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And continuing… 29 January 2011

Posted by marisacat in 2012 Re Election, DC Politics, Egypt, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Israel/AIPAC, Pan Arab Revolt - 2011, Viva La Revolucion!.
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Demonstrators confront riot police in Cairo on Friday. There were reports of at least one death during Friday’s clashes.
[AFP]

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Angry Arab:

The only Israeli flag in the Arab world is now in Amman

Comrade Electronic Ali tweeted this: “Departure of Israel embassy staff from Cairo leaves Amman as only Arab capital of normalization. How shameful for Jordan!”

Posted by As’ad at 9:10 AM

This sent a delicious chill up MY leg. But then I hate Indyk. Well, you know, intensely dislike.

Martin Indyk freaking out

“Mr. Indyk said, “If we don’t back Mubarak and the regime falls, and the Muslim Brotherhood takes control of Egypt and breaks the peace treaty with Israel, then it could have dramatic negative ramifications for American interests in the Middle East.””

Posted by As’ad at 9:04 AM

Whambulance for Marty!

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1. marisacat - 29 January 2011: thanks to Tiny Revolution, Hilarious from March 2009:

We look forward to President Mubarak coming as soon as his schedule would permit. I had a wonderful time with him this morning. I really consider President and Mrs. Mubarak to be friends of my family. So I hope to see him often here in Egypt and in the United States.

And, thanks to Angry Arab (he links to the YOuTube):

Joe (six pack) Biden and his wife about Husni Mubarak and his wife

“Joe: “Hey Folks have just met with President Mubarak … and Jill has just met Mrs. Mubarak. [..] We are working very closely, trying to deal with the Crisis in Gaza as well as Israeli Palestinian peace. They have been one of the few countries that have been forward leaning in Iraq …and they are also engaged in Afghanistan. But Jill, you were out with Mrs., Mubarak?

Jill:”yeah and we found that really we have so much in common. She is engaged with women’s issues and children’s issues… and she has established a peace park… I went to see [it], what she is doing and how important it is for children especially to feel a sense of peace in the world!”

Joe adds: “I have known President and Mrs. Mubarak now since a long, long time, since back in the late 70ies, even before he became President. We met on scores of occasions and it’s good to see him and in good health!”" (thanks Don)

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2. marisacat - 29 January 2011: Snicker snax:

Obama on Mubarak in 2009

“Justin Webb: Do you regard President Mubarak as an authoritarian ruler?

President Obama: No, I tend not to use labels for folks. I haven’t met him. I’ve spoken to him on the phone. He has been a stalwart ally in many respects, to the United States. He has sustained peace with Israel, which is a very difficult thing to do in that region. But he has never resorted to, you know, unnecessary demagoging of the issue, and has tried to maintain that relationship. So I think he has been a force for stability. And good in the region. Obviously, there have been criticisms of the manner in which politics operates in Egypt. And, as I said before, the United States’ job is not to lecture, but to encourage, to lift up what we consider to be the values that ultimately will work – not just for our country, but for the aspirations of a lot of people.” (thanks Thabet)

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3. marisacat - 29 January 2011: THE SHOWS

–NBC’s “Meet the Press“: Secretary Clinton; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell; roundtable with NBC’s Tom Brokaw, historian Doris Kearns Goodwin, Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan and the WashPost’s Bob Woodward

–ABC’s “The Week“: Secretary Clinton; former Speaker Newt Gingrich; Reagan children Ron Reagan, Michael Reagan and Patti Davis; roundtable with ABC’s George Will, ABC’s Cokie Roberts, ABC’s Sam Donaldson and former Reagan Budget Director David Stockman

–CBS’s “Face the Nation“: Secretary Clinton, White House Chief of Staff William Daley

–”Fox News Sunday“: Secretary Clinton, Speaker John Boehner; roundtable with Fox News’ Brit Hume, FORTUNE’s Nina Easton, The Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol and the New York Post’s Kirsten Powers; “Power Player of the Week” segment: National Institutes of Health – The Children’s Inn CEO Kathy Russell

–CNN’s “State of the Union“: Secretary Clinton, former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Negroponte and former U.S. Ambassador to Egypt Edward Walker; Sen. John McCain; Sen. Chuck Schumer; Co-Chair of the White House Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform and former Sen. Alan Simpson

–C-SPAN: “The Communicators” (Sat., 6:30 p.m. ET): Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Ambassador Philip Verveer and FTC Chief Technologist Edward Felten … “Newsmakers” (Sun. 10 a.m. ET / 6 p.m. ET): Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.), questioned by the Washington Post’s Neil Irwin and CQ’s Steven Sloan … “Q&A” (Sun. 8 p.m. ET / 11 p.m. ET): former President George W. Bush (taped Monday) … “Road to the White House” (Sun. 6:30 p.m. ET / 9:30 p.m. ET): Tim Pawlenty in Bedford, N.H.

