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A thread, again… 12 June 2007

Posted by marisacat in DC Politics, Democrats, Divertissements, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Italy.

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UPDATE, 11:51 pm

Pretty desperate, I would say:

WASHINGTON (AFP) – Anti-war Senate Democrats Tuesday plotted a new showdown with US President George W. Bush over Iraq, but admitted they had erred by making supporters think they could end the war.

“On Iraq, we’re going to hold the president’s feet to the fire,” said Senate Majority leader Harry Reid, saying debate would start in two weeks time.

Less than a month after bowing to Bush’s demands and approving a 100 billion dollar war budget, Democratic leaders pledged a new challenge to the White House on withdrawal timelines, troop readiness and curtailing the president’s authority to continue the fight.

Reid said however that Democrats, saddled with a thin majority in Congress, had raised unrealistic expectations about their ability to end the war, among supporters who powered their takeover of Congress last year.

“We set the bar too high,” he said, noting that under Senate rules, Democrats needed 60 votes in the 100 seat chamber to thwart Republican blocking tactics.

On the war, Democratic leaders have only 49 senators in their own party to play with, plus one independent who usually votes with them.

Some Democrats have also been reluctant to make anti-war statements on any bill that provides funding for troops in harm’s way, furthering winnowing the Democratic advantage.

The latest Democratic tactic appeared to be an attempt to keep pressure on Bush and Senate Republicans ahead of an expected critical moment in September, when Congress is due to receive a report on the strategy to surge extra troops into the country.   [limp snip]

Nothing to sell, is my take.  Whooooops! 

Their last hope, a Reaganite:

He said freshman Senator Jim Webb would frame an attempt to prevent Pentagon chiefs cutting downtime between deployments for US troops to Iraq — a move which has also been resisted by the administration.

Oh not to worry:  some will excuse and excuse and excuse and excuse and excuse… and I am sure there are many examples around. As they post in pack formation…

And, you know, fail in the minority, fail in a frail majority, kick them upstairs to try try try again.  It’s a plan.

All they have.

   Reid June 11 Getty Images 

US Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, pictured 11 June 2007 in Washington, DC. Anti-war Senate Democrats Tuesday plotted a new showdown with US President George W. Bush over Iraq, but admitted they had erred by making supporters think they could end the war.  [AFP/Getty Images/File/Alex Wong]



1. moiv - 12 June 2007

Well, here I am, having caught up on doings here, and having returned from once more bruising the exquisite sensibilities of jiacinto. You just have to wonder about the mental processes of a man who sees a condyloma wart as potentially titillating.

I sometimes (hell, often) wonder what the bejabbers I think I’m doing. But since the recent mood of tolerance for my kind is likely to be just as fleeting as the old one, that’s probably only a rhetorical question.

As BHHM and ms-xeno observed, they always have their reasons. But I have said that I will not be window dressing — and I won’t be.

Sad, all the talk of our aged kitties. My calico girl Ducky went just over a year ago, at the age of 19. Marisa babysat me all night. I always wonder if they are as sad to go as we are to lose them.

2. liberalcatnip - 12 June 2007

Via The Guardian:

Secret UN report condemns US for Middle East failures

The highest ranking UN official in Israel has warned that American pressure has “pummelled into submission” the UN’s role as an impartial Middle East negotiator in a damning confidential report.

The 53-page “End of Mission Report” by Alvaro de Soto, the UN’s Middle East envoy, obtained by the Guardian, presents a devastating account of failed diplomacy and condemns the sweeping boycott of the Palestinian government. It is dated May 5 this year, just before Mr de Soto stepped down.

The revelations from inside the UN come after another day of escalating violence in Gaza, when at least 26 Palestinians were killed after Hamas fighters launched a major assault. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, head of the rival Fatah group, warned he was facing an attempted coup.

Mr de Soto condemns Israel for setting unachievable preconditions for talks and the Palestinians for their violence. Western-led peace negotiations have become largely irrelevant, he says.

Mr de Soto is a Peruvian diplomat who worked for the UN for 25 years in El Salvador, Cyprus and Western Sahara. He says:

· The international boycott of the Palestinians, introduced after Hamas won elections last year, was “at best extremely short-sighted” and had “devastating consequences” for the Palestinian people

· Israel has adopted an “essentially rejectionist” stance towards the Palestinians

· The Quartet of Middle East negotiators – the US, the EU, Russia and the UN – has become a “side-show”

·The Palestinian record of stopping violence against Israel is “patchy at best, reprehensible at worst”

“side-show”, indeed.

