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1. ms_xeno - 12 March 2012

Chiming in late to agree that Greenwald’s analysis of Kucinich is a crock of shit.

I refuse to feel bad because that some quasi-reformist user got called some poopy names by the people he continues to shill for at the expense of those on the ground who actually give a fuck about more than the Democratic Party staying solvent and/or relevant.

Drop dead, Dennis. You stink. You fucked us in ’04 claiming to speak for the anti-war movement and you fucked us again when you signed off on Obama’s piece of shit health plan. Do us a favor and go straight to hell.

marisacat - 12 March 2012

:lol:

Last I heard he was hedging on whether or not he will move to Washington state and grace them with his elfin Quisling presence.

Oh I agree… little shit ball.

I think he and Marcy Kaptur are prime examples of the party. Prime Cut. USDA prime.

diane - 12 March 2012

his elfin Quisling presence.

ohhhh honey, …. :0) …..

The Hobbit!!!!

diane - 12 March 2012

oh wait, … now I’m confused,……
what about Doc [Ayn] Paul then?

The Hobbit2!!!!

?

marisacat - 12 March 2012

what about Doc [Ayn] Paul then?

Who is that? It’s too cryptic for me…

diane - 12 March 2012

“Doctor”/Federal Representative, Ron Paul, the Ayn Rand obsessor (along with Greenspan), who is about the same size as Dennis, literally and figuratively speaking. Actually, I think they may even share the same vocal timbre.

marisacat - 12 March 2012

I picked up a bit of trivia in a thread the other day… his wif has a tongue stud.

snicker.

ms_xeno - 12 March 2012

If his campaign coincides with my pending next-round of joblessness, I’ll be more than happy to take a little day trip into Vancouver and give his sorry carpetbagging ass a verbal what-for.

He should just get a lobbying job for fucking PETA and spare us more of his inane, pointless posturing. Little shit.

marisacat - 12 March 2012

I don’t think PETA would want him frankly… my guess is he lives for his ”court”…. more fake, weak lefties and an array of non US nationals who have not kept up with what he is…

ms_xeno - 12 March 2012

I’ll skim five donation bucks off my first Unemployment payment if France or Ireland will agree to take him off our hands for a few years. :p

We could start a funding drive on Kickstarter or something…

marisacat - 12 March 2012

I think whatever Eastern bloc [formerly!] he is descended from should take him…. she was an Irish national wasnt she? So… mybe there.

Somewhere he can come out of his fake reformed doctrinaire Catlick closet….

diane - 12 March 2012

you don’t even want to look at Lambert’s Ode to the fake, impacted molar (right there under the sticky noted, days old, Occupy Lecture …. from the Garden of Eden …. )

(yes I know hon, …but he does actually has some good links, and posters on occasion …I’ll take what I can get……. )

ms_xeno - 12 March 2012

Honestly, d, I feel like Blogland is an iceberg in a not-very-pleasant-smelling lukewarm ocean. Every ten minutes another ten inches of Things I Liked To Read By People I Once Trusted melts away and I have to take another step back.

Boingboing, for instance. I really enjoyed following Madman’s links there and caught a bunch of Jardin’s Occupy coverage. Nobody seemed to take issue with me until I plugged Physicians For A National Health Plan and said that Obama’s plan is rotten fish guts. And suddenly my posts don’t stay up anymore. Well, fuck them and their kneejerk pro-Dem bullshit then. Was the only reason they were willing to cover Occupy in the first place is because so much of it avoided fingering Obama for his direct role in our ongoing clusterfuck? Disgusting.

Mostly, the only sites online I genuinely enjoy these days are the ones where mods insist on political discussions staying wayyyy dialed back and confined to very tiny portions of their space. I’m happier not knowing what people’s politics are and generally keeping quiet about what mine are. It just seems to work much better, and I’m spared the disappointment of making even introductory ties to “communities” only to have them ripped up twenty minutes later.

Madman in the Marketplace - 12 March 2012

I’m just down to looking for a pithy well-written sentence or two and/or linkage within a post myself. I think this culture is too far gone and the politics too fucked up for anything to be anything more than momentary entertainment and/or a brief bit of self-fulfilling reinforcement of something I sort of think but barely care about anymore.

ms_xeno - 12 March 2012

I tell myself I don’t care, but I can’t get away from other people’s obsession with this shit, and in the end I always fall off the fucking wagon again. :rolleye: The only away to evade it altogether is to become a damn hermit.

Madman in the Marketplace - 12 March 2012

I go through that sometimes, too. Mostly, I feel like a sucker that I used to believe there was a “debate” allowed or something. I have taken the cable news needle out of my arm, finally, at least most of the time.

diane - 12 March 2012

after the experience at peeder’s pfft (succeeding my posting at the fouled orange citrus (which you were smart enough to avoid)), this is the only place I’ve posted; because, I get too angry when some prick starts finger wagging at my well meant comment.

I would never post at Lambert’s Hamster Cage (I thought that cage thing was a dead giveaway … but then again, I have a feeling my jawb experience (which I won’t expound upon), which I think may be quite similiar to his (as regards the industry in general, certainly not the Gender Experience), has made me far more familiar with his type than some others.