–Univision’s “Al Punto“: El Salvador President Mauricio Funes; candidate for Mayor of Chicago Miguel del Valle; Director of Human Rights Watch’s Americas Division Jose Miguel Vivanco; actress and director Adriana Barraza; roundtable with Hispanic News Network’s Alan Rivera, Notimex’s Ruben Barrera and political cartoonist Lalo Alcaraz.

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4. marisacat - 29 January 2011: From MJS over at SMBIVA:

[T]here’s a kind of wonderful inspiration in a moment like this; it transmutes our base human metal into something much finer. Touched by such events, we can take on a kind of heroic stature for a splendid interval; we can speak clearly, directly, eloquently, insightfully; the hidden glories and powers of our strange muddled nature shine through the quotidian tarnish. It’s as if this were the thing we were meant to do; the thing in which our deepest dignity and honor as men and women consists — to break the yoke of our burden, and the rod of our oppressor, as on the day of Midian.

And this, on our mediocre “Leader”:

To descend, for a moment, from the sublime to the proverbial terminus therefrom:

Emperor Obie the First (and Last, let’s hope) has, unsurprisingly, been spared the aforementioned exaltation. His comments on the “situation” tonight were the usual gruel of overcooked platitudes, delivered in the usual barking scolding schoolmasterish voice. He has become a stupider, coarser, more inept man in the last two years — though no more dishonest, of course — than he was before his election; he as much as said that he called Mubarak up and gave him his instructions. The graceful basketball dude’s quick footwork — fake left, go right, as they say — has given way to a plodding, punch-drunk palooka’s lethargic, robotic roundhouse swings.

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5. catnip - 29 January 2011: Jeebus H Winter. It was +13C here on Thursday. Now it’s -17C in the middle of yet another snowstorm. A good day for peanut butter cookies and hot chocolate.

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marisacat - 29 January 2011: I think SF hit the high sixties yesterday… maybe 70 even. A tad warm for January… but……………………

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6. ts - 29 January 2011: It dropped from 70 mid-day to the 40s an hour after dark. Horrible time to come down with the flu, but here goes.

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catnip - 29 January 2011: Chicken soup!

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marisacat - 29 January 2011: bed rest… it really works miracles.

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7. mattes - 29 January 2011: Hold the presses….Huckabee headed to Israel.

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marisacat - 29 January 2011: If there was a god he would spare us this nightmare.

ugh.

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mattes - 29 January 2011: Frankly…they can have him. Give him an honorable citizenship.

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catnip - 29 January 2011: Is it the end times already again?

Great. Later fundies!

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8. Madman in the Marketplace - 29 January 2011: CNN is pushing the looting/escaped prisoner thing really hard …

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Madman in the Marketplace - 29 January 2011: About those looters

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catnip - 29 January 2011: I was watching CNN earlier… “It’s 3 am in Cairo now.”

Flipped the channel. Went back a couple of hours later. “It’s 3 am in Cairo now.”

Endless loop of a Blitzerthon. AHHHHH!!

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mattes - 30 January 2011: Well, we knew that was coming. Did I read right…Mubarak heading to Telaviv? LOL.

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marisacat - 30 January 2011: Apparently that is one thing being chanted on the streets… or that he should join Ali in Jeddah.

Either!

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9. catnip - 29 January 2011: Fisk:

In the pantomime world of Mubarak himself – and of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in Washington – the man who still claims to be president of Egypt swore in the most preposterous choice of vice-president in an attempt to soften the fury of the protesters – Omar Suleiman, Egypt’s chief negotiator with Israel and his senior intelligence officer, a 75-year-old with years of visits to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and four heart attacks to his credit. How this elderly apparatchik might be expected to deal with the anger and joy of liberation of 80 million Egyptians is beyond imagination. When I told the demonstrators on the tank around me the news of Suleiman’s appointment, they burst into laughter.

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marisacat - 30 January 2011: …and four heart attacks to his credit.

the Egyptian Cheney!

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mattes - 30 January 2011: Reply
10. marisacat - 30 January 2011: Egypt has shut the al Jazeera bureau.

Egypt shuts down Al Jazeera bureau

http://www.Aljazeera.net – ‎55 minutes ago‎

Network’s licences cancelled and accreditation of staff in Cairo withdrawn by order of information minister. The Egyptian authorities are revoking the Al Jazeera Network’s licence to broadcast from the country, and will be shutting down its bureau …

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11. marisacat - 30 January 2011: Hail coming down in Marin county…. we have rain here in San Francisco, been going gently all night. Nice for a change after days of too bright sun…

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12. BooHooHooMan - 30 January 2011: Early Sun morning, here, mid day Cairo,
Al Jazeera’s {English Feed} reported live fire orders now given to the Army. So not good.

