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Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Sex / Reproductive Health.
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Bogota, Colombia: A reveller dressed as a bride at a gay pride parade [William Fernando Martinez/AP]

Life v Gibbs.

This is pieced together from a couple of places, part of it is a reporter, Yunji de Nies, at Political Punch, the Tapper ABC site… the second set of questioning, I don’t know which reporter it is… Pam of Pam’s House Blend had both sections of the Q & A at her site with no link or attribution, at all.  heh.

The bolding is from Pam’s site – and this questioning is the unknown  reporter:

Q    Robert, today the President is going to celebrate Gay Pride at the White House for the first time.  Even so, the gay community is somewhat divided over whether or not the President has done enough, the pace of change is enough.  What does the President intend to say today, and can you talk a little bit about his thinking about how much he has to mollify a community that’s been very supportive during the campaign?

MR. GIBBS:  I appreciate the opportunity to comment on mollifying a community, but that’s not the way the President looks at important issues.  I think if you go back and look at the campaign — either his campaign for the Senate or his campaign for the presidency — he takes stands that he believes are consistent with his values.

We didn’t play a lot of interest group-based politics in the presidential race, I think that was denoted by the fact that we didn’t get a lot of endorsements in the presidential race.

The President makes those decisions, again, based on his values.  I won’t get ahead of what he’s going to say later today, but he will, I think, address a number of issues and reaffirm the commitments that he’s made.

Yes, ma’am.

Q    Following on that, the President has talked about repealing “don’t ask, don’t tell,” and also the Defense of Marriage Act.  So I’m wondering if you can tell me what specific steps has he taken to do this?  What is his timeline for doing it?  And also –

MR. GIBBS:  I think we got a fairly similar question a minute ago, but I’ll try to –

Q    — there’s legislation apparently moving through House to repeal “don’t ask, don’t tell,” I think it’s H.R. 1283, and he hasn’t endorsed it.  Why not?

MR. GIBBS:  I can certainly talk to legislative affairs about what that piece of legislation would do.  As I said earlier, the President has been involved in, personally, meetings on this topic with stakeholders, including those at the Pentagon.

Q    What about members of Congress?

MR. GIBBS:  I don’t know if he’s met specifically with members of Congress on that. I know that — I can try to get a list, I know that staff has worked here on the issue.  It’s a commitment that he intends to keep.

Q    Can you talk a little bit more about the meetings that he’s had, what –

MR. GIBBS:  No.

Q    — and how recent has he been in these meetings?

MR. GIBBS:  Since January 20.

I read somewhere or other that as the attendees arrived for the afternoon reception at the WH, ABBA’s “Dancing Queen” was playing.  hmmm.

From the Wapo on today’s reception …

His comments were received enthusiastically by some attendees. “This is so incredibly historic and symbolic,” Mitchell Gold, a gay-rights activist from North Carolina, said after leaving the White House. “I don’t think for a minute that we can forget that under the Bush administration we didn’t see that.”

Whew!  Poor [shorter] Mitchell:  “Obama is Better than Bush”  OIBTB.  Ok!  Don’t be bothering to be an activist for any rights I might need… :lol:

And, from de Nies second question to the WH press flack:

de Nies :  Can I ask one more question quickly?

GIBBS:  Sure.

de Nies :  On sort of a D.C. issue — and that is:  What hasn’t the president changed his license plate on the presidential limousine? Is he planning to change them for the “taxation without representation” plates?

GIBBS:  I think rather than change the logo around the license plate, the president is committed instead to changing the status of the District of Columbia.

de Nies :  But that is a symbol, though, that a lot of people look at as…

GIBBS:  Right.  I guess I would ask you to ask people in Washington whether they’d like to have that status changed, or that symbolism screwed onto the back of a limousine?

Stuff ‘em with symbolism.  And the historicity — of it all.

Of course the license plate frame signalling DC’s ongoing colonial status was a cowardly bullshitty thing Clinton did, just in the last two weeks of his final term.  Big Guy.  So courageous.

