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How far fucking back are we supposed to go? 7 May 2010

Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Sex / Reproductive Health, WAR!.
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I don’t have an attribution for the photo, I first used it in this post in June 2007.

It seems fitting.

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Madman sent me this from Science Blogs Pharyngula:

The American Academy of Pediatrics has come up with a compromise on female genital mutilation.

International human rights organization Equality Now is stunned by a new policy statement issued by the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), which essentially promotes female genital mutilation (FGM) and advocates for

 “federal and state laws [to] enable pediatricians to reach out to families by offering a ‘ritual nick’,” such as pricking or minor incisions of girls’ clitorises. The Policy Statement “Ritual Genital Cutting of Female Minors”,

 issued by the AAP on April 26, 2010, is a significant set-back to the Academy’s own prior statements on the issue of FGM and is antithetical to decades of noteworthy advancement across Africa and around the world in combating this human rights violation against women and girls. It is ironic that the AAP issued its statement the very same day that Congressman Joseph Crowley (D-NY) and Congresswoman Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) announced the introduction of new bipartisan legislation, The Girls Protection Act (H.R. 5137), to close the loophole in the federal law prohibiting FGM by making it illegal to transport a minor girl living in the U.S. out of the country for the purpose of FGM.

I have not poked around to find out more on this… but I suspect a disgusting accommodation to fundamentalist Muslim doctors.

P Z Myers at Pharyngula also links back to the POLICY STATEMENT of the American Academy of Pediatrics for this:

In addition, “mutilation” is an inflammatory term that tends to foreclose communication and that fails to respect the experience of the many women who have had their genitals altered and who do not perceive themselves as “mutilated.” It is paradoxical to recommend “culturally sensitive counseling” while using culturally insensitive language. “Female genital cutting” is a neutral, descriptive term.

I cannot wait for the cosy little news segments on American, Western born converts, adolescents and wives who decided this was just a fine thing to do.

News at 11:  I cover my head and I had my genitals stripped.  Or nicked.

And what of their daughters?

The thread is a mixed bag, with too much back and forth about male circumcision vs fgm – as the thread dissolves to a battle festival, of sorts… but there is this:

I am sick of “compromising” with the horrors of religion.
PZ has said he imagines reducing religion to a harmless personal hobby, like knitting or masturbating.

I used to agree, but I’m getting to the point where I am hoping for the glorious day when this social disease and mental illness, “religion”, is eliminated from human culture altogether. The sickness and evil is too pernicious to ever tame down to acceptible levels.

I’ve been following this issue half heartedly in the UK press over the past few years (I can barely stand to read about it)… where they have tried to stop immigrants taking daughters ”home” (?!) at Christmas or summer (the preferred, longer recovery time away from prying eyes at school and elsewhere in the UK) to have the surgery done… that has been illegal for several years with a stiff prison punishment… but they have never convicted anyone of this. 

Additionally, communities have a “doctor” from the home community flown in to do the work, usually on several girls.  Group price.  This is not supposed to happen either, but again, it does.

The American Academy of Pediatrics mentions that Scandinavia indicates success with immigrant communities when it is banned (and I don’t much like banning, such as the bans on the niqab and burqa),  however it seems to work in Scandinavia, with

the penalty being loss of your child.

I know, harsh.  BUT, if that works, go with it.  Because the system in the UK is obviously not working, thousands mutilated abroad and an estimate of 700 annually at home (2009 report in Times Online).  Sufficient numbers that the NHS is planning to offer reconstructive surgery as an added effort to dissuade people from the practice.  I can’t see that really working, tho some women may be helped by the reconstruction.

And the whole thing kept hidden.

corriere della serra – february – 2003

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1. marisacat - 7 May 2010

Not to worry! The Thursday “plunge” on the stock market is being called…

historic.

And Obby will be offering his comments on what happened early Friday.

So relieved!

catnip - 7 May 2010

Any word on anybody taking advantage of that “glitch” to rake in bazillions of dollars? If a stock “accidentally” plunges to a penny and then up to $40+ dollars within minutes, it seems somebody out there would have taken advantage of that.

marisacat - 7 May 2010

well one financial advisor here said she put $400,000 in the market as she watched it fall…

NASDAQ said they were cancelling all trades made in those 35 or 45 minutes, last I heard NYSE said they were not. But that might be very old and now wrong news.

catnip - 7 May 2010

Considering the SEC is investigating, I imagine there’s not much hope in straightening out this clusterfuck.

