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On to war… 26 April 2007

Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, Abortion Rights, AFRICOM, Beirut, Culture of Death, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iran, Iraq War, Israel/AIPAC, Sex / Reproductive Health, WAR!.

Iran Cartoon /irancartoon.com

It doesn’t matter the quote is from Obama, it’s all of them, the Top Three + Three Lesser Luminaries.

“Iran possessing nuclear weapons will be a major threat to us and to the region. … If we have nuclear proliferations around the world that is a profound threat to the security of the United States,” Obama said of the threat from Iran.”

“I’m not planning to nuke anybody right now,” he later joked when pressed whether he would take military action against Iran off the table.

Deep down they want a pair of Glocks and the ability to shoot off 170 rounds in 9 minutes. 

Oh right:  War waged by the Great Nation State, the Greatest on Earth, the Last Best Hope on Earth, is different.  I did get that, they keep rubbing it in.


moiv emailed this tonight, NY Daily News opinion piece from an abortion doc who practices in NY:

Questions about the decision flew around the room. Exactly which abortion methods were now illegal? When would the law go into effect? What did this mean for the patients we were scheduled to see next week?

Some were easy to answer. The law would go into effect in 25 days. Doctors would not be liable if we unintentionally violated the ban. There is no gestational age included in the legislation – meaning that abortions as early as 12 to 15 weeks will be affected. Most troubling of all, there is no exception for a woman whose health is threatened by her pregnancy.

Many of our questions had no answers – at least, not yet. Justice Kennedy’s majority opinion makes it clear that the Supreme Court expects this law to be enforced, meaning that doctors like me face stiff penalties and even jail time if we violate the act. But who will enforce the law, and how? It’s bad enough that Congress can dictate how I practice medicine. Should I expect federal marshals to supervise me in the operating room?

But the wars go on.


UPDATE, 10:35 pm

He may be a terrible man, but when he is right, he’s right:

The Squalid Politics of War

[T]he more widely quoted is the “war is lost” remark of April 19, which, read in context, amounts to a charge of rankest cynicism against President Bush and his War Cabinet.

“I believe myself that the secretary of state, secretary of defense (understands) and — you have to make your own decision as to what the president knows — that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything.”

Reid is not just saying the war is lost, but implying that Condi Rice, Bob Gates and probably George Bush know it, and are denying us the truth and cynically letting our soldiers be killed at a rate of 100 a month in what they know is a lost war.

If Reid believes this, he has a moral duty to vote to terminate any further funds for this war. Even the great Robert E. Lee, whose 200th birthday we celebrate, surrendered to stop the killing when his army began to disintegrate after the fall of Richmond in 1865.

Why would Reid not demand his party deny funds for a lost war?

Hearken now to the April 12 quote of Harry Reid: “We’re going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war. Sen. Schumer has shown me numbers that are compelling and astounding.”

One imagines Reid and Schumer sniggering in the cloakroom over the list of Republicans they can bring down if Americans are still dying in Iraq when November 2008 rolls around. […]

There’s more:

Reid and the Democrats are risking having this can tied to the tail of their donkey. For though Americans want the war to end and the troops brought home, they do not want America to lose the war. And that may explain the duplicity of today’s debate.

Reid and four Democratic candidates for president — Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Joe Biden and Chris Dodd — voted to give Bush a blank check for war. Now that the war is going badly, all five are calling for withdrawal. But neither they nor their party wants to be seen as responsible for the defeat that appears inevitable if we depart now.

Politically, cynical Harry and cynical Chuck are right.

If the war is still raging and Americans are dying at the same rate in November 2008, Republicans lose the White House and Congress. However, if U.S. forces have been defunded and withdrawn by Congress, and November 2008 rolls around with a strategic disaster and Cambodian-style bloodbath in Iraq, Reid’s party could be credibly charged with having cut and run, lost the war and caused the greatest debacle in American history. The stakes here are huge.

Democrats believe they have a winning hand on Iraq. Polls seem to confirm it. But the situation is not static. There are more cards to be dealt in this highest of high-stakes poker games. And what looks politically shrewd in April 2007 could look like suicidal folly in November 2008. [snip]

And really, Pat Buchanan, when all is said and done, is no worse than the war gamers, the 6 who stood on that South Carolina stage tonight.




1. Kevin Lynch - 26 April 2007

the guard dogs of our morality are to be ever vigilant. an absurd law banning a nonexistent medical procedure? we must stand up and cheer! it’s like they plan on paying half of the citizens to spy on the other half. well, not on their tax plan. not unless they pay just enough for a 30 minute trip to Wal*Mart each week. T shirts, daisy dukes, and semi-organic produce for everyone!

when did my waking life become a nightmare?


2. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 April 2007

Well, Obama is now being financed by former Bush ‘pioneers’ – and he’s been bending over for Aipac where he first mentioned the terrible threat that Iran poses to us.

3. liberalcatnip - 26 April 2007

Abortion news from Mexico City:

Mexico City to Allow Legal Abortions

MEXICO CITY (AP) — A new measure legalizing abortions in Mexico City was published into law on Thursday, allowing doctors to almost immediately begin terminating pregnancies in their first trimester.

City Health Secretary Manuel Mondragon said early term abortions will be legal starting Friday for women who are nearing the 12-week limit and cannot wait. Women whose pregnancies are less advanced must wait until the law’s regulations are published. Authorities have 60 days to publish them, but are expected to do it next week.

He also said that except in cases of medical emergency, women will have to prove residency in the capital, a city of 9 million – addressing the widespread belief that the law would make the capital a magnet for women across Mexico seeking abortions. Girls under 18 would need parental consent.

The law also allows gynecologists with moral objections to refuse to perform abortions.

The procedure will be free and available at 14 of the 28 city hospitals. Mondragon said each facility will be able to carry out seven abortions a day. Officials said it was not immediately clear if private hospitals would have to offer the abortions.

The country’s leading anti-abortion group has said it may block entry to clinics performing abortions and to publicly identify abortion doctors. President Felipe Calderon’s conservative National Action Party also plans to challenge the new law before the Supreme Court, which could suspend its practice until a ruling is issued…
Under the Mexico City law, women receiving an abortion after 12 weeks would be punished by three to six months in jail, and anyone performing an abortion after the first trimester would face one to three years in jail.

4. marisacat - 26 April 2007

Good thing it is free and done in hosptials. Pity you have to prove residency. It willt ake a while but they will expand it. I have read that in the schools ewhre they have sex ed it is absolutely forthright, science and reality based.

They will get there, as we regress.

5. lucidculture - 26 April 2007

maybe she’s this century’s Kilroy.

MitM: How dare you compare Mcat to the worst Styx album ever made! What, now are we going to have to go back through the atrocious catalog & hum “Babe” from Cornerstone everytime we post here? Or join in communal choruses of ‘Come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me’? [I have dibs on the falsetto harmony dammit… and I’m a double bass].

6. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 April 2007

Hearken now to the April 12 quote of Harry Reid: “We’re going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war. Sen. Schumer has shown me numbers that are compelling and astounding.”

Cynical old men with no regard for life (unless it isn’t born yet). I remember Kos posted a similar sentiment several weeks ago on the FP of DK. He blissfully dismissed the possibility of the war ending until ‘we have a new Democratic President in 2008’. He was merely echoing the party policy, imo. He probably got the memo.

Kevin, #1, it is a nightmare – but maybe there’s hope in the fact that they maybe went too far. Tonight I talked to my sister who voted twice for Bush (I know, but we nearly came to blows the last time she did it). She is finally becoming overwhelmed with the sheer extent of the corruption and the death and destruction in Iraq. I refrained from saying ‘I told you so’ because she went on to say that the ‘only presidential candidate she can believe about anything, is Kucinich’.

Only the people can stop these criminals – but it would take throwing almost all of them out of office – and starting all over again. Don’t know what else can be done.

7. lucidculture - 26 April 2007

What is most intersting to me about Pat is that he was actively involved in the Seattle anti-globalization marches of 1999 – you know the ones that put ‘black clad anarchists’ on the front pages.

Pat is a bigot of the first order [and a first order denier of civil rights to women], and he opposes globalization because he is a bigot, and he opposed the Iraq war from the get go because he believes in American isolationism… but despite his insane take on the world, he does end up on the right side of a lot of issues.

It is a sad day when I have more in common with Pat Buchanan than the party that supposedly represents my issues.

I, however, still think Pat Buchanan is an asshole.

8. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 April 2007

Hey Lucid, I like that song – 🙂

9. marisacat - 26 April 2007

oh I agree PB is a nightmare. No question, at all.

But that turkey display on the stage in SC is a big big big problem.

And so are all of the billing and cooing threads around tonight.

10. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 April 2007

It is a sad day when I have more in common with Pat Buchanan than the party that supposedly represents my issues.

I know what you mean Lucid. I find myself agreeing with him often lately. He comes to the right conclusions for the wrong reasons – it shows how bad things are that I would rather listen to him than Hillary when it comes to this war.

11. marisacat - 26 April 2007

Hillary and W are BOTH arguments against patronage, nepotism and dynasty in a supposedly democratic country.

Just dig up George III and let’s go back. Save the bloodshed.

12. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 April 2007

I don’t have the stamina to read the BBB reaction to the debate. I assumed they would be oohing and ahhing, that’s their job. Just as they were falling all over themselves yesterday about Obama’s and Hillary’s responses to Rudy yesterday. Both were terrible, weak and useless with no substance and a totally missed opportunity to educate the public about Rudolph Giuliani. But, the BBB crowd thought they great. Their standards are so low –

13. lucidculture - 27 April 2007

SB – I own every Styx album… Let’s just say say I have an ambivalent relationship with the band.

On another note, a film one of my best friends from high school co-directed that won an award at Sudance award is on HBO as we speak: TV Junkie.

I met both Rick & Tammy at the premier in NY.

It is a really fucked up movie – the best ‘reality’ movie I’ve ever seen [thanks to the editing of my good friend]. When it is on DVD I recommend it, if you have a strong stomach.

14. moiv - 27 April 2007

The procedure will be free and available at 14 of the 28 city hospitals. Mondragon said each facility will be able to carry out seven abortions a day.

