dog days 10 July 2008
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems.trackback
The talking heads, the screamers, the gibberish, the leaders who are not leaders – wore her out… she and her gams have flaked out!
The Hill has an interesting report on Dems’ (that would be the vaunted 110th, if you liked the 110th, etc.) election year doings. See that bath water going by? Laugh now and get out of the way!, because here comes the BABY…. [snicker]
Dems follow Obama down centrist path
By Alexander Bolton
Posted: 07/09/08 07:53 PM [ET]House and Senate Democrats are taking a centrist path this election-year summer, following the lead of Barack Obama, who has increased his coordination with congressional leaders.
Democrats have decided to focus on economic and security issues designed to appeal to a wide range of voters, especially independents who are concerned about soaring gas prices and the slumping stock and housing markets.
…The centrist strategy reflects the thinking of Obama, the Illinois senator who has tacked toward the middle of the political spectrum since clinching the Democratic nomination in early June.
The most prominent example is an overhaul of the nation’s intelligence surveillance laws that Senate Democrats passed Wednesday with Obama’s support. Many liberals staunchly oppose the bill, which would grant legal immunity to telecommunications companies that shared customers’ private data with intelligence authorities.
This is an excellent amusement, so let’s have more from The HIll:
As they begin to march in lockstep with Obama, Democrats have eschewed tactics designed to rev up their political base for the fall election. Specifically, they have jettisoned the strategy favored by Republicans in recent election years of scheduling highly political votes during the summer in order to energize base voters.
In the summer before the 2006 elections, the Republican majority voted on a long-shot proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution to prohibit flag burning. They also voted on legislation to ban “fetal farming” and to protect gun owners during national emergencies, as well as proposals to stem the flow of immigration from Mexico — all initiatives popular with their conservative base.
“Our base is just fine,” said Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), who said Democrats are concentrating instead on bills with broad appeal among Democrats, independents and centrist Republicans.
That old time Democratic religion, don’t upset Papa Republican — or the Daley bros, is there a difference?… [snicker snicker].
Oh tell me these really are their plans… If they are, I will laugh as hard as I did over moiv comments and links on the HIgh Holy Catholic Holy Wafer Blasphemous Kidnapping.
The staffer said Democratic leaders have little choice because Obama has adopted a centrist course in recent weeks.
In addition to throwing his support behind the compromise intelligence bill, Obama has spoken out on the importance of personal responsibility and family values and emphasized his patriotism, all themes that Republicans tend to sound during election years. Obama has also called for federal assistance to faith-based social programs and recalibrated his rhetoric on the Iraq war.
Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) said the congressional agenda reflects Obama’s pragmatic approach. [Why couldn't Obama buds deliver ND a sweep of primaries for him, there at the end? hmmm? --- Mcat]
“These are all addressing practical problems, which is very much his style,” said Conrad, citing a bill designed to reduce home foreclosures, the so-called Medicare payment fix, extended tax incentives for energy production and the intelligence overhaul.
Durbin said that Senate leaders are talking to Obama about his policy priorities, specifically about his energy policy proposals.
Durbin added that Democratic leaders and Obama are beginning to feel that they “can speak with one voice as a party about our agenda for November.”
Translation: we are mush, what’s to dislike? Vote for us!, we. aren’t. even. poodles. any. more…
The Economist weighs in…. They say, go right young black man, go right! I am sure he will…
I’ll say again of Invesco Field… he should wear a sports jersey that reads, “MLK+45=Dreams for Sale”.
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obama won north dakota. it was south dakota that didn’t break his way as expected. he’s currently polling even with mccain in ND, but not in SD, for whatever reason. no idea what distinguishes the two state electorates.
oh, and the air is positively apocalyptic today. looks like mordor.
You know, I can keep N and S Carolina straight but not the Dakotas.
I had it in my brain that if Daschle cannot win SD/one of the Dakotas for Ob, then what can he do. I say they should congeal. have more EV for the favored or unfavored son.
LOL
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there are more fires. I woke around 11:30 am in terrible shape….. and I can tell as Mendocino explodes and Butte refires… that Big Sur will [mostly] be left to burn. Tassajara Zen Center evacuated last night. It is iwthin a mile.
