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It’s hard… 30 November 2011

Posted by marisacat in 2012 Re Election, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Pakistan, Total fucking lunatics, WAR!.
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The White House hasn’t had success brightening relations between the two countries. | AP Photo

It’s hard out there for a pretzel.  Especially one in the “brightening” business (who made up that line?!).

From the Politico article… firing on all engines it seems:

[“W]e have shown the limits of what carrots-only can do” as an approach, former Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair said Monday during an Aspen Institute forum in Washington. “In early 2010, under the energetic leadership of Richard Holbrooke, the United States put together a very large and comprehensive assistance program for Pakistan. … It turned out to be too much. Pakistan choked on some of it and didn’t believe the rest.”

Blair said the carrots the Obama team offered to Pakistan coincided with some progress — followed by substantial backsliding.  . . . .

Covers all the bases:   We tried for the ungrateful Pakis, but too hard… too many carrots no sticks.  We were too good for them!  Who knew.  Our man in Islamabad died from the effort but before he died, he was very energetic (what a fucking crock). 

We’re not believable – because we try too hard! – but we did manage to slap some sense into the renegade Pakis.  Then, somehow, it was all sloppy muddy at the top of the mountain and we slid back down to a ruined base camp.

Makes about as much sense as the quotes in the report.

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1. marisacat - 30 November 2011

Moving this comment of diane’s forward from the end of the last thread:

Maybe he could busy himself with this (oh wait!), …sooprize:

Researcher’s Video Shows Secret Software on Millions of Phones Logging Everything

By David Kravets

November 29, 2011 | 7:18 pm

The Android developer who raised the ire of a mobile-phone monitoring company last week is on the attack again, producing a video of how the Carrier IQ software secretly installed on millions of mobile phones reports most everything a user does on a phone.

Though the software is installed on most modern Android, BlackBerry and Nokia phones, Carrier IQ was virtually unknown until 25-year-old Trevor Eckhart of Connecticut analyzed its workings, revealing that the software secretly chronicles a user’s phone experience — ostensibly so carriers and phone manufacturers can do quality control.

But now he’s released a video actually showing the logging of text messages, encrypted web searches and, well, you name it.

Eckhart labeled the software a “rootkit,” and the Mountain View, California-based software maker threatened him with legal action and huge money damages. The Electronic Frontier Foundation came to his side last week, and the company backed off on its threats. The company told Wired.com last week that Carrier IQ’s wares are for “gathering information off the handset to understand the mobile-user experience, where phone calls are dropped, where signal quality is poor, why applications crash and battery life.”

The company denies its software logs keystrokes. Eckhart’s 17-minute video clearly undercuts that claim.

The video shows the software logging Eckhart’s online search of “hello world.” That’s despite Eckhart using the HTTPS version of Google which is supposed to hide searches from those who would want to spy by intercepting the traffic between a user and Google.

By the way, it cannot be turned off without rooting the phone and replacing the operating system. And even if you stop paying for wireless service from your carrier and decide to just use Wi-Fi, your device still reports to Carrier IQ.

It’s not even clear what privacy policy covers this. Is it Carrier IQ’s, your carrier’s or your phone manufacturer’s? And, perhaps, most important, is sending your communications to Carrier IQ a violation of the federal government’s ban on wiretapping?

(there’s an embedded copy of the video at the linked, Wired site. bolding mine)

2. marisacat - 30 November 2011

And this too from diane, moving forward:

(here’s the Occupy Los Angeles Live Stream site, for anyone able to view the videos (note, the video time stamps look like they’re noted in GMT time, versus PST, an 8 hour difference.)

3. wu ming - 30 November 2011

word on twitter coming out of the occupy LA crackdown is that LAPD in hazmat suits are doing DNA swabs of all arrested people. 4th amendment is a dead letter.

marisacat - 30 November 2011

yup… I’d say so.

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011

hazmat suits?!?!

this country disgusts me.

wu ming - 30 November 2011

the initial claim was to protect the cops from feces-flinging protesters, but it has shifted around a bit.