That’s 98 procedures a day, in a city of 9,000,000. Not too shabby for a start-up, but before long they’ll find that they have to do better. Because that’s a very good estimate of the numbers for Dallas, which has only a small fraction of Mexico City’s population.

Not to mention how the ranks will be swelled by a soon-to-be-thriving trade in false proof of residence documents.

15. Miss Devore - 27 April 2007

runners on your mark. get set. reverse! (from rawstory)

“The political website of the New York Sun will report tomorrow that in a major reversal from an earlier position, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani now opposes civil unions between same sex partners.”

16. marisacat - 27 April 2007

Maybe Rudy could just turn his suit inside out, to honor himself. And go back to his first wife.

You know, just for fun.

17. lucidculture - 27 April 2007

Well, now that he’s been pumped full of chemicals for his prostate cancer, maybe he’s gone back to the Queens of his youth – when Italian Catholics were Italian Catholics and faggots needed a proper beating.

Then again, I don’t think it took chemotherapy for the return of that violent streak, given the bodies of innocent African American men lining city hall during his tenure.

18. marisacat - 27 April 2007

This entire run, both sides is a hideous joke.

19. marisacat - 27 April 2007

Gareth Porter via Anti-war.com:

Although the wording in the House-Senate appropriations bill appears to suggest a very limited mandate for operations against al-Qaeda, at least one influential Democratic figure, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joe Biden, intends to interpret it broadly enough to allow the administration to continue at roughly the present level of U.S. military operations in Anbar province, even after the U.S. has withdrawn its troops from the Baghdad area.

Biden is said have been responsible, in large part, for the al-Qaeda exception being included in the Democratic withdrawal plan. Last October, he said any withdrawal plans should provide for “a small residual force – perhaps 20,000 troops – to strike any concentration of terrorists, help keep Iraq’s neighbors honest and train its security forces.”

The senator apparently accepts the assumption that U.S. forces must remain in Iraq indefinitely to prevent al-Qaeda from becoming a permanent presence in Anbar and adjoining Sunni provinces. During most of 2006, the U.S. military command in Iraq has encouraged that assumption by portraying the situation in Anbar as a two-sided struggle between the U.S. counterinsurgency war and al-Qaeda.

A five-page Marine Corps intelligence report on Anbar in September 2006 reflected that view of the situation. It said Anbar province was a “vacuum that has been filled by the insurgent group al-Qaeda in Iraq.” Media reporting on the province largely conformed to that interpretation. The notion of a two-sided war in the Sunni heartland bolsters the George W. Bush administration’s political position that any talk of a timetable for withdrawal is defeatist.

In fact, however, it is far removed from reality. The majority of the important Sunni insurgent organizations represent a second anti-al-Qaeda force that has far greater potential for defeating al-Qaeda than the U.S. military does. [snip]

Not a shock. All Biden has done is facilitate the war, from 2002 on…

Pretty open beg to be VP as well, from that slobber in Hillary’s direction last night. Also fist to kiss her cheek when it was over.. then Edwards skipped over.

What schlumpfs.

20. Madman in the Marketplace - 27 April 2007

We’re so fucked.

I tried to think of some Styx songs I remembered fondly, and I couldn’t. Now Kansas, on the other hand …

Sailing away off to work, have a fun day everybody.

21. jam.fuse - 27 April 2007

Journey and Kansas both kick Styx’s ass

That Jodie Foster clip is hardcore, mmitmp

22. ms_xeno - 27 April 2007

Zero turnout at the benefit yesterday. Think the promoter could have tried just a teensy bit harder. The event was set up at the “rainy day location” even though it wasn’t raining, and there was no sign outside the hall. Small wonder potential patrons were confused. :/

This is the other place I donated work to this month, for their dance party this weekend. Maybe that will go better.

23. missdevore - 27 April 2007

sorry to hear ms_x!

oh yeah, the jodie foster thang.

24. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

If you pass over the BBBs re the debate, Kucinich and Gravel seem to have impressed people the most. I went to Gravel’s website to find out more about him. This demand to end torture should be front-page in every newspaper in the country. I have yet to hear one of the Dem front-runners, Hillary, Obama or Edwards even mention this vile policy which continues unabated. Why have they not made this a big issue in their campaigns?


Former Alaska Senator Calls for Congress to Use Its ‘Constitutional Authority.’

ARLINGTON, VA – Evoking Article 1 of the U.S. Constitution, former U.S. Senator and current Democratic Presidential candidate Mike Gravel today called on Congress to use its Constitutional authority to immediately demand an end to the Bush administration’s practice of torture on enemy combatants.

“Under the U.S. Constitution, all enemy combatants fall under the jurisdiction of the Congress. It is abhorrent that the United States government today continues to torture human beings in Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay and other secret C.I.A. prisons.”

Gravel made reference to, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11 of the U.S. Constitution which reads, ‘The Congress shall have power to..declare war..and make rules concerning captures on land and water.’

Gravel said, “The Constitution is very clear that prisoners of war are the responsibility of the Congress. The Bush administration has unlawfully taken that power without Constitutional justification. The Congress has been derelict in its duty to see that enemy combatants are treated humanely within the guidelines of the Geneva Conventions, and has been equally neglectful in its response to the President’s unlawful use of torture.”

Article 3, Section 1 (a) of the Geneva Convention prohibits, ‘Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture.’

“The practice of torture is immoral. It is un-American and it is ineffective. Information acquired as a result of torture techniques in unreliable. It endangers our soldiers in combat by encouraging reciprocity. It inflicts irreversible damage to our nation’s image and undermines our credibility among the international community.”

Senator Gravel also called upon the Bush administration to provide a full accounting of the names and locations of detainees who have been transferred from secret C.I.A. prisons whose whereabouts are unknown.

“The C.I.A. continues to hold an unknown number of prisoners in secret detention centers abroad and has refused to register those detainees with the International Red Cross or to allow visits by its inspectors. This is a blatant violation of the Geneva Conventions and contrary to international law.”

The senator also referenced former state department official and retired U.S. Army Col. Larry Wilkerson, who in November 2005 told CNN that Vice President Cheney provided ‘philosophical guidance’ that led to the use of torture. “It is unconscionable that the Vice President stood before the Congress and lobbied against a proposed ban on C.I.A. torture techniques.”

“George Bush lied when he told the American people in November 2005, ‘we do not torture.’ How many times will Congress allow the President to lie to the American people?”

Senator Gravel reaffirmed his pledge that if elected President, he will immediately move to vanquish the Military Commissions Act of 2006, signed into law by George Bush, which has made it legal for the C.I.A. to continue operating torture facilities in undisclosed, foreign countries, and for the writ of habeas corpus to be suspended for individuals who are designated “enemy combatants.”

He also has a real plan for Congress to end the war, not a useless, non-binding piece of garbage that even if Bush were to sign it, would change nothing and still continue to hand over billions of dollars to fund it.

I wonder how long he will be allowed to participate in the debates. I bet Rahm et al are furiously planning to end the primaries as fast as possible.

25. outofwater - 27 April 2007

SB- I hated the Naderites in 2000 and 2004. Now I Absolutely understand what they tried to say.

But it’s hopeless.

Too bad for your sister, but she’s right, the Democrats aren’t much better.

26. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Ms x, sorry to hear that – just checked your link, it is a worthy cause so maybe turn-out will be better for that – did the promoter advertise the event? People can’t show up if they don’t know about something.

27. missdevore - 27 April 2007

I think I’m going to metro.co.uk for all my news now; especially for their allegorical story about the dem prez debate:

“Thousands of people have been ‘fleeced’ into buying neatly coiffured lambs they thought were poodles.

Entire flocks of lambs were shipped over from the UK and Australia to Japan by an internet company and marketed as the latest ‘must have’ accessory.

But the scam was only spotted after a leading Japanese actress said her ‘poodle’ didn’t bark and refused to eat dog food.

Like hundreds of Metro.co.uk readers, we also think this has a whiff of the ‘urban myth’ about it – but hey, it’s a good story. ”

and their other top stories:

* Jesus appears on Google maps
* Man cuts off penis in restaurant
* Drunk rides horse into bank

No jokes about leaving tips!

28. ms_xeno - 27 April 2007

S.B., yeah, she did. Too little too late apparently. They’ll try again next month, though.

The ADVCL thing is through my buddy “radicalbean,” who works there and at a couple of other anti-DV places, too. She has a blog here.

29. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Outofwater, I was so desperate to get rid of Bush in 2004 I used to beg Naderites (even though I did understand what they were saying) to please help to get rid of him. Now I have to agree, they were right. It’s no use putting a band-aid on the gaping wound that is the US today. Best to let it hurt so badly that the people themselves will finally realize it needs to be operated on.

I think this is Mitm’s view (reading his exchange with MB). Now I agree. We get the government we deserve and electing Hillary or any of the others won’t change much. So this time, I will not be on board to lift a finger to help them or online as I was last time, working to get a Dem elected, unless it’s Kucinich or Gravel. I have a feeling I’m not the only one to jump ship this time.

As for my sister, I think she represents the awakening of even the most Conservative voters (she IS very Conservative but does care about things like torture, which she blinded herself to the last time but simply can’t anymore). Dems could have attracted voters like her, but I know she will not vote for any of the top Dems. Unless they really do show they are against the war and all the other immoral and criminal policies of this administration. It’s the morality issues that are finally disturbing many Conservative voters and they are looking at Dems and not seeing much difference. I’ll have to send her Gravel’s website.


Miss D, that’s a riot – I’m surprised some of those lambs weren’t on the Yrly Kos auction list. ‘no jokes about leaving tips’ – rotfl! Miss D you’re scaring the men here –

30. JJB - 27 April 2007

As always, the Puke Cannon isn’t too good on his history. There was no point for Lee to go on once Lincoln had been re-elected in November 1864. Lee stubbornly hung on for another six months, surrendering not because his army was disintegrating, but because his starving army, which was just about down to its last bullets, was finally surrounded by well-equipped forces probably at least 5 times the size of his own. BTW, I live in Virginia, right near where Lee’s family lived, and I was unaware this was the bi-centennial of his birth, so Puke Cannon doesn’t have much company in his celebrating. Nobody is paying attention to it, which is fine by me. Lee is very lucky he wasn’t executed for treason, a just and fitting sentence, IMHO.

