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Pledging allegiance to BP 23 May 2010

Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, 2012 Re Election, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, The Battle for New Orleans, WAR!.
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Workers hired by BP rake up globs of oil that have come ashore on the beaches near Port Fourchon and Grand Isle in southern Louisiana. (Carolyn Cole / Los Angeles Times / May 22, 2010)

People / Politico:

[B]ut just after placing responsibility on BP, Gibbs, who had a heated exchange Friday with journalists who asked about perceived government passivity, turned to his other flank to defend the aggressiveness of the administration’s response:

“We were activated [what is the Obama administration?  A secret cell?  -- Mcat]  the moment that this oil rig exploded. This has been on the president’s agenda ever since that happened. And we have mobilized every aspect that we possibly can in our government.

“There have been calls to every sector of our government to ask for help. That’s what we’ve done. My frustration was with the notion and the premise that — that we had sat by and done nothing, which I think is certainly not true,” Gibbs said.

As for Allen, he suggested on CNN that the federal government doesn’t have the wherewithal to manage the underwater oil leak without the equipment and expertise of BP.

“They have the eyes and ears that are down there. They are necessarily the modality by which this is going to get solved,” Allen said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

He added that he had “Tony Hayward’s personal cell phone number — if I have a problem, I call him.”   …snip…

They are phoning it in, Thad Allen to Hayward, Gibbs and the administration to “every sector of our government”.

Hard to think how it can get more passive or more awkwardly explained.

Lie down and die and get it over with.  This long death rattle is boring.

Pictures of the oil hitting the beaches, marshes, estuaries and cane fields are hard to look at…  what we see now, just beginning, will arrive with every wave, every tide for a long time.

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1. catnip - 23 May 2010

Did anybody watch the “Lost” finale? Thoughts? Or maybe we should wait til tomorrow for those who haven’t seen it yet…

marisacat - 23 May 2010

there seems to be an at least two hour run-up to the actual show here. Sort of defeats the purpose, I think.

It might be on by now…………………..

Madman in the Marketplace - 23 May 2010

no comment for those on the West Coast who don’t want spoilers.

2. lucid - 23 May 2010

Have I ever mentioned Treme? David’s Simon’s [The Wire] new show on HBO about NO post Katrina?

Wow… the man puts together great writers, great ensembles, and has great vision for the shows. There is nothing like a serial that is not only so well put together, but touches on so many local issues in a poignant manner.

They’re all up on the HBO in Demand – if you have access… This might even turn out to be better than The Wire [and hey, LEster Freeman and Bunk play key roles].

marisacat - 23 May 2010

Madman just sent me an email about tonight’s episode… (I have to wait for the series to be on Netflix… )

Madman in the Marketplace - 24 May 2010

I love the interplay between all of the musicians.

3. catnip - 23 May 2010
4. catnip - 23 May 2010

The Great Shame: America’s Pathetic Response to the Gulf Catastrophe

Now is the time for Democrats and progressives to muster (and master) the kind of outrage worthy of this calamity.

Right. Good luck with that. And Send Money Now!!

marisacat - 24 May 2010

i do notice some hillaryites ”seizing the moment”………….. as if marie antoine and louis would be better. gah

5. marisacat - 24 May 2010

A bad awful terrible piece at CNN, old numbers .. gah endless… but way down at the end is this…

And I think it is the truth. As Obby looks blankly into space. With the wretches, Salazar, Janet Nap, Lisa Jackson, Landry, Thad Allen etc., lined up behind him.

A visibly angry Taffaro said the delays threatened his parish’s ecosystem and the livelihoods of his people.

“I don’t have a crystal ball,” he said. “But if I were a betting man, I would be betting that the plan is to let us die, then come back and do $75 million worth of cleanup and close the book.”

Madman in the Marketplace - 24 May 2010

Salazar is WAY too close to the extraction industries to do anything else other than believe them and their statements of good intentions. He’s been their lapdog for so very long …

marisacat - 24 May 2010

yeah very bad choice. Very close iirc to that Norton woman, etc.