Lastly, if it weren’t for those off the web, whom I can actually catch the scent of (quick enough to ward them off if they’re nasty), I wouldn’t want to remain in this cesspool ….. things are just rotting in front of our eyes …..so very heartbreaking.

marisacat - 12 March 2012

Here, whoever wishes can have a laugh at lambert…:

he posted once (and remember all of his defenses of the Clinton contingent!) that he quit a corporate job in 2006 BECAUSE he thought it was a lock the Dems would go in in 2008 and Lock No 2?

They would put in Universal Health Care.

I am sorry for anyone hoodwinked by the Dems and caught short… but that blew my mind. AND that he still defends and in fact has an entire cadre at his site devoted to luv and defense of the Clinton snake shit pile.

ms_xeno - 12 March 2012

Cadre? I thought all of them were still tearfully clinging to Bill The Putz’es sacred pants leg, regardless of how many times he’s kicked them in the face.

marisacat - 12 March 2012

well iirc, as since he reformatted his coding (a year or more) I don’t go there, it loads badly and very very slowly for me… but there were one or two hold outs. It was pretty heavy on the BillHll defense, across the board. They would form gangs iirc…. and come after people…

I thought John Halle, think that was his name, was about the sanest of the bunch… but almost all the rest could talk themselves into pulling the trigger for most Dems…. their opposition to Slob seemed to be based in their eternal def of Hillary. Not a whole lot more (how could it be?)

ms_xeno - 13 March 2012

Yeah. I can’t take anyone seriously who lauds the shit out of the earlier-edition putz while being all mad at his successor. Bill singlehandedly gave us totally awesome boom-times all by his lonesome, doncha’ know! And it wasn’t Bill’s fault that the internet bubble couldn’t last forever! Bawwww!

You can claim the Burger King in your old neighborhood was nicer than the one in your new neighborhood because the old one was cleaner and had fewer screaming kids. But at the end of the day, it was still Burger King. Same overpriced, tasteless, shitty food produced by the same bunch of assholes. Same principle applies to Democrats.

I’m surprised they didn’t purge Halle. I guess if there’s one token dissenter Lambert can pat himself on the back over how “inclusive” he is, even after he runs all the others off. Little fuckstick.

marisacat - 13 March 2012

well I don’t know, they may well have purged Halle… ;)

marisacat - 13 March 2012

I don’t knwo where this is in the thread, but if no one hears from me for hours and things sit in Moderation,

I am having a lot of computer connectivity problems… and that is why.

Not that I keeled over…

Wish me luck!

marisacat - 13 March 2012

well I have been on for a couple of hours, so maybe it is OK for the moment (12:30 PM)

marisacat - 13 March 2012

Madman sent me this… and with computer problems will jsut post from his email, but it is at Mother Jones, posted on March 9:

House Considers Bill Federalizing Parental Consent Laws for Abortion

—By Kate Sheppard

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) introduced the bill in June 2011. The House Judiciary Committee held a hearing on the measure on Thursday, a signal that it may advance in the near future. The bill requires a minor’s parent or guardian to be notified in writing and a 24-hour waiting period after that notification before the young woman can obtain the abortion.

Doctors or anyone who assists the minor without first informing her parents may be fined up to $100,000 and imprisoned for up to a year for violating this law. Thirty-seven states currently require parental involvement of some type, if a minor seeks an abortion, the law is meant to prevent anyone from traveling to another state to avoid those laws. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio (R) introduced the Senate version of the bill last June as well, declaring that it was an effort to ensure state parental laws are not “undermined and circumvented.” . . . .

2. marisacat - 12 March 2012

I finally noticed the WP clock did not change automatically, for Daylight Saving… sigh.

Fixed now…

At least it is not like one year when I changed the clocks twice.

diane - 12 March 2012

Well honey, It could have been far worse, you could’ve chosen to have a format where the time was stamped on each post and comment. I’ve gotten such a ‘kick’ (particularly on “Legal” ‘sites’), at both: the sometimes two hours off from the purported clock zone; and the neglect as to what Zone the “Time” Stamp relates to; as if the web site’s “time zone,” was the only valid “time zone,” out of 24 of them (speaking of talking “left,” and caged hamsters). I mean shit, why bother then, just leave the frikken time stamp off…and let the Feds sort it out when they come after your ass for bogus bullshit).

diane - 12 March 2012

(sorry, I can’t help myself: I mean, really Lambert, folks aren’t born with the knowledge that the Mighty Corrent Wire is on East[ern] Coast[of UZ] Thyme, … or mehbe it’s jus’ that I’ve had one two many, 24 ouncers?)

diane - 12 March 2012

(whoopsie, sorry about that missing “e” on “Corrent” …I have no clue, how I’ll ever live it down,…. siiiiiiiigh.)

3. diane - 13 March 2012

Are you just being inexplicably disconnected after you log on? That happens to me sometimes, but never that frequently lately.

marisacat - 13 March 2012

it seems o be a mix of things… I think some of it is interface…. and that with Net Zero, at least when I got it following buying this computer in Dec of 2009, they limit you to Internet Explorer..