Of course, if Reid did behave as PC insists, the latter would be on TV 5 seconds later to denounce him, and blubber and bluster the expected GOP talking points. But then if Reid possessed the political courage this country so desperately needs, he’d do it anyway, and condemn PC as the despicable blowhard that he is.

31. jam.fuse - 27 April 2007

April 26, 1937 — a day that lives in infamy

Don’t know if its been noted here but yesterday was the seventieth anniversary of the destruction of Guernica, Spain, noted here by Londonbear at eurotrib.com. According to the piece the Nazis bombed the fuck out of the city from 4.30pm to 7.45pm. Times journalist George Steer was there a few hours later:

Guernica, the most ancient town of the Basques and the centre of their cultural tradition, was completely destroyed yesterday afternoon by insurgent air raiders. The bombardment of this open town far behind the lines occupied precisely three hours and a quarter, during which a powerful fleet of aeroplanes consisting of three German types, Junkers and Heinkel bombers and Heinkel fighters, did not cease unloading on the town bombs weighing from 1,000lb. downwards and, it is calculated, more than 3,000 two-pounder aluminum incendiary projectiles. The fighters, meanwhile, plunged low from above the centre of the town to machine-gun those of the civilian population who had taken refuge in the fields.

The whole of Guernica was soon in flames except the historic Casa de Juntas with its rich archives of the Basque race, where the ancient Basque Parliament used to sit. The famous oak of Guernica, the dried old stump of 600 years and the young new shoots of this century, was also untouched. Here the kings of Spain used to take the oath to respect the democratic rights (fueros) of Vizcaya and in return received a promise of allegiance as suzerains with the democratic title of Señor, not Rey Vizcaya. The noble parish church of Santa Maria was also undamaged except for the beautiful chapter house, which was struck by an incendiary bomb.

At 2 a.m. today when I visited the town the whole of it was a horrible sight, flaming from end to end. The reflection of the flames could be seen in the clouds of smoke above the mountains from 10 miles away. Throughout the night houses were falling until the streets became long heaps of red impenetrable debris.

Just got Homage to Catalonia by Orwell the only one of his I haven’t read yet, I thimk.

32. Tuston - 27 April 2007

tips and snips:

what did Jeffrey Dalmer say to Lorena Bobbit?

“Are you gonna eat that?”

Sorrry if that was too rude.

PK’s dad is visiting and helping me remodel the ex-strip club she’s turning into a new restaurant. 12 hour days and no energy for blogging, but I’ll be around and start posting more regularly in a couple of weeks.

Until then my brief and tangential perusals of the cyber waves demonstrate the eternal validity of the old maxim, ” the more things change, the more they stay the same”

But I’d say the good news from Mexico is new and different and hopeful…

al rato vatos

33. jam.fuse - 27 April 2007

Oh yeah. My ex-girlfriend/friend was a writer/editor for a nationally distributed magazine of note for a stretch, she got to interview various luminaries in arts and politics. I can’t remember the source and probably would not and should not reveal it even if I could; but this person of or with ties to the ruling elite informed her that Hillary Clinton has been ordained to “win” the upcoming election because “they want a Democrat to bomb Iran.” Paraphrasing of course.

this post is for entertainment purposes only

34. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Lee is very lucky he wasn’t executed for treason JJB

I have a feeling, after reading this devastating attack on US Generals by an active-duty Iraq War Veteran that many in the military may feel the same way about Bush’s Generals.

I was surprised to see this in the WAPO especially after Gen. Petraeas’ testimony yesterday. All I got from his testimony was that despite the rise in Iraq’s death-toll, the rise in troop deaths, the fleeing of millions of Iraqis from their country – things really, really are improving but we’ll need to be there for YEARS to keep Al Queda, who were not in Iraq until Bush invited them in, from taking over the country. Sounded like a pack of lies to me.

Army Officer Accuses Generals of ‘Intellectual and Moral Failures’

America’s generals have repeated the mistakes of Vietnam in Iraq,” charges Lt. Col. Paul Yingling, an Iraq veteran who is deputy commander of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment. “The intellectual and moral failures . . . constitute a crisis in American generals.”

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Yingling’s comments are especially striking because his unit’s performance in securing the northwestern Iraqi city of Tall Afar was cited by President Bush in a March 2006 speech and provided the model for the new security plan underway in Baghdad.

He also holds a high profile for a lieutenant colonel: He attended the Army’s elite School for Advanced Military Studies and has written for one of the Army’s top professional journals, Military Review.

The article, “General Failure,” is to be published today in Armed Forces Journal and is posted at http://www.armedforcesjournal.com. Its appearance signals the public emergence of a split inside the military between younger, mid-career officers and the top brass.

Maybe the military will revolt – we can dream.

35. JJB - 27 April 2007


That scenario is all too believable.

36. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Think I lost a post to spam but probably just as well as I think I messed it up. MC, if I did, no need to release it – need more coffee before posting.

JJB said that Gen. Lee was lucky he wasn’t executed for treason. This WAPO article makes me wonder if many in the military today feel the same way about Petraeas and the rest of Bush’s Generals:

Army Officer Accuses Generals of ‘Intellectual and Moral Failures’

“America’s generals have repeated the mistakes of Vietnam in Iraq,” charges Lt. Col. Paul Yingling, an Iraq veteran who is deputy commander of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment. “The intellectual and moral failures . . . constitute a crisis in American generals.”

Yingling’s comments are especially striking because his unit’s performance in securing the northwestern Iraqi city of Tall Afar was cited by President Bush in a March 2006 speech and provided the model for the new security plan underway in Baghdad.

He also holds a high profile for a lieutenant colonel: He attended the Army’s elite School for Advanced Military Studies and has written for one of the Army’s top professional journals, Military Review.

The article, “General Failure,” is to be published today in Armed Forces Journal and is posted at http://www.armedforcesjournal.com. Its appearance signals the public emergence of a split inside the military between younger, mid-career officers and the top brass.

They took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, not some law-breaking Unitary Executive. Miller (treat the Iraqis like dogs), Sanchez, Petraeas all of them are a disgrace, imo. This guy deserves credit for speaking out about it. I hope more follow his example.

37. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Lol, Tuston!

Good luck with the restaurant. Maybe when it’s finished we could consider holding our Yrly Vag convention there! As a tribute to its previous incarnation we could invite a pole dancer from dk, you know, just as an example of the goals women of different intellectual ability aspire to! Lol!

38. brinn - 27 April 2007

‘mornin’ vags and vipers — so I’m sitting here wondering to myself: Gravel. Do I go there? I stood up and cheered at my TV last night when I heard THIS, how the hell did they get here indeed?

But I am so sick and tired of this entire fucking system, I know its broken, I know we’re fucked, and yet….and yet, this man actually stirred something in me, even if just for a moment.

What are ya’ll’s thoughts?

39. Miss Devore - 27 April 2007

good hearing on wage discrimination on CSPAN now.

the question was asked of the assembled–how many women have had the experience of training someone to be thier boss?

40. Miss Devore - 27 April 2007


41. jam.fuse - 27 April 2007

Got tears in my eyes listening to Gravel — never heard of him ’til this morning, thanks to you all — s’why I surf, not having watched teevee at home since nine eleven. He’s got a great name, but too bad he’s not a bit more young and virile looking, really hate to say it. DId you see the wolf-grins of the other candidates while he was speaking? Creepy as hell.

42. Miss Devore - 27 April 2007

I hate this woman who is pooh-poohing lower pay for women. Essentially saying that if you raise women’s pay, then no one will want to hire them.

43. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Brinn, cruising around the blogosphere, Gravel seems to be generating a lot of interest since last night. I fully expect him to be declared a ‘radical leftie lunatic’ by the BBB, if he hasn’t already (haven’t checked them yet).

But that doesn’t coincide with the facts – also, he’s got experience with criminal administrations and their illegal wars:

In 1971, he waged a successful one-man filibuster for five months that forced the Nixon administration to cut a deal, effectively ending the draft in the United States. He is most prominently known for his release of the Pentagon Papers, the secret official study that revealed the lies and manipulations of successive U.S. administrations that misled the country into the Vietnam War.

According to his website, he’s for single payer healthcare, making education a priority and fully funding the SS trust fund. He’s also for a flat tax, which I know nothing about so I’ll leave that to the economists. I can barely balance my checkbook, I’m ashamed to say.

But most importantly (at least in these times) he’s for ending this war and has a plan to do it, and for immediately ending the practice of torture which he rightly calls ‘immoral’ and ‘illegal’. What is there not to like about him compared to the other choices?

I think I’ll donate to him – he needs to stay in the debates. Check out his website for more info. I linked to it above.

44. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

I hate this woman who is pooh-poohing lower pay for women. Essentially saying that if you raise women’s pay, then no one will want to hire them

Americans are so complacent. They get what they deserve imo. Defeatist is the best word to describe them. That is the same defeatist philosophy promoted by the Dem Party and their sychophants on the so-called Liberal Blogs.

Re ending the war:

‘we don’t have the votes to over-ride a veto’ and on impeachment:

‘we don’t have the votes to convict in the Senate’

So let’s just maintain the status quo, let’s not rock the boat! I hate it. They have zero fighting spirit and that’s why we are where we are. They cannot imagine challenging anything unless they KNOW beforehand that they will win. Imagine if throughout history, people had thought that way? How much would never have been accomplished?

Cowards without vision do not make good leaders. They just make excuses.

45. brinn - 27 April 2007

SB — yeah, I read through his website, and a few other background pieces on him. I gotta say, a man who can sustain a fillibuster all by his ownself and actually affect change impresses the shit out of me atm. I have to wonder why he isn’t running independent — though I can probably guess: an opportunity to be in the debates, and a stubborn refusal to let the party he once admired to be abandoned. I hope he stays in the debates for the next year and then switches to indy…hey, if’s good enough for Joe Lieberaman…

Madman, what’s your take? [no rush, just wonderin’!]

jam.fuse — yeah, creepy as hell is right. The automaton candidates. Obama and Hillary were just flat out nauseating “quick reprisals are necessary” (HRC), “I don’t plan on nuking anyone today” (BO) — jesus p. christ on toast!

