Looks … 17 November 2011
Posted by marisacat in 2012 Re Election, California / Pacific Coast, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Occupy Wall Street, San Francisco, WAR!.trackback

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GOPers say the president’s ‘lazy’ comment will get plenty of play on the campaign trail. | AP Photo
Looks like what he is… another con.
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From a participant at Oakland Occupy and Philadelphia Occupy, a former Oakland resident who teaches political theory at Drexel (bolding is mine):
[B]ut other unexpected dynamics surface as well, some of which play into the hands of the Occupiers. As Occupations spread from Oakland to Berkeley, the sheer number of available police becomes a question, as individual forces rely on mutual aid programs for costly, large-scale eviction efforts. Word emerges that Oakland’s efforts to remove the camp were sped-up due to the constraints imposed by the impending student strike tomorrow. Here the fallout from the brutality of the first Oakland eviction blows back on the police forces themselves: citing the excessive force in Oakland, Berkeley City Council voted unanimously to block mutual aid assistance between the Berkeley PD and UCPD.
And even those more than willing to participate in brutality have begun to demand more booty and protection: in the run-up to the second Oakland eviction this morning, the Alameda County Sheriff’s Department demanded not only $1,000 per officer per day, and the City of Alameda also demanded increased legal protection in the case of a repeat of the brutality that left Iraq veteran Scott Olson critically injured at the hands of an ACSD officer. This increasing legal scrutiny, financial strain, and sheer numerical limitations bode well for the future of Bay Area occupations and those across the nation.
I use the language of war consciously, not out of some desire for violent conclusion but out of a recognition that violence is already there. As our Egyptian comrades made clear in a statement in solidarity with Oakland, “It is not our desire to participate in violence, but it is even less our desire to lose.” Despite the asymmetrical nature of the war that confronts us, the implements are the same: few can deny the shocking militarization of police departments in recent years, or that this heavy weaponry has been all but openly deployed against the Occupiers. If Clausewitz famously argued that war is politics by other means, a formulation which Foucault slyly reversed, the practical reality of the Occupy Movement is that the two are much more difficult to disentangle from one another. Every word from the mouth of these Democratic Mayors, every leak whispered from a cop to a reporter is a rubber bullet in potentia.
I use the language of war because we will not back down, and because as a result, the war will be brought to us.
But more importantly, I speak of war because this is not a one-sided affair, and we should not allow our opponents to strip us of our status as equals simply because we do not respond in kind. Our power is nothing to scoff at, although it circulates in a manner largely distinct from that which we oppose. Just two nights ago, Occupy Portland swelled into the thousands to defend Chapman and Lownsdale squares, facing down riot police, forcing their retreat, and winning the night in the most absolute of terms. Last night, the plaza was cleared and campers removed, but traces of such a stunning initial victory remain in the confidence and compromise of the occupiers as they regroup and go once more into the breach.
And as I finish, I receive late word from Oakland that the occupiers have re-taken Oscar Grant Plaza without more than a symbolic police presence, and even later word of a massive crackdown of Zucotti Park in Lower Manhattan. Another skirmish lost, another battle won, but the long war stretches out before us like an interminable horizon.
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There is a also a good treatise at Cpunch on violence/non violence… I happened not to have grown up in a home that prattled the glories of Gandhi… and I recall reading an assessment of Martin that has always made sense to me, that he was not purely nonviolent, he used the violence of the State. Makes sense to me. It certainly looked that way, over and over….
[F]irst, as Mike King and others have pointed out, the belief that so-called non-violence works and that it is the legitimating feature of a protest, is part of a delusion that afflicts the more privileged- which often means more white- members of the occupy movement. I myself have fallen prey to this in the past. “Protest non-violently and everything will be ok. Remember Dr. King and all he accomplished. If you work with the system it will bend to your needs.” This is all part of the ideology of a privileged though often well intentioned group of people who simply don’t have to deal with the violence that ensures the domestic order of the US-led capitalist-imperialist machine. Are the unemployed, homeless, under-paid and overworked, imprisoned, and dispossessed masses not subject to brutal levels of violence on a daily basis? Is the American capitalist system not propped up by imperialist adventures that tally their casualties in the millions? Indeed, have the nonviolent protest movements of the past actually brought to fruition a free and equal society? Adhering blindly to the rhetoric of violence/nonviolence is a de facto denial of the brutality suffered by literally billions throughout history, and it unfortunately does little to bring about historical justice.
