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Have a nice wallow…;) beats being a sell out! Any day of the week! 24 May 2007

Posted by marisacat in 2004 Election, 2006 Mid Terms, 2008 Election, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.


Off Ya Face Henry the Nose goes for a little stroll with his eyeballs – he has a funny scripted show communicated via radio microphone. The show includes a sneezing routine complete with hanky, bogeys and audience participation. This was a huge success at the Easter Show 2003 and Penrith Australia Day Regatta 2003.


Editor and Publisher has a piece up on ways in which McClatchy – formerly Knight-Ridder – has been shut out for their critical coverage of the Iraq War… something the pork chops – those would be the electeds on the Hill – don’t want to have happen to them.  No Sireee!

“It is because our coverage of Iraq policy has been quite critical,” Walcott told E&P. He added, “I think the idea of public officials barring coverage by people they’ve decided they don’t like is at best unprofessional, at worst undemocratic and petty.”

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman called such assertions “absurd,” adding, “There is no basis of fact for that allegation. It is not true. There are always more people who would like to travel with the secretary than seats available.”

Jonathan Landay, a former Pentagon correspondent and one of the co-authors of McClatchy’s pre-war coverage, said he last traveled on the plane with then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in 2004 to Istanbul, Turkey, for a NATO economic summit. Since then, he says, none of McClatchy’s people have flown. “It is unusual because we get aboard about two out of three trips [Secretary of State Condoleezza] Rice makes,” Landay said. “They have a different policy at the Pentagon. We are definitely being discriminated against.”

Drew Brown, who covered the Pentagon on several occasions between 2002 and 2007 before leaving McClatchy for Stars and Stripes, claimed he was never allowed to travel with Rumsfeld or current Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, who took over several months ago. “I asked a couple of times, and they gave me a non-committal answer,” Brown said. “The Department of Defense took the outlets they were able to influence, the wire [services] and the big newspapers. I don’t think they really care about anyone outside the Washington Beltway.”

Nancy Youssef, a former McClatchy Baghdad bureau chief who took over the Pentagon beat April 9, said Gates has been on four trips since she arrived and she has been denied access to all of them. “They just sort of brushed it off,” she said. “I bring it up every time, and every time it doesn’t happen.”

Too right, all about access.  8)

140 in the House and a handful… less than the fingers on both hands, in the Senate.

Yes!  Barney to the Senate!  By WH acclamation!  Why not.  He has a pulse. He’ll do.


UPDATE,  2:07 AM

Arthur SIlber packs a wallop…  and scores a bulls eye:

[S]o to Kos, Joan Walsh (who believes that Michael Tomasky’s analysis — this analysis — is “smart”), and everyone else who mouths the same empty platitudes, the identical fundamentally false and thoroughly conventional phrases that spring from a perspective drenched in “American exceptionalism,” which views the United States as the highest possible point of human development and Americans as uniquely good and virtuous in the entire span of history, and which reduces all other peoples to fifth-rate bit players in an increasingly desperate global drama, I have this to say:


That was very rude. Extraordinarily rude. Yes, indeed it was.

On some occasions, there is just no other accurate way to address certain people.




1. liberalcatnip - 24 May 2007
2. Mental Asteroid - 25 May 2007

Bad Disney

Help Me I’m lost! I’m Mental Asteroids(c) an Astor of an ass intermarried with the Hemorroids of blogging fame.

Nobody buys my shit anymore…BooHooHoo.
But I LIKE eating incremental little blue treat logs of shit.
Shnerdly Sheepishly
I came in here looking for louisiannagirl to do the Mudflap Feminists Dance.

And fuck that fucking BHHM for perverting my stellar name like he did with BooMan’s for this one-off post.

[ Ed. note: .Shnerdly Sheepishly could perhaps be another character developed from the Horsefuckers Bazaar ]

3. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 May 2007

Infuriating, Catnip – Bush boasted today about the upcoming violence we can expect. He thumbed his nose at the American people who have no one to represent them. He threatened an attack if he didn’t get his way. I wonder what threats members of Congress received? He is blatant, like a king. They made him king when the voted for the Patriot Act, and finalized it with the MCA> They are all laughing at us. We are nothing more than a giant wallet for them.

There is a full-on revolt at dk, and just about everywhere else. Bonddad has a recommended diary up telling Politicians to ‘go away’ with over 600 comments last I looked. I skimmed them and didn’t see any that disagreed with him. He was a loyal member there for a long time. I thought the diary was probably snark, an attempt to cool everyone off, but it is not. I think this time, maybe, they have completely blown it!

Many are saying they will change their registration to Independent. And others trying to see what can be done about starting a new party.

I think we should use Dean’s 50 state plan coordinated by blogs to elect Independents and get rid of everyone (except a very, very few) in DC. Clearly only the American people can stop this madness. If we don’t, if they get away with this, it will get much, much worse.

4. BooHooHooMan - 25 May 2007



And Heather, Christopher Hitchens is funnier and a better writer than me, too, but that doesn’t make him any less of a hypocritical bloviator …

i want a cookie for that one.

5. marisacat - 25 May 2007

Sirota has this up at his site… this too, in re Louise Slaughter, Rules chair.

Considering she is one of the ones sent out to smooth the choppy water… 8)

6. marisacat - 25 May 2007

oh but bondad and thereislifeinthespoon and bowers all wanna be politicos. Real big grown up ones. Like BlogFather! They formed some half assed consulting group lst year…

Sorry I think much of the first second and third tier bullshit over there is just so much.. bullshit.

7. Kevin Lynch - 25 May 2007

a toast to the end of democracy!

now we’ll have to invent the fucker all over again
disgust rules the people’s hearts, the disgusting rule the land


8. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 May 2007

Well, I never much of his writings, but he definitely sounds genuine angry in that diary, and if he isn’t, the commenters are. Maybe he’s more annoyed at the harm that’s been which will hurt his chances of rising in a party that has now totally destroyed itself, I can’t say, but reading the comments, with very few dissenting, it does seem that finally, even on dk, people are getting it. This is in response to someone who dared try to rationalize the betrayal in Bonddad’s diary.

show me proof otherwise (25+ / 0-)

and take your condescending attitude against people who on occasion say the word Fuck, and sell it elsewhere. This was the single most important issue in decades for the dems, it was the chance to forever rid themselves of the spineless label they have been pinned with, and they blew it. Worse yet, they come here and try to sell it as something other than what it is. Fuck them, they think we are stupid and I don’t fucking appreciate being talked down to as if I’m too dumb to understand the subtle nuances of their oh so difficult job.

The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same.” Carlos Castaneda

by FireCrow on Thu May 24, 2007 at 08:29:40 PM PDT

And if they thought getting the mimimum wage bill through was going to help them, or the talking point that the Dems were going to make to make Republicans look bad, this commenter got troll-rated for even trying:

The minimum wage was increased (2+ / 1-)

Let the Republicans have their feet held to the fire time and time again.

It is not feasible to just end the war by not funding it in one step.

This is a process. We need a gradual redeployment.

We got a minimum wage increase.

The Republicans won in the short-term, but they know they are toast in the long-run.

by DKHOLLA on Thu May 24, 2007 at 08:26:08 PM PDT


* [new] wow yippee (3+ / 0-)

Holy shit! That almost makes it like a retroactive cost of living adjustment, and in two years that $7.15 will be worth less than the original $5.15 in real dollars. Gimme a break.

The House yesterday overwhelmingly approved the first increase in the federal minimum wage in nearly a decade, boosting the wages of the lowest-paid American workers from $5.15 to $7.25 an hour over the next two years.

The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same.” Carlos Castaneda

by FireCrow on Thu May 24, 2007 at 08:35:34 PM PDT


* [new] The Oil Lobby got the minimum wage through (1+ / 0-)

Even Wal-Mart had to give in. They need every business in America to pay more wages so low-income Americans can pay the daily 10 cent increases in a gallon of Gas D’s had nothing to do with it. You know they didn’t or the wages would have gone down to $4.00 an hour.

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by Dburn on Thu May 24, 2007 at 08:47:37 PM PDT

The lambs are rabid tonight …. and still no sign of the thread thugs.

I did notice that Kos used MB’s ploy of accusing people of surrendering! Haven’t checked the response to that – but I doubt it was any more appreciated than when MB tried it, here and there!

9. marisacat - 25 May 2007


I went over to read the bondad diary… maybe. I do think he is mad tonight. And maybe mad for quite a while.

I think the lure of ’08 is going be great tho… and they will promise people, we gained 31 (or whatever it ws) seats in 06 and 6 in the senate… we can double that.

And they will sell the next Patrick Murphys and Jason Altmires and Giffords and Gillibrands and so on as “progressive”.

I think timing is one reason the Democrats rushed this out, so Bush can sign it, I guess tomorrow, they can go home this weekend… and lbeat about the min wage (something he spit out of his mouth and they willing picked up the spit ball, I htink it was just that pathetic)

If the rank and file swallow this one, the engaged in clubs and groups and online with access to search functions, if they let this go by, then there will never be any hope.

This is a very pacified nation. They hate lots of things but they don’t do anything about anyhting.

yes I saw Kos mimic’d MB.

Well they all email and bitch and moan to each other like crazy…

LOL tired bitches they are.

10. bayprairie - 25 May 2007

Silber posted this at midday thursday.

Our Disgusting, Sickening, Impenetrable National Narcissism

Kos :::silber citing kos post, kos “speaking”:::

So if you look at the losers of the situation, there are three — Democrats, who just reinforced the frame that they are weak and afraid to stand for what they believe in, and the troops who are stuck, away from their families, in that meat-grinder in the desert.