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1. marisacat - 29 June 2009

From Madman from the end of the previous thread:

Ever wonder if that soda cup you threw out of a car window could cause real damage? There was a case in TX, and a reporter called up a physics professor to get the scoop:

It all started Wednesday, when I got an email from Brandon Webb, who handles PR for the College of Natural Sciences and Mathematics at UT Dallas. He wanted to know if I could talk to a reporter who wanted to know whether a Styrofoam cup could break a windshield. (That’s an advantage to being officially mediagenic – I don’t get contacted directly now – they go through my ‘people’ a.k.a Brandon.)

C’mon – a Stryofoam cup break a windshield? Not likely. Then the reporter emailed me the photos. The windshield looks like a rock went through it just above the inspection sticker. For you non-Texans, that’s a few inches from the bottom left side of the windshield.

Marilyn Mackey, the driver of the car with the broken windshield, was traveling about 65 mph down a highway. As a car passed her in the opposite direction, its driver threw a cup out his or her window. We know it was a cup of soda because, in addition to poor Marilyn getting wet, there is sticky dried cola-colored liquid all over the inside of the car. The police pulled part of the cup out of the windshield (which is how we know it came from Sonic) and found a shredded straw inside the car.

This called for a little research and one of Oullette’s rules of mediagenicity is to take the call when it comes and appreciate that reporters work on hard deadlines, so it had to be quick. The Sonic website has a nutrition calculator, complete with masses. A small Coke is about 3/4 of a pound, while a Route 44 (the giant size) is about 2 lbs. A regulation baseball is about 1/3 of a pound, and the ginormous sode weighs about as much as a bag of sugar, just to put things in perspective. A gallon of water weighs 8.3 lbs. The weight of the cup is negligible compared to the soda. Yes, I did check: A Diet Coke weighs only very slightly less.

The two cars were coming at each other and we’ll approximate that they were both going about 65 mph, which means that the speed of the cup relative to the car it hit was about 130 mph. (You never thought you’d need to use relative speed when you learned it in high school, did you?) If the driver of the oncoming car threw the cup instead of just releasing it, the cup would have an even greater speed when it hit the other car.

This is where the physicist side of me started to get fidgety. I get uncomfortable with numbers, because there’s a lot we don’t know.As you can see from the diagram,
if we really wanted to do this right, we’d need to know how close the cars got to each other before the cup was thrown, how hard the cup was thrown, the angle the cup was thrown, the drag on the cup, how much of the drink was left in the cup…

Some interesting details on how she approached the problem, as well as how the explanation needs to be tailored to the time a tv reporter has, then:

The reporter for Channel 8 asked me what the force actually meant. The best way to describe it would be that a scale placed on the windshield would register between 20 and 120 lbs when the cup hit. That quick calculation convinced me that it wasn’t beyond the realm of possibility that a drink cup could actually break a windshield. If the cup were thrown, even a pretty bad arm could give it an additional 30-40 mph, so the force could have been much larger.

When we taped my interview for Channel 8, the reporter asked if it mattered how the cup was oriented when it hit. It does. Brandon – who is just a joy to work with – had pitched them the idea of taping the segment in front of a car using a Sonic cup as a prop, so I had the cup right there. This was a question that just came up, so I
hadn’t had a lot of time to think about it. That always makes me nervous because the last think you want is to be captured on tape saying something wrong.

It does make a difference. Compare what happens when a cup hits bottom first or side first, as I’ve tried to illustrate to the right. The bottom of the cup is really rigid, so there isn’t going to be a lot of give. If it hits side first, the cup is going to give. If you’ve ever grabbed a flimsy drink cup and it squished and the lid came off, that’s exactly what would happen. This is the exact same principle the SAFER barriers use for racetracks. Deforming the wall increases the time it takes for a car to come to a stop, and that decreases the force the driver feels. If the cup hit side first, it wouldn’t create as much force as if it hit end first.

