The Thousand and One Nights 20 March 2008
Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iraq War, WAR!.trackback
THEY CAME TO BAGHDAD
945 Buwayhids; 1055 Seljuks; 1258 Mongols led by Hulagu; 1340 Jalayrs; 1393 & 1401 Mongols led by Tamerlane; 1411 Turkoman Black Sheep; 1469 Turkoman White Sheep ; 1508 Safavids ; 1534 Ottomans under Sultan Sulayman the Magnificent; 1623 Safavids; 1638 Ottomans under Sultan Murad IV; 1917 British; 1941 British again to depose pro-German government; 2003 Anglo-American invasion

Protesters gather for March of the Dead
At 9:30 a.m. on March 19, the fifth anniversary of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, protesters from Activist Response Team and others march to symbolize military and civilian war dead. The march began at the Women’s Memorial in Arlington Cemetery.
photo by: Robert A. Reeder
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I caught Sinan Antoon last night on Charlie Rose and was reminded of this beautifully wrenching piece he wrote just after the invasion… Of Bridges and Birds
He was wonderfully forceful last night about what we have wrought with our invasion and the years of sanctions and bombings that preceeded the invasion, Charlie brought out his radio announcer’s voice but could not drown him out.. that voice he has used on anyone speaking truth whom Charlie deems not his peer, from Amy Goodman to Randall Robinson…
[H]aving a fascination with birds, I liked to go to Suq Al-Ghazl where birds and animals of all kinds were sold on Fridays. I also liked to sit on our roof and watch as the pigeons kept by our neighbour’s son would take their usual flight in the afternoon Baghdad sky. At times, these birds would dodge, and compete with, the kites flown by kids. Sometimes I could spot a flock of birds flying high above, en route to their breeding grounds in the north. Perhaps I remember this now because of something I read a few days before the US-led invasion. Reuters reported that these annual migration routes could be disrupted when the war erupted. In the period between mid-March and mid-April, one finds the greatest number of birds in Iraq. Since many of these birds cannot make it to their breeding grounds in one flight, they stop and “refuel” on the banks of the Tigris and Euphrates and in the southern marshes drained by Saddam.
Every year around this time I would look for the one or two white storks that used to nest on the dome of the old church in Bab Al- Mu’azzam. I wonder if they have made it to Baghdad this year? I doubt it. I clipped that Reuters article from Al-Hayat and left it lying around. When I read the article again on the second day of the war, American B-52 bombers were taking off from Fairfield Airbase in England and heading towards the skies over Baghdad. Someone on Fox News described them as “beautiful birds”, and Rumsfeld spoke of “the humanity which went into the making of these weapons”.
If they don’t perish first, the storks will try to return next year.
And this:
I felt pangs of pain a week ago as I watched an American tank crawling across Al- Jumhuriyya Bridge in the heart of Baghdad. I have crossed that bridge hundreds of times, and I used to linger a bit half way along, especially when walking alone, and look down at the river. The Tigris splits Baghdad into two sections: Al-Karkh, on the western bank, and Al-Rusafah on the eastern. I used to recite Ali Ibn Al- Jahm’s famous line about the enchanting, almond-shaped eyes of the Baghdadi women who used to cross from one bank to the other in the nineth century. On a lucky day, I would encounter a descendent or two of those women. Now the moon-like faces celebrated in thousands of verses are hiding in houses on both banks, white voyeuristic satellites are hovering above and scrutinising every inch of the city’s body.
More:
In 1991, the US bombed the bridge about which I am writing, slicing it in two. The justification then, as for the other acts of destruction now, was that it was part of the city’s “command and control network”. I rushed out the next morning on my bike to see for myself. Hundreds of Baghdadis had also come and were looking on in silence. Now unable to link Baghdad’s two banks, the bridge resembled a broken smile.
My best friend and I used to roam Baghdad, surveying the daily destruction and checking on friends and relatives to see if they had been consigned to the dubious category of “collateral damage”. The bombing had severed all communications in the first week, and the phones were dead. Now, tanks spit their fire towards a row of houses on the eastern bank of the Tigris, and blazes go up. A correspondent announces that Apaches are hovering over Baghdad for the first time, but, alas, this is a familiar species in our part of the world. They have come to make sure that Baghdad’s residents join the Palestinians as the fortunate recipients of the latest form of lethal “liberation”.
Rivers of blood are flowing along the Tigris as America tattoos its imperial insignia into the bodies of Iraqi children, stamping their futures with its corporate logos in order to “safeguard” it. There is an abyss in and around Iraq, and it is widening by the moment.
… from his close:
In The Thousand and One Nights, otherwise known as the Arabian Nights, that great work that is eternally synonymous with Baghdad, when morning comes, Sheherazad, mother of all narrators, must embrace silence and leave her readers to wonder where the narrative will go next.
For me, it is mourning time, and Baghdad is now enveloped in a long, cruel and starless night. But, just as she’s done in the past, she will wake up once more and try to forget. And I must tend to her scars, ward off her future nightmares, and shower her with kisses and love from afar.