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011

you’d think pigs would be used to shit.

jus’ sayin’

4. BooHooHooMan - 30 November 2011

It’s Official! Ya can just print your own money now!
Put your own face on it, even. LOL
Choose a denomination!
Run off as much as ya like!
(If you’re a Bankster that is.)..So. ..We’re about to see a huge spike in the ole Pump ‘n Dumper that is Wall Street.
And utter collapse of purchasing power for the mere Earth-bound mortal livestock that are the rest of us….

Fuckin jackboot crackheads. This is not going to end well….

BooHooHooMan - 30 November 2011

Oil above $101 on central banks’s liquidity plan

Yeh , That and the bombing of Iran, the meltdown in Egypt, Syria, Kuwait., Manhattan….

5. BooHooHooMan - 30 November 2011
6. marisacat - 30 November 2011

OK! I am calling it!

Dow 15,000 by Xmas. Do I hear a bid of 16,000?

I mean, why not?

(snicker)

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011

why not … it’ll only make a louder POP when it finally breaks.

ts - 30 November 2011

I doubt it makes much difference. There’s no more housing bubble goose laying golden eggs. All they can do is print fake IOUs to pay off fake IOUs.

7. diane - 30 November 2011

HUGE. Two Million on strike in the UK and barely a peep in the US nooooze online today. …Saw nothing (unless I missed a stifled sneeze, in a .00001 font, … so surprised) from the UK’s Daily News, unless it just posted, way, way late. Though they have posted, in 3 inch font, about the L.A. ARRESTS!!!! (with gratuitous pics of the ‘wildest’ looking among the arrestees).

I’m positive the powers that be in the UK are busy pitting the Unemployed, and against the Barely Employed, just like they do here.

From , The Independent:

Public sector pension protest – Live Coverage

Unions hail public sector strike

Alan Jones

Wednesday 30 November 2011

Unions hailed a strike by up to two million public sector workers as “historic” tonight as they angrily rejected claims by the Prime Minister that the biggest walkout in a generation had been a “damp squib”.

Officials from 30 unions involved in today’s strike reported huge support, with up to 90% of some organisations taking action, often for the first time in their lives.

The strike closed more than three quarters of schools in England, as well as courts, museums, libraries and jobcentres, disrupted transport, hospitals and Government departments, led to around 15% of driving tests being cancelled, and was described by unions as the biggest since the 1979 Winter of Discontent.

Physiotherapists, headteachers, librarians, lollipop ladies, refuse collectors, weather forecasters and scientists were among those involved in the stoppage.

Civil service union Prospect said action by 26,000 of its members alone disrupted or stopped work at more than 400 locations, ranging from Ministry of Defence sites to prisons.

More than 1,000 rallies were held across the UK, including one in central London attended by tens of thousands of workers, some accompanied by their children.

Len McCluskey, leader of Unite, said the rally showed the depth of anger among public sector workers, adding: “The Prime Minister is completely out of touch. I have been to 12 picket lines and there has been a fantastic response both from workers and the general public.

“The Government can try to spin and tell lies, but they have been found out.”

University and College Union leader Sally Hunt said: “Cheap potshots add nothing to what should be a serious debate about millions of people’s futures, and just expose how out of touch the Prime Minister really is.”

Warnings of massive delays at Heathrow airport failed to materialise, with passengers saying border controls were “better than usual”.

Union officials accused the Government of “ramping up” possible airport disruption and claimed that “under-trained” staff had been drafted in to cover striking immigration and passport workers.

Debbie Arnell, a 42-year-old apprenticeship assessor from Bournemouth who had flown back to Heathrow’s terminal five after a holiday in Philadelphia, said there appeared to be “more staff than usual” at passport control.

Colin Matthews, chief executive of airport operator BAA, said: “Due to the effective contingency plans we put in place with airlines and the UK Border Agency, immigration queues are currently running at normal levels for Heathrow.

