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Oh I don’t know… 23 September 2008

Posted by marisacat in DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, U.S. House, U.S. Senate.
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I think his image of Christmas baby greed and lechery suits the times, in fact, suits the moment… I can see Paulson in a red snood from the finest velvet with ermine trim… he is looking quite papal .. achieving some sort of Holy Goldman Sachs Empire…

Deep Thought

Why did Bush ruin the country?

–Josh Marshall

I dunno Josh, why did he have so many HELPERS? – and I am not claiming that as a Deep Thought, either!

LOL:

“I believe if the credit markets are not functioning, that jobs will be lost, that our credit rate will rise, more houses will be foreclosed upon, GDP will contract, that the economy will just not be able to recover in a normal, healthy way.” —Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke

“Nobody is happy.” — House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md.

“I understand speed is important, but I’m far more interested in whether or not we get this right.” — Rep. Chris Dodd, chairman of the Senate banking committee

“What he is saying here is, this program that they think is very important, we need it to get the economy out of the doldrums, but if it is going to nick them of a couple of million of the millions that they already have, they are going to boycott it.” — House Financial Services Committee Chairman Rep. Barney Frank on Paulson’s objections to restrictions on CEO pay-outs

“Just because God created the world in seven days doesn’t mean we have to pass this bill in seven days,” said Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas.

“You worry about taxpayers being on the hook?” he replied at one point. “Guess what – they’re already on the hook.” — Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson

“If we get consensus and everybody is popping champagne, then I’ll probably go back to campaign with folks who are having a tough time in Ohio and Michigan,” Mr. Obama said. “If this ends up being a close vote or a vote where the outcome is at all in question, then obviously this is a top priority.” — Sen. Barack Obama

“Whether calling for a bipartisan oversight board or prohibitions on golden parachutes, Barack Obama is simply following in John McCain’s footsteps while trying to respond to this financial crisis, as he followed in John McCain’s footsteps when he attempted to respond to the recent crisis in Georgia.” — Tucker Bounds, spokesman for the McCain campaign

“The truth is, every time somebody tells you that you’ve got to do the deal right now, it usually means they’re going to get the better part of the deal.” — Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind.

“The party is over for this compensation for CEOs who take the golden parachute as they drive their companies into the ground. … The party is over for financial institutions taking risks [and] at the same time privatizing any gain they may have while they nationalize the risk, asking the taxpayer to pick up the tab.” — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.

“This massive bailout is not a solution. It is financial socialism and it’s un-American.” — Sen. Jim Bunning, R-Ky.

“I think you should think of that as unthinkable.” — Tony Fratto, White House spokesman, when asked what would happen if the bail-out didn’t pass

“They are saying this is failure of the free markets of capitalism when, in fact, this is a failure because government injected itself into the free market, created this easy credit, these guaranteed loans, and these loans are what have turned into the bad paper that are bringing all these financial institutions down.” — Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C.

“Nobody wants to do this. Nobody wants to be involved in this. Nobody wants to take the chance, but I would argue… if we do nothing, we are jeopardizing our economy, jobs and people’s retirement security.” — Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio

And the winner is… former Democrat, now ranking member of the Banking Committee…

“What troubles me most is that we have been given no credible assurances that this plan will work. We could very well spend $700 billion and not resolve the crisis.” — Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala.

Time to retreat to the 1950s era fall out shelters! It’s not “the Russians are coming”, tho (and it never was!)…

[the roll call of quotes, all bundled up and ready to go, is thanks to some industrious schnauzer at Weekly Standard, not me… LOL –Mcat]

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I say we embrace failure and order up some more!  Seconds please…?

^^^^^

I cannot resist! I have no idea when PBS’s The News Hour put together today’s segment (entitled,
Confidence, Openness Mark Obama’s Decision Making Style), but talk about rocky synchronicity:

Just the opening shot of the segment:

SEN. BARACK OBAMA (D), Illinois: Now, with Joe Biden at my side, I am confident we can take this country in a new direction.

MARGARET WARNER: If you want to get an idea of how Barack Obama would govern at president, look at whom he picked for vice president and how.

DAVID AXELROD, Obama Campaign Chief Strategist: He’s very methodical in how he evaluates decisions. He asks a series of questions. He’ll engage you in dialogue on the options. And then he’ll make a decision. And he doesn’t look back at that decision.

