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Who survives? 25 September 2006

Posted by marisacat in 2006 Mid Terms, 2008 Election, Afghanistan War, Bolivia - Evo Morales, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iraq War.


No, I mean really.  None of this ends anytime soon. 

I heard Bill burble about democracy in the ME, parroting Bush.  At some point in the famous Fox display.  Same interview where he mindlessly lauds the three Republicans – some passing fancy he claims they have with the Constitution – or so he wants us to think.  Our Constitution, our Bill of Rights.  

Hillary had harsher words this week for Chavez then she has ever had for Bush.  Any Bush…

I heard Rajiv Chandrasekaran say on Cspan “we cannot leave” we are “holding the line”.  Does he notice all the blood dripping I wonder.  He must.

But I also heard, months ago, Shadid of the Wapo say – on some C-Span panel – that he felt pride in the power of his government (he might have said “country”, not certain) when the Saddam statue came down.  Honestly, that one did stun me.  Sickened me too.

 Before the war, I was careful to catch a Friedman appearance on Oprah.  I had a feeling that wretch would say something worth my bothering – if only to impress the ladies…  And he did, said we’d be in Iraq for ”at least 20 years”. Not a surprise, if one had been applying the German or Korean or Japanese or or or or or model.  But it was news to the Oprah crowd.   Their mouths sagged open. 

Then, last summer, I heard Hackett parse the war as tightly as any pol.  Out here in SF to gather money, he said he “saw no evidence of any permanent bases”.

We are far gone.  The two reporters are saner than most.  And Bill and HIllary think they deserve to reign.

Quagmire is absolutely everywhere. No one, no one in any leadership position is willing to talk to the American people.  Not really.

    April 4 2003 -Taking Baghdad Intl Airport

Some wonderful links in comments lately. Arcturus links to posts on Habeas Corpus at his site, Constellations

Talk about a return to the Middle Ages.

While the Senate openly removes habeas protections for anyone designated an “enemy combatant,” the backdoor assault on the Great Writ that began with the 1996 “Anti-terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act” (AEDPA) continues apace, with Arizona’s John Kyl (who aspires to the Senate judiciary chair) again leading the charge. This isn’t likely to be spelled out in the pages of the NY Times.

Arcturus links to the Justice Project

Habeas Protection Campaign

Members of Congress continue to work behind closed doors to pass legislation designed to eliminate federal review of criminal cases. The provisions, which are opposed by a broad array of organizations and individuals, would effectively repeal the “Great Writ” of habeas corpus, leading to more errors and unfairness in the criminal justice system. The legislation would also undercut the few safeguards that currently exist and likely increase the risk that innocent people will remain in prison, or even be executed.

When Habeas goes, in my small opinion, the nation will be gone.  Everything I have read for two years has a low and quiet drum beat (to me) – they want to make US citizenship conditional, something available for review. They moved very easily from arguments about “enemy combatants” (bad enough, we should cling like mad to the Geneva Conventions) to now reducing basic rights of citizenship, drawing at the same well.  Fewer rights for everyone.  And, frankly, everyone guilty.  That is my uneducated reading of where we are headed.

From the Habeas Protection link above:

Now, the DOD Authorization bill — the purpose of which is to provide resources for forces in Afghanistan and Iraq — is being weighed down and slowed by controversial and wrong-headed crime legislation that has otherwise been unable to garner majority support in both houses of Congress. Members of both parties who have fought on principle to resist these regressive changes to habeas should continue to do so and not be made to appear anti-patriotic when they rightfully object to this unnecessarily bloated DOD bill.

Regular order — which assures that both Chambers of Congress have a fair opportunity to consider the legislation — has been skirted; indeed, the texts of some of the added measures has not been seen by many members and their staff nor by the public — there is only one proper course of action — remove the non-germane matters from the bill. 

And Madman drew on one of the comments from NYCO:

( New York ) On Monday, September 18, President Evo Morales Ayma and Foreign Minister David Choquehuanca of Bolivia met with Native American leaders on the Bolivian President’s first day in New York City . The President, Foreign Minister and his delegation were in New York for the opening of the General Assembly.