“As a result of the whole airport community working together over the past few days we have more immigration officers on duty and fewer passengers arriving than would otherwise be the case. That has put us in a better place to avoid the serious delays and widespread disruption at Heathrow that were projected last week.”

The Public and Commercial Services union reported a “huge” turnout for the strike, with up to 90% of staff in some Government departments, including Revenue and Customs, taking action.

Unison leader Dave Prentis said: “I wouldn’t call two million people taking strike action a damp squib. Cameron is sounding increasingly desperate in his attacks on public service workers.

“He has only to turn on the TV, or listen to the radio – or look out the window – to see the nurses, dinner ladies, paramedics, social workers, teaching assistants, lollipop ladies amongst others standing up for their pensions. And the thousands of picket lines, demonstrations, rallies and events are not a figment of our imagination. These people are angry public servants who the Government has driven to the end of their tether.”

A “handful” of staff from 10 Downing Street went on strike, and the school attended by Mr Cameron’s son Elwen, was closed.

The Department of Health told NHS trusts in England they must not release figures regarding staff on strike or the number of cancelled operations and appointments, it was revealed.

A letter said a “national position” statement must be sent to the media ahead of any regional breakdowns.

Christina McAnea, head of health at Unison, said: “It is outrageous that the Department of Health are desperately trying to hide the fact that NHS services are being disrupted across the UK. Our members are reporting fantastic support for the day of action.

“We appreciate that this will cause difficulty for patients but we have made sure that patient safety will not be compromised.”

Mr McCluskey said it was a “diabolical” attempt to “distort the truth”.

The London Ambulance Service revealed that 42% of its staff were on strike, saying it was under “increased pressure” after receiving 30% more 999 calls than normal.

In Salford, Greater Manchester, council binmen manned a picket line outside their depot. Standing around a burning brazier to keep warm, they held placards including one asking: “Do we look Gold Plated?”

Primary schoolteacher Teresa Hughes, 48, of Newport, South Wales, who joined a rally in Swansea, said: “I am the main earner in my family and teachers like me are having to work more but for less.

“I don’t think anyone wanted to go on strike, and we don’t take a decision like this lightly. But ask anyone here today and they will tell you they feel like they have been left little choice but to take part in industrial action. The fact that the Government has reneged on its pension deal does not give us much faith.”

Cabinet Office minister Francis Maude said the strike was “inappropriate, untimely and irresponsible”, adding: “Responsibility for any disruption which people may experience today lies squarely with union leaders.

“Claims that there are no negotiations going on are simply not true. There were formal discussions with the civil service unions only yesterday and there will be formal discussions with the teaching unions tomorrow and health on Friday.

“In addition, there are frequent informal contacts between the Government and the TUC. All of this underlines how indefensible today’s strike is while these talks at scheme level are moving forward.”

The Chartered Society of Physiotherapy (CSP) said 90% of its 23,000 NHS members were estimated to be on strike, for only the second time in the union’s 117-year history.

Alex MacKenzie, of the CSP, said: “Physiotherapy staff have demonstrated their anger over these pensions proposals by turning out in huge numbers today. No-one wanted to strike, but our members felt we had to take a stand.”

(Bolding mine. The Guardian has this coverage and a live blog here..)

I’m betting the lack of US online coverage today (there was, interestingly, far more pre-strike coverage, in the wee, pre-dawn hours), may have some connection to fear of 12.12.11 PORT STRIKES SPREADING!!!!!!!!!

marisacat - 30 November 2011

Pretty wonderful isn’t it?

I caught coverage on Euronews and France 24….

I hope they keep it up. It’s pretty much ‘go for bust’ days, as I see it.

diane - 30 November 2011

yes, it is pretty wonderful, honey! and… looking forward to December 12th too …..