Second, there is a fundamental misrecognition of the role of the state in a capitalist society at work in the ideology of nonviolence. The state, as Marx once said, is the bourgeoisie’s internal committee for the handling of its own affairs. One of the biggest affairs to be handled in a capitalist society is, of course, the fundamentally unjust and unequal class-relationship between capital and labor. Capital, by its very nature, relies on this unequal relationship; and history, by all accounts, has shown that the owners of capital, and its managers and representatives within the state, will consistently apply the most brutal levels of force to maintain this class relationship. What could be clearer than the fact that this power will not be relinquished without a fight?
Finally, non-violence could never be more than one tactic amongst a variety of tactics for the Left to employ in pursuit of broader strategic goals. In American protest politics, however, it often appears as an end in itself. This is a fallacy, which mistakes means for ends, and it needs to be rooted out aggressively as a hindrance to the ultimate goal, which, for revolutionaries, is the end of an oppressive, class-based, racist, sexist, violent system that has its roots deep in the capitalist mode of production. This is where the real violence is, and it is the collective desire to see this system confined to the dustbin of history- not the adherence to an empty ideology, come what may- that is the true litmus test for any revolutionary struggle.
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And a last bit from a visitor to Zuccotti Park over the past weeks:
[S]everal union tradesmen stood nearby. One in particular caught my eyes because he was covered in dust. Then I learned that he had been a first responder on 9/11 as a union plumber and had never washed the clothing out of respect for those that died. His sign said: “Hey NYPD I am a real 9/11 WTC first responder wearing the dust of your friends and families from 10 years ago. SHAME.” A carpenter, Dave Buccola, was standing there and I thought his face was familiar. We had several interesting discussions as he talked about coming in from Brooklyn over the past two months and staying at some times.
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One of the speakers focused on how confusing the movement must look to the authoritarian folks looking at it.
“We are a horizontal movement. The cops think that power looks like shouting orders. We do things differently here. We use consensus processes. There means we create space to hear as many voices as possible and seek decisions that are not just majority decisions but decisions that everyone consents to.”
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The movement speakers know that their efforts will meet fierce, perhaps violent opposition, but know that a movement dies when it stop moving. Hopefully, you can join us either here or at your closest rally on Thursday.
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Centre Street near Chambers: Marchers stream across the Brooklyn Bridge. (Photo by Pearl Gabel for New York Daily News)













Moving this forward, from the end of the last thread, a comment from diane
(shit, …..while doing a belated link check, I just noticed I fucked up a link in an above post, the following is the corrected link: URGENT: to the 72% of NYC Residents who Support Occupy Wall Street: WE NEED YOU NOW! http://occupywallst.org/article/urgent-72-nyc-residents-who-support-occupy-wall-st/ )
but …say, …hey!!!!!!!!!!! …;0) …, ….. the latest link up, at the main site (at about 7:55 PM EST):
Ten Thousand Massed at Foley Square, Thousands More En Route http://occupywallst.org/article/thousands-gather-foley-square/
Posted 3 hours ago on Nov. 17, 2011, 4:41 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt http://occupywallst.org/users/OccupyWallSt/
[embedded video - diane]
Live updates below
At 3PM, thousands of students, workers, and other supporters gathered in Union Square chanting “Shut the city down!” and using the People’s Mic to share stories of how banks and corporate greed have impacted the 99%. Simultaneously, Occupiers took to multiple subway stations in all five boroughs.
Students chanted “CUNY should be free!” and “Student Power!” as they took to the streets along 16th and 5th Avenue, shutting down traffic and leaving police powerless to respond. Police attempts to erect barricades along 5th Avenue failed to block the march, as banners reading “OCCUPIED” were seen along New School buildings.
Now, massive crowds are marching down Broadway toward Foley Square to join another large contingent of labor unions and fellow Occupiers. Despite a massive police presence and helicopters circling overhead, protestors are taking Foley Square. Thousands more are still en route, as marches continue to converge on Foley Square and more supporters pour from the subways.
Live Updates
7:09 pm: A Light Show on Brooklyn Bridge is projecting “Occupy Earth – we are winning” on the side of the Verizon Building. Followed by “Happy Birthday OccupywallstNYC” Reported by @occupywallst
7:06 pm: Police scanners estimate the crowd at 32,650 people. Reported by @jstetser
7:01 pm: Entrance of Brooklyn Bridge City Hall station closed.
7:00 pm: One source gives around 2,000 protesters on Brooklyn Bridge
6:44 pm: https://twitter.com/?photo_id=1#!/AnalectFilms/status/137290008620052481/photo/1 – Taking Canal St.
6:42 pm: http://twitpic.com/7fjlrc – On the Brooklyn Bridge.
6:35 pm: From TheOther99, reports of NYPD intimidating the press, told Tim Pool he would have his press card revoked if he was arrested.