2. marisacat - 7 May 2010

hmm Leading the Politico Playbook email:

DRIVING NEXT WEEK — Look for President Obama to name his Supreme Court pick Monday, and look for it to be Solicitor General Elena Kagan, a former Harvard Law dean.

The pick isn’t official, but top White House aides will be shocked if it’s otherwise. Kagan’s relative youth (50) is a huge asset for the lifetime post. And President Obama considers her to be a persuasive, fearless advocate who would serve as an intellectual counterweight to Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Scalia, and could lure swing Justice Kennedy into some coalitions The West Wing may leak the pick to AP’s Ben Feller on the later side Sunday, then confirm it for others for morning editions. For now, aides say POTUS hasn’t decided, to their knowledge. Kagan pic and bio

Whatever.

BooHooHooMan - 7 May 2010

Well ..Politico.. ya know.

LOL. Ben Smith is humping Kagan this morning, too.


Kagan under fire on Goldman, minorities

Solicitor General Elena Kagan is viewed, inside the White House and out, as the favorite to be nominated for the Supreme Court.

She’s a favorite in part because she’s so confirmable, with many allies on the right whom she made while broadening the ideological diversity of Harvard Law School. And she’s taken a couple of fairly hard blows from the left today,….

What craaap: “Under fire” …wha’ev indeed.
She could be ON fire for all it matters.

marisacat - 7 May 2010

iirc Glenn G said she hewed to skin color diversity, but like Obby when he was on the HLR, she elevated righties.

Two peas, Obby and Elena.

3. catnip - 7 May 2010

Khadr hearing kicks out 3 Canadian reporters

The Pentagon said the reporters from the Toronto Star, the Globe and Mail and Canwest News breached a ban on identifying an interrogator.

That’s despite the fact the man’s name has been widely available through a previous prosecution and conviction for detainee abuse.

He has also previously given media interviews. The Star and the Globe both said they intend to object to the military’s decision.

And speaking of the fucked up military, I saw a news crawl this morning stating that the Time Square bomber worked alone – according to General Petraeus. WTF? He’s a cop now?

4. catnip - 7 May 2010

Brrreaking: suspicious cooler in Times Square…

Could be a putrid foot-long hot dog attack.

catnip - 7 May 2010

Nope. It was Muslim-looking water bottles! All clear.

brinn - 7 May 2010

What in the LIVING HELL is a “Muslim-looking water bottle”!?!?!

marisacat - 7 May 2010

didn’t have its papers when asked for……………

marisacat - 7 May 2010

oh and Mexican if this were AZ… but Muslim in NYC.

catnip - 7 May 2010

I was kidding. ;)

If it’s “suspicious”, it has to be Muslim.

marisacat - 7 May 2010

Or Mexican, down near that border.

It is really awful what is happening.

5. catnip - 7 May 2010

A CBC reporter here called BP’s “dome” a milk carton – or outhouse (considering what it’s supposed to end up containing). Looks like a huge metal condom to me…

diane - 7 May 2010

Looks like a huge metal condom to me…

If I’m not mistaken , I believe that the ANSI (American National Standards Institute) specs and standards require that any serious structure shall be constructed in a form analogous to a Dick.

catnip - 7 May 2010

:lol: No doubt! You know how those engineers are…

diane - 7 May 2010

yup, all one has to do, is take a look at the Washington Monument…actually, if you’re in DC, it’s pretty hard to avoid lookin at the fucker…….

now that’s what I would call wishfull dreaming in its extreme………..

;0)

marisacat - 7 May 2010

I have heard in DC they call it Washington’s Penis or some variation of that………………
;)

diane - 7 May 2010

no doubt, I’m sure it would be quite the amusement to place some NSA apparatus in some of the DC men’s rooms…

oops…they already have?……

;0)

ts - 7 May 2010

I used to call it the huge erection when I was there. But that was just me.

diane - 7 May 2010

Disclosure: My dad, was an engineer, and when he was looking at that monument with my brothers, he proclaimed disgust for it being the phallic symbol it clearly, was meant to be, along with disgust for much of the DC symbology.

I sure miss him.

marisacat - 7 May 2010

lots of engineers in my family too… a symptom of this being Cali… ;)

One fo the things that Frank Lloyd Wright said that I DO agree with is that for a new country, we should have tried harder than to have a capitol filled iwth new relics of a Greco Roman past, wonderful as it (that past) may be. (viva the Greek Riots!)

diane - 7 May 2010

yup, same ole, same ole

diane - 7 May 2010

(side note to catnip: I wasn’t at all offended by your “engineer” comment though, seems like there are always those who go along with the dumbed down program, and those who question it, and satiric caricatures of all livelihoods abound; likely, fairly true generalisms, when applied to the whole of any ‘system’)

catnip - 7 May 2010

Glad you weren’t offended by my stereotypical comment. You know how we cat people are. ;)

diane - 7 May 2010

I thought it was pretty true to a whole lot of engineers.

