LOL 21 January 2009
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, 2010 Mid Terms, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, WAR!.trackback
Snagged this pic from Politico, the tag there called it “Dawn over the Capitol”, it was taken at the Mid-Western States Ball.
I caught a news segment last night, a touring of various smallish, in peoples’ homes, parties to celebrate the new pretzel… Over and over I saw a framed image of Obster on display, propped on the fireplace mantle often, almost always a Fairey or Fairey derived image, dominating the room.
Whiff of Mao is all I can say.
And some non-helpful prattle that he “was born to lead us”… Over the past few days think I have heard that at least 100 times. Anyone hear themselves?
Sorry to be blunt, that sort of thing just sets me off. Couple of years ago I had so hoped to be rid of the God-ordained, Jesusing stuff. From the Unitary. Too many faithful R willing to say George was “selected by God”.
Pretty basic article at Politico, on seven reasons to be a skeptic. VandeHei and Harris. No 7 is (said in other words) that we have a tongue out, courtier 4th estate. And how. Loved hearing, just the past couple of days, media creeps anxious to say that they never liked Bush, nor he them. But they sure facilitated.
From No 1 on the list:
[E]veryone was saying the exact same things about the two economic geniuses of the 1990s: Robert Rubin and Alan Greenspan. Now Rubin has been reduced to making excuses for his involvement in high-risk investments and for helping oversee the demise of Citigroup, which lost $10 billion in the past three months alone. The onetime oracular Greenspan has admitted to Congress that his once-revered economic philosophy had “a flaw,” and many blame him for turning a blind eye to the housing bubble.
As it happens, the Obama economic team is full of Rubin protégés, including Geithner and Summers. Geithner had to recently admit he failed to pay taxes on a big chunk of income — as part of his confirmation process to run tax policy and the Internal Revenue Service. As president of the New York Fed, he was integrally involved in the decision not to rescue Lehman Bros., which many see, in retrospect, as a grievous error.
The reception of the Obama economic team recalls the reception of President George W. Bush’s foreign policy team eight years ago. Many Democrats applauded the experience of Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell. …snipwhip…
Oh yes, Colin was to be the moderate. He was perceived as “better”. Why? Anyone check his history? Just as hapless Americans assumed that Poodle Blair would “rein Bush in”.
Carry on… kiss the hem.
In related news, Podesta, CoS for the transition, is arguing that Obster keep not only his Blackberry… but internet and email access.
Oh.. Popcorn! Tons of it.
Intermittent Bystander posted this right at the end of the last hread… wanted to carry it forward:
Wall Street Journal execs got white-powder letters today, with Knoxville, TN, postmarks.
Talks to an empy room, mission accomplished
United Nations Briefing on the Situation in Gaza
Monday
But alot of the foreign press, is all over the fact that Israel broke the ceasefire first, and rockets from Gaza did not fly till Israel put Gaza in quarantine in 2006.
BTW – Speaking of birthrights, etc., the Albany Times-Union blog noted that Princess Caroline was missing from the festivities yesterday, and it has a clip of Paterson chatting with Couric and Schiefer at CBS about the Hill replacement. The T-U blogger called the interview a “fan dance,” but among other remarks, Paterson said he still hasn’t completely decided (and wishes the pick weren’t up to him), expressed his dismay that all the hoopla about one candidate had crowded out public discussion of many others, elected and unelected, and acknowledged that Cuomo, Maloney, and 8 or 10 others were among those worthies still in the running.
re: the halo picture
I noticed yesterday that one of the preachers said of Obama, “he’s got the whole world in his hands” and I saw a clip this am of the church service where a choir sang that song and the teevee talking head said that was appropriate for Obamalama. Well, when I learned that song “his hands” meant “G*d’s hands”.
We are dripping in Jesusing. Was not kidding about wishing I could drink. All the slobber that Only God Could Make White People Vote for Obama. From Lowery and others… Rev Fauntroy.. is another, from the CR era. It all smacks of flim flam.
