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The Terror 14 November 2006

Posted by marisacat in 2006 Mid Terms, Border Issues, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Israel/AIPAC, The Battle for New Orleans.

  Beit Hanoun 3 July 2006
           An Isreali blind near Beit Hanoun 3 July 2006

From Uri Avnery via Alternet:

 [O]lmert boasted recently that because of the clever behavior of his government “we were able to kill hundreds of terrorists, and the world has not reacted.”

According to Olmert, a “terrorist” is any armed Palestinian, including the tens of thousands of Palestinian policemen who carry arms by agreement with Israel. They may now be shot freely. “Terrorists” are also the women and children, who are killed in the street and in their homes. (Some say so openly: The children grow up to be terrorists, the women give birth to children who grow up to be terrorists.)

Olmert can go on with this, as he says, because the world keeps silent. Today the United States even vetoed a very mild Security Council resolution against the event. Does this mean that the governments throughout the world — America, Europe, the Arab world — are accessories to the crime at Beit Hanoun? That can best be answered by the citizens of those countries.

   Beit Hanoun after shelling 11.7 [Getty ]
Palestinian men gathered next to water stained with blood after Israeli tanks fired on homes in Beit Hanoun, Gaza.  [Getty photo/NYT]

The world did not pay much attention to the massacre, because it happened on U.S. election day. The results of the election may sadden our leaders more than the blood and tears of mothers and children in the Gaza strip, but they were glad that the election diverted attention.

A cynic might say: Democracy is wonderful, it enables the voter to kick out the moron they elected last time and replace them with a new moron.

But let’s not be too cynical. The fact is that the American people have accepted, after a delay of three years and tens of thousands of dead, what the advocates of peace around the world — including us here in Israel — were saying already on the first day: that the war will cause a disaster. That it will not solve any problem, but have the opposite effect.

As for this last… well, we hope.  Leave it at that for the moment…

Of course, in both new houses of Congress, the pro-Israeli lobby (meaning: the supporters of the Israeli Right) has a huge influence, perhaps even more than in the last ones. But the American Army will have to start leaving Iraq. The danger of another military adventure in Iran and/or Syria is much diminished. The crazy neoconservatives, most of them Jews who support the extreme Right in Israel, are gradually losing power, together with their allies, the crazy Christian fundamentalists.

We hope…

  Beit Hanoun [NYT]

Via Electronic Intifada, Pinochet in Palestine

[T]he plan is that the Fateh/PA rulers would do their utmost to provoke Hamas to start the war at which point Fateh, with the aid of the intelligence services of friendly Arab countries, as well as assistance from Israel and the US, would crush Hamas and take over. Indeed, the first unsuccessful round took place when the Israeli government kidnapped a third of the Hamas government, both cabinet ministers and parliament members, and placed them in Israeli jails. This was not sufficient to bring Hamas down, and not for lack of help that Fateh rendered the Israeli occupiers. …  Hamas however, is wisely adamant that it will respond by force only when Fateh launches an all-out war to bring about its planned coup, but not before.

Fateh’s planned coup is not only based on the popularity of Hamas and its electoral victory but also on Hamas’s increased ability to defend itself against Fateh forces. If the US and Israel armed Fateh thugs under Arafat’s leadership to crush the first Palestinian Intifada and any remaining resistance to the occupation since 1994, today, Hamas is almost as well- armed as Fateh forces and can defend the rights of the Palestinians to resist the Israeli occupation and the well-armed Palestinian collaborators that help to enforce it. This is where the situation today differs measurably from that of the mid-1990s.

To offset this new balance of forces, the United States government, according to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, has been training Abbas’s Praetorian Guard in Jericho for over a month with American, British, Egyptian, and Jordanian military instructors, and is providing arms to them in preparation for the confrontation with Hamas.

The Israeli cabinet in turn has recently approved the transfer of thousands of rifles from Egypt and Jordan to Abbas’s forces. The Israelis also approved a US request that Israel allow the Badr Brigade — part of the Palestine Liberation Army currently stationed in Jordan — to deploy in Gaza.  [snip]

The writer is clearly pro Hamas, I am not arguing for Hamas, being too far away to argue for anything… but merely say what matters:  that the people have a chance.


What of poor Habeas?  Shall anyone elected, in any cycle, dare speak its name?

WASHINGTON – Immigrants arrested in the United States may be held indefinitely on suspicion of terrorism and may not challenge their imprisonment in civilian courts, the Bush administration said Monday, opening a new legal front in the fight over the rights of detainees. […]

Ali Saleh Kahlah Al-Marri, a citizen of Qatar, was arrested in 2001 while studying in the United States. He has been labeled an “enemy combatant,” a designation that, under a law signed last month, strips foreigners of the right to challenge their detention in federal courts.

That law is being used to argue the Guantanamo Bay cases, but Al-Marri represents the first detainee inside the United States to come under the new law. Aliens normally have the right to contest their imprisonment, such as when they are arrested on immigration violations or for other crimes.

“It’s pretty stunning that any alien living in the United States can be denied this right,” said Jonathan Hafetz, an attorney for Al-Marri. “It means any non-citizen, and there are millions of them, can be whisked off at night and be put in detention.”  [snip]

 We all can sense that “enemy combatant” and “terrorist” are the active words… “citizen” is getting hazy.