MARGARET WARNER: His chief political strategist, David Axelrod, said the choice of the far more experienced Senator Biden was no fluke.

DAVID AXELROD: You know, there were those who said, “Well, you don’t want Joe Biden because Joe has been around a long time. He’s got a lot of opinions. He’s a strong personality.”

And Barack said, “No, that’s exactly what I want.” He’s completely comfortable with very bright people. He doesn’t mind being challenged. He enjoys it.

MARGARET WARNER: The novice presidential candidate built a formidable campaign organization just that way: with a multilayered brain trust of aides and advisers. Insiders say Obama manages by hiring people he trusts and giving them a long leash. His light-handed management style became an issue this spring.

TIM RUSSERT, Former Host, NBC’s “Meet the Press”: You said one of your weaknesses is, quote, “I’m not an operating officer.”

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: Well, I think what I was describing was how I view the presidency. Now, being president is not making sure that schedules are being run properly or that paperwork is being shuffled effectively. It involves having a vision for where the country needs to go.

LOL I don’t think Biden ever got on board… this week, just so far, has been a whirlwind from his corner.

Good Luck — to someone!

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1. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 September 2008

is it over yet?

2. CSTAR - 23 September 2008

Oh Oh! Now I get it! It’s the rapture and we’re the ones left behind to pay the bills!

3. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 September 2008

Is a U.S.-Approved Coup Under Way in Bolivia?

On Monday, Sept. 15, Bolivian President Evo Morales arrived in Santiago, Chile for an emergency meeting of Latin American leaders that convened to seek a resolution to the recent conflict in Bolivia. Upon his arrival, Morales said, “I have come here to explain to the presidents of South America the civic coup d’etat by governors in some Bolivian states in recent days. This is a coup in the past few days by the leaders of some provinces, with the takeover of some institutions, the sacking and robbery of some government institutions and attempts to assault the national police and the armed forces.”

4. liberalcatnip - 23 September 2008

My latest: How Not to Spend $700 Billion which nicely sums up your roundup of quotes. 😉

5. diane - 23 September 2008

Another priceless Ratsinger pic Marisa, he looks exactly like Megan (was that her name?) in The Excorist, right before she swiveled her head around.

6. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 September 2008

caption for the photo:

“I’ll have to get Georg to sneak that new altar boy up the back stairway so he can sit on Santa’s lap.”

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 September 2008
8. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 September 2008
9. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 September 2008
10. diane - 23 September 2008

I’m sure the caption’s pretty fitting Madman. I wonder where that creepy elf of his, with the cadaverous hands, is? He must have been absent for that shoot, there’s a few strands of fur out of place.

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 September 2008

10 – paying off the families of young children on their way past the candy canes and before they pick up their souvenir photo, I bet.

On to other creeps and criminals:

The Large Badloan Collider

12. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 September 2008
13. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 September 2008

btw, I don’t know if ms x is around lately (she hasn’t been, has she?), or if she has HBO, but Nader is gonna be on Maher’s panel on Friday night.

14. diane - 23 September 2008

11 & 12

That Badloan Collider is hilarious.

Just read about that incident in India. Those assholes on Wall Street, really don’t know how lucky they are.

15. liberalcatnip - 23 September 2008

You know what I’d like to see at the first debate? McCain and Obamalama walking out together to one podium and then whoever won the coin toss grabbing the mic and saying, “Fuck this, we’re going home”.

16. diane - 23 September 2008

Just noticed a very large ad on this (to be expected) AP article: Democrats to let offshore drilling ban expire. Tracing the ad to its owners, I found this “Board of Advisors:”

Mark Wallace
R. James woolsey
Henry Sokolski
Dennis Ross
Karen Hughes
Richard Holbrooke
Leslie Gelb
Fouad Ajami

for United Against Nuclear Iran (UANI), a program of the American Coalition Against Nuclear Iran (ACANI), Inc., a proclaimed “501(c)(3)” ‘charitable organization’ (though they state in the fine print here, …application for exemption [re 501(c)(3)pending (which I guess may mean, no disclosure of financial info?)).

