High water… 19 March 2009
Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, California / Pacific Coast, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems.trackback

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Aqua alta – Venice – 2008
Well I did not say it, Roubini did… The United States of Ponzi
A reporter contacted me recently with the following question:
“I am a reporter, and I am doing a story on Bernard Madoff’s life after pleading guilty. As part of this, I was wondering if you could comment on what significance he will have in the history of this period. Will he represent more than a scamster who stole a lot of money from a lot of people? As Bernie Ebbers and Ken Lay came to embody corporate greed and deceit, what will Madoff symbolize?”
Here is my answer fleshed out in full:
Americans lived in a “Made-off” and Ponzi bubble economy for a decade or even longer. Madoff is the mirror of the American economy and of its over-leveraged agents: a house of cards of leverage over leverage by households, financial firms and corporations that has now collapsed in a heap.
When you put zero down on your home, and you thus have no equity in your home, your leverage is literally infinite and you are playing a Ponzi game.
And the bank that lent you, with zero down, a NINJA (no income, no jobs and assets) liar loan that was interest-only for a while, with negative amortization and an initial teaser rate, was also playing a Ponzi game.
And private equity firms that did over a $1 trillion of leveraged buyouts (LBOs) in the last few years with a debt-to-earnings ratio of 10 or above were also Ponzi firms playing a Ponzi game.
He did not stop there.. ahem:
A government that will issue trillions of dollars of new debt to pay for this severe recession and socialize private losses may risk becoming a Ponzi government if–in the medium term–it does not return to fiscal discipline and debt sustainability.
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Madoff may now spend the rest of his life in prison. U.S. households, financial and non-financial firms, and government may spend the next generation in debtor’s prison having to tighten their belts to pay for the losses inflicted by a decade or more of reckless leverage, over-consumption and risk-taking.
Americans, let us look at ourselves in the mirror: Madoff is us and Mr. Ponzi is us!
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Yesterday Ob compared the AIGs to suicide bombers. Yes, he wowed ‘em in OC CA with that…
[E]ven though the deposits might be guaranteed, you’ve got the entire economy resting on that credit.”
The president said, “It was the right thing to do, even though it’s infuriating, even though it makes you angry because you’re thinking, ‘I was responsible and these folks are irresponsible and somehow I’m paying for them.’ The same is true with AIG. It was the right thing to do to step in.”
“Here’s the problem,” Mr. Obama said, “It’s almost like they’ve got — they’ve got a bomb strapped to them and they’ve got their hand on the trigger. You don’t want them to blow up. But you’ve got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger.”
hmmm. Might try listening to himself someday.
My own allusion, the nation swallowed a load of bombs over the years. The triggers went off.
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In other tangential, completely unrelated, nothing to do with anything, news, there are demonstrations planned in San Francisco today… for the 6th anniversary of the start of the war. The second war… the Iraq section of the Big War. Long War… what ever they call that particular bomb we swallowed. I prefer to phrase it, the 7th year of war.
Oh I am sure it all comes out OK in the end. The president said so yesterday. No worries. God bless…













Asia Times:
There is mounting evidence that China’s central bank is undertaking the process of divesting itself of longer-dated US Treasuries in favor of shorter-dated ones.
i hope they manage to pull it off. no sense having the entire globe in meltdown. throwing another billion victims onto the pile won’t make things any less painful here. hell of a needle to thread.
I agree.. and it is to be expected.
More fuel for the Outrage Bonfires this morning:
CBS gets into Citigroup’s construction-in-progress of a spankin’ new $10M executive suite, and
House Rep. John Lewis sez a review of the tax records for the 23 biggest TARP-ball recipients shows that 13 of the corps(es) owe millllllions in back taxes, despite having had to sign contracts asserting they had no tax delinquencies. (However, the Treasury Dept did NOT require them to submit documentation proving it.) Two of the bailed-out firms owed more than $100 million each.
Why dontcha do that, Congressman, and get back to us with the frickin’ answer? Don’t forget to name names.
interesting about the building.. in ’91 (that cash insecurity go round!) GS abandoned a building they had fought years to build.. forget where in lower Manhattan.. not sure they had broken ground. NYers might remember better than I…
(However, the Treasury Dept did NOT require them to submit documentation proving it.)
I’m sorry but this just gets funnier and funnier by the minute! Holy fucking crap, Batman.
Linky-links:
Citigroup’s Suite Deal: After Taking Billions In Bailout Money, Bank Spending Millions To Renovate Executive Offices
13 firms receiving federal bailout owe back taxes
Geesh I went to take a shower (the mice said I could) and so much news popped.