We conjure up horrors and somehow in the conjuring we do not deal wtih our very real, very great problems…

Nightmares, boogeymen, who’s the invader [really], endless television promotion of sexual predators, “stranger abduction” – but no one will talk of familial violence and murder – not really… easy to get lost in the illusions… Better to fix on the immigrant, the masked, the bearded…

   Max Schreck as Nosferatu 1922


The many Americas… certainly more than two, but mis-managed!  That great buga-boo of modern America, that carpet we sweep everything under:  management

And note the corporations at issue, the same mis-management as Iraq!  Hardly news…

One thing I don’t want to see in a year or two, is some Gridiron or Washington Correspondents dinner with a Democrat poking around the edges of the carpeting in Congress searching for the missing, never showed up, never was to be OVERSIGHT.

   [O]ther corporations profiting off the devastation include Bechtel, Blackwater, CH2M Hill, Fluor, Halliburton subsidiary KBR and many others.

    There has been no real oversight of these misdeeds. The only criminal charges filed have been against individuals who ripped off programs for a couple of hundred or a few thousand dollars.

Most recently, the Department of Justice triumphantly announced to the press that they had issued an indictment for abuse of Katrina funds – of a man who illegally received Katrina unemployment benefits while still working! Meanwhile, hundreds of millions are being diverted without a peep from the government.

    The people of New Orleans and the Gulf coast are fighting against the robbing of the poor and the looting of hurricane relief funds, but the clock is ticking.

    Before long, there will be no money left. The generosity of those who contributed to help those harmed by Katrina will be snugly in the pockets of developers and corporations. Affordable housing will remain scarce. The working poor, the elderly and the disabled will remain displaced. The next disaster will occur, and this will happen again.

    Support the people and community organizations of the Gulf Coast in this fight. Raise righteous and holy hell! Join with Amnesty International USA in the human rights campaign to stop the demolition of affordable housing. Ask your federal elected officials for an immediate investigation into the looting of the Gulf Coast. We need your help, before all the money is gone. [snip]

War profiteers, disaster profiteers.  Ghoulish, is it not?


MIS-management!  More of it…

Curmudgette is back around…

[W]hat is new, and I why I think America is dumbening is that no one seems to notice or care anymore that everything works like crap. What amazed me more than anything about my laborious conversations with Verizon was the seeming astonishment of the customer service reps that I was, how say, dissatisfied, at being forced to wait for 3 weeks for phone service through no fault of my own. Gone are the days when the customer was always right and sales people cared about your business. Today’s service industries are typified by a prevailing sense that they are entitled to your money and a customer’s unhappiness with either product or service is his problem.

It almost doesn’t surprise me that Verizon reps seemed shocked by my lack of complacency. Complacency has become the hallmark of  American culture. Now, I’m as thrilled as anyone that Dems have taken back both houses of Congress and it truly gives me hope, but look at just how bad things had to get for the tide to turn. Torture scandals, the loss of habeas corpus, unauthorized wiretaps, open cronyism, an illegal war; this litany of criminal offenses goes on. But what finally turned public opinion en masse? The lesson for today is that if you want to create massive political shift in this country, a President publicly shredding the Constitution is not enough. What you really need are some good sex scandals. Not just any sex scandals either. They have to be GAY sex scandals.  [snip]

Yes, when things look bad, keep an eye out for the wagging weenies… 😉


…then listen for the Echo – from Who is IOZ on Blahhger foot stamping…:

[I] ask myself: How well-attended will the next antiwar march on Washington be, what with the Dems happily jiggering the levers of power? Within the next few months, the Democratic party line will move along to smarter fighting, better occupation, more troops, timelines for those backwards Iraqis to get their shit in order. The firebreathing “antiwar” democratic blogs, meanwhile, will make like Echo and repeat the party line, since dissent might lead in two years to defeat. Like Echo, they’re cursed by their own idolatrous longings.

And who do you suppose that makes the Dems, you mythologists?


UPDATE, 7:45 am on the Pacific Ocean…

I am listening to Shadegg on Wash Journal, he is running for Minority Whip… and happy to mention the Blue Dogs.  That an incoming member of the BD assured him more than few ”do not agree with their leadership”… and Shadegg goes on to how important it will be to work with the Blue Dogs.

Boll Weevils, I say again…. 😉


Digby [thanks to Madman] takes a look at the recent The Nation article on the Quiverfulls… crazed Christian Breeders… and he centers on the Phillip Longman/DLC/reach out aspect of the article.

Holy fuck, indeed. This kind of thinking has finally gone mainstream and is fully integrated into the debate among influential Democrats. Granted, Longman’s advice to the DLC was to embrace “family friendly” policy but as you can see from his comments, in order to truly embrace these undereducated “Quiverfull” nuts whom everyone thinks need to be part of the Big Tent (birthing and cleaning after everyone apparently)the agenda is going to have to expand significantly. We are already seeing the argument going beyond abortion and extending into the birth control realm.

I am laughing as Digby seems to get it, some tents are too big.  To say nothing of too too Drahmatic… 😉

I had posted on the Phillip Longman, etc., at the tag end of this post




1. cactus ed - 14 November 2006

Hmm …

Finally, I’m not afraid of money, and I’m putting it to good use — the abandonment of Scoop and a massive ground-up redevelopment of Daily Kos to be the ultimate blogging platform in the world, and the establishment of a corps of “fellows” to do great activism.

