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Coo Coo Coo… Coup? Anyone? 25 May 2007

Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iran, Israel/AIPAC.

   San Anselmo protest to the (re)election 2004
San Anselmo in No California, in protest of the 2004 (re)election of W

Well, Clemons is entirely too cute here, “end run around the president”…  a helpful commenter fills in,

Would that not be a coup?

Another says,

argument in the Bush administration?? it’s like choosing  between the cannibal serial killers and the paedophile serial killers…

However, now that the sun does not set on our Empire… it seems the coup was a while ago and the news is just now being read at home…

But, still a good read.  Tho SC is entirely unconvincing that there is anything like consensus on the State and Diplo side of the Bush bed.  (ew…)

It is a very good thread, with this as the last comment:

The Problem is not so much Cheney, Bush, etc but who will come after them. All the crimes commited now will set a precedent for future presidents, who grab ever more power with an amazingly shrinking constitution.

Bush is not the devil, he is just opening the door for the next tyrant. Already now he has enough power to rule without congress, but not enough for the end-game: an unlimited term, plus a heredetary throne. Watch out for Bush III.

Sorry my spelling, english is not my language.

Posted by: nobody at May 25, 2007 09:30 PM

oh raise a top notch top shelf Margarita or your favorite poison – to our cloudy future… more blood soup no doubt, with humans as croutons. 

If only there were a god and hell for eternity.  Someone other than the dead, the dying, the suffering and the dispossesed, might pay.


UPDATE, 5:49 am

Spotted this at Counterpunch, from the 22nd

Democratic Disconnect

A Widening Chasm on Impeachment


The divide between Democratic leaders contemplating their re-election prospects in 2008 and rank-and-file Democrats is becoming a chasm–one so wide that Congressional Democrats may soon find it hard to straddle it.

The issue is impeachment.

So far, Democrats in Congress and at the top of the party hierarchy, out of touch with public sentiment and worried that impeachment could hurt them with “independents”–whom they mistakenly consider to stand somehow “in between” Democrats and Republicans–have been following House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s vow that for the 110th Congress, “impeachment is off the table.”

They’ve been doing more than that: they have been actively working to tamp down, and even to crush, impeachment campaigns in the states.

For example, in the state of Washington, an effort to get the state to pass a joint legislative resolution which would have compelled the Congress to initiate impeachment proceedings was derailed after the Democratic leadership dispatched two of the state’s leading federal elected officials, Sen. Patty Murray and Rep. Jay Inslee, to press legislative leaders to block a floor vote. Similar pressure doomed efforts that might have passed in the legislatures of New Mexico and Vermont (The Vermont Senate did pass the resolution).

Meanwhile, down at the state and local level, Democratic Party committee after Democratic Party committee is voting out resolutions calling for impeachment.

The latest Democratic Party organization to call for impeachment of both Bush and Cheney is the Massachusetts Democratic Party, which at its state convention on Saturday, May 19, voted out a strong measure calling on the state’s elected representatives in Washington to investigate Bush and Cheney for misleading the nation into war, for authorizing torture, and for warrantless wiretapping. The message concludes: “If the investigation supports the charges, vote to impeach both Bush and Cheney as provided in the Constitution.”

Massachusetts Democrats thus join California’s huge Democratic Party, which passed a similar resolution less than a month ago at its annual convention, in what was widely perceived as a slap at Pelosi, who represents a district in San Francisco.

To date, 14 state Democratic Parties have now called for impeachment. [snip]

HA!  The part of San Francisco (CA 12, whereas I live in CA 8) that Nancy does NOT represent, a swathe out in “the Avenues”, is represented by Lantos.  Our very own West Coast Lieberman, in every sense (Swett in NH, whom they really want to shoe horn into the congress, somehow, is his daughter). Lately he has been down in Miami, railing agaisnt … … wait for it, it is SO vital to our nation… railing against Chavez.

Our dear little Internationalists in congress.  With the empty coffee tables.  And no regard at all for us.

BRAVO to the states, cities and committees voting on impeachment!


NYT:  Air strikes over GAZA

  Israeli air strikes against Hamas
Left, Mahmud Hams/AFP-Getty Images; right, Adel Hana/Associated Press

Palestinians, left, ran as a missile fired by the Israeli Army came down on a Hamas post in the central Gaza strip. A Palestinian boy, right, reacted to the blast. The Israelis hit at least eight different locations.


Via IraqSlogger, on the troop reduction story in the NYT:

White House advisors are discussing the possibility of drawing down US forces by as much as 50% in 2008, David Sanger and David Cloud write in the Times.

For their big scoop, the reporters anonymously cite high-level administration officials. A revised US role in 2008 would focus less on providing security to Baghdad and other areas and more on training Iraqi forces and battling al-Qa’ida in Iraq. The debate falls along familiar lines, they report, with a Rice-Gates faction supporting the drawdown and redeployment and a hawkish faction, possibly associated with the vice president, supporting larger troop numbers.

 “Still, there is no indication that Mr. Bush is preparing to call an early end to the current troop increase, and one reason officials are talking about their long-range strategy may be to blunt pressure from members of Congress, including some Republicans, who are pushing for a more rapid troop reduction,” they write.

Looming next year is the election campaign:

“Several administration officials said they hoped that if such a reduction were under way in the midst of the presidential campaign, it would shift the debate from whether American forces should be pulled out by a specific deadline — the current argument consuming Washington — to what kind of long-term presence the United States should have in Iraq.”

Officials cautioned that no firm plans had emerged from the discussions, which have apparently not yet solicited input from US commanders in Iraq or the Iraqi leadership.

As if anyone cares what the commanders think, as if they don’t regurgitate on cue…  

Oh can’t you hear the ringing eve of election (months long) debate now…   Hillary saying:  I will go to Iraq!  I will end the war!  I can be CinC!  I can salute!

And the Republican saying:   take a look, it’s ending.

Both lying thru their bleached and scraped teeth.




1. supervixen - 25 May 2007

Good idea with the flag protest – we’re flying a Betsy Ross flag along with a rainbow Peace flag and I’ll turn the Betsy Ross upside down tomorrow.

2. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

Grab your popcorn. Reading that site is rotting my brain.

3. supervixen - 25 May 2007

Oh good goddess. Battle of the Network Dimwits.

4. marisacat - 25 May 2007

omigod. someone called Elise “the old guard”.

I might need a pitcher of Margs to calm the gasping from laughter. It’s moving to spasmodic.

How is anyone “old guard” at a site that is 5, 5, all of FIVE. years. old.

5. Marie - 25 May 2007

We can all agree that Bush and Cheney want to “deal” with Iran before they leave office. The only open question is how?