46. brinn - 27 April 2007

Hey jam.fuse — if you haven’t seen this one, it ain’t a tear jerker, but its damn good too!

47. brinn - 27 April 2007

So, erm, I may be an idjit here, but when did those little “edit” links next to everyone’s comments start showing up? and what does that mean?!


48. jam.fuse - 27 April 2007

“I don’t plan on nuking anyone today”

Wonder if H-bomb-a just noooked his own campaign with that idiotic remark?

MLK, Malcolm, doing backflips in their burial vaults

49. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Lol, Brinn, I was afraid to say anything about the little ‘edit’ thingies’ in case they were there all along and I just hadn’t noticed them. Didn’t want confirmation of the current state of my mind! But, since you brought it up, does it mean we can now edit a post? I clicked on it and all I got was a way to sign up for an account.

Jam-fuse Got tears in my eyes listening to Gravel

You’re not the only one it seems – just checked DU to see what they were saying about the debate. Check out this thread, they’re pretty excited about Gravel also and unlike DK they will not be troll-rated for daring to say so:

democraticunderground thread on Gravel

Hot DAMN this Gravel guy is awesome!
I’ve never heard of him before tonight… but he is spot-freaking-on!


hwmnbn (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-26-07 07:35 PM
Response to Original message
9. I think we have a new star….

solid, straightforward, no bullshit!!


Ava (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-26-07 08:23 PM
Response to Original message
35. he’s blowing me away!
absolutely awesome!

shame though that i don’t think he could win the general election – even though i do love what he has to say


There are the usual nay-sayers, and I’m sure Rahm and Schumer are working hard to get him out of the debates and sending memos telling the big blahhgers to smear him, but the initial reaction everywhere I looked is very positive for him.

50. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Just lost another post to spam but it was a link to a thread on DU about Gravel which I found when looking for reaction to the debate. If this gets through, you can read their reaction here. They too are pretty impressed for the most part:

Democraticunderground thread on reaction to Gravel

51. marisacat - 27 April 2007


I got a couple of your s out of moderation, but not sure what they said… still need to read the thread…

There was 150 in spam but I read them… will check again..



Oh Pat will never be anything but what he is. He’s not going to let go of the embrace of Lee at this point. I remmeber old engravings and modern post cards in the South in the 50s of Grant surrendering to Lee. That is not going to end for Pat’s strata.

Reid is a horror. And his classic place of sell out is out of the camera’s eye and then to display what is no more than and old man’s fractiousness in public.

PERFECT leader for the Demorats.

52. marisacat - 27 April 2007

… the damned Generals. Pity they cannot be tried for treason. But “following orders” is the order of the day. Then “support the troops”.

Suicide by president.

53. marisacat - 27 April 2007


Just got two of yours out of spam. Still going thru it..

54. marisacat - 27 April 2007

I don’t know about “edit”… I see them all the time, but not sure they should be visible for commenters.

If someone clicks on it and it leads to the “backstage” let me know….


I use “edit” to blockquote for someone or fix a link.

55. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Thaniks, Marisa – the one on the Generals was messed up anyway so I posted another one. Yes, they should be tried for treason imo. Especially Miller and Sanchez but instead they received ‘Medals of Freedom’ airc.

There is so much news re the US Attorneys and Waxman is busy, busy with just about everything. I was going to post some really disturbing revelations about two women US Attorneys who ended up dead within weeks of each other in 2004. They were looking into corruption in the Medical Supply industry and at least one of them had issued subpoenas. Then, one is found dead in her pool, the other in her home. Both deaths were said to be ‘accidental’ I think.

Even more disturbing regarding that case, the other three US Attorneys who were working with those women on corruption in the Medical Hospital Supply business, were on the list of fired, dismissed or forced to resign US Attorneys. So all five of the Corruption Unit was eradicated and the cases no longer pursued.

Interesting that such distinguished women US Attorneys, working on corruption cases, should end up dead while their male colleagues were forced out of office. And it’s hard to find much if any information on their deaths through google. The press doesn’t seem to have said much about it at the time.

I lost all the info on this latest case, but will try to find it again. It seems many of them had good reason to be afraid and to remain silent about what was happening in the DOJ.

Carol Lam should consider herself lucky that she was merely dismissed. I suppose a pile-up of the bodies of dead US Attorneys might have gotten the attention of even our clueless press after a while. So threatening their careers became the weapon of choice.

Btw, Carol Lam has been honored by the Bar Association –

How much more do we need to know before the country rises up and demands the impeachment of these criminals? And imagine what we don’t know yet!

56. marisacat - 27 April 2007

Oh Sabrina

that is so interesting about the dead women states attys.. If you assemble it again, please post the info.

Ugh I know aobut losing info… When Roberts was being confirmed I had about 8 or 10 links on their personal confessor Msg Vaghi, friends iwth McCloskey of the Opus Dei DC Catholic Center the one who officiates at the highlevel Catholic conversion baptisms… lots of links on their conservative Catholic alliances, The Carroll Group and others. And he most certainly WAS a member of the Federalist Society… the Democrats were fools to let it spin in “is he or is he not”. He was. is.

Lost it in a computer blip. It had taken just too much time to collect it all. Could not manage to reconstruct it.

57. lucidculture - 27 April 2007

He’s also for a flat tax, which I know nothing about so I’ll leave that to the economists.

Unfortunately, a very bad idea. The less you make the greater your effective tax burden. Let’s say the flat tax is 10% to make it easy. If you make $20,000 a year, you pay $2,000 flat – no deductions. If you make $200,000/year you pay $20,000 flat – no deductions.that leaves person A with $18,000 and person B with $180,000. That $2,000 hurts person A a hell of a lot more than the $20,000 hurts person B [not to mention in our current tax system – which isn’t even progressive enough, person A would likely pay nothing in income tax and person B – with all current deductions & good tax planning would only pay slightly more than they would pay in the example above].

It shifts the burden of taxation to the poor and middle class, away from the rich.

58. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Yesss!! James Comey has been called back to testify in the DOJ scandal. He is the Acting AG who appointed Fitzgerald and who refused to go along with Bush’s illegal spy program. After his refusal, Andrew Card and Abu Gonzales went to see Ashcroft in the hospital to try to get his cooperation, but even he refused.

The last time Comey was to testify before Congress, the Republicans stopped the testimony. This time, that won’t happen, it seems.

If you never read this article in Newsweek which was published in 2005, it’s worth reading. I remember reading it at that time and never really forgot it because James Comey was sending out huge signals that something was very wrong at the DOJ when he gave his resignation speech. I think what we heard so far is only the tip of a very ugly iceberg:

Palace Revolt


That was two years ago. The article stayed in my mind after I read it and it occurred to me then that not all Republicans were the enemy. While I disagree with Comey on many things such as his initial support for the Patriot Act (I hope he understands now why it was dangerous to give such power to the government) I think he has integrity and respects the rule of law.

His testimony should be very revealing and I bet the WH is not at all happy that he’s finally get a chance to speak out. He had tears in his eyes when he gave that farewell speech and thanked his ‘missing’ colleagues. It must have been hell to have witnessed the destruction of your country’s judicial system and not be able to do anything about it except to resign rather than participate in the crimes.

59. wu ming - 27 April 2007

there is a freedom is not running to win, that opens the door for telling the truth. i hope gravel hangs in there long enough to make the rest of them twitch for the entire race. to my ears, he’s a far, far better speaker than kucinich.

his national sales tax is pretty regressive, and i’m not all that excited about the national initiative idea he’ talking about, but having him in there just to say stuff like last night is critical. it needs to be said.

i suspect they’ll try to force him off stage, from now on.

60. marisacat - 27 April 2007

got lucid out of moderation and Sabrina out of spam…

61. marisacat - 27 April 2007

I was surprised they let Gravel on last night. He originally came down from Alaska a few months ago, Granny D sponsored him (fi you can believe this Granny D used to post diaries at Dkos, years ago) and she sponsored him to some Dem clubs and meetings around NH… then he began to break out a bit.

I think they let him on to use as a counter point. If they let him on again, they will openly laugh at him, I would guess.

To be frank I see little difference between Pat Buchanan and Hillary. And to me, OBama and Edwards are faking it, badly. A congealing fuckball. What else is new…

Power hungry mongrels, all of them.

62. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

I know, I hate when that happens, Marisacat. I had gathered a few links from different blogs last night. It is an explosive story, because it involves the Medical Care system, and the huge costs which this case reveals, which were never necessary but were all approved of by ‘law’ in order to provide billions in profit to cronies of this administration . And it was reported, the corruption investigation that is, in the NY, I think, but then just faded away after the resignations of the male USAs and the deaths of the two women. Until now.

With Gonzales weakened there seems to be an explosion of subpoenas going out in the US A cases, the Abramoff affairs and other stalled investigations. It’s hard to keep up.

I’m looking for the info and will post it before I leave for work.

Btw, just lost another post to spam Lol! It was about James Comey finally being called back to testify in the US A affair. Great news imo.

Oh, and Tenet is going to be on 60 minutes. He’s written a book and is apparently claiming he was used as a scapegoat. He can’t seem to make up his mind re his alleged ‘slam dunk’ remark. He originally denied it but now says it was ‘mis-interpreted. Sorry, but I remain furious with him and with Colin Powell. They should have quit, both were in the most critical positions to help stop this administration’s lies about Iraq. Both chose to go along.

I watched every hearing Tenet testified at and was always thoroughly confused and frustrated by his conflicting statements, one minute he gave you hope, the next he was supporting the administration. Too late for him to expcect understanding now. Too many people have died. He’s lucky he can live a comfortable life, unlike the victims of the lies he helped to disseminate. He, Hillary, Powell, all of them.

63. bayprairie - 27 April 2007

Ioz nails it [Edit]

cruise missle liberalism indeed [Edit]

i noted those edit hyperlinks too [Edit]

must be [Edit] recent, eh? prolly a stylesheet bug [Edit]

hope it doesn’t get worse. [Edit]

64. marisacat - 27 April 2007


at various places I have been reading eye witness memories of Guernica.. I think an effort has been made to collect the small number left who witnessed the day and the dying.

