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Is that oil!? 25 June 2010

Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, 2012 Re Election, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.
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Governor Charlie Crist and Barack Obama at Casino Beach, Pensacola, Florida, June 15, 2010    [Jim Young/Reuters]

Is it headed here?  Who’s in charge?  Shouldn’t somebody be doing something?

(The gulls on the beach were listening…)

Just hearing on the news, Thad Allen saying they have a “very robust hurricane contingency plan”.

Reuters:

HOUSTON (Reuters) – With a storm threatening to disrupt oil-siphoning efforts at BP Plc’s blown-out Gulf of Mexico well, the U.S. Coast Guard on Friday said collection efforts would be suspended five days before the forecast onset of gale-force winds.

A tropical disturbance over the western Caribbean could deal a big setback to efforts by BP to contain oil gushing from the well, estimated by the U.S. government at up to 60,000 barrels (2.5 million gallons/9.5 million liters) per day.

Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen, the U.S. government’s point man on the oil spill, said it would be necessary five days before gale force winds are forecast to arrive to take down operations involving ships and other equipment siphoning some of the oil spewing from BP’s ruptured deep-sea well.

During this period, the oil could flow unchecked from the ruptured well into the sea for up to 14 days, Allen said.

The U.S. National Weather Service defines gale force winds as 39 mph to 54 mph. When referring to gale force winds, Allen mentioned “about 40 knots,” which is 46 mph.

“Our threshold to begin taking action is 120 hours before gale force winds are forecasted,” Allen said.

Two oil-capture systems siphon oil from the leak to a drillship and a service rig a mile above the well at the water’s surface. Both use fixed pipes that require days to disconnect and allow the vessels to move out of the path of a storm, officials have said.

The report goes on to say it now has a 70% chance of increasing in power…

Currently a Tropical Depression #1, but expected to move to Tropical Storm over the next 6 – 12 hours…

I did see one projection that shows it moving past the Yucatan, to Mexico, Texas.  And it could break up over the Yucatan, as well…

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BI picks up a report from OilPrice.com. I read it (OP) referred to as a hyperbolic site… hmm this seems pretty straightforward, restrained even.

[T]he winds of a hurricane are so strong that the normal interface between ocean and atmosphere disappears. The winds begin to generate large waves. Spray is blown off the top of the waves. That spray mixes with the air so that after a short time there is no real boundary between what is ocean and what is the atmosphere. If a large hurricane moves over the spill, this chaotic mixture of water and air will inevitably also contain oil. The oil will become airborne and travel with the hurricane.

When hurricanes make landfall the winds push the ocean onto the land in what is called a storm surge. The height of the surge on land is dependent on several factors. The strength of the wind and the rate of forward motion of the storm is critical as to how much water is forced up onto the land. The diameter of the hurricane will also determine how much water is blown inland. The wider the storm the more water is pushed in and over a greater area. If the water is shallow offshore, the surge will be deeper on land. Naturally, the elevation of the land is important as well. The water off the gulf coast is shallow. The elevation inland is only a few feet. This area is prime territory for devastating and deeply penetrating storm surges.

Should a major hurricane push the spill towards the gulf coast there will be nothing that can be done to stop it. No amount of planning or engineering will help. No number of visits to the gulf by the president or any other official will stop the inevitable. The storm surge will drive the water and the oil miles inland. Everything in its path will be coated in a greasy bath of crude. Even the wind may have oil in it. In New England, I have seen hurricanes and tropical storms that have blown salt spray many miles inland from the coast. The leaves of the trees eventually turn brown and fall off. In the case of the gulf it will be oil that will spray the trees, buildings and everything else in the way. How far inland this oily mess will blow is anyone’s guess but it will be unprecedented in its economic and environmental damage. snip

Carry on…  The Unified Command has it all in hand.

Read more: Business Insider report from Oil Price

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On a related matter:   what Our Leaders do on their day jobs. I am so tired of meddling, misguided, interfering  “reformers”, I could spit.

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1. marisacat - 25 June 2010

Oh Cheney is in the hospital. Did the value of his shares in Halliburton (and whatever else) hit a new low?

catnip - 25 June 2010

His personal blood bank went dry so he’s stocking up.

marisacat - 25 June 2010

Darth Vampyre….
:lol:

2. marisacat - 25 June 2010

yum. IOZ graces us with a Foodie Friday… Tortolloni in brodo. Or, as he says, Eye-tal-yan Won Ton.