I had gottn rid of that years ago and had used Firefox (with AOL). So, I think it is a mix of problems…

diane - 13 March 2012

Did you have to buy an exterior modem to connect to the phone jack (due to the computer lacking the phone jack port which used to be standard)? I had to when I had to replace mine, and initially got the blues trying to connect, kept receiving a modem is faulty message, even after replacing what turned out to be a perfectly good modem. Finally I discovered it was a change in the coding required by the phone company in order to connect to my isp. It was one stupid missing digit that hadn’t been previously required, for some strange reason, using my old puter. What a frikken waste of time, and unfortunate for the modem company, as I’m betting a lot of them are returned when they actually work. I’ve been fairly lucky since (knocks on wood), and am using Internet Explorer. I did try to switch to Firefox but had downloading problems, and just haven’t felt like trying to resolve yet another puter issue, especially after having found that you can talk to three or for different techies about an issue and each can give a totally different answer.

marisacat - 13 March 2012

No I told Dell when I ordered this (it was their very basic $400 CPU) I was still on dial-up and they added a jack…. but I am guessing that could be the problem… I have no idea…

There were problems right away trying to use AOL, which I loaded using a new disc AOL sent me… as this very basic Dell came with almost nothing loaded…

I know nothing at all about computers and my neighbor, if possible, knows less than I do… so I reached out to Madman to call me, back then. He suggested trying NetZero… and that went fine. A lot better than the interface with AOL, which simply took 10 and 11 minutes to down load pages…

The problems are def increasing… it used to be just occasionally…

sigh. We’ll see….

diane - 13 March 2012

It does sound like maybe they installed a shoddy jack port that’s wearing out if you’re not able to connect at all sometimes, or if it’s continually disconnecting even when your landline is working.

If you have an extra isp port, you might wan’t to try using an exterior modem that will connect to the phone jack port, after insuring that you can return it if it doesn’t resolve the problem. I’m using a USRobotics modem and their customer support seems pretty responsive.

diane - 14 March 2012

Hmmmm, having followed a link from a Susie Madrak post, I see someone else is having NetZero problems:

I can’t get the video to load, dude. That’s how much my NetZero connection sucks. Can you believe I’m paying for this? I can either surf the web and read… or I can watch videos. I cannot do both. And if I want something better, I have to upgrade and pay them even more money just to get halfway back to where I was before.

I know nothing about NetZero, and have decided to forfeit on watching videos, so I can’t speak to current video usage (my prior usage, was a very slow affair on ‘dial-up,’ it took a while to view one , but I was able to view one, and have other ‘windows’ open to read in the meantime). I use an ISP (which I won’t mention publically cuz it’s a small world and I’ve become “paranoid” …snirk …. ), which is not Verizon, AT&T, ComCast, etc., and am not having those connectivity problems, nor have I had tons of advertisements courtesy of my ISP, or spam problems (though I never use email to repeatedly correspond back and forth, unless it’s related to a jawb …and even then, I try my best, to push it to hearing a human voice).

marisacat - 14 March 2012

lately … and I don’t remember if it pre dates this computer, I don’t bother with vids… I USED to watch news videos at the bigger news sites, short things at MSNBC or CNN, if soemthing caught my eye.

The videos at Real News always work for me… maybe a stop or two, but quickly, for buffering.

At times in the past when I had transitory problems… I thought it might be NetZero…. but this time … not sure at all.

Thanks for that tho… interesting to know.

diane - 14 March 2012

you’re welcome honey, after I saw that I was worried about having suggested it might be the phone jack port, the Robotics modem put me back by about $45, …so fucking weary of the deliberate, unnecessary, $obsolescence$, ….WebPoint ZeroWhatever , …My Ass.

diane - 14 March 2012

the lovely irony about dial-up, from what I’ve hear from techies across the board, is that: it is the most secure means of connecting to the ‘web;’ just like non plug in (outside of the phone jack port) old fashioned land lines, are far more superior than mobile phones, ….privacy wise, connection wise, and sound wise.

marisacat - 14 March 2012

Everyone who calls me on a cell, obviously most frequently my neighbor who has a brand new iPhone, the call just dies at some point.

diane - 14 March 2012

and then, when that ‘signal’ doesn’t die, one really has to wonder about the radiation going on, there are enough non UZ studies that have been done, ..and, EMF sensitive US citizens chiming in (Smart Meters , etc.), that pretty soon it will have to be acknowledged that just because one can’t see the radiation, doesn’t mean that it is not a KILLER.

marisacat - 14 March 2012

Well I think PG&E, whose name is mud anyway…. circumventd opposition ot the Smart Meters, with the costs associated with refusal.

A couple of weeks ago one of my neighbors got a cert letter from PGE, he had been refusing. He was surprised I had not opposed it. Pretty far down my list.

Now if we could get rid of PG%E and have a co-op that might mean something…

diane - 14 March 2012

(which is very likely why Bill the Dawg’s FCC Act of 1996, quietly prevented citizens and local governments from being able to do anything about it.)

diane - 14 March 2012

New Fees for Removal of Smart Meters Targeted

A newly-approved state policy allows PG&E customers to refuse installation of Smart Meters, suspected of being a health hazard, on their properties or have them removed, if already installed, but to do that, an initial fee of $75 and a monthly charge of $10 would have to be paid, fees that anti-Smart Meter organizations are already working to have eliminated.

Statewide organized groups are already working to overturn a new state policy allowing PG&E customers to refuse to allow Smart Meters installed on their properties or, if already installed, to have them removed because most customers would have to pay a one-time fee of $75 plus a monthly charge of $10 to take advantage of the new policy.