One ws a recollection of a young man who fled to a bomb shelter… crept out as the sounds of the bombing died away…expecting to find the town in rubble and of course found it in flames.

We seem to want to make hell on earth.

In the midst of all of that, I heard Petraeus on Charlie Rose last night.

The mediocre face of mass murder. Nothing else to call it.

They traded cheap shots for an hour.

65. marisacat - 27 April 2007

Nir Rosen has a post up at Mother Jones, focus on contractors and mercs in Iraq:

The South Africans are popular with U.S. companies, and even the U.S. government, which uses them as bodyguards for high-ranking officials. “If losses are taken, it’s not soldiers killed,” Bertus says, explaining the appeal of using contractors, “and if civilians are killed in the crossfire, then they can’t blame it on the Army”—though he claims that is less likely to happen when the contractors are former cops like himself. “If you are a soldier it’s straightforward: Wipe out everything in front of you. Police must use discretion, and policemen are better drivers.” I met him while he was temporarily posted in comparatively peaceful Kurdistan, and he was getting bored. “I miss the action,” he said. “I miss Baghdad, the sweat on my hands.”

Quite a few South African bodyguards work for DynCorp, a Falls Church, Virginia-based company that has drug interdiction contracts in Colombia and Afghanistan and works in Iraq to protect U.S. officials and train Iraqi police. (DynCorp has had its share of scandals, including, during one excursion, providing cnn’s Tucker Carlson an AK-47 and commandeering an Iraqi gas station. In February, federal auditors cited DynCorp for wasting millions on projects, including building an unapproved, Olympic-sized swimming pool at the behest of Iraqi police officials.) DynCorp has taken over the Baghdad Hotel on Saadun Street, which comes under regular attack despite the concrete blast walls that ring it. Iraqis protect the perimeter while inside the bodyguards are Americans, South Africans, and, chatting in Portuguese, former Angolans who’d fought alongside the South Africans and been granted citizenship by the apartheid government but who no longer feel welcome in South Africa either.

66. lucidculture - 27 April 2007

We seem to want to make hell on earth.

What was it in Sartre’s No Exit – ‘Hell is… other people’.

Well we certainly seem to be hastening the second coming… ‘and what rough beast’ and so on an so on.

Like the baby Markos says, ‘I can’t stand people who envision peace’. Hey – maybe he is the antichrist.

67. marisacat - 27 April 2007

And a piece in Asia Times on global arms dealing.

India became one of the first suppliers to break openly with global arms controls when it scrapped a blacklist of “sensitive” states in 2002. Its manufacturers have since started exporting to Myanmar and Sudan, which are both under UN and European Union arms embargoes.

However, it is not only unscrupulous Third World countries that are adding to the stockpile of 640 million weapons. Nearly half of all weapons sold to developing countries come from the US, compared with 15% for Russia and 13% for Britain.

A study by the World Policy Institute found that the United States had transferred weaponry to 18 of the 25 countries involved in an ongoing war, while more than half of the buyers were defined as undemocratic by the US State Department’s annual Human Rights Report.

Washington usually justifies the sales as part of its “war on terrorism”, though many suspect it has a deeper goal of checking the expanding military power of China.

Significantly, the Pentagon is selling the F-16 fighter jet – a weapon that is regarded as having a strategic role in arsenals and is usually made available only to close allies – to both Pakistan and its bitter rival India.

As arms dealers the world over stand up and CHEER!!

“F-16s with advanced medium-range air-to-air missiles are not for fighting al-Qaeda. They are for fighting India,” Wade Bouse, research director at the Arms Control Association, said after the Pakistani deal went through.

“We are creating our own market by selling to both sides of regional conflicts.”

68. liberalcatnip - 27 April 2007

DynCorp also had the contract to train the police in Iraq and Afghanistan. Look how well that’s worked out. The war profiteers are having a grand ole time, as usual.

I linked to this Counterpunch piece about Gravel here last week.

In an interview with Sen. Gravel (video link below) he repeated a point he made in his speech to the Democratic National Committee arguing that anyone who voted for the use of force resolution that allowed President Bush to invade Iraq has shown they do not have the judgment to serve as president of the United States. Gravel, during the build-up to the war, publicly opposed the invasion. In an interview on MSNBC he insisted that intelligence showed there were indeed no weapons of mass destruction, Iraq posed no threat to the United States and that invading Iraq was against America’s national interests.

Not only has Gravel opposed the so-called “surge” but has been disheartened and disappointed with the Democratic Party response saying “The democratic majority must decide on a unified policy to get out of Iraq. Non-binding resolutions will not get the job done.” He urges the Democrats “to respond to the will of the American people and demand an end to the Iraq war.”

In our interview Gravel said that the way out of Iraq begins with the Congress passing a law that ends the war. Gravel noted that the Congress has the power to declare war and therefore has the power to end the war. He recognizes that such a law would create a “constitutional confrontation” with President Bush but he sees that as an essential step in ending the war with our government made up of equal branches of government.

He believes the House of Representatives would pass such a bill and that in the Senate the Republicans will attempt a filibuster, but “once the Republicans filibuster in the Senate, it will be clear to the American people and the media that the Republicans are continuing the war.” He urges Majority Leader Harry Reid to bring the bill up for cloture every day to build pressure on the Republicans. Gravel expects the Republicans will wither in less than a month.

Of course, Gravel recognizes this is likely to lead to a veto by President Bush but that is the constitutional confrontation that is needed between the Congress and the President to end the war. But, Gravel says, this would be a clear “unambiguous vote to end the war. The eyes of the nation would be riveted on that vote. There would be no place to hide from the judgment of the people in 2008.” He predicts Congress would override the president.

He’s willing to go out on that limb while 99.9% of the rest of the Dems are too scared to even climb the tree.

69. marisacat - 27 April 2007

Leader Reid and Speaker Pelosi want none of that.

Gotta keep the mittel class coffee table clear for magazines. or something.

70. liberalcatnip - 27 April 2007

#67. And now Bushco is blasting Putin for backtracking on the conventional arms treaty while the US remains opposed to the Small Arms Treaty. Flipping hypocrites.

Although Putin did not mention it on Thursday, Russia is angry that in 2001 the Bush administration unilaterally pulled out of the Anti-ballistic Missile Treaty of 1972. On Monday, Putin’s defense minister, Anatoly E. Serdyukov, firmly rejected an offer from the visiting American defense secretary, Robert M. Gates, to share anti-missile technology, which had been intended to assuage Moscow’s opposition to Washington’s missile-defense plan.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, speaking in Oslo at a gathering of top diplomats from NATO countries, reacted coldly to Putin’s speech. “These are treaty obligations, and everyone is expected to live up to treaty obligations,” she said.

Rice also dismissed Russian concerns that introducing new military technology to Europe could upset the balance of forces there and set off an escalation that could lead to a new Cold War. She called such claims “purely ludicrous” and said the scale of the proposed missile defense system was obviously far too small to defend against the Russian nuclear arsenal.

Though the step by Putin was incremental, it was highly symbolic and reminiscent of brinkmanship in the Cold War.

Yeah. Everyone but the US is expected to live up to treaty obligations.

71. marisacat - 27 April 2007

Dahr Jamail in e Intifada:

Lebanon: Human Rights/Development:


By Dahr Jamail, Electronic Lebanon, 27 April 2007

SRIFA, Southern Lebanon, 27 April (IPS) – Close to a
million unexploded bombs are estimated to litter southern
Lebanon, according to UN forces engaged in the hazardous
task of removing them. The United Nations Interim Force In
Lebanon (UNIFIL) was created by the Security Council in
1978 to confirm an Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon and
restore international peace and security. After the war
last year it has a new job on its hands.

eIntifada link

72. marisacat - 27 April 2007

I just saw this in a FAIR email:

If you missed the April 25 airing of the Bill Moyers documentary “Buying the War,” there’s good news:

the full program and transcript are available online:

PBS link

73. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Okay, I found some information on the Medical Supply corruption investigation again and the two female US As who died shortly after it began.

Medicare Fraud and the USAt. Firings

It all started here:

In 2000 Samuel Lipari of Kansas City, Missouri started the company Medical Supply Chain. It’s purpose: to allow hospitals to buy supplies directly from manufacturers, thereby bypassing the huge health care Group Purchasing Organizations (GPO’s), primarily Novation and Neoforma, and saving health care consumers, by his estimate, $80 billion a year.

So in 2002 Lipari applied for a loan:

Samuel Lipari, CEO of the Missouri firm, said that his company’s troubles began in 2002. Lipari sought funding from US Bank to start MSC. The loan, which seemed like a sure thing, was denied. US Bank cited a money laundering provision of the USA PATRIOT Act as the reason

From there, Libari discovered that the Bank had a relationship with a huge Medical Supply Co. called Novation & Neoforma, through a third party. He and his attorney decided that they were turned down unfairly, to protect the interests of the big Corp. and filed a lawsuit in Oct. 2002.

I’m skipping over details and moving on to 2004 when the Justice Dept. in Dallas began an investigation into the medical supply industry with Novation at the center of the investigation. But the investigation was interrupted:

The investigation wasn’t helped when two federal prosecutors involved in the case died weeks apart from each other.

Thelma Colbert, who headed a civil litigation unit of the Fort Worth DOJ office that prosecuted companies involved in defrauding government-funded programs, drowned in her swimming pool in July 2004. The Tarrant County medical examiner’s office determined the death was accidental.

Then, on Sept. 13, 2004, Shannon Ross, the criminal chief for the U.S. Attorney’s office in Dallas, who reportedly had signed the GPO subpoenas, was found dead in her Rowlett home. In that case, the Dallas County medical examiner ruled the death to have been from natural causes.

I’ll continue in the next post in case there is too much html.

74. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Okay, just lost a post on the Medical Supply corruption investigation and the two women US As who died – maybe it had too much html?

75. marisacat - 27 April 2007

Don’t miss Ezra, full member of Treats and Sweets in TAPPED:


Thinking about Sam’s post yesterday, why is Mike Gravel included in the debates? Dennis Kucinich, at least, is a sitting congressman, and a leading member of an important caucus in the House of Representatives. Mike Gravel was a Senator from Alaska. In the 70s.. And unlike the threat Sharpton posed — or was assumed to pose — in 2004, Gravel’s exclusion will not lead aging white men to believe the Democratic Party is hostile towards their involvement.