NYCO from the previous thread:
Agree on the “imperialism”, vis a vis Obama,… part of the problem, I think, is that it is very widespread. Use of imperial language. I hung in thru a series of panels that The News Hour ran in the primaries… panels of 12, 5 regional, then a selection of 12 from the orgiinal 5 panels was brought to DC for a final set of conversations. And I was struck over and over by the imperial language. I would say only 1 really oppsoed war, 3 could be said to be agaisnt Iraq War and the remaining 9 were troubled but largely indifferent, in the final analysis.
Fully 9 of them, IMO, would be on board for another invasion or extended air war, Africa, Iran, elsewhere, depending on how you ran the propaganda.
math is off. oh well……………………..
I never understood why Jesus had to taste like styrofoam.
Because he’s an artificial thing created by man?
So, when in October will Obama suddenly fire his campaign manager and start a frantic fake-leftish populist campaign, a la Gore in 2000?
I’m predicting about October 19th when the poll numbers look really bad and Nader, Barr & McKinney are all doing better than they are “supposed” to.
“Our base is just fine,” said Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), who said Democrats are concentrating instead on bills with broad appeal among Democrats, independents and centrist Republicans.
Yup, good luck with that Dick.
Bob Geldof in the Telegraph:
it’s like a big movie opening, that fizzles. Democrats, too many of them, are sure they will win. Open discussions of landslide.
enh.
Seabiscuit tries again (I hope that link works … it should pop open a video).
If it doesn’t it, the link is up at c-span.org on the front page, for now anyway.
Rosa Clemente to be McKinney’s running mate.
Well, why not ? Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Pick a big name and everyone whines about “egos.” Pick a “nobody” and everyone whines because… they don’t like nobodies. [snerk]
I still think Obama should tap Holy Joe again. Rub their noses in it, Golden Man. They seem to get off on that endlessly. :p
Veterans for Peace in a dramatic confrontation with Chairman John Conyers over his indecision on impeachment.
Really good statement in this by Kokesh from VfP.
Conyers is so damned whiney and put out by the whole thing. Pathetic, as he’s been for a while.
Also re: McKinney, a barrel of laughs at IPR, on a number of levels.
A step up from some of the peanut galleries you can find elsewhere, for what it’s worth.
Don’t mind me. I’m kind of starved for laughs this week.
oh, the anti-semitism thing … that didn’t take long. Where were the jokes about her hair?
Give it another hour, Madman.
Shocking Police Behavior
oops, messed up the blockquote. Sorry.
Commentary by Mumia Abu Jamal on Ralph Nader
Too too funny. Previously, everything was ‘’strategic” and “smart” or “brilliant”…, but for gay marriage, where Obama was “a coward”.
So, if Sully says Obama, and the camp and whoever agrees to interviews, is getting ”cocky”, does that now make it so?
Because this is not a new charge.
POPCORN FUTURES.
The Independent’s top story: Brown’s African misadventure
You know I have to say it: Heckuva job, Brownie!
23 human rights activists from So Africa toured The Territories, WB, GAZA, the wall, etc., in Israel.
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Africom here we come!
So, Conyers goes to HuffPo to bitch about Rove … some pretty disgusted pushback in the thread:
24. Maybe next he’ll invade Zimbabwe. Oops. No oil there. What was I thinking?
My refrain:
If you liked the 110th, you’ll love what’s coming.
I saw Reid get all weepy over “Fake Liberal Lion” Kennedy strugglign back to vote, with cancer.
That does sum it up.
Couldn’t rouse himself to vote against FISA, though, just a politically easy bill to pay Dr’s medicare/aid bills what they were being paid before you caved earlier to the Republicans.
Pathetic, the lot of them.
hmmm the reason we are suddenly getting Federal help, via Chertoff, for the fires… dox have been released that we are criticially understaffed, and have been. What a shock… will hunt up the report.
San Jose Mercury News
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You know why? I caught a report about a week a go that he is readying himself to be at the center of the coming battle for …………………. BZZT!
HEALTH CARE.
LOL And we still will not have it. Never will.
oh and! The really big cuts to Medicaid (and it affected Medi-Cal as well) were several years ago. I happened to know as a friend of mine who was at least able to do the drill to get her mother re settled, spent days on the phone finding a new dr. Right down the Peninsula. Nowhere off the grid.
HEALTH CARE. And we still will not have it. Never will.
I’m a bit slow, sometimes. You know what? I think you’re right. Especially about the never will.
It’s just too much against dogma.
Right, we will only have a constantly gutted Medicare, strapped resources for state health plans… and MedicAid which is and always will be WELFARE.