The meeting was organized at the request of the President and facilitated by the American Indian Law Alliance, a New York City Indigenous non-governmental organization, along with the Secretariat of the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues at the UN. Tonya Gonnella Frichner (Onondaga), President of the American Indian Law Alliance, moderated the meeting. She opened the discussion with a brief history on some Native nations’ historical and modern relationships with the American government and the struggle of North American Native peoples. [snip]

 to write a post.

[H]ere at the end of this latest cycle of time, on the cusp of great change and dangerous upheaval, what lessons can we find from this meeting, and from the growing movements calling for change, for more opportunities for the poor, the oppressed and the suffering around the world?

Well, first lets throw away any of the “noble savage” tropes that are all-too-often slathered over the top of meetings like these, declarations like these. Indigenous people are only people, after all, subject to the same jealousies and corruptions as anybody else. Instead, lets look at the ideas that form the mythical basis for so many so-called “pagan” or “primitive” cultures, ideas that are being carried forward by leaders like those above. What so many of these cultures hold to be true, hold in common, is the idea of CONNECTEDNESS. The Lakota phrase for this belief is Mitakuye Oyasin, “for all my relations” or “we are all related”. [snip]

And this via Danny Schechter, from the Toronto Sun (Information Clearing House):

In the late 1980s, I was the first western journalist allowed into the world’s most dreaded prison, Moscow’s sinister Lubyanka. […]

I still shudder recalling Lubyanka’s underground cells, grim interrogation rooms, and execution cellars where tens of thousands were tortured and shot. […]

Prisoners taken in the dead of night to Lubyanka were systematically beaten for days with rubber hoses and clubs. There were special cold rooms where prisoners could be frozen to near death. Sleep deprivation was a favourite and most effective Cheka technique. So was near-drowning in water fouled with urine and feces.

I recall these past horrors because of what this column has long called the gradual “Sovietization” of the United States. This shameful week, it became clear Canada is also afflicted.

We have seen America’s president and vice president, sworn to uphold the Constitution, advocating some of the same interrogation techniques the KGB used at the Lubyanka. They apparently believe beating, freezing, sleep deprivation and near-drowning are necessary to prevent terrorist attacks. So did Stalin.

The White House insisted that anyoneincluding Americans — could be kidnapped and tried in camera using “evidence” obtained by torturing other suspects. Bush & Co. deny the U.S. uses torture but reject the basic law of habeaus corpus and U.S. laws against the evil practice.

The UN says Bush’s plans violate international law and the Geneva Conventions.

This week’s tentative agreement between Bush and Congress may somewhat limit torture, but exempts U.S. officials from having to observe the Geneva Convention.

I happened to see this at News Dissector, it may be old news but it had slipped by me:

“Big Brother is not only watching you – now he’s barking orders too. Britain’s first ‘talking’ CCTV cameras have arrived, publicly berating bad behaviour and shaming offenders into acting more responsibly.”

www.rinf.com  … they probably travel with a handy set of thumb screws to increase the public shaming. 


And this, from Tuston, fits right in.  It has always felt to me they are walling us in (as well):


August 24, 2006

Given the Homeland Security Department’s history of waste and spiraling costs in past procurements, Congress plans to keep a close watch as the department brings the private sector in to help secure 7,500 miles of the nation’s borders.

Larry Halloran, deputy staff director for the House Government Reform Committee, said Chairman Tom Davis, R-Va., is concerned about the vagueness of the Secure Border Initiative solicitation and doubts the department’s ability to handle the $2 billion procurement.

“When you have a complex procurement under way to integrate fences, sensors, UAVs [unmanned aerial vehicles], and other technology, it takes a procurement capacity we haven’t seen yet,” Halloran said.

Homeland Security must choose among five companies — Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop Grumman and Ericsson — vying to supply technology and services under the SBInet program, bidders said.

Mucho bucks to be made.  I watched some of the hearings two weeks ago of the House Government Reform Sub Committe, issues of Iraq were on the table that day.

Jokers.  Pity the money isn’t funny. I wish Americans could grow up and realise our nationalised health care, the one we will never, never, ever get, is riding in warships and missiles and F-16s, 18s, 22s and so on, literally around the world. 

Arms dealer, dealer in wars.

