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What is .. 15 June 2012

Posted by marisacat in 2012 Re Election, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Occupy Wall Street, Total fucking lunatics.
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From a Guardian gallery of illustrations for The Bloody Chamber

What is left to say?

Maybe it can be stopped but the way things are going, what they don’t get under Clinton (War in Iraq and Afghanistan leading to ever widening war) they get under Bush, what they don’t get under Bush, they get under “the nice black man”, what Slob doesn’t manage to give them (or did not have enough time!) they get under Romney.

Democracy NOW, and I just happened to fall into the show in the middle of the night…

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: We turn now to a controversial trade pact between the United States and eight Pacific nations that until now has remained largely secret. It’s called the Trans-Pacific Partnership, or TPP. A chapter from the draft agreement leaked Wednesday outlines how it would allow foreign corporations operating in the United States to appeal key regulations to an international tribunal. The body would have the power to override U.S. law and issue penalties for failure to comply with its rulings.

The agreement is being negotiated by the U.S. trade representative, Ron Kirk, appointed by President Obama. But the newly revealed terms contradict promises Obama made while running for president in 2008. One campaign document read in part, quote, “We will not negotiate bilateral trade agreements that stop the government from protecting the environment, food safety, or the health of its citizens; [or] give greater rights to foreign investors than to U.S. investors.”

AMY GOODMAN: Earlier leaks from the draft Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement exposed how it included rules that could increase the cost of medication and make participating countries adopt restrictive copyright measures.

No one from the U.S. trade representative’s office was able to join us, but in a statement to Democracy Now!, they said, quote, “Nothing in our TPP investment proposal could impair our government’s ability to pursue legitimate, non-discriminatory public interest regulation.”

For more, we’re joined by Lori Wallach, director of the fair trade group Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch. The leaked documents were posted on her organization’s website early Wednesday morning.

Lori, welcome to Democracy Now! Explain what the documents show and what this agreement is about.

LORI WALLACH:Well, it’s been branded as a trade agreement, but really it is enforceable corporate global governance. The agreement requires that every signatory country conform all of its laws, regulations and administrative procedures to what are 26 chapters of very comprehensive rules, only two of which have anything to do with trade.

The other 24 chapters set a whole array of corporate new privileges and rights and handcuff governments, limit regulation. So the chapter that leaked—and it’s actually on the website of Citizens Trade Campaign, it’s a national coalition for fair trade—that chapter is the chapter that sets up new rights and privileges for foreign investors, including their right to privately enforce this public treaty by suing our government, raiding our Treasury, over costs of complying with the same policies that all U.S. companies have to comply with. It’s really outrageous.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Well, Lori, there’s been a quite a bit of complaint, even in Congress, about the secretive nature of these continuing negotiations. About 600 or so corporate advisers have access to information that even members of Congress don’t? Could you talk about how that has come about?

LORI WALLACH: Well, this is how you get a text and in a potential agreement that is this outrageous. I mean, this isn’t just a bad trade agreement, this is a one-percenter power tool that could rip up our basic needs and rights. How that happens is the negotiations have been done in total secrecy. So, for two-and-a-half years, until this leak emerged, people have suspected what’s going on, because, as you said, under U.S. law there are 600 official advisers, they have security clearance to see the text, they advise the U.S. position. Meanwhile, the senator, Ron Wyden, who is the chairman of the trade committee in the Senate, the committee with jurisdiction over the TPP, has been denied access to the text, as has his staff, who has security clearance, to a point where this man who has supported agreements like this in the past has filed legislation demanding he have the right to see the agreement that he’s supposed to be having oversight with. He’s on the Intelligence Committee, and he has security clearance, so he can see our nuclear secrets. He just can’t see this corporate bill of rights that is trying to be slipped into effect in the name of being a trade agreement. It’s a very elegant Trojan horse strategy. You brand it one thing, and then you put an agenda that could not survive sunshine into this agreement.

We have been able also to get some of the texts on patents, expanding patents for Big Pharma, jacking up medicine prices. And we have analysis on our website, tradewatch.org, as well as information about how to get involved, because these agreements are a little bit like Dracula. You drag them in the sunshine, and they do not fare well. But all of us, and also across all of the countries involved, there are citizen movements that are basically saying, “This is not in our name. We don’t need global enforceable corporate rights. We need more democracy. We need more accountability.”

AMY GOODMAN: Lori Wallach—

LORI WALLACH: And this agreement is the antithesis.

AMY GOODMAN: I want to read part of the comment we got from the U.S. trade representative’s office when we invited them on today’s show. They wrote, quote, “The Obama Administration has infused unprecedented transparency into the TPP negotiations. We have worked with Members of Congress … [and] invited stakeholders to every round of negotiations where they have given presentations and met with individual negotiating teams. … We are always looking for ways to enhance provisions on transparency and public participation.” Lori Wallach, your comment?

