Oh right! The most important election of our lifetime… right. 30 July 2008
Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.trackback

Chéri Samba
Après le 11 Septembre, 2001 2002
Acrylic and glitter on canvas 200 x 350 cm
Photo Patrick Gries
Courtesy C.A.A.C. – The Pigozzi Collection, Geneva
© Chéri Samba
link to larger depiction of painting, shown at 2007 Venice Biennale













Madman, previous thread
That line about feeding the German crowd with bratwursts and Heinekens is very funny, but not entirely correct from a satirical point of view. Heineken is a Dutch brew.
Bush borrowing 27 BILLION dollars just to get us through the July to September quarter.
way to go bozo!
According to a currently besieged idiot diarist on DK (I smell hardcore libertarian), Obama is a stealth socialist candidate, a Manchurian a la Sweden, who once in office will blanket us with a socialist agenda, the likes of which…
Well, just lol. I wish.
Didnt someone else posit that he is a Trojan Horse, stuffed with Jimmy Carter clones (aka: honest broker on I/P) who shall burst out, once the horsey is in the gate, and deliver devastating rounds of evenhanded karate chops, whipping a just resolution into being.
Again, just lol.
Then there is Keith Olbermann, who put forth some theory of the Dont Worry, Be Happy sort, on Obama’s FISA flip. It goes something like, once he gets in (They all start like that… Once upon an Obama inauguration…) he’ll not rest until the evildoers (the spys who didnt love us) are criminally prosecuted, and all shall be well.
For the 3rd time… LOL!
And STOP IT!
One thing that is evident about this guy – there is always the next rung on the ladder in his sights (I dont know what’s next … King of the Universe?) And he is too sharp an operator to unleash such fantastical changes, spurn the establishment that brung him.
So get used to it, magical thinkers, whether it’s your nightmare or your wet dream: The “Change” Menu will NOT include the following:
1) Swedish Meatballs for America
2) Equal slices of the Pita for Israelis and Palestinians.
3) Jailhouse grub for the WoT!!! spy club
Oops – spys=spies.
The “Barack, Libertarian’s Nightmare,” diary, for those who need a laugh.
The REAL Barack Obama
in a comment at NYT
ObamaKaine sounds like something my dentist might treat me with.
DKos FP today on Veepstakes…. figures it’s between Sibelius and Daschle… hmmmm.
I got ObamaKaine last time I went in for a molar extraction. Damn stuff makes you numb from the neck up.
I really don’t thiink it will be Sibelius. As moiv says, “she has an abortion problem”, which is even reported every once in a while. The Dr Tiller extended story in KS.
I could see Daschle… I mean the Democrats never seem to “get” that losing is FUCKING LOSING.
He lost to Thune and he lost DUMB. And the party was with him in the mess. But that does not deter Democrats. They probably are just so happy he is Navy Intell. And a Dem.
Gah what a fucked race.
Actually Daschle makes some sort of sense i guess, kind of like a reliable side dish on the plate. He adds age and experience, doesn’t rock the boat (for the average Dem anyway) and they’ll take very pretty pictures together. Obamarama didn’t win the SD primary though even with Daschle’s campaigning for him, not a plus.
It seems like Daschle’s staff makes up alot of Obama’s inner circle so maybe it’s the Dem version of the Cheney VP hunt.
oh…. and Daschle is Catholic which the media keeps salivating over (“nobody wins without the Catholic vote” they keep reminding us).
Dascle was on board early, like Kaine. And yes lots of his critical staff are signed on with Ob.
That should give people pause. Frankly.
Daschle lost DUMB, nothing makes that better. And the party was stupid enough to think it had a gentlemans agreement not to hit leadership. No gentlemen either side.
Madman just emailed this:
LINK to WSJ
laughable crap x2 cited at atrios
filibuster proof tally of 60 my ass. the only way the donks will get a fillibuster proof tally is to seat 75. 60 demcratiks voting on any given prog issue is 44 voting for and the other 16 against. 60+16=76. thats closer to the magic “more ‘n bettah” number for progs. even their damned obama votes FISA alongside the unified republicans!
The media constantly provides cover to the Democrats, as though they are rendered [mysteriously] powerless by some sudden new game of “60″. I caught Sam Donaldson on some KGO radio news update thsi morning, carefully delivering Democratic cover slobber.
