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Bag a big one for the Homeland. 24 April 2007

Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, Abortion Rights, Big Box Blogs, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Sex / Reproductive Health.


i went hunting for this photo that I have used before (and thanks to Tuston I have a second, different, view of this colonial horror)… not sure why it ws in my mind… till I saw the post it rides above.

If MB wants so badly, as he has for a long time, to call me and whomever posts here racist, sexist, ageist whatever… he surely may. 

Two days ago Meteor Blades made an appeal for a monthlong cease fire of the circular firing squad in favor of getting our butts off our couches and out into the trenches, for the final push. This pissed off Madman in the Marketplace, who basically called Meteor Blades, part Native American, a house nigger. MB responded here.


If he wants to escalate, for his own purposes, “house liberal” to “house nigger”, nothing stopping him, that is exactly what he did, with his side kick Martin Oops Booman..

In their ignorance, they had, collectively and individually, apparently, assumed Meteor is the only Native American allowed to speak.  Madman is part Lakota.

Who cares if MB displays, as they all do, innate assholishness… 

But I won’t let his childish, foot stamp of a drop-in (he could not tear himself away from a site he hates, LOL) last evening go without context.

The Boyz talk about things like old movies because they cannot talk about what was addressed in the post itself

the Democrats, across decades, kneeling to the Republicans’ demands, whether the Democats are in the majority OR NOT.  Particularly egregious is the Democratic cave in, over and over, with regard to the judiciary even as the Democrats used the SC in elections.   Selling out women, gays and minorities.  And children.

Cowards.  Which is what THUGS are: COWARDS.


I know, all so boring… one reason threads are open, nothing is OT.  Don’t like what I post about, post whatever you like in the thread.



1. supervixen - 25 April 2007

I haven’t seen much commentary on DKos from Meteor Blades about Native voting. Have you?

The Nation has covered this issue, but apparently Daily Kos has a problem with it.


Kinda strange!

2. lucidculture - 25 April 2007

MB, like Camille Paglia, has the gift of gab. He can say pretty things which are sometimes compelling. He can say pretty things that are also full of shit.

He is, unlike CP, completely disingeuous.

He argues dishonestly & apparently doesn’t stand by what he claims to stand by. Hey, when CP is a loon, she’s at least honestly being a loon. When MB is a loon he casts aspersions of lunacy upon others.

It is the Dkos MO – what isn’t you is not just other, it is the irrational that proves you right – Orientalism for the ages. The late Ed Said would shake his head [and not just at the AIPAC brigade dominating the BBB’s].

Must sleep vipes.

work. tomorrow. blergh.

3. marisacat - 25 April 2007

Oh Bush is just laughing laughing laughing.

And over at TAPPED they have an entry, back and forth, Bush was 35% last year and now is ………………… 35%. But surely, they haggle, that is “epic collapse” (I am not kidding)?

No. that is a solid sick unmovable ………..


Bush sadly is not in collapse. But even if he were, the Dems would still be shooting themselves as they are doing in the politico.com article.

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 April 2007

a full third in a political system as broken as this one is more than enough to run roughshod wherever one wants … as Bush proves over and over again. The Nazi’s only had 17% of the seats in Parliament when the Reichstag fire happened, and even after the fire had to find allies to join their coalition to get a majority. We know what they were able to build from there. There are differences btwn that system and ours, but we’re also confronting a political right here that has sharpened their agitprop machinery carefully over 6 decades, while systematically removing almost every trace of an actual left from the public conversation. One third is more than enough, esp. when facing an “opposition” infected by “former” Republicans and scared of its own shadow.

I’d forgotten, btw, MB accusing me of being racist. Just to set the record straight, I’m a misanthrope, with a special distate for fakes and people who willingly run with a herd heading over a cliff. It always struck me as incredibly stupid to hate any one group of people based on some shared physical or cultural characteristic: intelligence and decency are such rare commodities that it’s self-defeating to limit my sample before I endevour to meet good people.

Off to work … have a happy everybody.

5. marisacat - 25 April 2007

Now that you cannot sell your house for love nor money:

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:



Might as well laugh.

6. colleen - 25 April 2007

I’d forgotten, btw, MB accusing me of being racist. Just to set the record straight, I’m a misanthrope, with a special distate for fakes and people who willingly run with a herd heading over a cliff.

I don’t think you need to set the record straight. Tim Lange destroyed his credibility some time ago. When I read his recent so-called apology I knew he was lying. Of course unlike Markos and the rest of Tim’s friends, Marisa did the honourable thing and allowed him to post again.
It’s a shame that he chooses to drive by and stink up the place again but hardly suprising.

7. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007


“Circular Firing Squad.”

The zillion and one blogosphere jaggoffs (whatever gender, orientation or hue they may be) who drag out that stupid cliche’ again and again should get the fuck over themselves. It would be more honest to replace the stupid calls for a “ceasefire” in a fight that has never been fair, equal, nor “circular” with the psycho-boss line from Matt Groening’s old book. The one that says:


So MB poses as Ghandi but it sounds more like he wants to be Psycho Boss, or at least Psycho Boss’ flunkie.

Smile, Girlies. Smile and wait for the next deadly projectile. Your abuser worked hard to leave that clout on your forehead this morning and those broken bones yesterday, so you’d better be properly appreciative. Put on something sexy, and some nice perfume. Be waiting at the door with cocktails and h’ors d’eurves when he gets home with the next attack on your reprodcutive rights. Coochie-coo. Good girl. You need this job. There is nowhere else for you to go.

8. BooHooHooMan - 25 April 2007

Waxman Just Subpoenaed Rice & RNC

Long Time, no see, eh?

9. marisacat - 25 April 2007

Can we make Waxman chair of EVERYTHING?

10. AlanSmithee - 25 April 2007

Circular firing squad? It’s a mark of just how amazingly disordered is MB’s thinking that he thinks impression that I’m on his spineless, gutless, do-nothing, yellow-stripe side in the first place. MB and the other junior debate club pundit-wannabes are the auteurists of the New Millennium. Little pwoggie-bloggie boyz making up elaborate rationalizations for liking crap.

If you’ve got a spare hour, you can listen to Goddess-Critic Pauline Kael sweep the floor with auteurist boy-man Andrew Sarris here.

11. BooHooHooMan - 25 April 2007

I am just catching up on the reads.

NPR reported yesterday on a study indicating thatone in three Native American women are victimized by rape over the course of a lifetime.

Where are the akostophoneys on the issue? Doing movie reviews now I suppose?


12. missdevore - 25 April 2007

BHHM!! Welcome back from wherever you where (were?)

13. jam.fuse - 25 April 2007

#113 last thread Sabrina B

…is there really such a theory? I thought it was just my own wild imagination

Well there is now I guess

Ever read The Einstein Intersection by Samuel R. Delaney? Pretty crazy science fiction, aliens taking human form in a post apocalyptic future, acting out human myths from orpheus to billy the kid or something or other. It’d make a great film.