While I agree with him (and realize this was a private, unofficial report that he probably leaked – who knows?), afaic, Israel deserves criticism for its government’s violent policies as well. What’s happening there now, fueled by US bucks that back Abbas, was most likely carefully planned. What else can you conclude when the so-called “peace” negotiations (ie. the road map) were just left to fester in the ditch? Might as well just let the Palestinians kill each other, right? This is madness.

3. Sabrina Ballerina - 12 June 2007

Oooh, that’s a cute cat .. I hope s/he has a home to go to ….

Which reminds me, the Mudcat saga continues …. in the last thread someone posted (catnip?) a Chris Bowers post on Mudcat. He still doesn’t seem to know much about him. That seems odd since Jerome Armstrong supposedly brought him to Yrly Kos. And it’s really not that difficult to do a little research, as Vags here have done.

Anyhow, Mudcat, according to this from Rawstory, has apologized, (see previous threads where this was predicted) Lol! We are virtual prophets compared to the Netroots strategists!

Edwards Campaign: ‘Go to Hell’ advisor speaks for himself!

After a top adviser to the campaign of presidential hopeful John Edwards told liberal bloggers to “go to hell,” a spokesman for the former Democratic Senator from North Carolina denied that it reflected the candidate’s sentiments.

“That’s just Mudcat being Mudcat. He speaks for himself,” said Eric Schultz from John Edwards’s 2008 presidential campaign in an e-mail to RAW STORY.

Schultz was referring to a remark made at Swampland, the Time politics blog, by Dave ‘Mudcat’ Saunders, who identifies himself as “the rural liaison for John Edwards.”

“Those Democratic bloggers, who have appointed themselves as intellectually superior and believe the only way to win an argument is to shot[sic] the loudest with personal attacks, you can go to Hell,” wrote Saunders in his debut post to the blog on Monday. “Intellectually superior? The truth is these people remind me of the guy who told so many people he had a horse that he finally went and bought a saddle. The ‘incivility’ in their tones tell me they would be much more happy following ‘pro rasslin’ than the political blogs.”


It looks like the Trippi defense ‘that’s just Mudcat being Mudcat’ is how they’ll explain him. Trippi may have talked to him. Although none of bloggers quoted have said they know of his associations with the Netroots.

Has Armstrong said anything about him yet or is he hoping no one will remember his connection to him.

4. bayprairie - 12 June 2007

im sure of one thing, moiv.

your clinic’s patients, even though most are dealing with great stress and trauma, are quite lucky in one significant regard. they will receive the best of care. you define dedication to the patient.

keep up the good work. i can’t think of anyone who does it as well as you do.

5. moiv - 12 June 2007

Bay, I took this week off just to rest, and that must have been a good decision. Because what you wrote just put tears in my eyes, and I’m not a weeper.

catnip, are you still up because you hurt and can’r sleep?

6. liberalcatnip - 12 June 2007

I should add that I haven’t read that UN diplomat’s entire report. Maybe he’s a bit more critical of the Israeli government’s policies than that article lets on.

You just have to wonder about the mental processes of a man who sees a condyloma wart as potentially titillating.

I try not to wonder too hard about things like that. He obviously has “issues”.

Oh, when I was on the bus coming home from the doctor’s a woman across from me was taking her baby to the vet’s. Poor thing wasn’t enjoying the bus ride – she looked a bit scared – but she wasn’t meowing. She sure was a pretty one – long-haired grey and white.

7. liberalcatnip - 12 June 2007

catnip, are you still up because you hurt and can’r sleep?

Yes and no. Trying to catch up on stuff. I’m a nite owl usually but I’m off to bed soon. The pain from my back is also affecting the nerve that runs along the back of my right arm (my typing arm), so I should probably be taking it easy as far as the surfing/typing goes. (But I’m really stubborn.) Thanks for asking.

8. liberalcatnip - 12 June 2007


I read this a few days ago and thought it would interest you. I don’t post anything from Ynet. They’re notoriously biased.

9. moiv - 13 June 2007

Vet time for me, too. It’s a year now since my SIL brought me Jasper, a 6 m/o black lab mix who had been living out of apartment complex dumpsters, with a cloud of flies around his head and so filthy we thought he was brown. Sweetest dog I’ve ever had, stands beside me while I do the dishes, with his head leaning against my knee and his foreleg wrapped around my calf.

Anyway, time for his yearly vaccinations again. And more heartworm tabs, of course — mosquitos here the size of Messerschmidts.

10. marisacat - 13 June 2007

well moiv it’s been and is a remarkable series.