I don’t cook (other than put a chick breast in the oven to roast)… but I lvoe to read recipes.

3. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 June 2010
marisacat - 25 June 2010

I think it is pretty dastardly.

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 June 2010
marisacat - 25 June 2010

I really felt invaded during the mobilisation over Prop 8 (HATE, as it gets called). And I have to say a lot of gays never “got” it. Some were even shocked he night of the vote…

And then they turned around and believed Obby and Knobby… and their promises.

Oh wellllllllll.

5. catnip - 25 June 2010

That pic reminds me of that scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail:

“One day, lad, all this will be yours!”

“What, the curtains?”

6. catnip - 25 June 2010

Big protests in Toronto. More planned for Saturday.

7. Jack Crow - 25 June 2010

Perhaps the hurricane can combine with a methane explosion in order to really screw all us little people while the ubers build their wait-it-out redoubts…

8. marisacat - 26 June 2010

oh it is all going so well…. KTUU up in Alaska

ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Some people are disappointed that BP is passing up an important tool in its response to the Gulf of Mexico oil spill. Shell Oil’s sophisticated cleanup vessel, the Nanuq, could be on its way to the gulf — but instead it’s docked in Seward, waiting for its next assignment.

Shell built the ship in 2007, and says it’s one of the most advanced skimming vessels of its kind in the world.

“She’s definitely the largest that we know of,” said Shell Alaska’s Susan Moore. “She’s got 12,000 barrels of storage, which is above and beyond what most other oil spill response vessels around the world have.”

With Shell’s offshore drilling plans this year put on hold by the Obama administration, the Nanuq won’t be needed in Alaska this year. But all it takes is a look at news headlines to find oil cleanup work.

“I saw the pictures of the wildlife in the gulf. This is terrible, and the company’s going to put its full might behind providing every resource it can to stop it, clean it up and restore the gulf,” said BP managing director Bob Dudley. snip…

Well kinda sorta.

“I can’t tell you why BP decided to pass on the Nanuq,” said Shell spokesperson Curtis Smith. “Of course it’s our preference that it be working in the gulf, but it will remain available should BP reconsider.”

“Me, personally, I lived in New Orleans for 15 years — I know what the people are going through, and I absolutely would like to have the opportunity to see an asset this valuable deployed down there,” Moore said.

For a company that says it needs every available resource, this is one tool BP apparently does not want.

If BP or the Coast Guard decide to use the ship, it will take 25 to 30 days to make it down to the gulf since it needs to go through the Panama Canal.

BP and the Deepwater Horizon Unified Command did not return repeated phone calls and e-mails seeking comment.

Very definitely NOT ‘all hands on deck’.

9. marisacat - 26 June 2010

And so on…

Gov. Bobby Jindal shields state's Gulf of Mexico oil spill records from public view

[T]he governor’s veto of the Smith bill sets up a scenario in which his agencies could shield documents from the public while at the same time turning them over to BP and its lawyers through the discovery process in the legal proceedings. It would be up to the court to decide which documents would be made public.

Jindal for years has lobbied to preserve broad exemptions for the governor’s office in Louisiana’s public records law. The House bill would have cracked open a category of records related to the Deepwater Horizon disaster and the state’s response.
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10. marisacat - 26 June 2010

–NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ); roundtable with Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA), author Sebastian Junger, Army combat veteran Wes Moore, Foreign Policy’s Tom Ricks and NBC’s General Barry McCaffrey (Ret.)