And then there’s the American people, who have made it clear time and time again that they want this thing over, yet are denied representation by this Congress and White House.

And the reason is Congressional Dems and their leadership (notwithstanding the rebels fighting them on this), who still don’t realize that the way to show “strength” to voters is to, you know, act strong.


:::silber commenting now:::

You can find many similar passages in the writings of various liberals and progressives following the Congressional Democrats’ decision to support the ongoing, massive war crimes committed by the United States.

Notice anything missing? Oh, it’s nothing much. Nothing very important. Only a few small details.

Over 650,000 dead Iraqis, the overwhelming majority of whom never threatened or harmed the U.S., or even wished to. The number is probably much closer to one million now.



11. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 May 2007

Excellently said by Silber – that’s it exactly, the calculating, how to minimize the damage – TO POLITICIANS! He’s exactly right. Not a mention of minimizing the damage to IRaqis or the troops. . It is genocide, and they just funded what Bush promised today, total slaughter until they get their blood-dripping hands on Iraq’s oil.

More troops are on their way as kos et al try to figure out how to save this miserable party. Six more troops died today, and over one hundred Iraqis.

What else Silber may not have noticed, is the old habit of blaming the voters for the crimes of those they worked hard to elect because they thought that maybe, maybe they had a conscience. How dare they! And that is the reaction they are getting. But it should have happened a long time ago.

I really do believe that because Kos et al do not care about the dead and dying, they underestimate just how much the majority of those who are on those blogs DO care. I think they are in shock over the reaction, and imo, do not understand it.

Let them try to rally people, I can’t wait to see them try. This is how it used to be online, before the emergence of the BBB. Time to push them aside, long past time they have cause much harm, imo.

I feel like crying when I think of the passionate people who cared so much about what Silber is talking about and were banned from that blog. It is shameful. MB apparently didn’t want t to tackle that issue.

12. marisacat - 25 May 2007


just as I was posting it in the main text… 😉

Good timing..

13. marisacat - 25 May 2007

North Korea has fired several short-range missiles towards the Sea of Japan, Japan’s Kyodo news agency reports.

For more details: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

14. supervixen - 25 May 2007

Well, you know why bonddad and his consulting friends are angry. It’s anger based on fear. I’m sure Kos and his kronies feel the same way, but they’re busy working on damage control. They’re seeing their political-punditry careers – such as they are – flitting away into the ether. The Bosendorfers are fading away like a beautiful dream. The villagers are finally realizing that Kos et al. really know jackshit about politics. And if the Kingz of the Netroots can’t act as internet “whips” anymore, can’t deliver the spin and the “buzz” and the votes and the MONEY (ah yes, the money – as many here have observed, the BBBs were a big fat ATM for the Dems) then the game is over.

They were never “Gatecrashers” – they were Carpetbaggers. Opportunists with no principles.

15. missdevore - 25 May 2007

MUD PAC: Move, useless Democrats.

Better to wallow in mud than marshmallow fluff.

16. Tuston - 25 May 2007

The U.S. Border Patrol is targeting people leaving the military in an effort to meet the president’s goal of adding 6,000 new agents by the end of 2008.
The agency has raised the age limit for new agents by three years to age 40, to attract men and women who have completed careers in the armed services, said Border Patrol Tucson Sector chief Robert W. Gilbert.
Trained and physically fit soldiers make sense to fill the jobs but critics question the logic behind bringing soldiers trained for war to a border with a friendly neighbor. And the agency’s union says raising the age limit could prove detrimental in the long-term.
“From this moment forward, there’ll never ever be any justification for the Border Patrol to say, ‘We’re not militarizing the border,’ ” said the Rev. Robin Hoover, the founder of Humane Borders, which places water tanks throughout the desert. “We will now be militarizing our frontier and there is no getting around that. And it will have consequences for civil rights.”


The rapid and massive build up of BP agents is but one giant step toward “TOTAL LOCKDOWN”…

17. supervixen - 25 May 2007

MB, from the “agnostic prayer” thread:

ooooo. oooo. A weigh-in from Supervixen, another one of those “doing something” people who thinks talk means action.

LOL, as if you have any clue about what kind of action I’m engaged in.

Not a word about the fact that Devilstower and I initiated and then, together with others, collaborated with Pretty Bird Woman House

Oh please! Enough with the smokescreen. The fact remains, though you want to evade it: you didn’t Front Page any of the abortion diaries. Keep pro-choice off the Front Page as much as possible. I’m sure that’s what Kos told you and the other admins.

One (not the only) reason you’re seeing some excellent abortion Diaries on the Recommended List is because I have been recruiting people to write or to cross-post them.

I don’t believe you.

And Heather, Christopher Hitchens is funnier and a better writer than me, too, but that doesn’t make him any less of a hypocritical bloviator

I don’t think that came out quite the way you intended.

obviously territory with which you are well familiar, having managed in the two-plus years you were at Daily Kos to write only a single pro-choice Diary despite your alleged commitment to feminism.

That’s because I seldom wrote diaries. I was primarily a commenter, not a diarist. Early on, I realized that the “action” at DKos was in the discussions, not in the diaries. And you will not find anyone whose comments were more staunchly pro-choice. I participated forcefully in every single discussion about abortion that I saw. If I had nothing further to add to the discussion in terms of comments, I supported other pro-choicers with recommends. ALWAYS. Ask moiv.

I’m sure my outspokenness on this issue did not endear me to Kos and the Koslings.

That you would dare to attack me on this point indicates either that you weren’t paying attention, or you are deliberately twisting the truth in a Rovian fashion: attack the enemy where it’s strongest.

Furthermore: you snipe at my “alleged” commitment to feminism. Let me remind you that I was the one who started the feminist series on DKos. I did so out of frustration and rage that there was no space at DKos for feminism. None of the Front Pagers – including you – gave a rat’s ass about feminism. None of them attended, or even MENTIONED, the feminist forum at Yearly Kos. (such as it was – apparently it was run by Kos’s wife – what a joke!)

As was evident during the Pie Wars, and has become increasingly obvious since then: feminism has no part in the worldview of Kos and his minions except as an annoying distraction that is to be minimized, preferably eliminated, in any discussion of politics. The only acceptable “feminists” are the ones who are “Little Sisters” and can be controlled and manipulated. They are not independent thinkers, but mouthpieces.

And this is on a blog that purports to be progressive?

Excuse me??

No. MB, I reject you, I reject everything you stand for, including Daily Kos and its twisted vision of “progressivism”. Long ago, I believed you were one of the “good guys”, but you are most certainly not. You are an opportunist, a manipulator, a fake, a fraud and a liar. You have zero credibility with me.

Oh, and one more thing: you have no standing to complain about the people on this site being “insulting”. On DKos, you happily consort with the most foul, mindless bullies ever to infest the internet. These thugs use personal insult as one of their main weapons in bludgeoning the population into conformity. Their favorite tactic is to taunt “undesirable” people with personal insults until the victims fight back and are then trollrated into oblivion and eventually banned. You sit back and allow this to happen. I have never once seen you step up and confront any of these thugs. Maybe you think you’re just safely keeping out of the fray, but you don’t understand: you’re taking part in it through your tacit approval. You’re part of the DKos Establishment and as such you bear full responsibility for the wrongs that it has perpetrated.

In short: We are onto you. Fuck off.

18. missdevore - 25 May 2007

interesting-some diarist at dk is now chiding that democrats attacking democrats will make karl rove happy. must.always.act.with.reference.to.rove. be afraid of big bad wolves. boo! us back to the Democratic party. provide cover for people we elected. this is unity.

19. supervixen - 25 May 2007

From earlier discussion: NYCee and Lucid, thanks for your impressions of 9/11. I find it’s important to hear people’s stories. I still wonder about the lack of sound in the memories. I’m trying to analyze it (is it the influence of the TV coverage?) but perhaps it’s beyond analysis.

* * *

On a more festive note, since people will be having parties this holiday weekend: Lucid mentioned Margaritas. Recently I discovered a
new (to me) recipe for Margaritas
and it met with great acclaim. I made minor adaptations, using top-shelf liquor and leaving out the water, instead blending the mixture longer so the ice dissolves into the drink. Here’s my version:


Cuervo Gold: 1 cup (8 ounces)
Cointreau: a quarter cup
Limeade frozen concentrate: half can (6 ounces)
Juice of one fresh lemon
Ice: Two cups large cubes

Mixing the Ingredients

1. Put the ice cubes in the blender.

2. Pour in the tequila and Cointreau.

3. Strain the fresh lemon juice into the blender.

4. Pour in the limeade concentrate.

5. Blend using the pulse button until ice is crushed and texture is granita-smooth.

Pour into two large Margarita glasses, with salted rims if desired. There may be a little left over.

We probably won’t be making these for this weekend’s bash – we’re doing our Greek/Turkish/Middle Eastern barbecue and will be awash in the sea-dark wine and the ouzo/arak. All Vipes are welcome!

20. Tuston - 25 May 2007

Just saw Boehner weep over the funding vote. It was so fucking pathetic. Quick, somebody send him a smallpox laden blanket he can weep those big crocidile tears into…

21. Tuston - 25 May 2007

SV: In my neck of the thornscrub we use “blanco” Tequila for mixed drinks. The colored stuff is “supposed” to be for drinking straight. Lemmons? Well only in a pinch, otherwise we utilize mexican limes (which can be bought locally 13 for a dollar). A little sugar is also warranted, IMO. Also, you might try Grand Marinier utilized in place of Cointreau (which itself is undoubtedly a superior choice to the traditional triple sec).

