Talk talk talk… [update: Gibbs] 24 April 2009
Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, Divertissements, Germany, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Israel/AIPAC.trackback

A common gull [Guardian - British Wildlife Gallery - Niall Benvie - BWPA]
Talk talk talk… wonder what he is saying.
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Oh… they are so worried. So so so worried.
A clutch of political and labour leaders in Germany have raised the spectre of civil unrest after the country’s leading institutes forecast a 6pc contraction of gross domestic product this year, a slump reminiscent of 1931 and bad enough to drive unemployment to 4.7m by 2010.
Michael Sommer, leader of the DGB trade union federation, called the latest wave of sackings a “declaration of war” against Germany’s workers. “Social unrest can no longer be ruled out,” he said.
Gesine Swann, presidential candidate for the Social Democrats, said “the mood could turn explosive” over the next three months unless the government takes drastic action.
And of course all the skunks leading the various nations are having the same conversation. NOT how to help, but how to protect themselves from the people. And that is Germany, which despite some erosions, has better long term protections in harsh times with rising unemployment than the land of Uncle Sam. Or St Ob. Or whoever runs us.
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From Angry Arab:
I told you so, damn it
““Congressman, the crossings are no longer completely closed. There are many items that are being transported through the crossings. There are, as you know, some items that the Israeli government does not permit to cross,” Clinton responded.
“The best way for us to help the people of Gaza is for Hamas to cease its rocket firing on Israel, to abide by the quartet principles, and the same principles that were adopted by the Arab peace initiative, which I have reiterated several times here today.””
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Oh they will regularize us all… To BITS. Regularised and pummeled and boxed up… in bits.
…catch this prescient take from the CPIML (Communist Party India – Marxist Leninist) via SMBIVA
[W]hatever else he does on his new beat, ushering liberal democracy in the land of the jirgas, or the greatly discussed objective of sending the girl child to school, is not the priority that the American people and with them the rest of the world are being made to believe to be the purpose of the assignment.
So what is Holbrooke’s mission?
Pakistani analysts, skeptical of US role in the region since decades, say Holbrooke’s mission may not be different from his contributions in Yugoslavia, a country he helped break into several smaller “manageable” pieces along religious and ethnic lines. By that measure Afghanistan and Pakistan offer a rich haul not to speak of India when its turn comes. …
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UPDATE, 12:30 pm on the Pacific Ocean
I so do not want Gibbs to go home to the family. From Politico (must check Tapper!)
BRIEFING — MORE TORTURE: Gibbs says there is a “time-honored principle” that “if you follow legal guidance, that you shouldn’t be prosecuted.”
Pressed further, he shows impatience: “I started out the week saying it, I’ll probably end the week saying it, if people knowingly broke the law,” there could be prosecutions.
Asked again about Emanuel’s comments last Sunday, Gibbs gripes he’s trying “not to take it personally that I have to repeat these answers like seven times.” (3:06 p.m.)
Says the president has seen “some glimmers of hope” but the country has “a long way to go.” Predicts job losses for “many, many months.”
“It’s going to take a while to get the economy growing again,” he says. And it’s over. (3:09 p.m.)
More after the jump…
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Asked about planned release of abuse photos, Gibbs blames the judicial system: “The 2nd Circuit court ruled in December 2008 that the photos has to be released. The previous administration lost a court case on that.” (2:30 p.m.)
On stress tests, Gibbs says the review process has mostly been “run by the regulators.” (2:32 p.m.)
Update on Chrysler: Gibbs says the automaker is six days away from president’s deadline.
“This administration will continue to plan for all contingencies,” Gibbs says, adding that there will be an announcement on the deal next week. (2:34 p.m.)
Tapper asks: Why not appeal photo decision? “I’m not minimizing our role in this. I’m…trying to give you and others the appropriate amount of background.” (2:35 p.m.)More on torture: back to that line about “reflection, not retribution.” (2:38 p.m.)
Gibbs says the president is not concerned that the release of photos and memos will distract from the agenda. (2:39 p.m.)
Challenged on Obama’s limited track record of bipartisanship, Gibbs says Obama will reach out to members of both parties and highlights last night’s bipartisan cocktail party. He says bipartisanship is a two-way street. (2:43 p.m.)
Gibbs engages in a long colloquy on the purpose of reflection and history — with Helen Thomas. Brushes off suggestion that Obama’s desire not to prosecute torture lawyers reflects a lack of appreciation for history. (2:46 p.m.)
Chip Reid asks if torture issue will just “simmer” while Feinstein’s committee investigates. Gibbs says the committee is an “appropriate” place for investigation to occur.
And what about a commission? “The president will always take under advisement whatever Congress decides.” (2:47 p.m.)
