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Still there… 29 July 2011

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London, UK: Geese preen themselves in St James Park [Andy Rain/EPA]

Richard Seymour, lenin of Lenin’s Tomb, has a piece up in the Comment is Free section of the Guardian… how Qaddafi is stronger.  Well, he is certainly still there.

This is the close of the post:

[T]he final justification for this debacle will be that speedy intervention, however half-hearted, prevented a massacre. Now, there may once have been reason to believe this. But there no longer is.

Gaddafi has enough blood on his hands, and deserved to fall to the insurgents, but there’s no reason to submit to war propaganda. In reality, as Amnesty put it, “there is no proof of mass killing of civilians on the scale of Syria or Yemen”. Which is an interesting way of putting it. It’s no secret that the coalition that was supposedly preventing a genocidal bloodbath in Libya was actually behind much of the bloodshed in Yemen. This completely demolishes the last leg of the moral case for war [not that there ever was a legitimate moral basis for aerial bombing and intervention in Libya... - Mcat]. The “humanitarian interventions” of the 1990s left the US in a stronger position, both geopolitically and ideologically. I’m not convinced that this will be the result of the bombing of Libya.

In fact, if there was any idea that the US could offer an alternative model of development for the populations of the Middle East, it now lies in ruins. It is more than unfortunate that Libya had to be reduced to ruins for this to become apparent.

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1. Madman in the Marketplace - 29 July 2011

Reid alters debt plan to attract GOP support

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has revised his plan to raise the debt limit in a last-ditch bid to attract Republican support.

The biggest change is that Reid would give the president almost unilateral power to raise the debt limit, borrowing an idea introduced by Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

Reid would have President Obama request a $2.4 trillion debt-limit increase in two installments of $1.2 trillion each. The requests would be subject to congressional resolutions of disapproval, but these would do little to restrict the president.

Dropping the Everlasts once again …

2. marisacat - 29 July 2011

Madman posted this at the end f the last thread:

Fullerton Police Brutally Beat Homeless Man to Death

horrible, and sadly par for the course in this fucking brutal country

BooHooHooMan - 29 July 2011

Despicable.
Cops ..systemically in the US? As an institution?. have always been pigs.
But wrt police brutality, the degree to which they’ve been elevated, emboldened, ..I can’t help but thinking of what Mcat once said.
“So sorry the Clintons ever showed up.”

Over and out.

Remember their big 100,00 Cops on the Street?.
And their zeal in expansive capital sentencing legislation for “line-of-duty” deaths involving the cops? Here in Jersey a cop speading to some chickenshit in convenience store flipped his car and was killed and they went after the small timer with it. (tho Corzine, the one thing he did do – and of course did only when trying to hang for Gubernatorial re-election – repealed the death penalty here.)

Nothing new, the politicization, the coin, the spoils. But I’d part company with iconoclasts given a “Where YOU been?” take on it, or any dismissal whether metrics or cause matters. The Clintons did more to militarize the Police in the U.S. than any Post Viet Nam “Law and Order” Republican could ever have imagined pulling off up to that point. , Enriching and emboldening the cops via “legitimate” and criminal means alike. By funding the “legit” political payoffs in Police contracts that would make the old urban Irish machines blush in their graves, (and the remnant ones flush in their caves) ,And secondly, most fortuitously and certainly most viscously – > via the kind beau-coup, under-the-matress cash opportunities that their zealous expansion of the War on Drugs made possible.

By the time Bush embodied Big Brother. the Democratic base was pushed over with a feather

And that’s just on the cop’s side of their evil.

The victim in this case…is EXACTLY the kind of victim that piled up in E.R.’s after the Clinton’s “Third Way” assault “Welfare *As We Know It*”.

marisacat - 29 July 2011

yes I watched the US Mexico border militarise under Clinton, I went down twice a year to buy my mother’s scripts over the border – for 5 years in the 90s… at least the Cali sections and from what I hear the same in AZ…

marisacat - 29 July 2011

It’s a horrible story… I was glad to read in the thread that a storm is brewing in Fullerton over it, as I had heard nothing o this one. One reason, is the Fullerton loc. We have had several here, in SF and East Bay to cover.

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 July 2011

It’s increasingly clear that far too many cops don’t WANT to de-escalate situations, that they’re eager for a chance to go thug on somebody.