Down here we get “bacanora”, which is moonshine tequila and produced throughout Sonora. Tequila is technically only produced in Jalisco and from the blue agave plant. However, that’s just the Mexican monied class protecting its perogatives. Bacanora utilizes the wild agave (Agave sylvestris) that is carmelized over mesquite fires. This imparts a wonderful smokey flavor. Really good batches of Bacanora (with hazzlenuts, cinnamon, and cannabis thrown in) is buried for up to three years and is superior to even Anejo varieties of “Tequila”

22. ms_xeno - 25 May 2007

I’m afraid much of my Saturday will be spent at Popecare’s Urgent Care Clinic if this stoopid respiratory shit doesn’t vanish magically in the next 24 hrs. Not super-sick but hypersensitive to air changes right now. Everything sets off fits of coughing: A little dust, a little paint smell from the factory, even steam from a tea mug. Nose also still uncooperative most of the time. It’s driving me crazy. I’ll take along the laptop so I don’t die of boredom.

There may still be a chance to salvage the rest of the weekend and raise a cold drink or two in the direction of SV and the rest of you fallen souls. We shall see.

I’ve invented the Media Blades cocktail: Mud and Everclear over ice with a float of Goldschlager. Garnish with plastic orange slice. Set on fire before drinking. In place of “L’Chaim” or “Skoal,” the correct toast is “MY DICK AND I ARE BIGGER FEMINISTS THAN *YOU’LL* EVER BE !!!”


23. ms_xeno - 25 May 2007

Maia is over on Alas collecting the usual weak-assed evasive shit from the good li’l Yankees again. Marcotte should show up any minute. Give me strength, somebody…

24. Miss Devore - 25 May 2007

ms_xeno-you have my vote for bartender.

though I’ll probably work with Sabrina’s margarita recipe tonight, with as many Tuston adjustments I can make

25. missdevore - 25 May 2007

oh I love these features:

“These are terms people used to find your blog.
Search Views
george w. bush letter to armenians 2007 1
testicle 1”

26. wozzle - 25 May 2007

Perhaps a little Bernie Taupin for Dems today?

Holy Moses I have been deceived
Now the wind has changed direction and I’ll have to leave
Won’t you please excuse my frankness but it’s not my cup of tea
Holy Moses I have been deceived

27. colleen - 25 May 2007

as if you have any clue about what kind of action I’m engaged in.

In all fairness he covered that earlier when he expressed a certain amount of frustration about our lack of courage because we don’t share our biographies with him and the other folks at townhouse.
Nevermind that he and his fascist friends have done their best to destroy our reputations, manipulate, isolate and control our speech sometimes for years.
Share personal information with Dana Houle and his ilk? How fucking stupid does he think we are? Tim Lange does not care what sorts of activism we’re engaged in individually or collectively unless said activism could get us arrested.

28. supervixen - 25 May 2007

#21, Tuston: thanks for the tips! Actually, the limeade is very sweet – I may experiment with real lime juice and add sugar to taste, in search of a more puckery tartness.

That special bacanora sounds interesting. Where do you get it?

A friend of mine is a climate-change scientist and travels the world. Once he was doing some work in Mongolia, studying the grasslands, and was out on the plains with a few other scientists and their Mongolian guides. They sat down for a ceremonial meal which consisted of hacked-up sheep boiled in a big pot. It was greasy and tasteless. Things were looking pretty bleak until one of the guides opened up a briefcase containing several bottles of vodka flavored with some kind of special herbs. Soon everyone was tripping and had forgotten about the lousy stew. My friend saw many visions, including Genghis Khan and his horde riding across the plains. To this day he wonders what was in that vodka.

29. supervixen - 25 May 2007

colleen: Oh that’s right, we’re cowards because we “hide our biographies”. Well, I’ve already posted my professional websites, which all include plenty of info.

Here’s my cell phone: 603-986-2301

The little fucks can call me if they like. Bring it on!

Personally I’m looking forward to meeting Dana Houle at some NH Democratic gathering and telling him off to his face.

30. brinn - 25 May 2007

Accidentally posted this in the last thread…..

I think I need to put on PartyBall and start drinking.

31. Revisionist - 25 May 2007

SV …

I will let you know my Marqarita secret, . if you are doing frozen. Add a little banana to it. It gives it body and it will stay “frozen” longer.

32. bayprairie - 25 May 2007

from Ghosts Along the Brazos

i’d rather polish on a mud wallow than polish off a jizz swallow.

Sam “I am not for sale” Rayburn – Speaker of the United States House of Representatives

33. cad - 25 May 2007

LOL (0 / 0)
This is a diary of a man who sees his income stream severely threatened by the duplicity of the shitbags Democrats who folded on Iraq.

Sorry Kos.

Your party is no more than GOP Lite.

Hope you paid off that big Berkeley mortgage already.

by ShowMeProgressive on Thu May 24, 2007 at 03:49:40 PM PDT

34. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

This is interesting…and it’s on the FP, written by DarkSyde:

* I can put in time and money on campaigns, write posts, defend people I don’t even know, stand in line at a polling station, all without ever seeing the politician[s], and then find out I was conned. Maybe if I’m lucky I’ll get nice form letter thanking me (And lying to me) — and asking for more money.

* Or, for a lot less time, money, and effort I can sit in any of several local strip joints, enjoy a steak, and have a gorgeous, naked woman tell me with more apparent sincerity than any politician has ever mastered that I’m the most exciting, charming, engaging man she’s ever met.

Which lying whore would you choose?

So…strippers are “whores”? Gotta love that “feminist-leaning” front page.

re: what MB wrote:

One (not the only) reason you’re seeing some excellent abortion Diaries on the Recommended List is because I have been recruiting people to write or to cross-post them.

Surely he’s not saying he recruited moiv? Ha. He wishes.

35. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

The poll question that should be up at dkos but isn’t: how many of you have ditched the Democratic party since the last election?

I think they’re too scared to find out.

36. marisacat - 25 May 2007

well I just woke… what a great thread… the various margarita recipies make me wish I could still drink, othen than teaspoons of champagne.

off to check spam…


oh that silly ”bio” stuff they throw out. I’ve mentioned lots of specifics about my life. What do they want…? I have said “there is nothing linear about my life”.

that and other things I have said will have to be enough. 😉

37. outofwater - 25 May 2007

Bonddad assumed he would be moved to the fp. The snub must have begun his awakening about the place. He knows is commentary and research are head and shoulders above some of the ones selected, whether you agree with him or not. He brings in quite a bit of business for Kos, so his disillusionment may be costly.

38. cad - 25 May 2007

i’m assuming darksyde just turned 21 because there’s no greater vision than his comparing the capitulating dems to getting a lap dance and a steak dinner. not to mention another endless nauseating “thanks kos for your wisdom! i was about to kill myself before you chimed in and told me to stick with a winning team!”

all kos can see is visions of unfilled seats at yearlykos..

39. marisacat - 25 May 2007

I noticed the diary from MB patted a lot down as well.

It is a messy, but well honed plan. Just what the Democratic thug and whips and organisers do in RL.

the Dems did this, imo, because they support the war, they are too scared to stand up for anything (pathetic Murtha, who is just an old MIC slag and others) despite the bluster they produce….

and Kennedy, Kerry, Clinton and Obama have done jack shit for anybody. And what Kerry did many many years ago is under years of congealed fat. By now he is garrulous and disconnected. Being kept really does affect people, and that is the core of his life.

Way way back then, in 71, Trudeau did a comic of Kerry walking into the hearings carrying a huge mirror. And there was an element of that, always.

I think partly it was calculated (140 and a measly handful) as they have ages to primaries (and where is ther to go, as they always say) ages to the convention (come on home we are all Democrats, they always say) and a long time to election (who ya gonna vote for ? nader? Justice Yoo?, as they always say)

and they did it to shove the anti war base.

They want to be rid of all of that.

I think things are on track for the Dems in a sick disgusting way.

And they happily, in desperation for a domestic agenda, picked up Bush’s slobbery spit balls of the 20 billion he spat back at them by signing off on their fatty pork.

Might as well laugh.

40. Miss Devore - 25 May 2007

more to laugh:

“Armando’s art was curse words. (0+ / 0-)

Which he coupled with a lack of spelling skill when enraged.

Delaware Dem was always calm, but he did tell people what to do themselves….

In order to find his equal an Irishman is forced to talk to God.

by Lucius Vorenus on Fri May 25, 2007 at 09:39:46 AM PDT”

41. cad - 25 May 2007

and it’s clear that obama and hillary voted no after waiting to see which way the wind blew…

42. keirdubois - 25 May 2007

well, I did say the place was going to hell. People have ways and ways of listening to that selectively, I guess.

43. D. Throat - 25 May 2007

This just shouts out for a


send your capitulating congress-critter DSCC and DCCC a duly filled out and signed “blank check” … that is 0.00$

44. marisacat - 25 May 2007

LOL and send those bullshit bags that montanamn (think that was his name) had in his diary. that ws a good diary as it called out both kos and sirota for being salesmen. Sleazemen. Sirota has his uses but he was out of control thrilled last year iwth his gigs.

I was disgusted…

BTW, this is a very good thread at Mydd to the version Slaughter put up.

I notice no bullshit boyo not LS elle-meme come into the thread.