More details on those projects will emerge in December, but bottom line is that I won’t cry if Chevron or anyone else wants to help fund the rise of a professional netroots activist class.

Kaus comments.

2. marisacat - 14 November 2006

Oh that is so cute! Pique oil? Anyone? Cookie, little girl?


3. D. Throat - 14 November 2006

Hmmm…. someone got a windfall from K street... and the fact that he prefaced his little manifesto by acknowledging that he WILL be taking monies from unsavory unprogressive conservative characters... [for folks that shunned “framing’ he is getting as good as the GOP at framing shit into sugar] but this not surprising for Kos this was always strictly biddness.. and in politics creeps have more money. [Still waiting for Meteor Blades expose on Prop 87]

Just like his mentor Simon Rosenberg who happily takes monies from Koch Industries (right wing fundie kooks)… and in return Rosenberg promotes a “progressive” revolution of highly selected and screened pro war, pro business, anti choice (in other words GOP) candidates …

Notice that Kos alreadys gives a nod to Schumer staying on as DSCC chair when it has already been noted that Schumer has been asked to stay on to ensure that the party does not swing to the left… as so many GOP seats will be in play in 2008.

As much as they have complained that Rahm was hogging all of the limelight… I still do NOT see where Netrootz Inc. played a pivital role…. They only collected 1.5 million and 40 thousand of that went to themselves… [Dean did this in a couple of hours during the primaries].

IMHO… I think that Netrootz Inc. was toxic to Lamonts campaign… they acted like the stereotypical loud mouth elitist outsiders that came to town to tell the local yokels that they knew best… [the Lamont as with Kos… was the absolute WORST idea of any campaign… who the hell in Ct knew who Kos was… for a guy who claims to but out side crashing the gates… that was a typical insiders exclusive cliche ego trip] no different than … Rahm parachuting in with Duckworth over Cegelis… perhaps they were both good candidates…. but they both pissed off the local base…. and both lost.

Also note that Kos and Co have changed the name of their fundraising arm “Netroots Candidates” to “Blue Majority”… least anyone confuse them with any sort of transparency or democratic processes…

One of the complaints people had about the “Netroots” Actblue page is that — run by three sites — it really wasn’t representative of the whole Netroots. Point taken. The MyDD/SSP/Daily Kos Actblue page has been re-christened as the “Blue Majority” page.

…. basically they are saying STFU we pick the candidates not the NETROOTS… got it.

4. D. Throat - 14 November 2006

that should have read: the Lamont ad with Kos

5. TustonDAZ - 14 November 2006

Caza-migrantes or migrant hunters have a long history in desert southwest, and are generally ignored by the authorities unless their “activities” come to the attention of the general public…of course caza-migrantes better make sure their targets are mojados and not Americans of a darker tint:

BISBEE — Local rancher and prominent anti-illegal-immigration figure Roger Barnett is back in Superior Court today to face charges in a civil suit accusing him of threatening a hunting party with an assault rifle.

The scope of the case, however, extends well beyond a confrontation between hunters and an irate landowner. It is the second local suit against Barnett sponsored by the Border Action Network, a Tucson-based civil rights group that has long accused Barnett of abusing the illegal immigrants he detains on his Douglas ranch. And while the plaintiffs in both suits have been U.S. citizens, the BAN says the incidents represent a larger pattern of racially motivated vigilantism and abuse that has gone unpunished by local authorities.

In the trial beginning today, Douglas resident Ronald Morales alleges that Barnett threatened him and his hunting party, which included three young girls, with an AR-15 assault rifle after Barnett accused them of trespassing on his ranch on Oct. 30, 2004.

Morales, a six-year U.S. Navy veteran, says that Barnett used racist insults against the hunters, all of whom were Americans of Mexican decent, and threatened to shoot and kill them if they didn’t leave the property.

But Morales says the property was state trust land leased by Barnett, which made it permissible for him to hunt there. He sued for $200,000 in damages for assault, battery, false imprisonment, negligence, gross negligence and intentional infliction of emotional distress.


Barnett’s supporters say he has been forced into a defensive posture by a broken border policy that has seen tens of thousands of illegal immigrants pour across his ranch over the past decade, leaving behind litter, cut fences and broken water pumps.

The civil suits against Barnett, say folks like local anti-illegal-immigration activist Cindy Kolb, constitute a political crusade by outsiders with little sensitivity to the plight of border residents.

“It’s the federal government’s job to secure the border at the Barnett’s fence, and they have put him in this position,” Kolb said. “And those groups who are suing are taking full advantage of it for their own publicity — and to try to get more donations.”

One piece of evidence that BAN attorney Jesus Romo Vejar will have to forgo, however, is a stack of Sheriff’s complaints detailing Barnett’s alleged abuses of illegal immigrants.

During the Mackenzie trial, Romo Vejar made repeated reference to the documents and their contents, though he never entered them into evidence. Judge James Conlogue has already forbidden Romo Vejar from referencing or presenting during the Morales trial, unless they are needed to challenge witness testimony.


Barnett has testified before Congress about illegal immigration and become a nationally known figure for his personal efforts to capture illegal border-crossers. During the Mackenzie trial, he estimated he had made citizen’s arrests of more than 12,000 illegal immigrants since 1996.

