The most important election since………… 7 May 2008
Posted by marisacat in 2006 Mid Terms, 2008 Election, Abortion Rights, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, SCOTUS, Sex / Reproductive Health, WAR!.trackback
… since Jeeesuhs! [The First, that is!] The big push, the eternal push is on… “where are they going to go?” “Choice, SCOTUS, the most important election”…. they roll it out. If the party had a heart or a brain (or even an operating reflux system) they’d gag on their own words.
Somewhere or other I caught commentary that “aides to Obama admit, it will be harder to unite than normally”. Oh I am so entertained! And Chuck Todd slipped and said on Charlie Rose Monday night, that “even if he does not win the GE, Obama will have accomplished what the Democrats need”…
I dunno, finished second, ankles broken, shattered in fact?? Play it again, Sam.
Who knows. The Dems cannot win for losing. BTW, that is not an ass backwards endorsement of Hillary. But both she and McCain are rogues, Obama is controllable. IMO.
I must say, Black Agenda Report has push back. Top to bottom on the page.
I’ve loved the fiction these past weeks and months, rolling around in re-used cooking grease, that the leadership, the establishment, the national level, the DC Dems are so not racist. It is only the little people trapped in forgotten towns, with retrograde brains — and let’s not even start that there was no independent, published commentary from the so called left of the aisle on the ugly opinions of Wright on brains by race. The reason why is that all that matters is elections. Don’t fuck with the game, science and everything else be damned. Very simple…
AND that reminds me of the between clenched teeth admission from Daschle (a lobbyist, which the media has conveniently forgotten) that the reservation, a counted upon vote for him, went for Thune. He gave the cleaned up version publicly, that ‘of course they may vote for whom they wish’. I doubt that is what he said at home the night he lost the election. I never put time in to get details, but it seems the reservation went to Thune and cut a deal (quite aside that Daschle’s fortunes were tied to Janklow, the former R governor then single rep whose personal fortunes changed due to vehicular homicide and he fell from power). Of what shape or type and did he ever make good… I have no idea. But the several thousand voters went for him. It made a difference.
I say, wise up! The choice, the game is between a Roberts/Alito or the breakaway, secular radicalism of … a Justice Kennedy. Yes, that was sarcasm.
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Oh! This is too good not to pull forward! (the big question, have denali and pinche tejano and paid asstroturfer donkeytale called peeder a racist yet? Cuz they have called everyone else a racist that is not toenail to tooth for ObamaRama):
Look, the righties have tarred her for 16 years precisely because they KNOW ALL TOO WELL that the 90’s were the BEST PERIOD for this country in THE LAST 50 YEARS. And they KNEW that anyone with their eyes on their wallet (their BASE) would gladly pay a bit more tax to go back to those years. they KNEW that Bill Clinton completely fixed and reversed the Bush deficit and here we have another one.
And so they KNOW that the idea of a fiscal conservative holding their noes and voting Hillary is a DISTINCT possibility and it may well spell the DEATH KNELL for the Republicans-as-Prednits meme they have tried to hammer home.A PRGAMATIC liberal’s strategy would be to elect Hillary (DUH!) and then pressure her from the left in Congress. DUH!
but these fuckikng optimists think they can punch in some black nobody, completely BLIND to all history recent and otherwise of how people actually win office, and if that fantasy was to even come true, have that one Queen on the board with no supporting pieces on the hill and somehow make anything more of it other than another Carter disaster signle term presidency that leads us to another 12 years of Republican destruction.
And yes, AGAIN WITH FUCKING PROBLEMS WITH IRAN.
Disraeli’s warning is so fucking lost on these supposed interlectulals.
FUCK YOU FOR FUCKING UP THE WORLD WITH YOUR STUPID FUCKING OPTIMISM!
by peeder @ Wed May 07, 2008 at 02:28:01 AM PDT
Sorry for the length, but this comment was just too hilarious to pass up!
From hamburger hamburger hamburger promises promises promises…, 2008/05/07 at 10:04 AM
[does he seem a tad, oh I don't know, UPSET?, LOL Mcat]
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BTW, this is the thread from whence peeder’s bon mots are drawn …. and while i was there, trudging thru the reactionaries… there is this from Market Trustee:
*[new] Blue Dogs flexing muscle (0.00 / 0)
The Hill Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (Md.), the House Democrats’ point man in negotiations on an overhaul of intelligence surveillance law, is keeping his eye on conservative Blue Dog Democrats who might defect on the issue under Republican pressure.
[...]If Congress does not approve an overhaul of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) by Memorial Day, intelligence community officials will have to prepare dozens of individual surveillance warrants, a cumbersome alternative to the broader wiretapping authority granted by the Protect America Act, say congressional officials familiar with the issue.Conservative and freshman Democrats are growing skittish. These lawmakers expect campaign opponents to accuse them of imperiling national security if Congress does not enact new intelligence surveillance legislation.
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Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has stepped back from the FISA talks and let Hoyer spearhead House talks with the Senate and executive branch. Some Democrats say privately that she has not shown much urgency to reach agreement with the White House.
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“A number of Blue Dogs are working on a compromise between the House and the Senate,” said Rep. Jane Harman (Calif.), a member of the Blue Dog Coalition and the former ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. “I’m working with Hoyer and working with others. “Some other Blue Dogs are involved,” she added. “Blue Dogs are 47 votes; 47 votes will determine how this comes out.”