The big vaunted visits and drop ins from the elected or seeking to be The Elected, over the years have been basically a bust.

The odd one here or there, but it is canned bullshit.

I remember an early diary from Massa (NY-29), who was early endorsed by both Clark (Clinton in drag) and Gene Taylor in MISS, beloved by the big Christian group… forget the name, with an 87% rating…

someone I knew online asked him his position on abortion he answered “government should stay out of it”. BULLSHIT: but the problem is, she accepted it.

The government is in abortion already, this is a NON ANSWER.

And basically it goes like that. They never answer much of anything at all.

Or like EE the other day, chit chat about the children and their schedules and can she make it to Chicago.. Not once but over and over.


45. marisacat - 25 May 2007


people have said that for years.

It went to hell with the influx of Front Pagers 2.0. Summer of 2003

46. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

Democratic Spin Won’t End the War – John Stauber.

The bottom line, however, is that MoveOn until now has always been a big “D” Democratic Party organization. It began as an online campaign to oppose the impeachment of President Clinton, and its tactical alliances with Democratic politicians have made it part of the party’s current power base, which melds together millionaire funders such as George Soros and the Democracy Alliance, liberal unions like SEIU, and the ballyhooed Netroots bloggers like Matt Stoller, Jerome Armstrong and Markos Moulitsas Zúniga of the Daily Kos. At a personal level, we presume the members of this coalition genuinely want the war to end, but their true and primary priority is winning Democratic Party control of both houses of Congress and the White House. Now that the war in Iraq hangs like a rotting albatross around the neck of the Bush administration, it has become the Democrats’ best weapon to successfully campaign against Republicans. From a “shrewdly pragmatic” point of view, therefore, they have no reason to want the war to end soon.

Send money now!

There is an organized anti-war movement in America that is not an adjunct of the Democratic Party. Up until now, it has been weak and divided and unable to organize itself into an effective national movement in its own right. In its place, therefore, MoveOn and its Netroots allies have become identified as the leadership of the anti-war movement. It is vitally important, however, that a genuinely independent anti-war movement organize itself with the ability to speak on its own behalf.

n the 1950s and the 1960s, the civil rights movement was most definitely not an adjunct of the Democratic or Republican Parties. Far from it, it was a grassroots movement that eventually forced both parties to respond to its agenda. Likewise, the movement against the Vietnam War was not aligned with either the Democratic or Republican parties, both of which claimed to have plans for peace while actually pursuing policies that expanded the war.

That’s the sort of movement we need again, if we wish to see peace in our lifetime.

Amen to that. That’s exactly what Scott Ritter wrote about last year at this time (which I commented on here) – the need to effectively organize a national/international antiwar movement that speaks against wars without any attachment to political parties or their operatives. No selling out for election victories or party messaging.

47. keirdubois - 25 May 2007

Oh, I don’t dispute that I was not the first person to reach that conclusion. I’m not expecting any extra credit for it or anything either. Sorry. I won’t pimp the hell thing anymore.

48. marisacat - 25 May 2007

catnip out of moderation and

MissDevore out of spam.

49. marisacat - 25 May 2007


I am saying that is when operatives were elevated to the FP.

Whehter one liked them or not, Soto, Billmon and Gilliard were not operatives who lived or died as whips organisers or flunkies for the party.

Ron K is a party insider, as I understand it, but he was an occasional FPer. He could be a bully but he also was absent for stretches. never like the day in day out hundreds of comments perday from the likes of:

DhinMI and DemFromCT were a different order, as were the loyalty oaths that ripped thru, directed at Dean supporters. To me that is when the party moved in hard at Dkos.

anyway, old “stuff”.

50. keirdubois - 25 May 2007

yeah, and now Billmon is awol and Gilliard is hospitalized.

I’m still not really sure why I spend all that time there. I have wallowed in many things and still do. “Old stuff” is still sort of interesting to me cause despite the silly uid I was barely around or paying attention when it all happened, and that I still don’t really understand why people behave the way they do online.

51. marisacat - 25 May 2007

And Soto has the party and union reps parked at his site.

H emakes it official, they are listed on the left side (or were lst I looked)… and they do diaries.. but still, they are there.


52. marisacat - 25 May 2007

BTW this is an Electronic Lebanon interview with Angry Arab

EI: There is clearly an American hand in this. We saw the Lebanese government request military assistance, including ammunition and equipment from the United States, as a direct response to the events in Nahr al-Bared. How do you see the United States’ role and let me broaden the question a little bit. How are the events in Lebanon linked to what is happening in Gaza and does the United States actually have a strategy for the region? What is the big picture here?

ABUKHALIL: Certainly there is a heavy-handed American role in all this. A mere week ago the American Undersecretary of State for the Near East, David Welch, was visiting Lebanon. He met in an unprecedented manner with the commander-in-chief of the Lebanese army. This never happened in the past. We do not know what was discussed but the Lebanese press — even the press loyal to the government — indicated how unprecedented it was that Welch met with the commander-in-chief.

As far as the Americans are concerned, we also have to note that first, there was an American official announcement that the Lebanese government made a request for emergency military assistance. And yet the Lebanese government promptly denied that it made such a request. And later they are denying the denial. Why are there these confused signals? What is being cooked behind the scenes?

I think the answer to that is we have to look at the map of the Middle East to see the extent to which there are events that are quite related to one another.

You look at Gaza and you find that the American funded, financed and armed militias of Muhammad Dahlan and [Palestinian Authority President] Mahmoud Abbas were tasked with fighting and killing other Palestinians. You look at Lebanon today and you find a Lebanese government financed, funded and armed by the American government and they are doing the same. Palestine and Lebanon have become more important not so much because of any attention that the US administration is willing to pay to those places, but particularly because of the failure of the American project in Iraq.

So with victory eluding Bush in Iraq there is a desperate attempt to make some progress — to use that cliché — somewhere other than Iraq. And the places favored are Palestine and Lebanon because in those places there are US-armed and financed puppet militias that the US can use against its enemies and the enemies of Israel.

53. outofwater - 25 May 2007

CAD-“all kos can see is visions of unfilled seats at yearlykos”

What’s up with that?

54. bayprairie - 25 May 2007

once upon a time in america…

President Johnson and Larry O’Brien, 2:21 PM

O’Brien: Mr. President, we got four Republicans—[Seymour] Halpern, Lindsay, Stafford, and Schweiker. And that’s all. We had 198 Democrats there. They didn’t get a single Democrat on their side.

President Johnson: Well, I think that’s a great tribute to you. I’m glad to have the vote. I’m not happy about it, but it’s good to lose one like that.

O’Brien: Well, you know, when you stop to think about it, we had 198 Democrats on that floor for the vote. Three more have been added—there are 201 Democrats up there now. Republicans have 105 Republicans in town. And, for God’s sake, with the percentage in the House [between] Democrats and Republicans, Christ, they’ve got 70 Republicans absent and we’ve got 56 Democrats absent.

President Johnson: That’s right. But let’s take the 56, and let’s let each one of them know that we really needed them, and we love them, and we’re sorry. Tell them when grandma died, we’re sorry they couldn’t come here to help us.

These folks that got snowbound this morning remind me of [Warren] Magnuson. One time, Mr. Rayburn asked me to pick a man that he could depend on on the FCC investigation, about 20 years ago, when Gene Cox was trying to ruin it. I told him Magnuson. He was young, and he was liberal, and he was courageous, and he had lots of guts.

But he got whored up here with a movie star out in Palm Springs. And they had a big vote, and it was a tie vote, and we had to get Magnuson. And he [Rayburn] told me to get him. And Maggie told me was snowbound.

Two or three years later, I came up and wanted Maggie to be head of a special committee. Mr. Rayburn said, “I never put a snowbound man on a committee twice.

O’Brien: Damn good.

President Johnson: [continuing] “A damn fellow that gets snowbound is just out of luck, and I don’t care—it may have been God Almighty’s fault that the snow fell . . .

O’Brien: I agree with you.

President Johnson: [continuing] “He should have been here anyway.”

O’Brien: I agree with you.

President Johnson: That’s what’s happened to those 56—they ought to have been here.

O’Brien: Yes, I agree with you.

President Johnson: But let’s be over there and smile and shake hands and thank everybody . . .

O’Brien: All right.

President Johnson: [continuing] And then just cut their peter off and put it in your pocket when they do us this way.

O’Brien: OK.

President Johnson: OK.

…democratic leadership led.

did harry reid whip yesterday’s senate vote? and what fucking party did he whip it for?

55. marisacat - 25 May 2007

Reid should be replaced. But it won’t happen.

The headlines at Google UK are deadly.

“Republicans disown war” “Democrats self-defeat”


I’ve believed from the get go that Reid is just the bitch for the Republicans. And all that slobber for him at Dkos. PROOF the Boyz are Dem party mobbed up.

Jim Lobe at IPS:

Public, Republicans Disown Iraq War

Jim Lobe

WASHINGTON, May 24 (IPS) – Even as Congress moved to approve President George W. Bush’s request for continued funding of the Iraq war through the end of this fiscal 2007, a major new poll released Thursday found that public disillusionment with the war has reached record highs.

The New York Times/CBS News poll, the latest in a series of recent surveys that have shown an unexpectedly sharp drop in support both for Bush and the war, came as Congress prepared to vote on a controversial compromise bill that would give Bush some 100 billion dollars more for U.S. military operations in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

The bill, the product of protracted negotiations between the White House and Congress’ Democratic leadership which had hoped to impose a deadline for the withdrawal of U.S. combat troops from Iraq by some time next year, is expected to reach Bush’s desk by this weekend, the start of a week-long holiday recess.