Found out UANI just launched their website yesterday here (didn’t waste any time getting that ad and petition up did they), and more on it here.

And I’m waiting to see the large AP add opposing aggression against Iran, or any other country we’ve been already dropping bombs on…..(yeah sure).

17. CSTAR - 23 September 2008

The Rapture is a political/economic thriller and I’m starring in it!!

18. diane - 23 September 2008

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That would be pricelss, I wish at least one politician during my lifetime would announce that after being all dolled up for those creepy, enourmous ‘TV’ moniters…

The one pleasure I do get in life, is turning off the huge 24/7 FOX airing, energy sucking wall TV, in the cafeteria when it’s empty and I’m able, don’t have a clue who can sit there and enjoy a meal with that shit.

19. diane - 23 September 2008

I’m waiting to view the Rupture, the one where the earth opens up on every greedy, soul-sucking, murderous prick and prickessa among us, tons of Stars in that one.

20. diane - 23 September 2008

Corrected link to my above post about United Against Nuclear Iran re the 501(c)(3) data: here.

21. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

17. The Rapture is a political/economic thriller and I’m starring in it!!

I have dibs on all the cheesecake Left Behind. Parteh!

22. diane - 24 September 2008

That’s weird: I wanted to post that the ad I referred to above, by UANI is now changed to a Comcast ad, and tried numerous times but was rerouted to a page not available window, I’m posting via a proxy. I seriously need to do a virus check on my computer, the same thing still happens re Dkos, and I’ve come to think I wasn;t banned (though I don’t really care), but it’s something else rerouting the address. I’ll see what happens tomorrow.

23. lucid - 24 September 2008

I can’t even find my water glass… I guess that means its soul was pure – and mine, well, maybe watched a few too many John Waters films as a youngin’… all that dirty filthiness and all!

24. marisacat - 24 September 2008

LOL Here is a laugh, and I resign from the Blonde Confederation, my last and longest affiliation. clue: Jane Hamsher/The Hamster has gone blonde. And not well…………………..

25. marisacat - 24 September 2008

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I was so delighted I had eye lids when I saw Pink Flamingoes… whenever it came out.. think I was 18 or 19………………….

26. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 September 2008

something is up w/ Iran … they’re pushing it on Morning Joe hard. Wesley Clarke is lying that the Nuclear inspections have been “incomplete” because Achmedenijad (sp?) is not allowing “full” inspections. Funny, but the last story I read about those inspections made no such claim.

off to work.

27. marisacat - 24 September 2008

First laugh of the day:

Prsident Clinton tells The American Prospect’s DANA GOLDSTEIN that

‘Democrats must sell the bail-out of Wall Street as an investment in regular Americans’ retirement savings and the security of their mortgages.’ He also reassessed his own economic legacy in light of the current financial crisis.

28. marisacat - 24 September 2008

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Interesting that it is Wesley… I assume he is still a Clinton minion, but I guess he could serve other interests as well.

29. NYCO - 24 September 2008

27. Clinton’s heart and soul, his very being, belongs to the American Empire; did you expect him to say anything otherwise?

30. marisacat - 24 September 2008

No of course not. I quickly regretted my vote for him and did not repeat it when they gave me the chance, in ’96.

LOL I also did not bother following the embedded link to TAP. If he and she died tomorrow, it would be an improvement. Best of all had they never shown up.

31. marisacat - 24 September 2008

eh bien

I so want to see Pres ObMc extort the EU / NATO nations for greater commitement to Afghanistan and hear Sarko blither on about the nobility of the mission.. In another entry at the Paris blog I read that bankruptcies are up (25% jump) for cafes and restaurants… not so bien

[W]ives of soldiers in the French contingent were on the radio this morning complaining that they could not stand the strain of knowing their men were in possible combat. “If he doesn’t phone by 8 pm I start worrying myself sick,” said one. Others called for Sarkozy to bring the boys home from a mistaken war. Wives also reported that their husbands were poorly equipped to fight. One soldier has to take off his body armour to shoot because it is too big, his wife said. Another wife reported that morale in the Kabul detachment was very low.