What a weak party. They can only ”win” when the R are in utter disarray.
I am very intent that the Dems should have good large SAFE majorities and should win the WH.
Oh please god give the Dems a slam dunk for Christmas. Pretty please.
Heineken is a Dutch brew.
But don’t you see, that just shows how magic he REALLY is. National borders part like the Red Sea before his need to help those who BELIEVE.
I think that pwogs and donks should get some of that lube that includes ObamaKaine, because otherwise they’re gonna feel mighty sore when the party is done fucking them over.
Prepare for years of this.
Nothing there for the American people, any more than with McCain.
Right now, I’m still confident that TPTB will manage yet another anxious, paranoid nailbiter, even with GOP ignominy and a pretty, pleasing slim Donk.
OT: Queen Victoria’s Not-So-Secret Sale.
The perfect summer AP story – designed for light watercooler refreshment!
Dennis Kucinich on Democracy Now responding to the statements that Nancy Pelosi made on The View about impeachment.
Thanks for posting that link from WSJ I sent you. Except for the obligatory libertarian “it’s all the lefties fault” section in the middle, it was pretty good (the progressives referenced in the article would NEVER have stood for the destruction of regulation that the Donks wrought … the whole system they set up depended upon robust regulation). Anyway, since I’m really nerding out on what is wrong w/ the business climate in this country, more from Crooked Timber:
Yet more on fiduciary obligation
The whole “wisdom of the markets” and glory that is greed thing is just really such bullshit. Nearly the entire sweep of human creative history wouldn’t have happened if creativity was only motivated by greed and the markets. No penicillin, no Laws of Thermodynamics, no plastics, no Sistine Chapel or Blue Period or punk music. No love, romantic poetry, folk music … no co-op stores or barn raisings or hootenannies or juke joints. No jazz, no blues, no rock and roll … no hip hop or graffiti.
No community.
Basically, none of the things that make life just a little more grand.
“Our” Turn
snip
I think I have a couple in moderation.
Sorry Madman, got them out of moderation. usually I get an email to check the Moderation File when a comment falls there.. but not this time
Well we are awash in various forms of prohibition-type laws in CA… some North some South, some state wide (Arnold banned transfats, state wide, for restaurants, but you can still choke on a Twinkie). I am convinced it is done to divert attention from the utter collpase of much of financial services… the utter vacuity of the political scene (nearly complete on that old congeal game)… and so on.
There is even talk of shutting banning our nude beaches. Gah.
what, they’re going to shutter the nude beaches AFTER banning transfats and fast food?!?!?
that just doesn’t make any sense!
oh, and meant to add a thanks for releasing the hounds/comments.
Thanks, Madman. Here’s a Rush transcript of Kucinich on Democracy Now, for the youtube disinclined.
Let’s hope and sea, biscuit. But good on you for laying down the record.
what, they’re going to shutter the nude beaches AFTER banning transfats and fast food?!?!?
Privatization of the Lambs!
They are letting us have one thing back, bonfires on Ocean Beach. WIth an innovative twist. Will see if I can find an article on it, a good story for once.
are the bonfires a way to burn off the oil residue?
No the OK came thru before the oil spill… Ocean Beach is under the NPS… I can’t find a picture easily, but they OK’d fire pits along a certain stretch of OB (which is huge) and then artists designed fire pits, apparently an idea borrowed from somewhere in SoCal where it has worked.
Bon fires, fire pits are just so primal, that to ban them, is right up there with banning nude beaches. Tho even if they do, some like San Gregorio will be hard to police. You practically have to scale the cliff to get to it, there is a stairway cut into the wall and rope bannister (at least when I went) so the beach milieu there is pretty much self selected by the barrier of the cliff. People will just keep going there and taking their cloths off (or not, it is very loose, people do what suits them).
31 – wow, that sounds awesome.
It’s not out of the question that some judge or other (outside the US of course) might on one fine day. issue a warrant for the arrest of high-ranking Bush administration officials- a la Pinochet or other Latin American scoundrels. Make no mistake, in such an event, Obama will reject vigorously such a warrant with the full power of the US government.