So why not take this guy out? He’s running a single issue candidacy on a platform that may well be unconstitutional and he takes time that could be used for more serious candidates to disseminate their message. What merits his inclusion?

–Ezra Klein

LINK, in case you want to read the comments.

What makes the Kos and Kos Clones think they are at all progressive, liberal, left – much less small “d” democratic.

Because they are not.

So Ezra, Paris next year courtesy of BlogAids, Kos Bowers Armstrong DavidNYC et al???

What else can they do for you? Blogger spot iwth some candidate/advertiser/SnotRoots “candidate’ who lays cash on Armstrong?

Good lord. Shysters, all.

76. marisacat - 27 April 2007


it was in Spam, got it out.

77. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Rotfl, Marisacat – they are so, so predictable! I have not even bothered with them today, mainly because, why bother when I knew they would target someone who is telling the truth about this war.

Who are these people? How dare HE or any of them attempt to keep any candidate out of the race. What an arrogant little shit, in fact all of them.

Now, I really am motivated to keep Gravel in the race. That they are so scared of hearing the facts about this war, that they care more about their goddamn party than about the lives of the troops, the Iraqis and their country totally condemns them.

But his focus on Gravel is proof that Gravel threatens the lies we are being told by the rest of the ‘leadership’ and that people really are responding to anyone who dares to tell the truth!

Memo to Ezra and the rest of the apologist wannabes. They do NOT speak for the American people. Gravel, on this issue, does!

Next will be the smears – just like the right, there really is no difference. Has Ezra argued against the points Gravel made, or just decided that neither we the people or Gravel himself have a right to choose our own candidates?

How fucking dare they attempt to speak for the rest of us. Their ‘influence’ extends to about, tops, 2000 ‘addicts’ and that’s it. Take a look at the polls morons, the people are with Gravel and Kucinich on this war, not your precious party leadership.

78. marisacat - 27 April 2007

While I was there, I snicked this from Ezra:


Chapel Hill, North Carolina – Senator John Edwards released the following statement about Rudy Giuliani’s comments that Republicans are best suited to deal with issues like poverty, health care, and terrorism.

“Rudy Giuliani needs to put an end to his campaign to divide America and concentrate on offering solutions to the big challenges we face. Poverty, health care, the war in Iraq – these are critical issues that deserve serious proposals, not political attacks.”

OK… John Obama and Barack Edwards can run as a fusion candidate with Rudy as VP.

Otherwise why go soft on the “opposition” (hell, even Ezra got this one).

The Democrats are doing lousy on a good day, and utter shit on a bad day, on poverty, health care and war in Iraq.

Most days they do and say nothing. maybe we should elect a Blackberry.

79. marisacat - 27 April 2007


Fortunately ALL SEVEN of the comments disagreed with him.

I was really glad to see that.

80. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Thanks, Marisacat – sorry I’m just so fed up with these ingorant, moronic, arrogant, amateur wannabes. Who are they so beholden to that they don’t care about their country? I just wish they would stop calling themselves ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive’.

They remind me of Tenet and Powell, selling their souls for ‘access’. It is ‘influence’ we need, not access. Access is easy, but they are so easily wowed by a famous (or infamous in reality) name it makes them so easy to use.

Speaking of Tenet. He should have stayed in hiding, Waxman has called him before a Committee to discuss the Niger Uranium claim made by the Bush administration.

In his book, he claims that when he said ‘slam dunk’, he didn’t mean that the evidence of WMDs was a slam dunk, but that ‘selling the war to the people’ could be a slam dunk. Lol, and that’s supposed to be better? Also, according to the reviews, he still ‘likes Bush’ but blames Cheney, Feith et al for being used as a scapegoat. What a sell-out. He’s only angry because they dumped him.

81. lucidculture - 27 April 2007

SB – that looks like corporate foul play to me. I’m sure this type of shit happens far more often than we think.

I don’t know if any of you know the story of Mark Purdey, but he has proven that Mad Cow Disease [and other CJD type nervous disorders like Kuru] come from an excess of a certain type of industrialized manganese in the system along with a deficiency of copper. His results have been duplicated at respected labs in both Britain and the US. He started on his quest because he was an organic cattle farmer who refused the British government mandated 1987 warble fly treatment for his cattle – none of his cows got mad cow. His interest piqued because the treatment was malthion [that nasty precursor to nerve agents that they spray in this country for West Nile]. Malthion leaches copper out of the body. Alternatively the cattle feed of the time was extremely high in manganese content. He was able to synthesize in a Cambridge lab the exact prions found in mad cow by stressing cells with excess manganese and insufficient copper. When he came forward with his results, not only was he ejected from any proceedings on the British government scientific committee to investigate mad cow, but there were several attempts made on his life. He believes there is a collusion between the British government and the manufacturer of malthion [a shady outfit who’s address is a PO box in Texas] & that it was the company who made the attempts on his life.

His research would open up the chemical industry to all sorts of suits because similar chemicals are all over the place & are likely linked to any number of chronic and fatal nervous type diseases. Mark is a hero & someday the truth will come out.

82. liberalcatnip - 27 April 2007


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No. The new Nader is Mike Gravel. The insane batshit Nader-loving crazies are all ga-ga over him today.

Be a Strong Democrat, and you will have my support. Be a Weak Democrat, and you can have Joe Lieberman’s support.

by Lucius Vorenus on Fri Apr 27, 2007 at 12:40:25 PM PDT

Then they move on to talking about how “hot” Kucinich’s wife is – in the same diary where LV asks if dkos has “grown up”.


83. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Glad to hear that, MC, will take a look –

What a weak statement from Edwards, worse, to suggest that Rudy, the failed Mayor of NYC, who presided over the worst terrorist attack in its history, can focus on solving ANYTHING is ludicrous. He needs to be called back before a Congressional Committee (as the 9/11 families have demanded) and forced to answer for his dereliction of duty to the people of NYC on and leading up to 9/11.

They are treating this thug with kid gloves. I just don’t get it. This is an excellent opportunity to expose him to the country for what he is. As happened with his best partner in crime, formerly known as ‘America’s Top Cop’, Bernie Kerik. It’s not hard to do, there is so much evidence. And it’s long past time to explode the myth of ‘America’s Mayor’.

84. marisacat - 27 April 2007

Might as well laugh:

Ranger Ranger, who’s got a Bush Ranger… David Sirota sounding more like his old self.

Plus Brancaccio on NOW did a piece on Mack (Ranger at issue, LOL and the CEO of Morgan Stanley) and some dastardly doings … SEC first investigated then waved off the very interesting investigator atty on the case. he was fired.

And NOW made clear, Dems will NOT be going near Wall St esp hedge fund corruption, at all.

WIll hunt up the NOW link.

Might as well laugh.

85. marisacat - 27 April 2007


thanks for going back and finding all of that again..

Libcatnip … thanks for all the links and snips

86. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Omg, that is funny, Catnip! Luscious Vagina calling someone else ‘batshit crazy’! Rotfl!

As I said, they are as predictable as the radical rightwing – the same talking points, the same smear tactics when someone threatens their ‘truths’.

Gravel got under their thin skins! I love it. He really did make an impression on the people who matter, the voters. He exposed the hypocrisy. Faxed talking points and memos must be flying around the ‘left blogosphere’ today from Rahm and Chuck.

87. marisacat - 27 April 2007

Btw, I have linked to this before, but it is a [unblocked] 2004 article in Harper’s on how, for the purposes of the pro life crowd, intact d&e rose to their consciousness.

What a pity.

I was reminded of it as the same author, Cynthia Gorney, has an updated piece in Am Prospect, Law and Revulsion:

But the ban on D&X raises serious questions that will have to be answered now by physicians themselves, and by the individual prosecutors who must decide whether to make alleged Partial Birth Abortion Ban violations a part of their caseloads.

If a doctor is performing a standard D&E, for example, and the fetus turns out to be smaller than expected and slides whole into the vaginal canal, does that doctor now need to dismember it quickly, before it starts coming out, or else retain legal counsel as soon as the procedure is over? What if there’s an extracted D&E part some prosecutor decides to characterize as a “living fetus” because the part, as they occasionally do, contained upon removal a still-beating heart?

The ban says “deliberately and intentionally,” so there’s one clear line of defense, but what will the doctor have to do to prove there was neither deliberation nor intent?

88. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Thanks for rescuing that post, MC.

This really is a big story and it was covered in the media, although stretched out over so much time, it would have been hard to make the connections.

It is infuriating that this particular investigation was interrupted. This man, Samuel Lipuri, never gave up. He’s still writing letters to Congress. He should have been a hero, ready to save billions of dollars in healthcare costs, but greed and corruption got in the way. There are good people, like those two women US Attorneys and their three male colleagues.

All five of them were gone, two dead, three dismissed or resigned, within three months and the investigation stopped. Novation has GE connections also. They are vultures and I hope they are put out of business which probably would have happened had the investigation been allowed to continue.

Btw, Carol Lam was also investigating Medicare Fraud. We’ve been living in a lawless country for the past several years and I wonder how many people ‘paid the price’ as James Comey said with tears in his eyes, while trying to live up to their own principles. I try not to hate anyone, but it’s getting harder and harder not to.


This link to Samuel Lipori’s site has a number of media articles if you scroll down to the bottom, covering the case and the deaths of the two women.

Medical Supply Chain

I hope this is one case that Congress goes after in the US Attorney scandals.

I don’t know if those two women’s deaths were an incredible coincidence, certainly lucky for Bush and his cronies, or if there was foul play, but nothing would surprise me. Either way, I bet they scared other US Attorneys who couldn’t be sure and who were probably aware of how ruthless this administration is.


Here is a tribute to Thelma Quince Colbert. So sad, no matter what caused her death:


Alumni Call For Scholarship As Tribute to
the Late Thelma Quince-Colbert

She was a 2004 inductee into the Law Center’s Alumni Hall of Fame and presented the 1998 Distinguished Alumnus Award. Thelma Quince-Colbert, ‘75, was the first editor-in-chief of the Southern University Law Review, a summa cum laude law graduate, and first in her class.

