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The squirrel kisses the poodle… in the shadow of the lion tamer 28 September 2006

Posted by marisacat in 2006 Mid Terms, 2008 Election, Big Box Blogs, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.

   Lion tamer 

ooo ugh.  Steny.  And gathering the “progressives” (including Waters and Lewis) to his bosom.  Honestly, I’d rather Murtha:

 Liberal House Democrats are not lining up behind Rep. Jack Murtha’s (D-Pa.) leadership candidacy in the numbers he had hoped despite his outspoken stance against the Iraq war.

Murtha’s failure to line up staunch opponents of the war could prove a blow to his hope of denying the majority leadership to Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (Md.) in the event of a Democratic takeover of the House in the 110th Congress.

Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.), a friend of Murtha who has been helping him with the race, said tepid support among some progressives was a worry to him. “It does concern you when people you think are going to be with you turn out not to be. Some of that’s cultural issues, guns and abortion,” he said. “But we still have the votes.” [snip]

Artur Davis, of whom Black Commentator is downright withering, is on board as well.  They are same wing of the party:  Biz Wing.  I don’t think all the wheezy prattles about abortion and guns is at issue.  At all.

I caught Murtha on C-span with some vets who are running for Congress.  What a different feel than the way Kos shoved them out and slobbered over them.  Very different. They were low key, salt of the earth men (and yes, all men, all white).  More than one, when asked by the press, dispensed harshly with how Kerry lost control of the SBVfT assault. Of course, Kos drifting over the line of what America is (was?) all about with his “only the military should criticise the military” and comments that those who serve are better than the rest of us was beyond offensive… Hello? fella?

So Hoyer it is to be I suppose (tho the article does leave it hanging).  Watch for Blahgs to trumpet and pummel naysayers.  With one or two acting as the foil.  It got old sometime ago.

But our bedrock matters less and less – so why do I care that Kos is very confused about civilian leadership of the military. 

Waste of my time to fuss as we hurtle onward:   Ivins on watching Habeas Corpus trail into the twilight of the arc of the nation.

[I]n another change, a clause said that evidence obtained outside the United States could be admitted in court even if it had been gathered without a search warrant. But the bill now drops the words “outside the United States,” which means prosecutors can ignore American legal standards on warrants.

The bill also expands the definition of an unlawful enemy combatant to cover anyone who has “has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States.” Quick, define “purposefully and materially.” One person has already been charged with aiding terrorists because he sold a satellite TV package that includes the Hezbollah network.

The bill simply removes a suspect’s right to challenge his detention in court. This is a rule of law that goes back to the Magna Carta in 1215. That pretty much leaves the barn door open.

As Vladimir Bukovsky, the Soviet dissident, wrote, an intelligence service free to torture soon “degenerates into a playground for sadists.” But not unbridled sadism—you will be relieved that the compromise took out the words permitting interrogation involving “severe pain” and substituted “serious pain,” which is defined as “bodily injury that involves extreme physical pain.”  [snip]

A good time to pop in Nicholas von Hoffman’s Howl: Snapshot of a Plutocracy:

[T]here are only nineteen billionaire manufacturers on the list, but there are twenty-five from the finance category. And how many billionaires in agriculture? There are seven, six of whom inherited their money. Forbes also has a category for food billionaires. There are twenty-five of them making or inheriting money from fast food (Chick-fil-A), candy, soft drinks, chewing gum and Campbell’s soup. All of that tells you something about America. The fact that there are sixteen health business billionaires, including the Frist family, tells you something else about America and the high cost of health insurance.