6:30 pm: City Hall is locked down, from @JoshHarkinson
6:15 pm: 20,000 https://twitter.com/#!/TheOther99/status/137308234171170816 marching towards Brooklyn Bridge from Foley Square, chanting “Whose Streets? Our Streets!”
5:30 pm: #OWS shuts down Canal St.
5:25 pm: NYPD cavalry begins to be appear on Centre Street.
5:16 pm: 90 Fifth Avenue occupied by students from Pratt, Columbia, NYU, Hunter pic.twitter.com/lBNwUwpJ
5:07 pm: more police sirens heard headed toward Foley
5:00 pm: chant: “Bloomberg beware, Zuccotti Park is everywhere!”
4:53 pm: marchers headed from west end of 14th have been cut off by police barricades
4:47 pm: 5th ave has been shut down
4:42 pm: music and chants can be heard emanating from Foley Square
4:40 pm: as other marches continue heading down Broadway and from Liberty Square, 7th and 6th st are reported to have been taken by protesters
4:26 pm: Foley reported full of protestors, NYU students still on their way; other feeder marches (including from Liberty Square) also en route
I actually volunteered to spend some time with a “splinter group” of protesters earlier today. They instructed us on how to be arrested. (memorize the NLG phone #, invoke the right to remain silent when dealing with the arresting cops, etc.) Thankfully it didn’t happen. B of A knew we were on our way, ahead of the larger protest, and locked their doors.
Several “splinters” were arrested down the street after they walked into Wells Fargo, sat down, and refused to leave. The best part of that was that while we were outside their building (which belongs to Standard Insurance/Mortgage: I had a mailroom job there, eons ago), a couple of wags go ahold of the US and Portland flags outside. They brought them down and then re-flew them upside down. Several people took pictures. It didn’t last long, but it lightened the mood quite a bit.
I saw the bike cops actually shoving people off the street using their bikes: pushing on people with their bikes as if they were portable barricades. Pretty obnoxious.
I missed the pepper spray. They didn’t bring that out until it was almost dusk, over near the MAX stations across the street from Chase.
A round of applause for ms_xeno! (really, you deserve it)….
Brava!
[bows]
I was seriously impressed with how much the demonstrators had on the ball. They really are accomplished with the decentralized, top down (use phrase of your choice) school of management. I think it made things very difficult for the police, which is as it should be. Small wonder that they were whining on the air this evening about how a permitted march would’ve been more acceptable. (Yeah, because it’s all about catering to your needs, Dollies. [rolleyes] )
At one point outside B of A, people were killing time by lighting fake paper money on fire and then stamping it out in the street. Just a “bill” or two at a time, for safety’s sake. By the time I got home, KGW was reporting that people were “lighting money on fire,” as if they honestly thought that the protesters were burning real money for all to see.
You gotta’ love the free press. :/
Over and over they prove themselves very agile… it gives me so much hope….
Speaking of the media… Miss Dorli Rainey, of the 84 and pepper sprayed in Seattle, on Olberman (thanks to Madman for the transcript)
That is the thing about Occupy, they have to pay attention. They do.
Sorry. Should’ve said “not top-down.”
Should take a rest now. :/
way to go ms x!
#OWS Verizon Building “bat signal” projections (video)
NY Deputy Mayor: press don’t have the right to report in vicinity of NYPD ops
Just amazing. Heil Bloombutt and his baby blooms.
oh I just knew it… it was Wolfson (I don’t know the other one) Wolfson has been with Hillary for years… til he glomed onto Bloomberg a few years ago.
NYPD hates books: police and Brookfield properties workers destroy #OWS library. Again.
maybe I’m weird, but I see this as related to so much that is starting to bubble up politically and socially:
Composers as Gardeners – Brian Eno
oh that is completely fascinating… from the cybernetics author to the analogy to Versailles…
I’m a huge believer in the idea that changes in worldview bubble through culture, sometimes shifting societies over generations.
Everything is connected…
Occupy demonstration closes North Ave. bridge
Chief Flynn was on video on the 10 o’clock news saying he wouldn’t “fulfiill their martyrdom fantasies”. The cops ended up leaving them alone to block the bridge for about 3 hours.
Of course, small detail that the bridge was on a major road in a majority minority neighborhood … I suspect he wouldn’t have been so patient if it was a bridge near Marquette University.
I’m hoping he says yes.
maybe I am insane (or over caffeinated) but that sounds do-able. It does.
There are so many unemployed banking/finance people in CA that would jump at the chance to make a little less for a virtual non-profit than they did for their previous employer (plus health insurance) but stick it to the man. They have contacts, friends, business associates. They’re not worthless. They’re valuable and sitting around waiting to be picked up.