And, of course, I wasn’t mentally or numerically agile enough to think to calculate the kinetic energy during the taping. A 2 lb cup of soda going 130 mph would have the same kinetic energy as a baseball thrown at … [snip ... equation showing work] 320 mph.

Thought it was neat and I had to share. Too bad physics isn’t taught with interesting situations like this to catch people’s attention more often.

2. marisacat - 30 June 2009

jesus.. NOW there is a derailment in Italy… at Viareggio, on the coast. So… they come in threes as well? (DC, China, Italy)

3. marisacat - 30 June 2009

Tiny Revolution deconstructs a NYT piece on Honduras, by lined from Mexico City and Caracas. So much local flavor you know. “They all look alike.”

Do I think we green lighted this? Yes… which is no embrace of anyone.

Just for the sake of the on-going story line, let’s call that group down S America way, “leftists” (ignoring for the moment some less than salubrious stories coming out of some countries)… we struck out at one of them.

It will never end…………… Not in my lifetime.

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

intersting tidbit, this”

Mr. Zelaya pressed ahead with plans for a nonbinding referendum that opponents said would open the way for him to rewrite the constitution to run for re-election despite a one-term limit.

They overthrough a democratically elected gov’t over a NONBINDING referendum?

Suure … that makes sense.

marisacat - 30 June 2009

Yes and much shake and shiver over claims he tried to destroy the constitution, or act outside the constitution. An imposed reality (the constitution of Honduras, I mean) during the Reagan era.

I have a feeling he is finished however.

I do get a faint whiff of schism within the US over this.

Another not unrelated tidbit… a few posts in SF Gate these past days on Ling and Lee being held in NoKo… and the threads are vicious…. they “got what they deserved”… they are “guilty”… etc. I personally think Saberi (held in Iran) was in fact a spy of one sort or another.. (she calmed herslef with reciting the Star Spangled Banner? Oh get real) … but we still needed to get her out.

Clearly no support and maybe some subversion from so called Democratic elements inside the US. Certainly Gore and CurrentTV here in SF have been squirrelly from day one.

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

the referendum attacks are the same tactics being used against Chavez and Evo Morales. The language is almost identical. In fact, the “uprisings” in Indonesia of the wealthier classes against populist elected presidents used the same attack too, that they’re establishing “dictatorships” through trying to keep hold of office and that the indonesian president was “corrupt”. The right all over the world can be pretty effective in their use of the language of liberalization and freedom to repress populist movements for the poor and disenfranchised.

marisacat - 30 June 2009

Yes… Gollinger refers to points of reference between now and 2002 agaisnt Chavez. It always smells the same… like the Colonels in Greece… and so on…

marisacat - 30 June 2009

Yup… Rush is almost in tears… about what Zelaya tried to do to the Honduran Constitution…

he’s got a American “missionary” calling from inside Honduras…

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

so they call CIA agents “missionaries” now?

4. marisacat - 30 June 2009

lenin has an interesting post up on Honduras…. and this is in comments… I had read that most of the generals passed thru SOA.

“General Romeo Vasquez, the head of the armed forces who led the military coup against the democratically elected president Zelaya, is a graduate of the notorious School of the Americas” ( http://www.soaw.org/ ). quelle surprise

Anonymous | 29 Jun, 01:31 | #

I would guess that our dissent with the emerging independence (good bad indifferent) of certain S American states is issues of bases and drugs. Plus whatever else.

lenin also quotes from thsi analysis… Gollinger at Venezuala Analysis:

UPDATE 3: 12:18pm – Dan Restrepo, Presidential Advisor to President Obama for Latin American Affairs, is currently on CNN en Español. He has just stated that Obama’s government is communicating with the coup forces in Honduras, trying to “feel out” the situation. He also responded to the reporter’s question regarding whether Washington would recognize a government in Honduras other than President Zelaya’s elected government, by saying that the Obama Administration “is waiting to see how things play out” and so long as democratic norms are respected, will work with all sectors. This is a confirmation practically of support for the coup leaders. Restrepo also inferred that other countries are interfering in Honduras’ international affairs, obviously referring to Venezuela and other ALBA nations who have condemned the coup with firm statements earlier this morning. …

Then farther down this:

UPDATE 5: 12:30PM – Foreign Minister of Honduras Patricia Rodas has been taken from her home by soldiers, beaten and imprisoned. Serious human rights violations are occurring in Honduras and President Obama has so far only said he is “concerned”. …

Think he has since come out with “condemn”…

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

he’s a champion of “freedom”, our Prez Barry.

5. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

I disagree with some of the premises the author takes for granted, but this is interesting and true, as far as it goes. It’s also interesting to me as I was inside the retail part of the music industry as it killed itself … I watched it happen close up.

Michael Jackson and the Zombieconomy

Want to know why we have a zombieconomy? Because the beancounters killed the incentives to create real value.

Let’s use MJ’s tragic death as a mini case-study. $300 million over, for example, 25 years? That’s $12 million a year.

I’m deliberately leaving out ads, endorsements, concerts, etc., to focus on the the structural problems in one industry: music.

If the world’s biggest pop star only made $12 million a year from his recordings, why would anyone make serious music? Where did the rest of the money go? Why, straight into record labels’ pockets. Did they make better music with it? Nope — they made Britney and Lady GaGa. And that’s how they killed themselves: by underinvesting in quality, to rake in the take.

Wait a second — that sounds familiar. You can add back in the endorsements, etc. now — they only double the figure: to about $25 million.

If the world’s biggest pop star only made $25 million a year in total, something’s very, very wrong. Where’s the rest of the money? Why can’t a resource as scarce as the King of Pop capture more value?

After all, that’s not even mega-rich.

The world’s top hedge fund “managers” regularly pull in hundreds of millions. That’s an order of magnitude difference.

No wonder everyone wants to be a banker, investor, or [insert beancounter here]. There’s no money left in anything else.

That’s the big problem behind the zombieconomy. We don’t reward people for creating, growing, nurturing, or even remixing assets. We just reward them for allocating the same old assets.

Of course, the fact that beancounters corrupt and ruin everything is the direct result of unrestrained capitalism. It’s baked into the cake. When you make something property, buy reducing it to its economic value, you put a fence around it, yet commerce (in the sense of people exchanging things they have for things they want … and that DOESN’T have to be done through a capital-centered system) founders with too many fences. Art dies if you can’t share, copy and feedback what moves you. So does engineering. So does science and medicine. EVERYTHING depends on permiability of ideas in order for people to adapt it to other needs.

The beancounters couldn’t kill it if you didn’t insist on valuing things only in terms of how many beans its worth.

marisacat - 30 June 2009

And that’s how they killed themselves: by underinvesting in quality, to rake in the take.

ain’t it the truth………………………..

6. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009
7. marisacat - 30 June 2009

How can there be “more” when ti went on for 1 to several years? wouldn’t that be “on-going”?

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

S.C. Gov. Mark Sanford Admits More Liaisons With Argentine Mistress, the AP Reports [12:10 p.m. ET]

****

Obviously I am naive… :lol:

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

there is a weird sense I’m getting from the coverage that the establishment press find it very threatening that Sandford seems to have actually fallen for her, as though it would be better if she was just some chippie that he used like a crusty sock, to be thrown away when he was finished. Breaking down each visit into separate “liasons” rather than visits within an ongoing relationship keeps her linguistically in the “slut/whore” catagory, which would somehow be more “understandable”.

marisacat - 30 June 2009

yes this idea that he may have fallen in love (to whatever extent) is just whupping their asses, for some reason. It does not fit into a handy box. Hell he probably fell head over heels for BA, compared to Columbia SC.

Anyone with brains would.

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

anybody could see from those emails and that mess of a news conference that Sandford is a lovesick schoolboy with this woman. He’s too much of a tightass to be faking it.

8. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

What Have We Learned From Stonewall?