;0)

marisacat - 7 May 2010

speaking of cats! I don’t always buy these stories… ‘the goldfish who loves to hang out with the elephant’ type stories…

but this one seems it might be true. at least there is more than one pic … ;)

6. catnip - 7 May 2010

Suspicious Package: TSA Worker Jailed After Junk Joke

Nice headline considering the story. lol

7. diane - 7 May 2010

A nick huh? LIARS, they should all be nicked in their genitals.

And yeah, surely is misogynist zealots,

This piece notes that the Koran, doesn’t even promote any kind of bodily mutation.

marisacat - 7 May 2010

all of these things are authoritarian imposition, imo. The burqa too. I doubt Muhammed gives a flying hoo hooo. In most areas it appeared in the 19th c.

Same here with the fundies (imposition by man hiding behind Gawd).

As moiv says, without a program you can’t tell the fundies apart.

diane - 7 May 2010

indeed.

Dr. Nawal El Saadawi, an elder Eqyptian woman, who went through all sorts of abuse in Egypt, has done an enormous amount of work toward battling the ‘religious’ abuse of woman in the Middle East for years. Egypt has apparaently recently banned FGM, I would bet that had alot to do with the battle she fought against religious fundamentalism.

diane - 7 May 2010

hmmm, and it looks like, from the result of a search, that the Randian Atlas Shrugged assholes may be trying to claim her as their own,…likely as regards to terrerists (though I didn’t bother to read the articles),……..I kind of doubt she would consider herself in their camp………..

diane - 7 May 2010

shit, the italics were meant to end after Atlas Shrugged (a worthless piece of shit.)

diane - 7 May 2010

thank ya for the italics fix hon!

marisacat - 7 May 2010

there is an exception in Eqypt, except for medical or hygiene reasons. E voila! And that is likely where ANY damned accommodation is headed.

And sad to say accommodations in law and family court accorded to religious Jewish communities paves the way. AND imo all the fucking fundies hang together, as one of the outcomes is repression of women. As one commenter at Pharyngula said, some red states are gonna wish they had gone for clitorectomy years ago, but will be slap happy te muslim fundies brought it to them. A very very slight overstatement.

moiv jsut had an innocent younger patient try to explaint o a fundie at the usual Thursday protests at her clinic, WHY she needed an abortion. She risked, with a second pregnancy to bleed otu and die (whcih nearly happened after the first) or paralysis as bone disintegration in her spine could nto support a pregnancy.

The fundie told then God needed her to die, if that happened… adn that she deserved it if it happened.

All of thsi utter shit grows out of the “conscience laws” imo (aside from religion itself). A big fucking sinking sucking hole.

diane - 7 May 2010

but will be slap happy te muslim fundies brought it to them.

no doubt there will be those shriveled dick fundies who dream about that worst case scenario of FGM, the stitching up the entranceway….

we are so very fucked…………………

diane - 7 May 2010

The fundie told then God needed her to die, if that happened…

in the last 11 years, I’ve been kinda glad, I don’t own a gun………..

don’t think I’d care much for prison.

brinn - 7 May 2010

I seriously do NOT know how moiv keeps from going homicidal on these people….

NEEDED her to die? Thank all that is sane for people like moiv…

marisacat - 7 May 2010

here it is from her email:

“My doctor says that if I have another baby, I could be paralyzed or even die.” The sorry old bastard’s response was, “If God does that to you, He has a reason. You probably deserve to die.”

Madman in the Marketplace - 7 May 2010

but I’m so confused, I thought He was a LOVING Gawd?!?!?!?!

8. marisacat - 7 May 2010

awwww….

Two-day stock massacre: Thursday, Friday losses wipe out all of 2010′s gains

Washington Post (blog) – Frank Ahrens – ‎1 hour ago

The carnage of the last two days of this week has wiped out all the gains of the year to date. If Thursday’s trading day was apocalyptic, Friday’s was …

diane - 7 May 2010

boo hoo

brinn - 7 May 2010

Yippie!!!