;0)

diane - 30 November 2011

Bummer, I meant to write:

Saw nothing (unless I missed a stifled sneeze, in a .00001 font, … so surprised) from the UK’s Daily Mail, unless it just posted, way, way late. Though they have posted, in 3 inch font, about the L.A. ARRESTS!!!! (with gratuitous pics of the ‘wildest’ looking among the arrestees).

(not : ….Daily News …. )

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011

NPR gave plenty of “All Things Considered” time to the PM making fun of the strike and claiming that it had no effect.

diane - 30 November 2011

yup, dangerously worse than worthless, aren’t they.

8. marisacat - 30 November 2011

IOZ is pondering pakistan too. Truly Double Speak and Triple Speak is reaching a consumate moment.

I am just hearing a slow speaking, supposedly overcome iwth emotion Villaraigosa say we have ”now witnessed possibly the greatest moment in the history of the LAPD”. (meaning clearing Occupy).

He really did say that.

I am calling it. There is nothing, no fucking nothing nothing nothing left. It is all charades. And retail politics gangs.

marisacat - 30 November 2011

.. and thugs in service to the 2 gangs.

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011

Former Salt Lake City mayor Rocky Anderson plans to create new party, run for president

SALT LAKE CITY — Rocky Anderson says he is running for president of the United States — and starting a new political party.

The outspoken former Salt Lake City mayor announced his bid for president Tuesday night on his Facebook page. He also asked for suggestions on what to name a new political party, encouraging readers to vote before Wednesday morning.

According to that Facebook account, Anderson said the party will stand for “greater economic equality, an end to wars of aggression, aggressive action on climate protection, and an end to corporate control of government.”

Anderson was a longtime Democrat who has now disavowed that political party.

On several occasions, he criticized former President George W. Bush for America’s involvement in the Iraq war.

In the past month, he has appeared with protesters for the Occupy SLC movement.

marisacat - 30 November 2011

I remember him… unless it is a dodge, some feint mounted by the DP, I’d certainly read what he has to say…

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011

Rocky Anderson says adieu to the Democratic Party

from back in August:

Political junkies have speculated for months that former Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson might run for Congress in 2012 — especially if someone slipped a hallucinogenic drug into the chocolate malts of legislative leaders and they created a liberal Salt Lake City-dominated district this gerrymandering session.

Forget about it.

Even if Anderson wanted to run for Congress — and he says he doesn’t — it’s unlikely the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee would give him any money. Especially after the scathing note he sent to the committee this week.

Anderson, Utah’s most liberal Utah elected official in memory, told national Democratic leaders he doesn’t want to be a Democrat anymore.

“Until the Democratic Party shows some spine and draws a line in the sand — that an end to the tax breaks for the wealthy needs to be part of any debt/budget bill — please take my name off your list,” Anderson wrote to the DCCC. It was a response to the committee’s form letter to him, asking for money to help the Democrats “stand strong” for the election year in 2012.

Anderson also chastised the Democrats for not pursuing impeachment against former President George W. Bush for his administration’s advocacy of “torture” when the Democrats controlled Congress. In the letter, he praised former Republican President Ronald Reagan for his stance against torture and Reagan’s respect for international laws against torture.

“How dare you send an email with the subject line ‘Standing strong,’ ” he added. “You didn’t do it on Iraq, you didn’t do it on torture, you didn’t do it on signing statements, you haven’t done it on Afghanistan, you haven’t done it on defense spending, you haven’t done it on real health care reform, you haven’t done it on energy policy and the climate crisis, you haven’t done it on the evisceration of our system of checks and balances through the invocation of the state secrets doctrine, and you haven’t done it on the debt ceiling fiasco. Those who have stood strong in Congress can be counted on one hand — and they have faced nothing but opposition by Nancy Pelosi and most of the rest of the so-called Democrats.”

marisacat - 30 November 2011

ugh. Well I am glad someone appears to be trying but I am so fucking sick to death of reading blither like this:

In the letter, he praised former Republican President Ronald Reagan for his stance against torture and Reagan’s respect for international laws against torture.

Can no one get thru a political day wth out bowing to Reagan?

