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Just a thread…. 12 October 2010

Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, 2012 Re Election, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, WAR!.
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To raise awareness of the plight of the endangered Egyptian vulture, WWF-Spain has launched a project called El Viaje del Alimoche (The Journey of the Egyptian Vulture), which allows users to track the migratory journey of four of the rare birds through a real-time online platform    [Chris Hellier/Corbis]

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Well.  A little more than ‘just a thread’ as it happens, I just saw this over at Angry Arab…. sums it up simply and succinctly:

War on terrorism?

“Governments and law-enforcement agencies around the world are using the war against terrorism as a pretext to clamp down on legitimate protest and free themselves from constraints on their activities, an international conference on human rights heard this weekend in Montreal.  

Didier Bigo, professor of international relations at Sciences Po University in Paris, said those claiming to know who terrorists are and what their next move will be are often given additional “freedom to manoeuvre” within the system, with little clear justification.  “Anti-terrorist legislation is used to block normal problems,” he said at the conference hosted by McGill University.”     (thanks Olivia)

Posted by As’ad at 9:57 AM

Blessed by Gawd, we are. Over and over.

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1. marisacat - 12 October 2010

It’s ages since I watched Charlie Rose… think the last time was that formerly somewhat lefty playwright, forget his name who is now a Big TIme Rightie… but stumbled today on Andrew Sullivan with Rose.

What utter ossification, both sides of the table. I did learn however, that Sully now has 4 wee “helpers”. Up from 2.

He refers to them as “leaf cutter ants”… he sends them out onto the netteries to hunt and bring back, he then “makes sense” … of the leaf snips I guess.

Can it all get more precious?

marisacat - 12 October 2010

His name came to me: David Mamet. Or Mahmet…

2. marisacat - 12 October 2010

Judge orders ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ injunction

By JULIE WATSON (AP) – 15 minutes ago

SAN DIEGO — A federal judge issued a worldwide injunction Tuesday stopping enforcement of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, ending the U.S. military’s 17-year-old ban on openly gay troops.

U.S. District Court Judge Virginia Phillips’ landmark ruling was widely cheered by gay rights organizations that credited her with getting accomplished what President Obama and Washington politics could not.

U.S. Department of Justice attorneys have 60 days to appeal. Legal experts say they are under no legal obligation to do so and could let Phillips’ ruling stand.

The federal government is reviewing the ruling and has no immediate comment, said Tracy Schmaler, spokesman for the Department of Justice.

Madman in the Marketplace - 12 October 2010

I sorta expect Holder to quote Santorum in the appeal, dire warnings about unwanted sodomy in the barracks, war dogs molested … maybe Bishop Long can give him some pointers on scary positions to put into his fundie-pandering appeal.

marisacat - 12 October 2010

McClurkin can consult. “How close is too close?” and 9 other pressing questions about homos in the barracks..
:lol:

Madman in the Marketplace - 12 October 2010

they can all meet on the down-low, in the Justice Department gym to discuss it.

3. marisacat - 12 October 2010

I heard today, and it may be old news as I did not follow closely… but at least two of the Chilean miners, about to see the light of day again…. two miners have had two wives, each, show up.
:lol:

Bet they come out v e r y slowly.

4. marisacat - 12 October 2010

Gosh Golly.

Meg and Jerry are actually mixing it up, a little.

Their last debate, 3 weeks out.

5. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 October 2010

ntim, but some entertaining tidbits none-the-less:

More Tea Party Hilarity

I can’t even tell you how many people I interviewed at Tea Party events who came up with one version or another of the Joe Miller defense. Yes, I’m on Medicare, but… I needed it! It’s those other people who don’t need it who are the problem!

Or: Yes, it’s true, I retired from the police/military/DPW at 54 and am on a fat government pension that you and your kids are going to be paying for for the next forty years, while I sit in my plywood-paneled living room in Florida watching Fox News, gobbling Medicare-funded prescription medications, and railing against welfare queens. But I worked hard for those bennies! Not like those other people!

This whole concept of “good welfare” and “bad welfare” is at the heart of the Tea Party ideology, and it’s something that is believed implicitly across the line. It’s why so many of their political champions, like Miller, and sniveling Kentucky rich kid Rand Paul (a doctor whose patient base is 50% state insured), and Nevada “crazy juice” Senate candidate Sharron Angle (who’s covered by husband Ted’s Federal Employee Health Plan insurance), are so completely unapologetic about taking state aid with one hand and jacking off angry pseudo-libertarian mobs with the other.