LORI WALLACH: Well, to start with, the idea of transparency of the current negotiators is a one-way mirror. We can basically talk to them and do presentations. But as this leak shows, nothing that the public interest organizations—and it’s a huge array of organizations, from faith groups to consumer groups, environmental, labor—nothing that we have said is now reflected in the U.S. position in this negotiation, which I’m sad to say is the most extreme. I mean, the U.S. is even opposing proposals in this agreement to try and make sure countries have the ability to use financial regulation to ensure financial stability. The U.S. positions don’t reflect what we’ve been saying, but we can talk at them.

But just to put this in perspective, in the last negotiation of a big regional agreement—that was the Free Trade Area of the Americas in the 1990s, 34 countries, very complicated agreement—two years into the negotiation, the entire draft text was published officially by the governments. Here we are, three years into this negotiation with eight countries, and they will not publish a sentence. In fact, it finally leaked that they had signed a special agreement not to release any draft text for four years after negotiations are done—a secrecy agreement on top of the normal secrecy. And when asked, Ron Kirk, the trade representative, why—in the past, the U.S. has sent out draft texts. The WTO, hardly a paradigm of transparency, publishes draft texts. “What the—what’s going on?” he was asked. He said, “Well, in the past, for instance, the Free Trade Area of the Americas, when the text was revealed, we couldn’t finish it.” Now, what sort of indictment is that of what they are doing behind closed doors, that merely allowing the public who will live with the results and Congress to know what’s up is going to somehow derail the plans to lock us in? Because what’s really important to understand about these agreements, it’s not about trade, and it’s like cement. [hmm we really ARE mired in cement! Mcat]Once the cement dries in these agreements, you can’t change the rules, unless all the agreement—all the other countries agree to amend the agreement.

So what we’re talking about with this leaked chapter is literally a parallel system of justice. People have domestic laws and courts, trying to defend our rights and get our needs met. Corporations would have a parallel system of private attorneys, three of them, no conflict-of-interest laws. The U.S. and the other countries would submit themselves to the jurisdiction of this corporate kangaroo court, and these three random attorneys would have the right to order the U.S. government to pay unlimited amounts of our tax dollars to corporations and investors who, A, claim regulatory costs need to be refunded, or, B, are saying they’re not being treated well enough, regardless if the policies they dislike are the exact same ones that apply to all of us. Even under NAFTA’s system, which has some of this, $350 million have already been paid out to corporations by governments, over toxics bans, zoning laws, timber rules. This is a sneaky outrage. And if people actually put a spotlight on it, we can stop it.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: So, Lori, I wanted to ask you—you mentioned the eight nations that are involved in the negotiations. Which nations are they? And also, the issue of the way this is being negotiated, the number could expand dramatically in the future. Can you talk about that?

LORI WALLACH:Well, the reason why it is so incredibly important that this agreement be exposed is this could well be the last agreement that’s negotiated. So, many of your listeners and viewers have been involved in the sneaky way trade agreements have been used by corporations to limit regulation and to foster a race to the bottom since NAFTA. And each of these agreements has gotten bolder, more expansive in its limits on government regulation and in its granting of corporate powers. This one could be the end, because what they intend to do is leave it open, once it’s done, for any other country to join. So, this is an agreement that ultimately could have the whole world in it as a set of binding corporate guarantees of new rights and privileges, enforced with cash sanctions and trade sanctions. It is not an exaggeration to say that the TPP threatens to become a regime of binding global governance, right at the time that the Occupy movement and movements around the world are demanding more power and control. This is the fightback. This is locking in the bad old way plus.

And in addition, the way that the agreement is being negotiated, these rules would require that you not only change all of your existing laws—so good progressive laws would have to be gotten rid of—but that, in the future, you don’t create new laws.

Now, the agreement now includes Australia, Brunei, New Zealand, Singapore, Chile, Peru and Vietnam, as well as the U.S., plus Malaysia has now joined. [as we are best new buddies with the mil AND Our Girl in Myanmar… Mcat] 

 And the agreement includes all of the NAFTA-style privileges that promote offshoring. But more drastically, it has all sorts of new corporate privileges, so the right to extend medicine and seed monopolies to jack up medicine prices, even the right to challenge formularies, medicine prescription group buying plans. For instance, what the Obama administration has put in their health reform bill, they are at the negotiating table behind closed doors trying to kill the right to use for other countries.

Or the financial rules would have just a limit. Countries aren’t allowed to ban risky financial products or services, at the same time that we’re trying to issue regulations under financial reform. And the agreement even meddles with how we spend our local tax dollars. For folks around the country who are doing sweat-free campaigns, who are doing living wage campaigns, green buying campaigns, this agreement says, A, you can’t have local preferences, so no “buy New York” state preference to recycle money back in your state, your tax dollars, no “buy American,” but also conditions like a product has to have recycled content or that that uniform has to be sweat-free. Those kind of conditions can be challenged. It is an incredible corporate power tool. It’s only gotten this far because it’s been secret. And people in the other countries don’t want it either. But our country is the one that’s largely pushing the most radical provisions, which is why it was so important for this text, which everyone can see an analysis of at tradewatch.org, to be made public, to make people aware of what’s really going on.

