with a members-only policy that reeks of the highest form of elitism and exclusivity.
I posted that comment as a diary at pff. I’m sick and tired of seeing that attitude. And I’m sick and tired of having to concern myself with offending Obama’s supporters. If you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. It smacks of being in an abusive relationship.
122. JJB – 28 February 2008
MITM, no. 120,
It will no doubt be conveniently forgotten that Buckley wanted everyone with AIDS to be given a tatoo identifying them as having the disease. Some “social moderate.”
The only coverage I saw, read or heard that mentioned it was Olbermann.
Billboard Liberation Front vs. ATT + NSA
Dennis Perrin on the thankfully dead motherfucker:
I meant what I wrote, I am for sending all privileged children of empire to the wars. ESPECIALLY of their parents engage in publicly furthering war.
Period.
Also, Obama, like all Democrats, HAS BEEN talking about armor. As that is the sanctioned discussion about Iraq.
Armor=mismanagement.
Ugh … I feel guilty for all of the focus on the odious scumbag who died.
So I want to say that I’ve enjoyed Buddy Miles work for years, as a young high school drummer who seldom practiced, he was one of the guys who it was fun to try to keep up with on my set while the album played.
Goodbye Buddy.
Jimi Hendrix & Band Of Gypsys : Machine Gun : Fillmore East 1970
Book TV this coming Sunday:
Al Giordano on the Obama rally in Austin last night:
He’s a hack and a fraud and another warmonger, but he does seem to have a staff that’s pretty good at setting up
rock concertscampaign events.Hmm, I tried to post something earlier today but it didn’t go through. Weird computer issues today. And it’s not even Mercury retrograde!
Yes, hello, Marisacat! I’m using my Real Name ™ for postings now. They will be infrequent, alas.
Just wanted to say that I wish Obama played the harpsichord – I would like him better. Maybe he could take up the accordion?
I read yesterday that provincial elections take place in Iraq in OCTOBER. And, I think in April, Petraeus is to testify again. Low flying fog of war will commence again. The WH will be assisting McCain, Bush being as much a maverick as the AZ asshole.
Should be entertaining. obama needs to get it off Iraq and to where McCain is not, or at least less, comfortable.
POPCORN! MARSHMALLOWS! Campfire stories… LOL
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Thanks for the Shakespeare’s Sister link… caveat the caveat.
Good luck there too… LOL
Found this on some Indymedia site.
Willam F. Buckley dead.
Cryptofascist ex-nihilo.
Then not so crypto, just fascist.
Now just crypt.
LOL HCfM.
LA Times piece on that “what white people like” blog:
Hey, hey, EOJ*, how many kids did you kill today?
warning, sad, heartbreaking photo.
hmmmmmm
25
not sure as I read it several hours ago, but think Scahill mentions Infogard (and the shott to kill authority) as part of hte privatisation, deputising that is going on.
26 …
thanks … I skimmed thru that quickly and missed it. Not surprised by any of it, or by the eagerness of business people to get on board w/ a secret brownshirt army.
this visit isn’t hard to explain. those in the know go to san marcos after burning a couple of fatties to sample the texmex at herbert’s and go tubing on the river.
the Matthew Rotschilde piece on Infragard is absolutely chilling.
nicely laced iwth sharp ankle biting, a piece on the short and not-at-all-democratic history of superdelegates from Counterpunch
holy shit, that article is scary. thanks for the link, madman.
And, in other news, the sky is blue.
Matt Rothschild on DN:
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/11/report_fbi_deputizes_23_000_business
thanks for that Arcturus…
… and at least with MR, he seems more outspoken, less beholden to the party than most…
hmm I guess I have been missing fresh chum in the waters….
a snip from Schechter’s News Disssector:
Can’t we fire Israel as BFF?
Fuck, some people are dense.
Just had to get that out (and it’s not about anyone/anything in this thread.)
Carry on.