–ABC’s ‘This Week’: CIA Director Leon Panetta; roundtable with ABC’s George Will, the New York Times’ David Sanger; U.S. Institute of Peace’s Robin Wright, the Washington Post’s Rajiv Chandrasekaran

–CBS’s ‘Face the Nation’: Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL); Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI); roundtable with CBS correspondents Jan Crawford and David Martin

‘Fox News Sunday’: Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC); former Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR); roundtable with the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol, NPR’s Mara Liasson, former State Department official Liz Cheney and NPR’s Juan Williams

CNN’s ‘State of the Union’: NRSC Chairman Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) and DSCC Chairman Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ); Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) and Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI)

–C-SPAN: ‘Newsmakers’ (10am ET / 6pm ET Sunday): Rep. John Spratt (D-SC)
‘The Communicators’ (6:30pm ET Saturday): Rep. John Shimkus (R-IL) and Rep. Mike Doyle (D-PA), questioned by Congress Daily’s David Hatch … ‘Q&A’ (8pm ET & 11pm ET Sunday): Madeleine Sackler, Director and Producer of ‘The Lottery’

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 June 2010

I just love the way this is presented as though overcoming one’s irrational fears is somehow heroic:

Residents set aside fears about Islam to aid family

When 9-year-old Sofia Khan disappeared in Lake Michigan while vacationing in the Town of Holland this month, Rita Harmeling called the imam of the nearby mosque asking him to come and minister to the girl’s Muslim family.

Like many of her neighbors in the coastal communities near Sheboygan, Harmeling, a Christian, is suspicious of the mosque that opened recently in nearby Wilson. But she didn’t think twice, she said, about calling on the imam.

“I wanted them to connect with people who could empower them and help them, the way I would want to be helped by my own church,” she said.

Harmeling was among hundreds of volunteers and rescue workers who labored to find Sofia since she disappeared June 9, some setting aside their fears about Islam to aid a family in anguish.

Residents opened their homes to the Khans and their huge extended family. They sent food and prayers, lent their boats to scour the lake and walked miles of shoreline in search of the little girl.

Now the Khans, of Chicago, will thank the Sheboygan-area communities in an open house at the mosque Saturday.

Sofia’s father, Omer Khan, “wants to shake the hand of every person who helped,” said his cousin, Noor Khan of Naperville, Ill., who spent the last 10 days in Wisconsin.

“We want to express our gratitude to everyone who supported us, and to share Sofia with them,” Noor Khan said. “Her mom said it best: ‘She’s not just ours anymore; she belongs to all of us.’ ”

Sofia was kayaking with her family near Oostburg June 9 when a strong wind pushed her out into the lake. Her father swam to try to catch her but he could not, so he returned to call rescue workers. When the kayak was found, it was empty. Sofia was not wearing a life jacket and is believed to have drowned.

For the next two weeks, hundreds of volunteers converged on the community to help, without regard to the family’s religion.

“We just saw them as people. We didn’t see them as Muslims,” said Harmeling. “We just knew that we needed to help them in this terrible time.”

Every evening after hours of searching, the family gathered at the mosque to eat together and pray.

Some believe the anti-Muslim sentiment in the community, though by no means gone, seems to have abated since the tragedy.

“I definitely think it pulled some of those walls down and opened people’s eyes,” said Jennie Lund of Cedar Grove, who was not opposed to the mosque.

That Sofia – whose extended family includes Christians and Muslims, Indians, Malaysians, Italians and Scots – should be a symbol of interfaith and cross-cultural understanding is fitting, said Noor Khan.

“Sofia didn’t see people as a religion or race,” she said. “That’s what we learned from her.”

Ooooo, the scary “others” love their children too! What a shock. I’m glad the family got help, and that maybe the ignorant morons will shut the fuck up, but there is nothing admirable about exercising basic compassion and decency. That it is somehow considered newsworthy is a result of how deeply ill society is.

marisacat - 26 June 2010

That Sofia – whose extended family includes Christians and Muslims, Indians, Malaysians, Italians and Scots – should be a symbol of interfaith and cross-cultural understanding is fitting, said Noor Khan.

Somehow everybody ended up “cleansed”. So interfaith. Etc.

Madman in the Marketplace - 26 June 2010

the fight over that mosque has been really, really ugly.

ts - 26 June 2010

Sting should write a song about that.

12. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 June 2010

‘Don’t Taze My Granny!’

Instead of sending EMTs, El Reno, Oklahoma sent ten cops, because, safety first. Granny told them to get out of her apartment. Mouthing off to cops? That’s a tasering.

“Instead, the apparent leader of the police [defendant Thomas Duran] instructed another policeman to ‘Taser her!’ He stated in his report that the 86 year-old plaintiff ‘took a more aggressive posture in her bed,’ and that he was fearful for his safety and the safety of others.