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HA! Dennis Perrin has a smart post on our [all too often celebrity driven] cage rattling of the Chinese:
And Mia was too too too busy showily adopting a rainbow of children, along about 1984, to be on the barricades against our Olympics. Otherwise, she’d have been there! For sure!
And Arnold is smiling thru it all.
Photo essay on bomb cleanup in Iraq: Bombs Away
HA!
Obviously Kerry and McCaskill are in league with Geraldine. Obviously.
And.. an emailer popped me this, from Obama’s own senate website. oops. Thank GOD Geraldine did not say this. Think of the draaama if she had. I am so relieved.
The article, posted at the OBama senate site, a Chicago Trib piece from 2005 by Zeleny is loaded with timely commentary and quotes.
The troll-trolls at DK taking over the asylum.
Kos still works for the CIA? Wouldn’t doubt it now.
I agree. I did an experiment today! (3+ / 0-)
Recommended by:TexMex, LABobsterofAnaheim, llamaRCA
Sort of a devious little troll trap.
I posted a diary with a poll with two choices, one of which (in my view) no sane Kossack would choose.
about 20% chose that. Now, either I’m wrong, or we have a pretty good population of lurking trolls and enemy spies, or at least pretty unsympathetic readers. No reason to feel paranoid about that, after all, we wouldn’t be doing our job if this weren’t the case.
by Vanadium on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 07:33:30 PM PDT
[ Parent ]
Dropped in at John Morgan’s PA Progressive to see what was up… and saw this post:
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The whole “Kossack” business was such a nasty move. It started as a slight lighthearted joke as I recall.
Now it is some mystic group who feel they determine great notions and realities with regard to politics. whether one is or is not a Good Kossack.
Some heroic movement, in their crumbly rotted minds perhaps. Nowhere else that I can see.
clintons have a court date in April?
http://tinyurl.com/36ghmf
7. TROLL!
Somewhere, Joe Lieberman is smiling.
4. Throw everybody off the train. The time has come.
#2 – not to worry, we’ve got a candidate for . . . u m m m:
HOOPLA!
Re elderly (or older) protesters: The problem isn’t their ages. The problem, I suppose, is that nobody listens to mature people any more. In other cultures of the world, a show of graybeards would be a big deal. In America, there is of course the obsession with youth as some sort of mystic force that is the ultimate arbiter of anything and everything. Don’t get me wrong, I do believe that the chilluns R R future, but why do I get the feeling that when we’re done with our urgent need to elect a minority (nonwhite, or nonmale) to the presidency (and they too prove to be all too human), we’ll next be obsessed with electing a 14-year-old?
I suppose eventually it will devolve down into choosing a newborn – we’ll probably have competing claims over various toddlers, like they do when it’s time to choose the Dalai Lama. (“I FEEL it in my soul… read the diapers… he is The One!”)
Poor Scooter Libby was disbarred today.
Everyone cry in unison.
13.
Hey, at least when they choose the next Dalai Lama they actually have some tested criteria to use. With political candidates, it seems to come down to personality.
I’ve seen many attacks against the “baby boomers” by so-called lefties. What some young people don’t seem to realize is that peoples’ views and perspectives can and do change with age and experience. But, along with the belief in immortality, they simply refuse to acknowledge that they could ever change their beliefs.
Not sure if that came out right but lumping all of the “old people” together into some monolithic group is as erroneous as lumping all “young people” together. The younguns at the end of those types of attacks don’t like that but some don’t seem to want to extend the courtesy of individuality to those who are older at the same time.
Oh well. I guess they’ll figure it out when they become the target of the new younguns.
here, I knew I had this somewhere:
The strain of incredulity over the so-called left’s cognitive dissonance is taking its toll on my grey matter. IV caffeine – stat!
What’s up with this “better angels” thing? Where does that come from?
“Attendance for the third annual California Capital Airshow [featuring the Blue Angels] increased slightly from 2007, with more than 75,000 people attending this year’s two-day event
and when was the last time anyone listened to any young person, protesting or otherwise (referring to them blandly as “our future” doesn’t count), or took their grievances seriously?
it’s protest itself that is discounted, not the protesters. if they’re young, people dismiss them for being young. if they’re old, people dismiss them for being old. both age cohorts love to idly discount the other,to make themselves feel better about their political marginalization by pissing on a convenient “other.” age isn’t terribly salient when it comes to this, really.
Hey, at least when they choose the next Dalai Lama they actually have some tested criteria to use.
Yes indeed… I did not mean that remark to denigrate the searchers for the Dalai Lama, or any of the other lamas…
Here is a thought/feeling/impulse/whatever that bothers me about politicians making speeches about race, racial divides, racial injustice, our country’s racist past and present… this is too important for mere politics. I’m just uncomfortable with a mere politician using it as an opportunity for a candidacy-saving speech. I mean, MLK wasn’t running for anything. Maybe there’s a difference, or maybe there’s no difference. But there isn’t a single black OR non-black preacher, speaker or author who talks about race who commands the respect of “the masses” in this country – and now we’re looking to a politician for this word – I just find that a little odd. Don’t you find it odd that nobody in America cared to talk about race before a black man became a leading presidential contender? Isn’t this the cart leading the horse in some way?
feel free to shoot holes in these impressions… I absolutely am not attached to them. In any case, Obama’s doing better making speeches about race than Clinton is making speeches about gender…
18 Um, I’m not sure what you are talking about, but is usually meant to echo the closing of Lincoln’s first inaugural address.
make themselves feel better about their political marginalization by pissing on a convenient “other.”