I wonder, what Barry’s position on FISA? I also wonder …still… who he will choose for a running mate. Pelosi sez, “the candidate, whoever he or she may be, should choose his or her own vice presidential candidate.“
I sure hope Barry picks a super-good VP.
by MarketTrustee @ Wed May 07, 2008 at 05:20:23 AM PDT
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His Veepessa will be chosen for him. It would not be any other way. They probably can choose their own rings and location for the reception… LOL — Mcat
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…A PRGAMATIC liberal’s strategy would be to elect Hillary (DUH!) and then pressure her from the left in Congress. DUH!…
Pressure her. Sure. Might as well just pass out bags of pixie dust now and be done with it. Pixie dust is about as real as “the left” in Congress.
[snerk]
When my stomach stops churning, I’ll come back and tell my story du jour about The Working Families Party.
In the meanwhile, enjoy this priceless gem from the freeslave about life amongst my enlightened brethren. It’s now been nearly three years since I departed public service but whoa does this shit take me back.
[cringe]
I don’t even know where to begin on the Peeder comment… The very first sentence is a screen spitter…
And what’s the problem with Iran again? Oh, right, they’re gonna slingshot some spent nuclear fuel at Israel after they figure out fission reactors ten years from now…
via Geraghty at Campaign Spot at NRO
You gotta love it!
Another good one from Geraghty — I read the saner righties to cleanse of what I call Liberal Sugar:
I wanted to link to a good piece about FEMA and New Orleans. It’s hard to do a good excerpt because the spacing shows up weird on my screen.
No Way To Treat Our People.
Stop by my pad for the excerpt and get a musical interlude at no extra charge.
This will go over well with the Masters of the Universe.
“The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission will require Wall Street investment banks to disclose their capital and liquidity levels,”
I am going to laugh all day long. IOZ somehow got an email from Kerry, offering, for a donation to Lautenberg, Ioz a place in the “progressive movement”… right. With Kerry and Lautenberg.
Kerry harkens to the Great Battle against Alito. One fo the bigger jokes around. At the close of it… Turley said there was no evidence of a coordinated Democratic Party. They came to the battle too disassociated, one from the other much less as a coherent panel of lawyers on the Judiciary, to mount an attack. They could not even use the nomination process as an opportunity to discuss their alternative beliefs for the federal judiciary.
Of course not, for two decades and more they have valiantly rubber stamped pro life judges to the federal bench… .
right right, all about the SCOTUS. Now that the bird bath is inhabited by the foxes..
Is the Pentagon Policy Shop Funding Likudist Fronts?
http://www.politicalfleshfeast.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=3128
I love how whenever Obama wins a big one, the stock market plunges.
Yeah, that’s confidence.
Lautenberg is aiming to become the Strom Thurmond of the north. He’s even got a train station named after him and I think he’s older than Grand Central.
He’s too pro Israel and too pro gun control
Other than that he’s not a horrible Senator
stockmarket…
yeah when I heard it was down 71 pretty fast, I thought of that. Maybe with a Chicago base he (and his) is seen as too tied to the commodity end of things.
I have no real idea…
hmm I skipped Oprah interviewing Babawa… but here is Nicholas Lemann in The New Yorker on her, her self as an entertainment phenom … and her book.
i’d be more worried about him if the stock market went up, NYCO.
Consolation for Clinton Feminists: Obama is the Better Woman
I suspect the diarist isn’t a white/black kind of gal either or she would have picked up on the fact that Obama has managed to integrate AA concerns into the generic “American” concern leaving black issues in the dust.
And those states would be…?
And Obama hasn’t been a “dick”?
Exsqueeze me?
Barack is the new woman. Maybe next week he’ll burn his bra in public. Stay tuned.
Is the Pentagon Policy Shop Funding Likudist Fronts?
Afaic, Amnesty International should launch an inquiry into the US gov’t support of Israeli war crimes just as they have done with US backing of Ethiopia’s.
Obama is every woman in spam.
Is the Pentagon Policy Shop Funding Likudist Fronts?
Is the Pope a Nazi?
fwiw, Pam Martens has a 2-parter at CP on BO’s ‘not taking $$$ from lobbyists & other useful fictions’:
Obama’s Money Cartel
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The Obama Bubble Agenda:
The correlation of Obama wins to stock market plunges simply has to do with the fact that he represents chaos and uncharted territory.
It doesn’t mean he wants the stock market to go down or that he’s an enemy of business as usual; it’s just that the chaos represented by his candidacy scares the market even more than it already is.
Mcat, I had to borrow your old post about Gerri Santoro because someone elsewhere was being an ignorant ghoul. Or goon. Take your pick. I apologize in advance if this brings in any troll traffic. Thanks.
re-inventing the stories-we-tell-about-ourselves:
So it’s a question of how do we absorb the resources of our culture? In America it’s funny because a lot of people don’t even understand that their culture is African, European and Native. You know what I mean? It’s broader than the establishment would have it be, obviously. To really absorb it you have to understand that you are all of it. And a lot of people don’t because of racism, or people are not well educated, don’t know much about the world. This is defiantly a culture that’s deep and rich, and richer and deeper than people even understand.
If you have Africa and Latin America and Europe to draw on, I mean effortlessly, as your psychological and historical kind of cultural development and you don’t know that, well, then you’ll settle for Kenny G. Amiri Baraka
the fact that he represents chaos and uncharted territory
o, nonsense!
Bloomberg doesn’t mention Obama’s win as the cause of the market decline.
..but they have been wrong before.
By all these measures — by every measure — it’s Barack Obama who has exemplified our lofty standards of feminist leadership
Apparently, the Amanda Marcotte standards?
Apparently, the Amanda Marcotte standards?
You got it!