And even that dog Thomas Friedman said Obby’s energy people, like Chu, are, for all intents and purposes, in witness protection. Hiding.

Fuck them all.

6. marisacat - 24 May 2010

Pretty good piece in the Times-Picayune/Nola.com

PATHETIC…. and we all know where the various NGs are…….. the fucking wars. That was always one of the scenarios, something big, bigger than Katrina, would hit…….. and the NGs and the Reserves would be face down in the sand. Halfway round the world.

[T]he fear is that if Obama federalizes the response and supplants BP, not only will it be more difficult to get the company to pay for the response efforts, but the federal government may not have the capacity to get the job done…..

And BP is doing so well?

And this… geesh.

[A]s the well kill has been repeatedly delayed, rumblings have increased that BP is more interested in saving the expensive and potentially lucrative well.

U.S. Geological Survey Director Marcia McNutt bristled at that suggestion, calling on the gathered media in Houston to combat those perceptions.

“When it comes to containing flow or killing the well, whether you’re a member of BP, others in the industry or the public sector, we are all united in wanting the same result. We all want to kill this well and stop polluting the ocean. We are all on the same page with that.

This is the close. Shorter version: THERE IS NO HOPE WITH THIS CREW.

[M]eanwhile, the Coast Guard’s Landry said a panel of government and academic experts has been convened to establish a firmer estimate how much oil has been pouring into the gulf.

The government is also preparing an “armada” of research vessels to monitor the impact of the oil, as well as the chemical dispersants being used in an effort to minimize its effects, Landry said.

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson and Landry were to meet with BP officials Sunday night to discuss a government directive ordering the company to use “less toxic” dispersants in the cleanup.
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catnip - 24 May 2010

I saw Bob Dudley (again!) on CNN with Candy Crowley yesterday reacting to a clip of Markey(?) saying that BP shouldn’t be trusted respond with “those words hurt” (big pout).

7. BooHooHooMan - 24 May 2010

Yeh well, Fuck Obama and his New York Jewish Gangsters running the Criminal Division of the DOJ.

AIG Executives Won’t Face Criminal Charges, Lawyers Say

It pays to hire well, top to bottom, inside out.

marisacat - 24 May 2010

oh let me snicker… and match the tops to the bottoms. For maximum leverage.

Obby is too close to the Financial Services $$$… as are BillHill BidenJill and so on.

Wasn’t going to happen…

Wonder when there will be a battle cry, IF there will be a battle cry: You saved teh banks but you won’t save the coastal region of 1 – 4 states.

We shall see.

BooHooHooMan - 24 May 2010

I saw the most ludicrous comment this week over the firing of Blair, (fuck him too , DB, who cares , toady, piece of shit) – but the comment was from some GOP Sen saying Blair’s firing was evidence Ho-Ho HOLder had seized control of the US Intel community.

Hank Greenberg must be laughing his ass off. Hand in glove with The Rubinater and GS , AIG wrote a trillion and a half in bogus CDS for the mortgage market alone. (Hey we have no money now! Thanks for the 1/4 T! ) Which GS further derived..By what factorial, still, no one’s said yet!

And (USA!) pundits are gloating over EU squabbling over where?to?now? Israel may need more housing the way this is going.

marisacat - 24 May 2010

….but the comment was from some GOP Sen saying Blair’s firing was evidence Ho-Ho HOLder had seized control of the US Intel community.

oh i saw that… think it was kit bond or inhofe

8. marisacat - 24 May 2010

Prepare to ride at dawn! Rocket launchers at the ready!