Someone please remind me again, what were the reasons we should unite behind this guy? I may have known, once, but now I have a really hard time remembering any.
thanks to moiv for this link, but to answer your question in #33 CSTAR:
Hopium helps you forget several unpleasant facts
hmm Just heard about this lead editorial in the SJ Mercury News… a host on KGO http://www.KGOam810.com radio is spending the hour on it. Pity, he and the editorial all trust the DEMOCRATS to teh be dam against this. At least the vague concept that the righties are going after it ALL, is getting around…
Hopium should be banned. hell they banned the perfume here for how long I forget now, a year or more.
i’m OK with banning the transfats, if just because they’re poisons posing as food substitutes for the reason of making processed foods store longer.
it’s a pointless ban done at the state level, though, as the packaged stuff crossing state lines far outstrips the in-state prepared food (and makes up a larger % of poor people’s food, thus compounding the already huge health gap WRT obesity and diabetes that bad cheap food creates). honestly, i’d be in favor of a pretty stringent national food purity law that gets rid of most of that chemical crap that adulterates nearly everything people can buy to eat.
no argument from me, however, that without free quality national health care, the rest of it is rather trivial. but i’ll still cheer the demise of a wretched agribiz food substitute, as tiny as that ripple may be. i was happy with the ban of the bovine growth hormone too.
when they go for corn syrup (Archer Daniels Midland, for one) and remove frantic advertising from the cover of what passes for breakfast cereal in this country (adverts aimed at children), I might listen, slightly, on transfats.
I think it is the gyrations of one lobby over the other. And then we could talk about the Nazi in the State house. Talk about impurity.
I amjust fuckingsick to death of the banning prohibition mentality. Because it is a GAME. had it.
I gather Chung and Arnold move to a possible stand off tomorrow. Just heard him and some weak thing named Zamora from SEIU on KGO for an hour.
omigod Kaine is on with Charlie Rose. Slobber.. slobber. He looks like a chipmunk in heat.
he’s on for the hour. I actually might drop out.
“I feel in touch with Barack on his vision”
LOL Not a clue what that means.
Well not the first nearly final audition I have seen on CR.
A lot of blither about being ”a force for good”. hmm ”Multilateralism”. The ”Statue of Liberty is our beacon”.
I see horses in the mist running on the beach.
again “his DNA is a unifier”.
Talk about wanting to plunge from the fictional heights.
Going thru his full resume (well, the public version) I now know how he met his wife and returned to VA. So thrilling.
get out of here!!!!
kaine didn’t really say that did he?
amazingly enough i did find a reference on one of the obama blogs to anthony lake making the same point. i must have missed that. its so three stooges-funny i know i would have remembered.
Ob has said it… It’s in his DNA to unify us. THEY (kaine and Lake and others) say it as HE says it.
Remember: they are the ones we have been waiting for.
I am laughing so hard I am gasping for breath.
I will tell you another thing Lake said:
that it ”only matters that the president be strong for Israel”.
An interview in the past month that I linked to here…
Please tell me that Obama is not seriously considering Tom Daschele as his running mate . . .
Or Joe Biden (who is looking and sounding more and more like an Alvin The Chipmunk impersonator).
I lived in Delaware for 6 years. Someone once said that William McKinley had the backbone of an eclair. I’d say that about Biden, except it would be unfair to the pastry. What I remember most about Biden is that he’d shoot his mouth off in impolitic fashion, then issue a grovelling apology 24-36 hours later, time after time.
Kaine actually makes the most sense (I am speaking purely in terms of political appeal here). He’s dull as dishwater, but in a way that people find reassuring. Sometimes people respond to someone like that, on the grounds that he’s dependable and diligent. He also did an excellent job of handling the abortion and gun issues when he was elected governor, and his meetings with regular Joe types did not come off as forced, he seemed quite comfortable with them and they with him. Whether this translates to the national stage is another question altogether.
Saw a snatch of the latest McCain ad comparing Obama to Britney and Paris Hilton. I suppose the previous ones have flopped (that Obama Is The Reason Gas Costs So Much! spot had a gas pump straight out of the 1950s), now they really seem to be hitting bottom (they’ll doubtless prove themselves capable of sinking even further, of course). Today made it the top story, and promised appearances by honchos from both the McCain and Obama camps to discuss it. I wasn’t able to stick around for that segment, if I were the Obama rep, I’d say I thought the piece was very amusing as a bit of surrealism, and note that McCain has nothing to say w/r/t why he’d be a good president, so he’s reduced to this kind of adolescent slander. Even McCain’s former strategist John Weaver thinks this latest spot is lousy.