Cities spend more effort going after people who take video and pictures of these incidents than they ever do punishing the cops.

marisacat - 30 July 2011

And all the coppers are mad as hell that anyone be caught short in the city bank account in order to pay what is some Veyr High Pay.

We have a Public Defender here in SF who has put forth plans for some very needed trimming of the system of paying cops and firemen…I have listened to him probably about 10+ hours on his plan. He is ALSO on a concerted crusade (for real, he is not a showboater) against crooked cops… with a windfall of video tapes from security cameras from several residential hotel SRO sorts of places in the Tenderloin, a poor area of SF. Cops doing no knock warrantless entry, cops stealing from poor people, etc.

And he had no trouble identifyiing by name one cop in particalr on the tapes. And saying that plainclothes undercover vice cop makes


228,000 a year. Two Hundred and Twenty Eight Thousand, per year.

Not a precinct captain, a plainclothes undercover vice cop. And there are cops and captains making a lot more than that…
Stuff is seriously out of hand.

3. marisacat - 29 July 2011

BHHM posted this at the end of the thread (by Alec Baldwin, I will add the link in a reply):

****

His tripe is a mix of the extraordinarily stupid and clueless detached scold..

In the short 13-year period since Clinton’s great troubles, little of that partisan disgrace has figured much in the lives of its principal players. Hillary Clinton went on to soar in her own career as a senator, a vigorous combatant for her party’s presidential nomination and secretary of state. Her husband is still a political figure of enormous influence in the world, still admired nearly everywhere he goes and still married to his wife. Monica Lewinsky is a footnote, as most sex scandal femme fatales usually become (Christine Keeler, Donna Rice). The Clinton impeachment, when moral compasses like Henry Hyde, Newt Gingrich and Bill Bennett wanted us to relocate our outrage, was the last great rumble in the Beltway schoolyard, other than the bloodshed of an actual election, until now. Now, partisan hatred is viewed a sidearm everyone should have the right, if not the need, to carry. And on the Hill, everyone seems to be packing.

However, did Americans really believe that this day would never come? Not the day of the Next Rumble. I mean the day America went broke.

Americans are, by any reasonable measure, extraordinarily giving people. We have given trillions upon trillions of dollars of our nation’s wealth to the world’s poorer people. :shock: And not always with strategic military or economic goals attached. Here at home, we provide government assistance to flood victims. Americans beset by fire damage, tornados and hurricanes. You can smoke all of your life and walk into a government-funded hospital and ask your fellow Americans to save your life. You can make the poorest nutritional choices known to mankind and get diabetes medication paid for by the government. You can go hiking in some crazy-ass, remote part of some national park and certain, caring fellow Americans will attempt to find you. People pay a lot of money in taxes here in America, but still find ways to give billions privately every year to help fight disease, care for the elderly, teach painting and dance, conserve precious open spaces, give scholarships on behalf of their alma mater, or send Girl Scout cookies to the troops.

Americans are caring. And what those who are opposed to raising the debt ceiling are essentially attempting to do is insist that we stop caring. That we stop doing one of the primary things that make this country what it is. That makes us who we are.

This bill was coming and you knew it. And if you didn’t see it coming, then you should be very worried. Because you have a real problem. The war, brave men and women in the armed services aside, has been a disgraceful waste of this country’s time, spirit, blood and money. They used to call it “Guns and Butter.” Today, it’s drones and frappuccinos. And guess what? Both of those choices on opposite ends of that axis cost a hell of a lot more money than they used to.

Asshole.

Anyways, pretty clear the word has gone out for all entertainment hands to get on. (urgently, Moreso than the obligatory, fake, involved – with – a – “cause” /PR/ polticical hobbyist crap) Any act will do, just something to prevent mass audience exodus. This guy Ob is headed into Bush territory in the polls.

marisacat - 29 July 2011

The link:

Alec Baldwin
Actor

GET UPDATES FROM Alec Baldwin :shock:

It’s Time To Suck It Up And Pay Our Bill

Working here in Rome the last two weeks…

:lol: SO Not feelin it, man.
And like Baldwin doesn’t have A/C at home.

Ganjafied Gabacho - 30 July 2011

I find it ironic that in the most often portrayed of Alec’s fictional personae, on tv and especially in commercials, he is an insider, sybaritic elite. You know, the ultimate white guy CEO.

I guess his fiction is truer than his exposition….