Does the president oppose a commission? “I think the president believes we should look forward and I think the president strongly believes that the investigation that is ongoing in the Intelligence Committee is an appropriate place” for that to occur. (2:52 p.m.)
Re: Obama-Boehner exchange yesterday — what’s the status of the Cheney request? “That request was made on March 31, 2009…The classifications will be determined by a number of people, including the director of central intelligence and the national security adviser.” Could take three weeks. (2:59 p.m.)
On Castro remarks: “The president took actions to pursue our national interests by lifting the embargo,” Gibbs says. [he did? -- Mcat]
Gibbs calls it “a bit amusing” that leadership in Cuba seems ” a little less sure of themselves.” (3:00 p.m.)
That last from Gibbs is really laughable.
hmm I just read that Cheney has upped the ante. He has now asked the WH to release two classified docs. Stepping up from his application to the National Archives March 31.
Does Gibbs EVER make sense?
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Oh yes… he’ll cure cancer. Too. When not tending the oceans. Not the first time he has said this.
The article, amazingly! takes a bit of a clear eye’d look at that gibber drool.
I didn’t see anything there about environmental, chemical etc causes. Kind of a waste of time to look for a cure when big business keeps adding new carcinogenic agents to food, consumer products and the environment. One step forward. Two steps back.
The only way Obamalama’s going to “cure” cancer is to take on corporate America. That’s not going to happen.
He won’t be curing cancer (but then I find his Pied Pipering a particularly disgusting game).
I felt sorry for the woman in the article, but so many people do believe if they eat lettuce (so to speak) they will not get cancer. It just does not work that way… it really does not.
But then I laughed out loud the day Jim Fixx dropped dead. Fit, young (relatively) and actually running.
Look who has entered briefs against rolling it back… and check who raised overturning the protections. Obama listens, with his RIGHT ear.
wow, the suck more and more every day, and I expected them to suck.
Not to mention the fact that Law & Order reruns would then become extremely confusing.
Jeralyn has a post up on the case. And the issue.
I do believe Hillary is going rogue. This should be interesting. David Brooks was spieling his lies last night on cRose@ Hamas. But he let slip that the foreign policy people were not all on the same page. I can only hope Ross will be the first to go. Brooks said Obama is not sentimental and will not hesitate to cut people when he thinks they are not doing their job.
Why do you think she’s going rogue? Seems to me she’s on the same foreign policy page as Obamalama.
Time will tell. I’m reading between the lines.
Obama is pushing much harder than any president ever has.
Maybe I’ve misunderstood your point? Where do you see her going rogue?
Uh-oh, I think Krugman needs to be punished…
Meanwhile…
Mem’ries… misty waterboarded mem’ries… just get in the way.
I really should have stayed away from dkos today to prevent my head from exploding over the FP discussion they’re having over there about this. Holy excuses, Batman.
Meet the Press: Jordanian King Abdullah, Press Secretary Gibbs
This Week: Iranian President Ahmadinejad. Roundtable with Donna Brazile, Matthew Dowd, Chrystia Freeland, David Sanger, George Will
Face the Nation: McCain
Fox News Sunday: Obama aide Summers, Sens. Bond, Levin
State of the Union: Obama aide Jarrett, White House photographer Souza, Sens. Feinstein, Graham, Lieberman, former Clinton aide Podesta, former Reagan aide Duberstein
That reminds me. I’m out of popcorn.
What the fuck is this now? Simulated torture for ratings? Don’t those ego-bloated talking heads have anything better to do with their shows? (rhetorical question) Useless blowhards.
Dahr Jamail:
Oh… maybe if the Armenians ask the Jews really really nicely the Jews will toss them a Holocaust bone. No? Right, probably not. Holocaust RE is very valuable. (Ben Smith has the Samantha Powers big promise, other wise known as more hot air, vid)
Poor David, he not only supported, donated he REGISTERED voters for ObRama The Great. Tsk.
Smith adds that David often communicates to him his anger at what he calls “anti Obama” media reporting.
Tsk.
Israelis would never do that … the Turks are their favorite Muslims.
I caught a segment yesterday.. think on World Forum, a Pete Petersen (and similar) funded world focus news program on PBS/KQED that lauded the [current] liberalisation of Turkey. For the wimmens. Why, my goodness they go to cafes. They have a cool drink in a cafe with the mens. And oh my. Their liberal soaps play on TV in Palestine and oh my, there is [good] liberalisation of the Palestinian wimmens due to the Turks.
HEY! ANYBODY HEARD OF ATTATURK? Seen films of Istanbul women or other city women in the TWENTIES and THIRTIES?
who’s that?
/dumb American
Jake Tapper on the genocide non issue issue.