That said, I did like the patois poetry, so called prophetic tradition from Lowery yesterday, that has some up in arms today. Offended by words like “red” “brown” ”yellow” and so on. I thought it was one fo the few minutes of truth.
Other than that, people DID enjoy the day, so did Ob and so did Mrs Ob. Which is fine. AND SO WHAT? Is my feeling. I am not on earth to bolster the already bolstered.
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I did see this in a thread at Lenin and laughed out loud…
You know speaking of the Mao whifferies and so on………..
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Think Holder is being held up as well…
Leahy just called the Holder nom “historic”
SO OVER with the bullshit. It’s NOT.
4 – Noticed that “whole world in his hands” cheeziness this morning too. (And you know the little bitty babies are the next thing mentioned in the song, too, right?)
(::Wipes barf-speckled shoes.::)
On the bright side, I thought the dude who sang (the obligatory) Amazing Grace did a damn nice job of it. To be fair, the Obsters seemed much more into that one, too, I thought.
Funny watching the priests and cardinals and whatever enduring the various wimmens who spoke at the pulpit. Har-de-har-har boys! As one of my sisters is wont to say, Suck it up and deal!
IHT on the banking minuet. So screwed!
Who knows.
Ho ho. More discomfiture among the Godfathers!
Went looking for the Amazing Grace singer’s name and look what I found instead, first thing: Orthodox group: Rabbi violated rules by joining National Prayer Service.
Geithner didn’t seem fond of the “good bank”, “bad bank” scenario this am. I had no idea what they were talking about at the time.
7. I just had CNN on in the background, muted while I listened to the Geithner hearing but I saw the choir singing and wanted to find out what the song was. I had no use for the rest of the show. Church is church and it seems the older and more atheist I get (if that’s possible), the more bizarre those ancient rituals appear.
More:
9.
Oh FFS. Get over yourselves. Sheesh.
So what happens to the errant rabbi?
Pack your bags. You’re going on a guilt trip.
11.
What is this? Fantasy Island?
I need a nap.
Tapper has a whole entry on the prayer service this am. Pretty stultifying, imo. But go for it.
He also found the FF (First Family) a pair of shelter Golden Doodles, out of state. Apparently Golden Doodles don’t necessarily come up all that much in the shelters. LOL it was my thought some weeks ago, get two dogs. Two girls two dogs.
A UK paper as well is saying, get going on that dog.
oh FFS
Over and over he gives the militaristic right what they want. Just like Prop 8.
Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:
President Obama To Sign Executive Order Thursday to Close Gitmo Within a Year [4:20 p.m. ET]
LOL Just a few days ago they were floating “four years”.
“This is my first phone call to a foreign leader and I’m making it only hours after I took office,” he quoted Obama as telling Abbas.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hw6P-WqJYGTZ3oi74UnpBSZLKynw
14 – Thanks. Tapper piece sez Amazing Grace was performed by Dr. Wintley Phipps, President of the U.S. Dream Academy in Columbia, Maryland.
Don’t think my high-school guidance counselor ever mentioned that institution!
Anyway, I see a video his rendition today is available here: Link.
Surely they’ll hold the doggie debut for a news week when they really need it?
catnap at 13 – Someone in the comments at the JTA site agrees with you.
More on Phipps at Wiki. (A Trinidad-Tobagan Seventh Day Adventist who moved to Montreal in his youth, and quite the bipartisan speaker and performer, as well as Songs of Freedom music publisher/recording co.)
IB
That’s my guess on the doggie policy as well. They may not be able to work the pecs in but they can work in the marriage, the girls AND the doggie.
It will be a while… Mother and Father earlier said “maybe spring”. Lotta chit chat about house training. Diversion, there is pet staff as well.
Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:
Senate Confirms Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State [4:32 p.m. ET]
so now just toe tapping on Holder and Geithner?
Someone, somewhere is probably breeding Golden Doodles at 2-week intervals as we speak. How hard could it be to launder a couple of puppies through an animal shelter once the call comes through on the Snoopyphone?