Thank god at least some segments of the MSM are covering the stuff that’s really important:
44-pound cat set to appear on 2 talk shows.
I’m definitely going to TiVo that Regis appearance, it isn’t often he gets to interview guests who equal his level of intellect.
Damn, just noticed the Regis appearance is set for today! Oh well, GMA will have to do, Princess Chunk will be there on Friday.
Obama’s reaction to the McCain ad:
Neither campaign seems interested in discussing anything worthy of attention, of course. Obama’s idea about withdrawing combat troops from Iraq seems intended merely to have forces available to send to Afghanistan, and his announced intention to cross the border into Pakistan is potentially at least as disastrous as Bush’s invasion of Iraq. In fact, the one sensible thing I’ve heard from either candidate recently was McCain’s comment that Obama’s sabre rattling about Pakistan was foolish.
Jake Tapper has several posts on the rat a tat tat between Ob and McC over teh The Ad. LOL INcluding a quote from Ob in 2004 in which he says he is overexposed, more than Paris. I know it kills the supporters and lovers and baskers in his glow, but i find him juvenile. Which I am sure is racist.
Oh I HOPE he picks Kaine. Another first termer. Go for it!
Good luck to them all, or both or whoever these shits are.
“combat” troops is the dodge. BAR reported as of a year and half ago, that troops were being speedily reclassifed. Some combat troops are now officially “trainers”. And there is no reason not to assume that for hire, mercs and paramilitaries will nto swell. Blackwater protected him in the war theatre and he reported said they had gotten a raw deal or unfair deal or whatever appeaser shit he shoveled out.
Yes, the smart fella from Illinois plans to sink us in AfPak.
losing proposition. Not that it matters, I suppose.
Thanks for the tip on the cat… I saw some film of him yesterday… but I don’t want to miss The Interview. What a hoot!
A blip of sanity at DK, perhaps. The diarist points out (correctly, I think) that McCain has finally found an effective negative attack on Obama – the “celebrity” rap. Possibly the first thing McCain has done “right” in his campaign, possibly this is related to his campaign shakeup of a few weeks ago?
And possibly it could be an effective attack because there’s a grain of truth to it, and not much to counterbalance it (ie, Obama’s thin Senatorial record). But McCain would have to push it long and hard to the fence-sitters – it takes more than one commercial to turn something into a meme.
Adding: There’s one sincere but telling comment in that thread…
I know I shouldn’t be surprised at the political naivete on display there, but the “popularity” is never a source of strength, obviously, and it’s extraordinarily dumb and dangerous to think so. And, um, if McCain riles his base, that’s not really a good thing for Obama, is it?
Thre is a report out.. think it might have been Ambinder, that McCain is now calling the shots on his campaign… more than before.
I ithink “celebrity” along with “elite” actually is very powerful. Hell Bobby Rush used it against ob in 00. Sure worked then.
I commented on DK about this but will throw it out here. Since neither candidate has a plan, what they are selling is mood. My feeling is that a worsening economy helps McCain and hurts Obama, since in times of belt-tightening and economic pain, and in the absence of real hope (and there is none, even though it has been commodified up the wazoo), people will feel negative about shiny and ostentatious things and people. If McCain is somehow successful in comparing Obama to Britney Spears, that would be powerful: because pretty much everybody now hates Britney Spears and everything she stands for. (Given the incompetence of the McCain campaign up to now, that’s still a pretty big “if”)
I feel that economic events are moving and national mood is changing faster than the Obama campaign really knows how to respond to. They are still selling JFK (even as recently as last week) in an era that bears no economic resemblance whatsoever to the early Sixties. It seems the McCain campaign has got an inkling of this now. And what’s coming up hard and fast? The Dem convention with its still-enigmatic central figure (Obama) and a big huge outdoor Nuremburg rally planned… right after the Olympics which will probably be Nuremburg 24/7 for two weeks and which the American public may become thoroughly sick of.