Mr Feminist Goes to Washington
Such sore and confused losers: Hillary LOSES Indiana 53-47!
How to make O supporters’ heads explode: Superdelegates say, we will decide
Fainting couch for Pelosi in aisle one.
By the way the stock market was up the first few hours of the day, it plunged at midday.
it plunged at midday.
When the Obama latte crowd went out to celebrate?
(kidding)
lol, i think it happened when Hillpac said she’s leaving the race when they pry her dead fingers off the nomination.
The market plunged when oil took a sudden lurch upward. Went right off a cliff right then … it had been hovering at flat-to-low-50s-down territory most of the day.
32. Buzzkill.
Another Year of Carnage Brought to you by Corporate Democrats By Cindy Sheehan
33 – lol
Is/is:
FBI withdraws National Snoop Letter:
The White Stuff
Madman (2)
and
Arcturus (1)
out of Moderation.
Sorry! for the delay. Sound asleep………..
37 on Arcturus link on the NSL letters
Another case involved an NSL served on a group of librarians.
If I had not terminally thrown my hands up in the air over the Democrats, the 3 hour program from C-Span that I saw on the CT librarians who got the national security letter would have done it.
They were giving a sort of speech and discussion of the whole of the event to an interested group in VT… and along the way, asked the group to lobby Leahy about this.
Get this. They, the CT librarians had contacted his office and sought to meet with him or an aide about the .. I guess, couple of years that their lives hung in the balance. They went literally into a twilight zone once the letter was delivered. One of the realities of getting such a letter, apparently, is that you are forbidden to discuss it with anyone. Finally in some convoluted way they were able to reach out to the ACLU.
This will remind of Nancy and her sweep by the Code Pink protesters… only worse.
Leahy would not meet with the CT librarians. They were not his consitituants.
You serve on the Judiciary, you are, at that time, the ranking member as your party is out of power. A significant national level event such as happened to the CT librarians occurs… after the event, they reach out to you for a meeting. But they are not Vermonters.
I don’t even have words for what fuckingpettyshouldbeshotlittleRomanovs the congress is.
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I had read part one of the articles at Counterpunch on the money people, Wall St etc, involved with Obama camp. Think you linked to both earlier today or yesterday… There has been but a trickle of reporting on this. The White Liberal Mostly Male But Also Female press is just shaking, sweating, jelly for him.
Pritzker (forget her first name, something childish liek Penny or Patty), iirc, serves as his National Finance Co Chair iirc. and is one of the group of 300 who raised half of the money for his ‘04 run. Also iirc.
There si always a ton of scrambling insects hiding under the rocks when they use religion to sell a candidate. Or to sell anything. Messiah my ass.
The 1990s were the best decade in the last 50 years? For shizzle? I wonder for whom?
Would love to see Sheehan kick Pelosi out.
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Considering how the Obama camp has, in various tones of voice from whisper to more, indicated over and over that a significant number is ready to move to him.. he REALLY needs a bloc to move on one day.
Forget which political writer today said, but it just does not happen. The Super Dels seem fine with not ending it.
I assume her money dries up now, tho. Once the righties saw an entire industry can be built off Obama/related issues and that there are skeletons in his closet (the sort the righties yearn for) they are pretty happy with how things are turning out.
He and his seem to have really bought the Holy Redeemer slop however. at least as a vehicle over the rocky shoals and on to Power!
There is an op ed piece (today) from a regular contributor to USA Today (LOL a media arm that Obama likes and likes to use) stating, what took so long on the Wright story and for media to get over him and wake up. Apparently both Obama (who handed his old friend badly at the time of the disinivte, appallingly badly) and Axelrod etc were totally asleep at the helm. Really dumb not to know how our system works. Which they must know, esp Axelrod.
LOL except they love McC and may have to choose, they will remain in a sort of sexual ecstasy twilight sleep as long as possible.
42. For Wall St. traders
Moyers has Rose Ann DeMoro, executive director of CNA on this week.
So ironic the ‘progress’ of our having a “black” and “female” candidate, against the backdrop of such a hideous surge of racism and misogyny…been meaning to post this but not able to get to it, skimmed for it, and didn’t see it posted yet (warning, not for the squeamish):
Is There an Army Cover-Up of Rape and Murder of Women Soldiers?
’’ The Department of Defense statistics are alarming – one in three women who join the US military will be sexually assaulted or raped by men in the military…..
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But, now, even more alarming, are deaths of women soldiers in Iraq and in the United States following rape. The military has characterized each death of women who were first sexually assaulted as deaths from “noncombat related injuries,” and then added “suicide.” ….Specific US Army units and certain US military bases in Iraq have an inordinate number of women soldiers who have died of “noncombat related injuries,” with several identified as “suicides.”
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Eight women soldiers from Fort Hood, Texas, (six from the Fourth Infantry Division and two from the 1st Armored Cavalry Division) have died of “noncombat related injuries” on the same base, Camp Taji, and three were raped before their deaths. Two were raped immediately before their deaths and another raped prior to arriving in Iraq. Two military women have died of suspicious “noncombat related injuries” on Balad base, and one was raped before she died. Four deaths have been classified as “suicides.”
Nineteen-year-old US Army Pvt. Lavena Johnson was found dead on the military base in Balad, Iraq, in July, 2005, and her death characterized by the US Army to be suicide from a self-inflicted M-16 shot…..
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From the day their daughter’s body was returned to them, the parents had grave suspicions about the Army’s investigation into Lavena’s death and the characterization of her death as suicide…..