Gah.. I see two companies taking bail out owe more than 100 mil
They ALREADY have a bail out, right there.
UH-oh . . . mouse family has annexed the bathroom?
Like I said last week or whenever – watch out for paddlers! Keep bail-out tools at the ready!
no… not that I know of.. usually all I have are Daddy Long Legs in teh tub… I corner them with a bit of paper towelling and drop them on a plant in the window..
No the mice seem to be keeping to one room. gah.
HA!
john lewis needs to get over being delicate:
He did not name the firms owing back taxes.
What a shock, Madoff still wants bail.
IMF deepens foreshadowing of global gloom: World economy ‘to shrink in 2009′
Ouch, ouch!
But all is well in WallyWorld, which will show its kinder, gentler side today: Wal-Mart awarding $2 billion to U.S. hourly employees.
Obama’s diplomatic gift to UK leader fubared by DRM
Oopsie.
when that whole flap came down… and the Browns brought a series of gifts to Ob… and series of gifts for the duaghters as well.. foor which they got the DVDs and two plastic plane models of AF 1 from some WH gift shop (for the Brown sons)… and there was some wonder if they were even playable in the UK.
Seems they are not.
brown should have a multiregion unlocked DVD player anyways. only way to get around the IP bastards.
{swoopf. }
Lawmakers Ask What Treasury Secretary Knew
{swoopf. swoopf.}
Workers at AIG Financial Products watch Hill telecast with fear and anger.
{.ssSssfffwoopff.} eh. yih…
nih. yih. {{EXXHAling}}
Attorney General Signals Shift in Marijuana Policy
Yooooou wannnah Hidt?
Those fuckin villagers man, are fuckin scary.
This is about all anyone needs to see
when considering investing in the United States.
Ya know, following our lead…
Jeezis Chrifst.
This looks like it’s quite the book: China’s last eunuch spills sex secrets
It seems to me that huge bonuses are more about protecting “trade secrets” than they are rewarding employees. A way of holding them hostage to a company so they don’t go over to another company. Because, after all, none of these financial companies actually do any innovating. They’re all scuffling after the same dime, all competing with each other in a closed system. They’re tribes, raiding parties of Viking clans.
That’s why they keep spouting inanities about “holding on to talent.” It’s just “holding on to people who know our internal workings.”
raiding parties… GANGS… I agree…
Can we just prepare the Viking funeral boats and ship them off to a water born funeral pyre… that would work for me.
Will this never end… Geithner I think admits to the adjusted truth that Dodd told. Second version. maybe it was third.
Who knows.
I really think Obamalama would gain more support if he’d lay hands at those town halls and HEAL people. Ramen. Halleljuah.
If it matters…
I watched a clip of that. Geithner said he wasn’t the one who made the suggestion to Dodd. It was other treasury dept staffers/officials. Not that he doesn’t think it was the right thing to do though. He just distanced himself from the direct conversation (while expressing support for Dodd).
I believe they call that building plausible deniability.
Gosh Golly. Josh sounds a teeny weeny weeny upset. Or, felt he needed to display some exasperation and incredulity. heh.
Well it is a nice idea… anyway.
LOL.
Pope’s Condom Stance Sparks Row
Someones having fun at the BBC.
After a particularly trying day in the job-seeking trenches, I’d like to send this out to ms_xeno, wherever she may be.
Hey hey IB… very sorry to hear of trying day… in the trenches. And I will send ms xeno that comment…
Thanks, MCat!
Haven’t seen bayprairie stopping by lately either, and am hoping all is well with her too.
I dropped bayprairie an email a few days ago… I worried as she had, a few weeks ago, mentioned a preliminary meeting with HR at her place for info on layoffs that might be coming up… have not heard back yet, but she always checked her email just from time to time…
So, I am hoping everything is OK…
Fingers crossed.
May spring bring healthy foraging for all!
Golden Snowflake in trouble? (Gawd and Ganswein will save him!)
My guess is they want public rumblings to protect the collection plate, the “US purse”. We may not be the continent with the most Catholics, but they love our cash collection, which I read is the highest. Those heathen Europeans… and all that.
Holy Talkin Jesus Jewelry! It sounds like somebody commandeered the Vatican Press Office.
Speaking of Golden Snowflakes, I slept through most of the Leno appearance, but apparently Obama made a joke about his bowling, with a reference to the Special Olympics? (Revisionist has a diary at FSZ.)
No mention of it in this AP account: `Tonight’ is friendly turf for President Obama.
Ah – I see CBS has a different AP item and is running with it. Obama’s ‘Special’ Bowling Skills. Includes a bit of mile-high damage control by deputy press secretary.