I wonder what sorts of ad planning meetings are going on about that rally, in the McCain campaign right now. (Heck, if I was tasked with continuing the meme, I’d just try to link Obama with Chinese excess and decadence…)
MCat,
If McCain is calling the shots, the ads will probably get worse and worse. Eventually, I suppose he’ll start having tantrums in public, saying really scurrilous things, etc., otherwise getting in touch with his inner Nixon.
So far, my favorite ad is the Summer Of Love one, contrasting the hedonistic hippies with brave, noble McCain in his POW cell. It should be painfully obvious by this time that however much Americans might give lip service to honoring military service, they really don’t care beyond putting a yellow ribbon magnet on their car.
57,
Kennedy was elected in 1960, when the country was just starting to come out of a mild recession. Nixon and his allies among Ike’s economic advisers (Arthur Burns chief among them) tried to get the President to do a few things to offset this, but he didn’t, and Nixon believed the economic downturn was a major reason for his defeat. That his own malignant self might have had something to do with it does not seem to have occurred to him.
As to whether in bad economic times people won’t respond positively to “shiny and ostentatious things and people,” that election and those of 1980 and 1992 shows just how wrong that notion is.
I think what’s going to doom McCain is that he looks and sounds like a tired, confused old man, and the rigors of full time campaigning (which will start in a few weeks) are only going to exacerbate this problem.
50 said
57
BamaRama is trying to sell fiction. Mood is as a good a name for it as any.
Over and over the Democrats prattle that what McC says is ‘not in tune with Americans’. BULLSHIT. They are in dreamland.
I listened to Bill Press for 40 minutes this am, bitch and moan about the ad, how racist how this how that. Few callers agreed, some did… but when he was out of steam on the damned ad, what did he have to push??
Oh just holding Rove in contempt. Best delivered with a weak lisp imo. Meaningless.
58
I wish that so much of your second graf did nto fit ObBaby as well. I have pawed thru an appalling amount of his speeches and commentaries and interviews, sit downs with ed boards… and full text of debates, over the past 4 years. A gagworthy endeavor frankly.
I am SICK TO DEATH of how he portrays the 60s and 70s. Ignorant asshole. Vision DNA crap crap crap… and only he can heal us. WTF?
All I can say is FUCK HIM. It really is a horrible horizon.
i am sorry, I saw (and see) McC Hillary and Ob as equals. The only difference is years and access to corruption. The Obs wanna catch up.
57,
OTOH, you’re certainly right that there selling nothing but mood, atmospthere, attitude, whatever you want to call it. They’ll continue to do so, and at some point in November, some MSM maven who’s been one of the worst enablers of this process will indignantly proclaim that nothing of substance was discussed in the campaign. At least back in 1960 the phony issues (i.e., the “Missile Gap” and the squabbles over who would be more forthright in defending Quemoy and Matsu) had something to do with the real world. No longer.
kaine did an awful thing last night on Rose. he is one of thse people who set their eyes to slits. Very disconcerting in a pol. He also over and over when making declarative statements, would look down and off to the right, his right.
But when he talked about abortion (all his old tropes, he’s not for criminalising women, WHOOPEEE) and when eh talked about religion (Honduras Honduras Honduras and “my wife stengthened my religion” WTF? mroe sex is sacred shit?) he OPENED HIS EYES and looked directly at the camera (he was on remote, not at the table).
One more fucking Catholic.
While the bitch and moan goes on about the ad, Obs religious outreach met yesterday I think with Cahtolics in congress… (Brody at CNS covered it) abortion abortion abortion.
oh and he said “we should argue the morality of abortion”.
Among other things.
MCat, no. 60,
Obama’s primary season campaign was notable for its vapidity. If you’ve ever seen the Doris Day/Rock Hudson vehicle “Lover Come Back,” Obama’s schtick reminded me of that movie’s ad campaign “VIP IS COMING!!!” for a product that didn’t exist. Nothing I’ve seen since has changed my mind. If you dig through the layers of camouflage he and Hillary covered themselves with, you get a message of “I’ll do imperialism more efficiently and ruthlessly than Bush did!” Whether this is simply rhetoric intended to get elected or what he really hopes to do we won’t know unless he’s in the WH next year.
bayprarie,
I am merely talking about how he finessed the issue as a professional politician, which I think I made clear. I don’t support him, I’m merely passing a judgment on how he performed as a candidate.