Quickly Followed now by live audio account of one of the 34 Muslim Brotherhood prisoners arrested Friday: they were transported to a prison in the North, near Alexandria, Sadat City, crowds stormed the prison last night amidst gunfire and teargas setting them free as security forces fled and the provincial Army stood down.

NOW AJ – They have a camera feed with audio fixed on the square – is reporting they have wave after wave of fighter jets BUZZING the swelling crowds in Tahrir Square. Dangerous development to say the least.

Which leads me to wonder, aside from the CW mentioned as intimidation factor (as insane as any possible use of it on people in Cairo) : I wonder if they have infantry or tank battalions bolting the regime?

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marisacat - 30 January 2011: …is reporting they have wave after wave of fighter jets BUZZING the swelling crowds in Tahrir Square. Dangerous development to say the least.

Some reports seem to indicate factions (and I would not give it more than that, at this point) of the army making an effort, less aggressive contact with thepeople, maybe negotiating for Mubarak to leave…… but I am guessing NOT the Egyptian AF.

I did, along the way, read a tidbit I had missed. Apparenlty Musharraf’s nickname inside Pakistan was BUSHARRAF.

LOL. Like people don’t know what it is we do.

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BooHooHooMan - 30 January 2011: They certainly are trying all sorts of soft shoe propaganda, Can’t we all just get along, etc…
I agree, given his Air Force roots, doubtful it would come from them. I think if there is a split it will come from the Army. If so, hopefully his flyboy buddies will get him aloft quick. Which shouldn’t be too hard, given the airports were practically constructed in the Palace side yard.

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catnip - 30 January 2011: BBC: Tension rises as jets buzz Cairo square

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mattes - 30 January 2011: Ya…but it it only takes one fighter to defect and hit Mubarak instead. We be so lucky.

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13. BooHooHooMan - 30 January 2011: Hillary says we want free and fair elections!
Of course I’m sure behind the scenes they are trying to keep Mubaraks ass propped up, well,
at least long enough till they can CLONE him.

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BooHooHooMan - 30 January 2011: In other words, LOL,
I imagine as soon as Hillary is done with the brunch circuit this morning, she’ll be speed dating every General in the Egyptian Army this afternoon.

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marisacat - 30 January 2011: Yuu know in addition to Hillary Everywhere, This Week (think it is them) will ahve the 3 surviving Reagan chillun. All at once it seems…Should be hilarious.

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BooHooHooMan - 30 January 2011: Hillary Everywhere…
E x c e p t C A I R O!

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marisacat - 30 January 2011: Maybe we will send La Kerry!

Things can only get wordier and murkier.

I need more tea.

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marisacat - 30 January 2011: Sheis just so predictable:

“We want to see an orderly transition so that no-one fills a void, that there not be a void, that there be a well thought out plan that will bring about a democratic participatory government,” she told the Fox TV network. “We also don’t want to see some takeover that would lead not to democracy but to oppression and the end of the aspirations of the Egyptian people.”

more by Hillary Rodham Clinton – 25 minutes ago – BBC News (2 occurrences)

She sounds confused. Lost in gobblygook obfuscation. Think she came out strongly against “voids”

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catnip - 30 January 2011: Cutting off cell phones, the internet and AlJazeera – not to mention decades of human rights abuses just doesn’t equal “oppression”, I guess.

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BooHooHooMan - 30 January 2011: LOL. – I’m still laughing over your comment the other day that they all look like “dolts in aspic”.
< – Add Jello!

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14. BooHooHooMan - 30 January 2011: Gotta love it.
How Obbie and Hillary are trying to lawyer this thing.

We support , have consistently supported the call for free and fair elections.

I think its great myself, how ALL the Buttinskis are going to get knocked down a few pegs.

LOL. – >

Aluf Benn / Obama will go down in history as the president who lost Egypt

So as for Obbie and Hillary,
Somebody tuck em BOTH in, together, jammies on,
so they can split the call at 3am.
Prolly from Gates, of course.
But with Bibi-in-balaclava outside their window.

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marisacat - 30 January 2011: I noticed a quiet slip-in, along about Thursday, think it was. Gates “may” be staying.

Just shocking news. Next come stories of gambling.

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catnip - 30 January 2011: We support , have consistently supported the call for free and fair elections.

They only started spouting that after a few EU countries used the phrase before them yesterday.