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Reuters: Two American Tourists Kidnapped Near Yemeni Capital [5:50 a.m. ET]

For more on this and other breaking news go to ABCNews.com: http://abcnews.go.com?nwltr=bn

9. catnip - 24 May 2010
10. diane - 24 May 2010
marisacat - 24 May 2010

oh I am sure there is confusion ‘cuz I just read this… (ben Smith links to and quotes some fucking loon at Yglesias site)

May 24, 2010

Categories:Barack Obama.

‘Liberals have been pretty successful’

That reality seems to be sinking in.

Jamelle Bouie writes:

I need help understanding this strange impulse among liberals of Rosenberg’s ilk to understate or dismiss most of the work Congress and President Obama have done over the past sixteen months, especially when — as David Leonhardt noted in yesterday’s New York Times — it’s been a burst of activity that “rivals any other since the New Deal in scope or ambition.”

Indeed, it’s not hard to list the liberal accomplishments of the last year and a half….

(via Jonathan Bernstein)

Posted by Ben Smith 11:58 AM

YIKES. What accomplishment(s)? Esp compared to the NEW DEAL?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

diane - 24 May 2010

most of the work Congress and President Obama have done over the past sixteen months, especially when — as David Leonhardt noted in yesterday’s New York Times — it’s been a burst of activity [why, just look at BP] that“rivals any other since the New Deal in scope or ambition.”

well, I’ll say this, it’s certainly been a burst of activity …. and I guess looking at it, Leonhardt did use the word ”rivals,” versus, compares with….

11. CSTAR - 24 May 2010

Somebody’s ” liveblogging” the oilspill webcam. And let me repeat, beats liveblogging Obama.

BTW the eruption looks like it’s completely out of control.

marisacat - 24 May 2010

snips I saw of it this am, it did look much thicker and … somehow MORE of it than last week.

12. marisacat - 24 May 2010

Oh noes… they are talking of “trying” another “containment dome”.

We must be the laughingstock of the world.

marisacat - 24 May 2010

Lindorff in CPunch:

[BP] and other oil companies like Exxon/Mobil and Shell, which also have leases in Arctic Waters off Canada and the US, are actually trying to claim that the environmental risks of a spill in Arctic waters are less than in places like the Gulf of Mexico or the Eastern Seaboard, because the ice would “contain” any leaking oil, allowing it to be cleared away. The argument is laughable. This is not like pouring a can of 10W-40 oil into an ice-fishing hole on a solidly frozen pond, where you could scoop it out again without its going anywhere. Unlike the surface of a frozen pond, Arctic sea ice is in constant motion, cracking and drifting in response to winds, tides and currents. Moreover, the blowout in the Gulf has taught us that much of the oil leaked into the sea doesn’t even rise to the surface at all. It is cracked and emulsified by contact with the cold waters and stays submerged in the lower currents, wreaking its damage far from wellhead and recovery efforts.

Finally, as difficult a time as BP has had rounding up the necessary containment equipment and personnel in the current blowout 50 miles from the oil industry mecca of Texas and Louisiana, the same task would be far harder to accomplish in the remote reaches of the Beaufort, far above the Arctic Circle, where there aren’t any roads, much less rail lines or airports.

snip

Jesus… can you imagine a gusher up there, nothing and nobody near by?

I posted a few days a go a snip that Shell I think it was, is moving right along for drilling in the Arctic. A ruling by the 9th circuit here in SF did not even consider issues raised from the Gulf “spill”.

13. marisacat - 24 May 2010

Credit Obby if Jindal comes out of this smelling like a Southern Republican Rose…

[L]ouisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal has continually expressed his frustration with both BP and the federal government.

On May 2, Gov. Jindal requested that federal authorities and BP provide three million feet of absorbent boom, five million feet of hard boom and 30 ‘jack up’ barges. Of that, less than 800,000 feet of hard boom has arrived – less than a fifth of the request. About 140,000 feet of that hard boom is sitting waiting for BP to tell contractors where to take it.

“It is clear we don’t have the resources we need to protect our coast, we need more boom, more skimmers, more vacuums, more jack-up barges that are still in short supply,” Jindal said today. “Let’s be clear, every day that this oil sits is one more day that more of our marsh dies.”