14. jam.fuse - 25 April 2007

communion wafer as blotter acid–if only!

a lovely sentiment missdevore

15. marisacat - 25 April 2007

The funniest thing is that MB lectured on Pauline K. My parents did not personally know her but many people at dinner parties at the house did, know her quite imtimately. She came from out here, Sonoma and then Berkeley..

LOL She in her hey day was oftne a topic at dinner parties.

Meteor is just so used to the deep kneel he got for years over at Dkos.

Over and over they think only THEY, the great vaunted they, know and may speak.

So proprietary.

16. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

Yesterday there was so much news re the corruption in the Republican Party it was hard to keep up with it all. Talking Points Memo did a pretty good job of following it all, from who was implicated in the Abramoff affairs, the corruption in the DOJ, the Wolfowitz affair, Hookergate etc. Rep. Renzi, Doolittle, a Congressional aide maybe ready to plead guilty and the possible toppling of another Congressional Rep.


But the biggest news to me got little attention either from the media (no big surprise) or from the BBB. That was the news that the RNC may very well have had the technical ability to compromise the 2004 election, just as we suspected.

2004 Election Results Tallied on GOP Servers

Did the most powerful Republicans in America have the computer capacity, software skills and electronic infrastructure in place on Election Night 2004 to tamper with the Ohio results to ensure George W. Bush’s re-election?

The answer appears to be yes. There is more than ample documentation to show that on Election Night 2004, Ohio’s “official” Secretary of State website – which gave the world the presidential election results – was redirected from an Ohio government server to a group of servers that contain scores of Republican web sites, including the secret White House e-mail accounts that have emerged in the scandal surrounding Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’s firing of eight federal prosecutors…

Mitm posted about it in the previous thread, I think it was post #14. When I read the first reports verifying the elaborate computer system that may have given them the ability to do more than hide their email communications, I remembered again, the night of the election and the changing exit poll numbers which raised serious questions, never properly answered by the media or anyone else for that matter.

But mostly, I remembered the silencing of those who asked questions, not by Republicans but by so-called liberal sites like Daily Kos. And the silence of the media, the acceptance of Bob Ney as someone who was committed to clean elections (what joke that is in retrospect) and the backing away from the whole issue of election fraud by Democrats, who should have been the most outraged at what was known beyond a doubt, the suppression of the minority vote, eg.

Nothing proves more to me that Daily Kos is no more a liberal site than LGF, than the purging of anyone who dared to question the results of the 2004 election. Had the so-called big liberal blogs pursued this most important of issues, we might not have had to wait until now to find out that maybe, in fact most likely, election fraud was way more than a ‘conspiracy theory’. Instead they blocked all discussion of it.

The claims made yesterday may not be proof positive of a stolen election, but they surely do warrant a thorough investigation into what exactly did happen in Ohio in Nov. 2004.

Daily Kos et al, are, as many people have said, ‘in the way’ of those who are serious about straightening out this country and ridding it of the criminals and their enablers in both parties who have taken over this government. The question is, is this their assigned role, or were they just used? Either way, the end result has been disastrous and so it really doesn’t matter why they played the role they did, the same role played by the corrupted media. What they did was to interfere with the voice of the people by attempting to take over the only avenue they had to be heard.

As Peeder said ‘no self-respecting blogger is still posting on that site’ or words to that effect.

17. BooHooHooMan - 25 April 2007

Hey miss D! Been in an out of the loop for a coupla weeks now.

Most of my media has been NPR at work Very little online time lately though I logged on a bit for quick reads.

SCOTUS move is appalling, the ignorance on the issue insufferable.

18. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

I’ve never seen The Deer Hunter. I do think it’s a shame that there are not a spate of war movies from the occupied nations’ POV to compete with those from the occupier’s nation. Of course, if that’s really what MB means, it should be possible to say so without asserting that TDH sucks. What sucks is the one-sided environment of American exceptionalism that permeates even supposedly liberal Hollywood. That’s something bigger than just the good or bad in a single film, however prestigious and/or vilified it is.

Also, the subject is a stupid thing to try and tar SV with. Sort of like those clowns a month or so back who thought that we’d all jump ship here if they dug up some online prayer Mcat made for her dying mother years ago. Gevalt.

MB and the rest: Produce the body of a dead basket of puppies and kittens and Mcat standing over their dessicated corpses with a grin, a machete and a Blackwater baseball cap. Then I’m sure we’d all give second thoughts to our time spent here. Otherwise, sod off already.

19. missdevore - 25 April 2007

“Cuz I’m the Waxman,
Yeaah I’m the Waxman,
And no one is working for you
but me…”

20. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

Yessss! Waxman is the best! Can we draft him for president? That man did his homework, he has recorded everything!

Can we make Waxman chair of EVERYTHING? Marisacat

Isn’t he the Chair of everything? Lol!

Hey, BHHM, welcome back –

21. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

Sorry. That should be “produce the photo.” Eh. More coffee.

Hey SB, remember that we just need to get a Democrat in the WH and then everything will be all right. What ? You say that voter fraud makes that impossible and that Democrats themselves can’t even be stirred to do a thing about it ? Fine. VOTE FOR FUCKING BUSH THEN !! :p

22. BooHooHooMan - 25 April 2007

Mcat -if Meteor’s been naughty and haughty again, you might give him a take home essay. The Topic?

Why Timothy Lange REALLY Left Colorado and What Did He Leave Behind

23. marisacat - 25 April 2007

well it is looking rather thin in the ranks but for Waxman.

And as I keep mentioning, the chair of the committee (forget the title but it has to do with specific aspects of gov and administration oversight) has increased powers and is less liable to interference from the Dem Caucus due to DAN BURTON who wrested extra power for the many Clinton era -Gates.

170 subpeonas for Christmas Card Gate. (not kidding)

24. marisacat - 25 April 2007


LOL well in a very roundabout way I alluded to CO.

25. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

Ms xeno, MB and the rest: Produce the body of a dead basket of puppies and kittens ….. Then I’m sure we’d all give second thoughts to our time spent here.

Ahem, how about just show us a purge of real progressives who dare to question the Dems collusion with this criminal administration? 🙂

Lol, Ms xeno, fell for that in 2006 but never again – (vote for Bush I mean) because that’s what we got anyway.

26. missdevore - 25 April 2007

Hey I noticed that Talk Left is having a fundraiser, too , though the begging is straightforward, and not offering “lanyard worn by aravia while blogging-never laundered!”

(Oh and I posted a mildly critical comment on “give ’em hesitation harry” and some TL protector commented “Do you just come here to stir up shit?” )

as I have mentioned before, does anyone know how to do net fundraisers–or should we ditch the bother and just send to Mcat’s account? I am prepared to autograph as many type N vaccuum cleaner bags as it takes to get us all to Long Island chez Sabrina.

27. marisacat - 25 April 2007

“give em hesitation, Harry”

That’s a good one!


Calif NG off to Afghanistan! with masses of equipment. Film right now on local news.

And I guess Nunes the Dem leader of the CA Assembly is signing up with Hillary.


28. jam.fuse - 25 April 2007

Daily Kos had a nifty article/photo about insects on the FP the day after the 2004 election, iirc, no lie.