A snip from a comment of Deepest Throat:

I can no longer call Laredo home, it is not my town, not a town that now resembles one metropolitan detention center. Sad thing is, I don’t think the people there realize they are voluntarily allowing themselves to be detained. When SBI fully takes effect and the walls that will kill off the border towns, it will be at that time they will realize they are the detainees.

And links at the comment to a series of articles on The Wall (and who profits) we likely will build (all that money, you know) 

      Border Patrol, seen from the Mexico side


UPDATE, 6:15 pm

You may have noticed around the blogs, discussion of the different NewsWeek  covers for Europe /Asia / Latin America vs US for the October 2 issue.

Truth out has the text that is being carried in Europe for the Losing Afghanistan story.

Some critics point to a jarring mismatch between Bush’s rhetoric and the scant attention paid to Afghanistan. Jim Dobbins, Bush’s former special envoy to Kabul – he also led the Clinton administration’s rebuilding efforts in Bosnia, Kosovo, Haiti and Somalia – calls Afghanistan the “most under-resourced nation-building effort in history.” Former Bush reconstruction coordinator Carlos Pascual, who retired in December 2005, does not dispute this assessment. He says the State Department has “maybe 20 to 30 percent” of the people it needs. Even Republican Sen. Richard Lugar, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, fretted last week that for five years the administration and Congress have failed to create a powerful nation-building czar, despite their enthusiasm for regime change. “We have a long way to go,” he said.

So.  Ya think the Dems could make some of that stick? 2002… 2004… another chance heading over the hill… soon to ride into the sunset of history…  

Will they try? Because this, no fucking question, is W’s own mess. 

I am very unclear that Bill’s display on FOX did all that much. Got him some face time, finger pointing, bluster, ink, etc., w/r/t a big gnawing issue… Or, let’s be frank, did re-election (however you get there in this political climate, is how you get there) make it all moot – and old? … in the calcified mind of the public, I mean. 

I did see it in full over the week end… and caught the patch, repair, knit and sew roundtable with Wallace, Hume, Liasson and Juan WIlliams.  Enh.

So what is Bill doing so damned cosy with Rupert?  All questions are fair.  Love and war.

Ben-Veniste was on CNN with Wolf for a few revelations.  Points for trying, but we are so muddled. 

BLITZER: So you the asked the president in the Oval Office — and the vice president — why didn’t you go after the Taliban in those eight months before 9/11 after he was president. What did he say?

BEN-VENISTE: Well, now that it was established that al Qaeda was responsible for the Cole bombing and the president was briefed in January of 2001, soon after he took office, by George Tenet, head of the CIA, telling him of the finding that al Qaeda was responsible, and I said, “Well, why wouldn’t you go after the Taliban in order to get them to kick bin Laden out of Afghanistan?”

Maybe, just maybe, who knows — we don’t know the answer to that question — but maybe that could have affected the 9/11 plot.

BLITZER: What did he say?

BEN-VENISTE: He said that no one had told him that we had made that threat. And I found that very discouraging and surprising.

Honestly the “rally the troops” spin from Jay Carson (who was at Bill’s right hand for Soul Food Harlem, Day Trippers Meet the Man) has a whiff.  It is a snip included in a later CNN replaying of the Ben-Veniste, not a transcript up yet… 

So now they will wake up and fight?  I still believe the collective Democratic strangle (did we triangulate to death?) comes from the top.

Bill Kristol.  Hmm. 


UPDATE, 9:20 pm

ooo.  Quite important, I think.  Let us see what can be made of it, in California and without.  Just saw this over at SMBIVA:

From The Note:

In a pair of speeches on Tuesday, Democrat Phil Angelides plans to say that on his first day as governor he would call for all California National Guardsmen to return to the Golden State.If implemented, the Angelides proposal would almost certainly provoke a legal challenge. [snip]

This works for me.  However, there is little real indication that national Dems – and locals too – really support Angelides.  So, my guess is this is too challenging for the noodle-kneed Democrats.

I think it is a great ploy tho.  And should be pushed, hard.  IIRC California has lost the most in Iraq of any state.  And at least in my area, the local press and TV news have covered issues for the NG in Iraq from the very beginning.  Families were breaking up, homes being lost, small business shut and so on from the very first year of the war.