The week of May 10, since it was apparent that neither BP nor the federal government had a plan to deal with this spill, Louisiana authorities also asked for the Army Corps of Engineers for an emergency permit for a specific plan to dredge and building new barrier islands to keep the oil from shore and wetlands. That also has yet to be approved.

“The decision-makers there from the Coast Guard on the ground, we’ve been frustrated with the plan to-date which has often been too late for the oil hitting our coast,” Jindal said today.

Jake Tapper

The report from Tapper also has a pic of Obby, PHONING IT IN.

14. BooHooHooMan - 24 May 2010

Obbie Poll Ratings at RCP

Gallup’s leg hump, that tachycardic “All Respondent” pooch of a poll ….. has flatlined over by the RCP sofa.

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Tho Still used at RCP in padding Obbie’s mix, ( RCP is R lean, go fig) Gallup was always good for +10 or so to countermand less than flattering RV and LV modeled polls on Ob…. Gallup now has him at 48% approval. Rasmussen has him at – 11 in the over under.

Hide him. Might work.

marisacat - 24 May 2010

Michael Wolff/Newser has a post that m a y b e Dow 14,000 and Unemployment at 6% can save Obby…….. but nothing else.

MW is not stupid politically, either.

I ahve no idea… I DO know most all polls lie, esp Gallup, whose job is to maintain Status Quo. At all costs.

S o m e t i m e s, I see a Pew poll I find a little interesting, just becuase they poll widely and constantly (which they all do I realise)… but other than that, I think polling is part of “chatter”.

15. BooHooHooMan - 24 May 2010

Priest Accused Of Abusing Boy, Turning Home Into ‘Erotic Dungeon’ Surrenders To Police

First Posted: 05-24-10 04:07 PM | Updated: 05-24-10 04:29

(AP) SAO PAULO – A Polish priest accused of sexually abusing a former altar boy in Rio de Janeiro and turning his parish home into an “erotic dungeon” has surrendered and is now in police custody, a public safety official said Saturday.

State prosecutors have accused Marcin Michael Strachanowski of handcuffing the 16-year-old former altar boy to a bed three years ago in the parish house where the priest lived and threatening to kill the youth if he spoke of the abuse.

Strachanowski arrived at a police station Friday night, said a spokesman for Rio’s state public security department. He spoke on condition of anonymity in keeping with departmental policy. Images published in Brazilian newspapers showed Strachanowski being driven away in a police car.

The 44-year-old priest was suspended from duties after the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Rio de Janeiro learned that a judge had issued an order Thursday for his arrest.

Suspended. What scum, the Catholic Church.
Who play it both ways. “We are not the Courts” …(flip) “different standard”…(flop flip)” we will honor the Courts” (flip flop) “bu bu but still a different standard”..(flop flip) ….”suspended” …..FLOP.
Thus it comes full criminal creep circle :
If the CC weren’t these people,
they w w w would push them right out.

marisacat - 24 May 2010

Can’t they SUSPEND him from the ceiling? With piano wire?

I could support that.

BooHooHooMan - 24 May 2010

Hmm. Labor AND Energy Efficient. I like it.
Seein as how they have the garrote or similar appliance available right there in the Dungeon/Rectory. And using the Church would cut down – Oops! ~ not the Display! ~ but on gas gobbling hearse costs. You’re always a step ahead, Mcat! :wink:

marisacat - 24 May 2010

less work than tar and feathering, quartering and drawing.

this is a rabid and feral church. fully. We are long past, way beyond mere pedophilia. Way past some sexual frenzy… And think of all the people who have nto come forth.

BooHooHooMan - 24 May 2010

I don’t think it’s even criminally insane. It’s evil.
IMO. ..and whoever noticed it back in the day got it right : the existence of Evil , human evil precisely, regardless of the assorted Abrahamic/ cloven footed mythical origins, and otherwise preposterous assumptions cum Deity ascriptions that have plagued mankind since….