I agree. So who is really the bad guy? we have the pikes and boiling oil all ready.
From the last thread:
simply don’t know enough about Tibet to make an intelligent comment on it.
I will … until the USA closes it’s empire building bases, until the USA stops building the world’s biggest prison system, until the USA releases political prisoners from Federal prisons (I suggest starting w/ Leonard Peltier), until the USA deals with the legacy of slavery and settles the Indian Trusts honestly and fairly, until the USA starts to reign in police misconduct and governmental abuses of Constitutional rights … UNTIL THAT DAY, the citizens of the USA and the government of the USA has no fucking right to raise their voices about the crimes of other nations.
Clean our own house, THEN we can start talking about human rights.
22. Good stuff. Thanks. It just seems to come up a lot lately – “better angels” – or maybe I’m just noticing it more.
Consumers Get Tangled In Terrorist Watchlist
So many scandals…so little time…
Obama passport info breach:
big scandal
bigger scandal
biggest scandal
all Hillary’s fault
the Rev. Wright thing might go away for a while … MSNBC is reporting that two State Dept. employees were fired after being caught last January (right when his campaign started to take off) snooping into Obama’s State Dept. passport records. They just notified Obama today … a holiday weekend, so maybe it won’t derail the Wright thing.
Apparently they’re supposed to notify a person who’s records were compromised fairly quickly … it took them 50 days.
I think I have a terror watchlist link in moderation.
I think I have a terror watchlist link in moderation.
The irony.
Some talking head on MSNBC just said that people wouldn’t access these files just out of curiousity ie. there had to be some political reason.
Ummm…why not?
Give Condi a medal of freedom (for allowing that freedom of information).
/kidding, but we all know how Bushco operates so I wouldn’t put it past delusional dubya
Orange comment of the day:
hey hey.. works for me. Get all the religion out. I’d love The Family to get a fuller exposition.
But someone will find the Dkos diary that Sharlet wrote (with Frederick Clarkson, he being the diarist of name) some months ago, both of them stating that her relationship with The Family needed to be looked at – and then Sharlet said he’d vote for her anyway.
GMAFB!
From Sharlet’s 2003 Harper’s article (they don’t link to this one, but do to a more recent Mother Jones and to an article at Sharlet’s own site):
MSNBC story on the passport breach.
KO is hyperventilating. Get the man a cold cloth for his forehead!
The Family connection to the Clintons scares the shit out of me.
Madman and catnip out of Moderation!
8)
…sorry for the delay. I was sound asleep, woke and the cat needed immediate attention, food water then after I quickly made myself a fried egg sandwich, noticed she pee’d off the edge of the big expanse of plastic, newsprint and toweling (we endorse Viva paper towels, LOL)…
so it took a while…
All of that from the Nation link above.
WV Democratic Primary
36. What?! You have a life??
Well to be blunt, who will pick up the bludgeon against the Family?
I seriously doubt that Obama will. Would media? Kinda doubt it.
Obama has no intention of opposing any power entity, certainly not one entrenched at the heart of US power.
One thing I think of often, a couple of years ago, nearly, Biden let loose with his dreadful line up of code words, among them “articulate” and “clean”. Further Biden has a history of, at best, insensitivity. Including selling himself in the pst to Southern states using DE having voted for slavery. And a few other instances I forget now…Much of the reaction to hsi remarks was from the media, for watever it si not worth…
ABC used a long arm big fuzzy mike and caught the conversation as Schumer (I recognised the back of his head and the polo coat) stepped into a book line no less (Obama signing books) and lobbed a “take or leave it” as I heard it apology of sorts to Obama for Biden. “You know he meant nothing…”
Obama, in owrds and body language could not be more accommodating, fast as could be… Fine, his to do. But also two power brokers, both male, in teh senate were at issue. DSCC, big money raiser and Biden, then iirc still ranking member of the Foreign Affairs committe (think this predated the 2006 win, when Biden became Chair).
I doubt Obama nor his surrogates will peep or squeak about The Family.
Chris Clarke on Obama’s speech:
I’ve been wanting to write something about Obama’s speech all week (maybe I will this long 3-day weekend), and what he says here is part of what has been bothering me. I’m having a hard time making myself write anything. It seems pointless, and the response to the speech, the right’s spinning of it, only makes it seem more pointless. I’m so burned out and tired of this country and its people that …
… well, and I don’t think I could say it as well, both as that above and this:
I’m beyond divisive, or hateful, or counterproductive. Some as to the left as I am is merely irrelevant, because I can’t even find a reason to find a little hope in Obama, as Clarke allows himself to find.
It’s all just a shadow play now.
Re: passport…
I am behind.. I must cathc up on this, had not heard.