Some states are too poor, too dull, too much on the decline to harbor a billionaire. You won’t find one in New Mexico or North Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi. What about the states with one or two billionaires? Try Idaho, where the Simplot Family, with $3.2 billion in their sporran, rules. Do they practice droit du seigneur there? On the other hand, there are eighty-nine billionaires in California, enough perchance that they might have a falling out and, once divided, give the impecunious masses a chance to make their will known. However, even at the risk of sounding a trifle Marxist, there is such a thing as class solidarity, and if there ever were a class that had reason to band together and stick it to the rest of us, it is the billionaire class and its lesser millionaire allies.  [snip]

I do believe that v Hoffman is quietly saying they have taken over. Or taken the nation back from the brief (and wonderful) flutters of the Warren Court and some trails of populism, equality, real movement politics and efforts at small ”d” democracy…  And indeed they have.  With displays of largesse carried for days across all the network channels and cables.  Bow down. 

Thanks, my knees will take a pass.  As will my mind.

performing pastel-colored poodle,
in a clown and poodle show


A good time to slap Bill (it’s a metaphor!).  Well he is a bore.  But he is also Front and Center.  Still. 

SMBIVA snags some sloberation from the BBCSquirrel kisses Poodle

[A[t one point, speaking about the Clinton Foundation, created to tackle climate change, Aids and other global issues, he declared: “I found there was life after politics.”

All eyes immediately swivelled across the platform to examine Tony Blair’s expression for any sign of recognition or enthusiasm.

Perhaps this is what he has in mind when he finally closes the door of No 10. A Blair Foundation, perhaps even a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Clinton Foundation.

The world, not just Great Britain, would be his project.

As Mr Clinton kept suggesting, some things are just too big for national governments alone. What is needed is international partnership and non-governmental organisations working together.  [snip]

All a congealing wuss ball.  And Tony met extensively with hard core Repubs (from Arnold to George Shultz) when he was out here in California.  Everybody knew he was interviewing for “life after”. 

What fictions the parties have been.  All along.  A breath here or there, a moment.  So many have truly died for freedom in this country.  I think almost every day of the assassinations, not just the best known, but the many, thru out the Sixties. Of Kent State and the killings a little later at Jackson.

Bronwen Maddox in the Independent takes a cool, longer look at the Clinton liquifaction:

BILL CLINTON drew huge cheers from the Labour Party yesterday. The day before, Tony Blair, lecturing on the dangers of recoiling from the US, did not mention President Bush.

It is a delusion to pretend that Bush is a one-off villain, an aberration, from the country that so recently produced Clinton. In two years, the dream goes, he will be gone and we shall all be free to love America again.

That is a misunderstanding of the forces that produced Bush — and Clinton. True, Bush’s excessive decisiveness has produced a chaotic presidency. But his rise still says something important about the direction of US politics. To disregard that would be a recipe for perpetual disillusionment with his successors, Republican or Democrat, and for disappointment in America, which would be unjustified and destructive.

And this is just so cheering <sarcasm dripping from her mouth>.  I don’t have the links at hand, but ran into some soft slobber at MyDD yesterday about K Street come courtin’ some Democrats. It was presented as soft happy slurp at the Blahg.   Except I had read the article in The Hill.  It was the reverse.  Dems looking for campaign funding and shoveling out the promises…. (will hunt up both pieces).


UPDATE, 11:58 am

– Not on a Full Stomach –

I saw this roll up on the RSS feed from the Guardian‘s News Blog:  ”Big Dog’s Penis”.  I HAD to check.  Just a snip so if you do go read –there are photos as well… does not go well with lunch, tho maybe i am just queasy early in the day..  But it is representative of ‘cutting to the chase’ – and suits our militaristic future…

“Donkey,” says Nancy. “Good for the skin…”

She guides me round the penis platter.

“Snake. Very potent. They have two penises each.”

I did not know that.

I am rather glad I was not fully up on the fact that snakes have two.


Also snagged from the News Blog at The Guardian (oh those British wags):

For those who want more US-UK political hook ups, Matthew Engel’s sketch from the Labour conference for the Financial Times ponders that Mr Clinton would make an excellent successor to Tony Blair if there were a loophole that could get him into parliament. He has one clear advantage, Engel suggests:

With prime minister Clinton, Labour could be quite certain he would restore the cool, arm’s length relationship with the White House that the party craves – especially if Hillary does become president.

Might as well laugh.