From a strictly pragmatic perspective, the Pentagon doesn’t have the resources to do anything but bomb the Iran and send in a few special ops teams. Those plans have been on the shelf for a while. Likely that some of minor actions have been ongoing for a while. Hersh and Ritter have either stated or suggested as much. There could be a few moderating influences in the Pentagon, but doubt those carry much weight.

What we’re seeing are three options:

1) The go slow negotiation one that Clemons identifies as being the Condi-Gates position. I can’t concur that anything approaching real negotiations are taking place. Or that Condi-Gates wouldn’t prefer a more muscular military approach. However, they may be the sanest of the bunch, and are counseling that absent overt aggression by Iran, a pre-emptive strike would be very problematical. Hopefully they also know that Iran is much larger than Iraq. (Doubt that any of them appreciate that bombing campaigns have never been effective.) Those limited actions could be their attempt to bait the mullahs.

2) Cheney’s insane plot. That would work. Unlike Lebanon last year, the US wouldn’t hesitate to move in behind Israeli preemptive strikes if Iran retaliated. Olmert’s still licking his wound from his last licking — so, a leadership change in Israel has to happen first. Plus doubt that Cheney carries much or enough weight with the right people in Israel.

3) The “Kissinger” model: Bush Authorizes New Covert Action Against Iran


Looks a lot like what Dr. Stranglove and Nixon did in Chile. We know the Doc consults frequently with Bush and Cheney. Doubt that they appreciate the differences between Iran and Chile. Much harder to do in Iran and it took at least two years to get it done in Chile. Maybe Cheney was enamored with this one for a while and now sees that it can’t be done, much less done in the time they have left.

It’s also possible that all the leaks are propaganda — to scare or push Iran into doing something stupid. Stupid enough that it could be turned over to the UN and our allies. The French and Germans are our friends again and would have to put some of their skin into the game.

How I wish these people were out of office and all this threatened military actions would stop. Okay, return the pot to well below boiling.

6. marisacat - 25 May 2007

catch it before they delete it…

Delete The Fucking Democratic Party, Kos

by Errin

Fri May 25, 2007 at 08:15:33 PM PDT

Hey, Kos, great job you did of stopping the Iraq war from this internet ivory tower of yours. Better stick to what your good at… putting money and votes into Democratic coffers.

So now I see you are doing your best to cover the ass of the Democratic enablers of George Bush. Yesterday was just another reminder of what cowering enablers the Democrats have been when it comes to George Bush and the Iraq war. What a great job you are doing of progressively changing the Democratic party.

Errin’s diary :: ::

7. supervixen - 25 May 2007

Well, let’s see: Elise is #47731. Buhdydharma is #70415.

That should tell people something about their relative “old guard”-ness.

8. supervixen - 25 May 2007

Oh, this is a hoot – check out the parent commentary:

Don’t compare you to HRH? (0 / 0)
-You are both women.
-Your are both Kossaks (or at least HRH was).
-You are both feminists.
-You both have done a weekly diary on that subject.
-You both are poor representatives of that subject.
-You both gave me a link to a diary you did assuming I would care.
-You both use the sexist label on those who disagree with you.
-You both “police” the words others use (balls, dear etc).
-You both demand respect although you decline to give respect.

So fine, I’m a sexist and you are HRH. Whatever.

by indy2dem on Thu May 24, 2007 at 08:26:14 PM PDT

9. Kevin Lynch - 25 May 2007

it’s even more amazing that anyone is still siting the whole “progressive” meme in regards to dKos. the place is about as conservative as it gets. what use is it to anyone with an ounce of social justice in their body?

dKos has been outed for the republicrat shit house it is
close the door and turn out the lights please


10. marisacat - 25 May 2007


* Delicious and juicy (10+ / 0-)
Recommended by:Trix, PhillyGal, Ahianne, YetiMonk, marci in ca, begone, Dreaming of Better Days, willb48, LAMaestra, rjones2818

I’m too cheap too, but sometimes you’ve just gotta. I had $50 worth of cat food cans in the cart and wasn’t about to walk out with nothing fun for myself. (If I had, you know the cashiers would make some secret “cat lady” hand sign, sheesh.)

That’s what this is for the Democrats, isn’t it? Their “Neville Chamberlain moment” before the Second World War. –Keith Olbermann, 5/23/07

by rocketito on Fri May 25, 2007 at 08:26:29 PM PDT

11. Marie - 25 May 2007

Mcat – Errin sounds like _____ – do you recall the name of that feisty one that was banned years ago? Always on the edge and blew up a lot. Yet, she did care about being banned. Had an email from her. Her tolerance level for stupidity and inanity was much lower than mine.

Mcat and liberal — is that “buddha” diary with he and elise going at it common fare for the site these days? Goodness, hundreds of comments for a crappy cut and paste Diary. I had a dust up with Bob Johnson today (a first IIRC) and neither of us resorted to calling each other names. Can’t say that I was always that civil — god, how pathetic I must have looked in some of those old battles, but at least mine were always with creeps.

12. colleen - 25 May 2007

Oh, this is a hoot – check out the parent commentary

Very funny. Apparently tirelessly answering the blogmaid calls and terminal vapidity do not result in a job or even erstaz respect. What a shame that the Miss Laura set has banned almost all the actual feminists.

13. marisacat - 25 May 2007


sorry don’t really know. I hardly read the site thru 2006… I only bothered in Feb and March of this year, when Delaware Dem then Martin at BMT and so on freaked out at me… LOL.

I DO read snippets that people send links to – or post links here. I cheerfully admit observing the asylum has a comedic factor…. 8)

But I don’t know the dynamics of the place. Or the people, unless long term commenters.

14. supervixen - 25 May 2007

Marie – Bob Johnson is a creep too. I suspect he’s mentally ill in some way and tries to mask it with his “humor”. Once I disagreed with him in one of his diaries and he went berserk – he said “Get out of my diary!” Then threatened to trollrate all my responses until I “got out of his diary”. And he did.

Control freak weirdo.

15. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

I hardly read the site thru 2006… I only bothered in Feb and March of this year, when Delaware Dem then Martin at BMT and so on freaked out at me… LOL.

Me too. I’d just pop in and scan the headlines but rarely read anything over there after the pie wars until this whole non-outing of Mr Vagina happened. That’s how I ended up here.

“old guard” – budhy got the “guard” part right.

16. supervixen - 25 May 2007

LOL, catnip, I see there’s no response from the Troll/Sockpuppet Police so far.

That’s one cute sockpuppet you have there! “Octopuppet”.

17. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

To the tune of Jukebox Hero:

So he started mockin
Aint never gonna stop
Gotta keep on mockin
Someday he’s gonna make it to the top

And be a control freak weirdo, got stars in his eyes
He’s a control freak weirdo
He took on the power, control freak weirdo, stars in his eyes
Control freak weirdo, he’ll come alive tonight

18. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

That’s one cute sockpuppet you have there! “Octopuppet”.

I am a woman of many tentacles. Fear the catnip sockpuppet. Fear it, I say!

19. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007
20. liberalcatnip - 25 May 2007

James dropped off this link to Kurt Nimmo over at Mo Betta:

“But at least people would have a clear distinction between the Bush party, and those trying to clean up the mess,” the Kos Meister continues. “But today, that trust of the voters was betrayed. Democrats proved that they won’t fight for what is right, nor will they fight to keep the promises they made the electorate.”

Au contraire, the Democrats are doing “what is right,” just not “right” for the American people, but rather for their masters, the bankers and transnational corporations that own and run the country, indeed much of the world, with the exception of Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, and a few other hold-outs to the neoliberal nightmare. Democrats and Republicans agree on this, however the Democrats are far more polished, preferring “covert action,” that is to say murder and mayhem in the dark, and “color revolutions” to the testosterone driven and country club armchair antics of the neocons, who purposely violate polite and time honored protocol stipulating a smile while a knife is stuck in the back. At the end of the day, both “parties” stand for the same thing and it is incumbent street level Democrats make distinctions, lest they go through yet another selection, er election cycle with blinders firmly attached.

“They proved that they are as weak, as unprincipled, and as ineffective as Republicans and the media have claimed they are. They reinforced myriad negative talking points, and gave voters a new reason to distrust them.”

But of course, although it is not accurate to declare congressional Democrats weak, unprincipled, and ineffective—they never intended to put an end to the carnage and misery in Iraq, it was simply a pose to get the forever chumped street level Democrats to vote them back in office, it was nothing but yet another dog and pony show and one would think even the most dullard of Democrat would be able to recognize a dog and pony show by now.

21. keirdubois - 26 May 2007

catnip has eight arms to hold you. There is no escape.

22. lucidculture - 26 May 2007

There is the beatles reference in the title… but also kajagoogoo.

I’m not in a state to say anything profound, so I’ll let another respond to my perusing of the threads I’ve missed.

I haven’t fucked much with the past, but I’ve fucked plenty with the future.
Over the skin of silk are scars from the splinters of stations and walls I’ve caressed.
A stage is like each bolt of wood, like a log of Helen, is my pleasure.
I would measure the success of a night by the way by the way by the amount of piss and seed I could exude over the columns that
nestled the P.A.
Some nights I’d surprise everybody by skipping off with a skirt of green net sewed over with flat metallic circles which dazzled and
The lights were violet and white. I had an ornamental veil, but I couldn’t bear to use it.
When my hair was cropped, I craved covering, but now my hair itself is a veil, and the scalp inside is a scalp of a crazy and sleepy
Comanche lies beneath this netting of the skin.
I wake up. I am lying peacefully I am lying peacefully and my knees are open to the sun.
I desire him, and he is absolutely ready to seize me. In heart I am a Moslem; in heart I am an American;
In heart I am Moslem, in heart I’m an American artist, and I have no guilt.
I seek pleasure. I seek the nerves under your skin.
The narrow archway; the layers; the scroll of ancient lettuce.
We worship the flaw, the belly, the belly, the mole on the belly of an exquisite whore.
He spared the child and spoiled the rod. I have not sold myself to God.

Patti Smith,1978

And to this day, that album cover – wild hair, unshaven pits, braless – is the hottest pop culture photo I’ve ever seen. And I don’t care who it offends that I say that. The album cover of Easter haunts me when I masturbate.

I go to every show in NY. She is better on any night than 99% of the acts out there. And she is even better in her 50’s than she was in her 20’s.

23. lucidculture - 26 May 2007

Well, let’s see: Elise is #47731. Buhdydharma is #70415.

That should tell people something about their relative “old guard”-ness.

Shit, I’m 31,565… Do I have any leverage?

And what is Mcat?

BTW, Buhdy is as big an ass as Elise. He just plays a better game – like our good drive by friend MB.

Strangely, I never thought it was a game.

I just wrote shit.

24. lucidculture - 26 May 2007

Just as an aside… I always fall in love with lesbians. Part of it is that I have trouble identifying with women who aren’t butch. I’m always open to anyting & I listen like a vag-type vacuum bag, but what gets me is a butch attitude.

What gets me is the – I don’t give a fuck. I am what I am, and fuck you for questioning my integrity. If you don’t like who I am, fine.

And I fear, those people of both sexes, are few and far between.

25. marisacat - 26 May 2007

1978… think that was the year I saw Patti Smith at the old Winterland out here in SF. They have torn Winterland down… some years ago now (Condos!!) but it had been buidlt in the 30s for fights, 3 ft walls of concrete. PERFECT for rock concerts and only a few blocks from my parents house.

I don’t remember the name of the concert but it was beyond belief. At one point Patti and the guitarist and the guitar all sank to the floor and kept playing and singing. Not sure how they did it, even watching it happen, but they did.

26. MIss Devore - 26 May 2007

{slithering awake in the shiny mud} I’m formerly known as user 18ksomething. No one is going to beat Mcat’s 97.

I am wondering who my sockpuppet is suppose to be. They should at least be cute and fab.

overcast morning, and a single pigoen complaining like a Finnish chorus.

the woman in the office next to me at work is a famous complainer and she runs all her complaints together in a glossolalial manner. I Iost a crown this weekend and Burger King gave me curdled milk and I don’t want to pass out

27. MIss Devore - 26 May 2007

oh, btw. patti smith turned 60 recently.

28. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 May 2007

Here’s my sockpuppet

When the stars were right, They could plunge from world to world through the sky; but when the stars were wrong, They could not live. But although They no longer lived, They would never really die.

29. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 May 2007

Some cool Patti Smith stuff.

30. AlanSmithee - 26 May 2007

17. liberalcatnip

Teh funny! Log that one into the Koswack Songbook.

31. missdevore - 26 May 2007

my saturday morning sockpuppet (thanks for the margarita recipes):
Sockpuppet link

32. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 May 2007

Two men broke into an RAF base and attempted to put bolts and screws inside the B-52s’ engines and pictures of smiling Iraqi children on the payload doors. Arrested and tried, they pleaded in front of a jury that they were acting to prevent the US air force planes from committing war crimes. Their action was reasonable, they argued, because other means of legitimate protest had failed. They were prevented from arguing that the war itself was illegal, but instead argued that they were acting to prevent potential war crimes against Iraqi civilians, and to prevent criminal damage to Iraqi property.