29. missdevore - 25 April 2007

No one suffers more WATCHING Iraq (from rawstory):

“During an interview on NBC’s Today show Wednesday concerning Malaria Awareness Day, Laura Bush talked to Ann Curry about “other challenges her husband is facing.”

“You know the American people are suffering watching –,” Curry said to the first lady.

“Oh, I know that very much,” Laura Bush responded. “And believe me, no one suffers more than their president and I do when we watch this, and certainly the commander in chief, who has asked our military to go into harm’s way.”

They are about in touch with the populace as the Romanovs.

30. marisacat - 25 April 2007

LOL… I mean it, all you can do is laugh. From Blogometer:

CLINTON: Mind The Gap

Hillary Clinton celebrated Equal Pay Day by guest blogging at firedoglake.

HRC writes: “If men in this country were paid just 77 cents for every dollar that women were paid for the same work, what do you think would happen? Mass protests? Editorial outrage? Immediate Congressional action? I think all of the above. And more. But women have been paid less than men for decades, and we are still fighting for this fundamental inequity to be remedied. … I introduced the Paycheck Fairness Act in Congress to help close the pay gap. It would toughen the penalties for violating the Equal Pay Act, to stop discrimination in the workplace. It makes sure the government enforces equal pay in its contracts, so that we’re leading by example.”

I dunno… she seems too much like Segolene Royal in France. Where she is due to the long time bf/husband (in Hillary’s case she married him).. and when off script, really really lost.

it’s old already and still playing out.

31. missdevore - 25 April 2007

jam.fuse–which insects on the FP? MissLaura? DHinMI?

hey-I got in a lotta trouble there when I said “insects is best”:

” mcjoan (1+ / 9-)
Recommended by: Nonpartisan

Trollrated by: pontificator, MissLaura,
SallyCat, PaintyKat, Pithy Cherub, Miss Blue, chumley, Prison4Bushco, wandabee

will handle all the complaints about armando’s assholliness.
because that would be a fair system.
incest is best, after all.

Rome wasn’t burnt in a day.
by Miss Devore on Wed Dec 06, 2006 at 10:41:19 PM CST”

and shortly thereafter, I was begoned.

32. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

Rotfl (Oh and I posted a mildly critical comment on “give ‘em hesitation harry” and some TL protector commented “Do you just come here to stir up shit?” )

See, it’s ‘shit-stirring’ to tell the truth – and isn’t that why we all ‘come here’? To spread the truth? Oh, well, probably not, you shit-stirrer you!

as I have mentioned before, does anyone know how to do net fundraisers–or should we ditch the bother and just send to Mcat’s account? .

Don’t know a thing about fund-raising, Miss D so I’m for the easiest way out, send to MCat’s acct, which I intend to do as soon as I am a little bit ahead of the bills.

I am prepared to autograph as many type N vaccuum cleaner bags as it takes to get us all to Long Island chez Sabrina

That could be a winner, especially if you send a little narrative (or better yet, a video activation) of the trials and tribulations of trying to find the bag, to the manufacturer. I can see this as an ad for the vaccuum with Miss D as the star. Just make sure it’s copyrighted. I wonder how much it would cost to fly everyone here? Lol

33. brinn - 25 April 2007

Speaking of war movies — any of ya’ll seen Three Kings? I fucking love that movie, and watching it now is even more of a poweful experience than when it first came out (1999).

If you haven’t, and even if you hate war movies, check it out….

34. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

Mmm, Obama appeals to former Bush ‘pioneers’!

Obama Wins Over Chicago Fed’s Canning, a Top Bush Fundraiser

April 25 (Bloomberg) — John Canning has impeccable Republican credentials: He was a Pioneer, one of President George W. Bush’s top fundraisers. He’s the head of a leveraged- buyout firm. He’s the deputy board chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.

Now he has given the maximum campaign contribution, $4,600, to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

Canning says he’s fed up with the Republican Party. “It’s become a party that’s taken Neanderthal positions on things like stem-cell research and global warming,” Canning, who was appointed to the Fed post in 2004, said in an interview. “I no longer find myself on the same page.”


Canning is one of a number of prominent Republicans who have turned against the party. At least two other Bush Pioneers are contributing to Obama this time, and Bush’s chief 2004 campaign strategist, Matthew Dowd, assailed the president’s second-term performance in an April 1 New York Times interview.

Was this Obama’s goal? It would explain his often not-so-subtle attacks on liberals over the past several months.

35. BooHooHooMan - 25 April 2007

Mcat your recent work on SCOTUS decision was devastating in its power and scope, offering no rest for reality fugitives.

36. marisacat - 25 April 2007

He has already bagged a Bush Ranger… I read in NYO last week. Think I neglected to post it…

37. marisacat - 25 April 2007


thanks… well just an amateur effort – and it certainly relied on much learned from moiv (and her pick apart of the wording of S 3).

It was so awful. Is so awful. Federal ban.

38. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

So HRC will assure that I have the right to equal pay. Just like she and her cronies assure me that I have the right to an organized workplace.

Once they pass the law, they will be cleansed of any further responsibility toward enforcing it. Or they will immediately sponsor multiple bills that will hamstring enforcement and produce waivers galore for all their bestest buddies. (Cough.) See the likes of Taft-Hartley and the Hyde Amendment for further info on how this will play out.

39. marisacat - 25 April 2007

Sirota on Baucus and a big big sell out. If what Sirota writes is accurate, it was not necessary. Grassley was not opposed to what the Dems stripped out.

40. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

Oh, and related to the elephant pic, here’s an oldie but a goodie that you may have missed:

Art To Go.

Paint trucks, not trunks. 😀

41. jam.fuse - 25 April 2007

miss devore you got some true grit and that’s a natural fact

Well, I’m off to Mom’s house, ta ta…

42. marisacat - 25 April 2007

They’ve shelled the private TV/radio broadcast stations in Somalia:

In Somalia, shelling destroys broadcast stations, injures journalists

Two private broadcast stations were destroyed and several journalists were injured last week as Ethiopian troops backing Somalia’s transitional government attacked suspected strongholds of Islamist fighters and militiamen from the Hawiye clan, according to news reports and local journalists.

HornAfrik television and radio-the first independent broadcaster in Somalia’s history- has been off the air since several mortar shells destroyed its Mogadishu studios on Saturday, injuring cameraman Abdi Dhaqane and reporter Yahye Ali Farah, according to media reports and the National Union of Somali Journalists.


Apparently the transitional gov told the stations to censor themselves, in Feb.

43. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

Hillary’s response to Giuliani’s tired old scare tactic rhetoric about who we need to vote for to ensure being protected from all those ‘foreign enemies’. Seems to me her response is not much different, in terms of the scare tactics.

“There are people right now in the world, not just wishing us harm but actively planning and plotting to cause us harm. If the last six years of the Bush Administration have taught us anything, it’s that political rhetoric won’t do anything to quell those threats. And that America is ready for a change.