They want the right to refuse both the installation of the Smart Meters, which many believe pose a severe health risk to people, or removal of them for free.

Meantime, the EMF (electromagnetic field) Safety Network organization is suggesting that customers deduct the fees from their PG&E bills in protest, if they wind up paying them. Customers who can qualify for a state low income program may be eligible to either refuse or have the Smart Meters removed for an initial fee of $10 and a monthly charge of $5.

EMF Safety Network, Stop Smart Meters and TURN (The Utility Reform Network) are three major organizations pushing for elimination of the fees. TURN is urging the public to sign a petition to urge the state Public Utilities Commission, which approved the new Smart Meters policy and fees on February 1, to revoke the fees.

The petition says in part: “I support TURN’s demands for an affordable opt-out, either allowing customers to read their own meters or some other method that gives customers a real choice. Customers have already been charged close to $5 billion for these unwanted and untrustworthy meters.”

The Stop Smart Meters group says that Smart Meters can “cause cancer, damage your DNA, harm wildlife, catch fire, and disable your shock prevention devices.” (Why Stop Smart Meters?)

The question of Smart Meters in California is still up in the air, despite the Public Utilities Commission action. So the protests about the fees could have an impact on whether the fees remain, if not on the future of Smart meters in the state. A Commission press release said: “The costs approved today are interim to allow residential customers to begin selecting the opt-out option immediately. The costs are subject to adjustment upon conclusion of a second phase of this proceeding where issues concerning the actual costs associated with offering an analog opt-out option will be addressed.” No date for conclusion of the second phase and presumably another Commission hearing on the matter was mentioned. But the EMF Safety Network said the second phase should be completed by sometime in May.

The San Francisco Chronicle interpreted the Commission’s action this way: “The commission will keep track of the opt-out program’s exact costs and may adjust the customer fees in the future as a result. The commission also plans to discuss whether entire communities can choose to opt out.”

Of course, those three major citizen organizations as well as numerous others still are demanding that Smart Meters be eliminated entirely from use by the public in California, and the new opt-out policy adopted by the Public Utilities Commission on February 1 could represent a significant step in that direction. But a major hurdle to getting rid of Smart Meters is the fact that the Commission itself approved their use by PG&E, which the Chronicle reported has installed nearly nine million of them with another 900,000 planned by the end of 2012. PG&E began installing them in 2006, the Chronicle said.

For more information, the EMF Safety Network can be accessed at EMF Safety Network, Stop Smart Meters and TURN. The EMF Safety Network and Stop Smart Meters in particular have valuable information on how to deal with Smart Meters and how to cope with the new state policy as far as either refusing to allow them to be installed or having them removed.

I received one of those certified letters too. I was home when the temp installer (Stimulus!!!! Funded?) from Wellington (a highly secretive Pittsburgh PA based company, with tons of prison contracts, etc.), came by to install, so I said no, and he was sweet enough to listen, now I’m being asked to pay a $75 dollar fee, despite no work necessary to reinstall …. I’ll wait till May, to respond.

From the EMF Safety Network, referenced above:

Shady smart meter cop-out

Another great video from Jerry Day, who offers his current advice on tackling utility smart meter problems. His advice- continue to refuse the meters, refuse the fee opt outs and keep detailed records of your health since installation. He encourages people to enforce the truth and stand up for our rights to safety in an environment of criminality.

marisacat - 14 March 2012

well it was pretty far down my list. Soo much outside my front door is problematical, as it is…

My nieghbor must have held out a while… mine was installed in 2010 – summertime I think…

diane - 14 March 2012

There’s a group in a disabled/elderly housing complex in Santa Cruz, where quite a few became ill after installation (it’s a huge problem in complexes where there’s not only one, but a collection of meters (I’m sitting about 10 feet away, from four of them, in the apt. complex where I live) who are demanding all of them be removed.

4. BooHooHooMan - 13 March 2012

Welp, ya never can say Catholics don’t pay their bills.

Enjoy! :lol:
A wide selection of choice quotes available!
Beginning with the lede

Philadelphia Archdiocese’s ex-CFO arrested in theft of $900,000

The former chief financial officer for the Archdiocese of Philadelphia has been arrested on charges of stealing more than $900,000 from the church over six years.

Anita Guzzardi, 43, of Barrington, Camden County, turned herself in to city police on Tuesday morning. She faces charges of theft, forgery and unlawful use of a computer.

Guzzardi – a former account clerk who rose to become the archdiocese’s top financial officer – used church checks to pay off her personal credit cards.

The embezzlement wasn’t detected in church audits. Instead, an investigator from American Express discovered a pattern of suspicious activity and called the Philadelphia District Attorney’s Office last July.

Guzzardi was escorted from the church offices last July 14. The church hired lawyers and an accounting firm to do a forensic investigation, and they turned their findings over to the District Attorney’s office in August.

Starting in 2005, investigators discovered, Guzzardi had sent 184 church checks to pay her American Express bills. They also found 146 checks written on the Archdiocesan account to pay off her Chase card.

Keep America;s Banks Strong!
Build More Catholic Churches!
Put Money to Work! Lift up American Industry!
Or just~ LIFT!

Much of the money went to cover cash advances at the Borgata and other casinos. Guzzardi also used church funds to pay for vacations and merchandise.