I thought Raimondo was a new Obama supporter. (?) It sure doesn’t look like it.
A new winter soldier moment?
link
Chemical Ali execution approved. (with video soon to follow on YouTube, no doubt.)
You know things are bad when: UN Experts Criticize New Orleans Housing
LOL Never underestimate the power of a lame duck, but sitting, president. Nor the implied power of a 71 year old whack job running for the job:
I thought Raimondo was a new Obama supporter. (?) It sure doesn’t look like it.
That’s Joshua Frank not Raimondo. Raimondo’s a luke warm Obama supporter but at the moment he seems to leaning away from him.
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12437
Oil broke #103 overnight.
So glad I don’t drive … gas prices are going to be ugly in a month or two.
Have a good day everybody.
Market Trustee is definitely one of the more intelligent people at PFF.
http://politicalfleshfeast.com/showComment.do;jsessionid=E37BEAF366FCD104F99CA2F5F6FCEE37?commentId=70749
Re the “Things White People Like” – I’m surprised it took someone this long to point out all these things and to “ethnographize” the progressive, college-educated, white-collar American… who DO have an annoying tendency to ethnographize everyone else (and I’m noticing it happen more now during the Obama-Clinton race, where blue-collar Dems are constantly being described as some sort of exotic minority with quaint customs).
That’s Joshua Frank not Raimondo.
Thanks. Brain fart.
Thanks. Brain fart.
That’s Mr. Brain Fart to you
lol…I didn’t mean it that way! I meant to say I had a brain fart.
All you do to win Raimondo’s heart is piss off the lobby at one time or another. But say nice things about Israel and he’s like a high school nerd looking at the girl he’s crushing on go off with the quarterback. Thus Justin’s off again on again thing with Obama.
Since Bush sent the Cole off the coast of Lebanon to intimidate Hezbollah and cover Israel’s northern flank, can we now label the coming invasion of Gaza the American/Israeli invasion?
argh.
I guess we are going to have 8 months of discussing “Hussein” wihtout being able to use the nomines full name. Without apologising, that is.
Check the commenter (Stubine) that tells Naomi Klein (merely quoted in The Nation piece) to shut up.
LOL Left authoritarianism is hardly different from the right side of the lumpy bed.
Markos puts on his own tinfoil crown today:
p.s. I think it’s okay (if stupid) for companies to bar access to certain websites. But when done so, it should be uniformly applied. So if the decision is made to bar access to blogs because they are productivity zappers, that’s cool, but then block ALL blogs, not just the ones which are politically distasteful to whatever shlub is blacklisting sites.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/29/134841/511/446/466375
But I doubt that he’ll be chastised by the sheep and told “It’s their company and they can do what they want. DK is just a guest who’s not been invited. Fidelity has to moderate the community. If DK was banned, it was probably for something Kos said. Read the FAQ and STFU. Oh, and here’s photo of a cat doing something stupid.”
The DJIA is down over 320 points as of 3:41 PM EST.
JJB thanks I over slept (by a lot) and trying to catch up.
I guess the street is saying, yet again, that rate cuts and Bernanke does not do it.
What a shock!!
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so Fidelity selected Dkos to block? I know some places block all blogs (tho things being what they are, inevitably some get thru)…. and while I prefer people having free access and just doing things in moderation, I can see why places block blogs.
Plus I think a lot of people don’t know the technology that allows monitoring of work place key strokes and whatever is up on the screen….
A must see: Food Fight
Starring:
pretzel & bratwurst
matzoh
croissant
fish ‘n chips
burger ‘n fries
sushi
beef stroganoff
kebabs
bagel w/cream cheese & lox
kimchee
dumpling & egg roll
Cuban sandwich
spring roll
falafel
chicken nuggets
fried chicken sandwich
LOL IOZ finally (there is so much sludge as political analysis) says something worthwhile about the over discussed Red Phone Hillary ad.
And he swipes Wesley Clark on the way, too…….