BUT Hillary has an instant out and can infact commiserate. IIRC, this happened to Bill as well in the run in 92.
Just catching up to the passport story via NBC News.
Imagining a United States without the displacement, swindling, and murder of millions of Native people is harder.
I live in a corner of America where this past is still very real and very much unresolved, if only because the Native Americans living here have never (until very recently) dealt with BIA, they are still arguing on treaty grounds about their lands. It just goes back and forth and back and forth in the courts, and everyone is very much aware of whose land they live on or whose land they are alleged to be living on (depending on your point of view). It’s really surprising the dispute hasn’t gotten nastier than it has already been in some quarters.
And lemme tell ya, none of it is going to be resolved in a speech. It’s just a way of living that has to be lived out – preferably with a dedication to facts and laws. A lot of white folks around here have serious, serious trouble with basic historical facts (facts that were well accepted by our leaders 200 years ago). Syracuse is probably the most liberal and enlightened place in Iroquois country when it comes to Americans trying to accept inconvenient historical and legal facts and their implications, but that’s not saying much, yet – not much at all.
Little flurry of earthquakes out here.
38 WV
I don’t doubt racism is alive well and doing just fine thanks for asking.
But Gore lost WV as well. Byrd refused to endorse him, for his environmental issues, til I think the day before the vote. (of course he manged to lose TENN as well, LOL)
If I were Obama, and I am unsure if he can do this (clue, he is not Jesus) I’d be sitting down with Byrd. The Dems teamed them up when Obama got to the senate. If he was smart, he worked it to be a love team with old Byrd.
The other thing he HAS TO DO, and I don’t think wants to do (I think he was promised a kinda easy run after three early big wins, IA, NH and SC) is sit down with ordinary people in ordinary towns. Many of them white.
Never noticed he cared much about that at all, ordinary people i mean. Of any color. He sure did not bother here in CA.
Rejecing his Inner Evita.
Not good when you want to not just lead but lord it over people.
I am also pretty sure he is looking at his delegate numbers, the factions wtihin the party who reject, dislike the beaver in the game… how they can leverage MI and FL out of the primary games… and he sees he does not have to dirty his hands with the ordinary people.
GOOD LUCK AS IT GETS TOUGH IN OFFICE. Biden will not be getting his back.
Popcorn futures. Republicans are laughing.
Rasmussen on the impact of Obama’s speech.
Little flurry of earthquakes out here.
Stay safe!
And lemme tell ya, none of it is going to be resolved in a speech. It’s just a way of living that has to be lived out – preferably with a dedication to facts and laws. A lot of white folks around here have serious, serious trouble with basic historical facts
White Americans in general have little or no relationship with historical fact, and they get very angry and uncomfortable when history comes up.
It’s not only not gonna be resolved in a speech, it’s not going to be resolved. It will destroy this nation, eventually.
Re earthquakes – looks like the whole eastern Pacific rim is rockin’ tonight. Alaska… Baja…
Here is an interesting tidbit I just saw at TPM:
my guess was wrong…I saw this diary title up at dk: “Hey Media: Enough about Ashley.There’s a New Story in Town!” and I thought it was about the Ashley that Obama talks about in his stump speech- the youngish white Obama volunteer who, when asking a group of O supporters, has an elderly black man say “I’m here because of Ashley”
I demand that SNL do a skit where a sexy young woman asks a group of clinton supporters why they are there, and an Eliot Spitzer character volunteers “I’m here because of Ashley”
{x-posted at pff….}
keep your eyes peeled, San Franciscans:
http://bronzecondoms.com/found.html
More six degrees of Kevin Bacon.
I see MB has a post up about the Corporate Hall of Shame.
From their site:
Someone should set up a Blogger Hall of Sellouts site.
“UNTIL THAT DAY, the citizens of the USA and the government of the USA has no fucking right to raise their voices about the crimes of other nations.”
We all have the right. The country where I live doesn’t preclude me or others for speaking out, just as others in foreign nations do.
Speaking of MB, here he is in the Obama passport FP thread:
I hope they occupy themselves with this story for weeks over there. Maybe they can work that “darkened” Obama video into it too.
More teh stoopid:
I swear they really do think they’re the center of the fucking universe over there and that they know things no one else does. Alert the world!!
swear they really do think they’re the center of the fucking universe over there and that they know things no one else does. Alert the world!!
sigh. And they bitch and moan over street protest or confrontation with an ELECTED officials.
One thing I always remember, think it was Sinclair Communication (and I am sure this is easily searched at DKos if anyone cares) had a slash and burn docudrama out against Kerry. Think they called it Winter Soldier, as well.
Well Dkos was going to make sure that was never shown. Blah blah blah. Weeks of diaries, screaming yelling bitching moaning.
I did see snips from it, and what little I saw was inflammatory. Gee what else is new.
Anyway, I read ELSEWEHRE than Dkos, that des[ite all the raging, it was shown, heavily, the weekend before election in Southern and border/battleground states. More than 11 iirc, not sure if they made it up to the full combined count of 22 states.