It needs to be a large umbrella single payer, with simple easy well regulated side bar extras. Similar to the countries that are running HC well.
I just read thru obama’s speech (as prepared, as CNN, at least, did not cover it) to women on economic issues, in Fairfax VA, today…. It is just an old time Dem slobber list of giveaways. That is what most all of his speeches to the hapless are… over and over again.
Giveaways that will never happen, and lies, imo.
Don’t know how I missed this when I read that Independent article:
I kid you not.
Did his parents laugh when they named him?
I would guess so………………………
Nice pushback to Conyers. He deserves it. I second those emotions.
Re Lord O, where the hell did he get that southern accent? The cadence seems contrived. It is hard to listen to – the chopped sentences, that clipped upswing of the voice, again and again, like clockwork. Clockwork Obama.
It bugs the hell out of me: As in, “John McCain has it wrong! / on the ehcahnamah!” (Economy)
chopped and clipped…
The mock of Obama on SNL is cruel, but not inaccurate.
I have a little book on “How to Speak Southern” here somewhere. I guess I’ll have to whip it out so I (ah) can keep up.
36. Can you imagine?
What’s your name?
Jock Stirrup.
I’m sorry. Jock Strap? (snicker)
Stirrup, damnit, Stirrup!
And your middle name?
Halsley. [I made that up. Creative license, you know. -catnip]
Umm…did you say Ballsy?
(I see a Monty Python script just waiting to be written.)
what we will get is some fake “universal” healthcare that lines the insurance companies even more, like the fucking prescription drug plan.
no. 9,
While Mr. Geldof’s stand for civil liberties is admirable, a little knowledge of the history of his native country (which he seems to have forgotten is Ireland, not the UK) will show that for hundreds of millions of people all around the world the last few centuries, “what is the point of Britain?” has nothing to do either with liberty or justice.
Record High!
147 a barrel….
Bow down to your favored solution.
BTW, the T Boone Pickens commercial has started to run locally here.
ObamaRama releases names of new bundlers.
Right off, I see Anna Wintour, Valerie Jarrett, Federico Pena – and the CT Lamonts..
The Page has some of the nitty gritty from the WSJ article [blocked/sub] on June fundraising…
US ‘killed 47 Afghan civilians’
Not to worry. Obamalama is promising a bigger, better, new and improved Afghanistan war if he’s elected. (cough cough)
Speaking of health insurance coverage…
hmm Tapper on the June fundraiser underwhelm:
Common enough error, his money people thought they had one of the classic “trees that grow forever”.
waaaaaa waaaaaa
Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:
DOW FALLS BELOW 11,000 FOR THE FIRST TIME IN TWO YEARS
#47:
[hurl]
Trying to switch insurers myself, at the moment. Though not for that particular reason. Just for all the other ones. >:
Chris Hedges in the LAT on new FISA, he’s joined the ACLU suit
As of 12:58 PM EDT, the Dow is below 11,000 for the first time in a long time. Losses for the day stand at just over 240.
50. That really has to be the most absolutely clueless moment of this campaign. Typical politician though, as they all are. If they’re not justifying some violation of basic human/civil rights (a la Obama and FISA), they’re just shilling for whatever lobby kept them elected all of these years by voting blindly a la party/money line. Disgusting.
I think the so-called “left” is pretty much dead in America thanks to Obama and the so-called “progressives” who support him.
WTF does Obama need $100 million for anyway? I thought this was supposed to be as easy ride for the Dems considering all that the Repubs have done the past 8 years (with their stamp of approval, of course). That’s why centrism doesn’t work. The 2 candidates are barely indistinguishable. But I guess that’s what the Dems consider to be a winning strategy. (?!) Yeah. Good luck with that.
I saw (or at least my tai-tai saw and told me) the future of health care in the United States and it is contemporary China.
Pay before you get in and when the money runs out, it’s the streets buddy, buddesse or buddito.
The revolution will come, one day, but it won’t happen here first. And I will be in the “timeless place” when it does.