Paging lucid. Not sure if you’ve seen this yet: Canadian researchers find gene that may block HIV
here’s photo of a cat doing something stupid
Leave the pooties alone!!!
Worth dropping in at PffterPoofters to catch the marketTrustee commentary…
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What a tool kos is. The company said, “Areas of concern would include profanity,”. Well, hello?? But kos claims is some sort of partisan witchhunt, even generalizing by saying that “all” conservative blogs are accessible. How does he know that? There are millions of them. But who needs facts when you have outrage?
liberalcatnip, no. 61,
I’m sure other areas of concern include the obsessive manner in which their employees will spend hours and hours at Orange Kosolini hurling insults and zero ratings at each other. In the cases of Armando and Melrath (and those two really ought to open a law practice together!), a business could be prosecuted for billing clients for time allegedly spent working for them but in reality spent clogging up the blogosphere with idiotic posts.
55. no one could have predicted meatballs would be flown into stacked burgers.
A couple of weeks ago when Tom Lantos died, I mentioned that there were certain aspects of the story of his life in Hitler’s Europe that didn’t sound likely to me, and that if you’re so inclined, it’s very easy to lie about that and get away with it largely because people are very reticent to say anything that might be construed as negative about those who were presecuted during those years and survived. Jerzy Kosinski told a number of whoppers about his life during the Nazi occupation of Poland, and published a book he not so subtly claimed was a “memoir” that turned out to be a fantasy, and IMHO a rather sick one at that considering the relative comfort in which he lived during that awful time (the sainted Elie Weisel also has some very dubious passages in his writings on those years). Now we have the following case that I just came across:
So we’re to believe that no one thought it unlikely that a small child wandered all over occupied Europe (which was really a huge prison camp in those awful times, with varying degrees of security and oppression exerted over residents of different areas) and survived in the forests (what did she do during winter?) thanks to a herd of wolves while war raged back and forth, and people without ID papers were sent off to certain death.
I really don’t know what to say about that, except that this woman needs to be on psychotropic drugs, and that she, the ghostwriter, and the publisher should be denied access to any money derived from the sale of this obnoxious, obscene piece of kitsch.
Wasn’t Jerzy Kosinzki esposed some years ago?
I cannot quite remember it all, and don’t want to google.
Lots of lies about who did what during WW2… lies of all kinds.
Is anybody man or woman enough to go into that Kos Konspiracy
and call him on his own censorship and cries of “my site, my rules”?
MCat,
Kosinski was exposed as both a liar, and as having not written his own books. He also stole the plot of “Being There” from a book that was very popular in Poland in the 1930s. He was probably some kind of spook, and his publishers connived in providing cover for him. They had a lot of help from some very powerful people at the NY Times, including Abe Rosenthal (who apparently used to go around to S&M clubs with Kosinski), and Arthur and Barbara Gelb, who were in charge of the Arts and Leisure section and the Sunday magazine. The book said to be about his life during the Holocaust is all made up. His parents managed to get forged ID papers, (the name Kosinski is an alias, a common non-Jewish Polish name), and they got out of Lodz and lived a fairly comfortable life all things considered in a town in the hinterlands, where they were protected by some non-Jewish Poles who took extraordinary risks to shield them (people who knew they were Jews, incidentally). It was the anger of a number of these people that eventually led to the truth, BTW. It took a long time for their complaints against Kosinski to be heard in those pre-Internet days, but they did eventually surface.
SORRY! Trying to do several things at once… I see you DID mention JerZy K and The Painted Bird.
Well it was a lovely fiction… have to leave it at that.
So many little Freys around…
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W/r/t Kosinski, this article may be of interest.
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LOL Brooks is on Lehrer talking about the same piece from Buckley in The New Yorker, the one I wrote a tart note to the mag about it. Apparently it was ’82.