“One of the great tragedies of this Administration is that the President failed to keep this country unified after 9/11. We have to protect our country from terrorism – it shouldn’t be a Democratic fight or a Republican fight. The plain truth is that this Administration has done too little to protect our ports, make our mass transit safer, and protect our cities. They have isolated us in the world and have let Al Qaeda regroup.

The next President is going to be left with these problems and will have to do what it takes to make us safer and bring Democrats and Republicans together around this common mission of protecting our nation. That is exactly what has to be done and what I am ready to do.”

Stay afraid! Stay very afraid! And never forget that war is the answer!

44. colleen - 25 April 2007

Mcat your recent work on SCOTUS decision was devastating in its power and scope, offering no rest for reality fugitives.


The reality fugitives were tastelessly invoking the bodies of dead women while insisting that everyone send their money to the Party which made Harry Reid majority leader and gave us Bob Casey Sr and Jr because NARAL and Planned Parenthood were responsible for the SCOTUS decision.
The problem with Democratic operatives is that they’re not just dishonest, rude, sexist thugs, they’re also unpardonably stupid.

45. BooHooHooMan - 25 April 2007

As for good cheer – Mcat you owe me a cup of coffee for your exquisitely bitchy aunt riff some threads back –

SB Miss D SV Xeno Catnip Madman and Smithee — admiration for all & proof of intelligent life in the US

heading for food for a bare fridge, will be back in a few hours

46. marisacat - 25 April 2007

Here’s an idea. Nicholas von Hoffman in the NYO. “Forced” to fund the war (not a spine in sight) why not be at least pragmatic (what else do they lecture on?) and raise taxes to pay for the war.

Yet the plain, unamended bill that George W. Bush wants should not pass. He is asking for a give-me-the-money-and-shut-up bill, and he should not get that. The votes in Congress can be found to put a different amendment on the supplemental-appropriations war-funding bill. A tax amendment.

The politics are right for a bill with an amendment raising taxes high enough to pay for the war and the re-equipping of the Army, the Marines and the National Guard. That should come in at around the $250 billion level.

Not everybody should pay. The tax increase should be levied only on persons with incomes over $348,000 a year. This is the top 1 percent of income recipients—where, it is believed, most tax cheats are to be found.

This class of Americans has done nothing to contribute to the war except make money. They are conspicuous for not having gone to fight themselves, and for not having sent their own sons and daughters to fight and perhaps to die or be maimed. Moreover, they are the group whose campaign contributions went to elect the politicians who have dumped the war and its consequences on the rest of us and the world. If nothing else, they should pay a few dollars in reparations for the harm they have caused and for the profits they have garnered, which border on the stupendous

LOL Not the Dems in view. Tho I am sure some wnat to, but are out yelled by the Blooooo Dogs.

47. Miss Devore - 25 April 2007

ms_xeno–well pimp my Pakistani ride! The cabdriver from “Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown” must be so jealous.

Come to think of it–couldn’t we win more hearts and minds by sending over the guys from “Pimp My Ride” than the fools in the State Dept?

48. lucidculture - 25 April 2007

Speaking of war movies — any of ya’ll seen Three Kings?

Good movie – haven’t seen it in a while, but it’s certainly worth a watch.

49. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

I try, BHHM. 🙂 May I only be worthy in such an enclave of vipers, haters, devil cats, home-delivered provisions recipients and the like…

50. BooHooHooMan - 25 April 2007

D’oh! thwacks head, forgot Colleen!

Colleen: incisive + articulate

51. BooHooHooMan - 25 April 2007

Damn xeno – trying to get out the door to go to the Ac -a – me.Now I’m headin out thinkin about dessert, knowing outside of the enclave I’m always settling for less…

52. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

Excellent idea from Nicholas Van Hoffman, which is why it won’t happen! Although it would probably end the war were there the will to do so.

Another development in the ongoing oversight hearings – the Republicans own Monica (Goodling) has been granted immunity:

Breaking: Gonzales Aide Goodling Granted Immunity

The House Judiciary Committee voted moments ago to grant immunity to Monica Goodling — former counsel to Alberto Gonzales and the Justice Department’s liaison to the White House — and issue a subpoena compelling her to testify. Yesterday, fired U.S. Attorney David Iglesias said he believes that Goodling holds the “keys to the kingdom” in terms of uncovering the roots of the U.S. Attorney purge:

I think Monica Goodling is holding the keys to the kingdom. I think if they get her to testify under oath with a transcript, and have her describe the process between the information flow between the White House counsel, White House and the Justice Department, I believe the picture becomes a lot clearer.

I just read that her attorney wants a more broad immunity agreement. She took the fifth, she says, because Congress was setting a ‘perjury trap’ for her. Well, to avoid that all she had to do was tell the truth. Makes you wonder if she plans to lie, only this time with immunity. I hope they have a solid agreement that she tell the truth. I wouldn’t trust these criminals at all.

53. missdevore - 25 April 2007

“lie with impunity
under immunity”

54. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007


55. marisacat - 25 April 2007

From Regent U we know she’ll swear to gawd. Or Robertson. Or whomever RU is .

56. missdevore - 25 April 2007

speaking of other clueless laura’s:

“Meta: Tagging and Tag Abuse
by MissLaura
Wed Apr 25, 2007 at 12:47:16 PM PDT

We’ve been noticing a fair amount of tag abuse lately, and wanted to clear a few things up to make sure the tags get used properly.

First, and most importantly, you need to know that tag abuse is a bannable offense. If an administrator sees you’ve engaged in tag abuse, you will be formally warned. Repeat abuses can result in banning at any time without a follow-up warning. This diary should be taken as a warning in itself – now that we are unequivocally on the record about this, we will be more willing to take action against tag abusers the first time we see it.”

Take a fucking tagamet-a and begone! What a vision you see in the burning bush! Hang those tag-abusers by their lanyards!

57. missdevore - 25 April 2007

I think Ms. Tylor should be asked to be guest speaker at VAGabonds on Long Island:

58. marisacat - 25 April 2007

issue that dame some storm trooper boots. YOu know she wants them.

Not that any of this rises to a Dirk Bogarde movie.

PS Oooops! I mean the Tag Abuse Queen, not Ms Tylor… 😉

59. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

You know, I have a suggestion for the ‘administration’ at DK. Why don’t they list what is NOT a bannable offense? Along with a list of WHO is bannable, It surely would save a lot of time.

Doncha just love Nurse Ratchett’s wagging finger? The resident ‘feminist’ who, on the climb up the ladder to the fp of the phony liberal blog she now proudly represents, once posted a pic of her own boobs – lol, covered but still! I like to think of women getting promoted without having to resort to such desperate means. But well, to each their own.

I just hope they never dare to speak for women, or men for that matter. They’ve left a pretty damning record of what it takes for women to climb to the ‘top’ in the world of Kos and it’s not pretty, in any sense of the word. But that woman is pretty scary, imo. A perfect match for the man she pretty much gave herself apoplexy trying to defend, the infamous DHinMi. Two abusive, authoritarians, perfect for what dk is – no writing talent, but loyal to the dubious goals of the site, whatever they are.