Pity outside of the ‘fight to the last breath’ few actual Dems in TX you write about that there is no political partner.

And mostly shits online. What a shame.

11. Sabrina Ballerina - 13 June 2007

Moiv, I agree with Bayprairie. You are the best representative of women’s issues at dk. Most of what passes for women’s issues there is lightweight garbage. Same is true of the rest of the affiliated blogs. I never even click into their stuff. Saying ‘it sucks’ is considered cutting edge dialogue on the plight of women and boobs are talked about as though no one ever heard of them before. More like soft porn (which is probably intentional to get those valuable clicks), personalized, is what most of what I did see when I bothered with it at all. Keep up the good work, and get plenty of rest.

I have to go read Catnip’s blog to find out how things went for her today …. my heart goes out to her, I cannot imagine being in pain like that all the time.

Miss Devore, most of my other female friends would find all the guys here way more attractive than a bunch of mercenaries, after all they are smart, funny, talented and great conversationalists.

It’s just this one friend who has a fascination for the military – it drives me crazy because she did live with a guy for a while who was extremely abusive and we all begged her to get away from him. She always defended him saying ‘he’s Special Ops, he’s traumatized’ – I dont’ think he was S.O., but that’s what he told her. Anyway, she finally did get rid of him … she’s so independent in other ways, it just doesn’t make sense to me.

12. moiv - 13 June 2007

(But I’m really stubborn.)

Of course. An endemic VAG affliction.

13. liberalcatnip - 13 June 2007

One more: Intercontinental Cans of Whup-Ass. Your military industrial complex at work. Their motto should be: “Cuz we just can’t kill enough people fast enough.”

14. moiv - 13 June 2007

Yes, our Texas Dems can be a stubborn bunch. Oughta make ’em honorary VAGs, and then clone ’em.

15. liberalcatnip - 13 June 2007

Was it the Texas Dems who fled to the state to Oklahoma or somewhere? I have a vague recollection…

16. moiv - 13 June 2007

from catnip’s link:

That Iran strike is looking a whole lot less likely, after the digital equivalent of a back-of-the-envelope sketch from DANGER ROOM pal Allen Thomson. Let’s say you wanted to launch an ICBM at the Mullahs from California’s Vandenberg Air Force Base. You’d only have two choices, really: Send the thing over Russia — dropping debris over the U.S., and risking a nuclear holocaust in the process — or fire the missile in a low-earth orbit back over the South Pole. Then, the ICBM would only head in Russia’s direction, not fly over it. Of course, as Thomson notes, if you go “the long way around the Earth, [it] takes considerably longer to get to the target than the direct path. So if you’re interested in prompt strike-on-demand, you pay a price.” He figures it’d take 63 minutes, from California to Tehran, taking the scenic route — as opposed to 27 minutes, the short way. That’s fast. But is it faster than, say, a cruise missile launched from the Persian Gulf?

And people wonder why Putin is making rumbling noises.

Did anybody else hear the soundbyte of Bush’s literally snickering response to Putin’s statement about training Russian missiles on Europe?

“Hey, the cold war is over.”

17. marisacat - 13 June 2007

It was!! They went to Ardmore… I thought ti was GREAT!…

and at one point it was thought they were in NM and Madrid, the AG there, said, no but if I see people on the loose who support Universal Health Care and better funding for [list to follow] I will let you know…

Back when some small dribbles were showing a half a vertebrae.

LOL It was a mirage.

But the Dems did flee TX … it was a GREAT move!

18. marisacat - 13 June 2007

moiv, good thing you took a week… try to rest and relax… 😉

19. liberalcatnip - 13 June 2007

Well moiv, we went through that in Canada too – notably here in Alberta – when the so-called missile defence bullshit was being pushed because we would end up having debris dropping on us if something went wrong and, as far as I know, they haven’t gotten this missile defence thing right yet anyway, so who wants to take that chance? And trust Bush to restart the Cold War. The man is a fucking disaster just looking for as many enemies as he can find.

20. moiv - 13 June 2007

Yeah, they took off to Ardmore, OK to break the quorum when DeLay was engineering Congressional redistricting.

Big Tom and his buddies called in Homeland Security to track them.

Republicans in Washington and Austin, Texas apparently used a Homeland Security Department agency to track Texas Democratic legislators who left the state to block passage of a GOP-backed Congressional redistricting bill.

This is the same Homeland Security Department that is supposed to be making America safe from foreign terrorists. It’s the agency we were told would never be used for domestic political purposes.