“Lonnie Tinsley told them, ‘Don’t taze my Granny!’ to which they responded that they would Taser him.

So of course they tasered granny twice and stepped on her oxygen tube and grabbed her out of bed and cuffed her and then, well, they had to call the ambulance. But then they threw her in the psych ward for a week, so, game set and match, the police!

13. marisacat - 26 June 2010

Little Susie Sunshine… next he moves to the Gulf.

Vice President Joe Biden gave a stark assessment of the economy today, telling an audience of supporters, “there’s no possibility to restore 8 million jobs lost in the Great Recession.”

Appearing at a fundraiser with Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.) in Milwaukee, the vice president remarked that by the time he and President Obama took office in 2008, the gross domestic product had shrunk and hundreds of thousands of jobs had been lost.

“We inherited a godawful mess,” he said, adding there was “no way to regenerate $3 trillion that was lost. Not misplaced, lost.”
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14. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 June 2010

Gulf Emergency Summit: Glen Ford, Black Agenda Report; America Can’t Solve Crises Because It’s a Company-Owned Town

The United States can no longer engage effectively in “nation-building” in the one place on Earth it has a right and duty to do so: at home. These are the lessons of the 2010 Gulf oil catastrophe, the 2008 financial meltdown and the 2005 Katrina horror – disasters that history will rightfully conflate as symptomatic of the fundamental crisis of the rule of Capital. The U.S. has become a company town of speculative and extraction enterprises whose social and physical geography the rulers relentlessly appropriate, monetize and despoil – all with obscene abandon.

At the core of the100 or so activists that gathered in New Orleans for anEmergency Summit to Stop the Gulf Oil Catastrophe, last weekend, were veterans of the ravages of Disaster Capitalism following Hurricane Katrina. They had seen up close how Capital and its servants at all levels of government organized themselves as a public-private mob to drive Black and poor people from the city. They were witnesses to the crafting of a corporate consensus that the exiled poor should have no rights that conflicted with the imperatives of Capital – no right to return, no right to reclaim their lives, no rights that cannot be superseded by the claims and ambitions of the oligarchs. They had watched as finance Capital’s urban gentrification agenda was near-instantaneously put on fast-forward in New Orleans to ensure the permanent purging of the poor. A kind of perverse anthem seemed to rise from each corporate celebration of the city’s imminent and profitable rebirth: “Free the land – of Black people!”

Now the land and bayous and sea are made hostile to all life by the depraved indifference of voracious extractors who monetized, securitized and derivitaized the Gulf’s most deeply buried oil deposits years before the accursed Deepwater Horizon rig made its last, fatal thrust. The super-deep reservoirs of the Gulf were sold and their oil futures already leveraged to finance yet more assaults on man and nature, even before President Obama’s flip-flop on off-shore drilling in August, 2008, when he had the Democratic nomination in the bag.

Such world-shaping dealings have nothing to do with you and me, nothing to do with notions of democracy, because democracy does not exist in the United States, where finance capital and its extracting, hoarding, manipulating energy cousin, rule. There is no evidence of democracy anywhere that counts – not in the $14-plus trillion transferred directly to Wall Street, mostly by the quasi-public Federal Reserve, while the real economy in general and Black America in particular were stripped and gutted. No notions of an American social compact could deter the ruling class from acting out its pathologies on its own citizens when Katrina presented the opportunity. And no amount of public disgust at BP has moved Obama to behave as if he is beholden to the majority that elected him – for the simple reason that he is not.

Every element of the American political process is firmly in the hands of the oligarchy. The public only became aware of Barack Obama’s existence after he had been thoroughly vetted by corporate mechanisms of all kinds, including but by no means limited to the corporatist Democratic Leadership Council (see Bruce Dixon, Black Commentator, June 5, 2003). Obama’s informal – but quite binding – “contracts” with the oligarchs were concluded before he set foot in the U.S. Senate. The public was the last to know that the obscure politician Obama had become a “viable” prospect by corporate acclimation in the only “race” that counts – the early, business fund-raising contest. (The corporate consensus included BP, which gave Obama more money than any other candidate, and Wall Street, which was even more generous to the Nation’s First Black President.)

marisacat - 26 June 2010

If the R don’t manage or bother to take him down in 2012, it’s because they want a punching bag. None of it is going to be anything but ugleee.