Madman in the Marketplace - 7 May 2010

very, very easy to wipe away a house of cards …

9. catnip - 7 May 2010

I like that third pic of the leopard and the retriever: I fart in your general direction.

marisacat - 7 May 2010

oh I loved the tail in that one… ;)

diane - 7 May 2010

Now that I look at that pic closer, yeah it does look like kitty pulled a silent and deadly, …… doggie looks like, woaaaa there, I like ya and all, but jeeeeeesh,…..care to give a warning next time…………….

speaking of imagined captions, the woman in the blue burqa in the first pic, looks like she might be saying: Fucker, you put us in a Trunk????? The other two look like they might be talkin, under their burqas, real bad about assholes on the sidewalk or in the car in back of them.

10. BooHooHooMan - 7 May 2010

Ah well, no more mojo for Bernie.
I’m startin’ to think THERE IS a factory in New York they make these motherfuckers..

Sanders defends Fed deal

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) vigorously defended a compromise stuck Thursday altering his proposed amendment on auditing the Federal Reserve, calling the current language “unprecedented and historic” even in the face of critique that he had “sold out.”

Speaking with reporters Friday afternoon, Sanders faced a series of questions on the last-minute changes to his provision, which came under intense pressure from the White House and top Democrats working on the pending financial regulatory reform bill. Late Thursday night, Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.) went so far to say that Sanders had “sold out” and that the new amendment “adds nothing” in terms of oversight.

“What I want is in this amendment, all right?” Sanders said with a hint of frustration. “Would I like to go further, sure? Would I like an ongoing investigation ordered of the Fed? Sure, I would. But 99 percent of the American people, they’re interested in what’s happened since the financial crisis—and that’s in the amendment.”

Sanders spoke on the phone Friday morning with both Paul and Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.), who were the two champions of an ‘Audit the Fed’ provision in the House. The senator from Vermont said the focus of the talks was on the mutually acknowledged goal of getting the Senate language passed and then taking the strongest parts of the House and Senate legislation and incorporating those pieces into the final bill.

marisacat - 7 May 2010

even whatshisname…. Cockcurn over at CPunch has the tick tock on Bernie. About half way down (more than, I see) his lead piece for the weekend…

A few weeks ago it seemed possible that Sanders was actually on the edge of genuine political achievement instead grandstanding with his habitual bluster. He and Rep Ron Paul of Texas were co-sponsoring a bill mandating a proper audit of the Federal Reserve. But Blowhard Bernie’s collapse came right on schedule. On Thursday a furious Paul issued a press release charging that Sanders had “sold out” on a measure to audit the Federal Reserve. Sanders had agreed to modify the measure in a way that requires audits of the Fed during the financial crisis but not of the bank’s monetary policy. Fumed Paul: “Bernie Sanders has sold out and sided with [Sen.] Chris Dodd to gut Audit the Fed in the Senate. His ‘compromise’ is what the administration and banking interests want.” snipwhip

Etcetera!

Link: http://counterpunch.org/cockburn05072010.html

catnip - 7 May 2010

Sanders caved on health insurance “reform” too. No surprise there. But he did give a good speech on the audit of the fed – so there’s that.

Maybe nudie Rahm went after him in the shower.

marisacat - 8 May 2010

Run!! It is a dead tree felled in teh woods… it’s a Democrat caving! Don’t get pinned under the falling wood!

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 7 May 2010

Did Q-13 Fox Suppress Police Brutality Video?

A freelance videographer who filmed Seattle police stomping an innocent Latino man’s head against the concrete and threatening to “beat the fucking Mexican piss out of you, homey,” says that Q-13, the local affiliate of Fox News, refused to air the footage because they didn’t want to hinder access to police sources.

The photographer, Jud Morris, then sold that footage to KIRO Television, which aired it last night—sparking an uproar about apparent police misconduct and triggering an internal police investigation—but Q-13 is now gearing up with lawyers, claiming the footage was illegally stolen from them and neither KIRO nor the photographer has rights to the video.

To prove that they own the footage, Q-13 provided a copy of the raw video to The Stranger, which we’ve embedded in a YouTube video below. In it, you can see a Seattle Police Department (SPD) officer stomping a Latino man’s head against the concrete, another officer stomping the man’s kneecap against the pavement, and the first cop threatening to “beat the fucking Mexican piss out of you” while responding to an alleged robbery outside the China Harbor Club on Westlake Avenue on April 17. Officers released the man when they realized that he wasn’t involved in the crime (which Slog wrote about at the time here), and the bloodied suspect then spoke to the photographer.