Tag abuse, so important a topic – ban-worthy but for starting an illegal war, for corruption the likes of which has never been seen, the same finger wagging ‘administrators’ see no reason to remove (ban) a lying, cheating, law-breaking president. Impeachment porn is what that would be according to the doctrine of dk. But a mistake with a diary tag? Worthy of banishment! You have to laugh at them, what else can you do when priorities are so clearly messed up?
Zero credibility is what they have –

60. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

issue that dame some storm trooper boots. YOu know she wants them. marisacat

Rotfl, yes, she wants them badly – and she ‘worked’ hard to get them – a distinctly unattractive personality.

Miss D, loved your ‘insect’ remark. Those people have NO sense of humor. So that’s what got you banned? Strange, because it was so true. In fact, in armando’s last thread, where the star chamber was apparently holding hearings to ensure his demise, mcjoan did, once again, come to his defense, admonishing his adversary, while ignoring his own bad behavior, airc proving the accuracy of your statement.

61. supervixen - 25 April 2007

Oh Goddess, yes. Ms. Tylor is right up our alley. Check this out:


Refuse to Be Denied!

Thanks, Miss D, for the link to this most charming Supervixen.

62. marisacat - 25 April 2007

Tylor beats “scratch his back jack” games… 😉

Imagine having a Wellstone award and giving it to the likes of Armstrong, Rahm and some of the others (hell all of the others, but for Bass, whom I know nothing about)

63. Miss Devore - 25 April 2007

maybe the planets were aligned right for jerome.

64. missdevore - 25 April 2007

set the table, nancy–and get a hearing aid! (from rawstory):

“When the California Democratic Convention begins this weekend, party progressives both inside and outside the San Diego Convention Center will be pressing hard to bring impeachment back on the table as a means of holding the presidency of George W. Bush accountable for crimes they allege have been committed since 2001.

“I’ve been blown away by the response. People are wanting to organize and rally behind one single thing at the convention, and that’s impeachment,” said Joye Swan of the Progressive Caucus of the California Democratic Party, who is helping lead an effort to pass a resolution expressing the California Democratic Party’s support for impeaching President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

But the fight will be complicated by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s unwillingness to hear their message and the encouragement that her stance may give opponents of the impeachment measure within the California Democratic Party leadership.”

65. wozzle - 25 April 2007

That site scared the piss out of me. Thanks, VAGs, I’m gonna have nightmares for a week.

Still popping the overfilled orange balloons, I see. It’s shameful that a site with so damn much past personality and talent could devolve so rapidly into a pumpkin farm. But the one I really miss is Billmon, one of the more incisive and powerful writers I ever read.

The general squabbling in the t00bs is a bit offputting. Did any of you ever experience Silicon Investor? It was one of the original blogs – started out as a place to discuss tech stocks, but rapidly expanded to include just about every social and interest grouping. The originators sold it to a corporate entity, and it sagged into an amorphous pile. Maybe Markos is thinking of selling…

66. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

maybe the planets were aligned right for jerome. Lol, well, I doubt Wellstone would approve –

I must be missing something – since when is he ‘credited’ with starting the netroots? I never heard of him until about a year ago and have been active online since 2001 as have literally thousands of others. When I first did hear of him, it was all bad airc. He was involved in some kind of online scam. As for activism, I would think if they (kos and jerome) had accomplished anything of significance we would have heard about it when it counted.

What this does do is to confirm the suspected purpose of the BBB, to push the agenda of the DLC (yes, I know what kos says) and the worst of the Dem Party, Rahm Emmanuel et al. I guess this is his pat on the back for his help in silencing real progressives. I’m about as impressed by this as I would be reading that that Jimrob from FR was given an award for his service to the Repub. Party. Too bad so many were fooled for so long.

67. earth to meg - 25 April 2007

The pro-fetus apologists sicken me. They are everywhere, disguised as “pro-choice. ” I just got off another forum where a couple of “pro-choice” people were saying how terrible it is that women are “allowed” to use “abortion as birth control.” Otherwise, “they’re all for” choice. I responded that it wasn’t any of their business WHY someone has an abortion – that’s between her and her doctor, for fuck sake.

I also told her I hoped she was out lobbying for better sex education and access to birth control if she felt that way. Ten minutes later, I couldn’t log back in on the site. They banned me. And this wasn’t even a political website, they had a separate forum for political discussions.

It’s fucking scary out there.

68. lucidculture - 25 April 2007

Imagine having a Wellstone award and giving it to the likes of Armstrong, Rahm and some of the others

Paul is rolling in his grave.

69. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

etm: The only moral abortion is MY abortion.

That’s how the assholes think. They will be first in line to justify their own, even when it’s against the law. But the rest of us are filthy whores for whom hanging is too good. Same as it ever was.

70. supervixen - 25 April 2007

earth to meg: good for you. Amazing how these people CANNOT TOLERATE any opposing views – they must ostracize and silence anyone daring to question them. They’re nice little Stalinists.

brinn – yes, 3 Kings is an excellent film.

Another great war film is Patton. Oh, I hear Meteor Blades shrieking in horror – SV, you are so un-PC! It was Nixon’s favorite movie, after all! But even so, it’s still terrific – complex, nuanced, and George C. Scott is just stunning. “God, how I hate the 20th century.”

71. missdevore - 25 April 2007

jerome is honored on dk as the “blogfather” of ko$t.

lettuce prey:

Our blogfather
who scams the heavens
shallow be thy fame
thy kingdom come
with centrist scum
that’s the frame
in post 9/11.
give us this day
our daily kos
and forgive us our
as we troll-rate those
who trespass against us.
and bleat us not
more equivocation
and deliver us
from that viper den.

{making sign of the crust}

72. Kevin Lynch - 25 April 2007

When has there ever been a “she’s using abortion as birth control” story that’s turned out to be true? The last time I heard that I was in college. It was used as a rumor, a whispering campaign, to defame a young woman in the theater department. Jealousy over a stolen boyfriend was all it was. This goes right into the “Welfare Queen” trash receptacle.

I’m callin’ “Bullshit!”

73. earth to meg - 25 April 2007

Kevin, I agree it’s one of their myths they promulgate, just like the breast cancer thing that SV posted about. The other one is “post abortion syndrome,” which the American Psychological Foundation said doesn’t exist.

74. bayprairie - 25 April 2007

Oh and I posted a mildly critical comment on “give ‘em hesitation harry” and some TL protector commented “Do you just come here to stir up shit?”

denial bubbles are fragile. they always shun pins. miss devore, you’re bubble trouble!

75. jam.fuse - 25 April 2007

One of the horrible middle aged drunks at the bar yesterday (of which I am one) mentioned he had “fathered two abortions”, which I found quite amusing, sorry if that’s offensive to anyone here.

76. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

“Abortion as birth control” is supposed to imply that it’s simultaneously as trivial as having your teeth cleaned, and too important to treat as a procedure that can be obtained as readily as a tooth-cleaning. Classic self-righteous smoke and mirrors. Abortion is what it is.