As for the Dems talking points, wihtout bitching about right wing radio, Palin and how nobody loves Obby enough, they’d be lost.

catnip - 26 June 2010

There was a kerfuffle at dkos yesterday over a comment where the poster said Obama might be primaried in 2012. What was interesting was that 2 people on different sides about whether that comment was “appropriate” for the site (not kidding/no surprise) both agreed that a challenge would lose the AA community and that it would be a referendum on race. And that’s without even knowing who that primary challenger might be. Because there is no other Democrat in America, I guess, that AAs would support and any challenge to Obamalama’s supremacy would be all about his race.

It gets tiresome…

marisacat - 26 June 2010

Never miss a chance to whine.

15. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 June 2010
Madman in the Marketplace - 26 June 2010

Some background on the ad in question.

16. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 June 2010

So hopey, so changey, so full of shit

Stymied by political opposition and focused on competing priorities, the Obama administration has sidelined efforts to close the Guantánamo prison, making it unlikely that President Obama will fulfill his promise to close it before his term ends in 2013.

When the White House acknowledged last year that it would miss Mr. Obama’s initial January 2010 deadline for shutting the prison, it also declared that the detainees would eventually be moved to one in Illinois. But impediments to that plan have mounted in Congress, and the administration is doing little to overcome them.

“There is a lot of inertia” against closing the prison, “and the administration is not putting a lot of energy behind their position that I can see,” said Senator Carl Levin, the Michigan Democrat who is chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee and supports the Illinois plan. He added that “the odds are that it will still be open” by the next presidential inauguration.

And Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who also supports shutting it, said the effort is “on life support and it’s unlikely to close any time soon.” He attributed the collapse to some fellow Republicans’ “demagoguery” and the administration’s poor planning and decision-making “paralysis.”

marisacat - 26 June 2010

I read tho a couple of weeks ago that the Feds (Obama admin) plan to move ahead and buy the prison in Illinois, no matter what. Super max, Fed style, whether Gitmo closes or not.

Funnily enough, back after election, I figured the ONE thing he might really do, was close Gitmo as it was such a glaring promise and it still being open in 2, 3, 4 years would be glaring as well.

HA! The joke is on me.

catnip - 26 June 2010

That’s where the G8/G20 summits should have been held – Gitmo.

17. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 June 2010

Toronto on lockdown for G20 summit: the wall, snipers, and sound cannons

It’s important to remember that the supposed goal of the G20 summit is “to continue the work of building a healthier, stronger and more sustainable global economy.” And what better way to express that kind of egalitarian unity than to build a 10-ft-high, 2-mile-long fence to keep out the serfs?

These kinds of global gatherings have also become a playground for authorities to experiment with their newest, shiniest crowd control devices. Last year, I reported that Pittsburgh police demonstrated the latest suppression technology on protesters near that year’s G20 summit. The weapon du jour were sound cannons.

Unfortunately, a judge ruled on Friday that these sound cannons are okay for use at Toronto’s G20, as long as they’re not being used at “ear-splitting levels.” Whatever that means. The police rely on manufacturer studies about what is considered “ear-splitting,” which could result in permanent damage, even though independent studies report lower levels of noise can result in hearing damage.

Also, a lot of this is left to police discretion. What may be considered “ear-splitting” to protesters may not be “ear-splitting” to the uniformed, masked authorities who think the troublemakers can take a little more punishment for daring to disturb the peace.

Madman in the Marketplace - 26 June 2010

The only explanation is that world leaders know Capitalism is failing to provide for the masses, and they’re preparing for the inevitable backlash. Stuff like food riots are easy to manage because right now they’re happening in places like Haiti — thousands of miles away, and relegated to third world countries. But now there is resistance in the cities, too, and that demands an awesome response – not just for the actual threats – but also for perceived ones. The police are basically doing a ton of flexing right now – just to remind everyone who’s boss.

catnip - 26 June 2010

There’s a police cruiser on fire about a block away from the meeting in TO. Some reports of some tear gas being used against protesters.

catnip - 26 June 2010

Online news coverage: CBC and CTV.

catnip - 26 June 2010
18. catnip - 26 June 2010

At least 3 police cars up in flames. Gotta wonder what the hell the cops are doing leaving their cars unattended.