According to the survey, which was conducted May 18-23, more than three out of four citizens (76 percent) now believe the Iraq war is going badly — up from 66 percent just a month ago. A record 47 percent of respondents said the war was going “very badly”.

Perhaps even more important, a majority of 52 percent of self-described Republicans say the war is going at least “somewhat” badly — a whopping 16 percent increase from mid-April and a strong indication that pressure on Republican lawmakers, who have remained remarkably loyal to the White House in a series of Iraq-related votes this spring, to abandon the president is increasing.


Poor stupid leaderless war supporting Democrats.

56. Tuston - 25 May 2007


Sorry for the long time in responding; I’m just in for a quick bite to eat before I head out to do more work.

That special bacanora sounds interesting. Where do you get it?

Mi “Tio”…really, the whole bacanora scene is all about who you know and how close to the still they are.

I noticed that there is a product that is being sold commercially:


Can’t vouche for this commerical product.as I’ve never tried it. It looks like the “hacienda de san marcos” people are trying to build a “guild” like the tequila families in jalisco have…

57. cad - 25 May 2007

well now kos has his somewhat cryptic take on webb’s vote but it comes down to is defending webbtester on their vote.

i mean, bowers or stoller (all the same to me) keep saying those two are “ours” but they won’t own to what they bought.

but men, let me tell you about another loser…

58. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

Repeat after me: this is all Lieberman’s fault.

(Send money now!)

59. marisacat - 25 May 2007

They, Boyz, run to two places: the “old” days of the Dean run or his great dream of “50 states” and that they overcame their aversion and loved him for Chair (I did not support him for chair of the DNC) or that scoundrel, sell out, “hospital gurney” Lieberman.

It is such thin gruel. How long will the little thread dwellers buy it.

Here is a very sad comment…. she is right up against it, but calls on some mythical “kossack” brigade to fight back.

* You bet we can go after all of them (8+ / 0-)

Recommended by:Sparhawk, moiv, JuliaAnn, revsue, zett, pmob5977, blueoasis, lettuce kucinich

Let’s make a list of these gutless enablers and keep the community informed as their primary opponents appear. Let’s each of us pledge to contribute generously to these opponents. Let’s write diaries about how we are pledging and how the primary opponents we support are doing.

There are millions of us. $50 x a million Kossacks, or $100 x 500,000 Kossacks, or $200 x 250,000 Kossacks — any way you cut it, we can give them ALL something to fear beside George Bush.

My nephew is serving his third tour of duty despite being diagnosed with severe PTSD. He had no body armor during the first tour. We didn’t find out about it until his second tour — he didn’t want his mom to worry or to have to raise the money.

I will never forget this day of capitulation. I love Dems like Conyers, Feingold and Boxer but they are the exceptions. We need a big new crop of freshman Dems.

by Sycamore on Thu May 24, 2007 at 07:27:16 PM PDT

the Dems are worn out. Conyers.. well… I think Pelosi broke him last summer, whatever was left. Feingold, as Madman wrote me, has too much faith in consensus… and I think Boxer is diversion, like Kucinich and barbara Lee (who was dreadful at a Berkeley activist meeting just after the big vote two months ago, what bullhsit and non answers she lobbed) to keep the putative “left” thinking a better day will come.

And so on.

I think back in 2002, esp in the senate, they gamed the vote on AUMF. Pelosi and Boxer, as an example, were allowed off the boat, due to their constituency.. and becuase both are known to be strong, locked in and locked down on israel.

I just don’t see much else. Graham made a strong stand, one that still resonates today (even if one cannot agree with parts of it) Byrd never let up, but will always vote to fund the war.

The rest… close to unthinking imperialists, however they play it at home.

60. wozzle - 25 May 2007

MC, I’m not sure about that. I think that a lot of our elected oaficials are much more personally involved with DC the town, rather than the government. I lived there for five years in the mid 70s (lived before that just outside Annapolis, at the time damn near close to heaven).

Face it, if you’ve spent a large part of your life in red-clay Alabama or west where’s the next exit Kansas or dirt-bottom Arkansas, DC has certain charms which, after you’ve experienced them in the absence of your spouse, you enjoy. You don’t want to leave. And with folks offering you large sums of cash and cache just to vote right, you vote right.

61. brinn - 25 May 2007

I *love* the idea of a blank check campaign, love it love it love it. Lessee….how to get started? A check a piece to each of the “yea” votes? I’ll spend the fucking 42 cents or whatever the hell a letter costs to mail these days….times however many of them. I’m thinking snail mail will have to be the way to go though, as the electronic donatation mechanisms won’t allow for a zero contribution — ‘course there’s always the one cent…..now that I think about it, it might be fun to send them all checks for 2 cents (as in our two….) and see how many of them actually cash them — LOL!

And I think I’ll write in the memo slow something along the lines of:

Thanks for Nothing!

I’ll put together a list of snail mail addys if anyone is interested….

62. wozzle - 25 May 2007

And keir #50. Yes and yes. And yes.

And it bothers me, I must say, why some of the Kostapo follow you all around. And why you feel a need to respond to them. Yuck.

I may be seen here as a plant. I’m not. I always admired MC at DK; her soc style and obvious experience were intrinsically valuable. I didn’t know when or why she left, but I knew others had, too, others I had enjoyed reading. I figured they went on to better things.

I couldn’t imagine that troll banning applied to valued and valuable contributors.

63. marisacat - 25 May 2007

but wozzle… how is selling out to be in DC (exactly what the Republicans used to bring down Daschle, among other things, his taped voice that they played relentlessly, claiming to be a DC resident) instead of Bug Tussle Nowhere USA any different or better than believing (as they all do) in the inherent goodness of the stadium sports and Wars Forever USA! USA! and its military might?

Hillarious, OBama and Edwards, all with many choices in life (and all have displayed arrogance and militarism to an extreme degree) all mouth the same bland shit. Edwards loves to rail against congress but his Herzliya statements should nto be forgotten. Nor his blithe call to patriotism (as our rights go and no one iw working to recover them, but lets all salute), whihc I find utterly simplistic. like a coke ad.

And dear Artur Davis (DLC, AL), as an example … well that is an elitist imperialist if ever I saw one. Trained for it from the baby buggy thru the prep school system.

Not too different from Al Gore. To be frank.

Who are these Mayberrys that want to stay in DC?

They want the perks and benefits and pensions. They would take that deal anywhere.

Suuport for Israel, support for mega business is tied up to remaining a legislator. I doubt most in congress care at all. Its the system they go with it.

64. marisacat - 25 May 2007


why would you be seen as a plant? I don’t see any reason for that.

65. wozzle - 25 May 2007

It’s easy to be a rube in DC. It’s fun, and it stays fun as long as you have power. Especially if you’re flying a false flag, as many congresscritters do.

I feel like a plant. I can’t believe that you all were here and I didn’t know about it. Guilt complex. Presbyterianism.

66. keirdubois - 25 May 2007

wozzle- are you saying I’m being followed? 😉

67. wozzle - 25 May 2007

Not you, but others here. By the ususal suspects, a la MB.

I had respect for him once. No, twice 😉

68. brinn - 25 May 2007

wozzle, you are making me lol!

a play I wrote many years ago had this line in it:

I don’t carry guilt around with me, but I do stop and look at it a lot

be well!

69. D. Throat - 25 May 2007

Midday open thread
by kos
Fri May 25, 2007 at 01:25:33 PM PDT

Tomorrow is Daily Kos’ birthday. It’ll be turning five.

Five freakin’ years.

In dog years that’s 35, and in blog years, that’s 75 years.

And yes, this site has jumped the shark. But it did so four years ago, so those of you who insist on coming back are sadly and tragically un-hip.

No shit…. Kos finally admits what he has been banning people for the past 4 years… anyone who hasn’t figured that out by now is a freaking moron… the public blow job of Arnold should have been the final clue.

70. wozzle - 25 May 2007

I am well. I am f’n sick, tired and disgusted, thus I am normal, and that is well. There are more than one curmudgeon in da joint.

Who slipped the smiley into my previous comment to Keir of the Wood? Tx.

71. marisacat - 25 May 2007

oh the usual suspects made it clear long ago. I mention this from time to time as they all read here…

Nov 27 2004 at LSF – a 5 hour siege of spam in a Saturday thread I put up. Very accomplished it ws too. Animation in the thread, cartoons, my email address (whihc i published at Dkos) my name, links to animation, pics from Wizard of Oz and the Bad Seed… and reams of anti viral drug names. Lots of “dirty bitch”. It reeked of a woman hater.

It was very adept, from someone who had done a lot of that sort of thing. Possibly as a dirty tricks worker.

LOL I have been at a ground zero all thru HIV Aids, I knew the name of every anti viral drug they slammed down.

Among other things that have happened.

For some reason they give a shit what I say or what people who comment here say.

A place I posted at to the FP after I left LSF (theoria erased a post of mine and 122 comments, I left immediately)… it was becoming clear, time for me to move on. depsite the fact the site had opposed the Boyz, posted against them and had suggested a ‘Whithold the Vote’ slam… that did not come from me, btw. but suddenly there was talk of “not being mean to Hillary” and toning this or that down. then suddenly the “server move” was being paid for by an “anonymous company”…

LOL I moved on. Without a word. madman convinced me to start a blog. Give it a whirl. So in APril of 2006 I did.