Did not know that stuff about Kosinski. The Painted Bird was one of those novels I tried, but couldn’t get through. And hell, I read tons of Cynthia Ozick, who, long ago was described by Spy magazine as “author of novels nobody ever reads”
WH plagiarist Tim Goeglein, who had to proclaim his guilt after being busted.
Quite the headline: Reformer: Trial Will Reveal ‘Cesspool’ of Obama’s Allies
“brilliant” or “hypocritical”: You decide.
pff bullshitter, who asks for documentation from Obama supporters, is too busy to back up her baseless claims:
I claimed you support Hillary Clinton? (5.00 / 1)
can’t seem to recall that. how nefarious of me!
by Miss Devore @ Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 13:03:21 PM PST
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you’re not seriously denying that now, are you? (0.00 / 0)
What a joke.
Btw, I thought you were done with me. Like I said, Miss D. You’re damn predictable.
by catnip @ Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 13:29:50 PM PST
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just please cite where I claimed you (0.00 / 0)
supported Hillary Clinton. And if I am wrong, I will write one of those huge diary apologies.
by Miss Devore @ Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 13:32:15 PM PST
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I have better things to do (0.00 / 0)
Go reread your posts attacking me at mcat’s since you seem to have forgotten.
by catnip @ Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 13:40:15 PM PST
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I realize you have better things to do. (0.00 / 0)
There are thousands of baseless accusations to make.
Nefarious!
by Miss Devore @ Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 13:55:01 PM PST
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Nefariuous? (0.00 / 0)
Lugubrious!
by DavidByron @ Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 14:19:24 PM PST
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umm…no (0.00 / 0)
I’m actually researching 2 stories: one about Afghan prisoners being handed over for possible torture again and the other about a major political bribery scandal here in Canada while taking time out from both of them to actually have some fun as well.
And yes, I consider those to be “better things to do” than to sit here and watch you insult me – again.
In short: go Cheney yourself.
by catnip @ Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 15:19:28 PM PST
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hey you admitted your mistake (5.00 / 1)
to coyote. am I chopped liver?
by Miss Devore @ Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 15:52:38 PM PST
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Trolling for pity, Miss D?
Ironic that I was just reading this story while waiting for blogger to load.
But that’s right. I’m just a “pff bullshitter”.
You’re pathetic.
75. nah, cuz I know you are too busy caring about humanity.
when asked to name a flaw/document her accusation, catnip gives the john edwards response: I have too much empathy for people!
nefarious!
where blue-collar Dems are constantly being described as some sort of exotic minority with quaint customs
They’re not?!?! (ducks).
I know some places block all blogs
My company does … EXCEPT for blogs that are part of/hosted by a media outlet, which of course means many of the bigger wingers are accessable (Malkin etc).
Markos should be concerned about a corp blocking traffic to cubicleworld.
heck, imagine if that caught on. half the fekking do-nothing donk hack lawyers on the planet log into kos from work and i bet 90% of his non ward-heeler users (((all 2000 of them!))) do so as well. just look at all those midday time stamps. his revenue would sink like a stone.
ugh … accessible
Many Troops Would Stay
In Iraq if a Democrat Wins
Quaker teacher fired for changing loyalty oath
Jay Rockefeller endorses Obama:
LOL the Republicans will be leaving several flaming bleeding versions of Somalia ’92 (a “feeding mission’) for the little Dems.
Except for the suffering on the ground, eh.
Meanwile the Republicans ride off into the nearby sunset…immune from prosecution, their saddle bags loaded and big plans for ’10.
Who got the short end of the deal?
Mukasey refuses probe of Bush aides
Good boy. Have a cookie while George pats your head.
jay r-fella endorsement. yawn. it just seems like someone who would have been gung-ho for hillary, but got nervous when it looked like she was a loser.
and, yes, I say that as an Obama supporter, who doesn’t think he is jesus or good looking in our conventional ways.
She’s pretty good so far.