Meet the Press: McCain adviser Fiorina, Sen. McCaskill, former McCain adviser Mike Murphy
This Week: Schwarzenegger
Face the Nation: Sens. Levin, Lugar, Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Meridor
Fox News Sunday: T. Boone Pickens
Late Edition: Sens. Kyle, Dodd, Govs. Sanford, Napolitano, McCain econ. adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer, Obama econ. adviser Jason Furman, Iraqi National Security adviser al-Rubaie, State of Public Diplomacy Undersecretary Glassman
Fareed Zakaria GPS: Obama
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the understaffed, underfunded, undermanned firefighting setup in state will become even more evident when socal starts to burn, later on this summer. right now, nearly all the fire is in nor cal, and next to noting in the northwest, so we’re getting help from all over. add in the santa anas, and it’ll be some pretty revealing triage decisions.
whose fires matter more? watch the Rs play region against region, as if underfunding has nothing to do with it.
a report a couple weeks ago (i don’t have the link) suggested that the feds intend to use this to privatize federal firefighting. another growth industry for the mercenaries, no doubt.
I don’t get to read SMBIVA much, but this got me laughing my head off… so true.
Citing Iraq War, Renowned Attorney Vincent Bugliosi Seeks “The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder”
Thought I’d provide a more respectful interview of Vincent Bugliosi making the case that should be made -criminal prosecution of Bush – than the treatment he got on Morning Joe today.
His mistake was that A) he told the truth about our sitting president’s war crimes, which polite company (ie, the sack o shite corporate media) doesnt want to acknowledge, and B) that although his points on the issue of trying Bush for war crimes are spot on and clearly presented, his eccentric nature, more pronounced as he ages, allows the corporate war enablers to mock and marginalize him. (He kept calling Joe “Mike” — Barnacle — and kept talking after his bit was over – they let the camera pan over to him, sans sound, still holding up a paper and holding forth – much to their delight.)
wu ming…
very true… anyone who thinks it is bad now, should merely wait…………………….
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NYCO
LOL
I see in comments that owen paine penned this slang:
the dyed in the wool hi edified demlib-ling
demlib-ling. VERY good!
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NYCee
I hung in thru two KGO radio interviews with Bugliosi, a few weeks ago now… in one he was invited for the hour, and, as he became agitated was allowed more than the hour. And the interviewer, one in particular, made things as amenable as possible.
OF COURSE, at the core I agree with him. But he has been effectively used, involuntarily, on his part, as disinfo. IMO.
It’s a real shame but the cards always showed BushCoCheneyCo were going to ride off into the sunset, unimpeded.
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well there was a telling article some months ago, various and sundry loons, allowed to be pundits, claimed that the cash haul by ObamaRama , in and of itself, meant that he was a MOVEMENT.
They were lucky to run against an overthehillandcrashedtotherocksbelow McCain… and even so he will get a surprising [ti the Democrats] amount of votes. IMO.
The whines had ObamaRama lost would have been unendurable. I am very intent he win. People should live with… etc.
I have to laugh, the way the talking heads insist that Obama just has to tell his story, make himself familiar to that tough nugget of likely Dem voters, those who are still resisting his abundant charms.
Ugh. The more I see, the more disgusted I get.
Funny he isnt more ahead of McCain. I just dont see all the dopey BushFan voters as McCainiacs. McCain looks too old to jump out of the pickup and and chainsaw the brush. And back in 2004 there was that dopey mantra a lot of them fell into about not “switching horses” midstream of a war, even though they were starting to smell a bit of shit from the Offal Office. Well, that sentiment is a lot less prevalent these days. And yet, despite all the raging ObamaLuv we must suffer, there is McCain — a droopy, horrific campaigner without a dime’s worth of decent policies — just a few points within reach of Obama, in poll after poll. There is the Pew, I think, which puts him 8 points ahead, but most are slimmer.
McCain is so bad though, it seems like Obama will win.
Do you mean Bugliosi is used to make it seem like his points are crackpotted, because he comes off a bit crackpottish?
And when he wins we will STILL be forced to hear him teaching and preaching his life story, summoned to his patriarchal knee.
Son of an atheist who was a son of a muslim, former goat herder etc. KansasKenyaHawai’iSSChicago, found Jesus, lost a preacher — on and on it goes….
God knows it laps son of a mill worker. By miles. What a pity.
I’m starting to think he will pick Hagel. Some sort of vague, ‘I am really a Nebraskan, can’t you tell, didn’t you read my books’ sort of affinity. I think these are the most hilarious Veepessa runway shows ever, with Edwards actually thinking he could be it. These people have lost their minds
What goes up, must come down.
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more or less… he makes himself easy to dismiss.