They genuinely don’t see the contradiction, much in the same way that some Wall Street people genuinely can’t see the problem with their company, say, taking $13 billion in bonuses in the same year that they accepted $13 billion in state bailouts. You wave a pitchfork at them with little post-its of the relevant figures taped to the ends, and ask them to confess – and they can’t, because they literally don’t see your point.

After all, these bankers will protest, we needed to pay out those billions in bonuses to stay competitive! It’s not like we’re just taking the money willy-nilly, like those dreadful people in ratty army coats who shop with food stamps in the bodega downstairs!

marisacat - 12 October 2010

I heard a whole slew of Obama lovers … Democrats, several of them self professed to be on Soc Security, call into KGO last night to defend the second year of no annual adjustment to Soc Sec. Not the first hour spent with that sort of propaganda…

And you know, poor historic man, so put upon. A lot of commentary that people need to understand the “common good”.

Even some who claimed prices have NOT gone up or people who cannot properly live with in their means are THE PROBLEM.

Very sanctimonious they were too.

It’s not like we’re just taking the money willy-nilly, like those dreadful people in ratty army coats who shop with food stamps in the bodega downstairs!

Seems to be a catching disease.

Madman in the Marketplace - 12 October 2010

it’s endemic to American culture, sadly.

6. catnip - 12 October 2010

They should have stuck the Dems in a mine shaft for 69 days and then rescued them. Then at least they’d have some hope of winning in November. ;)

catnip - 12 October 2010

Mind you, that’s assuming someone would have actually tried to rescue them…

Madman in the Marketplace - 12 October 2010

they’re pretty good at digging themselves into holes …

marisacat - 12 October 2010

I think they would be left down there….

ts - 13 October 2010

Rescuers would have drilled down to get them and found they’d dug the shaft 1000 feet deeper.

marisacat - 13 October 2010

Soo true!

Speaking of Dems digging holes… [snicker], there is, if anyone can stand it, a NYT Mag piece up, interviews with Ob and various West Wing staffers and aides.

God help them, they are LOST. More than lost.

marisacat - 12 October 2010

Luckier than the Democrats…. :lol:

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

The First of 33 Chilean Miners Trapped Underground Since August Has Reached the Surface [11:11 p.m. ET]

catnip - 12 October 2010

Quite the moment.

Madman in the Marketplace - 12 October 2010

very cool

ts - 13 October 2010

I heard Obama’s speech today where he was praising the American made machinery (well, the company that made the machine is nominally incorporated in the U.S.)

“From the NASA team that helped design the escape vehicle to American companies that manufactured and delivered parts of the rescue drill to the American engineer who flew in from Afghanistan to operate the drill.”

Because it can’t just NOT be about us.

Just don’t think about how long the miners would be down there had this happened in West Virginia.

marisacat - 13 October 2010

Well our last go round in WV saw, iirc, 29 deaths. AND the one before that, still with Manchin in the governor’s seat, saw lies to the families that all was fine. Then it was not. One dead after the other….

And as I was emailing with a friend today, not like Obby could bear to embrace a fisherman, a fishing boat deck hand. A kitchen worker, an oyster shucker. He so delicately fingered the clean sand.

And his wife and his aides and cabinet members appeared much like the BP pretzel. They all wanted THEIR lives back. Sooner rather than later.

marisacat - 13 October 2010

Speaking of which, I am not a fan of Jeralyn at Talk Left, but just think if Ob had managed to say this, from her post today http://www.talkleft.com/ :

The third miner has just surfaced. If you aren’t watching, turn it on. It’s heartwarming and real. Everyone is calm and joyous.

The President and First Lady of Chile are right there, they seem so down to earth and connected to the relatives, the workers and the miners. Watching the President physically bear-hug the miners as they emerge is amazing. His smile is a mile wide.

The emotion on everyone’s faces is palpable. It’s rare to see such expressions of pure joy these days.

A lot of expertise and planning went into this rescue and it shows. Congratulations, Chile (and those from other countries who helped.) You’ve done yourselves proud. The world is watching and we are all impressed and smiling with you.

catnip - 13 October 2010

From what I’ve seen, the Chilean prez and his wife have hung in there through all of these rescues. That’s quite something.

marisacat - 13 October 2010

yeah they have, still there for 31, 32 and 33……….

7. marisacat - 12 October 2010

gah. I read too he got the name wrong, of a pol in FL he went down there to campaign for……….

TOWN HALL: President Obama speaking at a town hall at George Washington University:

“There’s a lot of anger and there’s a lot of frustration and a lot of fear across the country. And one of the challenges of this election is to make sure that we understand that as difficult as things are …nnnnnnnnnnnnnumb we are numb……….