No! Gambiling?! And the Catlick Church!?? :shock: NOH! :lol:

“People are angry about this loss, and they’re right. So am I,” said Archbishop Charles Chaput said in his weekly column last month. “There’s no excuse for it.”

No worries tho! Hakuna Metata, you see.
It’s a Problem-freee….. KLEPTOCRACYyy –
{wait for it}

The checks were written on the archdiocese’s general operating fund. The archdiocese said in it’s statement today that the theft didn’t affect the Catholic Charities appeal, the church’s capital campaign or the decisions to close some Catholic schools.

Most of the loss is covered by insurance, the archdiocese said.

Context: The Philly Diocese, (pronounced DIE et CEASE).
is where, 2 months ago, on the eve of massive sex abuse and cover up trial reaching to the highest levels among the clerics with a fondness for dickhead shaped hats, the CARDINAL, Bevilaqua , whom the Di.A., co~inki~dinkily, . already had a cover-up memo signed by the Cardinal and had , comma, a video deposition with the Cardinal regarding the difficult situation involved.

ANYWAYS, Cardinal Glans Penis Mop-Top , up and CROAKS over Super Bowl weekend and is buried in the Basilica Basement quicker’n’ya can say a coupla Glory Be’s for rape, oh and maybe an Our Father for murder.Nooo n/n/n.not not NO AUTOPSY. It was all very quick, very hush hush, no word even on whether they had a decent buffet at the near private funeral. Last time a Cardinal died there they flew in all the Big Voo-Doo doers from around the world, had like 10,000 in attendance, big media coverage, AND, it can reasonably inferred, some decent catering fer Chissakes. Hell, back in the day, maybe even brought up comp’d from the A.C. casinos 50 miles away.

Sounds like the whole thing has gone to shit, frankly.
Gone are the days when Servants of the Lord can quietly go about their business , backing up a concrete truck thru the alley, popping a basement door or window, and, a Papists do in such circumstance, pour a couple hundred ton slab of quick-set on key witnesses buried below.

Really a problem ….as the D.A. now wants to exhume
the ole bod of Cardinal Skip-the-Trial. This is precisely the time I wish WordPress had a jackhammer emoticon to go with the ole :wink:

marisacat - 13 March 2012

have you seen the latest from Charles Pierce? (Who Madman tells me one of those unlapsed Catholics…) … – Madman sent me this

NYT

Turning the tables on an advocacy group that has long supported victims of pedophile priests, lawyers for the Roman Catholic Church and priests accused of sexual abuse in two Missouri cases have gone to court to compel the group to disclose more than two decades of e-mails that could include correspondence with victims, lawyers, whistle-blowers, witnesses, the police, prosecutors and journalists. ….

Peirce linked to that in this post:

Pierce in Esquire

And that would be SNAP… from CP… and of course Donohue DOES indeed reflect the fucking church.

[L]awyers for the church and priests say they cannot comment because of a judge’s order. But William Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, a church advocacy group in New York, said targeting the network was justified because “SNAP is a menace to the Catholic Church.” Mr. Donohue said leading bishops he knew had resolved to fight back more aggressively against the group:

“The bishops have come together collectively. I can’t give you the names, but there’s a growing consensus on the part of the bishops that they had better toughen up and go out and buy some good lawyers to get tough. We don’t need altar boys.”

This clown speaks for nobody in the Church. [oh puhleese - M] The only reason reporters and cable bookers have him on speed-dial is that he’s a sweaty grotesque who’s guaranteed to say something inflammatory and/or bigoted. . . . .

BooHooHooMan - 14 March 2012

I had not seen the NYT piece till now.
What a mess, Good . Fucking. Luck . to the CC trying to turn the table on victims and SNAP, very good, strong, legit, and not going away. Throw in the financial crimes and.challenges to their revenue at schools hospitals etc. BIG TROUBLE.
Hell, throw in a couple novenas, try the deluxe Rosary, you know, before it get repo’d when the gift shops go into receivership. LOL

and on Pierce… In Esquire?
( Hmmm…Oh How I’ve waited for this moment! Slipping into turtleneck, tweed jacket, setting down martinis next to HiFi, glancing at Danish coffee table to see if issue is among those left casually on display for the last 35 years Nope!, No such luck! LOL. Will follow hyperlink tho! }

Irresistible cultural riff on men and their robes and rituals, sorry. Esq has had good pieces over the years, but to me, which I’ve said to co-workers over the years, a little heavy at times on the scent of British Sterling. LOL. My feelings on that became known at work over some discussions shortly before my daughter was born, ,and some good friends, as a gag that even I too could find use and enjoyment of the mag: they gave me a copy of this Esquire with John Goodman on the cover.. which I had framed, have kept to this day. and has been incorporated into my basic philosophy towards life.

Anyways, Pierce …on Donahue , oh they both reflect the CC; Donahue putting heretics and all purported heathens to the sword, Pierce with the Nothing to see here, move along. .

Methinks the last of the Great Crusades are underway, Bona Furtuna and all that (the key tenet of the faith), them scraping and raping the serfs and whatever OTHER chattel is on hand and pressing them into service, yet ever more certainly headed for rout : as back in the day they only had to deal with the Muslims on a unified front. :wink:

marisacat - 14 March 2012

yes I wonder if taking on SNAP is the smartest idea since the Inquisition. Not sure it is… I mean, with Slob they have a weird older altar boy (which I guess they don’t need!) but SNAP….