AMY GOODMAN: Lori, the last round of negotiations on the trade agreement took place in Dallas. While there, Obama’s appointed trade representative, Ron Kirk, spoke at an event for the local business community. The Yes Men took the opportunity to present Kirk, the former mayor of Dallas, with a mock award. This is a clip.

GIT HAVERSALL: Hello. Thank you so much for being here. My name is Git Haversall. And on behalf of the Texas Corporate Power Partnership, we are very, very pleased to announce that the U.S. trade negotiators are the winners of our 2012 Corporate Power Tool Award. I would like to personally thank the negotiators for their relentless efforts. The TPP agreement is shaping up to be a great way for us to maximize our profits, regardless of what the public of this nation or any other nation thinks is right.

AMY GOODMAN: The next round of negotiations on TPP are scheduled over the July 4th holiday weekend. Lori Wallach, can you comment on this? And also, what I assume would be President Obama’s response, if talking behind the scenes, like perhaps tonight when he’s going to be at Sarah Jessica Parker house with—with raising a lot of money—the financial sector is donating $37 million to Mitt Romney so far, the Obama administration’s haul, $4.8 million—that even his own Wall Street supporters are going over to Romney right now, so he would say he is doing better than Romney would in trying to take on these guys.

LORI WALLACH: I think that, for President Obama, there are two scenarios. One is, he has not been on top of what these negotiators are doing. [oh puhleese  –  Mcat]  This really has been under the radar. It’s so important that the text finally came out, because it sends a warning to Congress, to the public, etc., and that basically he’s got negotiators on the loose. They are many of the same people who during the Clinton administration got us into NAFTA, that recycled back into the trade negotiating team. The other alternative explanation is just the money one, which is, it is the case that this is an agreement the 1 percent loves. This is sort of one-percenter fantasy. It’s not just that on the margins and in national governments you have to keep fighting with all your money and lobbying to try and get what you want; this would lock it in for the future, indefinitely.

AMY GOODMAN: Lori Wallach, we want to thank you very much for being with us, director of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch. And we will continue to watch this.

This is Democracy Now! When we come back, whistleblower Jesselyn Radack on what a number in Congress are calling national security leaks. Stay with us.

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1. Madman in the Marketplace - 15 June 2012

that fucker will keep bleating about how important the “middle class” is while he destroys what’s left of it.

marisacat - 15 June 2012

I don’t think this can be stopped … it’s not like Wiki and other sites going dark for a whole damn day to supposedly win the internets thing…. and from what I read they just repackaged it…

And with this, in any version, it’s over. Maybe I am too dark and bleak about it, but I don’t think so… (as I carry a small carafe of Pinot Noir back to the bedroom… :lol: )

ms_xeno - 16 June 2012

He’s OUR ONLY CHOICE!

Read it in the local Stranger-clone rag’s comments the other day. Somebody clearly doesn’t understand that the English language doesn’t work like that. If it’s “only,” than no “choice” actually exists. Stupid hipster morons.

marisacat - 16 June 2012

I think an always useful comeback for that BS is Hannah Arendt…. who said that “voting for the lesser evil is still voting for evil”.

It often shuts people up.

2. Madman in the Marketplace - 15 June 2012

Locked up but innocent

A USA TODAY investigation, based on court records and interviews with government officials and attorneys, found more than 60 men who went to prison for violating federal gun possession laws, even though courts have since determined that it was not a federal crime for them to have a gun.

Many of them don’t even know they’re innocent.

The legal issues underlying their situation are complicated, and are unique to North Carolina. But the bottom line is that each of them went to prison for breaking a law that makes it a federal crime for convicted felons to possess a gun. The problem is that none of them had criminal records serious enough to make them felons under federal law.

Still, the Justice Department has not attempted to identify the men, has made no effort to notify them, and, in a few cases in which the men have come forward on their own, has argued in court that they should not be released.

Justice Department officials said it is not their job to notify prisoners that they might be incarcerated for something that they now concede is not a crime. And although they have agreed in court filings that the men are innocent, they said they must still comply with federal laws that put strict limits on when and how people can challenge their convictions in court.

“We can’t be outcome driven,” said Anne Tompkins, the U.S. attorney in Charlotte. “We’ve got to make sure we follow the law, and people should want us to do that.” She said her office is “looking diligently for ways, within the confines of the law, to recommend relief for defendants who are legally innocent.”

These cases are largely unknown outside the courthouses here, but they have raised difficult questions about what, if anything, the government owes to innocent people locked in prisons.