The hue and cry rivaled IBM 1972 Selectrics…
Obama spends $1.5 million a day
Clinton spends $1 million.
What a waste of money.
Charlie R is managing a better than usual mini roundtable on Tibet… Orville Schell, Pico Iyer, and a couple academics, one Tibetan.
Bill Richardson endorses Obama.
i don’t really buy that, madman. better to raise one’s voice against all tyranny than to stay silent because one’s own backyard is a mess.
of course, better yet is o try and understand why these things happen, but that doesn’t always lend itself to denunciation.
but generally, i have enough bile to speak ill of the actions of several governments. as long as one doesn’t pretend that one’s gummint’s hands are clean, it’s OK.
interesting backstory on the lhasa riots
wu ming
thanks so much for that link… It touches more directly with more detail on points made, sometimes obliquely, by the roundtable tonight on CR.
Great site!
From the Tibetan link at 62…
Nancy P is in India with the DL… they say the visit was arranged before the unrest.
Good discussion (long video).
yeah, that guy came up with the only theory that even marginally made things clearer to me. not unlike when it finally came out that the burma protests were sparked off by a structural adjustment-driven gas hike, there’s always a spark that gets the ball rolling, that’s worth paying attention to.
a beautiful, if heartbreaking post at the top of the thread, marisa, BTW. i used to hope, when this had all just began, that some day we’d sort it all out and learn to be like human beings again, like what happened in vietnam and korea. i despair of iraqis ever walking across their bridges again in peace, much less have any heart that i might do so as an old man.
it is hard to make sense of how evil such a war can be.
Whoops. White granny under the bus again. Tapper had picked it up for the early morning am ABC splutter.
I think Obama needs to spend some time with Kenyan step grandmother. A few months ago a reporter reached her village and tried to bait her (as I saw it, looking for a little more than quote) on the presidential contest. She was having none of it. It was a contest, she said, between the man and the woman, up to them to battle it out.
Go Granny!
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yes I don’t have much hope that a mere 25 or so years in Iraq can restore what we have destroyed… For one thing we are nto leaving… We did leave Viet-Nam… no reparations, and I would never deny that life there was harsh harsh harsh afterwards. But it had been before as well, under us, the French and so on.
My father used to shake his head and say they had pushed everyone out who tried to invade, they would push us out as well.
Leslie Gelb [ugh] admitted the other night on Charlie Rose, there isn o winning. Not in Iraq and NOT IN AFGHANISTAN either. That no one has subdued Afghanistan, ever.
If only we could get it.This gibberish that the Dems are spouting, from Nancy to HIllary to Barbara Boxer, just this week again, that it is up to the Iraqis, we gave them freedom now they need… blah blah blah. Just disgusting.
Obama Iraq speech, full text, The World Beyond Iraq:
Snafu fubar on a trisquit.
i don’t really buy that, madman. better to raise one’s voice against all tyranny than to stay silent because one’s own backyard is a mess.
Except that Americans, for the most part, only raise their voices on OTHER country’s atrocities. Are Clooney, Bono, Mia et al saying ANYTHING about the plight of the First Nations or the neglected inner cities? How about our brutal and gigantic prison-industrial complex? Oprah would rather build schools somewhere else. A lot of people get really mad when reparations, or paying a fair amount for the Indian Trust is brought up.
I’m not saying that this is true of folks here, but on the main …
The Onion: Are We Giving Robots Too Much Power?
80,000 Angry Men. Is the US Surge collapsing?
MCat, no. 45,
Gore lost a number of competitive states in 2000, such as WV, Missouri, Ohio, and his native Tennessee, and I believe the reason was his Jewish running mate. Nobody has ever discussed this that I’m aware of, but just as there are millions of quiet racists who won’t even consider voting for an African-American, so there are millions of quiet bigots who won’t ever vote for a national ticket that includes a Jew in either of the spots. It might also have made the difference in New Hampshire, which Gore lost by only 7,200 votes. It is true that environmentalism made a difference in WV, where people are still trapped in a life in which digging coal out of the earth (increasingly at non-union mines) is the only viable way to make a living.
BTW, I’ve seen some whispers that McCain might actually choose Lieberman as his running mate, which would be a colossal blunder, IMHO. At this point, I don’t think most Jewish voters would cast a ballot for him, and he brings nothing else to the ticket. And unless I’m forgetting some elderly pair of running mates from the past, it would also make the GOP ticket the oldest ever to contest a national election. McCain is already older than Reagan was when he was inaugurated, and Lieberman is 66 years of age. Should they be elected, on McCain’s 2009 birthday (August 29th, if you’re interested in sending gifts) their combined age will be 140 years.
And yes, BushCo. did dig up a lot of passport information on Bill Clinton in 1992, specifically about a trip he made to the Soviet Union while he was studying at Oxford. They tried to circulate rumors that Clinton had tried to renounce his US citizenship as part of his draft-dodging activities.