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Over the next two and one-half years, Dr. and Mrs. Johnson and their family and friends relentlessly, through the Freedom of Information Act and Congressional offices requested the Department of the Army for documents concerning Lavena’s death…..
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After two years of requesting documents, one set of papers provided by the Army included a photocopy copy of a CD. Wondering why the photocopy copy was in the documents, Dr. Johnson requested the CD itself. With help from his local Congressional representative, the US Army finally complied. When Dr. Johnson viewed the CD, he was shocked to see photographs taken by Army investigators of his daughter’s body as it lay where her body had been found, as well as other photographs of her disrobed body taken during the investigation.
The photographs revealed that Lavena, a small woman, barely five feet tall and weighing less than 100 pounds, had been struck in the face with a blunt instrument, perhaps a weapon stock. Her nose was broken and her teeth knocked backwards. One elbow was distended. The back of her clothes had debris on them indicating she had been dragged from one location to another. The photographs of her disrobed body showed bruises, scratch marks and teeth imprints on the upper part of her body. The right side of her back as well as her right hand had been burned, apparently from a flammable liquid poured on her and then lighted. The photographs of her genital area revealed massive bruising and lacerations. A corrosive liquid had been poured into her genital area, probably to destroy DNA evidence of sexual assault.
Despite the bruises, scratches, teeth imprints and burns on her body, Lavena was found completely dressed in the burning tent. There was a blood trail from outside a contractor’s tent to inside the tent. Apparently, she had been dressed after the attack and her attacker placed her body into the tent and set it on fire.…..
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……..shortly into the investigation, a decision apparently was made by higher officials that the investigators must stop the investigation into a homicide and to classify her death a suicide.
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There’s quite a bit more to the article, it’s pretty lengthy.
thanks for the alert Madman. I might have given myself a few weeks break from Moyers. Also he ramps up more and more in elections with Kathleen Hall Jamison and i enjoyed her last decade. Before she fell in lvoe with McC this decade.
I have not searched the news to see what is the underpinning of all the ads between CNA and SEIU (I’ll side with CNA) so will be happy to be spoon fed
Yeah the Wall St. traders made out like bandits. Rest of us? Not so much.
Oh, if you want to pass some popcorn: enjoy the Kosswhacks freak out at Mickey Z’s latest offering.
I tried reading up on the CNA/SEIU feud, and I don’t see anything other than Stern acting as a hatchet man for the Donks and making a power play for more members for his outfit. That’s all. Maybe I missed something.
5/9 SF Labor TV On Nurses, Organizing, The California Nurses Association CNA and the SEIU
thanks for that Arcturus.
I am going to give CNA and RdeMoro credit for going up against Arnold.
The flip side is Stern too cosy with CA Assembly, Pelosi and her CA crowd. And Arnold.
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I think both races are lousy decoupage. Something to prove we are advancing. I mean, inevitably we move somewhere, but not to the credit of some innate and nourishing marvelousness of either Ob or Hil.
My latest: Obama, Wright & Racism
48. That’s brutal.
Last year, when I posted about the sexual abuse scandal in the military on my blog, I had a visitor from the Pentagon who turned out to be a US military damage control spokespuppet trying to convince my readers that everything was being taken care of. I didn’t buy that, of course, and told him where to go and how to get there. Asshole.
I have not searched the news to see what is the underpinning of all the ads between CNA and SEIU (I’ll side with CNA) so will be happy to be spoon fed
Well, at least you’re not running ads like Atrios who then admitted he had absolutely no idea what was going on.
Robert Fisk: Lebanon descends into chaos as rival leaders order general strike
HA! The Torch is unassailed by protesters… it is 29K feet up, in the mountains…Mt Everest… I am surprised they kept the damned thing lit, it looked to be blowing snow and ice and whatever else.
markos moulitsas at it again earlier today.
that jerk has zero concern about “what’s at stake” for women.
really, it is no more than the propaganda they use to keep women on the reservation.
The biggest lies. The war, health care… it sold well enough on the Dem side of the aisle. How it plays from here on out, and really it is just an exercise in observing the spigot and the pabulum … the Dems intend to do nothing, at all, about anything.
A classic – of a sort. Stoller dons his pre presidential knee pads. The lines are deathless, keeper, as they say:
Get ready for this one… remember these are the people who mishandled a prickle from the get go then spent weeks stumbling, and, in my reading back, have written the R ads about wright FOR THEM (and that is not even discussing Rezko)… but hold on, they be gods from the Dem Olympus:
Wait… there is more:
I have laughed so hard tears are coming… get this one:
What can one say? It is all too soviet for my taste.
More:
BTW… and I merely credit the Baby Stoller as I have no idea where he got these names.. but he mentions that while regrettable and so old school that nevertheless Obama most likely will make Daschle his CoS and Artur Davis, a DLC (for real, most of last year his pic was part of their banner) CBC twit out of AL, his AG.
We are so blessed with our Jesus.
As I say, I have lived under a lot of shits, like everyone else. What gibberish. What slobber. Plus they consider McC a ”weak candidate”.
Not if you don’t take him down.
[sorry for the length... the back pages of WP are so slow, I did not bother to open the post up top]
hmm reading the thread to the toddler version of a manifesto, I see someone lauds a Booman post called (swallow now) Understanding Victory.
Think I will have a cup of coffee before I read that slop.
It seems as if we’ve just handed control of the U.S. over from a small group of children (Bush and his cronies) to a Children’s Crusade.
I suppose we should have seen this coming.
LOL
#60:
Memo From Kos:
Dear Sluts, Tramps & Whores
Abortion is horrible. Vote Obama or else.