“It’s been tough,” said Ripley Rand, the U.S. attorney in Greensboro, N.C. “We’ve spent a lot of time talking about issues of fundamental fairness, and what is justice.”

It’s also unusual. Wrongful conviction cases are seldom open-and-shut — usually they depend on DNA or other new evidence that undermines the government’s case, but does not always prove someone is innocent. Yet in the North Carolina gun cases, it turns out, there simply were no federal crimes.

Using state and federal court records, USA TODAY identified 23 other men who had been sent to federal prison for having a firearm despite criminal records too minor to make that a federal crime. Nine of them remain in prison, serving sentences of up to 10 years; others are still serving federal probation. The newspaper’s review was limited to only a small fraction of cases from one of the three federal court districts in North Carolina.

Federal public defenders have so far identified at least 39 others in additional court districts, and are certain to find more. And prosecutors have already agreed to drop dozens of cases in which prisoners’ convictions were not yet final.

marisacat - 15 June 2012

have to ssay, when USA Today gets it right and makes an effort, they really do….

3. m - 15 June 2012

Sure wish Jeff Wells would begin writting again….

4. marisacat - 16 June 2012

fwiw…. a line-up of jokers knaves and moving cartoons

THE SHOWS:

–NBC’s “Meet the Press“: White House senior adviser David Plouffe; Sen. John McCain (R-AZ); roundtable with author and The Washington Post’s David Maraniss (“Barack Obama: The Story”), presidential historian Doris Kearns Goodwin, TIME Magazine’s Mark Halperin, former Rep. Harold Ford, Jr. (D-TN) and the Wall Street Journal’s Kim Strassel

–ABC’s “This Week“: White House senior adviser David Plouffe; roundtable with ABC News’ George Will, Romney campaign surrogate former Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN), political strategist Matthew Dowd, former Obama administration Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers and the University of Chicago’s Austan Goolsbee and The Nation’s Katrina vanden Heuvel

–CBS’s “Face the Nation“: Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney; former DNC Chairman and former Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT); Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC); political roundtable with The Washington Post’s Jonathan Capehart, the National Review’s Rich Lowry, CBS News’ Jan Crawford and CBS News’ John Dickerson

–“Fox News Sunday“: White House senior adviser David Plouffe; Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden (Ret.); roundtable with The Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol, former Howard Dean presidential campaign manager Joe Trippi, former Bush White House senior adviser Karl Rove and Fox News’ Juan Williams

–CNN’s “State of the Union” (SUN 9am ET / 12pm ET): White House senior adviser David Plouffe; former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA); Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY) and Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD)

–CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria GPS Live“: (SUN 10am ET / 1pm ET): Mayor of London Boris Johnson; roundtable on the global economy with Newsweek columnist and Harvard University’s Dr. Niall Ferguson and the University of Warwick’s Lord Robert Skidelsky; author and Copenhagen Business School’s Bjorn Lomborg (“Cool It: The Skeptical Environmentalist’s Guide to Global Warming”)

–Univision’s “Al Punto” (SUN 10am ET): Obama White House Domestic Policy Council Director Cecilia Muñoz, “DREAM” Activist Gaby Pacheco, roundtable on President Obama’s immigration announcement with Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL), Rep. David Rivera (R-FL), Hispanic issues expert Arnoldo Torres and EFE correspondent Maria Peña; Federal Electoral Institute’s (IFE) Dr. Francisco Javier Guerrero; “Colosio-El Asesinato” actress Kate del Castill

–MSNBC’s “Up with Chris Hayes” (SUN 8-10am ET): Former military analyst who leaked the Pentagon papers Daniel Ellsberg; roundtable with Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN), author and Buzzfeed’s Michael Hastings (“The Operators: The Wild and Terrifying Inside Story of America’s War in Afghanistan”), WBAI-FM’s “The Wake-Up Call” host Esther Armah, The Bernard Center for Women, Politics and Public Policy’s Michelle Bernard, The Atlantic’s Ta-Nehisi Coates and Columbia University’s Michael Bell

5. ms_xeno - 16 June 2012

Somebody really needs to put TIME out of its misery at this point. I was reminded of that while snerking through that stupid “news” article that Madman linked to in the last thread.

marisacat - 16 June 2012

TIME and Newsweek both, frankly…. just shoot them both.

ms_xeno - 17 June 2012

But who else will enable us to read about Jeebus in the checkout line once they’re gone? ;)

6. marisacat - 17 June 2012

:lol:

Such an unpleasant year…. all around. Obama says to eat your peas, and the SC natters on, still, about broccoli.

[banging head against concrete]

“If the individual mandate, requiring the purchase of insurance or the payment of a penalty, if that is unconstitutional, must the entire act fall?” she said, then outlining another key question. “Or, may the mandate be chopped, like a head of broccoli, from the rest of the act?”