It’s like that CC Cardinal who said “Satan” was in the Vatican.
Bullshit. Too Evil. :twisted:
The statement as well : Evil, a deflection.

16. marisacat - 24 May 2010

Just hearing a clip of Obby saying he will be “tireless” in working to save the Gulf.

We are jsut a rollingjoke. Nothing else.

17. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 May 2010
18. marisacat - 24 May 2010

That is a scream.. as are the two comments…

Madman in the Marketplace - 24 May 2010

pretty funny.

19. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 May 2010
20. marisacat - 24 May 2010

Comments from Sky Truth … the “new angle” shot has been around today, on news programs…

COLORADO BOB said…

There’s been a big change in the well bore :

Update: Here’s a screen grab showing the new hole in the seabed. That’s not the riser end from a new angle. This was grabbed while the ROV on the riser end was panning around. The BOP is over 600 feet away, so it is not that, either.

Major Change Down Below, post at Monkey Fister

May 24, 2010 4:03 PM

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John said…

Colorado Bob – if verified, this is an ominous development. It could indicate the well pipe/casing is breaking down and oil/gas is escaping into the surrounding sediment beneath the seafloor. That would make a “top kill” very unlikely to succeed.

May 24, 2010 5:22 PM

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COLORADO BOB said…

John –

Apparently MonkeyFister , and some others were watching the feed . Many threads discussing this , lots of explanations for what is being seen , but the well has been wild for over 4 weeks , grinding away at the casing.

May 24, 2010 5:35 PM

… and KGO is going ot have an hour at 8PM on

“Well, whine, what else COULD Obby DO?”

Double whine.

BooHooHooMan - 24 May 2010

what could Obby Do??

Invoke the Monroe Doctrine?

It’s turned out so…

:wink: :wink:

marisacat - 24 May 2010

I am hearing that 17, count ‘em! 17 countries have offered help but we hve said no, we have everything we need.

Aw shit! I had not noticed! Where are they, those brilliant engneering minds… and the equipment to save us here… where are they hiding???!!!

21. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 May 2010
marisacat - 24 May 2010

I think they all sing. Something about singing for your supper… or, to get to the other end of th cartoon moooovie.

22. BooHooHooMan - 24 May 2010

Who’s the Fuckin President?
Certainly not that poseur with his nose stuck up in the air faking gravitas at West Point last week.

Does it matter? No.
Maybe Petraeus can just pencil Ob the fuck off, too.

U.S. Is Said to Expand Secret Military Acts in Mideast Region
By MARK MAZZETTI
Published: May 24, 2010

WASHINGTON — The top American commander in the Middle East has ordered a broad expansion of clandestine military activity in an effort to disrupt militant groups or counter threats in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somalia and other countries in the region, according to defense officials and military documents.

The secret directive, signed in September by Gen. David H. Petraeus, authorizes the sending of American Special Operations troops to both friendly and hostile nations in the Middle East, Central Asia and the Horn of Africa to gather intelligence and build ties with local forces. Officials said the order also permits reconnaissance that could pave the way for possible military strikes in Iran if tensions over its nuclear ambitions escalate.

While the Bush administration had approved some clandestine military activities far from designated war zones, the new order is intended to make such efforts more systematic and long term, officials said. Its goals are to build networks that could “penetrate, disrupt, defeat or destroy” Al Qaeda and other militant groups, as well as to “prepare the environment” for future attacks by American or local military forces, the document said. The order, however, does not appear to authorize offensive strikes in any specific countries.

Obama is utterly superfluous. Pretty clear we’re getting an answer as to what happens as Empire falls, (shame . would’ve been nice to skip the whole hegemony thing) but pretty clear the shape of things to come when the money’s toast following a couple centuries of marauding and these last exceptional decades of weasels and willies, the dilettantes and political twinkies in tow…
What can Obama DO?!??
What else –
Ladies and Gentlemen, let’s hear it again for ….the GOONS!