And for some reason, I’m reminded of the line from Ghostbusters:
hmmm Cuuuute. I think htey are all on the run. Or, they SHOULD be.
Supposedly she drafted the legistaltion last January. (Don’t laugh TOO hard, now)
Read more: Politico
I suppose she’ll also start paying for her health care subsidy? How much do you think it’s cost us to get her the massively expensive specialized care she needs to recover, just to slash our salaries and benefits?
I cannot even begin to guess what her care has cost. Even now she has private, in-home therapy, occupational and speech and whatever else.
IMO she is pretty right wing, one of the fake-soft faces of Fascism… I think her winger supporters should pick up the care. And I am sick to death of the Dems pretending that Palin is the one who should be fingered for being some “weapons mama”, who contributed to heated gun rhetoric…. Giffords has plenty of shots of herself with guns, some in a ‘take aim and fire’ stance that she used in campaigns.
I am so sick of them all I could spit.
She is right wing, but more of a political opportunist than led by any sort of ideology IMO
yeah i agree. I watched the execrable interview she did wtih Diane. In that, she made herself into a cute puppy that wants you to adopt her. Which is the role she thinks will get her back to congress.
Except that all pols and most pol children are lower than snake shit, I’d say it was awful. However, it was just par for the golf course. I hope to god their dual, massive egos, she and the stub-husband, do not extend to returning to some tortured baby-making ot make up to her for loss of part of her brain and her treasure and blood seat in congress.
I was fishing around as I think Consort bailed in Hawaii, not going on to Australia or Bali…. and lo and behold, what do I find.
From the SMH:
Might as well laugh.
oh and yes, she did bail in Hawaii, tho originally scheduled to go on to Australia, Bali and Indonesia… She flew back to DC from Hawaii.
What a trooper.
one explanation for that change in plans may be the incident with the guy from idaho firing several rounds into the white house living quarters last week. the kids were in DC IIRC.
No, she ofen bails. I’d be really surprised if the kids mattered much … she likes to cut out somewhere 2 – 4 days out on the junkets..
The damn job is the lousy business and mil junkets. Oh and the campaigning. Sh cuts out on that too.
And last, I don’t buy the crap on Ortega. I really don’t. They want the prayer circles to convene. The damn dumb blacks and whites, the Slob-ites, to weep and moan for Slob.
Sorry I am beyond cynical. The game is so up in this country…
Interview with creator of Occupy Wall Street “bat-signal” projections during Brooklyn Bridge #N17 march
Interview with creator of Occupy Wall Street “bat-signal” projections during Brooklyn Bridge #N17 march
Thank god she did not take money… Obviously she has ethics (unlike Wall St as an example)… BUT it may also save her from the Housing Authority. The whole way of dealing with poor people gets, if possible, more and more punitive.
thanks for that
I like the way people are making these connections:
Welp, trying to decide which link to use (this McClatchy link, currently on the wonderful Mcat’s ‘sidebar’), was the first I became aware of), I thought I’d go with this link…first, since so many of the muckety muck, and wanna be muckety muck, of the Royal Kingdom are historically known as expert practitioners, as regards pedophilia ( as are, many of the hush hush, ‘set’ for life, ivory pillars of my own home state, PA). And then there’s that bonus picture that might even be mistaken for a shot of Poppy, as regarded Kiddie Gate. (a younger, more chisel chinned, virile shot, which is likely the accused looked in 1977, is available here)
From McClatchy:
Interestingly, there is nothing at any of the links, not even the ABC, ‘first person report,’ link, as regards any mainstream journalists asking him if he still has the recording, and can they listen to it; … thereby implying, by that omission, that the recording is worthless. Certainly, if the nondisclosure agreement he signed regarding the Maryland Settlement, precludes him from sharing that recording, that should have been noted in all of the ‘reports,’ as either a question mark, or in ABC’s interview piece, as a question that was asked; …. but one must tread with a feather step as regards our Revered National Experts ™. …especially when voiceless children are involved.
(I have to say tooo, that I can imagine how tempting, as a child – cute as a button, doe eyed, lusterous head of hair, improper usage of the english language, and ethnic/not to be believed …… – might be to an ivory tower pedophile.)
what’s in the NYDN, the McClatchy AND the DM are why Penn State has to be stopped for a length of time, YEARS, from participating in NCAA games. Has to be. Anything else is a fiction… an enabling fiction. One big sign is keeping Bradley… another is that McQueary is desperately trying t retell ‘how it happened’, in new stories that are at variance with what he said in the GJ.
It has to be stopped. Dead in its tracks.