Obama Goes to Bollywood
where blue-collar Dems are constantly being described as some sort of exotic minority with quaint customs
The first time my liberal WASP ex girlfriend visited my parents’ house and saw Wonder Bread in the kitchen and a TV running in every room she pulled out a notebook and started writing a grant proposal. The idea that people ate out of little plastic trays you stuck in the microwave filled her with horror and curiosity. A walk through the neighborhood replete with Virgin Mary statues, American and MIA flags, and houses too close together left her wondering if she was going to make it out alive. The world of Homo White Ethnicus New Jerseyicus is a curious world indeed.
sometimes, when I watch the adoration and leap of faith that people have in Obama’s candidacy, I feel like I’m watching a younger version of the old and sick people at a faith healer’s revival meeting.
I wish I was just being cynical.
<a href=”http://www.chris-floyd.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1444&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=135Chris Floyd on Obama:
Chris Floyd link in spam.
Of course the WASP species is even more curious. Cutesy names for mixed drinks, strangely embalmed yet still curiously alive old ladies you have to be nice to, odd, inarticulate, emotionally stunted cousins who have graduated from Ivy League colleges but can’t quite speak the English language (see also GW Bush), the inability to determine who’s drunk and who’s just flat out weird, it makes one long for Wonder Bread and MIA flags.
Buckley vs. Chomsky on Youtube.
The oddest thing was that Chomsky seemed to understand what Buckley was saying and I didn’t.
It’s like listening to a foreign language.
But they’re both opposites.
The Chomsky strophe always amounts to an initial rather long winded statement from the American point of view followed by a brief one sentance deflation.
The Buckley strophe involves a simple concept expanded into as many words as possible.
Chomsky managed to rattle Buckley but at least Buckley tried to debate him. O’Reilly would have probably cut his mike then threatened to beat him up.
but at least Buckley tried to debate him.
Buckley’s whole scam was to elevate lunatic fringe ideas into an “intellectual” realm. Chomsky and Gailbraith and the rest HELPED him sell it. Maybe they didn’t mean to, but that’s what they did.
Creationists are pulling the same scam when they try to engage “debates” with evolutionary theorists.
Miss Devore, no. 71,
One of the people who wrote Kosinski’s “novels” was Paul Auster. He was a student at either Yale or Harvard, and he and his then-girlfriend wrote substantial portions of Cockpit (IIRC), with Kosinski dropping by to give them general plot points and the like (the books were collaborations between small teams of writers who never met, aside from the occasional pairs like Auster and his girlfriend). He tried to seduce the young woman on several occasions when he met with her one on one, if you can call telling someone “have sex with me right now and I can advance you’re career” seduction. I once knew a late-30-something woman who had a much younger female friend who was Kosinski’s mistress for a year or two. She got to tag along on a dinner date that included Kosinski, his wife, and the young woman, in addition to my friend. Mistress and wife got along splendidly, the wife apparently took her under her wing, bought her clothes, told her how to keep Jerzy happy. This was after Kosinski’s outing as a fraud, probably 1985. All in all, a very weird thing. Even today, anyone speaking the truth about him is liable to be viciously attacked.
two of Hair Club’s out of Moderation….
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one from Madman, one from catnip, out of Spam.
Sorry!!
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Buckley’s whole scam was to elevate lunatic fringe ideas into an “intellectual” realm. Chomsky and Gailbraith and the rest HELPED him sell it. Maybe they didn’t mean to, but that’s what they did.
I’m sure Chomsky sees/saw Buckely as simply a mouthpiece for American imperialism, the mainstream, not the fringe.
MITM,
Allen Ginsberg was another frequent guest on Buckley’s program who helped him sell his line of crap. Oddly, one of the only people to call him on his pompous self-promoting was Jack Kerouac, who agreed with him politically. When JK appeared on “Firing Line” in late 1968, at the end of the show, Buckley tried one of his neologisms in asking a question about the hippies’ “Adamite” approach to life (I guess the word “prelapsarian” wasn’t good enough for him). Kerouac, who’d been acting like a drunken lunatic for much of the program, suddenly looked cold sober as he fixed Buckley with a stare that could have burned through a steel vault and said “Adamite?????” with such incredulous, “are you kidding me??!!!” contempt the audience ended up laughing at Buckley. It’s featured in a documentary film about Kerouac entitled (I think) “What Really Happened to Kerouac.”