Ginsburg’s comments at… think she was at Columbia for an appearance…

:roll:

ms_xeno - 17 June 2012

Didn’t the poor broccoli farmers suffer enough under Bush I? If I were a broccoli farmer, I’d sue.

Like the GOP isn’t drooling at the prospect of throwing out everything except the mandatory purchase bit. The Tea Partiers raise a finger to stop them any more than the pwog leadership raised a finger to stop Obama/Pelosi/Bacchus.

May he be re-elected and then get bitten in the ass by angry proles so hard over this that he has to flee in the dead of night to fucking Switzerland. And stay there.

marisacat - 17 June 2012

LOL… I spent a couple of years thinking… no question, they’d wedge him back in somehow. He’s so dutiful to their cause. And how would it look if we did not re-elect our first precious elevated… etc.

…But now… I wonder.

Even Jonathan Alter, slobberer extraordinaire, panned his Cleveland speech… not a great moment in time right now for Ob.

ms_xeno - 17 June 2012

Jill Stein should cross her fingers and hope for more pwog nattering about a Bush/Gore redux. The Greens could use some free publicity at this point. :p

Obama certainly never met a racist law he didn’t love, so it would be justice of a sort if he couldn’t get back into office because of disenfranchised ex-felons who went to jail in the first place because of the hateful Reagan fantasies that he regurgitates so happily.

I’d better go rosin up my tiny violin, just in case. :p

marisacat - 17 June 2012

I picked up a lot of desperation in his move on immigracion. And he def ran from the podium when he was, so to speak [snicker], done..

7. marisacat - 17 June 2012

hmmm CNN is reporting that Rodney King has been found dead…..

8. marisacat - 18 June 2012

:lol: Everything is going so well, what could happen?

Obama taps Sen. Kerry for debate rehearsals

President Obama has tapped Sen. John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee, to play Republican Mitt Romney in mock debate rehearsals, Obama campaign officials confirmed Monday. Obama will face Romney in three debates this fall. . . . . .

Read more at:
WaPo

ms_xeno - 19 June 2012

Wake me when the tasers come out. :p

marisacat - 19 June 2012

Kiss the kitties!!…. here is a great site, moiv sent it to me… there are even a couple cat sleeping positions I have never seen… (the laundry rack… and the cat who made a hammock out of a curved grill over a window… and “the ruler” is a pretty streamline version of a classic cat sleep position)

I laughed ALL the way thru all 25 pics…

http://www.buzzfeed.com/paws/awkward-cat-sleeping-positions

ms_xeno - 19 June 2012

Beautiful! I can vouch for The Sid having tried all the box positions at least once (that I know about).

Butterscotch the Evil, however, is a burrower. You can never sit down on the bed without feeling around first to make sure she’s not “positioning” under the covers somewhere.

marisacat - 19 June 2012

At Chrsitmas we used to give the cats a box of kleenex (one each, of course!!) AND give them a couple of big fat pinches of cat nip on the carpet.

Oh what fun!! Not only the madcap rush to beat up, chase, capture the tissues… but then when they got the boxes empty to try to fit themselves into a Kleenex box. SO funny.

ms_xeno - 23 June 2012

:D

At the moment, The Sid’s favorite hangout is an empty box that once held a twelve-er of Sessions Beer.

marisacat - 23 June 2012

They are so proud of themselves after they sorta kinda wedge themselves in somehwere…. we had a big orange cat who would get all 4 feet in the kleenex box, still standing tho, then look up and it was clear he thought he had mastered the location.

9. marisacat - 18 June 2012

It’s Insta-Glenn… but he’s right (he links back to http://www.reason.com/blog an entry of today, 6/18 in case anyone wants to read further)

ANOTHER WRONG-HOUSE RAID: Ninth Circuit to DEA: Putting a Gun to an 11-Year-Old’s Head Is Not OK. No, but it’s standard operating procedure, apparently.

There should be no official immunity for no-knock raids.

Plus:

“While this raid was conducted under President George W. Bush, the deputy administrator of the DEA at that time was Michele Leonhart. She is now the administrator of the DEA, thanks to an appointment by President Barack Obama.

Furthermore, the Obama Administration could have declined to defend the DEA in this case.

Instead, Obama’s Justice Department has decided to make the case that federal agents should be allowed to hold guns to the heads of children.” (Emphasis added.)

And why aren’t the names of all the agents published? They should be publicly shamed for their error, and their behavior. From the opinion: “At the time the warrant was issued, DEA Agents believed that a vehicle belonging to suspected drug trafficker Luis Alvarez was registered at the Avina residence. After executing the search warrant on January 20, 2007, the agents discovered they had inadvertently written down a license number of a vehicle belonging to Thomas Avina instead of a vehicle belonging to Luis Alvarez.”

No ordinary citizen who made such an error, and then threatened children with guns, would enjoy anonymity.

Posted at 2:23 pm by Glenn Reynolds

10. marisacat - 20 June 2012

Gee what a shock. I think it would be much more efficient if the 4th rate jackals just bit each other to death.