    CA NG on the GGB

Just heard on the news that in the latest round of HLS monies:

Port of San Francisco, 0.  Port of Oakland, 0.  Port of Stockton, 0.  Only Port of Richmond got anything.  A very palty 1 million.  Maybe we should just apply directly to the Chinese.

And a clip of George Clooney on a stage with Arnold.  Cute.  Both of them telling us that ”some things transcend party”.  They are pushing Darfur.  Ah yes.  Death and destruction far far away.  Just as PR advisors told Bill Gates, focus the foundation outside America.  Don’t get caught criticising America.

Don’t want to do that.  Might take courage.




1. TustonDAZ - 25 September 2006

…they want to make US citizenship conditional, something available for review. They moved very easily from arguments about ”enemy combatants” (bad enough, we should cling like mad to the Geneva Conventions) to now reducing basic rights of citizenship, drawing at the same well. Fewer rights for everyone. And, frankly, everyone guilty.


Can you say Real ID?

Starting three years from now, if you live or work in the United States, you’ll need a federally approved ID card to travel on an airplane, open a bank account, collect Social Security payments, or take advantage of nearly any government service. Practically speaking, your driver’s license likely will have to be reissued to meet federal standards.
What’s going to be stored on this ID card?
At a minimum: name, birth date, sex, ID number, a digital photograph, address, and a “common machine-readable technology” that Homeland Security will decide on. The card must also sport “physical security features designed to prevent tampering, counterfeiting, or duplication of the document for fraudulent purposes.”

Homeland Security is permitted to add additional requirements–such as a fingerprint or retinal scan–on top of those. We won’t know for a while what these additional requirements will be.


The thing to realize is that once they fund the 11 Billion and ten years of “transitioning” it will be illegal to be anywhere in the US without one of these cards.

The arresting officers can be local or federal or contracted police and the court you go to will be a DHS immigration court to determine your “status”

The one bright spot will be that Cop reality shows will get much better; you will get pay-per-view live video feed from the surveillance drones overhead busting illegal alien terrorists outside your front door.

2. Arcturus - 25 September 2006

Well, I missed Folsom Fair yesterday for the first time in a while- the world’s greatest celebrationn of sexual Otherness — gay, straight, tg — a parallel universe-for-a-day presided over by the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence — throngs of near naked bodies in the sun where cops smile to watch guys getting blow-jobs in the street.

fwiw, unlike ‘enemy combatants,’ they’re not doing away with habeas entirely for US citizens — just making it harder & harder to bring a writ in federal court through several tactics — one of the scarier ones being a near total deference to the state Supreme courts.

didn’t Boeing get a $2 billion-sumpin’ border security contract?

As to “surivors,” I started a book yesterday written by an old acquaintance from our SF days, David Levi Strauss’ Between the Eyes: Essays on Photography & Politics from Aperture (2003), which got me to hunting what of Brazilian photographer Sebastiao Salgado’s work is on the web. Turns out, quite a lot! Anyhoos, I’d humbly submit that his photographs are a powerful witness to what it means to survive in today’s world:

I am not a judge of what’s good or what’s bad. My pictures are only a cross-section of what happens through this cycle of displacement and migration. For seven years I traveled to 47 different countries. I shoot globally and I want to show globally: each of my stories is about globalization and ecomomic liberalization: a sample of the human condition on the planet today.

My big hope is to aid and provoke a debate so that we can discuss the human condition looking from the point of view of displaced peoples around the world. My photographs are like a vector that link what is happening and give the person who does not have the opportunity to go there the possibility to look. I hope that the person who comes into my show and the person who comes out are not quite the same. [snip]

All my work is linked together like different chapters of the same story: my pictures of Latin American peasants’ fight for survival, my pictures of the Sahel, those of the refugees and displaced populations, those about workers, they are all about human beings fighting for their dignity and trying to live better together. I am trying to be coherent with this small moment in the planet where I live, and in the end my pictures are a way of life.

Sebastiao Salgado

His informed empathy and the outsized beauty of so many of his images serve to transcend the common journalistic shorthand that depicts people reductively, according to the degree of their latest victimization. This shorthand also tends to render its subjects anonymous, particularly in the Third World where it takes masses of ultimately interchangeable “victims” for the Western press to pay attention. In the process, people tend to be denuded of their larger, more complicated humanity, including their culture and the internal resources that allow for self-determination. Such a ploy serves to tug momentarily at us in the affluent North until we succumb to “compassion fatigue” and go on to the next grouping of two-dimensional figures to be temporarily featured.