As a member of the National Bar Association,Quince-Colbert was a hard worker whose presence at the yearly Southern University Law Center Alumni Breakfast was guaranteed.

As head of the Affirmative Civil Enforcement Unit, a section in the Fort
Worth, Texas, office of the United States Attorney, where she worked from 1990 until her death, Quince-Colbert’s job was to pursue persons who had defrauded the government. Her passion for her work, never overcame her compassion for people.

Upon learning of her untimely death on July 20, 2004, fellow alumni
came to the agreement that a life of such compassion must be remembered.

In this regard, a foundation has been set up in Quince-Colbert’s honor at her beloved Southern University Law Center.

89. brinn - 27 April 2007

I guess it is all going to come down to who is in the room, right? The hospital where I gave birth would not permit video cameras in the room because of “liability issues” (yeah, made me feel real confident!!), I cannot imagine that doctors performing abortions would be required to allow any kind of video — what is there in this law that provides for enforcement? Will women and doctors now have to have government minders in the operating room?

I am so disgusted with this country — what a huge pile of steaming shit it is.

90. brinn - 27 April 2007

Sorry, the above (389) was in response to Mcat’s #87….

91. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Lucid #81 – that case sounds similar to the one I just wrote about. Corporate interests trumping human life and safety. Something has to be done about it.

When he came forward with his results, not only was he ejected from any proceedings on the British government scientific committee to investigate mad cow, but there were several attempts made on his life.

Just like Samuel Lipori – in a different sense, but the same thing. Protecting corporate profits instead of people.

Oh, and btw, thanks for the info on the flat tax. I see what you mean. But on the war, torture, healtcare and other issues, Gravel is streets ahead of the front runners. Maybe he could be persuaded to rethink his tax proposals!

92. Madman in the Marketplace - 27 April 2007

SB, re: #29

This Naderite voted for Kerry in ’04, though I hated him, for the very same reason you did. Bush scares the shit out of me, and I talked myself into it. The way Kerry handled the loss ensured that I will NEVER do that again, no matter how scary the Republican is. That bunch of hacks on the stage yesterday showed me that they haven’t learned. A lineup of Kerry 2.0s, except for Gravel & Kucinich. K is just horrible on the stump, and pretty damned ineffective, and the media is going to make Gravel the cloned child of Nader and Adm. Stockton. No one is going to get a chance to hear him who isn’t willing to go looking themselves, and Americans are so lost to “winning CONTESTS” that they’ll rally around Kerry 2.0, whichever meatsuit he/she is wearing.

I’d rather the Republicans just win not just b/c I think people will only learn if they feel pain. They’re ALREADY feeling pain. People know things are broken, but the fake choice of a “left” Donk makes them question what they feel and deep-down KNOW is true. I used to help pick the music that a store I worked in put in some of the listening posts. I can’t tell you how many times I watched someone listen to something, watched them smile and start to move to it, only to watch as their friends wrinkled their noses or poked fun, leaving the cd abandoned on the rack and the joy and connection that customer had felt ignored to feel part of his/her herd. Always depressed me.

People think that there is a “debate” when all there really is is a Republican “pump” sucking away wealth, opportunity, civil liberties, human rights and basic decency, with a Donk “check valve” in the line to make sure none of that stuff is allowed to flow back. They serve to lock in what the right has been taking away for decades now. The small windows of time when the Dems helped expand the franchise of Democracy came in two brief spasms … most of the time they’ve either been the cause or the enabler of our problems.

Fuck them, I’m done.

93. marisacat - 27 April 2007

I have read several articles on the Moyers program the other night on PBS. And none that I saw commented on the quote frm the old time intel reporter at Wapo (forget his name, they hid a smart piece of his in the run up to war on p. 19, LOL) who said the media stopped (to the extent it had ever really existed) open dispute with the party in power under Reagan. They left it to the Dems, if they said nothing, it flew. And media just took dictation.

My understanding is the phrase for that is “certified” … if the Dems don’t actively push, endorse, talk up, ie, certify a line of argument or opposition to the R, then the media just does not bother.

The Dems hardly opposed the war. Which we can all remember. Some tried on the Hill but got no traction with OTHER DEMOCRATS.

Its a collusion. Walter Karp an independent political writer who I read for years in Harper’s maintained it goes a long ways back. To the 1898 war, Manila Harbor and so on. Little desire in the nation for that war, but the Dems colluded iwth the R in power.

And from whatever pressure in the nation, confluence of events, etc., the ONLY time the poor, the marginal middle class, the struggle to lift people from poverty got traction was Roosevelt or LBJ.

It’s not on the agenda.

94. Madman in the Marketplace - 27 April 2007

Brinn … I’d love to see him run a protest campaign after the Dems browbeat debate sponsorers into excluding him.

LV is a moron, Klein is a moron, and they once again demonstrate how much they’re part of the problem.

Waxman is a one-man opposition party. He’s about it for the Donks.

The story about the two woman US A’s is scary/interesting. A LOT of money in that business, and maybe enough to kill for.

95. Madman in the Marketplace - 27 April 2007

Truthout posts the Army Officer’s piece today with the WaPo piece that was linked above:

America’s generals have repeated the mistakes of Vietnam in Iraq. First, throughout the 1990s our generals failed to envision the conditions of future combat and prepare their forces accordingly. Second, America’s generals failed to estimate correctly both the means and the ways necessary to achieve the aims of policy prior to beginning the war in Iraq. Finally, America’s generals did not provide Congress and the public with an accurate assessment of the conflict in Iraq.

Despite paying lip service to “transformation” throughout the 1990s, America’s armed forces failed to change in significant ways after the end of the 1991 Persian Gulf War. In “The Sling and the Stone,” T.X. Hammes argues that the Defense Department’s transformation strategy focuses almost exclusively on high-technology conventional wars. The doctrine, organizations, equipment and training of the U.S. military confirm this observation. The armed forces fought the global war on terrorism for the first five years with a counterinsurgency doctrine last revised in the Reagan administration. Despite engaging in numerous stability operations throughout the 1990s, the armed forces did little to bolster their capabilities for civic reconstruction and security force development. Procurement priorities during the 1990s followed the Cold War model, with significant funding devoted to new fighter aircraft and artillery systems. The most commonly used tactical scenarios in both schools and training centers replicated high-intensity interstate conflict. At the dawn of the 21st century, the U.S. is fighting brutal, adaptive insurgencies in Afghanistan and Iraq, while our armed forces have spent the preceding decade having done little to prepare for such conflicts.

Having spent a decade preparing to fight the wrong war, America’s generals then miscalculated both the means and ways necessary to succeed in Iraq. The most fundamental military miscalculation in Iraq has been the failure to commit sufficient forces to provide security to Iraq’s population. U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) estimated in its 1998 war plan that 380,000 troops would be necessary for an invasion of Iraq. Using operations in Bosnia and Kosovo as a model for predicting troop requirements, one Army study estimated a need for 470,000 troops. Alone among America’s generals, Army Chief of Staff General Eric Shinseki publicly stated that “several hundred thousand soldiers” would be necessary to stabilize post-Saddam Iraq. Prior to the war, President Bush promised to give field commanders everything necessary for victory. Privately, many senior general officers both active and retired expressed serious misgivings about the insufficiency of forces for Iraq. These leaders would later express their concerns in tell-all books such as “Fiasco” and “Cobra II.” However, when the U.S. went to war in Iraq with less than half the strength required to win, these leaders did not make their objections public.

Given the lack of troop strength, not even the most brilliant general could have devised the ways necessary to stabilize post-Saddam Iraq. However, inept planning for postwar Iraq took the crisis caused by a lack of troops and quickly transformed it into a debacle. In 1997, the U.S. Central Command exercise “Desert Crossing” demonstrated that many postwar stabilization tasks would fall to the military. The other branches of the U.S. government lacked sufficient capability to do such work on the scale required in Iraq. Despite these results, CENTCOM accepted the assumption that the State Department would administer postwar Iraq. The military never explained to the president the magnitude of the challenges inherent in stabilizing postwar Iraq.

After failing to visualize the conditions of combat in Iraq, America’s generals failed to adapt to the demands of counterinsurgency. Counterinsurgency theory prescribes providing continuous security to the population. However, for most of the war American forces in Iraq have been concentrated on large forward-operating bases, isolated from the Iraqi people and focused on capturing or killing insurgents. Counterinsurgency theory requires strengthening the capability of host-nation institutions to provide security and other essential services to the population. America’s generals treated efforts to create transition teams to develop local security forces and provincial reconstruction teams to improve essential services as afterthoughts, never providing the quantity or quality of personnel necessary for success.

After going into Iraq with too few troops and no coherent plan for postwar stabilization, America’s general officer corps did not accurately portray the intensity of the insurgency to the American public. The Iraq Study Group concluded that “there is significant underreporting of the violence in Iraq.” The ISG noted that “on one day in July 2006 there were 93 attacks or significant acts of violence reported. Yet a careful review of the reports for that single day brought to light 1,100 acts of violence. Good policy is difficult to make when information is systematically collected in a way that minimizes its discrepancy with policy goals.” Population security is the most important measure of effectiveness in counterinsurgency. For more than three years, America’s generals continued to insist that the U.S. was making progress in Iraq. However, for Iraqi civilians, each year from 2003 onward was more deadly than the one preceding it. For reasons that are not yet clear, America’s general officer corps underestimated the strength of the enemy, overestimated the capabilities of Iraq’s government and security forces and failed to provide Congress with an accurate assessment of security conditions in Iraq. Moreover, America’s generals have not explained clearly the larger strategic risks of committing so large a portion of the nation’s deployable land power to a single theater of operations.

The intellectual and moral failures common to America’s general officer corps in Vietnam and Iraq constitute a crisis in American generalship. Any explanation that fixes culpability on individuals is insufficient. No one leader, civilian or military, caused failure in Vietnam or Iraq. Different military and civilian leaders in the two conflicts produced similar results. In both conflicts, the general officer corps designed to advise policymakers, prepare forces and conduct operations failed to perform its intended functions. To understand how the U.S. could face defeat at the hands of a weaker insurgent enemy for the second time in a generation, we must look at the structural influences that produce our general officer corps.