Kisses,
Your Lord & Master
Worse, her nomination could depress the Democratic vote if the new Obama voters believe he was cheated out of the nomination.
I wonder how many sweater-clad old ladies in Michigan and Pennsylvania are going to drag themselves in for Obama? Oh, I forgot, they’re nonpersons.
McCain could possibly win this thing in the swing states just by doing nursing home and VA hospital tours. I hope the Children of Obama don’t believe they have the “movement” market sewn up… this election could wind up looking like a remake of The Goonies vs. Cocoon.
The Movement would tarnish its religious symbology if it admitted that without Clinton as the object of hatred its a whole new ball game.
I thought [and still think] all three candidates had glaring vulnerabilities. Big ones. But watching Obama campaign was instructive these past months. He had a few rough weeks (that is all it is, Wright via ABC surfaced March 13) and he and his personality went into reverse, literally. He did things the last weekend of campaigning that he should have been doing all along. One of which was his first assisted living center since Iowa… LOL.
But having won now, that will all go by the wayside. Big air war, extreme distance again from media. Meet and greet mostly at closed events, otherwise with socially acceptable peers.
My guess is, like too many Dems have done, he assumes he can ace McC in the debates. All the McC people have to do is make sure he has a couple, not even 6 or 7, hard weeks before a debate.
Yeah McC a very stiff, old, crazy, strange candidate could indeed win.
All McCain has to do is pick Huckabee as VP (the logical choice) and not only will his base be fired up, but a lot of older Dems won’t think he’s so bad. Huckabee wasn’t viable as a presidential candidate, but as VP candidate he’ll perhaps draw away a lot of fire and allow McCain to dodder onward magisterially (without erupting into his trademark temper).
Not to mention, Huckabee was actually a governor, which might give people confidence. How in God’s name did we wind up with three senators (four, if you count Edwards) as leading contenders in a year like this?
Obama had better pick a governor as VP, that is for damn sure. Richardson, probably.
Further thought, before I forget it…
This whole primary is starting to remind me of the big dance in Grease. The whole sequence. With Howard Dean in the Eve Arden role, and Obama as Danny and the Netroots as Sandy. And we all know how that dance ended up.
How looooow can you go…
In the previous comment thread, liberalcatnip noted that Duncan Black was blissfully unaware that his site was running dueling adverts for the SEIU and CNA, and when informed of this, rather charmingly noted that he was completely clueless as to why these organizations were slagging each other. DB certainly does seem to be spending a lot of time in the ozone layer these days. His site has long consisted of FP posts that merely quote work done by other people, with a few words from him along the lines of “Look what I found [quoted material] isn’t that neat?” Now we’re getting wordier posts that incidate a mind that’s aimlessly wandering as his fingers type. Here’s two recent posts FP items:
The threads for those posts contain close to 800 comments, more or less equally split between the two.
Sooner or later, someone’s going to realize that the sort of person who would care to comment on topics such as that aren’t really the sort of people you want to bother advertising to. Kind of like how the old, awful NY Daily Mirror went out of business in spite of the fact that it sold 800,000 copies a day. Advertisers believed (rightly) that the sort of people who’d read a paper that wretched had no money to spend on anything else. As the owner of one of NY’s biggest department stores said to Rupert Murdoch when asked why he didn’t advertise in the NY Post, “your readers are our shoplifters.”
Comment in moderation or spam.
LOL, one of our local congressmen Vito Fonsella, a big conservative and Bush lackey from Staten Island was arrested last week for DUI in the DC suburbs, having had twice the legal limit. He told the police he was visiting his sick daughter and then changed his story to say he was on his way to see friends.
Today he owned up, he has a 3 year old love child in DC with his mistress and a wife and 3 kids back in Staten Island. His mistress picked him up from jail. He’s up for reelection in November thankfully (or not as the case may be).
Chris Floyd is just about the only person paying attention to the obscene war we are fighting by proxy in Somalia:
I don’t know if he was thinking of Kosolini and his cult members when he wrote that last sentence, but it’s as perfect a description of their mindset as you’ll ever find. No wonder they banned him.
In other news:
It seems we are about to launch yet one more effort against the Sadrists in Sadr City, and the Iraqi Army (such as it is) has warned residents to leave.
And it appears Mark Penn based his Billary For President strategy on the notion that Dem primaries are winner take all. They haven’t been for a very long time.
Was Billary channeling George Wallace, circa 1970 here?
I refer to the late Alabama governor’s run for the statehouse in 1970, when he said his opponent had an unfair advantage due to the “block vote.” That’s not a typo, he never explicitly mentioned racial matters that year, just said he was disadvantaged due to the large “block” vote that was bound to go against him in spite of the fact that he was such a great guy. Just what sort of a “block” this was he never actually said. Have to admit this was awfully clever, even rather witty. It worked too. He’d been trailing his opponent (who was the incumbent who’d become governor when Wallace’s wife had died in early 1968), this turned around enough voters to win him another term.
Well, as many posters to this site have previously noted, you don’t get anywhere in Southern politics without being able to do this sort of thing in such a way as to be able to plausibly deny you aren’t appealing to racist sentiments. Even Jimmy Carter did it. When he ran for governor of Georgia in 1970, his campaign gave wide distribution to a flyer that showed his opponent being doused with champagne by a couple of black members of the Atlanta Hawks basketball team after he’d stopped by to congratulate them on making the playoffs.
JJB: …Sooner or later, someone’s going to realize that the sort of person who would care to comment on topics such as that aren’t really the sort of people you want to bother advertising to…
Why doesn’t he just do the logical thing and convert the site officially into a dating service. Then he can hire Elise G. Harding and her merry band of jigglers ‘n gigglers over to help out with the fashion page and stuff.