House panel holds Attorney General Holder in contempt

A House panel moves to hold Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. in contempt for failing to cooperate with a congressional inquiry into the “Fast and Furious” gun-tracking operation. The citation sets up a clash between Congress and the executive branch over the extent of presidential power that may take months to play out. . . . . .

Read more at:
Wapo

I think Issa, Holder and Slob all deserve each other.

11. marisacat - 22 June 2012

hmm maybe scraping bottom.

Frm the Open Thread at today’s Talk Left [ http://www.talkleft.com ]

[new] Funny or desperate? (none / 0) (#56)

by BTAL on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 02:14:48 PM EST

Well at least it is unique.

Obama campaign launches events registry

President Obama is launching an events registry that will allow a birthday boy or a bride-to-be to encourage their friends to give to the campaign — instead of a gift.

“Got a birthday, anniversary, or wedding coming up?” the campaign wrote in a blog post. “Let your friends know how important this election is to you–register with Obama 2012, and ask for a donation in lieu of a gift.”

“It’s a great way to support the President on your big day. Plus, it’s a gift that we can all appreciate–and goes a lot further than a gravy bowl,” the campaign wrote.

Link

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[new] My goodness he’s the President ! (none / 0) (#58)

by samsguy18 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 02:25:30 PM EST

This event registry is Crass….what is going on with his campaign…they have lost touch with the real world

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ms_xeno - 23 June 2012

Oh, as if those dipshits ever knew, or cared, what goes in the daily lives of the livestock they shear/milk/stampede/whatever.

I could gift-box the various chunks falling off my house and send them to the White House. Many Happy Returns, Assholes.

12. ts - 23 June 2012

Sandusky found guilty of 45 counts.

marisacat - 23 June 2012

When the jury was selected, with several with strong connections ot Penn State, I really wondered, but finally as one report put it, the jury declared him a monster.

Earlier on, last year there was reporting that seemed to indicate to me that there had been many problems in the home… iirc, there wwere suicide attempts with foster children, either after for whatever reason they left his home …. or during. And I think possibly one successful suicide.

So it was hardly surprising, at least not on all levels that even what appeared to be a loyal foster, adpted finally came forward.

Talk about a community in collusion.

marisacat - 23 June 2012

BTW, if you have not caught Moyers (who generally has been very boring and worthless in this latest incarnation) he has on Matt Taibbi and Yves Smith following the Dimon appearance. Very very good…

13. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 June 2012
marisacat - 24 June 2012

The thread is interesting… like other places, there is so much anger, resignation, dismissal of his “talents” and even bitterness at Slobby.

I think places that want to advocate for Slobby’s re-elect are having a rough time (tho I have no idea the position John Cole of Ballooon Juice takes)…

I know, as example, that at Talk Left Jeralynn and (here is a big horselaugh) Big Tent Democrat aka Armando have literally had to retreat in the face of commenters. I assume Dkos is the same bag of fetid gas it always is….

VERY entertaining.

Madman in the Marketplace - 24 June 2012

Cole’s firmly in the “lesser evil” position … most of the posters over there are.

marisacat - 24 June 2012

This will amuse you, BTD has all but stopped posting at TL, he throws up a Open Thread every once in a while and has stopped exhorting for Slobby. His counterpoints were old time Armando, “You’re stupid” or “That’s slander”. Repeated of course. Which is not tosay the commenters for the most part are anything but Hillary acolytes…. (snicker)

I am delighted the jerk-offs supporting Slob have so little to say … it really is down to the SCOTUS…. and even then it gets thrown back in their faces..

A perfect end for Armando…. that old slack jawed idiot.

Madman in the Marketplace - 24 June 2012

he’s increasingly impossible to justify

marisacat - 24 June 2012

There is no justification, none.

ms_xeno - 28 June 2012

If you assume that the faithful genuinely enjoy being abused constantly, it all makes sense.

I literally opened to the first page of our local Stranger clone this morning and read two or three sentences into the letters page, long enough to see some miniature hipster Armando wannabe bellowing about lesser-evilism and “GROW UP, VIRGINS!” That’s a direct quote.

They love being abused, so long as there’s somebody lower down the food chain, some “virgin” they themselves can scream at and kick around.

I slammed the paper shut and went for a walk. Fuck these apologist idiots, D & R alike. I’m so sick of “99%” of them. It’s possible to fathom the ones that are actually stinking wealthy, because they get (or preserve) something tangible from the ritualized abuse. Little mister/ms “GROW-UP-VIRGINS!” gets squat, apart from the right to make anyone not resigned to the inevitability of 365/24/7 evil feel like shit. They sell out and don’t even get anything concrete for it. They genuinely believe that it’s savvy to approve drone bombings, bailouts, and the rest– and that there’s something wrong with anyone who won’t.