….and have been over the last two years, we are moving in the right direction. zzzzzzzzzzzzz

…And the question is going to be whether once again hope overcomes fear gagagagoogooodriveldrool.

Because what essentially the other side has decided is that they’re going to try to ride fear and anxiety all the way to the ballot box on November 2. And frankly, and I’m just going to be blunt,

nononononononplease stop! we are begging………..

some on our side have said to themselves ………. gaaaaaaaa aargh gaaaaaaaa… and excitement and energy as we did that first time around.”

stop………………………..

8. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 October 2010
9. marisacat - 13 October 2010

hmm from a very boring comment thread in “The Arena” at Politico, on whether Meg can make some points of the useless “whore” flap….

Craig Shirley

Reagan biographer and president, Shirley and Banister Public Affairs :

Looks like Governor Moonbeam mooned the women of California.

Not that I care what Jerry calls Meggy, or Meggy calls Jerry.

catnip - 13 October 2010

CNN’s showing the “I am not a witch” vs “Yes, you are” debate tonite, I see.

catnip - 13 October 2010

Coons kind of seems like a wienie.

catnip - 13 October 2010

Oh! He wears a flag pin every day! Well, that ends that debate.

catnip - 13 October 2010

I think O’Donnell would just whine everybody to death if she was in the senate. My Dog, she’s annoying.

marisacat - 13 October 2010

they sent Ob in to save him. Why not Biden, I wonder.

Good luck to them all!

Whatever hurts more………………..

catnip - 13 October 2010

Glad they cut that off to show the last couple of miners coming up. This will be the most viewers Parker/Spitzer ever gets before it’s canned for poor ratings eventually.

10. diane - 13 October 2010

rat feces?

EPIC Launches Privacy 2010 Campaign, …. and then, EPIC, refers anyone interested, …..to joining a facebook page, or reading the archives of what EPIC acknowledges are creepy uses of technology (though, it appears to my eyes, they’ve yet to include the embedded RFID Tee shirt chips required for certain Richmond CA children, or, done anything to staunch privacy violations (at least in any visible manner)).

Pertaing to the above link, if you’re interested in their campaign (though EPIC has apparently been around, in one non profit form, or another, since 1994, I’ve seen no proof that they have done anything to staunch the exponentially increasing privacy violations, ….despite their alumni …..), it appears that you have the link option of (a.): joining up on a ”Facebook” (can’t we say immediate privacy violation right there, at this point?) “cause page,” (1), or, (b): clicking: http://www.privacy2010.org/ this link, (2) to find out more!

(1) A sampling of “causes dotcom,” the “root” URL of the link provided for the Facebook Cause page… (after you scroll pass the, meant to be heart tweeking, piccies, none of which pertain to the US (because those fallen, and falling, through the cracks in the US need to understand the misery wrought on Third World Countries by their masters in the US, and then, FEEL MUCH BETTER ABOUT THEIR OWN DICKING AT THE HANDS OF THOSE ROBBER BARONS?)):

Businesses
Build brand recognition and reputation by working with Causes. Our tools will help you achieve your goals.

….

We like making tools that change the world. Can you like us?

No “about” page, nor, “501” info page , not to mention how much a dot com page simply titled “causes” might cost, couldn’t begin to count how many would almost die for that dot com page.

(2) The Privacy 2010dot org link is guaranteed to remind you, at a gut level, of many (though certainly not all) of the proliferating privacy violations going on, referring to their own ancient archives, yet not referring to any progress, whatsoever, EPIC has made, on those grounds, in their 16 year Ivy League existence.

This line, was priceless, referring to themselves, in their own presser, as a third party, who might (yet might not,…. (please refer to the keyword, “said,” below)), “release a “Privacy Report Card” for the Obama administration.

EPIC said that it will release a Privacy Report Card for the Obama administration with grades on medical privacy, cyber security, consumer privacy, and civil liberties.

diane - 13 October 2010

sorry, link correction for:

or, (b): clicking …….this link

corrected link

(I should add that many of the EPIC website writings are quite interesting, but I don’t see that they are really doing anything about the problems they elucidate, or, that they really want to.)

marisacat - 13 October 2010

EPIC said that it will release a Privacy Report Card for the Obama administration with grades on medical privacy, cyber security, consumer privacy, and civil liberties.

can’t wait…. :roll:

diane - 13 October 2010

truly, and what will EPIC have done as punishment for a bad report card?,… give the Obama admin a “hall detention,” …make them write 100 times on their iphone/android,: “We will not sodamize the privacy legisation/reasonable “civil” privacy expectation of the populace against their will” ….?

marisacat - 13 October 2010

The Obama administration will have to raise their hand and ask for a hall pass. And a pass to the bathrooms. For half a day.

hmm I do think Obby was charged with EMOTING more. Keeping the ever ruminate electorate in a spin dizzy game of telling him they love him, etc.