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BooHooHooMan - 30 January 2011: Well, I fear the conclusions they’ll draw..
in seeing this as the seminal event it is.

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15. marisacat - 30 January 2011: Simultaneous translation: We have No Fuckign Answers, We have NO idea what is going on:

Clinton, Obama team say there are ‘no easy answers’ in Egypt

USA Today – David Jackson – ‎8 minutes ago‎

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catnip - 30 January 2011: Exactly.

But didn’t Obamalama look dreamy and smart in his dark sweater as he sat around with his security advisers yesterday?

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marisacat - 30 January 2011: Well you know what Sean Penn cried out at last year’s Academy Awards (bastion of free elections!)

He saluted America for “having the courage to elect an elegant man”.

hmm kinda like the vaunted intelligence, I just don’t see it.

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16. catnip - 30 January 2011: CNN’s Nick Robertson reports growing anger in Egypt against Obama for sitting on the fence or being seen as siding with Mubarak. He may have gotten away with that non-confrontational crap domestically but now the rest of the world is getting a taste of it and it’s not liking what it sees.

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17. catnip - 30 January 2011: BBC:

The US government, which previously had advised US citizens against non-essential travel to Egypt, is now advising Americans in Egypt to consider leaving the country as soon as possible.

What does that tell you?

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marisacat - 30 January 2011: US, Iraq, Turkey and China are advising: Leave NOW! We are Clueless! Head to the crowded no planes departing airport!

Or are there planes to get on?

I imagine an evacuation wtih planes sent in may be next.

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marisacat - 30 January 2011: we’re sending in planes tomorrow…

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mattes - 30 January 2011: Might mean Mubarak will try to bomb the hell out of the country to save the country. Maybe IDF will loan them their jets.

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18. marisacat - 30 January 2011: hmm Democracy NOW! has someone on the ground in Cairo… will stream live as of tomorrow (Monday) am 8 ET

http://www.democracynow.org

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19. marisacat - 30 January 2011: From last night on Angry Arab. Israel is in big trouble. Plain as day.

Why Zionists can’t sleep

“They also called for the Jordanian government to stop peace talks with Israel and to close the Israeli embassy in Amman. “No…no for a Zionist [Israeli] embassy on Arab land,” they shouted.” (thanks David)

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No to Mubarak, no to Sulayman

Aljazeera Arabic is reporting that people in Tahrir Square are chanting: “No to Mubarak, no to Sulyman. Both are agents of the Americans” (it rhymes in Arabic).

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BBC from two weeks ago

“No sign Egypt will take the Tunisian road”

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Protests plans for the Arab world

“hashtag dates already being planned for Arab world – Sudan #Jan30 Yemen #Feb3 Syria#Feb5 Algeria #Feb12 Bahrain #Feb.14″ (thanks Farah)

Posted by As’ad at 8:37 PM

He’s also reporting a communcation he got from Ramallah, the PA is preventing people from a solidarity demonstration, planned for today 4 PM in support of Tunisia and Eqypt

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20. catnip - 30 January 2011: Oh thank Dog Christiane Amanpour is in Egypt. I should she must have been going through Uprising Zone withdrawal now that she has a desk job.

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catnip - 30 January 2011: Hillary: “There is no discussion at this time about cutting off any aid.”

Really? Aren’t you contradicting Obamalama?

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Madman in the Marketplace - 30 January 2011: she sounded so lost and clueless.

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marisacat - 30 January 2011: Really. Able to don the khakis again…

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catnip - 30 January 2011: Heh™. I bought a second-hand khaki shirt a couple of years ago which I call my “war correspondent’s shirt”.

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21. marisacat - 30 January 2011: ugh, NBC Meat has Martin Indyk… next up, Tom Friedman.

Yikes.

Makes TW shine.

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22. BooHooHooMan - 30 January 2011: LOL. The Egyptisn Ambassador to DC keeps glancing away from Candy Crowley like he left the driver with the motor running out front or something. Seriously.
AND (not so seriously now) OH FER.FUCKS.SAKE.
He’s speaking carefully while quickly packing shorts in a small bag now.
Come on, Man! LOL.

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marisacat - 30 January 2011: He avoided any direct comment on Mubarak, on TW with Tapper.

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catnip - 30 January 2011: Negroponte: “The street is not democracy. The street is not the government.”

That says it all.

Gotta give him points for honestly standing up for the aristocracy.

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23. mattes - 30 January 2011: ‘Cold peace’ between Israel and Egypt could grow colder
The only significant project between Israel and Egypt is the gas export agreement, and Israel’s national utility, the Israel Electric Corporation, is dependent on that gas.

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24. marisacat - 30 January 2011: New

LINK

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