Can’t remember where I read it a couple days ago… maybe somewehre out here… that of course by Wednesday,, the script for the appearacne on Leno was negotiatied, the topics approved and the jokes written. Obama is so risk averse that it does not surprise…
So one wonders. He wants the Beavis and Butthead vote, I guess.
I wish pretzels were outspoken about things that matter rather than dumb, politically tone deaf jokes about other people. Whoever, whatever group.
I hate how “PC” things have gotten, but he seems clueless that people do ”hear” him. Or, he does really want the couch potato dumb fuck white adolescent forever vote.
Ugh. I assumed it was just a klutzy throwaway line, but if everything was so very pre-scripted . . . seems rather a risky dogwhistle to Beavis and co.
If Bush had made that special olympics comment, I would have called him an insensitive asshole. The same goes for Obama.
Can’t remember which [undit I read it at this am.. but apparently Obama’game would nto qualify for the Special Olympics Bowling League. Seems they score in the 170 – 180 range and one SO bowler has bowled three perfect games.
Which, knowing nothing, I assume means you can throw the ball down teh center lane and take out all the pins, in one go.
Uh Oh. Maybe that Orthodox prick NY Speaker of the House Shelly Silver is going to get indicted along with Alan Hevesi for NY Pension Fund Steerage. This is a big case. Andrew Cuomo is either going to become a Rock Star or Get his ass killed if he moves to take down Silver in New York. Hevesi was Silver’s boy. And Silver is shnazz deep in Pension Fund steerage.
This from Last Year as Silver shut down attemps to open up NY Pension fund board. Look at the Hubris. He’s a motherfuckin crook :
Yesterday, Coumo’s move:
So Two Guys remain unindicted. Busting Morris is way up the food chain, After Hevisi it’s Silver. Silver protected his ass. Cuomo:
Hear,Hear! on the First Part, tho a little funny it takes “beyond the grossest manifestations of pay to play”:: State, National, and Global COLLAPSE before the prosecutors get off their ass. Spitzer was headed in the right direction , till he was “headed” in another, so to speak. It seems to me, and I’d like to hear what NYCO has to say, but it seems to me NY Dems for State Row offices will be fighting to save their ass as things go down the shitter, afterall, they were minding the store in State. Or, NOT. Cuomo can’t sit on his ass really, can he? Otherwise he’s Andy the Patsy? NYCO ? Whaddya think?
From Joisey, I think this is just a “strong recommended BUY” , here, – Orville Redenbacker, Jiffy Pop, the whole sector. I sure Hope corruption doesn’t find it’s way into New Jersey from New York. LOL.
One other tid- Silver’s boy Hevesi?
Hevisi was the guy viaq the NY Comptrollers Office who cracked the Swiss Banks, honored by Israel. You tell me with this kind of money – $1.2 Billion – that there weren’t a lot of moochers and graft, and I’ll tell ya: Bullshit.
HEVESI TO BE HONORED BY ISRAELI GOVERNMENT
FOR HIS WORK HELPING ACHIEVE RESTITUTION FROM SWISS BANKS
Now the same recipients are screaming for the Swiss to maintain Secrecy. LOL. Anyways, around we go.
Italian Prosecutor vs. Jewish Mafia in New York. Place your Bets.
Sorry!
This languished for hours in the Spam file…
37. To be fair, I don’t really think that’s an Obama thing so much as a POTUS thing. Which is why I don’t understand why everyone got so excited about the appearance. As if it wouldn’t be scripted to the hilt.
(But that Special Olympics comment… oyyy)
Oh I am sure it was scripted. And yes, why get excited, just one more of their instances of seeking selected media outlets over and above governing.
But HE sold himself as Jesus the healer. To all people. I decided at some point that it was not political schtick, he and his actually do believe it. One reason they appear so nonplussed when his acting out or being a sell out does not work out for them…. He should be exempt they think. That DNA stuff and all.
LOL. The whole Leno thing is unsurprising. As “select” media.. It is where Artnold chose to announce for the gubernatorial… the Recall.
This is the tease in The Note email:
A lot of this scheisse remiinds me of when it came out that he and his liaisons to congress had not tipped DiFI about Panetta. And she made use of that… I don’t care about either Ob or DiFi, I don’t care about rotted flesh gargoyles licking each other (or whatever passes for “respect” between pols)… but he gave her an opening. she took it, big time. Easy to make him look like a stupid child in the espalier’d rose garden, which is just what she did…
AND it came out, out here, from a stray comment of Boxer’s, that Ob had alerted almost NO ONE in congress of his cabinet picks in their area of committe chair. Boxer had not been adivised of energy pic nor environment either.
It is just dumb.