By spending more time with people, Salgado feels, he is able to see their suffering and their strength, which approaches at times a spiritual ascendancy. And the sheer grandeur of the imagery, its recognition of nature’s vastness, with chiaroscuro lighting and tones that at times seem to swell upward form a profound darkness, making palpable the etched skin of those depicted, aids as well in allowing the people depicted to take a more resonant, enduring, differentiated position in our collective history. -From “The Lyric Documentarian” by Fred Ritchin

While I was aware of his work before, looking at several projects consecutively on that site, combined with some stuff I’ve been tossing around in head, has just blown me away . . .

simply stunning

3. CSTAR - 25 September 2006

What is wonderful about Salgado is that his photography is a an account of what there is, without embellishments. In some ways this seemingly dispassionate “relatório” (= verbal account in portugues, but hard to translate from the portuguese in a way which faithfully reflects the word’s bureacratic undertone and legacy) forces us to realize that we don’t see what is, but something else. The Brazilian writer Euclides da Cunha, author of one the great brazilian epics “Os Sertões” was a “mere” engineer who systematically reported on life and hardship in the “nordeste brasileiro”, and particularly the military operations against the followers of Antonio Conselheiro a religious/political movement born out of despair.

These events were the basis of Glauber Rocha’s classic “Deus e o diabo na terra do sol”.

Why do I bring this up? Because our political dialogue vis-vis the US role in the world has become provinicial. Democrats and republicans alike fail to see what there is. The war against Lebanon an eye opener; Did any of our politicans dare call Israel an aggressor? For another example, it is astonishing that Chomsky is considered “shrill” even by some “liberals” (I didn’t see this comment on DKos directly, although someone here mentioned it). Chomsky may be dense reading, but he says simply what there is.

4. marisacat - 25 September 2006

I was very shocked to read over and over at Dkos from 2003 onward, from swarms, “shrill”, and other derogatives, used against Chomsky. And yes there it was again in the Chavez threads at Kos.

He is anything but. Chomsky and Mcluhan and others that I read at 20 still stand me in good stead.

5. TustonDAZ - 25 September 2006

Loved the Salgado…just skimmed it, ’cause I’m I’m just takin’ a quick lunchbreak but this AZ Daily Star Article dovetails nicely with MitM’s piece linked above:

For traditional worshippers in a remote Tohono O’odham village, the 25-mile trip to a sacred site across the border is about to turn into a trek of more than 70 miles.
The U.S. Border Patrol plans to seal Menager’s Dam Gate, a cattle crossing Ali Jegk, Ariz. residents such as Ofelia Rivas have used all their lives to reach a ceremonial site in Quitovac, Mexico, and to visit tribal members who live south of the border.
For the nearly 12 million people who live along the U.S.-Mexican border, the line is an unnatural divider, splitting cultures that are otherwise alike. Sealing the border would forever divide communities and tribes whose strong cross-border ties are integral to their identities, a Star investigation found.
From his ranch house just east of Jacumba, Calif., 58-year-old Raúl Gallego can see his parents’ house in Jacumé, Mexico, across the rolling green hills.
He and his wife, Monica, 50, used to walk 20 minutes or drive 10 minutes across the border two or three times a week. After his parents died, he and his wife continued to make weekly trips to check on their house.
But in the post-Sept. 11 world, border security trumps convenience and tradition. Border Patrol agents no longer allow crossings at Jacumba. The Gallegos and others who came and went there now must drive 40 miles west to the Tecate Port of Entry. It takes an hour and 15 minutes to get there and up to four hours to get back, they say.
“It’s just made everything different,” Raúl Gallego says. “It hasn’t done anything good for the community.”
Their separation has been painful. Some families still have their picnics. Those who live in Mexico sit on one side of the shoulder-high fence. Those who live in the United States sit on the other.

and so on…check out the source article, a lot more good stuff there…

Ya me voy,

al rato vatos.