4. BooHooHooMan - 30 July 2011

“Where oh where are our heroes?”
…the political press lackeys are all asking in a row.
Fuck ~Where.
Who, I say, – location quite aside if you ask me -, would be a super-awesome set of serial killers specializing in hero -seeking political press lackeys.
Sort of “Kill Bill” meets, well, pulp fiction.
Which the journo’s-facing-imminent-demise could then be obliged to cover. Like in Natural Born Killers
And everybody could be happy:
Ya’d have yer Heroes and imminent demise and Serial Killing all meda-ready.
:roll: Anyways.
Harwood on Obama.
Obama’s Crucible Moment at Intersection of Politics and the Economy
Yes, lead off there with the fake,bold headline of critique.
Then conjure up political premises while piling on the bullshit excuses. And don’t forget to invoke the mythical “recovery”.

Moreover, Mr. Obama has precious few remedies left to administer. Not only is there negligible political appetite for new stimulus spending, but administration officials fear that the near-term deficit-reduction measures Republicans have insisted on could further undermine the frail recovery. :roll:

Then provide whoever the latest Change-a-comin-to- DC artist with the soft historical perspective cushion. So old, this racket.

In one way or another, every president faces crucible moments at the intersection between politics and the economy.

For President George W. Bush it came in the fall of 2008 when he decided to ask Congress to support an unpopular $700 billion bailout of Wall Street as the only alternative to financial collapse. Fortunately for Mr. Bush, he had no need to court voters since his second term was nearly over, but members of his party in Congress later paid the price for their reluctant support when they were held to account by conservatives.

For President Bill Clinton, it came in the winter of 1995 when he faced off with a Republican Congress over a government shutdown. The electorate decided that Congress had overreached, and Mr. Clinton cruised to re-election.

So hey, any ambitious journo-dispatchers out there- things can get messy but ya usually can get away with it, okay?
Step up , already! .

I see Harwood,with that last line, (like the other stenographers) , is dutifully hitting the Clinton -> Newt – > GOP Shutdown – > Bill Re-Election meme. That THAT was made possible light years ago on the Devolutionary curve doesn’t concern them at all. Well before Clintonian passage of NAFTA, banking deregulation, and “Ending Welfare *As We Know It”* did its inevitable destruction. I’m just hoping that any prospective serial journo-killer out there has a nice touch. Like leaving Harwood with mid-90′s front pages of the NYT stuffed in his mouth
::

And Cilliza on Boehner. :roll:
Who had the worst week in Washington?
House Speaker John Boehner.

But, robbed of the usual persuasion tactics on a tough vote — a bridge here, a highway there — thanks to the House’s self-imposed earmark ban, there was little he and his leadership team could do as it became clear that the hard “nos” weren’t softening.

By necessity, Boehner postponed the vote until Friday and in so doing provided fodder for the “tea party runs the Republican Party” story line that he had desperately hoped to avoid.

‘tSO-HARD, ya know?
Someone get the plastic sheeting and bring a 55 gallon drum for Cilliza, too.

BooHooHooMan - 30 July 2011

:lol: I hadn’t noticed, but Cillizza in WaPo actually has “Worst Week In Washington” as a FEATURE .
LOL, muscling in on our territory, folks!

Shouldn’t be long before the networks brand up a segment -complete with splash scene graphics : SO FUCKIN SCREWED.

marisacat - 30 July 2011

When they institute a Congealing Fuckball award, I will worry…
;)

BooHooHooMan - 30 July 2011

:lol:

marisacat - 30 July 2011

I want to say this with all cautionary braying noises possible… I think there is a small, tiny tiny chance that both sides have overspent the bank account.

I hear a lot of what seems t be a terminal fatigue in callers to the local Dem machine call in … I did not hear FOundling Friday am, I slept thru his remarks (and little news seems interested in excerpting, which tells you something), but apparently it was a poor showing.

One caller said he appeared to lose his place in the text. And more than a few really thought he was only bothering to address We the Hapless as he was going to say that with great regret he would invoke the 14th Amendment.

And when he did not, wondered why he bothered to interrupt anyone’s life.

We shall see.