Sierra Vista Herald

I hope the mother fucker goes broke paying damages…

6. D. Throat - 15 November 2006


I guess too busy taking cutain calls to finish the job… look who is left to care of congressional candidates left out in the wilderness to fend for themselves…

7. D. Throat - 15 November 2006

Fifty-state is a good thing to do, but it didn’t help us in this election,” said Mr. Schumer. “My only disagreement with Howard is that he should help us fund taking back the majority, because it would make a difference with things like the Supreme Court.

8. D. Throat - 15 November 2006

Fifty-state is a good thing to do, but it didn’t help us in this election,” said Mr. Schumer. “My only disagreement with Howard is that he should help us fund taking back the majority, because it would make a difference with things like the Supreme Court.

Two faced Chuck strikes again…

Tonight on “Real Time” with Bill Maher(HBO), NY senator Chuck Schumer credited Howard Dean’s 50 state plan as being instrumental in the democrats victory.

9. NYCee - 15 November 2006

I saw that on Real Time. He is a creep. Two faced is right.

Dean is too democratic for them, I guess. Loose cannon. Cant control the populist masses once they get up and running, and he seems to trust them too much. May conflict with who you are running. He/SHE who MUST win. That one.

Btw, saw the piece on Webb’s populist economic rhetoric on Kos.

Dont know if you voted for him or not, JJB (I recall your quandry), but it looks like you (we) could have done a lot worse, considering the mealy mouthiness on economic issues of many of our DLCed.

His past GOPpiness and comments, such as his scorn for McGovern, have given me pause, but people can change, people can have areas of growth in their views … He underwhelmed me in the debate.

He’s a wait and see, but he may prove to be a positive. He certainly, thus far, does not seem to be a “run for the mousehole” type. If he stands his ground, truly and strongly for the working people, going deeper and farther than min wage and no tax cuts for the wealthy, then he sets a much needed example in the GOPped Shop of the big D tent.

I may be wrong but I am waiting to see what’s up with him.

10. CSTAR - 15 November 2006

The customer is always right? It’s more like punch the customer in the face. Talking about punching in the face (this time itś not customers or latinos, but arabs) see this article on the non-death of the neocons

about Saddam’s WMD, but those were secondary to the Bush administration’s desire to smash the pathological Arab-Muslim world in the face (any face would do, and Saddam’s was handy) and teach it a lesson it would never forget. Pro-war New York Times pundit Thomas Friedman summed up the neoconservative motivation for invading Iraq succinctly: a “terrorism bubble” had built up in the Arab-Muslim world, and we were going to burst it.

11. JJB - 15 November 2006


Yes, I did vote for Webb. Couldn’t pass up the opportunity to help send a piece of human garbage like George Allen down the disposal. I also scared the hell out of some GOPerative outside my polling station by barking “NO!” to his offer of a sample ballot. I’m ashamed to admit that felt really good, he backed off very sheepishly.

Just checked out that piece on Webb you mention, it is good to hear someone other than John Edwards make this argument. Of course, many a populist was also a racist and nativist, so the political tradition is not without its negative aspects. I notice that Webb doesn’t pass up a chance to blame the poor economic standing of many Americans on “a vast underground labor pool from illegal immigration” in the same sentence in which he condemns globalization and outsourcing. That’s like putting cancer and AIDS in the same sentence with the common cold as life-threatening health scourges.

BTW, I wonder if Delaware Dem will declare that Webb is a communist, as he did with Edwards early in 2006.

12. cactus ed - 15 November 2006

IOZ weighs in on Markos’s “professional” Netroots® “activists” –

Well give the Donkle his due: in Markos the Party has its perfect empty vessel, a hack who by his own admission doesn’t much give a damn about the politics of the candidates he advocates for office, so long as they call themselves Democrats.

Kevin Drum also speaks:

Think of it as the talk radio-ization of the political blogosphere.

13. marisacat - 15 November 2006

ooo cactus ed that is a good one from IOZ [emphasis is mine]:

Markos Moulitas is going to create a Republican think tank, but for Democrats:

a corporate-funded talking-points producer with “fellows” (the quotation marks are Kos’ hisselfs) cranking out Dem-friendly “research” that’s long on pull quotes and short on footnotes. He says it plain as day.
It’s part of the long Democratic obsession with so-called movement conservativism, their belief that their ongoing electoral weakness was the result of a vast plan, hatched in a sort of American Conservative Wansee Conference with Barry Goldwater playing the role of a very dumb Reinhard Heidrich, in which the institutions of a final conservative victory were created, the seeds planted, the framing framed, and so on and so forth.

14. marisacat - 15 November 2006

Check the opening and closing grafs.
… and one commenter fully gets it:

Re: Open Thread: Sponsor Appreciation Edition (none / 0)
C’mon, side banners are one thing; I understand that you need to make a living. But posting a blog-entry advertisement just seems so . . . unbloglike. What’s next, pop-up ads?
by rexus on Wed Nov 15, 2006 at 10:16:02 AM EST

My guess on the pop up ads.. coming soon. To a conservative think tank with tabloid back up and fellows, senior and otherwise. Oh and cafes too… 😉 Kos the softer gentler evangeliser… sorta like Rick Warren. Just as problematical but those Hawaiian shirts soften the blow.
Congealing fuckball, imo.
Rather like Obama out with Brownback, TD Jakes and Rick Warren (NYT yesterday) about World AIds. Oh yeah really.