(ps I mostly cribbed this from my comment at LSF, estoy muy occupado)

6. gong - 25 September 2006

Doesn’t use of the word “shrill” just mean that the speaker is an idiot?

CSTAR, “report” for “relatório”? (Just guessing based on your description, not a word I otherwise know.)

7. gong - 25 September 2006

Hmm, I was actually enjoying the blahhg-free post, but folks might enjoy this: kos trying to raise ad revenue to fund activist “fellows.” Of which apparently there are already two.

8. gong - 25 September 2006

Oh wow, the first comment on that thread is Del Dem saying, “Sometimes selling out is a good thing.” I couldn’t have come up with anything more perfect if I’d tried.

9. cactus ed - 25 September 2006

Enjoyed the “transparency” discussion on that thread. (Not really. Including kos’ non sequitur non-answer.) Looks like any time a commenter raises any internal question that could cause some discomfort, they get tagged a “concern troll.” Didn’t old Petey get banned for asking pretty much the same question?

10. Arcturus - 25 September 2006

sorry for the html screw-up

that’s an infuriating article, Tuston – appreciate the pointer.

I don’t wanna go near kos – did they call Chomsky anti-american yet?

Cstar: fyi, Chris Daniels’ site is no longer active, but some of his translations from Brazil are there, along with links to tons more.

from Levi’s Between the Eyes:

Most photojournalism and ‘social documentary’ photography originating in the United States begins from this assumption [what Pasolini “called the ‘new Fascism’ of consumerist conformism, namely, ‘the idea that the greatest ill in the world is poverty and that therefore the culture of the poorer classes must be replaced by the culture of the ruling class’]. The photographer operates as a distanced superior, ‘objective’ witness to war, poverty, labor, and exotic cultural practices in other parts of the world. There is a big market for this kind of photography. As Galeano notes: ‘Poverty is a commodity that fetches a high price on the luxury market.’ Photographs taken from this position may elicit pity, sorrow, or guilt in their viewers, but they will never provide information for change. They only work to reinforce the construction of the center, and the periphery; north and south, rich and poor, superior and inferior. It cannot be otherwise. As Salgado says: ‘You photograph with all your ideology.’ p. 45

It is not easy to look at these documents from the Sahel, but looking, one realizes how very different they are from other photographs of starving people in Africa. Whereas those other images end at pity or compassion, Salgado’s images begin at compassion and lead there to further recognitions. One of the first of these further recognitions is that starvation does not obliterate human dignity. . . . Salgado did not photograph passive victims and pity does not suffice” p. 48

11. marisacat - 25 September 2006

gong… I just took a look. seems the banner ad is for Mother Talkers. LOL Called a “mom club”.

Lordy. He has a PS that he will be taking it down after some Darfur ad is finsihed.

What little the page has going for it, sure gets thrown off by that ad.

Not that it matters. What a hoot.

He is like a restaurant squeezing in another table by the john – or in the line of the swing from the kitchen door.. Exactly the same.

12. cactus ed - 25 September 2006

Mother Talkers homepage
© 2005, Kos Media, LLC.


13. marisacat - 25 September 2006

yeah, it is the wif. Who chaired the “Feminist” panel at Ykos.

Enuf said.

14. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 September 2006

wow, those photos … amazing.

This one took my breath away:

the direct link is here if the hotlinked pic doesn’t work.

Great piece on the militarization of the border here:

Five years after the events of 9/11, this is what the war on terror looks like on the West Texas border. During a rare, prime-time television address to the nation in May, President Bush announced Operation Jump Start: the deployment of 6,000 Guard troops from San Diego to Brownsville, an increase in Border Patrol personnel from its current strength of 12,000 to 18,000, and “bringing the most advanced technology” to the border line, including the kind used in Afghanistan and Iraq: more infrared cameras, motion sensors, unmanned aerial vehicles. Because of rotations, the number of National Guard expected to serve on the border in the next two years will reach into the tens of thousands. Yet Bush insists, “The United States is not going to militarize the southern border.”