72. marisacat - 25 May 2007

BJ for Arnold, running ads for JohnMcCain.com AND running Chevron ads.

Can you give a three way BJ I wonder. Msut be hard.

LOL who will run the nonexistant feminist panel in chicago.

louisianagirl can do a pole dance. That seems fitting. With campaign buttons all over her body.

73. wozzle - 25 May 2007

Theoria was having problems with a wife (or consort) for a while. I enjoyed his comedy, but it became disturbing after a time because he seemed to be taking it out on his readers.

LAGirl will undoubtedly handle the FemPanel at ykos07. There will be a cover charge and 2 drink minimum.

74. cad - 25 May 2007

and funny how the only way kos can celebrate his site is by condemning those him and his proto-libertarian bullies ran off in the interests of democracy.

people powered by chevron and arnold! blow out those candles!

75. wozzle - 25 May 2007

MiTM, tx for convincing/abetting MC on de blog.

76. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

Edwards loves to rail against congress but his Herzliya statements should nto be forgotten.

Neither should Feingold’s statement of support for Israel during the Israel/Lebanon war.

Exactly how many truly antiwar (anti-all war) Dems are there in the party besides Kucinich?

77. marisacat - 25 May 2007


I guess a contentious divorce and then a very contentious flingarola with “em dash” … the weekend of the big spam event, theoria and em dash were in A’ dam. Which none of us knew (I mean we did not know there was no one with keys to the back end around) and the third, Fast Pete was also out of the country.

em dash hooked up (in some way) with Armando who posted ot her new blog (she left LSF in a great flurry in Feb 05) “Unbossed” as Fernando.

It is my take theoria erased me at LSF to drive me away. I think a favor for pressure that both em dash and Armanod were exerting on hsi private life. Not a pretty picture. I sure would nto stand for being censored.

And he sent me a really asshole-ish email. I actually was gone before the erasure.

78. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

LAGirl will undoubtedly handle the FemPanel at ykos07.

Wearing nothing but a fab lanyard.

79. marisacat - 25 May 2007

They all crawled out for the Lebanon war.

Shakowsky who gets quite weepy and imo intolerable about war (as in anti war, but I cannot stand to listen to her) but just about slit her wrists and collected blood for Israel during those 35 days.

80. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

And in other news:

The French intelligence officer who led the 1985 bombing of the Rainbow Warrior, the Greenpeace ship protesting against nuclear tests in the Pacific, now lives in America where he heads an arms firm selling weapons to the FBI, Pentagon, and the department of homeland security, the Guardian has learned.

The presence in America of Louis-Pierre Dillais and the sensitive nature of his dealings with the US government has led to calls from Greenpeace for his deportation …

81. wozzle - 25 May 2007

MC 77: This is what I don’t get. There are people who get beyond their own families with blogs. Their own lives. I can’t get there. I could never get there. Blogs are places to share thoughts when there is time and space.

Had a good morning, a very good morning, at my kids’ HS, expounding on fossils. Their classmates loved it and their teacher appreciated the break. They didn’t care so much about the science but they liked the offer of time and space.

82. supervixen - 25 May 2007

It would almost be worth paying the $$$ for Yearly Kos and the airfare to Chi-town to see their Feminist Panel II.

Sure to be a laugh-in. Featuring several Goldie Hawns.

MB is flogging his “Look on the bright side” routine over at DK. Too funny. And no answer yet to my response today.

* * *

#34, catnip: DarkSyde is disgusting and deeply creepy.

#56 – Thanks, Tuston, for the info. If you ever get a line on some of that aged bacanora (without the illegal substances, of course) let me know – you can email me at feministsupervixens AT yahoo.

83. Revisionist - 25 May 2007

I am sure Paul is not a farvorite of you guys but he made some comments at a recent presser that could get him Wellstoned.

“He told a reporter from Kuwait, who had suggested that part of the U.S. problem in the Middle East was its “blind support” of Israel, that he had a “good point.” Paul added that “I could talk about our blind support of Saudi Arabia.”

He went on to say that members of Congress have been “intimidated by the influence of AIPAC.” He was referring to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, one of the top pro-Israel lobbying groups in the capital.”

84. supervixen - 25 May 2007

#81, wozzle: I think for some participants, human interactions are more “real” on the internet. It’s like the way people are perceived as more “real” when they’re on TV. They are validated somehow by being displayed.

It’s a variation on the narcissist/exhibitionist theme.

Perhaps you know the couple who always have to have their domestic squabbles in public – fighting in the grocery store, out in the street breaking crockery, etc. They derive some kind of energy/enjoyment/validation from being a public spectacle and dragging others into their private rows.

The best example of the online equivalent of this is MSock with Armando/Kos.

85. keirdubois - 25 May 2007

supervixen- I hadn’t thought of it that way before. Very illuminating.

86. wozzle - 25 May 2007

Eeesh. Maryscott/Markos was a match made in Bill Gatesville, sometime around 1989.

Cannot get anywhere near there. Here is much too cool for me.

Making sausage soup tonite. More fun than online. Catch yuns later.

(Yuns – Western PA version of Y’all.)

87. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 May 2007

I encouraged Mcat b/c I enjoy her insights. Her’s is one inconvenient voter’s voice that should be out there.

As for the bio thing … several of the thread bullies, and trolls who showed up at LSF, have accused me of being a “loner” or “loser” … basically that stereotypical loner in his pj’s.

Well, I’ve never denied that I was.

I make no grand claims of having founded anything. The one real activist thing I did was get involved in some “no nukes” panels back in college. I gave a presentation of battlefield tactical nukes; artillary and “suitcase” devices scattered throughout Europe at the time. I spent several days tracking down journal and magazine articles (oh, the frustration of finding something in the Readers Guide to Periodicals only to find the page ripped out once I found it in the stacks), and had a presentation w/ tons of footnotes if anybody challenged me (I was in a panel of three or four … long time, hard to remember). Anyway, that and challenging a military recruiter at some presentation on campus were the extent of my “activism”. I frankly suck at it.

So yes, I guess I’m a “loner”. I count the people worth befriending on one hand. Most people drive me nuts. I’m sure I drive most people nuts.

So what? I’m a voter. I’m a citizen. I take my responsibilities as both of those things seriously, and I try to educate myself. I do my best to vote, to write letters and emails. I’m a citizen, not a politician, and the lie told by the hacks at Little Orange Footballs is that you HAVE to be an “activist” (which is just a form of politician, and I mean that as a description, NOT a derisive term) … that it’s not enough to be a citizen, a voter.

The right knows that not everyone is an activist/politician. The system wouldn’t work if it did. For every activist/politician, there are THOUSANDS talking at kitchen tables and at bars and sporting events and yes, arguing with their relatives. For everyone marching in the 60’s, there were many, many more supporting them.

So no, I don’t have a big bio that anyone would admire. I have a college education that I used to enrich my life, NOT to train me for a career. I worked in fucking music retail for most of my life, and now I’m in the financial industry as a cube jockey. I write memos and organize a database and shuffle spreadsheets. I’m just a guy.

But in this country, that’s supposed to be enough. People who know me who don’t pay attention come to me for links and updates when some shit goes down in the world. I talk to people, I offer my ephemeral writings online … that’s it. That’s all I want to be … I couldn’t look at myself in the mirror if I was looking at that heartless fuck DH or Del Dem or any of the rest of them. Politics is a necessary sublimation of corruption, but if it’s working properly most people’s perspectives have some representation and more voices get injected into the debate. Maybe I’ll work up the nerve again to try to get paid to write, but frankly it’s hard and the rejection sucks.

I’m just a guy, a citizen. I consider myself a patriot, and it breaks my heart that we’re still living down to the example set by the Indian Wars, that we’re still thieving and torturing and slaughtering and raping and lying … that we don’t live up to what we claim to be.

I may be the loner sitting with the other loners in the corner, but being a little “outside” offers a certain perspective, and fuck MB and the others who think that only THEIR way of engagement is the proper way of engagement.

I am a voter, and I have an inconvenient voice, and I am not shutting up about it in my little ghetto on the internets. Again, though, I have to wonder, if myself and so many of the rest of us dropouts are so marginal, why do we get spammed and trolled and why do beards and hacks bother to monitor us and come around in lame attempts to bully us?

That’s my bio … it’s nothing special. In America, that’s supposed to be enough. Fuck you if it’s not.

88. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 May 2007

sadly, it’s only those two libertarians, Paul and Gravel, who seem to be willing to speak most forcefully … with the exception of Kucinich, of course.

89. Rude? Maybe, however the taxonomical precision more than compensates « UFO Breakfast Recipients - 25 May 2007

[…] Marisacat and […]

90. marisacat - 25 May 2007

Revisionist… at # 83

no I find anyone who says anything off script interesting.

sure i wish Ron Paul could see that [the] Pro-life [hard core xtian agenda] is a RW authoritarian scam, but I pick people apart, take what interests me…


wozzle… at 81

well one thing that is going on online is the crafting of online machine politics. It means money for some, access and leverage for others and for the most pathetic, acceptance by a HS or campus-like “Who’s on the Football team?” set up.

So yeah people have gotten cut-throat about it. NO question.

91. Miss Devore - 25 May 2007

Justaguyinthemarketplace! You are a very good writer,too! Would I ever have recognized you in the orange slush machine if you weren’t?

as an aside…..you people who posted the margarita recipes earlier today-shankshalot…and though I couldn’t gather all the preferred ingredients..I like what I came up with.

92. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 May 2007
93. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 May 2007

oops … meant “exporting” … but both work.