5. marisacat - 30 July 2011

THE SHOWS:

–NBC’s “Meet the Press“: White House senior adviser David Plouffe; Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) and Sen. John Thune (R-SD); roundtable with former Gov. Jennifer Granholm (D-MI), Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID), CNBC’s Jim Cramer and NBC’s Tom Brokaw

–ABC’s “This Week“: White House senior adviser David Plouffe; Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC); PIMCO CEO Dr. Mohamed El-Erian; roundtable with ABC’s George Will, ABC News’ Amy Walter, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman and Americans for Tax Reform’s Grover Norquist; New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly

–CBS’s “Face the Nation“: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY); Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY)

–”Fox News Sunday“: National Economic Council Director Gene Sperling; House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-CA); Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-IL) and Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-AZ); roundtable with the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol, Washington Post’s Charles Lane, Weekly Standard’s Steve Hayes and Fox News’ Juan Williams (substitute host: Bret Baier)

–CNN’s “State of the Union“: Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY); Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY); National Economic Council Director Gene Sperling; Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT); Moody’s Analytics chief economist Mark Zandi (substitute host: Gloria Borger)

6. diane - 30 July 2011

Sorry hon, I accidently posted a half comment above, the full comment:

The San Francisco Chronky loves it some Feinstein/(shy[ster]Blum):

She [Dianne Feinstein – diane] pointed to the report of the bipartisan deficit commission earlier this month as pointing the way out and said its recommendations should be given a vote in the Senate, even though she doesn’t agree with everything in it.

“It’s a course of action which can bring down this debt and bring down this deficit,” Feinstein said. “I’m proud of those members who voted (for) the report….

And the Multinational Corporations, with Corporate Headquarters in Cali, International Headquarters in Shanghai, etc. …, no doubt , …. love them some Boxer too …. it would be no small wonder:

S.RES.25
Latest Title: A resolution expressing the sense of the Senate that comprehensive tax reform legislation should include incentives for companies [I love the use of the word “companies,” there, ….. huh? like they are mom and pop suffering businesses, where the reality is: US domiciled, Global Oligarchies and Monopolies – diane] to repatriate foreign earnings for the purpose of creating new jobs.

Sponsor: Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA] (introduced 1/25/2011) …..

i.e. further reducing Google et al’s, already obscene, 2% and lower, effective US tax rates, …..while not really being pressured to hire anyone, …let alone not lay off ….in the thousands, Cisco, a prime example. …..And it’s well known in hiring circles that corporations are flat out saying they won’t even consider hiring anyone unemployed, for the livable wage jobs.

(of course one has to wade through all types of pleasant sounding Babs sponsorship to extract such a jewel, …as…duplicitous Good Cop, ….is quite the understatement. …..Oh, and sorry for all that boldfacing …then again, ……the tendency is to want to scream about the sleazy, duplicitous scum ….running things …….why the fuck should anyone be polite about the fuckers at this point?)

diane - 30 July 2011

shit, meant to highlight the following better also:

She [Dianne Feinstein – diane] pointed to the report of the bipartisan deficit commission earlier this month as pointing the way out and said its recommendations should be given a vote in the Senate, even though she doesn’t agree with everything in it.

“It’s a course of action which can bring down this debt and bring down this deficit,” Feinstein said. “I’m proud of those members who voted (for) the report….

diane - 30 July 2011

jeesh, ….almost redfaced …sorry about the blockquote fuck up too. …The second set of html code blockquotes should have ended after

<Sponsor: Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA] (introduced 1/25/2011) …..

diane - 30 July 2011

(After I discovered it was timed out ….I deliberately left Boxer’s Senate Resolution 25 link fucked up, …because I think it’s pretty telling about all that nanosecond transparency. …..If anyone wants to verify, they can access thomas.loc.gov (that link, … won’t (generally) time out, ….twanspawency!) ……. and follow the instructions.

gotta run, hugs out to anyone rightfully feeling fucking depressed and fucking ENRAGED at the slaughters going on. )

7. marisacat - 30 July 2011

Haahahahahah.. fables and mysteries of the fucked “compromiser” Obrama.

Personally I think he and his endlessly referenced and boring family should be driven to land’s end. And then over.