15. D. Throat - 15 November 2006

How many faces does this man have?

Your efforts, combined with the DNC’s 50-state strategy, is creating a political environment that is one of the best Democrats have seen in decades. Our bench of candidates is growing, our state parties are becoming stronger, and our prospects for growing our majority look brighter everyday.

16. marisacat - 15 November 2006


I can’t be bothered to open the thread but it is at 514 now. Did they crawl in on their tiny knees… like at Lourdes? LOL

17. marisacat - 15 November 2006


Bennie Thompson (D-MS) on Wash Journal spining for RealID… in response to a caller who asked why the Dems are lining up behind this when historically they took a stance against mandatory universal ID. …yeah once upon a time they did, but it was an early component of the Clinton spin for health care… of course I never bought they were so much for that… handy TP tho and they thought a platform for HIlGirl. Not so much as it turned out, a platform I mean.

He played it very innocent too. All emphasis on needing ID for incoming.


18. D. Throat - 15 November 2006

Of course!!

Thank you, Senator (36+ / 0-)

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I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

But seriously, you need look no further than Virginia to see what we can do together. If you’re so inclined, however, you can also look to Montana.

Great job on getting back the Senate. I didn’t think we were going to be able to pull that one off.

“I have a philosophy about elections. I believe issues divide and values unite.”–Gov. Brian Schweitzer

by mcjoan on Wed Nov 15, 2006 at 08:14:34 AM PST

Thanks (39+ / 0-)

Let’s repeat our synergy in many more states in 2008.

by Chuck Schumer on Wed Nov 15, 2006 at 08:16:59 AM PST

[ Parent ]
Idaho!!! (10+ / 0-)

We’re going to get Idaho in ’08. I can feel it!

“I have a philosophy about elections. I believe issues divide and values unite.”–Gov. Brian Schweitzer

by mcjoan on Wed Nov 15, 2006 at 08:18:11 AM PST

[ Parent ]
Ahem (3+ / 0-)

Grant over Craig!

Well, maybe not top tier.

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by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Nov 15, 2006 at 08:20:51 AM PST

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You are the shit Mr. Schumer (11+ / 0-)

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I can’t wait until you expand the majority even more in 08 (the presidency would be nice too 🙂

If the Republicans promise to stop telling lies about us, maybe we’ll stop telling the truth about them..

by Romaniac on Wed Nov 15, 2006 at 08:15:16 AM PST

That’s a good thing Senator (15+ / 0-)

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by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Nov 15, 2006 at 08:17:06 AM PST

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Thanks… (57+ / 0-)

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…for setting the record straight. I was a little worried.

by Chuck Schumer on Wed Nov 15, 2006 at 08:19:20 AM PST

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Thank you for your work (3+ / 0-)

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and thanks for stopping by our humble little corner of the web.

“I worry a great deal about the future of democracy in America”
– President of St. Lawrence University Daniel Sullivan at Commencement 2004

by Team Slacker on Wed Nov 15, 2006 at 08:16:51 AM PST

THANK YOU CHUCK (126+ / 0-)

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Cut n Run… to Mars… Ma Bitches

by Steven R on Wed Nov 15, 2006 at 08:03:52 AM PST

If you had supported Ned Lamont (75+ / 43-)

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you wouldn’t have to “Keep Joe in Line”.

So no thanks!
We don’t love you!

by mombadanes on Wed Nov 15, 2006 at 08:11:06 AM PST

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Nice. (95+ / 0-)

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I knew someone would do this. I didn’t think they would take the number 2 spot on the comments, though. A little class goes along way.

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by scorponic on Wed Nov 15, 2006 at 08:12:55 AM PST

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19. D. Throat - 15 November 2006

The timing is questionable… sounds like a Good Cop v Bad Cop routine amongst Hilliary’s fellas….

Carville Says Dems Should Dump Dean over “Rumsfeldian” Incompetence

By Scott Shepard | Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 12:00 PM

Democratic strategist James Carville says his party should dump Howard Dean as chairman of the Democratic Party because of incompetence.

Carville, during coffee and rolls with political reporters today, said Democrats could have picked up as many as 50 House seats, instead of the nearly 30 they have so far.

The reason they didn’t, he said, is the Democratic National Committee did not spend some $6 million it could have put into so-called “third tier” House races against vulnerable Republicans.

Carville said the other Democratic campaign committees had borrowed to the hilt.

He said he tried to meet with Dean to argue for additional spending for Democrats in the final days of the campaign, but Dean declined and gave no reason why.

Asked by a reporter whether Dean should be dumped, Carville replied, “In a word, do I think? Yes.”

He added, “I think he should be held accountable.” He added, “I would describe his leadership as Rumsfeldian in its competence.”

Carville likened the Democratic takeover of Congress to the civil war battle at Gettysburg, which the Union army won but failed to pursue the Confederate army when it retreated.

“We should have chased them down,” Carville said. There was no immediate response from Dean or the DNC.

This is no accident and it is targetted… Schumer is just making sure that the shit doesn’t fly back on him…

20. marisacat - 15 November 2006

ya know.. the whole Lieberman thing from start to non finish (there is a whole new set of “hate Lieberman” on just about everywhere) indicated how little insight into their supposed party the BLogSnots actually have.