Madman, no. 71,
Back in the 1980s, while Bono was becoming extraordinarily rich, the Irish economy was flatlined, with something like 20% unemployment (at least). So far as I know, he never did a thing in the way of social activism for his fellow citizens, or even try to highlight the enormous problems that his own country faced, or engage in any kind of dialogue that might have encouraged people to change things. W/r/t rich celebrities, their indignation over political opression and economic injustice increases in direct proportion to the distance it exists from where they live and make their money.
…I don’t think most Jewish voters would cast a ballot for him…
What a nice thought !
McKinney gets tagged a “tinfoil hatter” for meeting with a few 911 conspiracy theorists but Obama is under the wing of Joe and none of his acolytes raise an eyebrow. Who’s fucked us over worse ? Some people who believe a robot plane crashed into the towers or Joe Lieberman ?
Tch.
Protesters outside a downtown bank in PDX on Wednesday were pepper-sprayed by the bike cops. First the cops herded them onto the sidewalk and then sprayed them for being on the sidewalk. Which is actually supposed to be legal. All the same cops who sprayed protesters here in 2002 are still employed at their old jobs. Several have been promoted.
I’m going back into my underground bunker now. See you all in about six months. :/
ooooo boy, I was waiting for this:
Gore Vidal Speaks Seriously Ill of the Dead
Thanks for that link Madman. I’m afraid Gore’s last line is sadly prophetic.
A Message from Cynthia McKinney – A Discussion of Race Worth Having
Some possible good news today. Gordon Brown is said to be close to granting asylum for Mehdi Kazemi, the young gay Iranian teenager fighting not to be extradited by the Netherlands and UK. He would be put to death upon return for homosexuality (as his boyfriend already was).
Let’s hope Brown does it, and soon.
Re Native American issues, I realized the other day that David Paterson’s ascension to governor has an interesting potential. Historically, New York State’s relations with the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) are very touchy because the dispute is between the state of New York and the Haudenosaunee, not so much between America and the Haudenosaunee (only so far as the federal government has not been enforcing its treaties). Officially, the state’s recognition of the Haudenosaunee is kind of schizo (there is only one state historic site dedicated to them that isn’t about a battle) and I don’t think there’s been a major high level negotiation with Albany since the days when Mario Cuomo was lieutenant governor (over the Ganienkeh occupation, I think).
But Paterson was very involved with the resolution of the African Burial Ground issue in NYC, he was pretty passionate about it, and repatriation of ancestral remains and relics is still a live issue with the Haudenosaunee (and it connects to various land rights actions and claims that are still extant). So… this is just to say… you never know how pieces of the puzzle might fit together in resolving old wounds. (Although if the Governor of New York ever even made a comment about it or, Lord above, actually went to Treaty Day in Canandaigua… well, I don’t think I’ll see that in my lifetime, but you can hope.)
Counting The Dead in Iraq
Whole lotta passport breachiness going at at the State Dept, apparently: Hillary, McCain’s too according to Condi.
The Fed Packages Corruption as Sound Public Policy
That’s quite something. Blowback. And all of the prez candidates have touted their cooperation as a success.
Sean McCormack is such a weasel. Blah blah blah…is my face red?
Shellac Sisters, DJs who play 78s
Story behind the story: The Clinton myth
Shoe
I Knew Gene Kelly. The President Is No Gene Kelly.
U.S. Defends Tough Tactics on Spitzer
The Kossacks really do live in a crazed fantasy world.
Recall when little boy-king Markos thought it would be “fun” to trip up Republicans by having Democrats vote for Romney? Well if Rush Limbaugh copies him and asks Repubs to do the same, it’s bad!
“Could Rush Limbaugh be charged in Ohio for encouraging Republicans to cross over and vote in the Democratic Primary? I doubt it. But, the actual voters who crossed over may be investigated”
But don’t look for one single Koswhack to note the irony.
Or hypocrisy.
I’ve got to swear off these gay porn sites: Brand This Cowboy!
Well one person noted the astounding hypocrisy and idiocy of Kos and his Kontrol Krew:
Well could somebody else be charged (0 / 0)
for asking people to cross over and vote in the Michigan Primary?
This was such a stupid move Kos – I hated this and don’t like to see this again. Lets not get involved in right wing strategies.
by tari on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 12:01:23 PM PDT
But don’t expect a peep from the deluded faithful.
Just woke up, must rush around and catch up.
Nothing in Moderation and nothing in Spam. Hallelujah!
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If encouraging cross over votes is good for the Gander, it is good for the Goose.
She is vilified for whatever where ever (hey go for it!) but it is openly a tactic to register R to vote for Obama. In PA, if what I have been reading for days is accurate. Chris Bowers has been the frantic little non-beaver, LOL, doing just that…
Get over it! Over and over, Obama seems to beg to be thrown the soft ball. Not a good sign.
What’s incredible is how I’ve come to the terrible position of defending HRC, or at least the tactics, which repel me on all sides.
Markos should take full responsibility for his bonehead crossover vote idea and none of the Kosswhacks can doth protest.
I love the endless stern nerd demands for a candidate to step down! It’s over! If Markos had ben an adviser to McCain, he wouldn’t be the nominee. Good luck with that future consulting gig.