I am sorry now that I never had to have one. I would love to be able to post about that and shove it up the noses of these idiots and wannabe Quislings. How many of them have had the procedure and are hiding behind the ‘net’s anonymity to avoid any judgmental fingers being pointed back at them ? Given that nearly half of all women will avail themselves of abortion at least once, you’ve gotta’ figure that there are a few, at least…

77. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

Miss D #69 – you have outdone yourself!

‘Our blogfather who scams the Heavens! Rotfl!

denial bubbles are fragile. they always shun pins. miss devore, you’re bubble trouble! bayprairie

That she is – lol! They just can’t handle her!

It’s fucking scary out there. earth to meg

I love it that people are so fucking thin-skinned. What is it about not being able to tolerate a difference of opinion? Banishment of dissenters is all they can think to do. It shows their incredible weakness and unsuitability for any kind of position of responsibility.

78. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

Oh, and if it’s okay to worship (selectively) ’70s machismo, can I emulate SV and say that I love, love , LOVE Robert Mitchum in The Big Sleep remake ? When I was a pup, I wanted to grow up to BE Mitchum/Marlowe. He was just so cool !! 😀

79. marisacat - 25 April 2007

it’s not offensive. There used to be a woman in SF who lived at the Fairmont Hotel. With her 5 Mexican hairless dogs. Which she called her “abortions”.

The offensive thing is what happened to Gerri Santoro and that so many don’t seem to mind that it happen again.

80. supervixen - 25 April 2007

Looking in at DKos, I see that there is STILL no mention of the breast-cancer link story. Miz “Feminizzmizms”, Lady Martinet, is too busy to post anything about it – it’s MUCH more important to chide those who are unruly enough to “abuse tags”. Well, we all gotta have priorities! Don’t rock the boat, and don’t talk too much about any pro-choice issues because it annoys the Fratboyz – just spout the party line and keep your kneepads strapped on, there’s a good little girl.

81. marisacat - 25 April 2007

Word ws around years ago that Jenna has had two.

82. marisacat - 25 April 2007

Miss Devore

one of if not your very best… 😉

83. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

Well, if she has had them and it could be proven, Mcat, I’d put good money down on the Koz-osphere getting all het up about her supposedly filthy sluthood. When sensible people who don’t moonlight as knuckle-dragging cavemen know that’s besides the point.

The point, to any MB’s still reading, is that it’s none of your fucking business and not your fucking PLACE to decide if Jenna Bush is worthy of a safe, legal abortion. Or if I am. Learn to mind your own fucking business and learn to treat the law as an entity that is REQUIRED to do the same.

84. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

{making sign of the crust}

Is that graham cracker crust, or gingersnap crust ? I am willing to be an apostate if that’s what it takes, MissD…

85. supervixen - 25 April 2007

ms x – I liked mitchum in that too, but the movie itself was kind of blah. Like so many ’70s movies.

’70s machismo = Steve McQueen in, well, pretty much every movie he was in.

86. marisacat - 25 April 2007

well its the hypocrisy of Jenna and her family. about so many things. And the girls are already treated (derided) as privileged sluts … which iirc goes back quite a ways at Dkos.

The Bush family has long held themsleves up as ordinary Midland TX people. What a joke. Anything but. I think Bar and Poppy lived more in Manhattan than in Midland, to be frank. Just one more…

87. lucidculture - 25 April 2007

Miss D – beyond brilliant. Genius I say.

As for ’70’s machismo, well, I s’pose there’s always Clint. It’s quite amazing the director he’s turned into lately – everyone who works with him seems to adore him as well, despite his libertarian past. And as ’70’s machismo movies go, Clint’s always had the most kick-ass soundtracks – crazy ’70’s fusion stuff.

88. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

Yeah, Mcat. And the hypocrisy flows downhill. 😦 I have no doubt that Kos would be first in line to proclaim the morality of his female loved one’s abortion, if she needed one and he couldn’t keep it secret. Since women are male property, you obviously can’t call HIS flesh and blood an evil whore or whatever, because what does that say about him ? Oh, the horror…

>: A school of thought that should have gone out some time ago. >:

89. jam.fuse - 25 April 2007

Fave superstud 70’s actors — Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson, Paul Newman, Jack Nicholson. I’m tempted to say they don’t make ’em like they used to, but these days talent is a liability and mediocrity exalted.

90. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

Ms xeno, btw, that link to Pakistani truck art is beautiful #40, I think.

Re the movie, ‘The Big Sleep’, I haven’t seen it – in fact I haven’t seen any of the movies mentioned here except for the Deer Hunter. I did finally see ‘Good Night and Good Luck’ this weekend, and ‘Deja Vu’ with Denzel Washington. I loved the guy who played Murrow in Good Night & Good Luck.

I also love movies about traveling through time. Deja Vu was interesting from that pov. Would love it if we could do that and wonder if it will ever be possible.

Wozzle, if he’s going to sell it, he better hurry up before his ratings sink any lower.

Speaking of page views, ratings etc. I followed a link to the Alec Baldwin/Kim Basinger debacle yesterday and saw that there were over 16,000 responses to one article about it! First time I went to an ‘entertainment’ site. Sad, that so many commenters had something to say about the divorce of two people. If only torture, war and corruption could illicit that much interest.

91. missdevore - 25 April 2007

I’m trying to remember a movie with Robert Mitchum–upon googling, maybe it is “Wrath of God” that I always conflate with “Duck, You Sucker” with James Coburn. the latter is hilarious.

ms_xeno- a crust of crushed walnuts?

btw, I put Ms. Tylor’s Vagina Power on my blogdrool under artists & irregulars.

92. jam.fuse - 25 April 2007

Night of the Hunter, directed by Charles Laughton, is a Bob Mitchum tour de force, in which he plays an outwardly charming preacher with a penchant for marrying and murdering widows for their money. Gotta see that one again.

93. marisacat - 25 April 2007

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:



Roll Call is here, Dems were 216 yes 13 No.

94. marisacat - 25 April 2007

hmmm not sure what is up, I see Kucinich voted NO, iwth the Repubs. Must have had a objection to the whole thing. Stark ovted ‘present’…

95. missdevore - 25 April 2007

if you are going to be a boy, you have to kill something….(BUT NOT A FETUS!) from CNN:

LONDON, England (AP) — Nostalgia ain’t what it used to be.

In these frenzied, media-saturated times, the lure of a simpler past is more powerful than ever.

That may explain the success of “The Dangerous Book for Boys,” a deliberately retro tome that has become the publishing sensation of the year in Britain.

Exuding the brisk breeziness of Boy Scout manuals and Boy’s Own annuals, “The Dangerous Book” is a childhood how-to guide that covers everything from paper airplanes to go-carts, skipping stones to skinning a rabbit.


Girls are explicitly — and, some argue, unnecessarily — excluded by the book’s title.

Iggulden is unconcerned.

“It’s not exactly that we are excluding girls, but we wanted to celebrate boys, because nobody has been doing it for a long while,” he said.”

96. marisacat - 25 April 2007

Oh that is so AEI and Cato and Heritage of them. Perhaps our Royalists can help with something else.