No American president is going to call it genocide. And Turkey is EVEN MORE strategic now than it used to be. Apparently we really really want access to their routes out of Iraq, which of course were denied to us going in….. So many bridges for sale… Everybody is selling bridges. To each other.
Candy from a baby. Tapper v Gibbs:
National group pushes county recorders to defy same-sex marriage ruling
they’re pre-empting it here until 2 am for a fundraising auction, but SIMON JOHNSON & MICHAEL PERINO will be on Moyers this week:
Gosh our one claim to fame, during the frequent (every few weeks, not kidding) fundraising, one thing they do not move is Moyers. Still runs 10PM Fridays…
They simply REMOVE most of the programming during fundraising. They re-run the fundraising conflabs during the night.
Scahill:
hmm From Politico’s whiteboard:
Well his thumb is in Israel.
U.S. Cities Increasing Use of Armed Mercenaries to Replace Police
Pauvre petit Sully.
I have heard him say, as he turned to greasy mush over Palin (and still, btw), that ”thinking of Reagan” could ”calm me down”.
TOO MUCH TRANSPARENCY, I would say.
be interesting to see how he excuses ObRama from Torture Issues, which Sully has made his almost-as-big-as-Palin issue
Maher:
Of course, he’s a black guy who’s gonna help the plantation owners keep pickin’ your pockets, but hey …
From Moyers’ show about the financial meltdown:
That’s the theme over and over again: supporters who wait and wait and wait for him to do the right thing when they know by his actions on other issues that the best he’s capable of is capitulating.
The bursting bubble of Obama’s promise apparently only has a very tiny leak for some people.
I think that the President has to insist on the details being a lot of openness, a lot of– you know, the modern equivalent of the telegraph wires being put in, I suppose, is live blogging.
Simon hon… we are currently headed to closed hearings with a probably classified report to be issued in 8 – 12 months or so.
Call when you wish you could UN VOTE. When the rose glass is shattered… when you face the words and the acts.
well I loved how the boychicks closed out with versions of “it may be too late”. LOL do they hear themselves.
But don’t worry! They said if we miss the boat here, then we are in as bad trouble as the Europeans. Right! – and ObRama picked up smidges of help for Afghanistan (65 live bodies of ”help”, from what I read). Afghanistan alone may kill us off.
But psst, those European banks are … “TOO BIG TO SAVE”. that’s what one of the boys said. They were congealing by the end.
poor simon … how can you see the problems more or less clearly then be so blind about the politicians?
So much for the mortal threatiness:
oh noes… had you caught the 8 pm update (KGO) they are ready to overrun Islamabad. ANY momentito!
They (someone) does seem very close to parts of Kabul.. but it’s not anything new.
The Pakistani ambassador to the US made the point on Blitzer’s show the other day that the Taleban may be 60 some miles from Islamabad but that’s as the crow flies over a mountainous region. It’s not like they were marching down a straight stretch of road directly into the capital ready to overthrow the gov’t at a moment’s notice. Afaic, Hillary’s fearmongering was just about overruling Pakistan’s sovereignty once again to justify more drone attacks. The ambassador also made the point that the Pakistani military was 1 million men strong. It’s not like they’re completely helpless.
The Irishman and the ‘plot’ to kill the Bolivian President
hmm From the link:
“autonomy for Santa Cruz”…if only ti were that simple.
he reminds me of a Jesuit priest who was mentioned in some reports, I think when JPII died. American, handsome in a square jawed way… He had first obtained a law degree, then a medical degree, then a degree in architecture. THEN he turned to the church, to the seminary. Rising fast, spending some years in Rome… as he was valuable to the church. Arrived nearly a prince in some ways, soon to become a prince of the church. I looked a long time at his picture and frankly wondered what intelligence service he was with, might be with… Just a stray thought.
Definitely the stuff of a Tom Clancy novel in both cases.
Wow. When Bachman brings the crazy, she brings all of it.
“CO2 is natural.” Not to belabor the point, but so is arsenic. Would you like a couple more cups in your soup? Or maybe you you talk to the folks at Lake Nyos about co2. Oh that’s right, you can’t because they are all dead.
This is on top of her Earth Day floor comments demanding submission to Jesus.
This crazy bitch accomplishes the impossible in making Inhofe look reasonable. Get the hook already.
Well if the hook descends for MB, then get it to do some work. Take Hensarling and Gingrey too. Just as a start.
I see Hensarling and Bachmann behind their little picket fence in the Twilight Zone, raising herds of crazy three-eyed babies.
hmm they tucked a highly discretionary 350 million (why so little?) for NG to the border. The So border…
What a scam.
And here is soemthing I really had nto thought Obster would do… a favorite Bush gambit against Chirac across three years 2003, 04, 05 of refusing specific French airplanes landing rights in the US…
here we refused a flight entrance into our airspace, a Paris to Mexico flight, diverting it to Martinique. All for a Franco-Colombian journalist. Listed as a terrorist with bin Laden.