The latest fuss is over the leaking of an American report on the French bungling of the hillside battle. According to the Toronto Globe and Mail newspaper, which published extracts, the French paratroopers ran out of bullets and did not have proper communication equipment, forcing them to stop fighting after 90 minutes. The Taleban were better equipped and trained and used incendiary bullets to punch holes in the French armoured vehicles, and so on. The army denied that this was a Nato analysis, saying that it was just an ill-informed e-mail from an officer with American special forces who had taken part in the French patrol. But the damage has been done.

Not surprisingly, a poll after the ambush showed that 55 percent want Sarkozy to pull France’s 2,700 troops out of the Nato operation in Afghanistan. With few exceptions today, the media are calling for a rethink and some for a French withdrawal. A serving soldier’s mother wrote a plea in L’Humanité, the communist daily, calling Sarkozy and the generals liars at the service of Uncle Sam and ending: “Give us back our children”. ::snip::

32. marisacat - 24 September 2008

Be interesting to see what develops… that idiot Reid is stating publicly that McC is for the bailout.

LOL…

33. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

Freed Afghan journalist reunited with family

An Afghan journalist held in a U.S. military prison for nearly one year was reunited with his family in Kandahar City Wednesday.

U.S. officials released Jawed Yazamy, in his early 20s, Sunday after holding him for 11 months at a base in Bagram, near Kabul.

Yazamy, who was working for CTV prior to his arrest, had passes to enter Kandahar Air Field and had drawn the suspicions of both the Americans and Canadians, CTV’s Paul Workman said Wednesday.

“They… felt that he was really much too close to the Taliban and had greater suspicions that he was not just working as a journalist and they decided that he was a security risk and did not want him on the base,” Workman told CTV Newsnet from Kandahar.

“I know for a fact that the Canadians were involved in that and felt exactly that.”

On Oct. 26, 2007, Yazamy was arrested at the base in Kandahar and held for nine days before being transferred to Bagram.

Yazamy, known by friends as Jojo, claims he was mistreated while being held in Kandahar.

He says U.S. Special Forces beat him and kept awake for days at a time.

It never ends.

34. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

So, your boy king will speak to you peasants this evening. I was going to stock up on IV caffeine but I see there’s a better alternative.

Shorter Bush: Pass.bailout.now.

35. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008
36. marisacat - 24 September 2008

Naomi Klein was on with Amy.

NAOMI KLEIN: Absolutely. You know, and a lot of people have even described this Paulson plan as an economic PATRIOT Act. You know, one of the mistakes that I think they made, honestly, Amy, is how short it is. It’s just three pages, which means—you know, usually these pieces of legislation are much longer, so people don’t even bother reading them in that moment of extortion—you know, “Pass it now, or else…or else the sky falls in.” So, you know, in this case, I think they made a miscalculation. You know, there was an interesting article in Time that just came out, where they actually say that they have been working—you know, this is a quote—it says, “[Paulson] and his team [have] been working on [this] proposal for more than six months.” So, it’s quite surprising that it is as pared down as it is. It’s three pages. And the craziest thing has happened: people have read it. Regular people have read it. It doesn’t take that much time. And, you know, you read Section 8, which is just so stunning, just so bold in its demand for total and complete impunity. And that’s really what’s getting in their way, is people are reading this text, and they’re frankly shocked by it.

I found this article in BusinessWeek that ran when Paulson was appointed to the Treasury, and I just want to read you one sentence, because I think it’s all we need to know about Henry Paulson. This is from BusinessWeek, when he got the appointment as Treasury Secretary in 2006. The headline of the article is “Mr. Risk Goes to Washington.” It says, “Think of Paulson as Mr. Risk. He’s one of the key architects of a more daring Wall Street, where securities firms are taking greater and greater chances in [their] pursuit of profits. By some key measures, the securities industry is more leveraged now than it was at the height of the 1990s boom.”

Then it goes on to say that when Paulson took over Goldman Sachs in 1999, they had $20 billion in debts. When he—in these high-risk gambles. When he left, they had $100 billion, which means he took their risk level from $20 billion to $100 billion. So it is absolutely no exaggeration to say that Henry Paulson, far from speaking for Main Street, is actually bailing out his colleagues for some of the very debts that he himself accumulated. This is an extraordinary conflict of interest.

She does leave the impression that aside from Bob Rubin advising Ob… it is all the big nasty Republicans.