UPDATE, 3:15 pm

Couple things from Laura Rozen’s War and Piece

Bolton may not be goners.  Sigh.  I guess no one should be surprised.  Bush wants what Bush wants:

We critics of John Bolton’s recklessly ineffective diplomacy have always known that his defeat in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee would likely be a symbolic victory. But now it appears that this administration could use its enlarged sense of presidential power to pay the salary of a man to represent the United States whom our Senate has failed to consent to twice.

And… she has some snips from a UK MoD document:

A British Ministry of Defense document obtained by the BBC reflects some of the grim analysis of recent US intelligence community reporting on Iraq and the global war on terror. Among the documents findings:

The Al Qaeda ideology has taken root within the Muslim world and Muslim populations within western countries. Iraq has served to radicalise an already disillusioned youth and Al Qaeda has given them the will, intent, purpose and ideology to act.

British Armed Forces are effectively held hostage in Iraq – following the failure of the deal being attempted by COS (Chief of Staff) to extricate UK Armed Forces from Iraq on the basis of ‘doing Afghanistan’ – and we are now fighting (and arguably losing or potentially losing) on two fronts.

The West will not be able to find peaceful exit strategies from Iraq and Afghanistan – creating greater animosity…and a return to violence and radicalisation on their leaving. The enemy it has identified (terrorism) is the wrong target. As an idea it cannot be defeated.

Gah.  I just read some halting gibberish from one of the Dem hopefuls for 08 – think it ws Warner, over Iraq … hesitant slobber about “finding a way out of Iraq”.

Shit honey.  Assemble facing North, South and West to Jordan, at the roads that go in those directions – while they are still navigable – and beat for the border like bats outta hell.

We are drowning.  And politicians just shuffle their feet, shift their eyes and mumble.  Don’t go war if your best move, your most practised stance is a long, deadly stumble.



1. Arcturus - 28 September 2006

the drama before all our eyes the dem’s apparatchiks won’t acknowledge:

business (& its politicians) trumps human rights, torture, war – whatever, really

concern for “the people”? puhlease . . .

humanity in arrears

new clear option

apocalyptic peace

2. TustonDAZ - 28 September 2006

Carnacki’s Kool Aid Revolt goes on…

Kagro X jumps in right away, dissembling…

I say bring back Dan the dickHeadinMI, farm woman’s soft touch just ain’t keeping the lemmings in the corral…

3. marisacat - 28 September 2006

well they pretty much have DemFromCT back in the saddle. He gets quoted a lot under the Dkos rubric over at Blogometer.

BTW, when I was shuffling thru June 2005 hunting in the blogometer archives I saw right off they used to link to and quote from a much wider selection of blogs then, as opposed to now.

Box up the medium. In effect, shut it down. Narrow the selection of voices…

And you know, I do wonder a bit at ”Unity 08”. I worry it is a snake in the very tall tangled grass for 08. Becasue it is not about “unity” it is about a conservative agenda, sold as a mixed ticket.

And Doug Bailey of the Hotline who was a communications guy under Ford, along with Ham Jordan and Rafshoon and other Carter era Dems are the so called movers and shakers.

Boring guys if you are worried about America’s future.

4. TustonDAZ - 28 September 2006

“Unity 08”, an expedited push for Real ID to come on line, the immenent revoking of Habeus, and some mangled NSA nightmare in november and its all over baby…


You never lived up to your promise

5. cactus ed - 28 September 2006

Carnacki did score a palpable hit:

“A front pager raised the issue that the conservatives did not quit. What he ignores is the leaders of the conservative movement fought losing battles for their conservative base to rally around.”

Cognitive dissonance is reaching critical mass. (Is that a mixed metaphor?)

6. cactus ed - 28 September 2006

Hey, how do y’all do those blockquote thingies?

7. marisacat - 28 September 2006

You know Tuston DH / MI was involved in the lauch (and i think it died) of an online so-called ”progressive congress”. Someone invited to join sent me the personal email that DH had sent to them. And one thing the email said was that they planned to ”verify” membership “beyond the credit card”. It was prjected to have a fee of 10 bucks, you put it on a credit card and whammo they had plans for that info.