[T]HE FABLE OF OBAMA AND THE PIG

We are stumbling through dense jungle at dusk. We’re down to skin and bones–too weak, even, for cannibalism. We stagger into a clearing where a miraculous vision greets us: a tribal elder…leading a succulent pig by a rope! Obama says to the tribal elder: please, if your tribe is planning to eat that pig, may we share a bit of it? The elder says: only if you slaughter it yourself. And know this: to slaughter a pig is a nightmarish job, a bloody job, a job that may haunt you forever. Obama says: though I love pigs–they’re so pink and innocent!–our people are starving. I will do it. As Obama approaches the pig, with a small, dull knife in hand, suddenly the tribal elder says: I changed my mind. Even if you slaughter this pig, I’m just going to throw the meat away. No one will get to eat it–not my people, not yours–only the dogs and the bugs. Obama says: then we will compromise. I will slaughter the pig, and you will throw the meat away.

And tonight–as we keel over, one by one, losing consciousness–we murmur words of praise for his wisdom. We die proud, with the word Compromise on our cracked and blistered lips.

diane - 30 July 2011

totally fitting “fable.”

(and thanks for those corrections honey, love you)

8. marisacat - 30 July 2011

Up thread, the No 2 comment Madman posted a link to the Fullerton CA police beating a man to death… After he had been tased, 6 of them surrounded him and beat him to death. He was mentally troubled, possibly off his meds — but small and already tasered.

Anyway, by luck his father is a retired deputy sheriff in teh OC district. where it happened.. and at least he is going public… AS the FBI takes an interest he is beng offered 900,000 as full and complete settlement for any claims against the city…..

Kinda LOW. I think it indicates the cops, the city are afraid.

9. marisacat - 30 July 2011

Wellll.. they might as well grind this tired game to dust — :lol: and they seem to be doing just that.

Brrrrrrrrrrrreaaaaaaaking

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Senator Harry Reid Postpones Vote on Debt Bill to Sunday at Noon ET [10:12 p.m. ET]

For more on this and other breaking news go to ABCNews.com:

BooHooHooMan - 31 July 2011

W.H. ‘fine’ with no new revenues
By Glenn Thrush | 7/31/11 9:59 AM
Lotta little calls to be heard , like Thrush’s from the shrub brush, that the PTB are fine livin with the thin reeds whether parched white ones in the Senate or mold-y blacks one in the White House.

Obama is fine with “only spending cuts”, Sperling says.

* Sperling: No good contingency plans
* Sperling: Obama inherited bad economy

And I see they are have agreed on a 9/11 …10 Year Anniversary Extravaganzo Fest.In which Obby AND Shrub will ..what else – both be elevated on that pile. Newly Renovated!

Enh~ one of those days when it makes me wonder whether the PTB indeed, WILLl wedge this Obama back in…

Anyways, I dunno, Just Please Dear God, PLEASE LET Bill Clinton and Alec Baldwin near the microphone as Giuliani is about to speak. Maybe have Bloomberg directing the crowd’s view skyward to a wheelchaired Poppy Bush parachuting in just about the time the chute doesn’t open…We don’t ask for much, Lord.

Good Times.

BooHooHooMan - 31 July 2011

:shocking: (My typing, that is) :lol:

marisacat - 31 July 2011

Enh~ one of those days when it makes me wonder whether the PTB indeed, WILLl wedge this Obama back in…

Yeah I go back and forth.

One thing I do know, both sides will milk the runn for all it is worth. $$, what it is all about.

10. BooHooHooMan - 31 July 2011

:lol: . Ezra Klein

Can a giant platinum coin save our credit?

Jeezis.. :shock: Ezra,
– > now literally trotting out the Bright Shiny Object™.

Now available in Platinum! roll:

……

But failing that, Obama could always just solve the crisis with a pair of magical platinum coins. Sure, that sounds preposterous, but Yale’s Jack Balkin argues that this is actually a perfectly legal strategy. Here’s the logic: Under law, there’s a limit to how much paper money the United States can circulate at any one time, and there are rules that limit how many gold, silver and copper coins the Treasury can mint. But the Treasury is explicitly allowed to mint however many platinum coins it wants and can assign them whatever value it pleases.

So the Mint makes a pair of trillion-dollar platinum coins. The president orders the coins to be deposited at the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve moves this money into Treasury’s accounts. And just like that, Treasury suddenly has an extra $2 trillion to pay off its obligations in the near term without issuing new debt. If the Fed was worried about all that newly created money being pumped into circulation, it could always counteract the inflationary effects by selling off the $2 trillion in securities it owns from quantitative easing (thereby taking an equivalent amount of money back out of the economy). Problem solved. Right?