They were unanimously acquitted.

33. marisacat - 26 May 2007

They were unanimously acquitted.

thank god for that. Would nto be so easy here. Authority must have its way, and extract punishment should it not get its way.

34. marisacat - 26 May 2007

Ann Wright has a piece up at TruthOut:

What Congress Really Approved:

Benchmark No. 1: Privatizing Iraq’s Oil for US Companies

By Ann Wright
t r u t h o u t | Guest Contributor

Saturday 26 May 2007

On Thursday, May 24, the US Congress voted to continue the war in Iraq. The members called it “supporting the troops.” I call it stealing Iraq’s oil – the second largest reserves in the world. The “benchmark,” or goal, the Bush administration has been working on furiously since the US invaded Iraq is privatization of Iraq’s oil. Now they have Congress blackmailing the Iraqi Parliament and the Iraqi people: no privatization of Iraqi oil, no reconstruction funds.

This threat could not be clearer. If the Iraqi Parliament refuses to pass the privatization legislation, Congress will withhold US reconstruction funds that were promised to the Iraqis to rebuild what the United States has destroyed there. The privatization law, written by American oil company consultants hired by the Bush administration, would leave control with the Iraq National Oil Company for only 17 of the 80 known oil fields. The remainder (two-thirds) of known oil fields, and all yet undiscovered ones, would be up for grabs by the private oil companies of the world (but guess how many would go to United States firms – given to them by the compliant Iraqi government.)

No other nation in the Middle East has privatized its oil. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain and Iran give only limited usage contracts to international oil companies for one or two years. The $12 billion dollar “Support the Troops” legislation passed by Congress requires Iraq, in order to get reconstruction funds from the United States, to privatize its oil resources and put them up for long term (20- to 30-year) contracts. [snip]

She also mentions at the end that since the kick off of The Surge, 500 Americans have died and 15,000 Iraqis… and makes the simple extrapolation, 30 year contracts, permanent bases… we will be there forever.

Which was the plan all along.

35. marisacat - 26 May 2007

OK OK… it is Novak… but he has a scathing piece on the Democrats – Nancy and Reid primarily. Via RCP.

May 26, 2007
Challenging Nancy
By Robert Novak

WASHINGTON — Nancy Pelosi staved off the biggest intraparty challenge during her brief tenure as speaker of the House Monday, standing her ground in support of two free-trade treaties during an uproarious meeting of the House Democratic Caucus behind closed doors.

Pelosi backed deals on Peru and Panama treaties negotiated by House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel despite fierce protests by rank-and-file Democrats. The caucus was to consider Iraq, immigration and the trade treaties, but the debate over trade was so extended that it took up all the time.

A footnote: There is no agreement on key Korean and Colombian trade treaties coming up later this year.


36. Kevin Lynch - 26 May 2007

just checked, my UID is 32318. I lurked for a year before registering. what a waste of time the whole site turned out to be.

I say let then fight to the death


37. marisacat - 26 May 2007

Missy Beattie in Counterpunch:

[S]o, the worst president in the history of this former land of opportunity, a man who should be impeached for crimes against humanity, was able, again, to manipulate the worst Congress in the history of our country. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi just said that Bush’s Iraq plan is unraveling but Congress has proved that it, too, is in tatters.

The worst president in our history is a demonic war president. The worst Congress in our history is a war Congress.

After the deadline-free bill was passed, Russ Feingold said: “We are moving backwards.” He is wrong.

We are wildly falling into an abyss of destruction because we have an egomaniacal head of state who is the worst president, a fascist who has betrayed all but his corporate cronies, and who is supported by the worst Congress.

38. wozzle - 26 May 2007

It’s obvious that the insurgents intend to bloody us, surge or no surge. al Sadr made it unambiguously clear that our troops are neither welcome to stay nor safe from the Mehdi militias. We are no closer to a solution than we were three years ago.

Beattie had one thing wrong, though – the 109th will be considered the worst congress in history, but the 110th may be the most disappointing.

39. marisacat - 26 May 2007

IraqSlogger made a point they said is being left out of US reports… Moqtada appeared wearing a funeral shroud… they said, indicating he is willing to die.

As we stop up the aerial bombing of Sadr city.

40. wozzle - 26 May 2007

I just had a scary thought. What if the Dems feared that Bush would play chicken with the supplementary, that if it was not passed he would simply leave the troops in theater without resupply? Stalin did it, and this admin is certainly Stalinesque.

From what I have seen of this administration:
– their disregard for anything approaching rational strategy and expert advice;
– their complete lack of empathy with the troops and their families, and;
– their glaring historical perspective

I’d say that it may be one reason the Dems caved. “W might be batshit crazy enough to do it”.

41. marisacat - 26 May 2007

The Democrats are scrwed, no matter what. And none of them says anything of interest. Sadly.

I think that pork had a lot to do iwth it.

Who says the Democrats give a shit about the troops.

Al Gore was on Charlie Rose last night… and I fell asleep. he PUT ME TO SLEEP. It was appallingly boring.

42. marisacat - 26 May 2007

I scammed this frm Angry Arab, in the Independent:

Secret memo shows Israel knew Six Day War was illegal

Published: 26 May 2007

A senior legal official who secretly warned the government of Israel after the Six Day War of 1967 that it would be illegal to build Jewish settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories has said, for the first time, that he still believes that he was right.

The declaration by Theodor Meron, the Israeli Foreign Ministry’s legal adviser at the time and today one of the world’s leading international jurists, is a serious blow to Israel’s persistent argument that the settlements do not violate international law, particularly as Israel prepares to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the war in June 1967.

The legal opinion, a copy of which has been obtained by The Independent, was marked “Top Secret” and “Extremely Urgent” and reached the unequivocal conclusion, in the words of its author’s summary, “that civilian settlement in the administered territories contravenes the explicit provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention.”

as we all madly rush to prove the Geneva Conventions of no consequence – at all.

43. colleen - 26 May 2007

I just had a scary thought. What if the Dems feared that Bush would play chicken with the supplementary, that if it was not passed he would simply leave the troops in theater without resupply? Stalin did it, and this admin is certainly Stalinesque.


It’s painful watching you and yours trying to rationalize the Dem vote with such flimsy reasoning just as it’s painful to watch you and your friends on dk line up behind some idiot attacking Greg Palast in this thread.
Greg Palast is probably dangerous to Democrats and republicans both because he tells the truth and is an excellent investigative journalist. The dems voted for the supplimental because their ‘big tent’ is far more conservative than the people they pretend to represent and because they’re unprincipled cowards.