Sometimes I think Slob has pulled a Blair. IMO he became a Catlick BEFORE leaving office.

I will never understand why grown men and women defer to the Church on so many critical matters. It’s an illness.

5. marisacat - 13 March 2012

So obvious…

[I]t’s no stretch to suggest that GI suicides, domestic violence by returning soldiers and their self-harm by narcotics are a depoliticized form of protest against the same despair that was felt by General Westmoreland’s cannon fodder at Hue or World War One poilu at the Chemin des Dames allied massacre when they refused to fight any more.

The Afghani war is over. Yet the President, his cheerfully on-message advisors, and most of the stenographic media refuse to call it a night when the situation on the ground, with its secret night raids and fuckedup soldiers, can only get much worse. Mitt Romney, who never served and has five military-age sons likewise, wants to stay there presumably forever and fight it out. Rick Santorum wants to hang in until “mission accomplished” whatever that is. Yet even Newt Gingrich, from the militarized state of Georgia, says that “we have lost” in Afghanistan and “the mission is not doable”.

What are we waiting for, an engraved invitation to leave? It will never come as long as Karzai and his crooks-in-government and our U.S. contracting corporations can keep milking the American taxpayer.

A Rand Corporation study estimated that one in five veterans of fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan suffers from major depression or PTSD. After years of struggle, at last the public sees PTSD as a serious illness that must be attended to. How long will it take us to recognize that what’s happening in Afghanistan is mutiny by another name?

Cpunch

ms_xeno - 13 March 2012

Obama regurgitated all that Reagan/Gump bullshit during his campaign about how the REAL enemy in ‘Nam was the protest on U.S. soil. Pot smoking and free love and yadda yadda yadda LOST THE WAR.

He still believes that shit, as do a whole lot of other bloodthirsty schmuck-ass “good liberals.” Too bad the anti-war movement already smothered itself so Hopey could get into office in the first place. Harder to finger them this time out, though you can count on the smug piece of shit to try it anyway, I bet.

marisacat - 13 March 2012

oh anyone who foolishly thought he opposed any war, was not paying attention. It all hung on a single speech, that he then hid for years. That speech merely pandered to his fake liberal, non Bush voting, black jewish and white constituency…

That was it. Nothing more…

diane - 13 March 2012

Unfortunately, it seems that the upper echelons of the mental health/pharma industry proclaimed, long ago, that life experiences had nothing to do with mental health problems (JUST BUCK UP!), that that they were a permanent defect, solely chemical imbalances which needed to be medicated for life (which I don’t doubt may be the case sometimes, but not most times), despite the fact that upper echelon psyche docs knew exactly what stress to induce to emotionally break detainees at Guantanamo, without the use of chemicals.

And, speaking of Stress, I stumbled on this interesting: PayPal vice-president killed by commuter train had been suffering from depression ….. well, at least they haven’t named him as a track trespasser, which is what happens to the rest of the, at least once a month, suicides in the Sly Con Valley vicinity. I probably shouldn’t say it, but, I find the picture of his wife interesting, it hit me as pretty over reaching for “the stars” ….the Techie “$$$$Galaxy$$$$$$.”

marisacat - 13 March 2012

There was a body on the Cal Train tracks again just the other day… I did not follow up on it…

They tend to be very quiet about the suicides…

diane - 13 March 2012

yeah, I heard the same and was thinking of that when I read the article; because, as I recollect, they didn’t proclaim the usual trespasser thing that they do when someone is pretty much powerless/moneyless.

May he rest in peace, this place is a mother fucker, …truly testing. I keep hoping to read some good news to cling to, I don’t believe that most human beings are inherently evil, but we may as well be in the midst of Nazi Germany, exponentialized, at its ‘heyday.’

marisacat - 13 March 2012

well they may talk about “trespasser” down there, but we don’t hear that up here… nor for suicides onto free ways, BART, etc.

Although I think things should be reported, I can def see a desire not to start a full-on cult of track suicide… more than has been happening…

diane - 13 March 2012

welp, if the assholes have a desire to cut the suicides, they may just want to address the people, instead of having $10-$100K a plate meetups with the fuckers who are perpetuating the suicides, instead they live and love their methane filled, well armored bubbles.

marisacat - 13 March 2012

I don’t see any solutions coming. Life is destabilising daily.

And the media chats about how it is all so much better. Every day in every way!

diane - 13 March 2012

plus the fact that I will never buy that suicides become fads, without some deep underlying distress going on; …. which the “fad” word, …. deliberately serves to totally obfuscate, …it’s not at all like buying the same pair of slacks the homecoming queen owns because ya want to be like her ……..

marisacat - 13 March 2012

I did not say fad.

But anything that is celebrated, even back door, by being blared as headline, permeates the consciousness. I can SEE a reason to not do that. And I said things should be reported…

I am WELL AWARE that despair and stress are behind suicides. And frankly few suicides are reported openly. On tracks or elsewhere.

diane - 13 March 2012

I’ve heard it equated to a fad, I wasn’t implying you did.

While I do get your point, the concurrent blaring headlines of everything is OKAY, are equally as DEADLY to those who get to claw at themselves for not being OKAY, as suicide headlines.

6. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 March 2012

Cheney says Canada ‘too dangerous’ for visit

Former Vice President Dick Cheney has foregone a trip to Canada on the grounds that it’s “too dangerous,” according to a report in Canada’s National Post.

Cheney was set to appear at an event in Toronto on April 24, but canceled on grounds that the risk of trouble from protesters was too great.

Cheney’s last Canadian appearance in September of 2011 erupted in violence as protesters swarmed the entrance of the private Vancouver club where the former Bush administration official and Iraq War architect was speaking. The protesters rained down verbal abuse on attendees and, in once instance, choked a security guard.

Vice President Cheney was trapped inside the venue for more than seven hours as police in riot gear attempted to disperse the crowd and quell to the resulting melee.

Ryan Riggins, a spokesperson for the promotions company who booked Cheney for the April 24 appearance said, “He felt that in Canada the risk of violent protest was simply too high.”

marisacat - 13 March 2012

Vice President Cheney was trapped inside the venue for more than seven hours as police in riot gear attempted to disperse the crowd and quell to the resulting melee.

Too short an impriisonment.

Madman in the Marketplace - 13 March 2012

no doubt

marisacat - 13 March 2012

really… they should keep him.

BooHooHooMan - 14 March 2012

God Damn Canadians,, goin after Cheney like that. :lol: :wink:

{{{LOVE IT And big hugs to Catnip wherever she may be!}}}

You know, I HEAR they ALSO have salmon and trout now that swim down into our streams and just LEAP RIGHT UP and BITE – WHOA! – revolving door U.S. War Criminals and Oilmen fishing up in the Northwest. :shock: I certainly hope so anyways.

I would like to take comfort that Cheney lives in prison of his own mind the rest of his paranoid sociopathic War Criminal days, Same for Rumsfeld too. but that is not enough. Oh I think they must, always dependent on security so, security beyond the norm for men of similar means, BUT it is still not enough. I Love that they ARE and will be dogged the rest of their days. The dynamic is especially rich with them affirming their own torment..

I imagine, would like to think so anyways, that they will see plotters and villains among their own kin as biotoxins, their bodies’ own , do their work while organ failure and sepsis sets in. A known known this sequelae to their very own bio-terror, an action which they and their organs not only initiated but must futilely defend against death in asymmetrical undeclared war, they and their organs own, one that they are slam-dunk destined to LOSE

Love for History and Schadenfreude’s sake to have a death scene tape on that there ……

marisacat - 14 March 2012

You know, I HEAR they ALSO have salmon and trout now that swim down into our streams and just LEAP RIGHT UP and BITE

Whoa! In addition to killer suicide gangs of Canadian Geese that send our airliners into the Hudson??

Commence bombing Ottawa!. Then Montreal… then Vancouvr.

BooHooHooMan - 14 March 2012

Well `~ the medical records ~ , the necropsies on the fish, the autopsies on the oilmen, the god awful Sucide / Penectomies Pescatore involved are all classified in this fish tale.
Hardly a reason to prevent war with Canada tho.
Even if the evidence isn’t hard, , aw hell, say it’s soft evide~ well, whatever, we should do it prophylactically, You know, whether the Stamp Collectors of America get behind it or not.
A pre-emptive measure. I’ve given a lot of thought to this. LOL

marisacat - 14 March 2012

Proactive prophylactic?

LOL
:lol: :roll: :evil:

marisacat - 14 March 2012

Hey hey!

Afghan national breaches runway used by Panetta

An individual rammed a stolen vehicle through a fence and onto the runway of a sprawling U.S. base in southern Afghanistan on Wednesday during a visit by Secretary of Defense Leon E. Panetta, according to a Western official familiar with the incident and a military statement.

Panetta was unharmed.

Read more at:
Wash Po

Or http://www.washingtonpost.com.

Works for me… and you know it freaks them out.

BooHooHooMan - 14 March 2012

and you know it freaks them out.

It should. A quick hit aside, this is Probing Attack 101, more like 10,001 now. One can only imagine the kind of intelligence tehenemy had to initiate it, what they developed in real time and will receive through back channels as to base defenses, communications, responses etc.

But you know, you go to war with the have, not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time ~ Donald Rumsfeld.2004

So yeh, enter stage right: the US Military, Global Heroin Dealers, Oilmen, War Profiteers, Mercenaries, Highwaymen, Fortune Seekers Contractors Wholesalers and Retailers of every sort known to mankind rounding out the “Coalition” Band of Brothers.
Surely a Loyal Lot.

I think we should send Hillary and Biden in now. LOL
Oh, and Precious after Biden gives him directions over the phone.
Either that or withdraw everybody so each and every photo op can be completed by November.

marisacat - 14 March 2012

Biden with as many deferments as Cheney. Hillary ugh where to start. Stone cold bitch.

Be interesting to see if NO ONE goes in for a while.

BooHooHooMan - 14 March 2012

Yep yep yep. And I was thinking the same on the latter too.

marisacat - 14 March 2012

Slob is lucky that Mittens is so tone deaf and uncomfortable, so much of the time.

I go back and forth, as everything seems very tentative. Ready to blow. Makes me nervous.