In broadening its secret activities, the United States military has also sought in recent years to break its dependence on the Central Intelligence Agency and other spy agencies for information in countries without a significant American troop presence.

General Petraeus’s order is meant for use of small teams of American troops to fill intelligence gaps about terror organizations and other threats in the Middle East and beyond, especially emerging groups plotting attacks against the United States.

But some Pentagon officials worry that the expanded role carries risks. The authorized activities could strain relationships with friendly governments like Saudi Arabia or Yemen — which might allow the operations but be loath to acknowledge their cooperation — or incite the anger of hostile nations like Iran and Syria. Many in the military are also concerned that as American troops assume roles far from traditional combat, they would be at risk of being treated as spies if captured and denied the Geneva Convention protections afforded military detainees.

The precise operations that the directive authorizes are unclear, and what the military has done to follow through on the order is uncertain. The document, a copy of which was viewed by The New York Times, provides few details about continuing missions or intelligence-gathering operations.

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marisacat - 24 May 2010

I think for economy of everything, the R should just run Petraeus in 2012.

Get it over with.

diane - 24 May 2010

just lovely, never mind about legality, and I guess NYT can’t even be bothered with touching on the subject:

….General Petraeus’s September order is focused on intelligence gathering — by American troops, foreign businesspeople, academics or others — to identify militants and provide “persistent situational awareness,” while forging ties to local indigenous groups.

BooHooHooMan - 25 May 2010

the NYT can’t can’t even be bothered with touching on the subject – diane

Ya gotta love WaPo tho. Crickets thus far…
Who now must have a full time Big Brother consultant onboard…
Their current slate of offers. Followed by, I swear, a less than one sentence parenthetical grunt/ free association in translation each.
I can prlly hang on to the end…
::

Kentucky caveman
Robinson: Rand Paul can’t hide from his loopy beliefs on civil rights and environmental disasters.

(Rand: Caver.)

::
Obama endorses deal on ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’.

(Sure he does, Obama, Stand Up Bear, Castro Raver.)

::
Exasperation as spill continues

Administration faces growing questions about whether it should be taking more control from BP.

(Exasperation, Spill, oops – HONEY – Milk ~ CAREful.)

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China craves brand recognition

( China Fat, Need Factory Made Diet, Kirstie Alley.)

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Congress gives itself leeway

CAPITOL ASSETS | Rep. Moran’s investments illustrate permissive rules lawmakers enjoy.

(Local Living Section)

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Don’t fear turmoil in the market
COLUMN | Watching markets move is a great spectator sport, but don’t fixate or panic. Save.

Allan Sloan

* Asian stocks slide on renewed Europe fears
* IMF presses Spain for labor overhaul, budget cuts
* Bill brings new powers,
new pressures for Fed

(You Gotta Be Big Bro Desperate Kiddin Me)
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Protecting elderly from swindlers

Man pleads guilty to wiping out the savings of a Md. couple, part of a growing trend police say.

(Trust trust TRUST in Bank, GIVE To Bank, WORSHIP BANK, RUN TO THE BANK- LOL …..ETC)

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marisacat - 25 May 2010

the NYT can’t can’t even be bothered with touching on the subject – diane

Ya gotta love WaPo tho. Crickets thus far…

callers to a pro Israel pro war host (on KGO) are loving the Petraeus plan… they see it as a smaller, tougher war.

Go figure. But everything has gone so well up to now, why should things not go well.

diane - 25 May 2010

Speaking of “Blairs,” ya gotta love it, is that you Tony?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLEAN_TECH_BLAIR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-05-24-15-21-16>Blair to advise Silicon Valley group on climate

“He’s going to help us in many areas that techie nerds like us here in Silicon Valley don’t understand and tend to underestimate the importance of,” Khosla said….