Lieberman now really does have increased leverage… and yet they shake their little blue stained fingers at him. The Dems who welcomed him back (and Feigold as well greeted him very happily in a small presser with Collins that Joe joined late) really do mean it. Lieberman has consistently raised big/biggish money and consistently spread it ot the downticket in CT and elsewhere.

The Club.

meanwhile Jean Schmidt is returning as is Pryce (4th in leadership). Two who should have fallen in a sweep. And Shays… Spotty in Ohio, FL and so on.

LOL Not frying the cat.. 😉

21. D. Throat - 15 November 2006

As convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff reported to federal prison today, a source close to the investigation surrounding his activities told ABC News that Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) was one of the members of Congress Abramoff had allegedly implicated in his cooperation with federal prosecutors.

the plot thickens….

If Reid goes down then perhaps he can be replaced by Carter!!!!

22. D. Throat - 15 November 2006

What is so sad is that they all agreed not to impeach Bush… so now Dem leadership will be impeached…

23. marisacat - 15 November 2006

Well Abramoff will have to have supplied new information, completely beyond what has come out. Which was, iirc, about 122K from various entities around Abramoff.

The real problem with Reid is that he is obstinate. Then he gets angry over being hemmed in, found out, called out… and lets loose iwth commentary that Blahhgers spin as great opposition.

Gets old.

So, let’s hear what Abramoff said… “Bring it on”… 😉

24. marisacat - 15 November 2006

Stop Me Before I vote Again has a good post on the Lieberman issues… 😉

For example, as happy pwog Nathan Newman observed, undermining his own case in a post quoted here a few days ago,

“In 1981, Ronald Reagan was able to control the agenda in Congress because 67 Boll Weevil Democrats essentially caucused with the GOP.”

Examples could be multiplied, but you see the way the scam works; the pwogs watch helplessly as the aisle-crossers keep the ship of state listing to starboard.

Lieberman may be crazy, but he’s not stupid, and True Believer pwog dems would do well to heed his wise advice about the dog.

25. marisacat - 15 November 2006

source close to the investigation says Abramoff told prosecutors that more than $30,000 in campaign contributions to Reid from Abramoff’s clients “were no accident and were in fact requested by Reid.”

Abramoff has reportedly claimed the Nevada senator agreed to help him on matters related to Indian gambling.

The Associated Press reported earlier this year that Reid wrote at least four letters helpful to the tribes that had contributed money to his campaign.

Reid has denied there was any connection between the letters and the contributions and has said he is a longtime opponent of certain kinds of Indian reservation gambling.

There is more…

The AP reported that Reid acknowledged “routine contacts” with Abramoff’s lobbying partners and intervening to block rival tribal casinos.

The AP also reported that Abramoff’s billing records showed extensive contact with Reid’s office over a three-year period in which Reid collected more than $68,000 from Abramoff’s firm, partners and clients.

[I think that is new info, or newly released – MCat]

Prosecutors have said that Abramoff’s cooperation is essential to the corruption investigation, but, so far, they have brought only one prosecution against a member of Congress connected to Abramoff, Republican Bob Ney of Ohio, who resigned.

The source said prosecutors do not intend to rely solely on Abramoff’s account of events, and his allegations against Reid and others will not necessarily result in criminal charges.

Sources close to the federal investigation say Abramoff has offered testimony about his contacts with “six to eight seriously corrupt Democratic senators” and an ever larger number of Republican members of Congress.

In addition to Reid, the sources say Abramoff has been most closely questioned about his contacts with Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.), who was defeated in last week’s election.

From ABC’s The BLotter

26. TustonDAZ - 15 November 2006

A little something recent on Real ID:

Warning to all New Mexico residents: After May 11, 2008, come prepared when you renew your driver’s license. Find your original Social Security card and your original birth certificate and one more piece of identity proof, and hope there isn’t any variation in your name – William, Will, Bill. Make sure you have the legal documents that verify any name changes.

Oh, yes, and bring your checkbook. Proposed new licenses or ID cards may cost two to three times more than they do today – unless the federal government puts its money where its mouth is.

Because the act was attached to a vital supplemental spending bill for defense and tsunami relief in 2005 – HR 1268, PL 109-13 – there was no opportunity for a full examination of the consequences of the proposal.

By enacting the Real ID Act, the federal government has gotten into the business of designing secure driver’s licenses and identification cards and telling the states what has to be done to ensure that security.

While everyone recognizes the need to make identifying documents as secure as is humanly possible, the one-size-fits-all approach required by the act may actually increase the documents’ vulnerability to counterfeiting. If the wrong people are able to crack into one state’s system, they may have access to all states’ systems.

With the deadline for compliance with the Real ID Act a little more than 18 months away, New Mexico continues to wait for Real ID regulations to be released by the federal Department of Homeland Security. We need to know what is expected so that we can make more accurate estimates of the costs. I can only speculate about the requirements and the potential costs of this unfunded federal mandate.

Albuquerque Tribune
Its funny that most people “against” real ID are upset about “unfunded mandates” but the thought that without this Orwellian device (complete with biometric data on RFED’s) will be a requirement of citizenship, and without it the “unidentified person” goes to Immigration court, not REAL court, should scare the bejesus out of everyone…

27. marisacat - 15 November 2006

My Cal ID which I got kicking and screaming a few years ago… I really felt I had enough ID… and I mever pay by cheque where I am not known… either cash or debit or credit card…

but think it expires next year. Ugh. And now you need it all, DL, passport, SS card, Birth cetificate… and so on.