-people constantly forget this this politics, or appear to forget, to enable whomever.
yeah I am nto interested in defending Hilarious. Not in the slightest. But don’t tell ANYONE to get out of a political race.
OVer and over the Democrats crafted such complicated rules for themselves… the Rules are a FUCKING JOKE. And yet one faction yells for the rules to be observed. meaningless! Totally.
Infact I just read last night that the Dem who joined with the R on the FL lege, that sealed the deal for the early primary there, has now withdrawn his endorsement of Obama. Someone named Jeremy Ring.
He apparently openly states his desire was to “blow up the primary system”. I cannot know what goes on behind closed doors, but I read enough editorials and opinon pieces that in FL (Mostly ST pete Times and Miami Herald and the big Tampa paper) it appears to have been the R state lege that moved it up. I also listened to the head of the FL D party on Tavis the other night… she said there si a tape of the fight in the lege between the R and the Democrats over it, that it got nasty, with jeers and cat calls and the R laughing at the Dems. Poor widdle Dems.
The party got taken, again by the R. It always happens.
Obviously with help from the Jeremy Rings of the world.
The Democrats are tied in knots over their endless rules, the utter weakness of the DNC under Howard (argh, I never supported his run for DNC chair, ever!, all his enemies wanted him to run, all the operatives, Geesh Get a CLUE!)
The Democrats will never simplify their system. It is so rigged, and they like it. Now their nuts are in a screw!
As Best I can guess, and all of thsi is way over my head… Hillary wnats or plans or thinks she can blow him up in PA NC WV, perhaps all three, perhaps two.
His job? Run hard, to win. Not for a showy walk.
Who did he think he was running against? Daffy Duck?
50 different delegate selection plans for the states (that of Texas alone is 37 pages long) and that is just the beginning. It is something designed to be manipulated by the party mandarins.
The problem I have with the Clintonites etc is that once Obama has managed to win in this crazy system that they designed, or at least were quite happy with while they were running things, they suddenly start crying foul.
the problem being that if counts and amounts, and come on down and make a deal, all but Monty Hall on the stage!, were reversed the Obama people would be invoking one man one vote. Some Let Freedom RIng cry!
ANd they would be saying MAN, LOL by my observation of that game, over on that side.
Good luck to them all.
Sam Harris:
Well Religion – with a big fat capital “R” – goes hand in hand with prohibition and authoritarianism. Screwing the lid on tight, so we suffocate…
Which is all we are going to get from any of the car salesmen. Which is all thsi crew is.
100 Well this is old stuff, and my views are known to anyone who cares and not important to anyne else, but I again reiterate my point that whatever legitamized slavery etc etc was whatever was at hand. Not many thread is classicall philosophy were very anit-slavery, for instance. Does anyone believe slavery would never have existed but for Christianity?
It seems to me that people imagine some alternative history where there was no religion, and that somehow that would have been sweetness and light. When people pick up the cudgels, the machine guns, they justify it with whatever is at hand.
Currently there is no god but money. That seems to work just as well at obliterating ancient cultures – and killing human beings – around the world as any army advancing under the flag of some god.
Does anyone believe slavery would never have existed but for Christianity?
well no. Since there was pre Xtian slavery as well. Muslim slavery. We have had modern era slavery in non xtian countries.
But certainly religion gets used and all too often happily used, it sinks right down into the gutter of whatever it is needed for. From the religious leadership on down.
To me it is all about control. From some controlling authority.
and so on.
Richardson’s stage directions. lol
But look at some of the comments. Sheesh. Some people have no sense of humour.
bangs head against wall.
Christians have too many holidays. It’s hard out there for an atheist grandma on a limited budget!
105 — Well, I guess there is a limit to my defence of this kind of thing.
May I anoint your owie?
(I’m melvin, and I reject, denounce, decry, dismiss, eschew, renounce, disbelieve, condemn, abjure, protest, abhor, and declare anathema and heretical this message.)
Tweety calls Obama and Richardson together on the stage as the “many faces of Benetton”. lol
107
LOL
108 Speaking of phony bullshit propaganda drives, Benetton Trying to Evict Mapuche from their Lands
This is extremely interesting from a lesbian minister, with contacts inside Trinity. Still reading, have not finished it…
LOL I have a confession, literally years ago, my private nickname for Meteor Blades was…
Benetton Ad.
I mean he was just too too precious. All things to all and smiling all the way. Damned adware…
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112 You are a wicked, wicked mcat! It would be nice to get to the bottom of this Meteor Gump business.
boy, comment 6 at the Bilerico, linked at comment 111, just pulls out all the hoary old put downs.
hmm be sure to do it in the name of Jesus. As Obama sets about Healing The Whirled.
I did not know this Sunday was Easter until Mitm said some people had a three-day weekend, and I thought, no, Cesar Chavez Day is March 31, and presidents day was last month. The fact I would see these canned easter baskets in Long’s–with frisbees and basketballs in them– didn’t really clue me in because holiday trinkets are sold way long before the actual holiday.
Anyway, the cashier in Longs today–first they ask you if you found everything you were looking for (A silly question when your basket contains vodka and Bloody Mary mix)–wished me a happy Easter and I was tempted to tell him I was Jewish, which I’m not.