I’ll bet he is…….I think everyone should add liar and war criminal to their resumes in Cali, maybe that’s the problem with so many that aren’t working, worthless resumes.

diane - 25 May 2010

sorry, meant to post as a new comment (and fucked up the link)

marisacat - 25 May 2010

not sure i know how to fix the link…………………….

diane - 25 May 2010

corrected link (I used “>” instead of an = sign after “href,” sorry):

Blair to advise Silicon Valley group on climate

marisacat - 25 May 2010

don’t worry about it.. thanks for fixing it…

diane - 25 May 2010

oh yeah, certainlly that too, guess that’s why it’s named the Washington Post.

I just thought NYT’s lack of commentary/Q&A on that last paragraph in the article, regarding using foreign businesspeople, academics or others for intelligence services was off the hook.

23. marisacat - 24 May 2010

ugh.. there is an engineer calling in to KGO… there is almost no way to reduce the pressure it has to just wear itself out, the ‘top kill’ has little to no chance of working (he described the several parts of the procedure)… there is over a billion gallons of oil beneath the surface, and will blow, gush, whatever for at minimum a year (even with a relief well drilled alng side, even with a relief well drilled on either side)… AND he reminds there is no “rig” anymore top side.

The whole thing may gush for 10 years.

Aftr the Eastern Seabord, ti heads for Newfoundland, Greenland, Iceland and the Arctic.

It can despoil much of the world.

Cheery no?

marisacat - 24 May 2010

Another engineer said that BP likely needed several rigs over this field, to deflect the enormous pressure. Sounds like it is an enormous field.

BooHooHooMan - 25 May 2010

An oceanographic analogue to ELE and near extinction level events.
An undersea analogue, however placcid or flatt the sea floor terrain,
As if someone got the bright idea to strip mine Vesuvius, the Soufriere Hills or Krakatoa.

Ain’t it great?!? Lancing Mother Earth skin! ( the sea floor)
Whatever happens we can burn it!

24. CSTAR - 24 May 2010

One the words I really like is clawback. Besides liquidating BP, wiping out all its shareholders, all bonuses of upper management for the las tn years should be clawed back. This is a crime against humanity.

What a dismal prognosis.

marisacat - 25 May 2010

yes I like “clawback” too…

BooHooHooMan - 25 May 2010

I’d prefer an English word of the Animal Planet variety that means – however it’s spelled that encapsulates
OMG!Pounce!MAUL!Throaty Lion Devouring Carcass Sound!

marisacat - 25 May 2010

Chomp ‘n Chew.

BooHooHooMan - 25 May 2010

Easy for you to say. :wink: :lol:

Heather-Rose Ryan - 25 May 2010

LOL, this is the first time I’ve seen or heard the word “clawback”. Cool. I like it.

25. marisacat - 25 May 2010

ugh… up thread I posted some comments from Sky Truth thread… that indicated a lot seems to have gone wong down at the riser, at the “leak”, down on the sea bed floor.

Naked Capitalism has more. I even read corrente (who he links back to) earlier…but honestly my brain is breaking down. I can’t take in any longer how big this is.

Comments at Business Insider/Clusterstock mntion that when BP saw how bad it was, they adusted the under water cam.

I bet they did…

If i manage to get a new thread up, will move this link (to Naked Cap.) forward…

marisacat - 25 May 2010

from the thread at Naked Capitialsim… it seems there is no “live” cam stream. Much of it is undated… and what is dated, the most recent date they are finding is 5/16. (or, 16/05….apparently they date dd/mm/yy on what stream there is)

So, clueless in our own country.

BooHooHooMan - 25 May 2010

Man made, courtesy of the Capitalists.
Elicited for profit, an oceanic ELE or near extinction level event.
Let’s sell shares!
And we were worried about asteroids and volcanoes…

26. marisacat - 25 May 2010

New

LINK

………………………………… :evil:


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