Well, sort of. The interesting thing about the platinum option, as it turns out, is that it actually seems to be on a firmer legal footing than the 14th Amendment approach. The law very clearly states… :roll:

They’re all So fond of gimmicks…

BooHooHooMan - 31 July 2011

:oops:

marisacat - 31 July 2011

Can you see this pretzel issuing new bling?

Gah, last thing he would do. (NTIM)

(Poor tiny Ezra)

BooHooHooMan - 31 July 2011

LOL. So true BUT!

Deal Framework Reached on Raising U.S. Debt Ceiling

We are at – the Deal Framework Reaching Level!

Yeh, This paint job should go well. 3 Stooges man-ladder much?
::
I don’t think the SS interuption will happen (this time) but it wouldn’t surprise me a bit that a Rep or two were gunned down over the next month if it did.

I don’t know if you saw it in the NYT this weekend, I think yesterday’s installment on the clusterfuck, but Mullen was somewhere in AfPakIraq doing what was supposed to be the ole Sunshine Up The Ass Town Hall-ish like event with Da Troops.and instead was swarmed with questions from the rank and file about their MONEY. Oh. we’re reaching new heights in scaffolding deals, all right… .

marisacat - 31 July 2011

I did see a clip of that… the chitchat took place as he did a two fisted handout of the Mullen coins to the hapless camo neck bleeding sheep under arms.

11. BooHooHooMan - 31 July 2011

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:lol: . Ezra Klein

Can a giant platinum coin save our credit?

Jeezis.. :shock: Ezra,
– > now literally trotting out the Bright Shiny Object™.

Now available in Platinum! roll:

::
……
But failing that, Obama could always just solve the crisis with a pair of magical platinum coins. Sure, that sounds preposterous, but Yale’s Jack Balkin argues that this is actually a perfectly legal strategy. Here’s the logic: Under law, there’s a limit to how much paper money the United States can circulate at any one time, and there are rules that limit how many gold, silver and copper coins the Treasury can mint. But the Treasury is explicitly allowed to mint however many platinum coins it wants and can assign them whatever value it pleases.

So the Mint makes a pair of trillion-dollar platinum coins. The president orders the coins to be deposited at the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve moves this money into Treasury’s accounts. And just like that, Treasury suddenly has an extra $2 trillion to pay off its obligations in the near term without issuing new debt. If the Fed was worried about all that newly created money being pumped into circulation, it could always counteract the inflationary effects by selling off the $2 trillion in securities it owns from quantitative easing (thereby taking an equivalent amount of money back out of the economy). Problem solved. Right?

Well, sort of. The interesting thing about the platinum option, as it turns out, is that it actually seems to be on a firmer legal footing than the 14th Amendment approach. The law very clearly states… :roll:

They’re all So fond of gimmicks…

ts - 31 July 2011

Ron Paul had the idea first, that the Fed would just write off the $2 trillion the government “owes” them (nearly half the debt is owed to SS trust fund or the Fed) and voila, no debt ceiling crisis. But he’s Ron Paul and a lunatic so you can’t give him credit for anything.

Instead of printing out platinum coins, why not print out $2 trillion in cash and give it to people, especially those out of work to, like, spend. Worked in Iraq.

BooHooHooMan - 31 July 2011

They should just give everyone 2 $Trillion.
SpreaditA R O U N D. :lol:

And as for Paul, LOL one of me ole Dem friends asked just last night. So you want Palin to get in? Or Bachmann?
Or,
blinking and finding it difficult to swallow, he was actually able to say the name, Paul?

Cheerfully, I admitted, SURE, All THREE, ANY, WHY NOT?
I SOO don’t give a shit who gets in anymore.

Madman in the Marketplace - 31 July 2011

I love that question. I always reply “sure”, since we’re getting it anyway, only slightly more slowly with different overseers holding the whip.

Fuck it … if we’re going down this road, let’s open the throttle, take off the brakes and go for it.

BooHooHooMan - 31 July 2011

:wink: Like Thelma and Louise.
Like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
Like Reagan and Bush.
And Clinton-Gore.
And Cheney and Bush.
Like Ob and Knob.

Bring on the next co-Stars!
Wee-Hee!

12. marisacat - 31 July 2011

hmm Just catching Sperling on Fox. Could nto be doing worse. I missed Pluff on ABC but doubt he did better.