44. ms_xeno - 26 May 2007

>…staying home and not voting is not a protest, really; it’s a lazy, childish refusal to look at your other options. It’s not as though you’re forbidden by law from voting either D or R, and if you’re going to throw your vote away anyway, why not vote for a third party? If it’s the Electoral College you’re upset with, why not work to support laws or candidates who will abolish it?
Maia, are you really trying to figure out how the US political system works, or is this another “you imperialist Americans are nowhere as evolved as us Kiwis” rant?…

Mythago at Maia’s latest masochism exercise on Alas

Shorter Mythago: Shut up, you stupid dumb foreigner ! How dare you judge the Great And Mighty Duopolistic World Policeman !! Shut up !!

Hell, I’m an American and I think American voters are out of their fucking minds. I wonder if that means I’m an honorary foreigner. Fuck, it sure feels like that sometimes.


45. ms_xeno - 26 May 2007

Shit. Didn’t close the blockquotes correctly. Or the italics. First two paragraphs are not mine, in case that’s not clear. Want coffee. Want to breathe again, too. :p

46. ms_xeno - 26 May 2007

I’m really fucking sick and tired of abused voters constantly saying that they CAN’T LEAVE the PARTY !! It LOOOOOOOOOVES THEM !! It’s a GOOD PARTY at HEART, really !! We just need to looooooooove it more and show it the true path of LOOOOOOOVE, and then everything will be all right. It protects us from that other even bigger, nastier batterer that would fuck us up ten times as bad if only Mr. DP didn’t LOOOOOOVE us so much.

Fuck fuck fuck.

Hillary Clinton’s campaign song should be:

When He Hit Me, It Felt Just Like A Kiss. Or some other paen to the joys of loving a dominator who beats on you day in and day out, alternating the beatings with sweet talk and an occasional flower, and then dares you to leave because outside is soooooo much worse !!

47. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 May 2007
48. wozzle - 26 May 2007

Colleen #43 – I meant neither to exculpate nor to cover for the dems (not a dem, never will join a party) but to express a real fear. Suppose the scenario I posited actually occurred – yet another “constitutional crisis” to add to the list and another potential takeover of government by an administration totally corrupt, out of control and insane. We already have one brewing at DoJ.

As far as the diary goes, I believe that Palast has been spinning some meaty tales out of mighty thin evidence, and that is what the diarist stated. In too many words, I think.

49. missdevore - 26 May 2007

Ms_xeno–are you better yet?

kelp-a-malt sounds great; like chocolate-covered anchovies, sea-urchins with peaches.

50. bayprairie - 26 May 2007

does anyone have the links to this weeks “bush blank check” roll calls handy? i cant find them anywhere and i want to do some work on it later tonight.

im particularly interested in how hodes voted due to the lying bullshit feel-good “puppy propaganda” story AP is running.

a disgusting piece of 4th rate journalismo.

i even looked on the front page of Dkos going back story by story to the night before the votes. it’s kind of funny but they don’t seem to have a link visible.


51. missdevore - 26 May 2007

bayprarie–there are results on “On a wing and an agnostic prayer” here.

52. bayprairie - 26 May 2007

the only link i see to a roll call vote in “on a wing and an agnostic prayer” is to this

Senate Votes on HR 1591
3/29/07 and # of dead
read more here about the supplemental….

but i’m looking for this week’s votes. that link isn’t the bill, wrong month, and the totals are all wrong.

is there one i’m missing?

53. marisacat - 26 May 2007

bay prairie

MissDevore is right.

But check Sirota at Working assets… I htink he might link to a lot more than just the roll calls.

I linked to him, might be in wing and a prayer or the next post.

or find hm at the blogs at http://www.workingassets.com

54. marisacat - 26 May 2007

smithee links to the senate roll call, same thread

55. marisacat - 26 May 2007

I linked to the house roll call.

56. bayprairie - 26 May 2007

wordpress must individualize blogs then. in “on a wing and an agnostic prayer” i see no smithee comment at all, and in the post after that i only see a “vote green’ link. in the one previous i see no comments at all.

is smithee hiding from me?

interestingly enough atrios not only doesnt post a link to the roll call he doesnt even mention the vote!

did it even happen? haha..

anyway sorry i asked. enjoy.

57. BooHooHooMan - 26 May 2007

To The tra la la er Dem enablers:

Not to worry, go on holiday, maybe take in a Schwarzenegger or Stallone mold movie where the righteous survivor swears “to the ends of the earth” vengeance. …

Maybe Markos feels that lauding Arnold’s primate -cy or bitching about Copyright law violations will “spare us” from the influx of American inspired foreign remakes down the road.. Such “boom, you’re dead” flicks unfortunately are sure to be a hit among target audiences in the US. It’s too bad we produced the original.

You can Slap any non sequitor of a name served up to the “could give a shit/ it’s a Holiday weekend” crowd:

FRIST, it’s Belle- uh- Pelosi , Harry Reid and Our Gang in ” The Beginning of the End”., then it’s Bush, Cheney and the Pentagon in “From Here to Eternity”.

All of this is reviewed on television and online in between trying to sell us pills for a better hard- on with the kind of “achievement” and “performance” we never thought was possible. The attempt to conflate “Performance” with “Achievement” is everywhere from Foreign Policy to the engorgement of the dick The Democrats have become Cheney’s Viagra.

If your going to the movies don’t forget your essentials, that kiddy candy treat called Circus Peanuts. They are the most reprehensible orange marshmellowy turds ever foisted upon a nation and its children. Well, almost the most reprehensible. They are as gummy though less healthy and palatable as road tar, a Chevron/ Texaco distillate no doubt….

So Circus Peanuts and Body Armor it may be, having stuck our National head in the sand and in a city of SEVEN MILLION IN IRAQ.

Taking in the theater, not historically a the best of choices at “The End” of a War—-Civil or otherwise..

58. marisacat - 26 May 2007


go to http://www.house.gov then click on clerk. The votewas on Thursday.

If you look on the FP at house.gov on the right you will see a link to the senate.

I think at the senate it is under legislative and records (check at the bottom at senate.gov)

I must have the thread wrong. I know in one thread I linked to the house and smithtee linked to the senate.

I called my link Roll Call.

59. missdevore - 26 May 2007

BHHM. I’ve got a bootleg of “Hot Fuzz”, though I was advised I should see “Shaun of the Dead” first.

and yes, those peanuts; I was suspicious about them even when my judgement was poorer.