Still, they really oughta go with a mutt. Healing via DNA, dontchaknow!
From the TU:
It’s been my take the Obsters, tall class, actually don’t want a dog. But were told it would be worthwhile to co-opt the children likely begging for one (I mean, NO PETS IN THAT HOUSE, none) and go for it… but that there is no enthusiasm.
it will be a while.. and yes they sure could launder a convenient labragoldendoodle thru a shelter. I imagine Tapper has thought of that one, tho I sure did not…
From updated AP story:
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A little something for your afternoon coffee, Mcat.
oh I forgot about Frangelico… I could try that… I think i am down to the sugared cordials… The sugar likely swamps the liquor…
28 – Well, if that’s your working theory, you have your choice of fine monastic spirits!
(I’m on the hypoglycemic side myself, so things like cordials and rum and bourbon tend to do me in.)
Rogoff on TNH… that the Obster crew were ginger about the details of their economic plans “for fear of sparking a PANIC, before being in place to deal with it”.
So much reform. Reform the reform. Decry the damned Bail Out which was a CON… to sell the next con.
Could someone just fucking fix it? However long it takes.
Now they are talking about “how fast the economy is deteriorating”.
Gotcha. Please catch up… Please?
Had some… interesting private exchanges with several people today that really make me wonder about a speculation I once had… that after Bush, the free speech climate in this country is just going to continue to worsen.
People seem to feel just as disinclined to say what they really feel these days, as they did right after 9/11. Maybe we’ve exchanged one form of oppressive jingoism for another flavor.
Too damned weird… Telegraph, on a town in Paraquay where Mengele kept on with twin experiments.. producing twins at least.
Maybe we’ve exchanged one form of oppressive jingoism for another flavor.
People are inured to it by now.. and there is an undercurrent of “Don’t contribute to Obama failing, we are in deep trouble. Hush up”. there is even an undertone of “Don’t HURT him”… as if criticising him is wounding him.
I am more interested in PEOPLE not being wounded.
And you know, he is God.
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I will definitely look into it….and while i never favored the sugar cordials.. any sugared port in a storm. Awful to lose wine, beer champagne and Campari. gah.
Chartreuse has a very herbal, almost medicinal flavor – not to everyone’s taste – and it’s definitely downright sticky in the sugar dept. I seem to recall it producing a slightly otherworldly buzz (appropriately enough). Probably not an ideal flavor for spiking coffee.
But the history – like the liquids, green or yellow – is very colorful!
Other options for coffee, of course, are the usual Irish and Mexican suspects. And there’s a Greek liquor made from wine and brandy and herbs (including rose petals) called Metaxa, which is rather nice.
Good luck!
Whoa . . . . breaaakkkking . . . . CSPAN just had a banner saying Caroline is pulling her name from contention for US Senate, and NYT is confirming. Teddy’s health is the reason given.
Kennedy Is Said to Withdraw Senate Bid.
If true, NYCO and lucid, we may have dodged a dynasty!
Yeah just read it, IB…
I’m sorry about Teddy’s worsening health problems; however, it does make excellent cover for her to not have to face the embarrassment of not being picked. Things didn’t go as planned and arranged…
When are carpetbaggers going to realize… trying to invade New York is like trying to invade Mother Russia. She should have talked to William Weld first.
Unless you’re Hillary, of course.
LOL That is such a load of hokum from Missy C.
Good lord.
Anything to be rid of dynasty tho. Blessed we are!
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yeah Chartreuse is not my cup of tea… too intense a flavor, iirc from a long long time ago… Will take a peek at the Liqueur section at Safeway… trying to pull myself together for a delivery tomorrow.
excellent cover for her to not have to face the embarrassment of not being picked
Ding ding ding!
Call the Trinity Church bellringers! Let’s have another full peeeeeeeeeal!
LOL re William Weld!
I wondered if she might get it just on that big promotion of being a friend of Obster… apparently not.