To we liberals and progressives, the sight of two men or two women kissing passionately at a wedding altar is one of the most joyous, life-affirming and natural sights imaginable. But, unfortunately, it seems that perhaps we are as much in the minority as the evangelical propagandists who’d spent tens of millions of dollars telling people to tell people whom they can’t marry.

Granted, gay marriage in the Stonewall era wasn’t even a pipe dream except for a few radical dreamers and the rise of political leaders such as Harvey Milk and Barney Frank wouldn’t be for another decade or so. Yet we live in a nation in which it is no longer legal to discriminate or harass based on sexual orientation yet sweet young gay men like Matthew Shepard are beaten and left to die on barbed wire fences.

We are a nation in a painful state of transition in which Republicans and Democrats alike oppose gay marriage and liken it to sexual perversion while making mockeries of their own traditional marriage vows.

We have not have learned nearly as much from the Stonewall Inn riots of two generations ago as we may like to think. And the gay rights movement, while it may at times be shrill and militant, is deep down at heart just as scared and vulnerable as it was on that hot, humid, chaotic night 40 years ago today.

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

Max Baucus Is NOT the Top Recipient of Health Insurance Bribes

Max Baucus:
Health Industry Total: $1,720,449
DETAILS:
Health Professionals $499,641
Pharmaceuticals/Health Products $494,313
Health Services/HMOs $345,500
Hospitals/Nursing Homes $344,326

Barack Obama:
Health Industry Total: $18,803,350
DETAILS:
Health Professionals $11,532,962
Hospitals/Nursing Homes $3,205,041
Insurance $2,211,348

OK? Have we got it now?

Oh Barry, your rabid cultists barely knew thee.

marisacat - 30 June 2009

it really is hilarious. If only they knew. But then they would say, “he had to… to keep them quiet, til he is ready to make his move”.

10. NYCO - 30 June 2009

New York Senate update:

Today, all the senators came in for session (ordered by the court) but left after 15 minutes. The Dems then set up their own session. A GOP senator wandered through the chamber for some reason (perhaps left his briefcase behind, or just was cutting through to use the john), was marked “present” by the Dems, who then declared a quorum and passed a shitload of bills.

Tune in tomorrow…

marisacat - 30 June 2009

…was marked “present” by the Dems, who then declared a quorum and passed a shitload of bills.

What a hoot!

I hope the bills benefitted real people… at the least!

NYCO - 30 June 2009

No, unfortunately Paterson regards the session as invalid and won’t sign them. He’s called another session at 7 pm, which legally he can’t do without 24 hours notice I think, so maybe the part with the state troopers dragging the senators into the chamber is coming up later tonight.

(There are a number of laws that expire tonight, requiring new bills to be passed and signed before midnight. I think one of them involves Niagara County’s existence, or something like that.)

catnip - 30 June 2009

maybe the part with the state troopers dragging the senators into the chamber is coming up later tonight.

Woohoo! Good times.

I think one of them involves Niagara County’s existence, or something like that.

Will it cease to exist…? ;)

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

ISRAEL ATTACKS JUSTICE BOAT; KIDNAPS HUMAN RIGHTS WORKERS; CONFISCATES MEDICINE, TOYS AND OLIVE TREES

[23 miles off the coast of Gaza, 15:30pm] – Today Israeli Occupation Forces attacked and boarded the Free Gaza Movement boat, the SPIRIT OF HUMANITY, abducting 21 human rights workers from 11 countries, including Noble laureate Mairead Maguire and former U.S. Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (see below for a complete list of passengers). The passengers and crew are being forcibly dragged toward Israel.

“This is an outrageous violation of international law against us. Our boat was not in Israeli waters, and we were on a human rights mission to the Gaza Strip,” said Cynthia McKinney, a former U.S. Congresswoman and presidential candidate. “President Obama just told Israel to let in humanitarian and reconstruction supplies, and that’s exactly what we tried to do. We’re asking the international community to demand our release so we can resume our journey.”