At first glance, I thought there were going to be 800 contesting comments about the Union fracas. I deserve to be roundly scolded for my remaining vestiges of naivete. [blush]
ms_x, no. 76,
Why doesn’t he just do the logical thing and convert the site officially into a dating service.
Though a very logical thing to do, at this point it would require much more disciplined effort than DB is capable of exerting. There’s an old Mose Allison song that goes “your mind’s on vacation and your mouth’s working overtime,” that suits Duncan to a “T” these days.
Well, the relationship between party and blogger (or blog ruler and blog vassals) is most reminiscent of another Allison song, “You Can Count On Me To Do My Part.”
I don’t intend to turn this into an All-Duncan, All-Day thread, but no sooner do I accuse him of being hopelessly lazy and unfocused to the point of incomprehensibility than he posts the following:
You blog about politics for a living, DB. It’s apparently your main, perhaps sole, source of revenue. How difficult is it to read a couple of stories and see that Congresscritter Vito claimed he was on his way to deal with a family emergency (i.e., going to pick up a sick daughter) when the cops busted him? In fact, he’d been thrown out of the bar where he’d been drinking, and ran a red light.
Though I think we can all agree with Duncan’s eloquent remark that “really driving drunk is a bad thing to do,” and rest assured that he never does so after a Drinking Liberally event.
As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article “that found how Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again”
oh, ugh. This primary makes me want to just jump into the shower and never come out.
It’s Not a Compound!
(It’s their ranch, and it’s their home…)
speaking of race.. I linked a couple of days ago to a post by Skeptical Brotha (he’s over in the blogroll if anyone wants to read the entry, it’s the May 6 one) who is 1 black, 2 lives in a small NC town… and his post on Bill campaigning thru NC is on target.
However along the way he mentioned something that I had not known about Jimmie Carter… apparently while he was in the WH the pastor of his small Plains Baptist church tried to de segregate the church. And the pastor was removed. I did not goggle around to get details… but I cannot believe that had Jimmie or Miss Lillian intervened that it would have meant nothing. In such a tiny town, the sitting president and his mother could not intervene and make sure the pastor was kept? And oddly I just heard Jimmie on with Tavis last night about his book and he mentioned that “all our neighbors were black”.
On the other hand in terms of things said in this run… Obama’s fictions and bromides on race on effing tedious. The top note probably was his “90% of the way there.”
I’ll say again I am happy to be onto the GE, in some form … and he should go all the way [live with Jesus!]… but putting that card board cut out in the WH is the end of being able to argue there is institutionalised racism, to a desperate and horrible degree, in this country. White people will shut down any try at it, from here forward. And any idea, however slight, at at least some form of corporate reparations is over. Forever.
BTW, will hunt for it… but Ishmeal Read, who called Bill the black presdient bfore Morrison did – and for very different reasons – had a good post delineating the reasoning he took… it’s at Counterpunch will pull it up.
“When you disagree with Obama, you are saying to these people ‘your favorite band sucks’.”
Stoller doesn’t even know how much he’s nailed the Obamatons and the shallow level of their thought process.
What if they’re favorite band is Menudo?
You know cad, when I first read some of these people, like Stoller Bowers etc., at Dkos in 2003 I had assume they were in their very early 20s, at the latest. Imagine my shock to find out they were all round the bend mid to late 30s.,
MCat, no. 82,
I don’t remember anything about a pastor being dismissed. However, during the 1976 campaign, a black person (not a Plains resident, IIRC) tried to become of member of the church in Plains to which Carter belonged, and it emerged that not only did the church’s by-laws specifically deny membership to African-Americans, the language of the relevant clause clause had originally used the N-word (although it may have been changed to “Negro” at some point). As I recall, Carter lobbied very hard to have the clause dropped, which the Church very grudgingly agreed to do. The person in question was not made a member, however. It was a rather bizarre incident that was pretty much forgotten as soon as it happened. I remember that Alexander Cockburn, who then wrote a press criticism column for the Village Voice, was the only person to note that the MSM was ignoring the fact that Plains was obviously a highly racist area. There was some talk to the effect that the person who’d forced this issue had been put up by the GOP, but I don’t think this was ever proven.
Another rather obvious (and ignored) point is that while it’s true the Carters had numerous black neighbors, they were all the decendents of sharecroppers and (most likely) slaves who’d worked the Carter’s land for generations.
TPM reporting that Cyndeeeee refuses to ever release her tax returns, even if she ends up First Lady.
Another rather obvious (and ignored) point is that while it’s true the Carters had numerous black neighbors, they were all the decendents of sharecroppers and (most likely) slaves who’d worked the Carter’s land for generations.
oh yeah I took that as a given. I grew up spending summers in Georgia. Macon to be precise. And Milledgeville. Both hearts of the Old South, Deep South South, however one views it.
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well no one ws ever going to get much from her beyond what TH-K finally agreed to, the first two sheets of her 1040 for the two previous years (as I recall).
LOL If it is true, and I assume it is, that Cyndi and McC basically live apart, that she moved sometime ago (not just due to the stroke) to a place near S Diego with Bridgette… he’s lucky she puts in day after day on the road. She will never bother…
And really, tax returns, which should be released as a requiremnt of running – for all years you served at the public trough,, have been a bouncing ball in this messy run.
I say we try for the long promised JSM MEDICAL records… LOL.
84. I keep having a nightmare that someday, Bowers is going to drift back to his hometown (MY town) and start blogging about local politics. I wake up screaming.