BooHooHooMan - 14 March 2012

Ooops, obviously my bad on quoting Rummy, correction::
…you go to war with the Army you have,..

marisacat - 14 March 2012

omigod… it just cannot get sadder, but it does.

http://www.democracynow.org

Afghan Massacre: After Losing Homes in NATO Attacks, Victims Moved Near U.S. Base Hoping for Safety

As President Obama vowed to “spare no effort” to fully investigate the Afghan massacre, we go to Kabul to speak with Graham Bowley of the New York Times for the latest.

Bowley has reported on the surviving relatives of victims of the Afghan massacre, including Abdul Samad, who lost his wife, four daughters, four sons and two other relatives.

We also speak with Nancy Youssef, McClatchy’s top Pentagon correspondent, who compares the massacre in Afghanistan with the U.S. killings of 24 Iraqi civilians in the Iraqi town of Haditha in 2005. Watch/Listen/Read

Cannot wait for the next excuse trotted out. Earlier today the report came thru of the forbidden alcohol found near his sleeping quarters…

7. marisacat - 13 March 2012

What a scream! Ricky wins ‘Bama and Mississippi

La lutte continue!!

8. marisacat - 13 March 2012

whew! Mittens wins American Samoa!

Clearing hurdles, day by day!!

marisacat - 13 March 2012

Oh! Mittens came in third, both Alabama and MS.

And Reuters/Ipsos has rushed in with a poll that shows Slob doing a LOT better (50% approval!) than the ABC/WashPost poll of a couple of days ago (taken just before news of the killings in Af-Pak)

Ping pong, the balls go back and forth… and it will only get worse…
:lol:
:evil:

BooHooHooMan - 14 March 2012

Yes, chuckles all around, I heard a squib that Santo is gaining among women. Haven’t poked around about it , I assume it was among GOP. I can’t imagine Santorhea getting past independents.

MJS at SMBIVA had a piece up , as did IOZ with different takes on Obby’s chances for reselection. MJS holding that Obby is going to get wedged back in, IOZ seeing gas prices as a vulnerability with thuhMrkan peepuhl, taking particular delight in the possibility of Barry and the Not Barack’s Fault Whiners getting run out over something that actually isn’t their fault. . Points well made, Resolved with all civility and agreement in signature Fuck ‘em All POV by MJS here.

marisacat - 14 March 2012

I go back and forth.

One thing I do think is being done, a conscious suppression in the news of anti-Obama sentiment. Everybody trying to create inevitability. And I just cringe when the older liberals call in to bitch and moan how “everyone criticises him”. They clearly haven’t read anything other than dumbfuck fiction in 30 years…

To say nothing of his black male defenders. Geesh.

It may not work, pretending everything is fine (like Afghanistan?, LOL)… and everything feels so very unstable…

9. marisacat - 14 March 2012

omigod… it just cannot get sadder, but it does.

http://www.democracynow.org

Afghan Massacre: After Losing Homes in NATO Attacks, Victims Moved Near U.S. Base Hoping for Safety

As President Obama vowed to “spare no effort” to fully investigate the Afghan massacre, we go to Kabul to speak with Graham Bowley of the New York Times for the latest.

Bowley has reported on the surviving relatives of victims of the Afghan massacre, including Abdul Samad, who lost his wife, four daughters, four sons and two other relatives.

We also speak with Nancy Youssef, McClatchy’s top Pentagon correspondent, who compares the massacre in Afghanistan with the U.S. killings of 24 Iraqi civilians in the Iraqi town of Haditha in 2005. Watch/Listen/Read

Cannot wait for the next excuse trotted out. Earlier today the report came thru of the forbidden alcohol found near his sleeping quarters…

diane - 14 March 2012

….

….

AMY GOODMAN: I wanted to bring that issue up of the lone soldier, Graham Bowley, in Kabul. Many Afghans are saying, and people in the area are saying, they saw other soldiers, questioning whether in fact this was just one lone soldier. What have you heard along these lines, Graham?

GRAHAM BOWLEY: Yeah, talking to people down there, you know, we spoke to 30, 40, 50 people in these villages. And neighbors who kind of rushed to the scene and saw the burning bodies, people who kind of survived the attack, they saw—they swear they saw more than one soldier. And there’s this great sort of divide between what the coalition, the American-led coalition, is saying, that it was just one soldier, just one soldier, and what the people down there are saying. And the Americans’ position is sort of increasing the anger. But one explanation, we think, might be that soldiers and helicopters were sent out after the attack, after he had given himself up… ….

….

I wish she had interviewed the journalist(s) on the scene from Reuters, who, at least, repeatedly included that witnesses saw more than one Lone Wolfer; and that a witness(es) stated that it would’ve taken a super human to go on a killing rage in two towns and yet have the time to fastidiously incinerate the victims.

And even if it were ‘rescuers’ that those witnesses actually saw, then why this:

“They (Americans) poured chemicals over their dead bodies and burned them,” Samad told Reuters at the scene. ….

diane - 14 March 2012

(I took screen piccies of that Reuters ‘page’ for posterity, …. as the last two Trust.org/Reuters links to the witnesses remarks, which I referred to previously, are no longer linkable.

And fools snicker when people state that it’s a HUGE mistake to do away with Hard Copies, no reason why someone can’t find a way to continually recycle paper products, or some similiar process, …and it could put thousands ‘back to work.’)

10. marisacat - 14 March 2012

New

LINK

…………………….. 8O:lol:


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