What ever floats your boat. AFAIAC Dodd looks like last month’s Irish stew left out doors in the sun.

37. marisacat - 24 September 2008

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about the last thing I can drink is some beers.. so I stocked up for Friday’s debate. That WILL require some mood alteration, to get thru.

38. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

37. I picked the wrong decade (1980s) to quit drinking.

39. mattes - 24 September 2008

Paulson reminds me of Gannon.

40. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

Paulson at today’s hearings: “The $700bn program is not a spending program. It is an asset purchasing program.”

I purchased some assets at the grocery store yesterday. “Spending” is so 1990s.

41. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

39. Paulson reminds me of Gannon.

I was wondering if he and Skeletor (Chertoff) were separated at birth.

42. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

36. It’s financial terrorism.

43. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

Breaking (MSNBC): McCain wants to delay Friday’s debate to focus on the financial fiasco by returning to DC.

44. marisacat - 24 September 2008

LOL via The Page:

The Land of Lincolner tells Floridians during rally that there needs to be action soon on the economic bailout, but the plan also has to be scrutinized.

“We have to act swiftly, but we also have to get it right.”

Admits that change won’t come easy, vows to protect the middle class from higher taxes, fewer jobs.

“I don’t want to wake up in four years to find that more Americans fell out of the middle-class, and more families lost their savings.”

Read full remarks here.

45. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

I don’t agree with canceling the debate but I do think both candidates should be in DC doing their jobs.

46. marisacat - 24 September 2008

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Tell him he can’t. LOL

47. marisacat - 24 September 2008

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I think Ob is angling to not have to vote on the thing, he ahs already said he will only vote if it is “close”…

48. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

47. he ahs already said he will only vote if it is “close”…

Really? Wow. What a boneheaded move, especially since the Repubs have been going after him for all of his “present” votes (justified or not that message is out there). He has the spine of a jellyfish.

49. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

McCain debate delay announcement: “9/11” – drink!

50. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

Clay Aiken to reveal he is gay

I’m shocked! I tell ya – SHOCKED! lol

(Just thought I’d throw that in here.)

51. CSTAR - 24 September 2008

Maybe some states should secede before it’s too late.. or join Canada or Mexico.

Finalmente, La Reconquista!!.

Que estoy diciendo, no soy originario de México.

52. lucid - 24 September 2008

51 – unfortunately, they probably don’t want NY as the center of the financial meltdown is located here…

53. marisacat - 24 September 2008

51

they, whoever they are, would probably bid for us… then have buyer’s regret. We so bitch and moan over every little thing.

LOL

54. NYCO - 24 September 2008

50. WHAT??!?

I don’t believe it! I won’t believe it! I can’t believe it! I SHAN’T believe it!

55. NYCO - 24 September 2008

Yes, but New York (and Michigan etc) has control over the Great Lakes now! You dried up states can’t take our water now, nyaahh! (Unless you truck it out in millions of small bottles.)

56. lucid - 24 September 2008

Unfotunately, I think Perrier owns the Michigan aquifer in a deal signed by the gov. before Granholm… Kind of like coke owning all of the water in India.

57. marisacat - 24 September 2008

Nomi Prins in Mother Jones via TO:

Treasury Sec. Hank Paulson’s $700 billion bailout plan now has a name: the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP. But even as Capitol Hill debates TARP, few seem to have noticed the proposal item that puts taxpayers on the hook for future bailouts. It’s in Section 6, and the key phrase is this: “The Secretary’s authority to purchase mortgage-related assets under this Act shall be limited to $700,000,000,000 outstanding at any one time.”

What does “at any one time” actually mean to economists? It means that if everything we American taxpayers buy re-evaluates down to zero, we get to buy more. That’s hardly taxpayer “protection.” With several hundred billion dollars of write-downs already announced this year by the part of the industry compelled to post their losses, it’s a safe bet that $700 billion worth of the junkiest assets in existence will be heading to zero the second they are purchased.

58. marisacat - 24 September 2008

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Nesle is buying up water rights, town by town, out here. Usually rights to “overflow”… but you know small print.

59. lucid - 24 September 2008

This is something I’ve never understood… it’s friggin’ water! How can you buy and sell water? Soylent Green here we come.