Yech. I did not like the sound of taht. SOunded like a sham to collect identies of online people.

8. marisacat - 28 September 2006

cactus ed

[ blockquote ]

then at the close [ /blockquote ]

remove the spaces and instead of brackets [] use the little sideways arrows.

9. wu ming - 28 September 2006

i find it darkly heartening that, like roberts and alito, like the IWR, like the bankruptcy bill, etc. etc. ad nauseum, that the torture vote is giving people another stark look at exactly where the democratic party stands.

takes a couple times for people to accept it, but they do. there’s only so much FP herding that can happen before people refuse to buy it anymore. good to see carnaki come around.

10. NYCee - 28 September 2006

WHOOPS – rushing and formatted that last one all wrong.

One mo’ time (sorry, mcat)

Funny, before you put up this post, I had two things I wanted to throw down before I must go out…

And they are related, ie, Kerry+Vets and the $tate of the Democratic Party (again, times 3 – $$$!!!).

First, I wanted to say that THIS is why I never liked Paul Reiechkoff. I dont know if he was one of the vets with Murtha, but his blowhardy machismo and Ameriocentric views, embraced in blogs and on AAR when spouting about Iraq, was annoying to me. When he subbed for Malloy one night he went on about that loverlee small and all important window Bush slammed shut, just post invasion. He spoke for “all of us,” as Frankin does, “all Dems” wanted us to win this war once we were there, make a silk purse outta that sow’s ear… just do it right, dammit! Flowers and sweets to come if ya just use that golden PNACed window of opportunity right.

NO. I didnt want us to win, dammit. Not hypocritical, illegal, dangerous and dangerous precedent-setting, IMMORAL, preventive war. The Bush Doctrine and the PNAC plan would then be enshrined in gilded ‘positive’ outcome and put into overdrive, preventive war sanctified by the awed American public who would give it a stamp of approval as correct for America, just another foreign policy, and hey hey hey….proven to work! Look out nations of the ME, LA and who knows where else.

I actually tried to get thru – first time – to say this to radioland, but could not. Reichkoff, unlike Malloy, made screener make callers answer to another point he wanted to discuss.

Veteran, advisor claims Kerry campaign often ignored recommendations of veterans

09/28/2006 @ 11:02 am

Filed by Paul Rieckhoff

In Chasing Ghosts: A Soldier’s Fight for America from Baghdad to Washington, veteran, author and activist Paul Rieckhoff describes a small, closed-door meeting between Iraq vets and John Kerry in Minneapolis in the summer of 2004 — and the disconnect that followed.

At one point Kerry asked us all who we thought he should choose as his running mate. A few in the room mentioned John McCain. Rumors had circulated in the press for weeks about secret meetings between Kerry and McCain. Getting McCain to abandon Bush to run as Kerry’s VP would change history. Together they could beat Bush. But Kerry made it clear the McCain option was not on the table.

One vet suggested Senator Cleland. Max is a hero and role model to every veteran. After losing three limbs in Vietnam from a grenade explosion, he ran for and won a seat in the Georgia state senate, and then became the youngest head of Veterans Affairs (VA) in history. An incredibly effective advocate for veterans, Max introduced America’s first Vet Centers, revolutionizing VA care by providing vets with peer-to-peer counseling led by older combat vets. Max went on to be elected to the U.S. Senate. He was a guy with the most mojo I had ever been around.

But Max wouldn’t be Kerry’s choice either. Instead, Kerry asked us about Dick Gephardt. Everyone reacted tepidly. Then I proposed Wes Clark, arguing that in times of war, Americans trust a General. Generals project strength, which Democrats seriously needed. And Clark would bring in the most Independents and Republicans.

I came back from Minneapolis sorely disillusioned and angry. John Kerry was not the passionate activist he had been thirty years ago. He seemed like a good man, but over the decades in Washington had morphed into a calculating and coached politician.