He really was frantic on KGO and hard to follow, tho I hung in, and some of the call ins were interesting.
It sounds to me like you could use a good dose of
Obama told me, many times over, “we will change the country and we will change the world!!!”
You callin him///a liyuh?
Yeah, but idiosyncratic and frantic as he is, what he talks about actually contains the urgency of now, in a meaningful sense, unlike someone else who shall not be mentioned, who bandies that phrase about. (Hint: Not MLK)
LOL More hilarious are a couple of her earlier stump speeches… wehre the most brilliant man, Obama, will lead us, whether we like it or not.
Quite the pair.
it’s thin and there is a ton of helium being pumped by the party.
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I agree. And Bugliosi is well known here in CA and in SF, one reason he got a lto of time on KGO, in as amenable as possble circumstances.
why are they always blowing up wedding parties? Is there a special wedding party seeking program on the Predator drones?
mostly women and children too, from what I read.
Well the first big one we blew up, back in 2003, near the border, a desert wedding party, taking plce between two Ramadi families… we claimed terrorists,. which it seemed [to me] were tribal family members who came over the border as people do, on their own, to the wedding… as well as [horrors!] drug smugglers.
Full text from JPost:
It’s a real shame but the cards always showed BushCoCheneyCo were going to ride off into the sunset, unimpeded.
The donks folded on Iran/Contra and BCCI … why would they do anything now? They’re eager to get their hands on the power themselves, as I think you’ve pointed out many times.
The only people who are held “accountable” for anything in this country are the poor and powerless.
“As the Ministry of Defense, we haven’t observed any IAF warplanes practicing in Iraqi airspace,” said Major-General Mohammad al-Askari, spokesman for the Iraqi Defense Ministry.
So they’ve rebuilt the air defense systems that we destroyed back in ‘03? Somehow I doubt it. It would be my bet that the only airspace monitoring going on is being done by the Americans.
Kucinich to Present Impeachment Case to Panel
They’ll only allow actual hearings if they’re forced to kicking and screaming. Good on Dennis and Wexler for continuing to push.
The Onion: Congress Struggles to Create Cool Name for Drug Law
Just … wow:
The “leader” of the so-called free world as dickhead fratboy. I’m surprised he didn’t drop trou and light a fart.
Love how they trot out the stories, when ti si time for us to move on. To the next cardboard cut out. It all feels so 1976.
Step away from the links Madman … I’m getting carried away, but at least I’m not getting struck by lightening w/ a video camera running in my hand.
Well, Vincent may be a bit off kilter, but his passion is cool, really.
Fools Rush In…
I went to see a panel on impeachment in the spring, at the urging of a Tasini organizer I met and worked with during the campaign. My friend is relentless, will not waving the white flag re impeachment (I have helped him get signatures for letters to Congress, in the past)
Scott Horton, Bruce Fein and Elizabeth Holzman were on the panel. The event was held at a very liberal, involved church in the Village, Judson Church, just off Washington Square Park (you know, that iconic countercultural mecca of the folk scene, hippies – a place that was still full of that spirit, in some ways… really! Yet another special landmark taken out. One we tried and failed to save.)
I was coming down with a fierce cold (or something), already weakened, and then had to get the park destruction in my face, recently conquered (by Bloomberg Mafia/Rats), pass the chain link in the heart of it with the (Oh to be a vandal!) “UNDER construction! sign on it. The famous fountain fenced up so it could be bulldozed up, too sad… I had avoided this disaster ever since I knew it got the go ahead. This was my first confrontation with it.
So I had to walk thru that in order to enter this church to listen to yet another lost cause – Impeachment.
Not that I think it is ever good to give up. But I was really feeling it that day. They always win. (Triple that sense, if you add the lost cause of Tasini, the connection to my going to the event) Spoke to Bruce a bit afterward and my god, that guy is the real deal! He is genuinely ultra passionate about the Constitution and getting these crooks. I talked to him about the sad fact that the complicit Dems will not let it happen. He, of course, knew this was so, but at the same time he acted so amazed that it could be so, that they could let this happen. It was quite amazing to see the vitality of this guy’s passion around this issue.
Scott also seemed to be quite worked up as he spoke to the crowd. Didnt speak to him personally.
So much cynicism, weariness, wariness, ignorance, distraction… and then this passion over something meaningful, so rare. Guess Bugliosi made me think of this.
Anyway, quite a contrast to how I felt at the time.