98. sounds like the academia I know and…..am barely tolerating at this point.
On the other hand, Kosinski was a great Zinoviev in “Reds”
Why You’ve Already Heard Scifi’s Ubiquitous Wilhelm Scream
Just because everyone needs a break from politics.
a NOT fucked up link to the Chris Floyd.
WHY are these people kowtowed to?
Unless, of course, they HAVE no religious faith, then they are monsters.
IOZ says:
Okay, So, Like . . . NOW can we compare them to the Nazis?
and links to THIS:
Everytime the Israelis ramp up to a new overreaction I just think “Sand Creek” and “Wounded Knee”. Maybe I shouldn’t, but Gaza and the West Bank, and the horrible destruction of civilian life in response to the desperate resistance to occupation by a small number of young men remind me so much of the Indian Wars here.
So Final Victory of them.
107. Okay, so is there anyone out there who is still confused about what’s going on there? It doesn’t get any clearer than that.
I find solace where I can:
Working Class Hero by Marianne Faithful
Gonna offer a quick music review here.
Go buy Bettye LaVette’s “The Scene of the Crime”.
There is one particular song on there that really, really resonates with me. Here’s why (warning, roundabout story from an aging man) …
When I was young, I became a music fanatic, at a very young age. I had a little GE transister 9volt radio, black w/ silver “chrome” highlights, that I carried everywhere. I’m talking 6, 7 years old. Anyway, I fell in love with LOTS of different stuff … the album rock AM radio station I could pick up in Iowa played Motown and Zeppelin and so much else. In fact, my dad worked nights there. He would bring me old played-out 45s that they couldn’t use anymore.
One of the guys I fell in love with was Elton John. I just adored Elton John, and when I was older and had earned enough allowance to go to Western Auto to buy an album, I really wanted “Goodbye Yellow Brick Road”, but they were sold out. Impulsively, I bought “Tumbleweed Connection”, which had “Tiny Dancer” on it. Only song on it I knew.
There is a haunting song on the second side … “Talking Old Soldier”, an arresting piece. I loved the way Elton John and Bernie Taupin told these stories about people … not just drugs and sex and rock-and-roll, but actual STORIES. About people.
Anyway, Bettye has had a bit of a comeback doing covers of unlikely songs, (not unlike Johnny Cash’s last couple of albums), and her latest has an incredible cover of that obscure John/Taupin song.
You can hear it here: Talking Old Soldiers by Bettye LaVette
Anyway, rambling … sorry … but music is one of the few things people do right.
and actually, “Madman Across the Water” had “Tiny Dancer” on it, so I wasn’t even getting something I knew. Closest thing to a hit on that album was “Burn Down the Mission”. The NEXT two albums I bought were “Goodby Yellow Brick Road” and “Madman Across the Water”, which is way more than you care to know, anyway.
As literary brawls go, I prefer Vidal’s bout with Norman Mailer, who was completely outmatched. After a drunken Mailer attacked him at a party (either throwing a drink in his face or punching him -descripions differ) Vidal said “Once again, words fail Norman.”
Classic.
Alegre has a dkos diary up with update info on the Obama/NAFTA story.