Didn’t quite work out.

diane - 13 October 2010

shit, sorry again,

hopefully, a “corrected link,” this time :

corrected link

11. catnip - 13 October 2010

If I was the billionaire Chilean prez, I’d make sure those miners were set for life courtesy of my personal bank account.

marisacat - 13 October 2010

apparently they don’t need to work for life… a “wealthy miner” has gifted each with 20K… and apparently the Chilean government made sure the men already, while they were down in the mine, have been counseled by an atty, so there is no splits fights double dealing etc in book and movie deals.

Over all, quite wise, I think.

One, an older miner, Gomez was his name, think he is 61, I read he nd his wife are activists for mine reform… so let’s see if Chile comes thru on that.

Otherwise, all very amazing.

catnip - 13 October 2010

That’s good to hear. They need to be well taken care of.

I also heard they’ve agreed not to talk about the first 17 days before they were discovered to have survived. That must have been extremely traumatizing.

marisacat - 13 October 2010

oh that is very wise….

12. marisacat - 13 October 2010

Remember Baby Fat Hunter in your prayers.

Geesh. Tho I am guessing she’d really rather you tilled and smoothed the beach sand for her.

Madman in the Marketplace - 13 October 2010

I laugh that they don’t seem to understand there are plenty of people praying to Jeebus that her hubby loses.

marisacat - 13 October 2010

yeah, I thiought it was pretty damned funny.

[T]hen the first lady, a lifelong churchgoer, made the kind of subtle but explicitly religious appeal that was so common in the Bush years, but has been uncommon during the 21 months she and her husband have been in the White House.

“We put this man in office; we’re all proud of Barack and his accomplishments,” she told Joyner, whose show is popular among black voters. “Everybody I know in our communities are praying for us. Every day we feel that and let me just tell your listeners it means the world to us to know that there are prayer circles and people who want to keep the spirits clean around us.” …

Honestly I think we hear about religion a LOT under the Obama Admin. More than with Bush.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43559.html

Madman in the Marketplace - 13 October 2010

uncommon my ass …

catnip - 13 October 2010

“keep the spirits clean”?

WTF?

marisacat - 13 October 2010

religious gibber drool. my best guess.

13. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 October 2010

should have stayed at the palace?

On Day One of Rahm Emanuel’s weekend transformation from power-behind-the-throne at the White House to glad-handing big-city pol, there were awkward handshakes, unplanned stops that surprised even his handlers and two sets of protesters, including one that blocked his car.

And if you were looking for symbolism, there was the moment when Emanuel finished shaking hands with commuters at a Chicago Transit Authority station and shoppers at a supermarket and climbed back into his black Dodge Caravan, in which he could be seen vigorously washing his hands — in clear view of television cameras and reporters.

De peasants, dey so DURTY.

marisacat - 13 October 2010

oh god. maybe he touched an ARAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Madman in the Marketplace - 13 October 2010

LOL … could be, and no way to call in the IDF to protect him.

14. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 October 2010
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marisacat - 13 October 2010

I know that should be depressing but it just feels like one more smack.

16. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 October 2010
marisacat - 13 October 2010

Yeah, I simply could not fly any more. I read that, waiting for the comments to load.

It is totally disgusting.

I like this comment:

I went through this in San Diego a couple of weeks ago.

They were all excited, judging by the several “OPT OUT!” yells that went back and forth while they figured out what they were supposed to do. It was clear that this was recent training they were trying to execute.

One TSA guy at the front asked me why I opted out. My reply was basically “Are you kidding? One of your own TSA people is about to go to jail for kicking the shit out of a co-worker who mercilessly teased him about penis size after everybody got scanned during a training exercise. Why would I want some juvenile TSA bozo looking at my junk?”

He didn’t really have a response.

17. marisacat - 14 October 2010

New

LINK

……………… :roll:

18. catnip - 14 October 2010

POLITICO Breaking News
————————————————-

The Obama administration has asked for an emergency stay of a judge’s order banning worldwide enforcement of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” law banning gays in the military. The Justice Department vows to appeal the ruling, and argues that President Barack Obama favors an ‘orderly’ legislative repeal of the 1993 law.
‘orderly’ = damn those activist judges!

Heckuva job, Obama.

catnip - 14 October 2010
marisacat - 14 October 2010

hi dear… I will move these two comments forward…
;)


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