97. moiv - 25 April 2007

etm —

I just got off another forum where a couple of “pro-choice” people were saying how terrible it is that women are “allowed” to use “abortion as birth control.” Otherwise, “they’re all for” choice.

They’re ALL birth control — all abortions, every last one of them, performed at any stage or for any reason. The fight is about which births it is OK to control, and their eligibility for that control increases in direct proportion to the perceived level of suffering of the woman involved.

Because women have simply got to do penance, one way or another. Whether through rape, incest, impaired health, or grief and mourning for a deformed fetus: Purification Through Suffering is an eternal best-seller.

For ms-x, or for anyone who hasn’t already read this tell-it-like-it-is article by Joyce Arthur.

The only moral abortion is MY abortion.

98. moiv - 25 April 2007

Miss D —

That article reminds me of my Christmas story at Talk to Action: A Beautiful Girlhood Christmas

Vision Forum has an All-American Boy’s Adventure Catalog, just full of things that fly, shoot or explode. But girls aren’t left out.

There’s a lovely feminine selection of dolls, sewing kits and Elsie Dinsmore inspirationals for the all-American boy’s little sister.

99. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 April 2007

Hi all … takes forever to catch up on these threads.

If you didn’t see it, Olbermann tore Rudy’s head off tonight.

I spent a lot of time when I first moved out here telling people what a worthless martinet he was, so in love were most of them with the TV image. The second question, after “what was 911 like” when I first got here was “Isn’t Rudy great.” They got very upset when I popped the bubble, told them that he did everything he could to turn NYC into suburban Long Island.

Anyway, the link has the vid and the full transcript of Olbermann’s slapdown.

100. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 April 2007

how pathetically the thin-skinned, powerful rich try to protect themselves from ridicule.

101. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 April 2007

Culture of Fear: Poetry Professor Becomes Terror Suspect:

A young man from ROTC was watching me as I got into my car and drove away. I thought he was looking at my car, which has black flower decals and sometimes inspires strange looks. I later discovered that I, in my dark skin, am sometimes not even a person to the people who look at me. Instead, in spite of my peacefulness, my committed opposition to all aggression and war, I am a threat by my very existence, a threat just living in the world as a Muslim body.

Upon my departure, he called the local police department and told them a man of Middle Eastern descent driving a heavily decaled white Beetle with out of state plates and no campus parking sticker had just placed a box next to the trash can. My car has NY plates, but he got the rest of it wrong. I have two stickers on my car. One is my highly visible faculty parking sticker and the other, which I just don’t have the heart to take off these days, says, “Kerry/Edwards: For a Stronger America.”

Because of my recycling, the bomb squad came, then the state police. Because of my recycling, buildings were evacuated, classes were canceled, the campus was closed. No. Not because of my recycling. Because of my dark body. No. Not even that. Because of his fear. Because of the way he saw me. Because of the culture of fear, mistrust, hatred and suspicion that is carefully cultivated in the media, by the government, by people who claim to want to keep us “safe.”

ROTenC kid will make a fine officer in the secret police someday.

102. moiv - 25 April 2007

They probably already have him on the payroll.

103. marisacat - 25 April 2007


sorry you got caught in moderation (released two). I think it was the old “l, m, n” gettting caught.

LOL otherwise “r, s, t” get cauaght…

sigh… 😉

104. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 April 2007

Mike Daisy hunts down the Brownshirts who disrupted his show (I linked to it a few days ago). After a disturbing conversation with an administrator at the school (despite what they’d said that night, it was actually a PUBLIC SCHOOL), he finally talks to the man who confronted him and poored water all over his work:

After talking to her I performed the show for the first time since the incident happened, and I had a hard time. Because the shows aren’t scripted the relationship with my audience is key, and I was slightly hesitant–I could feel myself closing up over myself, wanting to hide. I pushed through, but it was sobering to see the damage done, real damage that extends beyond the event itself. I had hoped that it would shake off.

After the show, I reached the man who attacked my work on the phone. I would be lying if I said I wasn’t nervous–Jean-Michele didn’t even understand why I would call him; she was afraid he would simply attack me again–but I knew, especially after that second performance, that I had to try to find some communion with him. If I could look this person in the eye, hear their words and know them I would be able to move beyond that moment at the table. Never forgetting, but being able to walk forward–being able to breathe.

His name is David. At the beginning of the conversation there was a lot of silence–long, long silences that neither of us were willing to puncture. First I made him understand what he had done–that these were the only set of notes for the show, how I work with them, what he had cost me in terms of my physical work and in terms of what it had been like that next night to go out in front of them. I needed him to understand what he had taken from me.

He quietly said that he had heard me, and that he understood.

I gradually opened him up by listening, and responding, the one-on-one version of what I do with an audience. We talked about many things, for almost an hour, and step by step, his story emerged.

He has three kids–one is 21, and two are 17–and he’s terrified of the world. Terrified by violence, and sex, and he sees it all linked together–a horrifying world filled with darkness, pornography and filth that threatens his children, has threatened them all his life. They’re older now, but he says he still sees things the same way–and that the only way to protect his children and himself is to lock it all out of his life.

He also said he’s had anger-control issues for years, and sometimes acts of rage come over him–he explodes, and then has to apologize, and doesn’t know why it happens. He tries to lock it down, but it happens, and he’s ashamed of it. I told him that regardless of where we both stand, I felt very strongly that the repression of walling off everything in the world and viewing it all as filth is connecting with these outbursts, and that it isn’t going to work–until you deal with the root causes, and deal with the world, his anger and rage would keep using him.

He agreed with this.

It wasn’t all agreement–he reiterated the administrator’s line that it had been a “security issue” (his words) and that “we had to get our kids out of there”. He said at one point, “You’re probably more *liberal* than I am” and the word *liberal* had this hook on the end of it, one that he probably didn’t even intend, but it was unavoidable for him–it sounded edged, like a slur.

The whole post is really remarkable. I want very much to shake Mr. Daisy’s hand, and I would very much like to see him perform.

105. marisacat - 25 April 2007

well, this is an awkward slapwa against Harry Hesitate… but not wrong on all points..

To say that Reid has sent conflicting signals about his readiness for such discussions is an understatement. It has been impossible for his own members, let alone the White House, to sort out for more than 24 hours at a time what ground Reid is prepared to defend.

Broder in the Wapo.

106. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

moiv, if I had my way, that piece would be passed out everywhere, in little tracts. A clinic worker I knew back in the Ms. Boards days used to link to that, or something similar, all the time. I haven’t heard from her in a dog’s years, but I bet she’s still fighting the good fight, too.

107. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 April 2007

Re Mitm’s #101 – This is why I refuse to be fearful – it is a desease that shamefully infected this country enough to cause a majority of its people to sanction the slaughter of innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan and which will no doubt cause them to sanction even worse slaughter of innocents in Iran. It caused a majority of Americans to remain silent even after the horrors of Abu Ghraib were revealed and to ignore the unconstitutional internment of thousands of innocent Muslims in this country.