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011

Maddow showed him praising Huntsman in a clip, too. She’s about to interview him.

marisacat - 30 November 2011

Let me know how it goes.

Huntsman… well UTah I guess.

On the Reagan thing I just get flashes of El Mozote thru my brain. And that was just wht got reported.

The whole Reagan adoration “thing” is so torn from the pages of Myra Breckenridge.

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011

I think a lot of liberals think it’ll shame the current crop of insane wingers … which of course it won’t. Of course, I’m guilty of pointing out that Nixon was more liberal than Obama, in the vain hope of shaming Donklephants out of their stupid tribal worship … equally doomed.

marisacat - 30 November 2011

I do understand it is a device…. I really do. A WAY to talk about things or introduce them – give cover of a sort to even discussing things…… but it is all so poisonous.

ESP on torture.

diane - 30 November 2011

When I saw Salt Lake City, …and a Dem, I just knew there would be something about Huntsman in that candidacy, (a vaguely implied vice potus … or some such). Huntsman horrifies me more than any of the other (only carny sideshows) Rethugs. Of course all the Blue Dogs, and even likeable “far left leaning,” are slobbering all over him, not reading between the lines (talk about a fly trap).

Fuck, Kissinger slobbers over him, (gotta lurve that tricky wording of the url address though, …not much the ReThugs don’t plot about, ….well beforehand.) and he’s tight as fuck with 41- Herbert Walker. If there’s still something titled the US Presidency by the time 2016 rolls around, I’m betting he’ll be the chosen.

From May 20, 2011

George Stephanopoulos: Let’s talk some domestic issues. A lot of Republicans — again, Republican primary voters — are going to wonder about your decision as governor of Utah to take the stimulus funds, President Obama’s stimulus funds. And when you were asked about it, you suggested that one of the problems with the stimulus is that it wasn’t big enough. Is that what you still believe?

Jon Huntsman: If you read on in that interview, you will find that I was specifically referring to corporate tax cuts…..

George Stephanopoulos: How about Congressman Paul Ryan and (the) budget? Former Speaker Gingrich had some trouble talking about that this week. If you were in Congress, would you have voted for it?

Jon Huntsman: I would’ve voted for it. [it = Paul Ryan's budget would slash $6 trillion, reform entitlements, cut taxes - diane]

George Stephanopoulos: Including the Medicare provisions?

Jon Huntsman: Including the Medicare provisions…

I don’t believe for one minute that the droning would stop under him either (as he slyly alludes to, in that interview), other than to maybe shift more drones back to the Homeland!!!! Honestly, I believe he’s yet another chilling Sociopath (and Billionaire Yachts Man), who lurve’s to rev up the Harley ™,play guitar ™, and get wild!!!! ™ . Just my take (him being proud of carrying Kissingers briefcase as a child, certainly didn’t help in my opinion of him).

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011

he said the new party, the Justice Party (voted for on his Facebook page) would be antiwar, including anti drug war.

marisacat - 30 November 2011

how is he doing?

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011

okay, not fantastic, but really hammering on the broken justice system, minimum sentencing.

marisacat - 30 November 2011

Mandatory minimums was a BIG turning point.

There is a mini move out here to tweak, a tiny tweak as I see it, Three Strikes… but it is all fake imo. IF you do not break this mess open, look at charging (stealing less than 10.00 in groceries can be charged as “commercial burglary”) and if you do not look at mandatory minimum sentencing, the removal of judicial discretion and so on… then you have no reform, no tweak will do it.

wu ming - 1 December 2011

howard dean’s cousin, BTW.

10. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011

San Diego police arrest congressional candidate for voter registration in Civic Center Plaza

Democratic congressional candidate Ray Lutz was arrested for registering voters in San Diego’s public Freedom Plaza (AKA Civic Center Plaza), where the local Occupy protest has taken place. The San Diego police arrested Mr Lutz for trespassing and confiscated his voter registration forms.

marisacat - 30 November 2011

Nothing left. Cali is in shut down.