Just fuck them.

marisacat - 28 June 2012

it’s a very imperial country… finally. In all ways…

14. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 June 2012
marisacat - 24 June 2012

Honest to god he ends up looking meaner and more sociopathic than Bush 2 ever did… and that man could be frightening.

In case you need a laugh:

Mr Fish

http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/the_list_20120619/

(thanks for the link)

Madman in the Marketplace - 24 June 2012

OMG, too funny

ms_xeno - 30 June 2012

I really think the D apologists need to copy their counterparts in the Rs. Revel in the glories of imperialism, ritualized theft and bloodshed and being the biggest, rudest bully on the block. All this diffidence and feigned regret the D’s feel compelled to display so they can look “civilized” or “evovled” or sooooo above the raw passions of their supposed opposition? It just rings more and more hollow with each passing day.

If they insist on worshiping career criminals and predators this way, can’t they at least finally stop being so unconvincingly aw-shucks about it?

marisacat - 30 June 2012

Exactly. Go for it.

All the threads in Dem party sites drip with the presumption they are smarter, better, wiser, kinder and, stellar among it all, THE essential egalitarian people, than ANY R.

It’s actually pretty funny when you think about it.

Who is IOZ has an hilarious line in an entry…. he calls digby’s The Dim Bulb Emporium. http://www.whoisioz.blogspot.com/ third entry down…. he’s got another tht slashes at white liberals too. very amsuing…

So on target for all of those sites.

ms_xeno - 1 July 2012

Yep. And that sorry-ass tool, Saunders, who’s all we’re ever permitted so far as “independent” elected voices, is quoted today on the PNHP site as saying that of course we MUST support Obamacare even though single-payer is what we actually want.

Fuck him, too. He’s as much an “independent” as I am a fucking supermodel.

marisacat - 1 July 2012

They all caved… in fact I agree with a poster over at Stop Me Before… think it may have been Fluggenrock (or whatever the cartoonist name is) who fingered Wendell Potter as all along an industry plant.

All the supposed critics and hold outs caved, on schedule.

This whole flap on “penalty”, “tax”, whatever it is, reminds me of the mess with Medicare Part D, the Bush 2 prescription drug coverage under Medicare. I declined to join when ever it was instituted, 2004, ’05 I forget now, as I took nothing, no scripts… The Dems were wildly and widely promising they would “fix the donut hole” when they sought majority in 2006 and also said they would take care of the “penalty” for declining coverage and later seeking to join.

LOL Fortunately I never believed them… when I did look into joining a plan (of which there is something like 50 to choose from in cali, one reason I just closed the booklet on it… LOL fatigue, when Medicare sent it) … Nope!! the penalty is still in place – – – for me it would be 15 dollars a month, MORE than the most expensive of my scripts – for a 90 day supply, Warfarin at 48.00…

What can you do but laugh and pay up.

Such fucking bullshitters.

ms_xeno - 1 July 2012

Oh, but 15 bucks a month, 95 bucks a month, whatever. It’s nothing to the average lobbyist or Yuppie political tastemaker-blogger. So if it’s something to you, it follows that you yourself… are nothing: beneath acknowledgment or discussion.

This is going to blow up mightily in Hopey’s face a few years down the road, and I only want to be alive long enough to see it happen. He wanted his name attached to this horror even though it was originally the brainchild of Dole, Romney, et al, and so it will be, now and forever.

marisacat - 1 July 2012

Oh I agree, 15.00 a month is nothing to make the insurers and the gubmint happy. That bitch Nancy was on TV this morning saying the R are shilling for the insurance industry with thir repeal chatter – – – – and the Dems are making sure the people win.
:lol::roll: = :mrgreen:

Yup, you have more you are more. Which Sarkozy said very succinctly in one of his early speeches. Right on target.

As for Slob, Oh I am actively hoping he manages re-election. He needs to be in place… and I look forward to his lame duck 4 years as the goat.

Mostly I worry he can’t manage it…. state by state it looks daunting and has for a long time.

Bonne Chance!

marisacat - 1 July 2012

I scammed this from a thread at SMBIVA:

“Penalty:

The annual penalty for not having minimum essential coverage will be the greater of a flat dollar amount per individual or a percentage of the individual’s taxable income. For any dependent under the age 18, the penalty is one half of the individual amount.

The flat dollar amount per individual is $95 in 2014; $325 in 2015 and $695 in 2016.After 2016, the flat dollar amount is indexed to inflation. The flat dollar penalty is capped at 300% of the flat dollar amount. For example:

o A family of three (two parents and one child under 18) would have a flat dollar penalty of $1737 in 2016;

o A family of four (two parents and two children over 18) would have a flat dollar penalty of $2,085 in 2016 because the 300 % cap would apply.