But the terror war here is not just marked by the coming of soldiers. It’s a campaign marked by elements of low-intensity conflict, or LIC. That is the same doctrine, codified during the Reagan administration, which shaped U.S. assistance to Central American countries in the 1980s. Areas were militarized to control local populations while insurgencies flared. There’s no insurgency here, but there are drug runners and unlawful immigrants. LIC includes military deployment, such as that of the Guard, and paramilitary presence, like the Minutemen, but it’s more. It’s a doctrine that blurs the lines between civilian and military, and between local and federal authorities. It’s a doctrine that calls for militarization in the name of national security, turns civilians into suspects, puts rights at risk, changes the air, uses fear as a tool of control.

15. CSTAR - 25 September 2006

Re: Relatório: Yes it’s a report. But it has an unsettling element (for me at least) because of this association to bureacracy — BTW it also rhymes with cartório which is a notary office. Brazil is full of these and at one time almost any official act had to be officialized at a cartorio.

One of the more intriguing aspects of bureaucracy inherited from the portuguese is an almost insane obsession to keep detailed records, despite their potential for incriminating perpetrators of state sanctioned crime. For example, the brazilian military kept detailed records of its political prisoners during the dictatorship of the 60s and 70s (military rule had essentially petered out by 1982, even though the handover to civilian rule didn’t happen until a few years later.)

There are enormous numbers of these records containing information about political prisoners which are slowly being released; there is this on recent progress (last two years) which I came across by googling. There is also this from the “movimento tortura nunca mais” which has being trying for years to document the use of torture in Brazil.

Gong: I didn’t get your remark about “shrill”.

16. gong - 25 September 2006

I never actually see the ads at dailykos because of some browser trickery. So I managed to avoid the actual display.

CSTAR, I meant that when X calls Y shrill, it usually means that X is an idiot. (I’m not sure it tells you anything much about Y.)

17. D. Throat - 25 September 2006

Is Bill Clinton pulling a Lewinsky in us… again?

…as in poor Bill is being attacked by those nasty Republicans again… let’s circle the wagons around to protect him and ignore the Republican-lite shit he is pulling again. I am of the belief had it not been for Lewinsky… Bill would not have been able to push as much of the republican shit he did while in office… everyone was UNITED fighting against “them”… while Bill was tirelessly destroying the Democratic Party.

I don’t know about you but I stopped reading the Wallace interview after the second time Bill emphatically proclaimed that he had “FAILED”. For a man who knows how to charm the pants off an Eskimo that was a glaring red flag of willful ignorance in political discourse.

But as clockwork… the wagontrains are repositioning… and there is sudden amnesia that this man just had Laura Bush headline his intitiative a few days ago….

18. D. Throat - 25 September 2006

opps… Freudian slip…”pulling a Lewinsky on us”

19. marisacat - 25 September 2006

I don’t know about you but I stopped reading the Wallace interview after the second time Bill emphatically proclaimed that he had “FAILED”. For a man who knows how to charm the pants off an Eskimo that was a glaring red flag of willful ignorance in political discourse.

yeah. Bingo. There is a piece over at TAPPED, Schaller I think. All about how Bill apologised and isn’t that great. And GWB does not and isn;t that horrid.

uh. No.

He has apologised a lot and hapless Dems love to prattle on about it. SOme damned liberal thing I guess… 😉

Meanwhile they, Billary, totally scrwed up year 1 and year 2. Year 3 too. And so on.

I am so tired of the Clintons I could die. And now choruses rise to sing their praises. Defend them. Miss the point.. and:

lose elections. Be nice if “A” figured out it leads to “B”.

… and that there is a lot more shit than there will ever be shinola in politics.

20. D. Throat - 25 September 2006

Bill covered Bush’s ass on Katrina making certain that Bush would never have to apologize… then he whines that they are being nasty to him…

BBC just had an interview with the real guy from hotel Rwanda. He talks about how Koffe and Bill refused to stopped the genocide and how he has already been invited TWICE in the past two years to the White House to meet one on one with Bush.

More power to them… whenever I see these things it just highlights that the Dems have absolutely NO GAME PLAN other than getting a few consultant very rich and appeasing their lobbyists. What has Rahm or Reid been working on the past two years to strengthen Democratic issues….NOTHING.

Rahm is interested only in making a name for himself and shows the typical DLC mentality of harrassing and attacking fellow Dems who want to build the party while lusting after republicans… the only shit Rahm has been able to come up with is the ever vanishing Fighting Dems… Reid is not even awake.