What a stupid mess made by stupid people.

marisacat - 31 July 2011

THe R have McCarthy a freshman tea bagger from Cali – as counterpoint to Sperling. Unfuckingbelievable.

You have to hand it to the Democrats, it is diablolical how they fake out the sheep shit for brains, bleeding from the tears in the throat voters.

Obama, Tea Bagger In Chief. Basically.

marisacat - 31 July 2011

omigod… Kyl agrees with me! Bret Baier asked him about the Tea Baggers and he said they remind him of a Sen Barack O in 2008 who voted against raising the fakery. Durbin looked at the table.

You have to love what a mess it all is.

13. BooHooHooMan - 31 July 2011

And leave it to a fuckwhack Hasidic Jew to be givin the country the Heebie-jeebies out of Brooklyn with the fake Sharia Law scare,,,,

In fact, it is the product of an orchestrated drive that began five years ago in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, in the office of a little-known lawyer, David Yerushalmi, a 56-year-old Hasidic Jew with a history of controversial statements about race, immigration and Islam. Despite his lack of formal training in Islamic law, Mr. Yerushalmi has come to exercise a striking influence over American public discourse about Shariah.

In the NYT…even.

Madman in the Marketplace - 31 July 2011

I laughed when I read that.

BooHooHooMan - 31 July 2011

Oh it is to laugh.
Well played, Secretive Brooklyn Hasidic Jew !
Well Played, Dual Citizen!!

Especially the TV reports in rural areas where the media clips always feature some buck-toothed, cornpone eatin nitwits before the cameras all alarmed about it.

To laugh all around…

marisacat - 31 July 2011

i don’t think the sharia law thing is fake…. not if you keep an eye on whhat is happening in the uk… not if you look at hasidic and other orthodox law that has intense enclaves… and not if you catch the drift the fundamentalist fuckers ALL AGREE on suppressing women, suppressing gays, suppressing children….

and elevating some vicious patriarchy.

I DO worry about it.

Riffle thru the online CAIR stuff. I paid no attention to them for years. It is they who want the religious exception, the single only one religious exception of the Sikh turban (and recall just recnetly there have been two suicide bombers using their turbans) to be exempt from TSA removal… the Sikh are allowed under the exception to run their hands over their turbans and present the hands for explsives detection (why can’t we all do that to our entire selves?)


but CAIR wants that extneded to all Islamic fundamental wrap the wimmins up outfits.

AND there is a new graduate school of Sharia law over in Berkeley.

Do I WANT to worry about ANY of this crap. No I don’t. But we are running over with fundies of all stripes. And they all agree with each other on repression and suppression.

I trust religious fucknuts not at all. Any of them.

Madman in the Marketplace - 31 July 2011

Oh, I don’t think it’s fake either, I just find it funny that it’s a fundie wackjob from the Jewish version there of pushing it … hell, they have NY courts already helping them oppress women. Maybe they just don’t want more competition.

marisacat - 31 July 2011

Ultimately they agree and they all know it.

BooHooHooMan - 31 July 2011

I see the tagging it as Sharia as “taking over” in the U.S.
as fake. It’s a matter of which fundie loons will carry the day.
The repression proceeding apace regardless. Thus far the MIC capitalist orthodoxy are still in charge.

I completely agree with this:

But we are running over with fundies of all stripes. And they all agree with each other on repression and suppression.

I trust religious fucknuts not at all. Any of them.

marisacat - 31 July 2011

It does nto matter which religious headline takes over. They all agree.

So far I have a long list of non religious white women over 70 who are forced to undress due to metal implants. Same thing with elderly white men.

Good thing I cannot get on a plane, if anything similar happened to me, I would simply physically attack. I don’t see why I should be suspected of ANYTHING. At all.

I hear this commentary being rpeated, like grease from a fry pan, that we must be “vigilant” and continue to harrass elderly wheelbound travelers or people with metal implants and letters from their doctors as the possible bombers are so clever and cagey. (uh think about all the spectacular failures… )

Meanwhile the damned turban? See? it makes NO SENSE.

I think between religion, war, completely entrenched underclass and poverty America is finished. Luckily I won’t be around for it to b like paid flash mobs and broad sectarian bloody b attles in India. Which is what is coming, as I see it.

14. marisacat - 31 July 2011

New

LINK

…. :roll:


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