Terrorists will still get around it … this is just to make life supposedly trackable inside the US. And a reason to abuse people if they do not have ID.

28. NYCee - 15 November 2006

Good on you, JJB. Webb will certainly fill in some positives where Allen was only a negative. I misplaced my sentence about being underwhelmed by him in the debate; I was rushing out, and see it looks funny in the spot I put it in, but what I meant was it seems a contrast with some of the other things Ive been getting wind of on Webb, which are more promising. He seems tough, and if he leans the right way and is tough, that is a plus, a much needed one.

As for being underwhelmed in the debate, he seemed rather subdued and tightly wound as well. I thought he had really squandered an opportunity to use the Macaca incident, brought up by the moderator, to highlight Allen’s very real racism. He couched Allen’s behavior as all about picking on his videographer, more rude and classless than racist. There is nothing race card about framing that incident as racist. It is what it is. Plainly. And when he explained his position on affirmative action (defense of his earlier statements) he said only blacks have been subjugated and therefore, deserve it. No other group is due any sort of help in that regard. I cant recall word/s he used, but whatever he said, it seemed he edited a huge chunk of victims in American history, the victimization of the first Americans, the native americans. A little odd, his explanation/omission, the way he framed it.

Anywayz, he definitely is better on the iraq war/ecomonic issues than a bunch of our Rs masquerading as Ds, thus far, in what he has said, how he has said it, so I can think of a lot worse choices. Again, Im a waitin to see what I will see on down the road a piece.

God, and Allen is creeptastic, though, isnt he? All that sister hairpulling/hanging her over Niagra Falls and brother punching and racist behavior… the deer head in the mailbox of a black person, etc etc etc. And his GOP rightwing policy bent added to it. Ugh. One uber creeptastic dude.

I can understand how good you felt voting him out.

29. NYCee - 15 November 2006

Oops. I double posted, dont know how it happened. Sorry! 😉

30. NYCee - 15 November 2006

One question about Carville. If you touch him is he really a solid? He appears ALL slime to me. All the time.

He is bound and determined to kill off Dean, it seems. Really, really hates him. It never ends. He and Begala poured pure hate over the name Dean at every opportunity on Crossfire and elsewhere in 2003 and 2004. They made him sound like a lunatic incompetent, a laughing stock (like Bush, and like they should have been aiming at Bush, not a front runner Dem candidate). They snickered and snorted as they mocked. Lots of joking at Dean’s expense. Way before the scream.

Carville is a motherfucker.

31. NYCee - 15 November 2006

I caught the Benny T line on Cspan… about the only thing I heard him say as I was getting ready to go today.

Taking that, him on the spot re ID, and more, I get the sense that Dems are really going to be scrutinized now to show how they are different from Rs. All this talk about middle middle middle rings a bit false to me re the temperature of the public. And the framing of the party and the new tempering of it – oh, yes, the Dems were soooo scary leftwing up to this election. During the nineties and 2000s, the flaming base ran away with it. Laughable. I have to ask, just who the fuck are they talking about? They act like Kucinich and his merry band of true liberals (sane, unashamed progressives) have ruled the roost (he is the sort of scary they mean). They act like the Dems were hijacked and dominated by rad special interests, as if the top of the D agenda was transgender. Fer the luvva…

And if the Dems really wanted to make the case for publicly funded elections, for no lobbyist money, for single payer healthcare, for even handed brokerage on the ME, with a new attitude toward Israel, etc, there is nothing that tells me the public isnt willing to listen. This is an opportune time. The Republican agenda was proven bankrupt.

I know there are a lot of doughy (headed) moderates in the country, some of those Indys who went Dem this election – I have seen them, and their stellar, sharp (NOT!) decison making as they convinced themselves out loud that Bush was better in 04, in focus groups on Cspan. But they are not the entire picture. Give them something to bite into. This is the time when the GOPs countervailing arguments are the weakest theyve been in a long, long time, seems to me.

32. NYCee - 15 November 2006

Wow, Democracy Now was ablaze today. Some crank from the AEI was shouting at Kucinich and McGovern and Amy. Kucinich talking about invading for oil, the AEIer was not amused. Didnt really sit down and watch, just caught snippets. Will watch later.

Go, Dennis!


33. marisacat - 15 November 2006

Well, when used by conservatives of either party, “left wing” and “liberal” mean, imo, – and have for a while – expansion and maintenance of rights.

It means abortion and gay rights. And it means anti war and that you might oppose the next one TOO (how dare you, yu cannot be sure we will be lied to already???!!) One reason they are throwing “populist” around a lot.

But my own guess is that Lott is back for a reason… he and Mitch McConnell will run the Southern strategy from inside the Senate… subversive from the side. LOL Clarence on the court was a product of a Democratic majority.

Spectre today quoted, with that strange clippped Southern accent of Thurmond’s, Spectre quoted Strom at the Judiciary cmte today… about courtesy if you can imagine.

and the House Blue Dogs said at their presser they can swing an election. They count themselves at 44 now with 10 incoming (they said) … There is some overlap between New Democrats and Blue Dogs… so hard to get an accurate count quickly of the two combined.

I think the PRogressive Caucus is at 65 or 70. Not sure…

We shall see.

34. Madman in the Marketplace - 15 November 2006

My thoughts on Schumer are here.