NYCO, he’ll probably end up here at Bloooooooo Boregon. He’ll fit right in.
Since I’ve helped hijack this thread, maybe somebody should send Carter an mp.3 of Allison’s “Variations on Dixie.” Allison is from Tippo, MI but never lived full-time in the South again after his time in the Army. When he sings “In Dixieland I played my hand/Came to understand in Dixie…” there’s a whole lot hanging in the air before he moves on to the next verse.
ugh. We can expect more of this mess of an article on the State of Racism Today… in The Economist. Relying on John McWhorter .. They somehow missed pertinent commentary from Ward Connerly, god knows how.
What a mess.
here,
or alternatively:
y mas:
The Crazy Rev. Wright
the end of the last:
yup… that is the Counterpunch article.. thanks for fishing it (and the other links as well) up Arcturus…
and I remember /loved this bit:
on the topic of the CNA-SEIU thing, i wrote a post about a potential proxy war in the 8th AD primary. if you check the comments, you’ll notice that the guy who responds may very well be the CEO of kaiser.
interesting stuff.
wu ming…
thanks for posting that. it certainly seems that lawrence, for whatever reason, is out to trash Yamada.
I hope he stops back and it was not a drive by slash and burn. he should answer you………….
i assume he’s not just some random guy, just by the fact that he knew the stuff he was saying, but it would be a riot if he turned out to be that lawrence. i hope he responds too, if just because that could tease out a more interesting story than just me musing on endorsements.
if the CNA is quietly planning on using primaries to nudge the dems towards passing kuehl’s bill in a non-symbolic sense, that is very heartening. long since past time for them to start making factional power plays, IMO. that’s what safe seats are for, after all.
well, wu ming, I hope you’re right about what those endorsements mean on single-payer. Is Cabaldon the West Sac mayor tied by the Justic Reform Coalition to the funky gang-injunction for the benefit of his developer buddies?
Do you know if Sal Rosselli is still head of UHW, or has he been forced out yet? the gist of the difference (between CNA & SEIU, as wella s UHW & the SEIU leadership), as I get it, is between the top-down corporate-accomodationist model & a worker-empowered grass-roots one — tho iirc (& may be waaay off-base), hasn’t there also been friction between UHW/Rosselli & CNA? one complicating/confusing factor, for me, was that UHW reached out to a wider range of health care workers (Roseselli a big home care organizer, I believe) than CNA’s narrower base of strictly nurses
(my plezha, MC – there’s an I Reed folder on the HD here – did you read his The Irish Black Thing? I didn’t know Bob Callahan had died. The publishing work that he & Eilleen O’Malley Callahan did under the Turtle Island imprint – & the multi-kulti vision it embodied – was, as they say, a highly shaping influence on my young mind . . .
let me take a look Arcturus… cannot remember right now if I have read it or not. I almost always agree with Ishmael… very rarely disagree. He did a wonderful long long long piece in C’punch following the race baiting of the SC primary, this go round.
BTW, just a reminder that Madman posted yesterday that Rose De Moro of CNA will be on with Moyers this Friday…
the Chron’s obit on Bob C – I didn’t know he’d once been a speech-writer for RFK
I had assume they were in their very early 20s, at the latest. Imagine my shock to find out they were all round the bend mid to late 30s.,
30-something is the new 12 with those guys.
Somebody at LJ just informed me that Pelosi’s (and Clinton II’s and Obama’s) stance against impeaching Bush) is not “real relevant” after I made my customary rude burping noise in the middle of the latest rah-rah-Obama thread.
This is the same board where somebody thought that whining “I have my own problems” was a legitimate response to my complaint that none of the fuckers running under the blue banner can talk ceasefire.
As I said, Bowers will fit right in when he arrives. >:
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cabaldon is the very same west sac mayor who did the BS gang injunction thing. along with the packing of the west sac democratic club with 700 new people (often latino or elderly voters, without their permission) to try and game the dem convention and get cabaldon the party endorsement for the primary, it’s why i’m not voting for him.
he’s got the party establishment firmly behind him (it’s “his turn”), but west sac’s not a big city relative to davis, vacaville or fairfield, so it’s not clear if he’ll coast through the primary or whether yamada can pull off an upset. whoever wins the primary wins the general, tho; it’s a pretty safe district, and getting more safe all the time.
Also, did I tell you all this one: A political blogger I know (no names please) has a separate blog where they talk about their creative work. They have a picture taken in their living room of an award they won, and next to it is an old Nader-LaDuke campaign button from 2000. So they post some info about a new project they’re doing in both blogs, but in the “creative” blog they have the button AIRBRUSHED out because (as they write on their political blog) “I don’t want to get into a political discussion there.
I look at this and think to myself, Hey, why not just throw out the fucking button or put it in the damn attic, if it’s such a threat to your precious career. Naturally I didn’t write that.
It must be the pending arrival of Summer, but I sense my semi-annual SMBIVA post beginning to take form.
>: Free macaroons to whomever devises the winning title.
Some clippings from California Greening about McKinney.
she’s in the lead now for the green nomination, right? the north coast has another antiwar candidate running in the democratic primary for the first congressional district, name of mitch clogg. along with sheehan’s challenge of pelosi, there’s some discontent simmering under the surface around here.
long, but worth the time:
Laura Carlson, The Militarization of Mexican Society: A Primer on Plan Mexico:
New site: We Op-Ed. They’ve invited a select group of bloggers to join (including me – just checking to see if they know I’m Canadian before they sign me up) and hope to have “civilized discourse”. I guess that means I’m civilized? lol
104. looks like 2 wings of the ’stablishment quiblling over which gets dipped in the sauce. ’bout as lovely as our (Sac’s) mayoral race. ick.