#77 = Unfuckingbelievable! (Nah, not really)
Bush’s parting (farting?) comment to the G-8 is like fucking South Park, isnt it?!
Cant wait for the next one. How will he top himself? Cant even imagine.
(Hands it to Daily Show on a platter. Dont tinker with it; it’s done.)
I have no problem with Bugliosi. It also is not hard to see where the “off kilter” in his passion comes from, he has been at the heart of the darkness, of a particular CA sort, for decades.
SOMEONE should hcarge Bush with murder, but the political system, as ti readies itself to elect some hyped game, is so fucking broken.
I am glad for the Bugliosi message but it is in a maelstrom. In the end, congress went along, it just blots out any charges, from Bugliosi to Kucinich … unless one indicts the entire system. I don’t notice America ready to do that — and one reason I am honesttogod sick of Bush hate. what an escape hatch.. On the other hand I am unsure enough people really want to be lectured on monolingualism, bi-lingualism by someone who speaks only English, as Obama finally broke down and admitted. OH yeah I was so surprised.
The next few years might be marginally more interesting.
It’s a peculiar tower of babel that we climbed up in this country. Where Fein can claim shock at those Dems. Reminds me of John Dean writing close to election in 2004 about all the Dems would do to fight for the vote, afterward. I jsut shook my head.
It gets so fucking OLD
Watching Russ Douthat on Moyers (and another conservative) bemoaning what the Bushies have “done” to the Republicans. Made an interesting argument that the point of conservativism is to ‘preserve American exceptionalism’ followed by a litany about how wonderful Americans are about working thru theri churches, giving to charity etc.
Of course, NO acceptance that Americans do this not just out of a generosity of spirit, but often because they want to deny aid/succor to some unworthy OTHER, i.e. “not white”/poor.
It’s an amazing blind spot that these people have.
Why Does Barack Obama Hate My Family?
well……bingo on the last graf.
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and Ross Douthat is a young conservative. I had been reading him at The Atlantic, thinking he was 55. Gosh, he sounded like it.
oh nooooooooooooooooo. another that has been elevated, for decades to come.
A change I can’t believe in
Douthat was a moron, just a slightly rightward version of the DLC guys.
Dumb, historically ignorant.
From Counterpunch linked by Madman
and by the way I have searched high and low for a transcipt or even a few references to this speech obama gave to the CBC lst year, in February…. I have never found it, I have found all of three refrences to the quote. Three with this one….
hmm I had nto read that he used it in SC… I had only read of that same characterisation, used in Feb 2007 to some gathering of the CBC.
#77 I can’t ever seem rid myself of Bush outrage, it’s something I have in never ending supply, he continues to appall me. I wonder if it will even stop next January when skips blithely to his pig ranch?
senate “oversight”
93 – there will be more, many more.
re Indymac and Fannie and Freddie…
Yeah but Dodd stood up today and said nothing to be afraid of. Fear itself, mebbe,, but we are strong. Yadda yadda yadda yadda, collection plate out to the Financial Ser vices Industry. Etc.
That’s very funny, Madman.
It needs an encore.
Lol
Grace Nearing (scriptoids) is deft and adept. She was shut for almost a year and a half, then madman posted something from her site… I had given up shortly before that and finally taken her off the blogroll… so I put her back… LOL
I saw the Moyers too.
Call me crazy but I kinda liked the older guy.
Not too down with the younger one, myself.
Too full of himself to deign to give a NEW policy for the R’s new middle class Rx, but none of those social policies of the Ds (old timey ones), and keep the religion, family values…
(um hmmmm… all right, whiz kid, we’ll just take it on faith…)
They both got a little muddy in the religion waters, but I say go with the older dude.
(Too lazy for names right now.)
So agree with you on the all tied in together, Rs and Ds – so how to impeach/prosecute, etc. And on the sick of bushhate as excuse. As lightning rod.
If I could think of something clever at this hour to do with “when the cats away, the mice will play” along the lines of “when GWB is in the house, the Dems will …??? -> unnoticed, play the louse?
Lol … Time for bed, I think.
I went back there on a whim, actually. Glad I did. Grace puts up some great stuff.
98 – there is an appalling historical ignorance w/ guys like Douthat. Just another spin on kos, etc.
Moyers just coming on… Douthat and Mickey Edwards…
……………and they got around to Roe. Of course.
nu thred
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