I suspect they feed them to chickens now.

60. marisacat - 26 May 2007

I had blissfuly forgotten those “peanuts”… and remembering them included what they looked like.

Putting lunch off for a bit.

61. marisacat - 26 May 2007


here is the house vote link. (cannot find it back in threads)

Hodes was a NO.

Smithee links to the senate vote in Nutsacks thread, comment 37.

62. wozzle - 26 May 2007

Circus peanuts were not meant to be eaten – they were meant to be used for crowd control. Shot from a launcher, yes. I learned this from a reliable Atlantic City (NJ) PD officer. He was later tossed off the Steel Pier for this bit of informancy. Tragic, really.

63. wozzle - 26 May 2007

Well, to be brutally honest, that is not EXACTLY the reason he was thrown from the pier. But it approximates the truth. And no, Circus Peanuts were NOT initially to be used for crowd control. They were only to be used as backup for skittles…

64. Marie - 26 May 2007

wozzle #48 agree. Not sure why Bob Johnson has such a bee up his butt that he’s making it his current mission to disabuse the twitocracy of their infatuation with Palast. What they need is education in critical reading and thinking skills. Palast is amusing not dangerous. (That’s what I had a run-in with him yesterday. He conceded or just ran out of steam for that debate. But is reinvigorated today.)

use google to find that Senate vote. I got it Thurs. night but didn’t save it. Schumer and Johnson no shows. Boxer, Kennedy, Sanders, Whitehouse, Leahy, Wyden, Feingold, Clinton, Obama, Dodd and three GOP voted No. The others voted for it.

65. marisacat - 26 May 2007

smithee in Nutsack at comment 37 has the senate vote.

66. wozzle - 26 May 2007

Schumer and Johnson – fascinating. I’m beginning to believe that Schumer’s a Giulianista. Not that being a Rudy fan will help either.

Why is there only one dem trying in the Senate? And why is he always happily losing? C’mon, Russ, give us the word.

67. marisacat - 26 May 2007

schumer’s wife is deeply tied into NYC entrenched whatever. I am sure they are in the bag to both Guiliani and Bloomberg.

She was on the Transportation agency when th ferry boat tragedy occurred. Although a Blue Ribbon Commission found that the accident was party due to her nepotism, her appointments for patronage: SHE WAS PROMOTED.

She now heads up MORE than jsut city transportation.

if you google “schumer+wife+ferry” you get it.

Free Republic has its uses. What can I say.

68. wozzle - 26 May 2007

Mc, a freeper. I’m at a loss.

69. name - 26 May 2007

for wozzle’s comment 66

because that’s his appointed role, like boxer and kennedy have appointed roles….(gore (check websters for definition) has one too)….

ever wonder how the same state elects both feinstein (who gives a fuck about the spelling) and boxer (not to mention wax face)?

70. name - 26 May 2007

thank you Marisa

71. marisacat - 26 May 2007

well Feinstein’s run in 92 (or 94, hard to remember) was such a breeze that she campaigned heavily for Boxer. hershensohn was such a nightmare, the So cal Repub and radio personality… who ran agaisnt Boxer.

But iirc Boxer in the alst run got more votes than Feinstein ever had.

Oh sure it is rigged. No question.

72. marisacat - 26 May 2007


sorry if there ws a delay… the “back stage” of WP is mess today. I am assuming they take it down later for a tune up.

73. marisacat - 26 May 2007

wozzle at 68

well if you google that, you do land at FR, among other places.

i read something this year about Schumer, forget what it was and I suddenly was curious about the wif.

Wowow… what a treasure trove of dirty city politics SHE is. And Schumer is such a hack.

74. name - 26 May 2007

no apologies necessary Marisa, it’s wonderful that you do what you do in this heartless landscape.

75. marisacat - 26 May 2007

Sheehan left the party. I assume the thread is bloody.

76. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

Sheehan would do well to leave dkos too after the way she’s been treated over there.

Hi “name”.

I noticed in that Palast trhead DH said (again) that antiwar.com isn’t a “reliable source”. Huh? They provide links to news stories and editorials from quite a range of people. What’s not “reliable” about that? I think it’s the name “antiwar” that makes him throw up a bit in his mouth.

77. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

Eight more U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq:

BAGHDAD (Reuters) – Eight more U.S. soldiers have been killed in five previously unreported attacks in different areas of Iraq over the past four days, the U.S. military said on Saturday.

May is on track to be the bloodiest month this year for U.S. forces, with 101 soldiers killed so far. April was the worst month so far this year for U.S. forces, when 104 soldiers were killed.

How’s that surge workin’ for ya, Bush?

78. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

I guess Lebanon’s government can stop denying the fact that the US is supplying weapons to them now.

79. marisacat - 26 May 2007

MYDD is setting down rules for discussing Hillarious.

A few weeks ago TAPPED spent two days (and then some) on “don’t call her Hillary” even tho her campaign uses “Hillary” on its FP.

Poor little flower.

Talk about missing the point.

Netteries being primed.

80. colleen - 26 May 2007

As far as the diary goes, I believe that Palast has been spinning some meaty tales out of mighty thin evidence, and that is what the diarist stated.

Only the most generous reader would paraphrase that diarist’s efforts in that manner. What the diarist actually says is:

I will attempt to document below the fold why I believe that Greg Palast is dangerous to Democrats, progressives and members of the DailyKos community.

and then proceeds to present flimsy evidence and logic to substantiate his hyperbole. I didn’t bother to read the thread. Did one of the many lawyers tell that diarist that vote caging is indeed illegal?

Palast is amusing not dangerous. (That’s what I had a run-in with him yesterday. He conceded or just ran out of steam for that debate. But is reinvigorated today.)

Perhaps he became bored?

81. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

Did he get paid to write that crap?

Clinton’s strategy is designed to appeal to liberal women who would otherwise reject a hawkish conservative, but are proud of seeing a poised and brilliant woman make it in a male-dominated world.

That’s insulting to liberal women. What does he think we are? Stupid? (rhetorical question)

“She ain’t hawkish, she just looks that way…”

82. marisacat - 26 May 2007

LOL we still need someone to tie our aprons in the back and zip up the cocktail dress… and manage the clasp on the pearls.

So we can be “poised”. such a dated word.

yes I so need Hillary to run and win.

Anything BUT.

83. missdevore - 26 May 2007

cripes! another text message from Hill. She wants to do vodka shots tonight. I kept arguing the merits of tequila, but she keeps reminding me of Poland.