94. bayprairie - 25 May 2007

and that, folks, #87, is why we all love madman!

and fuck MB and the others who think that only THEIR way of engagement is the proper way of engagement.

agreed. in fact it’s just like the ghost of john nance “cactus jack” garner told me recently:

…the ballyhooed Netroots bloggers like Matt Stoller, Jerome Armstrong and Markos Moulitsas Zúniga of the Daily Kos are not worth a bucket of warm piss.

95. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 May 2007

Rep. Joe Sestak of Delaware County is my congressman. OK, let me rephrase that, actually. Joe Sestak is the congressman in the 7th Congressional District of Pennsylvania, where I reside.

I stopped calling him “my congressman” about two hours ago. [snip]

Joe Sestak has served his country well — with 30 years in the Navy, commanding our ships in the high seas. He was a weapons officer aboard a guided missile frigate, a job that can require decisive action. But courage doesn’t only come wearing a uniform.

The people in Delaware County sent Sestak to Washington on a mission, to end the war in Iraq, and tonight he let us down — one of 86 Democrats who didn’t just sell out the majority of their party but also sold out the overwhelming majority of all Americans, in voting to continue paying for Iraq War through September.

Here is Sestak’s tortured explanation, in an emailed statement:

I have never deviated from what I said when I began running for this office after 31 years of military service – that a date certain to redeploy from Iraq is the only viable strategy that will change the incentives for Iraqis, and Iran and Syria, to change their behavior and work for stability and an unfailed Iraqi state.

But I’ve run the Navy’s $67 billion annual warfare program, and I know that money is only so fungible….and we will run out of funding this summer for our service members in Iraq.

I also know that there is a greater good than me, this office, our caucus, and our Congress: those who still wear the cloth of our nation and that we, America, sent to Iraq to fight for us.

I cannot vote to have these service members’ safety be caught between us and someone we hope will blink – for hope is not a strategy.

I honestly don’t get it. Sestak says that our continued presence in Iraq is doing more harm than good, and that we need to have a date certain to leave. But he could have a date certain — by exercising the power over spending for all matters, including war, that is given to Congress under the Constitution.

I can’t believe people still fall for this shuck-and-jive.

96. Tuston - 25 May 2007

Madman #92:

In San Carlos I’ve noticed the same lights that are associated with the BP mobile surveillance blimps around here.

97. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 May 2007
98. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 May 2007

Many have speculated that Bush blackmailed our Democratic Representatives and Senators to get the supplemental through. Others point to cowardice, but the truth is more prosaic. The votes to pass the supplemental were bought, with his agreement to sign a package with domestic appropriations dear to our respective delegations. The end of traditional earmarks made it easier for Bush to shake down Representatives who had no other way to push pet projects. The result was set when Obey tied funding for the debacle to appropriations for Katrina and Farm relief in the initial House bill. This created a bloc willing to settle for any language on Iraq, so long as the money for their District remained in the package.

Senator Kohl, who sat on the Conference Committee, explains how the Wisconsin delegation was bought, including Senator Feingold’s decision not to wage a “Mr. Smith” style filibuster.


99. Tuston - 25 May 2007

More ominous noise from Turkey:

ANKARA, Turkey (CNN) — The war drums are getting louder in Turkey, and they can be heard next door in the Kurdish region of northern Iraq, and across the globe in Washington as well.

Many Turkish officials and citizens — enraged by Tuesday’s deadly bombing — want the Turkish military to hit back at the Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, the hard-line Kurdish separatist group thought by many in the government and on the street to have staged the blast and other militant actions.

At least six people died and more than 100 were injured in the rush hour bombing at an Ankara shopping district.

Senior Turkish officers have said that operations against the PKK would require troops to cross into the Kurdish region of northern Iraq, which many PKK militants — also long situated in southeastern Turkey — have chosen as their base.


On Thursday, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that if the military were to request a retaliation, the parliament, which is dominated by Erdogan’s AK party, would support it.

Turkey’s army chief, Gen. Yasar Buyukanit, said recently his troops are ready to attack what he calls Kurdish terrorist camps in northern Iraq. And retired Turkish Gen. Edip Baser told CNN he believes an operation could be just weeks away.

As late as two weeks ago, there were an estimated 150,000 Turkish soldiers on or near the Turkish-Iraq border, and the PKK has stepped up cross-border attacks into the Kurdish region of Turkey now that snows have melted in the border mountains.


Gonna be a long and hot summer…

100. marisacat - 25 May 2007

Senator Kohl, who sat on the Conference Committee, explains how the Wisconsin delegation was bought, including Senator Feingold’s decision not to wage a “Mr. Smith” style filibuster.

THAT’S why i say it is all of them. They needed those spitballs Bush spat at them, they needed to go home this weekend with some pork and some sort of a domestic agenda they could talk about.

I STILL think the extremely low number that voted ‘no’ in the senate IS to separate from all but the bought, paid for, fake, NO War insdiers. Like MoveOn and Win Wihout War.

The rest of the world looks at us and we just massively funded the war.

Which has been on SIX, count ’em SIX, “emergency” fundings. For 5 years. LOL One of the ways Bush always pulled Congress in, over and over.

What a joke.

101. outofwater - 25 May 2007

Children hold one hostage to the future.

It is a scary world to make the decision to procreate.

102. marisacat - 25 May 2007

98 – Tuston…

The Turkey Kurdish mess is very frightening. I have been following it on AlertNet at Reuters and thru photos at Reuters.

what a mess!

This can spread to be an enormous regional war.

And really why should anyone in Iraq south of the Kurds support them at all (Pershmerga fighters being along side US forces, in Fallujah too I read, Israelis on the ground in the North… etc). What a huge mess.

103. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 May 2007


104. ms_xeno - 25 May 2007


Oh yeah. Would everyone ready to join me in taking up a collection to buy Madman the fanciest, coolest custom-tailored loners’ pajamas ever please raise your hands ?

I don’t know what we should get for SV yet. Possibly a lifetime supply of local, farm-direct, organic tiny new potatoes, with enough good white wine and fresh butter to do them justice as well.

I’m not buying any more politicians with my billions. I’m saving my cash for the important shit.

105. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 May 2007
106. Marie - 25 May 2007

#87 – Madman

That’s a great rant! Kos and the others might be surprised at how many dkos readers are similar to you. I’m also surprised to see a recommendation from someone with a low UID that I’ve never seen post a comment or Diary. docdls had two good diaries this week (few readers) and when I checked for previous diaries, there weren’t many and he’s been there for a long time. If the numbers are to be believed, there are more readers than those registered.

Your rant really should be posted on dKos.

Senator have you no shame? What kid will die for the vote you sold?

107. ms_xeno - 25 May 2007

Unlike Madman, I don’t care that Feingold folded. As I said a couple of months ago, everyone should just get in the habit of hating them all. All day every day. It saves time and frees up energy for keeping an eye out for somebody who, oh I don’t know, might actually fucking listen to us and fucking DO SOMETHING !

The amount of time and energy people put into justifying this piece of shit system would be better spent devising a way to dismantle it.

108. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 May 2007

thanks marie and sv and others, but … well, it shouldn’t need to be said. It really shouldn’t. Bullying kills democracy, and it’s not necessary to be an integral part of the process to PARTICIPATE.

THAT is what makes the system we’re supposed to respect special, important … that you can be a serf and have a voice.

The crap MB was spewing utterly opposed to that idea.

109. Tuston - 25 May 2007

It is a scary world to make the decision to procreate

Word. It’s reason # 1 why the Princess Katterfly and I haven’t squeezed out a duplicate.

MCat 101:

I’m sure the Kurds are part of the Way to Wider War, too. But that probably isn’t news to many here. I’m doing my best to focus on work and not think about it. Ignorance is Bliss and all that claptrap. I figure we’re fucked and I’ve given up trying to get the timeline right…

110. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 May 2007

meant sabrina in that “thanks” too … I suck, what can I say?

111. Tuston - 25 May 2007

I suck, what can I say?

Sucking is way under rated. You figure every mammal better suck, a suck wickedly, if we are to live. Then there’s the whole sucking on naughty bits that completely fascinates me…

I swear MitM that not only are you a fantastic writer, but a master linkster of supreme wit and relevance.

112. missdevore - 25 May 2007

watching the detectives…:

“Don’t forget (2+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
taylormattd, MBNYC

Miss Devore, Marisacat, and hrh. They have sockpuppets here too.

In order to find his equal an Irishman is forced to talk to God.

by Lucius Vorenus on Fri May 25, 2007 at 02:47:16 PM PDT

[ Parent ]

and the rest (2+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
MBNYC, Lucius Vorenus

madman in the marketplace, catnip, lucid, colleen.

McCain luvs W

by taylormattd on Fri May 25, 2007 at 03:23:28 PM PDT”

113. bayprairie - 25 May 2007

bars ive frequented call the grand marnier margarita a “gold” but i’ve heard “top shelf” too. i’ve beend drinking them under those names since mid-80s. our golds go like this.

tequila aneño – sî and the grand marnier as mentioned.

tiny round limes that grow in lands that know no frost – sî
limes are key. use fresh whenever possible but be aware the mexican ones are tropically sweet. more northerly ones, not so much, adjust to taste with sugar.

blender – no – shaken with the ice.

salt – sî half the rim is fine, or straw, for those who don’t care for the salt.

double – hell yeah.

proportions? oh thats barrels of fun,

free style it.