Free macaroons to whomever devises the winning title.
What’s the topic, ms x? I’m a friend of the macaroons.
yawhoops, here’s Laura C on Plan Mexico
poetry in the House (via TO), & I’m out:
Let the games begin. Where’s our special olympic-length campaign torch?
Schadenfraude: Olmert faces new corruption probe
And the most important part:
Obama plans to declare victory May 20. Red white & blue popcorn!
Protest Camps Against American Military Bases in Japan and Italy
A Picture Worth A Thousand Words
Oh, and I’m sure Mr. Downie and his bosses feel it’s “safe” now and won’t hurt circulation numbers.
LOL
Yup, racism is no longer an issue in this country. Keep repeating that, and don’t “rush to judgement” based on a video.
Unless, of course, that video shows a black man, then rush to all the judgements you want.
great comments about the NYC police re: the Bell verdict.
I know I shouldn’t laugh, but I did.
btw, just today caught some early in the day local TV ads for someone else running against Pelosi. An older woman… I would say spry 60s… the ad is rather inventive. She uses a rubber chicken as a caraicature of Pelosi. “rubber spine, hey! that is JUST like Pelosi.” “And why is she such a chicken about impeachment?”
And so on. She narrates them herself. Has a website which I did not got to today. Shirley Golub… and the site is Shirley08.com
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congrats! catnip on being asked to join the site. Will go check it out and add it to the blogroll…………………
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is that the film from Phildelphia?
I noticed in the aftermath… yesterday I guess that they have the old Chief of Police from The Hill in DC, forget his name. think it was Ramsay.
Yup, it was Philly.
LOL While I was at Counterpunch I landed on this thwack! thwack! thwack! at Obama for his Big Race Speech
119. RFK would have been right on that.
Obama? Well, not so much.
Washington’s Great “No Inflation” Hoax
Sums it up:
Ben Smith has an update on the elderly nuns denied voting in Indiana He also links to Tumulty at TIME wo reports on the same thing with nuns in MO… He says at the top it will put an end to further GOP efforts on this matter. Why would it? It SHOULD, but I could see them just pushing on.
catnip:
…What’s the topic, ms x? I’m a friend of the macaroons.
Wait ! I need a TOPIC ?!?!
Oh, okay. I thought it would be about the airbrushed Nader pin, along with some rants about these annoying little “skin-deep” liberals that I’ve groused about here before.
Oh, and maybe some fashion stuff and a bunch of blather about my sex life.I have a suggested title:
“Lefty Value$ Voter$”
(snif !) Dude, that’s beautiful. Do you like chianti ?
[proffers glass, just in case.]
yes, especially with fava beans!
That Ben Smith link is a gem:
Somehow, I don’t think she was concerned about the poor and minorities, given the “this might seem like a good idea” comment, but I am a cynical atheist with little or no patience for religious nuts.
hey whatever floats Sister Sandy’s pure white boat. LOL.
It’s like Chula Vista (right on the border) having 4 abortion clinics. I certainly suspect that CA’s strong support for abortion has more than a whiff and a dash and soupcon of racism in it. And of course CV picks up business from across the border.
However we get there………………………………………. and they say I am not pragmatic…
It must be Thursday. Time for me to send another “anonymous” request for Madman’s bannination. :p
and I thought you LUVVVV’D me!
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…… but putting that card board cut out in the WH is the end of being able to argue there is institutionalised racism, to a desperate and horrible degree, in this country. White people will shut down any try at it, from here forward.
Ditto for women’s rights if Hillary ends up partnering with him, which I still believe was the deliberate steam vent the dems pawned off on us, a tawdry crackerjack prize….certainly won’t be voting for McCain though….may not even vote….it all seems absolutely useless………
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Interesting the way this piece of not really so subtle propaganda reads,
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN08511697>US says 5-10 pct of Guantanamo inmates fight again
Instead of making the obvious correlation that at least 90 to 95% of the released detainees were possibly innocent, and shouldn’t have been detained in the first place (and that may be generous, since if not terrorists before detainment, they likely suffered enough torture to not only be terrorists, but actually insane) they of course look to the five to ten percent they claim “returned to terrorism.”
Who knows, maybe none of them returned to take up arms, there is no more credibility for the sea of lies and deception that we’re drowning in….
sorry, correct link: US says 5-10 pct of Guantanamo inmates fight again
oh I think he and she are at the same spot for wimmens rights. Pander to the right, to the religious yahoos… and sell out women.
If I hear one more time his gibberish that women can choose after they consult with their family, husbnd, minister, etc., I will scream. Afer all some religioius whack job contacted him and he changed the language at his site. He has used that in speeches to show how open he is. Yes TO THE RIGHT.
And her “rare, and I do mean rare” just makes me think of a baby on barbq spit..
if they’d thrown me in that hell hole, even if i’d just been some unlucky goatherd before i went in, you’d damn right better bet i’d be pretty pissed at the US after i got out.
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It’s like Chula Vista (right on the border) having 4 abortion clinics. I certainly suspect that CA’s strong support for abortion has more than a whiff and a dash and soupcon of racism in it. And of course CV picks up business from across the border.
Medical tourism in reverse. Some time last year I read that 20% of the patients in San Diego clinics were residents of Mexico who crossed the border to obtain legal (otherwise known as safe) abortion care.
Gushing and googly-eyes.
Ummm…and he’s a hero because…?
new thread… and a pic…
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