Well, I just checked the Big Orange Buoy Ball, and kos has a NY Post link for this snippet:
Her stunning move comes as sources revealed that Paterson had intended to appoint her to the now-vacant seat today.
But that could easily be Bloombergian cover-smog.
(Surprising number of commenters in thread saying too bad, etc. Kid kos is tickled nearly pink, I’m sure, and says he’s got fingers crossed for anybody-but-Andrew Cuomo, too, for maximum democraceeeee in 2010.)
excellent cover for her to not have to face the embarrassment of not being picked
My first thought too.
Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:
Obama Takes Oath of Office a Second Time, Because of Chief Justice Roberts’ Mistake [7:54 p.m. ET]
Well, apparently no one’s told Kerry Kennedy about all this…
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/01/21/2009-01-21_caroline_kennedy_withdraws_her_name_from.html
Obama Takes Oath of Office a Second Time, Because of Chief Justice Roberts’ Mistake
oh brother! Oh well, I suppose Rush has got to throw away his playbook for the next 4 years now.
47 – Apparently it ain’t only cousins that are the last to know!
Paterson, the source said, told Kerry Kennedy “he hasn’t heard it and he’s made no decision that would provoke her to leave. He said he’s been getting calls and denying it.”
Go New York State!
CLUSTERfucccckkkk!
Re O’Bama – smooth move with the oath-cakes!
Apparently Ms Caroline is “AWOL”…
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/
According to multiple sources, the candidate is AWOL at the moment, and everyone close to her is blindsided by this bombshell. It appears someone might have jumped the gun early, and this news might not be, well, news.
Apparently, Fareed Zakaria doesn’t think the O administration can walk and chew gum at the same time – saying on CNN that Obama shouldn’t jump into the ME peace process (fix the economy first) and that he’d be wise not to stake his “prestige” on it unless he’s going to spend his capital by putting his foot down and spelling out the “final” (my way or the highway) peace plan immediately. (Like he’d do that.)
Well I hope Miss Caroline makes up her mind soon because the news is spreading across every New York newspaper website like a prairie flame. Very interesting… Nobody does clusterfuck like the Empire State! Nobody!
mattes – 21 January 2009
Breaking: Iglesias to prosecute
terror cases
Madman…comments? Good right?
He seemed to be a pretty straight shooter, and ethical, but it would be hard to tell without a lot more research.
The government mistreated those people so badly that there is no way to make any kind of remotely legal prosecution. All they can do is try to find a place to move them, IF they’re serious about ending and making up for Gitmo, and that’s a BIG if.
Maybe she’s on a Mediterranean island with a hot European royal!
Calling the papa ratzies! Or Papa Ratzy! Quick!
From the NYDN link that NYCO posted (the one at commetn 47).. it sure sounded as tho Paterson was not discouraging spec in the past few days, even with Dem party people, that she was the likely pick. hmm.
Wonder what is up.
It is fully national news, was on the local 5pm news here. Not getting that cat back in the bag.
Shee… now MSNBC reporting she hasn’t withdrawn. What a clusterfuck! Paterson cannot pick her now, he simply cannot.
Please Paterson, just go with Cuomo or Suozzi and be done with it.
Awww. It’s just like Cinderella!
Or something.
New Theory! Maybe this is a roooooose! Nice little kefuffle to buy the Obster some time on, you know, World Peace!
Code Name: Amazing Diss Grace.
Hmmm…maybe somebody out there coughcouchCuomocoughcough thought it might be a good idea if Caroline spent more time with her family and leaked the idea.
Apologies for blathericity today and please be assured, all, that I won’t be this chatty going forward. I’m just a little hopped up with this new spirit of helping out and doing my part
to ruin aforementioned Empire State
this very morning.
That said, have to say the web routine for filing a claim was far less painful than I remember the old phone menu system, the first (aka last) time I had to (literally) call on the jobborific insurance. Was dreading a repeat of same.