114. Tuston - 25 May 2007

Damn, what does a viper have to do to get his clitlicking agent provacateur mud wallowing ass noticed?

115. marisacat - 25 May 2007

LOL I don’t have a sock puppet… anywhere. If I wanted to log on at MyDD (which I don’t, if I want to read that confused slurp I don’t need to log on, LOL) I think I was UID 44 or 45, fwiw…

But, why bother.

116. moiv - 25 May 2007


That’s a great rant! Kos and the others might be surprised at how many dkos readers are similar to you. … Your rant really should be posted on dKos.


I suck, what can I say?

Madman sucks for me!

117. moiv - 25 May 2007

Mcat, I’m so relieved to hear that. I’d be really, really hurt if you had a sockpuppet and I didn’t know.

118. marisacat - 25 May 2007

I like Margaritas over the rocks. We get good limes here… some from so of the border, depending on the market you go to …

and Ilove a ton of Kosher salt on the rim.

What can I say, the nearest Mexican restaurant still knows how I like a Margarita…. I order one for old times sake and kind of look at it… 8)

119. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 May 2007

I don’t have a sockpuppet there … I’ve been tempted, if only to rec moiv diaries, but …

well, who needs it? I”m just a loser/loner anyway.

120. Revisionist - 25 May 2007

Speaking of Lucious Vaginas….

I was just reading that biggest trend with woman is having their vag done. (plastic surgerywise that is)

121. marisacat - 25 May 2007

well I did not realise martin/booman banned me til one day I wanted to give someone a 4.

LOL… and there was no rate box and then I noticed, no reply link.


122. Marie - 25 May 2007

MitM — more loser/loners out there than you’d guess. Didn’t suggest it for your sake but for the others, the ones that can’t articulate those words and feelings. Words that might make them feel less alone and better about themselves.

Mcat — definitely Margarita on the rocks (none of that blended slush for me) and with salt, thank you very much.

123. supervixen - 25 May 2007

Mitm: it’s OK, all the best people are “loners”. My preferred term is “cussed individualist”.

I believe there are certain personality types who gravitate to the status quo, who enjoy conformity, who get crushes on the “Big Man on Campus” authority figures; and other personality types who like to do their own thing, view people as individuals, and resist being put in a box.

Probably most people posting here are of the latter category.

It doesn’t mean, as many would have it, that you don’t have any friends and you hate the world. On the contrary, people of this character can have many interesting friends and love the world. However, they do tend to make a lot of enemies because they don’t pay attention to pecking orders and aren’t afraid to jeer at the naked emperors.

#90 – Mcat – well one thing that is going on online is the crafting of online machine politics. It means money for some, access and leverage for others and for the most pathetic, acceptance by a HS or campus-like “Who’s on the Football team?” set up.

Yeah, the “virtual community”. Howard Rheingold’s bullshit. (I wonder what DKos userID he has?) The best that can be said of internet groups is that they’re similar to the old “pen pal” networks where you could get to know people in other countries via mail. But the immediacy of the email exchange (as opposed to the weeks you’d wait for a letter from Greece or Japan) deludes you into thinking that the interaction is deeper and more significant. It’s not.

There is no “community” unless you live together enough to share a common culture. Not an imaginary “talking with each other” culture, but a culture of LIVING with each other. Big difference.

#94: bay, you are HILARIOUS!!

The quote from Sestak: But I’ve run the Navy’s $67 billion annual warfare program, and I know that money is only so fungible….and we will run out of funding this summer for our service members in Iraq.

Well then, I guess they’ll have to come home. There’s a reason for that. BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO PAY FOR IT ANYMORE.

That shouldn’t be too hard to understand.

#100 oow: yeah I know exactly what you mean. Kids = tomorrow’s cannon fodder.

* * *

On the drinks theme: does anyone have a pina colada recipe to share? I experimented tonight, inspired by my Margarita triumph, but it was disappointing: my efforts were either too pineappley or too watery. Hey, I haven’t made any in 15 years and I was going from memory.

Almost forgot – was it Revisionist? said to put some banana in a Margarita. That is a clever tip I’ll have to try soon. THANK YOU!

124. supervixen - 25 May 2007

#111, Miss D: about the SOCKPUPPETS on DKOS:

Yes, we’re there, and in the nighttime we ride on our bicycles (in order to be quiet and not alert the sentries) to poison the water supply.

We are such fearsome fiends! Agents provocateurs.

125. marisacat - 25 May 2007

well Sestak is one the nutroots pushed hard. A Vice Admiral iirc.

Did not join the New Dems – nor the Blooo Dogs – but def a conservative Democrat .. of the old Scoop Jackson sort.


126. supervixen - 25 May 2007

Sorry, I tried to fix the number of Miss D’s comment and turned out I got it wrong anyway.

127. colleen - 25 May 2007

taylormattd and Jason Melrath are paranoid little whores, aren’t they? I not only do not have a sock puppet anywhere and never have, I’ve no need or desire to post on DK, BT, MyDD or anywhere else where guys like them are considered acceptable or their opinions interesting. I read those blogs for the laugh and because undisguised pathology is so interesting.

128. Revisionist - 25 May 2007

Shhhhh… its my secret ingrident. people sometimes know there is osmething else in but cant figure it out since the lime de -bananfies the flovor. it just makes it cremier and smoother. i only do frozen when i have people over. I like it semi rocks i like it over crushed ice, i hate ice cubes

I usually switch to rum in summer… and change my beer. guiness in winter, newcastle in summer.

You have to have this canned coconut crap for pinas Coco Loco or something. My mom used to have a pina problem. Without the coco loco you’ll never it it cocnutty. You could just go the easy and do a Malibu and Pinapple juice. LOL……. i just remembered my pina colada party. in 8th grade i had a pina party at our luch break during exams.. being jumior high we all lived blocks away) everyone was busted and expelled and missed exams who was there. except me. i was too busy hosting and didnt actually get to drink anything.

129. moiv - 25 May 2007

Brinn and any interested observers –

In the long-simmering Texas House — where members have been walking around for days mumbling to themselves, “If you strike at a king, you must kill him” — all hell has officially broken loose.

The long simmering House erupted. Wow. Vesuvian.
It began with Jim Dunnam asking Tom Craddick how the membership could go about unseating him. Craddick replied that he wouldn’t recognize anyone to make such a motion.

Stunned silence.

That’s not what the Parliamentarian and precedent had seemed to say. The chair has the power to “recognize” folks to make motions, such as to bring up a bill or ask a question. But some motions are more special than others. Privileged, they’re called. And a privileged motion, everybody seemed to think, has to be recognized. And vacating the chair, throwing their presiding officer out, is such a privileged motion. Or so they thought.

So here’s the interesting thing: can a speaker remain in power simply by refusing to call on anyone who wants to get rid of him?

The parliamentary inquiries went back and forth for awhile. Craddick said his refusal to recognize someone could not be appealed. It was final.

Then he recessed and retreated into his office. Everyone believes that he has some supporters who are out and about, attending the graduations of their sons and daughters, and Craddick went to call them to tell them to get back to the House. Quick. He’s supposedly even arranging planes.

He returned to the dais. There were more questions. And so he cut them off, banged the gavel and recessed again until 11 pm, presumably when more of his peeps would be in attendance.
The House went wild. Screaming. Yelling. “I object!” Craddick left anyway.

Until the House reconvenes at 11:00 PM Central, the speaker’s dais is under guard by House security.

And the House Parliamentarian, Denise Davis — not taking kindly to Craddick’s dismissal of her considered opinion (because it would have meant he had to recognize a motion for him to vacate the chair) has just resigned.

130. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

and the rest (2+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
MBNYC, Lucius Vorenus

madman in the marketplace, catnip, lucid, colleen.

McCain luvs W

by taylormattd on Fri May 25, 2007 at 03:23:28 PM PDT”

It’s an honour to be nominated, although I don’t know why I’d need a sockpuppet (or even how to make one except by crocheting it) since I’m not banned from that site.

Paranoi will destroy ya…

131. ms_xeno - 25 May 2007

I never get nominated. It’s so unfair. Won’t somebody in the rogue’s gallery pretend that I’m their sock puppet, at least ?

[drowns sorrow in black iced coffee and Parisian macaroons]

132. Coo Coo Coo... Coup? Anyone? « Marisacat - 25 May 2007

[…] raise a top notch top shelf Margarita – or your favorite poison – to our cloudy future… more blood soup no doubt, with humans as […]

133. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

I couldn’t resist. My response to taylormattd:

you rang? (0 / 0)

Here’s my sockpuppet. Fear it.

“I have lived with several Zen masters — all of them cats.” – Eckhart Tolle

by catnip on May 25, 2007 09:36:19 PM

134. marisacat - 25 May 2007

New Thread


135. marisacat - 25 May 2007

Revisionit at 128

oh that gave me a good laugh.

all of it, n ot just the little grammar school pina colada party.

136. marisacat - 25 May 2007

Just let moiv out of moderation, she is up thread a little ways wtih an update on the Texas Lege.

137. supervixen - 25 May 2007

I am ms_xeno! We are ALL ms_xeno!

moiv: hilarious story – apparently Parliamentary rules don’t apply in TX – no wonder Dubya thinks he can be The Decider.

Revisionist – thanks again for the tips. I love your school story.

One time in college, we tried to make pina coladas, but someone put the Coco Goya in the fridge along with the pineapple juice, and it came out hard as soap. It must be mostly fat (palm oil etc.). We scraped off some shavings and made – a Waxy Colada! Sub-optimal. But we got a good laugh out of it.

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