Paranoïa in a great power can lead to dangerously stupid actions.
i rather suspect it was not paranoia, it was retribution. The short guy in Paris got bitchy. So what.
Rockin baby robins by the WH Press Room door. Really!
London cop’s Facebook: “Can’t wait to bash” G20 protestors
here we go, the inevitable he’s a good man and shouldn’t be held to task etc:
don’t disturb the nice family man. who is on the 9th circuit here in SF Of all places.
We have Condi Yoo and Bybee. California, land of dreams.
This is interesting … I think this psychologist is a big Obama supporter, and you can find echoes in this piece in the stuff Obama says. Some context to the political language we’re hearing (like the Lakoff stuff informed understanding Dean):
Conservatives Live in a Different Moral Universe — And Here’s Why It Matters
True. As I was reading, my cutoff point was after #2.
FBI Arrests Oklahoma Teabagger For Twitter Threats
Rather unsettling:
Lordy:
Another thing, I know that a few days ago, the ”deaths” were reported as ”60”… then that was “adjusted” to 20 dead and 40 “victims”… with the idea that 40 lay ill in hospital…
Always interesting to watch media ”adjust”.
If you want to follow latest developments, try @BreakingNews at Twitter (a somewhat reputable news source; see also @mpoppel, the journalist who runs it).
The WHO is on the verge of declaring a pandemic, but hasn’t done so yet.
NYC health department just had an emergency press conference to address illness of 200 Queens schoolchildren (probable swine flu, but no one has been hospitalized).
A high school in Texas has been closed after 2 cases reported.
And swine flu cases also confirmed in Kansas.
Of course… this sure all makes a handy dandy way for anti-immigrant forces to demonize Mexicans. What a world.
ruh-roh…
@BreakingNews The White House says President Obama has not shown any flu-like symptoms since his trip to Mexico. A person he met had swine flu.
I forgot he was just in Mexico.
I caught just a fragment of a report last night.. some tracking of Calderon. That in between out-of-Mexico events, a few days ago, he chose not to return to Mexico, there have been so many multi country events that I forget which two.
CA is supposed to have confirmed cases as well. oUr news last night mentioned both CA and Tejas…
It’ll be interesting to see how much follow-up attention that story will get.
In other news, this blurb just cracked me up:
U of GA professor sought for 3 off-campus murders.
I looked him up on RateMyProfessor.com. Some excerpts from past years:
Hmm.
What a totally bizarre event. Not that all mass killings are not.
Oddly, ABC News saw fit to send out a “breaking news” whatever on this, but not on the passenger who tried to rush the cockpit. All things considered… rushing cockpits does rate a headline…
if he’d been of another country of origin it would be all over the news.
agree. If he were Mexican now… it would be wall to wall cable coverage.
Looking at the follow-up stories, it appears the plane incident took place last night around 10 pm. After being subdued and seatbelted by other passengers, the Israeli is now in FBI custody and charged with flight interference or whatever. The story is he had a panic attack. After they checked out the aircraft, the other passengers, and the luggage, the plane was able to fly to Israel today.
Just up from the BBC
hmm I def heard CA mentioned last night with confirmed cases, but we are out of the headlines. Geesh, get real, if it is in Mexico, it is here.
From the Athens Banner-Herald:
How interesting.. a couple of reports I read mentioned his children were there, saw nothing and had been removed by tht police but not that the dead woman was his wife.
In other murders, apparently the B-Street Band (guess who they cover) that was booked for the Craigslist killer’s August nuptials was the first to break the news today that the wedding is definitely off. I think Radar and People have the story.
Reuters full text. We now have a seventh but don’t worry! She already recovered!
8 N.Y. High School Students Had Swine Flu, Health Officials Say
Reuters is using “pandemic” in their rolling breaking news headlines.
Two in Kansas, now, and two in Texas, says WSJ. No US deaths so far.
They say our 5 in CA have recovered. LOL I gather we are a past tense event.
A talking CDN head said that a travel advisory hasn’t yet been released for CDNs going to Mexico and then went on to say that travellers should make sure they have a flu shot. Fat lot of good that’s going to do.
CNN just mentioned that two cops were shot and killed responding to an incident at a gun range, down south somewhere. I can’t find any links yet.
here:
Fucking horrorshow in the news this week.
Bay County Press is calling that one a “domestic violence incident,” too.
oh, and Bea Arthur died.
Any new time-of-arrival announced for the Rapture?
Gotta figure somebody carrying a cross and a collection plate is going to work that in to the swine flu story soon..
well.. we’ve already been told that only Black Reagan Jesus can save us.
What more can be said.
Hamageddon?
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