According to an International Committee of the Red Cross report released yesterday, the Palestinians living in Gaza are “trapped in despair.” Thousands of Gazans whose homes were destroyed earlier during Israel’s December/January massacre are still without shelter despite pledges of almost $4.5 billion in aid, because Israel refuses to allow cement and other building material into the Gaza Strip. The report also notes that hospitals are struggling to meet the needs of their patients due to Israel’s disruption of medical supplies.

“The aid we were carrying is a symbol of hope for the people of Gaza, hope that the sea route would open for them, and they would be able to transport their own materials to begin to reconstruct the schools, hospitals and thousands of homes destroyed during the onslaught of “Cast Lead”. Our mission is a gesture to the people of Gaza that we stand by them and that they are not alone” said fellow passenger Mairead Maguire, winner of a Noble Peace Prize for her work in Northern Ireland.

Just before being kidnapped by Israel, Huwaida Arraf, Free Gaza Movement chairperson and delegation co-coordinator on this voyage, stated that: “No one could possibly believe that our small boat constitutes any sort of threat to Israel. We carry medical and reconstruction supplies, and children’s toys. Our passengers include a Nobel peace prize laureate and a former U.S. congressperson. Our boat was searched and received a security clearance by Cypriot Port Authorities before we departed, and at no time did we ever approach Israeli waters.”

Arraf continued, “Israel’s deliberate and premeditated attack on our unarmed boat is a clear violation of international law and we demand our immediate and unconditional release.”

marisacat - 30 June 2009

well last time they rammed the boat…

catnip - 30 June 2009
AlanSmithee - 30 June 2009
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13. catnip - 30 June 2009

I see Zelaya is speaking at the UN. Is that a common practice? Having an ousted prez speak at the UN?

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

he’s still recognized by the international community as the sitting president. IIRC, there was a leader of Burma who was still welcomed at international meetings after the coup.

catnip - 30 June 2009

Okay. Well, I imagine he’s pretty well screwed now. What is he (along with the so-called international community i.e. those with the cash) going to do to get his presidency back?

This looks rather ominous:

The UN General Assembly has approved a resolution calling for the reinstatement of ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya.

Mr Zelaya’s expulsion by the army on Sunday has been criticised in Europe, Washington and Latin America as a coup.

He says he will return to Honduras on Thursday, accompanied by the head of the Organization of American States.

Mr Zelaya, who is addressing the UN, thanked the assembly for what he called its “historic” resolution.

The resolution calls “firmly and categorically on all states to recognise no government other than that” of Mr Zelaya.

It was co-sponsored by a group of Latin American and Caribbean nations and was supported by the United States.

14. catnip - 30 June 2009

Speaking of the School of the Americas, it was quite the trip yesterday watching so-called progressive kossacks defending it in the comments to this diary.

marisacat - 30 June 2009

All of the Clarkies used to defend ti as well.

Good luck to them all!

15. mattes - 30 June 2009

I can’t remember who the idiot was that question me when I posted that the new A swine flu had the earmarks of a designer virus:

Did leak from a laboratory cause swine flu pandemic?

Same strain of influenza was released by accident three decades ago
Tuesday, 30 June 2009

A scientist holds anti-viral reagent. Nearly 6,000 Britons have been infected with the current strain of H1N1

It has swept across the world killing at least 300 people and infecting thousands more. Yet the swine flu pandemic might not have happened had it not been for the accidental release of the same strain of influenza virus from a research laboratory in the late 1970s, according to a new study.

Scientists investigating the genetic make-up of flu viruses have concluded there is a high probability that the H1N1 strain of influenza “A” behind the current pandemic might never have been re-introduced into the human population were it not for an accidental leak from a laboratory working on the same strain in 1977.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/did-leak-from-a-laboratory-cause-swine-flu-pandemic-1724448.html

16. marisacat - 30 June 2009

Al is UP!

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Minnesota Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Al Franken in Contested U.S. Senate Race [2:17 p.m. ET]

And I hope after 2010 election they have several more in the senate and a boat load in the House. shut down their lying games. (as if it would)

catnip - 30 June 2009

That’s Good News, Bad News for the Dems. Now that they have the magic majority number there will be no excuses for not getting their shit through congress.