(::Sends ms_xeno promised Wednesday bottle of peppermint schnapps, with a bonus box of fine cocoa as reward for her 2-hour gubmint telephone travail..::)
Ya know? Paterson should just pick his friend. He should pick Suozzi. Suozzi is known statewide, he had good exposure campaigning against Spitzer (another plus!), I don’t know about his legislative temperament (he’d make a better governor frankly) but when times get tough you can count on your personal friends.
60. The state’s fund is broke? Wow. I didn’t even know you did EI by state down there. Ours is federal.
I heard the other day that Oregon’s unemployment rate is 9%. That seems awfully high.
The NYT is not altering their story online. Oh, they have to be taking tons of shit from The Compound for that.
My theory: Caroline really wants out. Is too afraid to tell The Family. Maybe was even going to call Paterson. But too scared. Now she’s on the run, going middle age crazy in Uncle Teddy’s red Ferrari. No one can find her. No one will ever find her. Her long golden hair streams in the January breeze. She knows she could catch pneumonia and die, but she just doesn’t care anymore. Just. Doesn’t. Care. Something in her broke loose tonight, loose and free like a scared wild bird…
Apologies for blathericity today and please be assured, all, that I won’t be this chatty going forward.
Please.. post just as you like…
46 – the funny thing, according to Nina Totenberg on NPR when I was listening this morning, is that several Presidents didn’t actually recite the oath, merely saying “I will” after the Chief Justice read it, and many believe that the Oath isn’t really necessary since the 20th Amendment passed.
According to Wikipedia, it’s been been flubbed before.
My fav?
Fuck all this imaginary friend bullshit.
60, 62
CA Unemployemtn Insur probably broke in a few weeks. They told us about 4 months ago, it might make it to Feb.
And the layoffs roll on.
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Our official unemployment rate in CA is nearly 9%. Lower in the Bay Area but state wide that high
Accidental smiley at 60! No grin intended there.
63 – Thanks, as always, for the hospitality.
Madman – and lucid and others – the conversation here last night about the inauguration covered a lot of familiar-ly mixed territory for me, as well. The respect for (and sadness associated with) others’ rightful claims for celebrating the White House ENTRANCE, the deep (and bitterly long-awaited) satisfaction (spit!) upon THE EXIT (much eclipsed by the entering fanfare), etc. I think all of that contributed to my own reaction of utter exhaustion last night, once I knew it was really done.
Don’t know if anyone mentioned it here, or if it’s been fully verified by the records today, but I saw several TV heads say the inauguration went off without a single incident resulting in arrest.
Too bad none of those same TV heads had the wits (or spine) to note the irony, given the outgoing administration’s many documented crimes. . . . but as people pointed out last night, maybe there’s hope for international proceedings.
As for domestic repercussions, I saw that Atrios had an item today indicating that Levin will be in charge of Post-BushCo investigations.
Not encouraging.
Anyway, it was good to read all your words the next morning.
Calls for open source government
67 – one good thing about yesterday, the video of the crowd singing “hey hey hey, goodbye” as that fucking war criminal took off in the helicopter. Made me laugh.
64 – I vote for a phone book or dictionary, just to make the point. Or how ’bout an Atlas of the nation? Scale it down a little.
New info on NYT…
Just before 7 p.m. Wednesday, Errol Cockfield, Mr. Paterson’s press secretary, said the governor had referred to the assertion that Ms. Kennedy was withdrawing as “just the rumor of the day.” More than an hour later, Mr. Cockfield asked that that statement not be published, but neither he nor the governor’s communications director, Risa B. Heller, would respond to questions about Ms. Kennedy.
Hm.
lol… Dad’s grow-op busted after baby dials 9-1-1
Give me a C! Give me an L! Give me a U- S – T – E – R!
Etc!
But NYCO, don’t you agree that this has to get a lot juicier before it ranks up there with Spitzer’s sky-scrapin’ dive?
Where are the photos?
I wanna see the hot European royal! Extra points for a Monagasque prince! Let’s get Grace Kelly in the mix. Fuggedaboud the Windsors already.