I was reading about the GOP gov candidate in Ma… every single newspaper states that the only why she can win is to make “sharp” differences between her and Patrick. It is not like this is rocket science… so one has to question why Bill, Hill, Rahm and Reid… instruct Dems to do the exact opposite…

They are setting it up to drag out the old DLC LOSING playbook again…. saddle up to GOP issues and then threaten the base to either put up or shut up… and of course LOSE AGAIN.

21. D. Throat - 25 September 2006

I am not interested in yet another… Clinton martyrdom….

22. marisacat - 25 September 2006

hmm. Bill had a few words over the weekend… in some interview (I am losing track, it all turns to congealing hush puppies… LOL) anyway Bill seems rather hot for the ”Fighting Dems”. Hilarious if you think about it.

But I think it all fell flat myself. And I heard MONTHS ago, the money was slow. Not a seller.

Made Kos happy tho. He was pushing and still linking to AAR spots on FD’s WHO HAD DROPPED BY THE WAYSIDE weeks before.

I mean, you start to wonder.

He talks about how Koffe and Bill refused to stopped the genocide and how he has already been invited TWICE in the past two years to the White House to meet one on one with Bush. – D Throat

The only thing that works between a sitting P and and a former P during election or tough times is “mutually assured destruction”.

I am CONVINCED the Dems have shot their wads. Or if they hold a card or two have no courage to play those cards. AND that on the other side, Rove has what he needs.

Also I hd a strong sense that elements of the government withdrew any possible support in ’04. Leaks, ones that were detrimental to Bush, were badly needed late summer and fall. There were none. Very noticeable.

23. D. Throat - 25 September 2006

That’s it… it was in the Wallace interview…..if all Bill can grasp onto as for as Democratic strategerie …is the now defunct “Fighting Dems”… then what’s left… that was already the bottom of the barrel.

BTW… caught a glimpse of Bill in a photo op talking in front of a group of Black men… I wondered if they were from Harlem…. it reminded me of Frist and his on call group of wandering minstrels that would show up for the opportune photo op… and then leave

24. spiderleaf - 26 September 2006

Oh the hero worship that is happening on the blogs now is sickening. And the wagon circling. I haven’t been participating much in US blogs because I really don’t see much of a point – the US empire is ending, time for us rest of the world to put in place a Plan B as far as I’m concerned. But anyway, stopped in at MLW where there is a fluff piece “Olbermann is on Fire!!!!” frontpaged with the resulting “oh wasn’t Bill a true man” and “Olbermann is the next Murrow” crap throughout it.

So of course I dare to mention two things that really stuck in my craw about Keith’s monologue and the claws come out.

Like, umm, Bill is now on the whole “well at least I tried to find Osama” garbage? Yeah, you tried alright by murdering children when you attacked a factory you KNEW was a pharmaceutical factory. Screw off and don’t rewrite history.

And did you catch Keith’s “the manliness we expect in the executive” bullshit? And of course now I’m the problem because I can’t just “understand what he meant and be happy he said Bush was bad”.

No, actually I can’t. I’m a LIBERAL. Not a Democrat, not a member of a cult. I can dislike Clinton AND be scared shitless of Bush. The two are not mutually exclusive. But now I’m narrowminded and I guess, a right winger. How freakin’ hilarious.

Even if I were right wing (you knew that about me right, m-cat? ;)) I’m Canadian for buddha’s sake and I’d STILL be to the left of the Clinton’s.

Ugh, why do I even bother to check these damn websites?

25. marisacat - 26 September 2006

hmm well back at the time of a FP splash on the Wapo … Easter Saturday… Billmon talked about the corruption of powerlessness. I think he alluded to Lord Acton.

He is right. Of course he got criticised as he did not credit Sloan Coffin who has written as well on what happens to people in the very, very slow lane.

I don’t think the Dems will be gaining majority any time soon.

Gerrymandering in the 90s. They helped with it. Could be buzzards are coming home to roost.

And you know, blogs brought us what, Kaine? Check! they claim him. Webb, check, they claim him. And hold on for the really big roller coaster: Lamont.
Whoop de doo.

SOOOOOOOOOOOO progressive.


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