Buckley, and his hate and bigotry, and his call for tattoos on AIDS patients (and yes, lucid, I have suspicions about the official line, too), but I think about people we lost, through ignorance and gov’t innaction, and it depresses the shit out of me.
tumbleweed connection is my favorite elton john album. not that i am much of a fan of his, its the only one i own apart from a MMatW cd. i used to work with this old punkster, mid 80s, and he culled a large portion of his album collection because he’d decided it dated him, or something. i bought more than a few of his albums for a buck or two a pop, all circa 196/early 70s. he was an absolute fanatic about record cleanliness and the one elton john album i got from him was tumbleweed connection.
im still laughing at him, all the way to the turntable! my copy of tc is, i assume, approx 38 years old, and still clean as a whistle.
theres something about the way he voices the piano chords, some type of open, clean 4ths and 5ths feeling i really like. plus the lyrics of course.
Hey Madman, I had one of those little transistor radios too. I don’t remember the make or model but it was about 4 x 6 inches – I guess shaped to go into a good-sized pocket.
I was about 10 before I got into listening to the radio (my own radio, as opposed to my parents’, which was always tuned to the local classical music station). It had a earplug, like an oldfashioned hearing aid – shove it right into your ear.
It’s hard to describe to younger people how massive a presence Elton John was in the ’70s. And now he’s fallen off the map.
I like this clip of him and Lennon doing Whatever Gets You Through The Night (no video, but the song and photos).
115: oh, let’s not kid ourselves, the left wing is chockfull of bigotry and hate too. Throw a piano and you’ll hit an abusive asshole fratboy – like, for example, Mailer.
The dog and pony show continues.
That was quick. That plagiarist in the WH (story I linked to here earlier) has resigned.
Maybe he’s starting up a publishing firm with Ben Domenich and Jason what’s his name…
In other news, no one in the Bush administration who commits war crimes ever has to resign.
And now, the sports.
Gee. The Huffington Post has a post by a real, honest-to-goodness king. Top that one, kos!
goofiness abounds
Obama’s doing some backpeddling.
So, I assume that means that he didn’t mean he’d meet with Kim Jong Il, Assad, Castro or Chavez either – just some other generic “leaders”.
Thanks for clearing that up, Wexler.
And now, I sleep.
Whoops: one more: Hizbullah slams deployment of US warships off coast [of Lebanon]
fwiw:
This Week: Clinton’s Howard Wolfson, Obama’s David Axelrod.
Face the Nation: Richardson, Dodd, Evan Bayh.
Meet the Press: Dem strategists Carville, Shrum & GOP’s Matalin, Mike Murphy.
Fox News Sunday: Rove, Sens. Dianne Feinstein, Dick Durbin.
Late Edition: Howard Dean, John Kerry, Min. Whip Roy Blunt, Rep. Silvestre Reyes
Kings can kiss my ass. Ditto queens, and fragile princes.
This evening I caught a glimpse of Baba Wawa (who has had some nasty plastic surgery, apparently involving cheekbone implants) doing a special on the Brit Royal Family. She burbled something about how HARD they work.
I agree with Ringo – they should all take a vacation and never come back.
well I went and looked at HuffPuffPo… Abdullah, someone reposted his address to the Woodrwo Wilson Center. Think it was Vidal who called the leadership there, Abdullah and Raina… “the operetta”, seems appropriate.
As for Ringo… iirc he gratefully accepted the OBE (think that is the Order they were inducted into, for making mucho cash for the UK) from ERex… it was Lennon who declined it.
I think it is best when people DON”T show up for awards/rewards of that sort.
Certainly trainloads of suck ups should have declined the Medal of Honor these years from Bush. But no, they sucked right on to that stage, in the midst of racist foreign war. Some of them even shared the stage with the war makers, Tenet, Bremer, Myers and so on.
People have no shame.
Angry Arab on royal helium:
If Prince Harry joined the British military earlier, I am confident that he would have been able to save the British Empire.
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As I recall, all the Beatles, including Lennon, accepted whatever honor was pressed upon them when they were young and Fab.
Bowie, however, would have none of it- when they tried to foist a knighthood upon him later in life, he declined.
Yay Bowie.
Nu thred…………………….
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People who have returned an honour
oh my. another error in my html.
People who have refused an honour