TDS was good last nite – a welcome laugh to end the day. I was going to post a link to Stewart’s skewering of Obamalama’s speech but videos for we canucks show up on a different site. You yanks can find it on the show’s site.
With that mystery solved, officers began inspecting the residence and soon discovered a 500-plant marijuana grow operation.
Excuse me? Did they have a warrant for satisfying their curiosity about any other little thing? Or did stoner pop just let ‘em wander?
You know that baby is never gonna live this down! Good memoir potential, though. I Was a Narc in Diapers.
re CKS …Funny thing is- they could flip this story around tomorrow, use it to reintroduce her, come out as a “fighter” for her ‘family values” blah blah blah, Ob say she answered “the call” in his campaign, yadayada…
The real question, as far as I’m concerned,
is what it will do to my blog reputation…LOL.
IB, nothing could ever top Spitzer in the annals.
I will never forget the complete and total sensation of “What The Fuck” I felt at the moment I read it. Wow!
Oh, Suuurrrrreee they are:
DOJ Giving ‘Serious Thought’ to Probing Bush’s Torture Policy
Special counsel in moderation, I think.
UN Chief Shocked at Gazan Destruction | Reuters
66. Our official unemployment rate in CA is nearly 9%. Lower in the Bay Area but state wide that high
I thought Ahnold was going to fix everything. Are you telling me that he turned out to be one of those economic girly men?
Last I heard, Ahnuld was gonna quit signing unemployment and disability checks altogether, thanks to fiscal crisis.
Did he get over himself on that idea yet?
Your ass is definitely on the line, BHHM. But don’t you dare try to tap any old-school Hail Mary juju for Caroline, or I’m never speaking to you again.
Hive
80. Last I heard, Ahnuld was gonna quit signing unemployment and disability checks altogether, thanks to fiscal crisis.
WTF? And what would happen to the needy recipients then? Or was he trying to force the feds’ hands?
LOL. IB Your ass is definitely on the line, BHHM. But don’t you dare try to tap any old-school Hail Mary juju for Caroline, or I’m never speaking to you again.
Patterson better fuckin nominate her.
Or I’m gonna be shipwrecked, marooned with DavefromQueens somewhere crying over what might have been…
Then, Israel would come up…LOL.
Religion is a mental illness, example umpity million:
Russians Strengthen Their Faith and a Tradition With an Icy Water Plunge
IB, more LOL
I have no doubt this ,eh, somewhat modified Hail Mary
is currently making it rounds…….
And so forth….LOL.
So what would you call the people who take ice water plunges for no reason at all? Sane?
they’re nuts too!
Sorry!
One from BHHM, one from IB and two from Madman… out of Moderation…
sorry for the delay…………….
Marisa have you tried Ouzo or Tuaca? (I like both on ice, or chilled).
CKS out , super duper confirmeth MSNBC…Crickets on WaPo yet…
LOL. I also thought Iowa was going to go Edwards, Ob, then Hillary.
Most bizarre headline du jour: Former French President Chirac hospitalised after mauling by his clinically depressed poodle
thanks diane… not tasted ouzo in a long long time and never tried tuaca… will give it a look…
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caroline, in, out, round about. apparently, so the story goes, she wavered after releasing a press release. But now is out.
Geesh, spared a loon.
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at least the poodle puddle did not make Chirac sneeze!
For my next prediction, I see her taking Teddy’s seat in Mass.
Do I mean in Church or New England?
Could go either way. LOL.
Schumer & Tapper on Charlie Rose. I just switched over there and luckily missed most of Schumy. (Can I call him that? Schumy?)
This last line from Politico on the Caroline delusterfuck….
(Can I call him that? Schumy?)
You wouldn’t want to be anti-Schumytic now, would you?
Obama’s press secretary is one of the Bee Gees? K3wl.
“delusterfuck”
Good one!
My mother many years ago pounced on some comment Jackie made in an interview, asked what JFK might have done if he lost in ’60 (tho cash in shoeboxes made sure he did not, LOL) and she sort of distractedly said, “Oh, I suppose, write another book”.