Thanks for those links.
Yikes… but not surprising.
There are, have been ….for a few centuries, some truly vile persons ….residing in PA. ….Cali, among others, is heavy in the competition for that title …..as you know hon, perhaps managed to win it, … at this point.
sigh
California as Land’s End certainly gets its share of everybody. Anyone who thinks not is just an idiot and has not looked around.
WTF is wrong in PA and, in fact, in surrounding states as well, I have no idea. I assume it goes back all the way and was bolstered, strengthened in successive waves of immigration. Fostered by who runs the towns and villages.
Frankly it’s everywhere.
yup, … I highlight PA …and Cali – for that matter Illinois, …Texas, …and Florida, …etc. – because that’s where the Fed money has been concentrated, those strategic locales, further empowering those residents who are vile ……
sorry, I had intended to write (note the bolding):
Also, I shouldn’t have noted “Maryland” as the settlement state, It was New Jersey:
for the lurkers out there saying that McLaughin is just a money grubber: …FUCK YOU (yes, even if his claims were a tad fabricated, which I highly doubt). … Your lords, and lordessas, long ago, set in place, … that no matter how loving, empathetic, …….decent, …….. a person might be, If they don’t BUCK UP, and ‘EARN’ ENOUGH COIN TO “LIVE” (generally equated (though so rarely admitted) with something ultimately life destroying, shalllow, vapid, and hideous), sucking the dicks of vile beings (as those Lordessas delighted), they will either have to commit suicide, or live under a bridge, and die a hideously slow death, being spat on by you pathetic lackies
(and how can you be expected to earn that kind of coin when your days and nights are filled with memories of abuse at the hands of those who also nanny, and legislate, your life? ….when you’re so overwrought by the rampant abuse, you can’t even sit through a hideously sadistic, ‘dog eat dog’ “jawb interview,” without sweating? …or breaking down in tears because you know the fuckers will hire the biggest lying prick, cocksucker in the interview line? …. and as we all know (thank you so much Hollowood, et al, for that education!!!!!!), having sweat, or tear, glands (unless you’ve had a fake gland transplant, like creepy, weepy Boehner, et al.), should never be admitted when you’re going for that Touch Down!!!!! ™, that ..Immaculate, … Hail Mary!!!!!! ™ … )
Occupy Chaotic Good
I forgot about that site!! Thanks for reminding me.
I’d forgotten about it too, yet somehow I always end up back there eventually.
I’m reminded of Powell’s Books, and their successful Unionization when it was just beginning, back in ’99 or so.
When somebody asked an organizer why she didn’t just quit and get a better job somewhere else, she said something like, Well, what does that solve in the long run? Somebody else still has to take over this job and be underpaid and overworked, after I’m gone.
Ear Assault
scary
Sure is scary. Looks like the coming of a new fad (along with USPD Drones and Raytheon, Prison PainRays). I’d love to know the extent of that G20 atrocity in Pittsburgh, PA, where the LRAD is reported to have been first used, in the UZ, against a crowd (though I remember reading of an LRAD type device being used (in New England somehere? ) as a teen deterrent even prior to that, in the evil twin, BushShrub, years)
(I wish someone would correct that odd, ‘posted’ date of July 6th, 2011 (directly under the article title and author’s name), versus the correct, November 17th or 18th, 2011, post date.)
re the anti teen high frequency sound device:
The Mosquito
Calls to ban ‘anti-teen’ device:
not to worry about the discrimination of the device, the company now markets one that can be used on all ages:
Here’s That Occupy Portland Pepper Spray Photo That Everybody’s Talking About
OMG
I think the average BO commenter would be tossed out of Oregon Live for being too hateful, stupid and redneck-y to live.
Which is really saying something, if you’ve ever spent an hour on Oregon Live.
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Stop Black Friday
which of course is part of it all.
a cop pulling a protester by her hair during #N17 protests
EXCLUSIVE: photos of BofA’s new #OWS-themed ad campaign
big brass corporate ballz
UFO: Unidentified Flying Occupation. Tents float over UC Berkeley after cops trash encampment.
Report: NYPD cop pushes New York Supreme Court Judge into wall
you wonder if anything catches up…. or do they just get away with it all.
I wonder, are NYers fine wth Bloombito and Kelly? Because those are dangerous men.
One-Woman Recall Effort In Wisconsin Takes Off
Occupy Arrests
oh dear god. i just heard on a news update that some aberrational human has been waiting outside a Best Buy in … oh somewhere in Florida, St Petersburg or Orlando or somwhere, since MONDAY for “Black Friday”.. which is
next week. Right?
I think that is certifiable.
New
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