I mean, why should we bother to think anything else?

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011

If you watch the video, you can hear a bystander asking why he’s being arrested, and when he’s told it’s for trespassing, the bystander asks, “isn’t this a public square?”

marisacat - 30 November 2011

War on the Homeland Battlespace.

diane - 30 November 2011

But they don’t even detain for even one moment, an, as yet, unamed woman who shot everyone with pepper spray in a mall.

Goes right along with Cali cops shackling five year old black children, and pepper spraying University students who are peacefully sitting on the ground, Hazmat Suits, etc., etc., etc..

marisacat - 30 November 2011

Hell on toast.. I went to look up the latest on the peppper spraying woman… and some HS kid in NYC has sprayed her fellow classmates.

I see Jon Stewart is referring to PS as “our new national car horn”. he’s got that right.

diane - 30 November 2011

what a fucking mess ………..

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011
12. Ganjafied Gabacho - 30 November 2011

As far as Huntsmen, Rocky et al. go I’ll have to reference some newly acquired midwest culture and quote Kracker Send me to hell
or Salt Lake City

It’d be about the same to me*

*not to be confused as an endorsement of either kind of music; country or western :mr.green:

Not to cock my own crow… :oops: crow my own cock :roll: I’m sure there’s a joke in there somewhere but I give up.

Anyhoo, This research is certainly something to crow about :cool:

Ravens use their beaks and wings much like humans rely on our hands to make gestures, such as for pointing to an object, scientists now find.

This is the first time researchers have seen gestures used in this way in the wild by animals other than primates.

mucho snippo

Still, ravens and their relatives such as crows and magpies have been found to be remarkably intelligent over the years, surpassing most other birds in terms of smarts and even rivaling great apes on some tests.

Just sayin’ :wink:

Live Science

In other nooze, with a little more sorcery ( :twisted: ) Los Gabachos/ El Cuervo made it home without further mishap but I couldn’t go 24 hrs in AZ without having a “secondary inspection” at the BP reten…. :evil:

Thank an Angry Male Patriarchal God Fiction that I live in AmeriKKKa: Land of the Fee and Home of the Knave

marisacat - 30 November 2011

Good thing you got home safe….

whew!

Ganjafied Gabacho - 30 November 2011

You can say that again… :wink:

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 November 2011

gotta watch out for those fundies w/ power tools … they’re tricksy.

diane - 30 November 2011

Ravens can really mimic human speech too, heard one do it as a kid, someone had it as a pet in the back yard of a country gas station we stopped at, …. really fascinating.

Glad you made it back okay! Didn’t want to ‘say’ anthing at the time, but that bearing problem sounded major.

wu ming - 1 December 2011

the whole corvid family is hella smart.

13. diane - 30 November 2011

Slick!, a win for stuffed, sanctimonius, SF shirts, a win for Mickey, and … Mickys! …and a loss for the kiddle’s Parents (in addition to the standard, meant to shame and humiliate, Nanny State fingerwag to the criminal parents) :

SAN FRANCISCO – McDonald’s restaurants in San Francisco have found a way to comply with a city law that bans free toy giveaways with Happy Meals: charge 10 cents for the toys.

The San Francisco Chronicle reports that franchises in the city will begin charging the dime to customers who request that the toys be added to their Happy Meals.

San Francisco last year became the first major U.S. city to prohibit fast-food restaurants from including toys with children’s meals that don’t meet certain nutritional guidelines. The law takes effect Thursday.

Oh, and they’ll be getting right to all of the, almost homeless and homeless kiddles, with barely any food (let alone free toys), right after they remove kiddles who don’t pass Mickey’s scale test, from their parents, and send them to a Sandusky/Second Mile prototype.

diane - 30 November 2011

(sorry should have ended the blockquote after The law takes effect Thursday.)

marisacat - 30 November 2011

The SF Board of Suprvisors is an embarrassment. I caught the puffed shirt supe… Eric Chu or Chan his name was, trying to spin this as a win for the Bd of Supes Nannydom.