I am so sick of dumb I could die.
Can’t we tie them all in a sack with rocks and throw them in a fast moving river?
Ben Smith full text (he did have embedded links)
Dropping in at the NYT I see Obster made his “appeal” to Iran with Shimon Peres
That’ll do it. Fur sure.
Shimon Peres? This Shimon Peres?
Woohoo! A.I.G. Sues U.S. for Return of $306 Million in Tax Payments
You couldn’t make this shit up.
FWIW…. (very very little)
Meet the Press: NYC Mayor Bloomberg, Govs. Schwarzenegger and Rendell. Roundtable with NBC’s Brokaw, CNBC’s Burnett.
Face the Nation: Obama economic aide Goolsbee, Rep. Frank, Sen. Grassley. Roundtable with Slate’s Dickerson, NY Times’ Calmes.
Fox News Sunday: Obama economic aide Romer, Sen. Shelby, Rep. Rangel, White House photographer Souza.
State of the Union: Romer, House Minority Leader Boehner.
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MTP looks to be painful beyond belief… Brokaw AND Rendell AND Arnold AND Bloomberg. They should issue morphine with that show…. and I am surprised they have pushed Romer out there again, and to more than one venue.
She can again say the “fundamentals are sound”. But that it means something different than McC saying it months ago with a higher DJI and lower unemployment.
Whatever.
Sack/rocks/river
no surprise….
Convicted Rapists In Military
they def need to take it right to Michelle Obama’s face. I mean, in her face. All htat mealy mouthed palaver about being for military families. Weep weep hand wring hand wring.
I am so sick of the fucking PR from all the admins. ALL OF THEM. Past and current.
Get her out of the photo op veg garden.
That Indictment of Hank Morris? 160 some counts?
Hevesi and Shelley Silver’s Guy?
{ there’s some more }
the one where:
Well, This thing is bumpin right up Schumer’s ass.
Here’s Chuck Schumer in Aug 2007 with VERY MUCH the “Nothin To See Here Move Along” bit when Spitzer’s ass was wiped out, and Morris was first implicated in the Pension Looting.
This Quote Above by Schumer came two days after a piece in the New York Post –
This puts this right at Hevesi’s door. And the Jewish Dem brokers in the City. Shelley Silver of course, and Andrew (nee Finklestein LOL) Stein…AND Schumer:::::Rebuild The Temple for cryin out load, we could use the courtrooms.
The Times article referred to Schumer ties in passing – only as the 1998 campaign , it didn’t mention 2004. This guy, Morris, has been with Schumer all along.
These motherfuckers have been at this ~40 years.
It’s what . they. do. Shielded by their religion and ethnicity as body armour. Gad, Chuck Schumer sure hit that microphone when ties to Morris popped up lest they gain traction.
FFS-
A $150 Billion bucks in NY Pensions at the hands of one guy, Hevisi? that makes the Holocaust settlement look like squat. And Morris a runner for Robert Rubin and the Jew Crew in New York? With captains like Schumer and Shelly Silver in key slots? The New York Pensions Didn’t stand a chance. Dodd and Charlie Rangel are the fuckin help. Well-cut-in Servants, but servants nonetheless. And EXPENDABLE.
These motherfuckers have been at this ~40 years.
That is part of the problem, same damn people on our necks for years.
And when there is a “new” face it was sent by the boys in the back room. (Ifill tried to claim on Charlie the other night that no one in Chicago knew Obama at all.. GMAFB!!)
A few years ago I went back and read the vaunted Law Day speech that supposedly catapulted Carter forward. Who sat in the front row? Kennedy and other Dem party “deciders”.
I don’t know, let it all break. The only hope.
Our Bush-lite gov’t has banned George Galloway from the country. This, the same week war criminal Bush was allowed in.
Taibbi: The Big Takeover
Bingo.
Can you say “oligarchy”? Now? Please?
Democracy. What a farce. And to think Obamalama plans to “remake the world” in the US’ image.
Precisely, lalalamalovebaby is just the latest and very carcinogenic cherry on top of decades of wreckage pillage and murder.
It’s really so done. Like a malfunctioning oven, when it’s smoking it is cooking when it’s burning it’s done. The love fest out here between Ob and Arnold was embarrassing. The two of them slobbering over the other.
I’d watch for a blessed event in 9 months frankly. Christmas birth. LOL
Could he have picked worse men? Gasbags, all 4.
The public as CEO.
And, just in case having Ahnold as your gov isn’t enough: Shock Wave – coming up here on CBC this weekend but it looks like it’s up in parts on Teh YouTube too.
Oh – I see you can watch the whole thing online at the above link. Tally ho then!
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