America’s shame – a population of cowardly, fearful people. We have learned a lot about the national psyche of a country that falsely portrays itself as tough, fearless and righteous. It is none of these things. The land of the Brave and Home of the Free – not so brave after all, and definitely not free.

That cop should be fired and the professor compensated. But that would be likely only if we lived in a country that had not lost its soul. As Mitm says, the cop will make a fine officer in the secret police.


Speaking of fear, this diary http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/25/191558/522 was troll-rated on dk because ‘we are a reality-based community’ (sickening how they repeat the propaganda like sheep) as the first commenter, Pager, said:

Conspiracy theory bullshit (8+ / 0-)
Recommended by:Paulie200, Catte Nappe, Warren Terrer, BobzCat, dennisl, stormhit, Clive all hat no horse Rodeo, FresnoKossack

You’ve been called out on it more than once and yet here you are, spewing the same bullshit.

It’s growing tiresome and bordering on trollish.

Start providing links to your VA Tech conspiracy/CIA theories or give it a rest.

This is a reality based community, not wingnut central.

“No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices.” Edward R. Murrow

by Pager on Wed Apr 25, 2007 at 04:35:18 PM PDT

What are they afraid of? Oh yes, of what the radical, extremist, worthless rightwing might thiink of them, as if anything might change what that element thinks of them as it is.

The reason I am so angry about this particular diary, is the cruelty and ignorance which is displayed by the troll kops. This diarist, if they had any interest in the people who post there, is a veteran, disabled, airc. He has two sons serving in Bush’s wars at the moment. He is opposed to the war. One son is in Iraq the other in Afghanistan. I know this because I have read, if not commented, in his diaries, most of which have been rational. He is proud of his sons even while he objects to the war.

This diary could be described as rambling, I suppose. But it surely is not a threat to anyone’s safety. Otoh, his sons are not safe, and maybe worrying about that can affect someone, as he seems to have been affected by the massacre in VT.

Would it be too much for these arrogant, snide, stupid kossacks to learn a little about the people who post there? To not attack someone without knowing a little about them first? Has this man not earned the right to express his opinion, even if it does seem a little conspiratorial? And so what if it is?

I despise these kossacks for their ignorance and cruelty to others. I noticed he did not respond to anyone as he usually does. They have hurt someone who is already hurting, hoping his sons will return safely from a war they see only as a political issue, while he lives it.

They are shameful, despicable people. He thought he was among friends. Not one of them even asked him if everything was alright with his sons. Because they don’t care enough to see him as a person. I’m sorry, I am just so angry right now.

108. marisacat - 25 April 2007

I keep this old diary of a really wonderful poster, TerrinTokyo. From July 7, 2004

They worked to alienate and it started early.

109. Miss Devore - 25 April 2007

thanks for the Olbermann reminder, Mitm. Everyone should be that furious.

moiv–wait until the Elsie Devore inspirational grrls books come out.

and the sowing manual: “A Bitch in Time Saves Us from the 5-4 Nine”

110. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

SB, they want their own imperial presidency. It is not the concept of an imperial presidency which they loathe. Only the fact that their guy isn’t at the top, which means unfair limits on the strokes and bucks they can score for themselves off the crusade du jour.

So their hostility toward the war vet and his sons is basic: He is a nobody, behaving like a somebody whose opinion matters. Whereas the “reality based” Kozzies know that an opinion has no validity unless it is first sanitized for your protection and waved through by some cardboard-hearted Blue hack in a thousand dollar suit.

Schooled in numb obedience and eager to force feed it all over, they have no patience for anyone who has a taste for something else.

No surprise there. That attitude precedes the BBBs and long after they have gone on to their well-deserved demise, it will doubtless continue. The vampires simply moving on to some other ripe, untapped artery for their nourishment.

111. bayprairie - 25 April 2007

For ms-x, or for anyone who hasn’t already read this tell-it-like-it-is article by Joyce Arthur.

Joyce arthur rocks. and UNLIKE mr boohooman who has earned a spot today on the shité listé, she once mentioned me!

112. bayprairie - 25 April 2007

In these frenzied, media-saturated times, the lure of a simpler past is more powerful than ever.

we return again to those thilling never-really-existed man-days of yesteryear. like maybe 1860 when men were men, or manly men or even lumberjacks!

and the average life expectancy was 40.

i’ve done three of the four things in the “boys only” list! never skinned a rabbit though, but then who the hell has? or would even want to? besides grandmama didn’t cottontail to them.

113. marisacat - 25 April 2007

Speaking of violence in VA… from BAR

Virginian violence is by now a many-headed hydra, yet it has a singular historical origin. Because of the necessarily schematic presentation here, I’ve reduced violence in Virginia to three salient characteristics:

(1) the preference for mass murder along ethnic lines or genocide;

(2) capitalist barbarism aimed at workers; and

(3) racial terror of the kind that in the late 1930s had an envious Hitler sending Nazi scouts to the US to closely study.

This distinctly Anglo-American style of violence is intimately familiar to most of the world’s poor and oppressed, but unfortunately it continues to be barely recognizable by most Americans themselves.

114. marisacat - 25 April 2007

marjorie Merriweather Post’s mother knew how to skin a flamingo. And taught her chef.

115. Miss Devore - 25 April 2007

new VA state motto: “Virginia is for Gunners”

Marisacat 114-a factoid of the day, there.

116. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

“It’s not exactly that we are excluding girls, but we wanted to celebrate boys, because nobody has been doing it for a long while,” he said.”

That must by why all those action movies, buddy movies, war movies, and horror movies are made. Anyone familiar with Alison Bechdel’s test for just how marginalized women and girls are in the mass media ? Sit down to a movie and count how many women are in it ? Is there more than one woman with a speaking part ? Do the women talk to each other ? About something other than the men ?

Most movies will flunk the test easily, regardless of whether they are made by a Spielberg or some hack made (in)famous in Smithee’s corner of the web.

117. ms_xeno - 25 April 2007

Oh, and MissD, your obsession with crushing nuts is not doing our already-dubious reputation in the blogosphere any good. >:

118. marisacat - 25 April 2007

MissD… think I read it in the actess granddaughter autobiography.

She also said that flamingoes are pink outside but orange inside.

Quite the neon scene in the Mar a Lago kitchens…

119. missdevore - 25 April 2007

ms_x–ok, I’m a little squirrelly sometimes.

hey-remember when catnip promised to make presents out of wool? I think she should knit/crochet the Marisacat welcome mat, where the males leave their genitals at the door. I believe it would fetch the most at a vagosphere auction.

120. marisacat - 25 April 2007

New Thread LINK

121. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 April 2007

Sit down to a movie and count how many women are in it ? Is there more than one woman with a speaking part ? Do the women talk to each other ? About something other than the men ?

That’s why I love me some Joss Whedon. Lots of smart women, talkin’, and not just about how to make their men happy, and kicking ass their own selves.

122. ms_xeno - 27 April 2007

Madman, just about everyone I know is batshit crazy about JW’s empire. Myself, I’m holding out for one of the ass-kickers to weigh more than ninety pounds soaking wet before I get all enthused. :p

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