This fits with the complete incompetence and corruption of most of our public institutions. We are the Romans, lost and corrupt while bragging of our importance. We’ll keep doing it, right through the fall.

96. Madman in the Marketplace - 27 April 2007

Oh NO, not a PENIS … blood is fine, but a COCK?!?!

Another week, another lesson about image manipulation in the press.

At least two major publications – The New York Post and People – digitally obscured a portion of a photo from the Virginia Tech shootings.

In the photo, emergency personnel are seen carrying injured student Kevin Sterne out of the Norris Hall classroom building, his clothes soaked with blood. Standards being what they are, the concern about the photograph was not the shocking amount of blood, but whether the student’s penis was visible.

The photo is one of several taken at the scene of the April 16 shooting by Roanoke Times photographer Alan Kim and transmitted hours later worldwide by the Associated Press. It appeared the next day in dozens of newspapers, in many cases on the front page.

Almost immediately, newspaper readers began to debate the image. A message board devoted to the Detroit Free Press sparked a debate the next morning over whether the picture actually showed genitalia. The Hartford Courant was bombarded with complaints, many of which reader representative Karen Hunter posted online.

“You are showing his penis right on the front page,” one Courant reader complained to Hunter. “I think that’s disgusting…. I think you should have blocked it out or something.”

The Courant is convinced that it’s actually a tourniquet.

97. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Mitm, can’t disagree with anything you said. Gravel will be smeared, mocked etc. but I don’t know if it will work this time. The country is in a different mood now. A lot has happened and there’s a lot of anger at the realization of how many lies were told to get us into a war we cannot get out of. If Dems think they can wait until after the 2008 election to get serious about ending this war, as the body count rises each day, I wouldn’t count on that.

Gravel is a straight shooter and at this point, that is a refreshing change from the carefully scripted responses of the front runners. Plus, we’re all wiser now. Looking back, although I was never fooled by the Bush administration, I was very naive about everything else.

Marisacat, was it Walter Pincus? Not sure, but I do remember one Wapo reporter who did report on real news but you had to search for him. The lies were always front-paged.


Another trial has begun in Florida. There is no end to the corruption of this administration. This is the trial of the three mafia hitmen who are accused of killing Gus Boulis, the original owner of Suncruz, the gambling casinos bought by Abramoff and his partner Kidan. The three accused mafia guys were closely connected to Kidan. He claims they were paid by him to do some catering.

I rejected offer to murder Gus Boulis, witness claims

At the time of the murder, Boulis was fighting for control of the company with Adam Kidan, a Long Island businessman who had known Moscatiello for years.

In the court documents, Moscatiello told the potential witness Kidan wanted Boulis dead.

Kidan and lobbyist Jack Abramoff lied to lenders to obtain a $60 million bank loan to buy Boulis’ SunCruz Casinos fleet in 2000.

Abramoff was sentenced to almost six years in prison for the fraudulent purchase of SunCruz.

Kidan has never been charged with a crime in connection with Boulis’ death. He is expected to testify for prosecutors in the case.

The media never covered this horrifying crime and the connection to Abramoff, the gambling casinos, Bob Ney and Tom Delay. And airc, the FBI is still investigating reports from eye-witnesses that Mohamad Atta was seen aboard one of these boats before 9/11. So far, no news on that investigation.

We still don’t know why Abramoff and Kidan had such an interest in buying Suncruz – but they, Ralph Reed and a lot of other Republicans were very, very interested in the gambling business. Abramoff is supposedly ‘singing like a bird’ from his prison cell.

98. Miss Devore - 27 April 2007

speaking of medical fraud–I just finished a very new book called “Coronary”- which traced the rise and fall of a very successful cardiac center in Redding, CA–owned by Tenet Healthcare. Ultimately, about 800 people had unnecessary procedures performed–mostly bypass surgery, many who expereinced horrid complications afterward-and the surgeon and cardiologist becoming enormously wealthy–but the town was quite proud of its premiere cardiac center and it took awhile–and some driven patients, their families and even a few in the govt. & FBI to put the doctors out of business, and Tenet out of ownership. Unfortunately, it was settled–lotsa money, but without criminal prosecution of the doctors or Tenet.

99. New Fake Name - 27 April 2007

CABG [pronounced “cabbage”] “coronary artery bypass graft” surgury is still THE major money-maker procedures at most cardiac centers and hospitals in the US.

It is the cardiac surgeons’ bread and butter.

100. marisacat - 27 April 2007


I saw those pictures.. both versions, first plain later with a smudge/blur over his nether nexus LOL or whatever it was….

I never saw anything and frankly was too consumed with the real stuff happening to even figure out it might be his genitals.

101. Miss Devore - 27 April 2007

“wake me up after labor day?” (from rawstory):

“”The White House will not attempt to assess until September whether any of the major objectives of the troop increase in Iraq are being achieved, and now accepts that it will take far longer to achieve the results than President Bush envisioned when he announced the strategy in September,” an article in Saturday’s New York Times will report.”

102. Madman in the Marketplace - 27 April 2007

My latest, a rant on Tenet’s and Durbin’s crocodile tears.

103. marisacat - 27 April 2007

dragging it out. Both political parties. they know EXACTLY what they are doing.

Mass murder.

104. Madman in the Marketplace - 27 April 2007

Feingold on CNN this morning, sets John Roberts straight on his misrepresentation of the Iraq funding bill.

105. Madman in the Marketplace - 27 April 2007

Arthur Silber. It’s too good and builds its point slowly … too good in whole to exerpt a small part. He sums up our current state of peril very well.

106. marisacat - 27 April 2007

thanks for the Silber… I’m glad to know he is back.. 😉

107. marisacat - 27 April 2007

here is one pertinent part to extract… and vry true:

Perhaps it is the case that the man with his head resting on the block isn’t very intelligent. It is possible he doesn’t understand that the rope holds the blade back, and that when the rope breaks, the blade will descend and cut through his flesh.

At this moment in history, it is indisputably the case that Americans generally, and the political class and most of those who write about politics (including almost all bloggers), are not very intelligent. They appear to understand almost nothing about political principles, or how they operate. Gathering dangers hold no reality for such people. They will understand the guillotine’s purpose only when the blade first touches their necks, and the blood finally gushes out. Yes, they will certainly comprehend the danger then, when all possibilities for action have been destroyed.

108. lucidculture - 27 April 2007

K is just horrible on the stump, and pretty damned ineffective

I would have to disagree with you there MitM. He may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but in the runnup to the Iowa caucuses in 2004 he really inspired me. When he keeps to just speaking he’s really good, it when he starts singing the national anthem that I gag…

Speaking as another Naderite who voted for Kerry in 2004 – it was part browbeating on Dkos, but despite that I probably wouldn’t have voted for him if he hadn’t been anti-death penalty and & hadn’t had the record on BCCI & Latin American during his early days in the Senate. Remember he did take the Reagan administration head on on the Nicaragua issue. Once a good man, now the shell of one.

109. Madman in the Marketplace - 27 April 2007

The BCCI stuff is how I talked myself into it. Some stupid hope that that guy was still in there somewhere.

Stupid of me.

Everytime I hear or see Kucinich speak on the tube, or on NPR, I’m torn between nodding off or screaming GET TO THE POINT. I saw him once, on CSPAN talking about universal health care, when he impressed me.

110. marisacat - 27 April 2007

DC madame bags a scalp:

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:


For further details, go to ABC report Link

ABC Politics page

From The Blotter:

Brian Ross and Justin Rood Report:

Deputy Secretary of State Randall L. Tobias submitted his resignation Friday, one day after confirming to ABC News that he had been a customer of a Washington, D.C. escort service whose owner has been charged by federal prosecutors with running a prostitution operation. Tobias, 65, Director of U.S. Foreign Assistance and administrator of the US Agency for International Development (USAID), had previously served as the Ambassador for the President’s Emergency Fund for AIDS Relief.

A State Department press release late Friday afternoon said only he was leaving for “personal reasons.” On Thursday, Tobias told ABC News he had several times called the “Pamela Martin and Associates” escort service “to have gals come over to the condo to give me a massage.” Tobias, who is married, said there had been “no sex,” and that recently he had been using another service “with Central Americans” to provide massages. [snip]

LOL Don’t miss this tid bit.. alll the waay at the bottom:

As the Bush administration’s so-called “AIDS czar,” Tobias was criticized for emphasizing faithfulness and abstinence over condom use to prevent the spread of AIDS.

111. jam.fuse - 27 April 2007

Sounds like ol’ Randall is into something freaky…

not a bad looking dude though

112. Madman in the Marketplace - 27 April 2007


113. Madman in the Marketplace - 27 April 2007

I have to say, Kucinich is doing pretty good on Maher.

114. marisacat - 27 April 2007

New Thread Just a thread

115. Sabrina Ballerina - 27 April 2007

Oh, that is a riot. They are falling like flies. A top DOJ official quit today also. He said it was voluntary and for ‘personal reasons’. I wonder is his name on the list also? No wonder the WH put out that fake ‘Al Queda Leader Captured’ story today, despite the fact that he was captured a year ago! Lol!

On Thursday, Tobias told ABC News he had several times called the “Pamela Martin and Associates” escort service “to have gals come over to the condo to give me a massage.” Tobias, who is married, said there had been “no sex,” and that recently he had been using another service “with Central Americans” to provide massages.

‘Faithfulness and abstinence’! Rotfl!

So she found a way to name her ‘clients’ after all. Very clever, they are ALL witnesses, all 10,000 of them!

Ed Rollins said that Hookergate was the most serious scandal of all and would bring down dozens of top Govt. officials! Looks like it will be a fun summer. It was supposed to happen last summer, but Gonzales and his band of criminals were preventing all these investigations from going forward.

Otoh, despite how much fun this is, prostitution should be legal, imo. Thanks to hypocrites like this guy, it isn’t. But since it is not, why protect the ‘johns’ as they were trying to do?

I will have to see 20/20 next week. She is claiming she ran a ‘sexual fantasy’ business and that there was not supposed to be any sex involved. If the ‘girls’ engaged in sex, it’s not her fault, she told 20/20.. I’ll have to check the Smoking Gun again to see if that’s what the evidence was. Seems to me there was sex involved airc.

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