A few weeks later, ignoring our advice, Kerry chose Senator John Edwards. Politics as usual.

He got the 2nd to last paragraph right, but the opener, the one on McCain, shows how fucking blinkered he is. Yeah, McCain, that’s the TICKET. I am also unimpressed with his other military-approved choices, for the most part, but the McCain love is off the charts sick. Was not an Edwards’ fan, but that doesnt mean I swing to Reichkoff’s position.

Next on Dem Mon(k)ey Busine$$…

11. NYCee - 28 September 2006
12. marisacat - 28 September 2006

oh I am not supportive of this idea that military vets will save the party. Or the nation. And I say USE Murtha. But he helped get us into this damned mess.

I leafed thru the sites for many o fthe vets Kos pushed. No thanks. There were spots of hope tho.

I am sorry to be rude but Duckworth is largely campaigning (and running her ads) on her war injuries. I am not taken in.

ANd Kerry, Max and others just fall apart in front of us. They don’t fight.

mil records, ranks, officer class, chest of ribbons and medals mean little.

I am thoroughly disinterested in the so called Rebellion of Generals. Bullfuckingshit.

Now when ti is TOO LATE? It is for them, CYA for history.

And Bacevich says the same… 😉

13. marisacat - 28 September 2006

ugh. ”New Democrat Coalition”?

I cannot keep up.

I think they Uber Triangulated. About 10 years ago.

14. cactus ed - 28 September 2006

Mange tak, marisacat!

15. marisacat - 28 September 2006

ugh. tapping their toes and waiting. I don’t agree with all in this.. Geraghty in the WashTimes. But some yes.

Is the ugly, messy, useless ugliness that the Blahgs have engaged in outside the mainstream of political scheisse. No, of course not. I just don’t SEE that it got us anything.

Nor did slamming Kaine two weeks before a tough election over pulling an ad over Gilliard’s blackface. (and Kaine is sure nto my candidate). Or the scheisse that came down agaisnt posters int he wake of Harlem 20. Ugly little set-to.

I always say over Rather v Gannon… I WANT A REMATCH.

Yet they point to Gannon as some great “get”. It was what it was. A prostitute in the WH press corps. And yes, go after him, but the losses at CBS (Rather) and CNN (jordan Eason) are much much bigger.

I had days I thought it (Gannon Guckert) was a Rove Joke on All of Us.


16. TustonDAZ - 28 September 2006

Farm Woman says its all of our faults that end-run around the Geneva Conventions will pass tomorrow:

A point to make about the politics wrought by the GOP. A filibuster wasn’t off the table for minority leadership, but they simply did not have the votes to beat cloture. That’s a failure on all our parts. We could not have imagined back when Hamdan was handed down that the resulting legislation would be as devestating as it is. That was a filure of imagination on all our parts. We could have been working for the past several months on building support and pressure in the Democratic caucus to do the right thing. We didn’t.

Yeah, nobody could have imagined that the GOP Congress would give Bush whatever cover he asked for and the mewling zombie Reid couldn’t be bothered to even shift in his coffin…

I know some folks have a lack of imagination, (esp. Farm woman, that fountain of simpleness, the paragon of puerile) but my god, they must be idiots to believe anyone would buy that shyte…

17. marisacat - 28 September 2006

Gonna be blood in the Dem halls of small insignificant power.

All the great battles came – and went. And Blahhgers excused and apologised – and LIED about – the failures.

Fuck them.

18. Arcturus - 28 September 2006


now what?

19. Madman in the Marketplace - 28 September 2006

wow, Carnaki, off the bus.

I mean, a little hope, only far too late.

20. wu ming - 28 September 2006

it’s never too late, IMO. we’ll have to pick up the pieces of this country no matter how bad it gets, so the more open eyes we’ve got as we face that, the better.

21. CSTAR - 28 September 2006

Demoralization has come more quickly than I expected. What can I say? What can anyone say…

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