What a joke.

diane - 30 November 2011

Weren’t they working on some sort of kiddle’s goldfish raid too (with, of course the proper koi exemptions for those kiddles whose responible parents can provide the proper backyard, sustainable koi habitat/racoon din din).

marisacat - 1 December 2011

God knws what is next. More on plastic bags no doubt… then water or water bottles. OR the garbage men as undercover detail if we are not composting.

I am in favor of so many things, but this is getting to be like the mandatory organic “plastic” utensils when Nancy decided how th congressional canteen was run. The organic spoons really did melt in soup.

diane - 1 December 2011

Are you referring to the recycled potato ‘silverware’ that more than likely jacked up the price of potatoes significantly for those whose main mail it was (along with the dog chow)? … Though, I will admit, the up side was that after use, the whizkins in Sly Con Valley, could further recycle them, and save coin too, by giving them to the homeless residing on the banks of the Guadalupe ‘River’, as they did their, post lunch, alpha jogs along the jogging pathways.

marisacat - 1 December 2011

It was some recycled organic material, potatoe or corn or something. Anyway, soup spoons did not hold up in hot soup. I would imagine they were useless for stirring sweetenr into hot cofee and tea too.

It’s much better to figure out there is a cost, a use of materials and resources in everything… figure out what does the least harm. The utensils prbably were sold as compostable… but i would guess that th congressional canteen kitchen does not maintain a composting recycle system… just a wild guess…

The answer isn’t always the convoluted supposedly new and green version… esp if there is a huge commercial component to the item.

diane - 1 December 2011

For you, my dear, possibly the best thing the lizard foot has ever done for mankind:

Dear Mr. Bronstein,

I am appalled and very angry that San Franciscans are being punished for attaining the highest recycling rate in the state and probably the nation with fines for imperfect recycling. Undoubtedly our garbage fees will be raised to publicize, inspect, and process all the stuff and subsidize its sale at bargain rates to recyclers and farmers.

Please let us know what is in Newsom’s trash can. I wonder about having a reporter walk around City Hall to see how much unsorted green stuff is going into the garbage bin. Do they have sorted containers in all the restrooms? in every office and copyroom? I don’t have room in my house for three trash cans in the kitchen, the bathrooms, and the office. Plus we are getting ants in the green bin because we cannot seal up the organic stuff in plastic

J.. P…

[Gavin’s green bin…]

Ms. P…, per your request: Here’s the inside of Mayor Gavin Newsom’s compost bin as of this morning parked outside his house, around 7:20 A.M. A foot of sludge, a banana peel, a soda can, and flies…

(bolding mine)

marisacat - 1 December 2011

Bronstein hates Gavin. About the only thng to recommend Phil B.

All of them shits of course. All the same. One by one.

I spent a year terrified of seeing a fresh new green bin placed alongside my blue and black bins…. but a neighbor told me unless I request a compost bin they don’t bring you one. (Thank you Jesus)

diane - 1 December 2011

So true, as P. Bronstein lurves, would love to be like, the ‘tiger tattooed,’ Ass,’ Hoover Institute, … dirty drawers, …George Schultz, ..and consort,. San Francisco, Chiefessa of Protocol , .. (Charlotte Maillard Swig [owns a greater part of Oaktown?] [Schultz], …..Belle of the Tejas Cali, $Green$!!!!!!! Funerals ™, … Ball ……)

Siiiiighhhhh, was unsuccessful at pulling up the link, though, I know it exists, …big soooprize,….NO …..

marisacat - 30 November 2011

Oh and immediately after the McDonald’s announcement, Burger King made the same announcement. McDonalds is turning aorund and donating the 10 cents to Ronald McDonald house… and I gather BK has some charity to donate to as well.

A good end run around the damned BofSupes

14. marisacat - 1 December 2011

Nu

LINK

8) … :roll:


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