Back in my day, we had the same easter baskets year after year, we re-used the “grass”, and we ultimately had to eat the damned hard-boiled eggs.
rather eat those hardboiled eggs than those raw marsh mellows, and I didn’t even have to cut cane.
waves to Miss D!
dianeL? longtime.
Not to worry! If indeed you were worried… Obama rejects and denounces. Or condems and denies. Or … something or other… LOL
Oh, that pic of the Obama family is so precious, and all to celebrate the hanging of a human being by his arms from a pole until he slowly suffocates under his own body weight!
*sniffle*
Really, really ….had to quickly quit pfffft, should’ve known better anyway; but, one wants to cuddle up next to their own species……no matter how nuch they batter…..
don’t we?
“much” also.
(pride and all that …..ya know?)
rather eat those hardboiled eggs than those raw marsh mellows,
Hey now! Don’t be dissin’ my peeps.
Fine Nepetia, catmint, but I’m sure you don’t gobble those cute little suckers ….
do you?
they’re fricken greenish white?
and that glittery sparkly stuff…well, it rots your teeth!
Peeps are getting bigger every year.
I’m sure someone’s done something on the theme of “peep show”
I shamelessly stole Madman’s link to pad my own den. Sorry, Madman. It’s my twisted revenge because I had neither the time nor energy earlier this week to jump into the whole fray about legalized prostitution. Can you all say “collect one decade’s worth of burnout and pass ‘GO’ ?” I knew you could.
Shortly I should have some more cheery offering up on my page. I don’t mean Peeps, either. As food, those things scare the living daylights out of me. But one day when I’m rich I’m going to have a concrete garden border cast around my lot that will resemble a 5000′ row of Peeps sitting side by side. I plan to be an iconoclastic conspicuous nouveau riche consumer.
hmmmmm…..GO You Chicken Fat GOOOOOOOOOOO!
You’ve been abused ms xeno, don’t trust those fricken peeps….
(you’ll be toothless………..)
Are the original Peeps too ostentatious to serve in the garden, diane ? Would I be better off with the rabbit-style ? I was afraid those would be more inclined to get chipped during hailstorms, what with the ears and all…
still water runs deep……
hmm well those rabbit ears are quite long Ms Xeno…
Have you ever heard Burl Ives sing Mr. Rabbit ..Mr. Rabbit….your ears are mighty long….
Yes my Lord…they’re put on wrong………
But I think they’ll do just fine……
But then again….occasionally…I foolishly believe in Miracles!
hmmmmmm…now that I’ve sufficiently bored the socks off of everyone but my ornery bossom buddy, Ruby the CAT….(actually…she’s quite Fine! yet she knows how to scratch) is there any human out there who wants to talk to me anymore???????
Moyers is doing the show on the movie “Body of War” tonight.
…here goes….Mr. Rabbit, Mr. Rabbit….your eyes are mighty red….yes my Lord I’m jus bout dead……
I guess only children grasp how special these songs are…
but then again, maybe not?
Waves to the Ladies!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fine Nepetia, catmint, but I’m sure you don’t gobble those cute little suckers ….
Of course not. I worship them. In fact, I’m working on a peep shrine as we speak!
134. I believe.the peep is the post-it of spirituality.
I nominated you for best female blogger (for prescience in leading the rebellion against Kos).
not a peep:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/images/photo/2008/03/21/20080321POD/22520080.JPG
had never heard of the Procession of the Mysteries.
Nepetia catmint,
Wishing you just prepared funnelcakes with a light powdering of confectioners sugar and your favorite tea on any freezing morning you might encounter…
Hmmmm maybe some berries on top!
Moyers is doing the show on the movie “Body of War” tonight.
Very powerful and so maddening…still.
138. Thanks, diane. (cheesecake…cheesecake)
I have Moyers on …
(Hi to Diane!)
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A Letter to Barack Obama – Where’s the Change, Barack?
Feds to Appeal AIPAC Case. It’s been rescheduled 8 times.
LOL Obama is calling for a CONGRESSIONAL investigation into the Passport File Intrusion.
That’ll do it. As soon as they are done with steroids.
more peepstuff:
http://www.peepresearch.org/smoking.html
more nostalgia:
“I remember (9+ / 0-)
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When it was just a blog and a link to some of Kos’s music. It was good then, but that was because we lucked out on having Billmon, Steve Gilliard and Marisacat in the threads to talk to.
Aloha!
by wetzel on Mon Mar 17, 2008″
Noticed this in a dKos post on an “Obama Encounter”…
At one point, and 74 year-old man stood up to tell Barack that he was now blind- color blind, specifically due to the speech he gave this week.
Steve Gilliard
You know, Rachel Corrie’s parents managed to get her journals edited down to some form of manageable book.
Where are Steve Gilliard’s “friends” when it comes to his writings? I’d actually like to be able to write a review on how bloody wrong he turned out to be in his predictions about the course of the Iraq war.
But I don’t want to sort through years of blog posts.
Target Venezuela!
New thread
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