Pass the popcorn.

catnip - 30 June 2009

Fallout: If the Dems don’t pass their shit, it’ll now be because Kennedy and Byrd refused to resign. lol

marisacat - 30 June 2009

I think the Democrats are rattled that Byrd will struggle to his feet someday and chastise them on the wars… he made it out of the hospital… but I have a hard time seeing Kennedy actually returning to the senate floor.

We shall see.

17. ms_xeno - 30 June 2009

Just went to check out the Rall cartoon that Madman mentioned earlier. For some reason, his page wreaks havoc on my security settings. I was still amused to note that for such a mild critique of Neo-Decider, there was still the inevitable screeches of “Right-Winger! Right-Winger!” against anyone in the comment threads who actually looks at the man’s record and its heavy-duty overlap with the policies of Decider I.

And this is why I prefer superhero comics to political discourse with Progwessives. I want/expect the former to be absurd, and can thus never be disappointed in them when they are. Unlike the routine idiocy so patently on display with the latter.

Time to swear off this shit again for another 3-6 months, I think. It’s amazing to me that I keep decreasing the doses, and yet the doses go a longer and longer way every time. Seems like there should be a mathematical equation for that. :/

marisacat - 30 June 2009

hey ms xeno! sorry you got stuck in moderation… out now
:oops:

ms_xeno - 30 June 2009

I bet the filter snagged the phrase “Decider I” because it’s really a name for some “enhancement” pill meant to make manly men more manly. Or whatever. :p

catnip - 30 June 2009

Hey you!

And this is why I prefer superhero comics to political discourse with Progwessives.

You have a point! But Obamalama’s true believers actually believe he’s SuperWHman so the absurdity blurs the boundaries between fiction and reality anyway.

ms_xeno - 30 June 2009

Yeah, well this guy’s a snappier dresser. :p

catnip - 30 June 2009

ewwwww….

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

a different link to it … since the Smirking Chimp apparently throws people’s browsers into a tizzy.

catnip - 30 June 2009

Thanks. I wouldn’t quite go that far yet but he’s pretty damn close.

AlanSmithee - 30 June 2009

Media Benjamin has that effect on people.

marisacat - 30 June 2009

hey hey Smithee!

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

LOL

18. catnip - 30 June 2009

Juan Cole is a radical Israel hater (1+ / 2-)

and thinks Islamic terrorism and Hamas are not a real threat, which could not be further from the truth. Thomas Friedman is a far better analyst of I/P.

“If someone was sending rockets on my house where my daughters were sleeping at night, I would do everything to stop it”-Barack Obama, Sderot, Israel

by deaniac20 on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 03:03:37 PM MDT

catnip - 30 June 2009

The comments in the rest of that thread are hilarious.

catnip - 30 June 2009

It’s ALWAYS been about Sex, NOT the Fetus

by thereisnospoon

Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 04:23:33 PM MDT

Is that about sex with those consenting drunk women he likes to speak of?

19. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

I tossed a post up about going to the Pride Parade in Chicago on Sunday.

20. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009
marisacat - 30 June 2009

I LOVE the “windshield defroster”… it is down about 4 or 5. what a hoot!

marisacat - 30 June 2009

and the fire alarm (2 down)

21. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2009

Waking Up Is Hard to Do

Serious events and acts are taking place everyday which merit serious social debate, yet because of the fact that our societies are deeply fragmented, broken and clashing between each other, we are unable to grant ourselves the necessary pause, required for conciliation and unity.

Because of this, we are easy to control as a mass of isolated individuals, which is held together by norms and regulations, bureaucracies, military, and police, and concepts such as the nation state, the church and the corporation.

If we are to stay in this model of society, I fear we will live in perpetual war until we destroy ourselves by not paying attention to the fact that something is drastically wrong.

22. marisacat - 30 June 2009

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