It’s xposted at BMT here, should you care to rec, if you’re still registered there.

None of this is in your little grifter’s mind, sir, and we all know it. When you talk of “average Americans”, you are aping the Republicans, playing games with people’s resentments, their fears, their prejudices and hatreds. You hope that when the easily-duped “centrist” voters, running in place in their tract homes, hear those words, that they will think, “that’s MY FAMILY” and not some other family that you and the other hacks running the Democratic Party are preparing to abandon to the vagaries of the marketplace, the swirling waters of the floods, the flesh-stripping winds of a far-flung desert.

When you spew forth terms like “average American”, you are appealing to DIVISION. You are appealing to fear and anger and bigotry and homophobia and misogyny and all of the other cancers bedeviling the American soul, because you, sir, are little different from the characters in the other party. Hell, you want to BE the other party, and you are unwilling or unable to see that this country is crying out for political leaders who will address the problems facing the greater majority of Americans. There is no “average” American. Averages are mathematical constructs, fake distinctions, the province of the accountant and the statistician, NOT the realm inhabited by real leaders, visionary leaders.

35. NYCee - 16 November 2006

Have been trying to post to no avail…

36. NYCee - 16 November 2006

I’ll try again, since that one worked.

Tried to post this (from last night):

I added my two centavos on the bow down and kiss Schumer’s ring diary on DK. No kissing here. Speaking of kissing, I tagged onto a mini debate over the Lamont loss. Gave my 2 pence on that obsession, too. The Eggs in One Basket strategy. Obsessively. That tainted it. And the CT voters are also a part of the problem. Jesus fucking Joementum, if the voters didnt know long ago that Lieberman was the sicko warmonger and Lamont wasnt, it wasnt because Lamont didnt work hard enough to tell them. (Sorry, HuffPo, or, Arianna). Those Dems and Indies who voted Joe are fucked up. Period. Blue CT just wasnt such a true blue bet.

Here’s my rant on DumpJoe&OnlyJoe (as a fizzled ‘movement’) and I-So-Love-Him-NOT Schumer, with a sprinkling of not love for Rahm thrown in. Not very nice of me I know. But then, preventive war isnt nice, Chuck.

2 cents

37. NYCee - 16 November 2006

Hmmm… that one is still not getting thru. Is it a certain word that is blocking it? It links to the same Kos diary linked here earlier.


38. NYCee - 16 November 2006

Ugh, Ben Nelson, that stuffed suit, was on Cspan today. I tried to call in – never have, but I really wanted to confront his record and put to rest the lie that he is a Democrat. Could not get thru.

It is just twilight zone to me to hear a caller put forth his concerns to Ben about the Dems being able to break thru GOP resistance. As if! He IS the resistance to real Democrats, he IS the GOP! Ben goes on about bipartisan magic, his trusty mantra. Sure, bipartisan as in getting the Democrats to vote with the Republicans.

Ben is “Independent,” he says over and over. Ah, such a maverick! Pin the R on his chest that accurately reflects his stances and he is nothing more than a GOP lockstepper.

He also said Harry doesnt lean on him, he really likes him. He doesnt surprise Harry on how he will vote and Harry doesnt chide him. He doesnt worry that Harry will lean harder as Majority Leader and nothing will change – he has the same constituency and the same stances on the issues and he is going to keep on representing them in the same way.

Someone really ought to do a What’s the Matter with Nebraska expose, with a focus on this creep. If I had gotten thru, I would have asked him what it is like representing a state peopled by only wealthy elites, since his voting record indicates that is his constituency.

39. JJB - 16 November 2006

I saw this over at James Wolcott’s site. It’s an article by Andrew Stephen in The New Statesman, a left-of-center British magazine.

Rumours persist [in Washington, DC] (and I have heard them repeated at a very senior level in the UK, too) that Bush has actually resumed drinking; I throw this into the mix not to sensationalise, but because I have now heard the rumour repeated at a sufficiently high level that I believe we must face the possibility that it might be true.

Bush was huddled inside the White House eating beef and ice cream on election night with Rove, my friend Josh Bolten, and four other trusted aides who will stick with him to the end. He was not drinking on this occasion, I’m assured – but, more than ever, my depiction of an unstable man living out his final days in office inside his bunker seem no longer to be fanciful. Hemmed in by Democratic foes wherever he looks, determined to be remembered in history as an unwaveringly strong leader, and increasingly detached from reality: now that suddenly becomes a very frightening vision indeed.

I wonder what person of “sufficiently high level” gave Mr. Stephen that tidbit? I really can’t imagine who it might have been . . . 8)=

You know things are really desperate when people issue “anonymous” quotes and allow themselves to be identified so clearly. Unless this is Stephen’s way of making sure Bolton isn’t pegged as the source of the rumor, that I think that’s too confusing a way to do this.

40. wu ming - 16 November 2006

more creeping fascism at the UCLA computer labs. youtube footage here.

reminds me of the solzhenitsyn quote in the gulag archipelago, about russian citizens waiting helplessly in their flats for the KGB to take them away, when they should have been waiting with lead pipes and kitchen knives in the stairwells for them.

41. marisacat - 16 November 2006

oops wu…

the first link is not working… do you have it handy, sounds very interesting…

42. cactus ed - 16 November 2006
43. wu ming - 17 November 2006

thanks, cactus ed.

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