84. missdevore - 26 May 2007

blowing paper horn till blue in face:

“Happy 5th Birthday, DailyKos!
by DavidNYC
Sat May 26, 2007 at 02:49:36 PM PDT

Five years ago this very day, an Army veteran and J.D. from Chicago and El Salvador named Markos Moulitsas Zúniga fired up a new blog. He called it DailyKos – inspired by his Army nickname – and thundered right out the gate:

Day 1

I am progressive. I am liberal. I make no apologies. Even for the first two lies.”

Oops–misplaced the quotation close!

85. marisacat - 26 May 2007

thanks for that. At some point when I was first there I did go back and read his early entries. I was pretty sure he called himself or the blog


LOL. Hardly.

86. Marie - 26 May 2007

M-cat – wish I’d done that. Only stumbled on a one when I was looking for something else. Was one of his earliest and said that a war with Iraq was never in the cards and not something to worry about.

Kos did believe he was a liberal and progressive — because he was too uninformed to recognize that he wasn’t.

colleen – he ended it by recommending my last comment; so could mean boredom or concession.

87. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 May 2007

WHEN all else fails, those pious Americans who conceived and directed the Iraq war fall back on moral self-congratulation: at least we brought liberty and democracy to an oppressed people. But that last-ditch rationalization has now become America’s sorriest self-delusion in this tragedy.

However wholeheartedly we disposed of their horrific dictator, the Iraqis were always pawns on the geopolitical chessboard rather than actual people in the administration’s reckless bet to “transform” the Middle East. From “Stuff happens!” on, nearly every aspect of Washington policy in Iraq exuded contempt for the beneficiaries of our supposed munificence. Now this animus is completely out of the closet. Without Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz to kick around anymore, the war’s dead-enders are pinning the fiasco on the Iraqis themselves. Our government abhors them almost as much as the Lou Dobbs spear carriers loathe those swarming “aliens” from Mexico. [snip]

The new White House policy, as Zbigniew Brzezinski has joked, is “blame and run.” It started to take shape just before the midterm elections last fall, when Mr. Rumsfeld wrote a memo (propitiously leaked after his defenestration) suggesting that the Iraqis might “have to pull up their socks, step up and take responsibility for their country.” By January, Mr. Bush was saying that “the Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude” and wondering aloud “whether or not there is a gratitude level that’s significant enough in Iraq.” In February, one of the war’s leading neocon cheerleaders among the Beltway punditocracy lowered the boom. “Iraq is their country,” Charles Krauthammer wrote. “We midwifed their freedom. They chose civil war.” Bill O’Reilly and others now echo this cry.

The message is clear enough: These ungrateful losers deserve everything that’s coming to them. The Iraqis hear us and are returning the compliment. Whether Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki is mocking American demands for timelines and benchmarks, or the Iraqi Parliament is setting its own timeline for American withdrawal even while flaunting its vacation schedule, Iraq’s nominal government is saying it’s fed up. The American-Iraqi shotgun marriage of convenience, midwifed by disastrous Bush foreign policy, has disintegrated into the marriage from hell.

While the world waits for the White House and Congress to negotiate the separation agreement, the damage to the innocent family members caught in the cross-fire is only getting worse. Despite Mr. Bush’s May 10 claim that “the number of sectarian murders has dropped substantially” since the surge began, The Washington Post reported on Thursday that the number of such murders is going up. For the Americans, the cost is no less dear. Casualty figures confirm that the past six months have been the deadliest yet for our troops.

88. marisacat - 26 May 2007

They are all adopting blame and run. Including the Democrats…

89. Marie - 26 May 2007

This is great:

Smart, funny and well organized

90. missdevore - 26 May 2007

What is interesting is how often they have come to use the midwifery/birthing metaphors, for the loss of hundreds of thousands of lives in violence, and their apoplexy on abortion and stem cell-research,etc. Because we know stem cells can smile, but can’t imagine burned to death Iraqi children might have that potential.

91. marisacat - 26 May 2007

it is all about the Great Mythical Birth Baby. Popping out all over. There is no death in the wars.


Gee get with the programme.

Saving snowflakes every day!

92. missdevore - 26 May 2007

Marie–that was great. Btw–has cheney spoken at brigham young yet?

93. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 May 2007
94. ms_xeno - 26 May 2007

Miss D, I am getting the good drugs tomorrow. Had to profusely swear to the Nurse Practitioner at Popecare that I would not use it to start a meth ring. :p

So much for buying mr_xeno a birthday gift for next week. I suppose I could bake him a cake, though.

Thanks for checking up on me. Oh, and thanks to Mcat for repairing my broken tags, getting me out of spam, etc.

I have got to stop reading boards outside my annointed circle. I just can’t take the idiocy and eternal slide to the Right anymore. These people just don’t get that as they justify repeatedly the leaders’ slide rightward, they too become Right-wingers. I mean, WTF ? The U.S., under BOTH parties, stomps all over the world like the proverbial 30,000 lb. gorilla, but those women overseas should just shut up about our system and stick to critiquing Buffy ?


Maybe Sheehan will run against Hillary now. Wouldn’t that be a kick ?

95. Marie - 26 May 2007

You’d Think They’d Learn!

Shit like this is always what got the Clinton’s in trouble. Arrogance and a sense of entitlement.


Everybody doesn’t do it — and more importantly nobody should do it. Doesn’t matter if others can get away with it. In fact Republicans voters think it reflects well on GOP politicians because it’s a sign that their guy is rich and well connected, exactly what they think they will be one day if they can keep liberals out of office. But they will rail against Democrats, the ones that purport to represent the little guy, who do it because it smells like hypocrisy. And such behavior does make Democratic voters queasy.

Also, when do we the people take back OUR White House. Put an end to using it as a hotel for the rich and famous. Overnight guests should be limited to immediate family members and foreign heads of state. That’s it.

96. Miss Devore - 26 May 2007

I’m pondering the best retort to the McCain aide that said Obama wouldn’t know an RPG from a bong…..

well, look what colin powell knew about aluminum tubes used in centrifuges to enrich uranium.

97. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007
98. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

Maybe Sheehan will run against Hillary now. Wouldn’t that be a kick ?

Many orange heads would explode. Orange matter mayhem would ensue. Cleanup on aisles 4, 9, 16, 22, 36, 72…

99. Miss Devore - 26 May 2007

97–catnip–bad news for me–I will have to stop sleeping with myself now!

100. marisacat - 26 May 2007

hmm I think McCain is still at the Hanoi Hilton. Refighting Vietnam forever! We’ll win one YET!

101. Marie - 26 May 2007

100 m-cat, and Kissinger is hanging out at the WH doing the same thing.

102. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

I will have to stop sleeping with myself now!

rofl… I was going to suggest a body condom but I guess that wouldn’t exactly work…hmmm. I guess as long as sharks aren’t Catholic, they can use birth control though.

103. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

I think Kissinger is a member of the undead club, personally.

104. Revisionist - 26 May 2007

if you have never seen Beyond the Valley of the Dolls you must catch it on IFC tonite….. words cant even decribe it.

105. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

What the heck is going on in Texas??

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Hours after lawmakers who tried to overtake the speaker’s podium seeking to oust him were physically restrained, House Speaker Tom Craddick charged through a rowdy floor session Saturday without ceding his coveted post.

The House parliamentarian resigned on the verge of tears earlier as Craddick beat back a rebellion from opponents seeking a vote on his leadership.

Democrats and Republicans alike complain that Craddick has ruled with an iron fist. They say his win-at-all-cost style often forces them to vote against the interests of their own districts.

Throughout the day Saturday, several Craddick opponents hovered around the chamber’s back microphone to take turns sniping at his rulings. But Speaker Pro Tem Sylvester Turner, a Houston Democrat, refused to recognize lawmakers who sought to make a motion to unseat Craddick.
Capping a week of simmering discord, Hill made a request Friday night that would allow the 150-member chamber to vote to oust Craddick. Craddick, often called the most powerful man in state government, refused to recognize Hill to make the motion, then hustled back to his office suite amid a cacophony of boos.

Democrats trying to overtake the speaker’s podium were restrained by House sergeants-at-arms as they tried to grab the microphone.

Yeesh. Let’s get ready to rumble…

106. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

#104. I caught that last year when I was channel-surfing – and wish I hadn’t. 😉

107. Marie - 26 May 2007

liberal – isn’t that great. Hope wherever she is, Molly is watching — she so loved those assholes in the TX Leg. How I wish I could imagine how she would have written about this.

108. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

Sucks to be you…:

AMHERST, Mass. (AP) — President Bush’s former chief of staff Andrew Card was loudly booed by hundreds of students and faculty members as he rose to accept an honorary degree at the University of Massachusetts on Friday.

The boos and catcalls – including those from faculty members who stood onstage with Card – drowned out Provost Charlena Seymour’s remarks as she awarded the honorary doctorate in public service. Protesters claim Card lied to the American people in the early days of the Iraq war and should not have been honored at the graduate student commencement.

Card smiled slightly while Seymour spoke and raised his hand in thanks, then sat down without speaking.
The protests were mainly contained to an area in the back of the campus arena, though many of the faculty members onstage joined the three- to four- minute outburst.

One faculty member onstage held a sign: “Card – no honor, no degree.” Another sign said, “War criminals go home.”
Before the commencement ceremony, about 100 faculty members and students sang anti-war songs, handed out leaflets and waved signs outside the arena.

Good for them!

109. missdevore - 26 May 2007

hey-tangentially related to 104–I read the other day that the prince of bahrain was giving this big party and michael jackson was given $10mil, just to show up. other celebs were attending–faye dunaway, and the article noted that they could all expect to receive fab gifts, etc. And Dionne Warwick was to be there–but she was the only one who had to perform. And for $500K.

The moment she wakes up, she just has to take whatever gig she gets.

I wish I had the energy to whip my Tv into shape tonight–I did everything in the wrong order today–read a novel really early in the morning, watched a dvd in the afternoon. Now my remaining books are highly technical, and I just can’t go there.

I saw that Safeway was selling “Blink” for $16 in paperback. I might walk over…..

110. missdevore - 26 May 2007

catnip-marie has the video at 89.

marisacat is an extremely tolerant hostess, cuz if she wasn’t I think she would tell me to learn HTML tonight.

111. Revisionist - 26 May 2007

lol catnip… its one of my all time favorite movies (and ist actually very culturally signicant but i’ll spare you the film school analysis)

RE Texas….

At least the Texas Dems actually show some balls every now and then. I mean trying to overtake the podium and when the went into hiding during redistricting. Harry Reid would have just sent a letter to someone and Joe Biden would just go on talkshows and talk about reaching a bipartisan agreement. Hillary would wait for it to be over then release a comment stating her postion. Kerry would just whine on Dkos. Lol.. Lieberman would be speaker’s office giving him oral.

112. marisacat - 26 May 2007


I have blink. Not sure it is worth 16 if there is somewhere near to rent it. But I like the movie. I probably paid something around that for it.

113. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

#110. That’s what I get for not being a diligent linkclicker! Thanks. It’s even better watching it. I gave you a h/t at my place, Marie.

114. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

#111. But but but Revisionist…it was just so bad. I’m sure there’s something to it if it’s to be studied but mon dieu… lol

115. earth to meg - 26 May 2007

Here’s some classic Lenny Bruce on Steve Allen’s show, circa 1959.


116. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

Oh, wanted to share one of my babies with you – aka Josephina, Finia Rinia and Will you please stop drooling in my ear?? Ewww.

117. marisacat - 26 May 2007

that is a great cat!

118. missdevore - 26 May 2007

damn, can’t get lenny to load.

steve allen was the first late night comic I watched and was always my favorite (rule in my house was, if you were sick, you were isolated form other kin in “family room” and allowed to watch television non-stop and drink ginger ale and eat saltines. sometimes a humidifier or vicks’ vapo-rub was employed.

There are a few isolated gimmicks on the late-nighters since, but no one was better than allen. Johnny carson was the obnoxious white male personified.

119. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

that is a great cat!

She sure thinks so. 🙂

120. earth to meg - 26 May 2007

missdevore, I had to click twice on that arrow thing in the center of the youtube screen for mine to load. Damn, it’s . He was talking about how he started taking drugs as a little kid and then does a hilarious glue-sniffing routine.

Lenny was the man. No question.

121. earth to meg - 26 May 2007

Should be “Damn, it’s funny.” Or “Damn, it’s terrific.” Or “Damn, it’s [insert adjective describing humor here].” :p

122. missdevore - 26 May 2007

I tried some variations, etm. I have actually lost my reservoir of patience since talking to SIL via phone.

have to go to bed now and read some sheafs of printed articles.

night, vipes.

123. colleen - 26 May 2007

Josephina is exquisite

124. liberalcatnip - 26 May 2007

Thanks, colleen. Not that I can take credit for her good looks though. 🙂 She’s a good cat – except when she wakes me up every morning with her gentle scratches, zombie stares and drooling (yes, in my ears). She also likes playing the “let’s step on mommy’s hair, she hates that” game if the other wake up techniques don’t work. I’ve had her since she was a baby and she’s always had a thing about my hair.

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