19. catnip - 26 June 2010

Oh, there’s Michelle wearing some sort of white poodle dress. Mon dieu. The other day she was skipping in shiny silver shoes. I’m no fashionista but wtf?

marisacat - 26 June 2010

Did she go to Toronto?

I am just catching up on the news… slept from late morning to about an hour ago…………… ;)

catnip - 26 June 2010

Yup. They were doing photo ops not long ago. Our PM’s wife was wearing an equally ridiculous-looking dress.

The main cable news channels – CBC and CTV – have been following the protests non-stop all day. Not hearing much at all about what’s actually happening at the summit. Not that there’s anything newsworthy to report anyway.

Should be an interesting nite in TO. And when this is all over, that city – which doesn’t support the Cons as it is – will be howling even louder about all of this bullshit.

Side note: A Starbucks site had its windows broken. You would think that after they’ve been attacked so many times they would have boarded their windows. Fools.

marisacat - 26 June 2010

Obby sounds just totally out of it. There was a snip on the national news just now… some declaration of eternal friendship he made in the sit down photo op with Cameron. He sounded sedated, frankly.

And I sw the white dress… well OK… whatever. Puffy and pouffy… I read several notable male (Merkel, Kircherner) and female (Cameron, Carla Bruni.. and Zuma… and he has 3 to choose from!!) spouses gave this a miss. I would think there are too fucking many of these useless gang bangs… Seems there have been 4 or 5 just under this current Pretzel.

It is all so thin and wearing out.

catnip - 26 June 2010

Fricking hilarious at dkos yesterday. bwd had pics of Obamalama at the summit with the other leaders talking to him.

Oh look! He’s the focus of everybody’s attention!

They’re all looking at him for leadership!

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Pathetic: it’s what’s for dinner.

20. catnip - 26 June 2010

They’re showing the Starbucks on TV which is being looted and it looks like somebody’s trying to start a fire. Hello? The windows were broken hours ago. Where are the owners?

And here’s the TO police chief having a presser. Wag that finger.

catnip - 26 June 2010

75 arrests so far.

They’re also arresting on sight – going by photos they have of protesters. Pre-emptive fascism.

marisacat - 26 June 2010

it is not a big job to board up windows, either.

catnip - 26 June 2010

Sheesh. One woman was almost trampled by a police horse and a journalist was punched in the face by a cop.

marisacat - 26 June 2010

Journalist, one that gets out i the streets, anywhere, is considered a renegade. I mean, why would any sane person leave a comfy studio, all kited out with modern comunications? Email? Cell? Blackberry… and so on. Why not sit when you don’t have to stand?

Etc.

catnip - 26 June 2010

Irony. 2 photographers from the major RW newspaper were arrested. Ouch.

Madman in the Marketplace - 26 June 2010

it all sounds amazingly out of control … any idea how much of the violence is due to police action?

catnip - 26 June 2010

We’ll soon find out. It sounded like some of them were being complete asses in one of the free speech zones.

marisacat - 26 June 2010

Our local news reported that the black clad persons stripped off the outer clothing and sort of melted into the general population at the protest…

catnip - 26 June 2010

Yup. And then the cops tried to chase them down later.

21. BooHooHooMan - 26 June 2010

Pensacola Beach Covered in Oil

marisacat - 26 June 2010

it’s coming in hot and heavy at Pensacola… and inside Mobile Bay… and fresh waves of oil back in LA. Chandeleur – where there is a big nesting area.

The threads at The Oil Drum, wehre a lot of the interested parties/commenters live along the Gulf coast is vey informative.

BUT obviously lying eyes… I see a BP “reporter” at the NYT says all is good. Lotsa wildlife and tons of fishin’. Come on down!!

No boiling turtles, no burning fish and crabs. No fleeing sharks and dolphins, ending up in the same inland straits… Lyin’ eyes!

marisacat - 26 June 2010

oh and the other thing is the smell.

It seems it precedes the oil… the smell is heading down the coast of FL.

22. catnip - 26 June 2010

The protest estimate is 10,000 people. That’s damn impressive.

150 arrests reported so far.

23. marisacat - 27 June 2010

New

LINK

………………… 8O


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