60. marisacat - 24 September 2008

Looks like Mexican stand off, cock fight..

Check top two entries at The Page, McC suspending campaing to return to DC, Ob says debate is on. hmmmmmmmmmmmm

http://thepage.time.com/

61. marisacat - 24 September 2008

Ben Smith has several entries on the … what ever it is between Ob and McC

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

62. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

60. Obama may end up debating himself. Not that that’s new…

63. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

GOP hitting Joe Biden for gaffes.

By
Lynn Sweet

WASHINGTON–The Republican National Committee is turning up the heat on Joe Biden on Wednesday. Their oppo team is keeping tabs on what they consider gaffes at the Biden Gaffe Clock

Not to pile on, but here’s what Biden said on Tuesday at the National Jewish Democratic Council: In recounting his 1972 race for the Senate, Biden said, “I was a 29-year-old kid nominated for president, excuse me, nominated for senator.”

🙂

64. marisacat - 24 September 2008

It comes from the Dem schnauzers… LOL I have to say when I heard or read that Reid (and he speaks for who? LOL) this am said McC would support the bail out, I thought something of a blast reaction might happen. LOL Did not figure on this tho… what a hoot!

Debate; Says He Was Blindsided
By Greg Sargent – September 24, 2008, 5:01PM

At a press conference just now, Barack Obama rejected John McCain’s demand for a suspension of the debate.

“I believe we should continue to have the debate,” he just said. “I believe it makes sense for us to present ourselves to the American people.”

“Obviously if it turns out that we need to be in Washington, we’ve both got big planes, we’ve painted our slogan on the side of them,” Obama also said. “They can get us from Washington to Mississippi pretty quickly.” The debate is set to take place in Mississippi.

Obama also said that he was blindsided by McCain’s public call for a debates suspension. After describing their conversation about a possible suspension, Obama said: “I thought that this was something that he was mulling over. Apparently this was something that he was more decisive about in his own mind.”

Obama described their conversation as follows: “I proposed putting out the joint statement. He concurred with that. he then also said, ‘I would like us to look at suspending the campaign and pushing the debates off.’ I said, ‘let’s put out the joint statement first, and then get our campaigns to discuss this.'” Obama said he later saw McCain announcing his plans on television.

One more time: If this version of events is true, McCain’s public call for a suspension was anything but apolitical. If McCain had truly intended to keep this apolitical, he would have asked Obama to jointly suspend the debates, made his own full intentions clear, and waited for Obama’s private and definitive answer before going public.

Get the Dems some hankies.

65. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

lucid, this blog might be up your alley.

66. lucid - 24 September 2008

thanks catnip. Maybe I’ll submit some of my meanderings.

67. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

66. Good stuff. 🙂

68. marisacat - 24 September 2008

LOL

Biden restricting press access as well. I wonder why

69. NYCO - 24 September 2008

Has anyone got any info on exactly where the gas shortages are in the South? Asking because my dad is determined to begin his annual Florida migration this weekend (he’s just going down on his Kawasaki Ninja this year!) and I’m afraid he’s headed right for Damnation Alley. Are the shortages as far north as VA? Are they a problem in Florida itself? Hard to find any real info… just a lot of stories about lines and panics..

70. marisacat - 24 September 2008

oh dear, I had not heard of shortages other than where Ike hit…

71. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

69. I saw a headline the other day about gas shortages in 3 states. I’ll see if I can find it.

72. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 September 2008

This is pretty good: America’s Absurd Immigration Waiting Line

hat tip to boing boing for the link.

73. NYCO - 24 September 2008

Actually, Twitter is coming in handy for this sort of thing… I searched on “no gas” and it seems to me that TN, NC, and the Atlanta area are really hard hit… also parts of Alabama.

Nobody is reporting this story. Very weird.

I’m going to advise my father to stick to the coastal route, I’m not hearing about any problems in Virginia, Charleston SC or Savannah.

74. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

Hmmm…the AP has its own YouTube page. I didn’t know that. Anyway, they have a clip about the shortages (including Florida). Can’t get it to work because I have issues with some videos using Firefox but it might work for you.

75. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 September 2008

I’m afraid he’s headed right for Damnation Alley.