So… there is a thought for Miss C.
Love how high office is such a desultory endeavor for them. mmm maybe I will, or … I won’t… Maybe they could all help us out and stay in bed, reading novels and eating bon bons.
You wouldn’t want to be anti-Schumytic now, would you?
pa dum pum
From the politico story on Caroline:
In particular, the governor’s counsel had become increasingly frustrated with Kennedy’s interactions with his office and had become annoyed by her use of lawyers as intermediaries when they asked follow-up questions on a 28-page questionnaire Paterson sent candidates, the person said.
Well, if you’re gonna botch it – Botch it BIG. LMAO.
What a fucked up mess. A round of lackluster Democrats pointing fingers over a failed, never really started, ended with a sput-sput-sputter nothing run.
Could someone blame The Lady Caroline for being incomprehensible and assuming something she was unfit for (you’ve got to be able to go out and meet people, to some extent) was hers. Geesh.
The whole thing is pathetic.
It’s a short read.. and a real laugh. Ben Smith tracked the CSK story as ti moved, from the first up, NYP onward.
Hilarioius! A story of updates…
There is also a tequila/damiana liquor thats sweet but which also has a clear sharp bite that i think cuts the cloying tendency fairly well (it’s still sweet!) Keep in the freezer. drink from a glass!
Agavero
also IB, i found a good explanation of the Background and history of Douchi, if you don’t mind reading low res images. I had the misimpression it was a cooked black bean pickled in soy sauce, but I see now its usually a koji type ferment with soybeans (although a wild ferment is also mentioned). the article doesn’t mention the length of fermentation/aging but i suppose it might be a while. red miso, which i see mentioned as a substitute in a few recipes online, ferments for at least a year minimum iirc. the article then mentions sun drying which sounds exactly like what you describe. flavorful and saltilicious! thanks for the info, will see about getting some for kitchen experimentations!
nu post…
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BHHM – Battle of the rosaries! And St. Patrick’s team goes down!
bayprairie – Thanks for the bean info! Had no idea they were soybeans to start with! Hope you can find ‘em in your local Asian provisioner.
I gave a carton to a friend for his birthday, once, and thought underwhelmed at the handover, called to thank me profusely a few weeks later. (Another friend once claimed that the veg stew got her high, and blamed the magic beans therein!)
Very interesting to hear they’re considered a folk remedy for various ailments. Definitely a good item for the pantry . . . hopefully no breaking news stories about melanine or whatever will ensue!
from my reading on this subject fermented foods (unpasteurized) are probiotic to a great degree. i’m not sure what effects the sun drying would have on the living animacules that create this particular “style” of ferment but i would suspect they just dehydrate and can reinvigorate upon contact with water. of course cooking past a certain temp. would render the probiotic benefit moot, due to the inability of the organisms to survive, but the actions of the culture on the bean itself prior to heating would remain. plus i believe i have read that the enzymes are mostly unaffected by the heat as well.
for example when milk is fermented (kefir) its often possible for mildly lactose-intolerant folks to drink it without any ill-effects at all. this happens because the complex sugar lactose-intolerant people cant digest is broken down into simpler form by the (in this case) bacteria. if i were to scald the kefir, or bake with it, the bacteria don’t survive but the effects they produced remain. i think about all we “get” of that philosophy here in the west is the suggestion from the doctor to eat yogurt when you’re on antibiotics, but the same thing holds true for almost any natural, or cultured, fermented food thats not been puposely heated to kill. and even when heated to kill the food is reportedly easier to digest.
and also saltilicious!
i keep mentioning miso cause out of all these many different soy ferments its the only one i know much about. but the more i read the more i keep bumping into stuff like this:
of course most of the info is anecdotal and often comes from true believers, but there’s somehting special about fermenting that bean. therefore i’m conducting experiments upon myself! YUM! also the houston has a large asian population, 250 thou or so. im sure its out there. my enemy’ll be disorganization, as always.