The percentage of taxable income is an amount equal to a percentage of a household’s income (as defined by the Act) that is in excess of the tax filing threshold (phased in at 1% in 2014; 2% in 2015; 2.5% in 2016). For example:

o If an individual has a household income of $50,000, the percentage would be 1% of the difference between $50,000 and the tax threshold (which is $9,350 for an individual in 2010). Assuming the tax threshold is $10,000 in 2014, this individual would be subject to a percentage penalty of $400. Because this percentage penalty is greater than the flat dollar penalty for 2014 (which is $95), he would pay the percentage penalty.

Generally, the annual penalty is capped at an amount equal to the national average premium for qualified health plans which have a bronze level of coverage available through the state Exchange.”

Simple, huh? Why, any child could understand it.

Posted by Hill Rat | July 1, 2012 1:54 PM

ts - 1 July 2012
15. marisacat - 26 June 2012

In case anyone was worried about the [cough choke strangle] election… I heard last night

…the campaign is sending Michelle out to SECURE THE BASE”.

.
:roll:

.

Hell, you may never stop laughing after reading that whopper.

Our current Potus and Flotus who are only happy when, for him, a complete sports team comes to see him for slap happy photo ops… and

for her, global shoppy droppies with her buds.

And, ingloriously, Bush Due remains the King of Administration Diversity. (no, he really is… this is not a joke….)

We are so fucked.

16. ts - 28 June 2012

Interesting ruling to say the least. It is a violation of the Commerce Clause to force people to buy something, but the health care law doesn’t force people to buy anything, it only taxes/penalizes them if they don’t. And the $95 or 1% of income penalty (whichever is bigger), is apparently not a “burdensome” penalty to anyone, or at least anyone that matters.

In a way, it makes a perverse sense. If you can’t afford health insurance, you’re likely to be bankrupted by any serious health issue, and the extra penalty becomes a relatively small issue.

marisacat - 28 June 2012

Plus, Roberts is basically the ultimate R operative… Turley referred to him as “hydroponically raised for this very nomination”…. and between being elevated to CJ AND being so young, he affects the court for god knows how many decades. To say nothing of his “work” in Miami in 2000….

Meanwhile the supposed liberals (sort of, here and there…. LOL) are elderly. Kagan and Sotomayor are no prizes.

I did not know HOW they would do it, but it was likely they’d produce a twisted, little of this little of that opinion….

With no ins industry regulation, no cost controls of the health care biz, people are still screrwerewerdddd.

Off to the races…

ts - 28 June 2012

Yes, this was perfect Obama legislation: a lot of hand waving, a small redistribution – in this case we’ll all pay a little more to insure the handful of people who the insurance companies cant legally drop anymore, a gift for the health care companies, and nothing really changed at all.

marisacat - 28 June 2012

Have you seen the commentary around that the clerks apparently did not clean up the language in the Roberts dox… he refers to Ginsburg’s dissent, when in fact it appears he switched over to what was going to be a 4 justice dissent, Ginsburg writing for the dissenters… And he then writes for the ruling.

Oh I would love the back story on this one.

Much commentary around that it lays a groundwork for further dissemble of New Deal legislation, really a two pronged mess they handed us… and also commentary around the that slug, Roberto Gonsales who vetted Roberts for the nom, had posited that Roberts would likely find on this narrow slice of taxing powers…

Apparently there is precedent that a tax has to go into effect before it can be challenged, as well.

Look for years of litigation, of all sorts, as I see it.

ts - 30 June 2012

Forgot that Arthur Silber had called it the “fuck you act”

marisacat - 1 July 2012

oh that was great! Thanks, it was ages since I had read his site…

marisacat - 1 July 2012

BTW… and I am reminded of this as I watch a segment on the Hackensack University Medical Center, which is acquiring hospitals as fast as it can, which is what Cal Pac Med Cntr, where I was, has done for years now…. but I read that one thing that is happening, Ins Cos are acquiring hosptials.

I doubt that will go well for ANYONE but them.

The supposed story behind the Hackensack acquisitions is because Medicare and Medicaid are being slashed. The dollar amount payments I mean,…. Something the three quarters dead sell-out Dems never talk about much.

17. marisacat - 1 July 2012

and so on…

Peña Nieto is winner of Mexican election, exit polls show

Enrique Peña Nieto, a dynamic, crowd-pleasing politician and the new face of a once-corrupt political party, was elected president of Mexico on Sunday by a wide margin, according to exit polls by the country’s major media outlets.

Peña Nieto and his Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI), which lost power in 2000 after more than 70 years as the “perfect dictatorship,” performed a remarkable act of political rehabilitation, convincing voters tired of drug violence and slow economic growth that the 45-year-old former governor could make Mexico more prosperous, more secure and more fair. . . . . . .

Wapo

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 July 2012

… once corrupt …

RFLMAO

sure, all cleaned up now …

marisacat - 2 July 2012

ain’t it a laugh?

18. marisacat - 2 July 2012

new

LINK
:roll:


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