Tell him to watch out for teh giant scorpions!

76. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 September 2008

25 Harshest Reactions To the Wall Street Bailout

“The point is this is one of the most important irrevokable economic decisions we will ever make. Let’s make it in a state of panic.”

— Stephen Colbert

“The fox is guarding the hen house.”

— A heckler mocking Treasury secretary Henry Paulson

“For anybody out there living in cave, let me just say this. Congratulations. You’ve apparently made the soundest real estate investment possible.”

— Jon Stewart

77. marisacat - 24 September 2008

”Sen. DeMint said calls in his office are 100-1 against the plan”

78. marisacat - 24 September 2008

Tapper:

One GOP Congressman Tells ABC News

September 24, 2008 5:20 PM

I asked a Republican congressman about a report that, at a meeting of House Republicans this morning, only four indicated that they would support the package.

“That was a rhetorical question by Rep. Jim Barton, when most people had already left,” the congressman said.

The congressman told ABC News that constituent calls for Democrats and Republicans “are overwhelmingly against it. Most members don’t see it as an easy No or Yes. The more we learn, the more scared we get. Our general message to Bernanke and Paulson: show us plan B.”

– jpt

79. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 September 2008
80. NYCO - 24 September 2008

OK, a short survey of current Twitter messages produces the following map:

http://tinyurl.com/4melft

Atlanta, Nashville and Asheville are the worst.

81. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 September 2008
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83. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

78. Our general message to Bernanke and Paulson: show us plan B.

That’s what you need the morning after you’ve been screwed without any kind of protection.

84. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

I see Serious Bush Bot has shown up on the teevee. Quite the switch for Smirky Bush Cowboy who spoke at the UN this week.

85. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 September 2008
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87. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

Bubba’s on Larry King’s show. (Interview recorded yesterday.)

88. marisacat - 24 September 2008

Love that creep Clyburn saying “we need less drama” about McC.

Criminals, creeps and shits, all of them. This is the most hyped, over dramatic event in years.

89. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

Reuters: Rep. Barney Frank says House, Senate Democrats have an agreement on bailout bill, will meet with Republicans on Thursday

No link yet.

90. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

Conn. Democrats delay plan to censure Lieberman

HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — Connecticut Democrats, angry that Sen. Joe Lieberman is campaigning for the Republican presidential candidate and criticizing his own party’s nominee, agreed Wednesday to circulate a resolution to censure the veteran politician but won’t consider acting on it until after Election Day.

The state party’s central committee Wednesday agreed to send copies of the resolution to every Democratic town committee in the state. The resolution condemns Lieberman for speaking at the Republicans’ convention and backing John McCain.

Party officials said the group plans to get input from the town officials and revisit the issue in December.

I thought he was an “independent” anyway.

91. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 September 2008

Barney Frank and the rest of them should fuck off.

92. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

Oh:

While he calls himself an “independent Democrat” in the Senate, he remains a registered Democrat and has said he has no plans to change his party affiliation.

93. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

91. I think that’s the plan. Pass a bill and fuck off ASAP for a vacation.

94. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

N.Korea ousts U.N. monitors, to restart atom bomb plant

Alrighty then. But remember: it’s Iran that’s the “grave threat”.

95. marisacat - 24 September 2008

Cuple of hours ago TMP had a draft of a revised Bail Out plan (sent to them by someone on the Hill) up at their site. Now it is down.

96. marisacat - 24 September 2008

sigh TMP is Talking Points Memo.

97. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008
98. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

95. I think it was Frank who said tonite (somewhere – MSNBC?) that they were working on a plan that was 43 pages long.

99. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 September 2008

Y’allgenics: Louisiana Legislator Calls for Program for the Sterilization of Women on Welfare

State Rep. John LaBruzzo, R-Metairie had announced that he may have a way to help end multigenerational welfare families: pay women on welfare $1000 to have their Fallopian tubes tied. Since it is voluntary, he insists that it is not eugenics. It’s friendlier. More like Y’allgenics.

LaBruzzo warns that “We’re on a train headed to the future and there’s a bridge out. And nobody wants to talk about it.” Well, they are talking now.

LaBruzzo has objected that welfare recipients are reproducing at a faster rate than more affluent people and that society cannot handle that trend.