Honestly the line
We are the ones we have been waiting for
summed it up.
STOP THE PRESSES, BREAKING, BREAKING, BREAKING!!!!!!!!!
My wife informs me that it was announced on Regis and Kelly that Princess Chunk is in fact a prince. If only I hadn’t been banned at Kosolini’s site, I could go over there and do a diary that would no doubt be at the top of the Recommended List in no time.
I observed the vet examining the Prince. LOL, it was pretty funny.
Frankly Prince looked a tad thiner than in the film made when he ws found…
67,
Yes, I do love that one, along with “Change You Can Believe In!” Perfectly meaningless. Henry Wallace, for whom I have a great deal of respect and admiration for (among other things) trying to point out that we were trying to win the Cold War by allying ourselves with a bunch of Greek/Italian/Japanese gangsters and suggesting this was liable to create a lot of problems for us down the road, authored a really great line: “New horizons beckon with meaningful opportunities.” You could do a college senior thesis analyzing that empty platitude, which manages to be a non sequitar, oxymoron, and a mixed metaphor all at once.
69,
I think he’s being given a strict diet at this point. From the shots I’ve seen of him, he doesn’t look that fat, he must be a really huge feline to begin with. The first picture I saw of him reminded me of one of my cats, a very large white female who probably weights 20-23 pounds.
Agree Prince is a BIG cat, front to back… his head and so on.
STOP THE PRESSES, SPECIAL REPORT, BREAKING, BREAKING, BREAKING!!!!!!!!!
Prince(ss) Chunk’s owner has come forward and said she abandoned the cat because she lost her home due to a mortgage foreclosure. The cat’s name is in fact “Powder.”
Maybe Obama or McCain could do a campaign commercial with the cat, promoting their economic policies for helping out people in this situation.
I imagine that Powdered Prince has a line up trying to adopt him… LOL. What a hoot.
And poor lady.
part of the problem, at least around here, tho I am sure there is some flexibility during a crisis, there often is a wait list to surrender pets. I think some people just are caught.
I feel badly as normally at a itme like thsi I could adopt at least one adult cat. That miserable sub prime mess.
hmm Ron Owen of KGO radio is spenidng an hour on the new attemtp thru HHS to redefine abortion as any contraception.
http://www.KGOam810.com (they stream)
Bush issued an EO on the HHS abortion issue.
hmm have to find a news report on this.
Mcat,
This provides some background.
hmm Ron Owen said an EO has been issued by Bush. It is an accomplished fact.
Will dig some more…
PSA:
Papal States of America
Prostate Specific Antigen
CAUTION: REALLY AWFUL JOKE OF DUBIOUS TASTE FOLLOWS
Stuart Little has died.
If he was wandering around South Jersey the last few days in the vicinity of Prince Chunk/Powder, I think I know what happened to him. (Rim shot)
I can hear the groaning making its way through the Internet.
Mcat,
I can’t find anything about Bush signing the EO either. I suppose it will make it’s way into the major websites tomorrow.
Just happened on this story about financial troubles at Tony Soprano’s favorite newspaper, the Newark Star-Ledger, flagship of the not exactly distinguished Newhouse chain. Of course it only got to be the flagship because their original flagship, The Long Island Press (based in Jamaica, Queens) went under about 30 years ago. The Newhouse papers are/were broadsheets that behave like tabloids, i.e., they liked to go in for screaming headlines, but the Newhouse family was so cheap, they often had trouble finding items worthy of this kind of sensational treatment. I believe it was the S-L that once ran an across the top of the front page screaming banner that read “Wood Ibis Faces Extinction.” So now, apparently, does the S-L.
Ooops, forgot the link.
Maybe Owen got mixed up about this one?
Bush approves revision of order governing U.S. spy agencies
Here’s the White House list, updated through 7/31.
It’s official.
New Mass. law lets out-of-state gay couples marry
I think Owen was wrong… I thought maybe he caught something off the wire, but I see nothing.
There is speculation that W will issue an EO
Thanks for the links….
I declare the day, or the 48 hours, a draw but also a pivot. NOW they have each accused the other of racism, bias, race card use, and or general bias.
gah.
nu thread………………….
LINK
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BTW, just heard that Prince Chunk, aka Powder, has 15 people per hour calling to adopt her. Er, him.