Shitty corrupt media, shitty thug cops … we’re so skrewed.

marisacat - 7 May 2010

“beat the fucking Mexican piss out of you”

Chrisssssssssssstian nation. Emphasis on the slither sound in the middle..

12. marisacat - 8 May 2010

From comment at Turley site:

Bdaman
1, May 5, 2010 at 7:03 am

JOHN KING, CNN: Let me ask you lastly. When something like this has people look back at political relationships. Of the top 20 recipients from the oil and gas industry ever in the Congress, you rank number 14th.

In the 2008 campaign you were the number one Congressional candidate in terms of receipts from BP after only President Obama, then candidate for president Senator Obama, and Senator McCain. There are some who say if you’re going to be the watchdog you should give that money back. [so should Obby! - Mcat]

SENATOR MARY LANDRIEU, (D-LOUISIANA): I’m not trying to be a watchdog for BP. I’m trying to be a good senator for this country and for Louisiana and to bring a balance to our energy policy, which is protecting our coast, fighting for energy security and a clean environment. I want to say again, John, this is important. We’ve drilled 1,000 deep-water wells in the gulf successfully. 1,000 except for this one. So the fact that do you it 999 right and then 1 wrong doesn’t mean you throw up your hands and run in hysteria. What you do is find out what went wrong – [whambulance for Ms Landrieu! - Mcat]

KING: Even if an ecosystem is destroyed for ten years?

LANDRIEU: It may not be destroyed for ten years. We’ll see what happens. I know there will be environmental challenges but we believe we have the technology to clean it up to compensate for people. Look, if New Jersey wants to give up their oil, if Florida wants to give up their oil, fine. But they’re going to have a crash in their economy. We’ve got to transition to cleaner fuels, but we need to have the oil industry safe. Transition, use natural gas as a transition and then transition to wind and solar. Even the secretary of energy, who briefed us today in a speech, said it may take 50 years. It’s 50 years, not 5 years or 3 years, not 10. It’s 50 for this transition. Revenue sharing which I’ve been saying the leading advocate of saving our wetlands and saving our coast, this is a perfect example of why I think I’ve been right and the senators along the gulf coast to say we do receive 100 percent of the risk. Let us share a portion of those revenues to preserve our wetlands, to invest in technology and hold the industry accountable.

marisacat - 8 May 2010

luv that her “remedy” is [the carrot of] an Alaskan style “revenue sharing”.

And of course the many many many poor people of Lousyanna and MS and AL SHOULD have revenue sharing from oil extraction…. An annual cheque would help a lot of people.

Won’t be happening! If there is “revenue sharing” it will go into a trust acct that then is STOLEN FROM.

marisacat - 8 May 2010

Listening to a caller on KGO, who says he is a member of a team working on alternative systems for capping this sort of break, blow, whatever.

He is saying if the sand in the oil abrades the “riser” and it breaks apart further (which is a scenario that has been reported over the past two weeks), there won’t be a way to cap / staunch / stop the flow at all.

It would be “two thousand million gallons” of oil perday, with little to no remedy for YEARS.

13. marisacat - 8 May 2010

I laughed so hard on this I was choking… (snips from Brad Delong at the link, snicker snax!)

lambert at corrente

Seriously, we saw Representative Kucinich prancing about the floor of the House whipping for an HCR bill he’d opposed on principle the day before. And now we see Senator Sandors — having sold out single payer already — caving on oversight for the Fed.

Those were your “progressive” icons, right there, and so much for them. Still voting for the Ds in 2010? If they’re losing Brad DeLong… I mean, who next? Krugman? BooMan?

Obby won’t be losing Booman. And Krugman reliably gets back on the Obby Horse.

[does this sound like children? Something to do with children??? yeah it does... Obby and Booman sitting in a tree... Krugy comes home and gets in the tree with them..................Etc ]

marisacat - 8 May 2010

More laughs! From the comments:

Booman is Very Annoying

By Walter Wit Man on Fri, 05/07/2010 – 11:29am

He’s now gearing up for campaign season and is pushing Dems to, surprise surprise, pre compromise: Dems need to tack to the right and keep their powder dry during the upcoming elections. This is no time to rock the boat, etc. [ Booman Tribune ]

Like Delong, he engages in the same weak justifications. On the one hand he seems to acknowledge that liberals got screwed but on the other he keeps trying to sell the whole “most progressive president” since FDR, or something. “It’s the best we can do now” seems to be justification.

Booman must buy kneepads by the gross.

14. marisacat - 8 May 2010

gnu

LINK

……………….. 8)


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