100. marisacat - 24 September 2008

94

well someone in the EU today said that Iran is ”close to” something or other. Forget what dodgey wording they used. “Nuclear capability” or some such.

They all seem to want to go to war.

101. marisacat - 24 September 2008

My best guess, the American people, such as they are, turn on the next president… because whatever glue and bandaids they pull out now is gonna fail.

102. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 September 2008

Student Suspended for Wearing Political Tee-Shirt in Colorado

Even at eleven years old, Daxx Dalton shares his father’s intense conservative views and displayed those views by wearing a tee-shirt to school that read “Obama is a terrorist’s best friend.” The fifth grader wore the tee-shirt on a day when the students at Aurora Frontier K-8 School were asked to wear red, white and blue to show their patriotism. The school suspended him for the infraction and created a first amendment controversy.

Daxx was given the choice of changing his shirt or turning it inside out — or be suspended. He took the last option.

103. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 September 2008

Nader & Barr joint statement:

“The fact that a candidate can call for changing the date of the debate only two days before it is scheduled indicates how easy it would be for the candidates to also call for the inclusion of the leading third-party and independent candidates, which would bring fresh ideas to the table on how our country can truly tackle this heavy challenge.”

104. marisacat - 24 September 2008

lol mcc called it off just as i g ot done setting up a debate post with a great pic and a how to watch the debate vid from mrs o.

but!! i bear him no ill will……………………….

lol

105. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

104. I’d sue him. You know how we on the left are all about keeping trial lawyers busy.

106. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

New word! “Hellabaloo” (Rep Kanjorski during today’s hearings)

107. CSTAR - 24 September 2008

# 97. Gee, maybe the two can get married and we can unite the kingdoms or something.

108. diane - 24 September 2008

99

John LaBruzzo, R-Metairie had announced that he may have a way to help end multigenerational welfare families: pay women on welfare $1000 to have their Fallopian tubes tied

Fucking stunning, worse than that Baroness implying old people need to be killed off (just not her and her circle of course),that catnip posted about

(no longer having to use a proxy re the problem I posted about above, not sure what it was, my computer or a wordpress gliche)

109. liberalcatnip - 24 September 2008

107. He does seem quite smitten to the point of embarrassment, doesn’t he? Can you imagine Angela Merkel saying the same thing about Obama? lol

110. liberalcatnip - 25 September 2008

Let’s play Debate Swap.

111. marisacat - 25 September 2008

LOL I snagged this from Geraghty at The Campaign Spot… reminds me of a few years ago when suddenly a lot of garrulous but vapid little congresscritters (they are all incipient Bidens) could say “cellulosic”

But I was a little surprised to read this in the Washington Post:

But Democratic leaders, who said they hope to approve the bailout plan by the end of the week, were having their own trouble rallying the rank and file. House Democrats summoned to a lunchtime meeting to discuss the proposal yesterday received a glossary of financial terms, such as “credit default swap” and “illiquid assets.”

And I am sure little rube Republicans got the same remedial class.

112. marisacat - 25 September 2008

neue thread…

LINK

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113. Intermittent Bystander - 25 September 2008

NYCO – I heard about Nashville gas shortages (via e-mail, on Saturday) from someone in NOLA, and saw an item on Atlanta fuel problems somewhere online. Apparently FEMA diverted gas deliveries from various areas to send the tankers to Houston, so as to avoid embarrassing optics after Ike.

Photo up top has given me a wicked earworm!

Father christmas, give us some money
Dont mess around with those silly toys.
Well beat you up if you dont hand it over
We want your bread so dont make us annoyed
Give all the toys to the little rich boys

Dont give my brother a steve austin outfit
Dont give my sister a cuddly toy
We dont want a jigsaw or monopoly money
We only want the real mccoy

Father christmas, give us some money
Well beat you up if you make us annoyed
Father christmas, give us some money
Dont mess around with those silly toys

But give my daddy a job cause he needs one
Hes got lots of mouths to feed
But if you’ve got one, I’ll have a machine gun
So I can scare all the kids down the street

(The Kinks!)

114. marisacat - 25 September 2008

IB

great doggerel…

Love it:

Father christmas, give us some money
Well beat you up if you make us annoyed


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