But today’s edition of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports that the Air and Marine Interdiction and Coordination Center, in Riverside, California, became involved in the Republican search for 51 Democratic state representatives who went to Ardmore, Oklahoma to break a quorum of the House and block action on the redistricting bill.

Here’s what the Star-Telegram reported: “The agency received a call to locate a specific Piper turboprop aircraft. It was determined that the plane belonged to former House Speaker Pete Laney.” Laney is one of the Democrats who is fighting against the redistricting bill.

The newspaper said, “Laney’s plane proved to be a key piece of information because, (Republican House Speaker) Craddick said, it’s how he determined that the Democrats were in Ardmore. ‘We called someone, and they said they were going to track it. I have no idea how they tracked it down,’ Craddick said. ‘That’s how we found them.'”


The action by the House Democrats, dubbed the “Heroes of the House” and the “Killer D’s” (a reference to a similar quorum-busting action by Texas Senate Democrats in the late 1970s), has gained national attention. Their action has also received a surprising amount of support from Texas newspapers, which have criticized the deeply partisan actions of Texas Republicans.

Republican leaders in Texas and Washington are furious. They have called the Democrats, holed up in a Holiday Inn in Ardmore, “cowards” and “terrorists.”

State troopers have followed the Democrats wives, parents and children. Troopers even staked out a hospital where one lawmaker’s premature twins are being cared for. Staffers have been harassed. All this has happened after the location of the Democrats was known.

Now, in a chilling revelation, we discover the Homeland Security Department was apparently used to try and track the Democrats’ whereabouts.

That’s why Texas Dems hang pretty tough. They have to in order to survive.

21. liberalcatnip - 13 June 2007

As for MOB’s apologia, the public isn’t as stupid as he makes them out to be. He’s focusing on one poll. I’ve seen other more detailed polls (even before the Iraq funding vote) that showed the disapproval rate of congressional Dems was in the toilet. So it’s not that Joe Average just blames “congress” in general. Some Joes and Janes actually are paying attention to what these Dems aren’t doing. And Harry Reid. Holy crap. Why doesn’t he just say “we lied” and be done with it? I’ll give him credit for being at least a bit honest and possibly committing political suicide but the bigger message is that they’re up shit creek without a paddle. They are defeated.

22. liberalcatnip - 13 June 2007

Oh yeah. I remember that now, moiv. Hilarious. I couldn’t remember what the issue was. Thanks for posting that. 🙂

23. marisacat - 13 June 2007

Oh Reid says things that are politically stupid. If the R ever had a reason to destroy him, commercials of his loose mouth would do it. But! a useful idiot.

24. Sabrina Ballerina - 13 June 2007

Catnip, the Texas Dems did flee after a confrontation with Tom Delay, airc. It was a good move but one of them caved in the end for some reason. Forget the details now, it’s been a while. That was when Tom Delay improperly used either the Patriot Act or Homeland Security to go after them. Nothing came of that either. There just are no consequences anymore for these criminals.

Re attacking Iran – weren’t they talking about using tactical nukes? Couldn’t they be used from the ships in the Gulf? There was an animated scenario online of what would happen if they used bunker busters on Iran’s nuclear sites, many of which are apparently underground. The effects, according to that site, would be devastating, killing eventually, as many as one million people.

25. liberalcatnip - 13 June 2007

lol mcat.

Anyway, I’m off to bed. Have fun!

26. bayprairie - 13 June 2007

in fall 2003, 11 senate dems did the same thing as the house dems did in the spring, but rather running off to ardmore they hid out in new mexico. both house and senate walkouts were eventually thwarted by various sell-outs, legislative bribes and a few craddick democrats.

a favorite democrat of mine is rodney ellis, senator from houston, who has shown up to fillibuster catheterized, so he doesn’t have to take a break to pee.

and then there’s sefronia thompson, houston house rep from houston who gives it to the bible thumpers straight up like this.

…I was unable to attend an integrated and equally funded school until I got my Master of Laws degree. There were separate and unequal facilities for nearly everything.

I got second-hand textbooks even worse than the kind you’re trying to pass off on every public school student next year. I had to ride to school on the back of the bus. I had to quench my thirst from filthy coloreds-only drinking fountains. I had to enter restaurants from the kitchen door. I was banned from entering most public accommodations, even from serving on a jury. I had to live with the fear that getting too uppity could get you killed — or worse. I know what third-class citizenship feels like.

In my first term, one of my colleagues walked up and down this aisle muttering about how Nigras should be back in the field picking cotton instead of picking out committees.

So, I have to wonder about Rep. Chisum’s 3/5 of a person amendment. Some of you folks hid behind your Bible then,too, to justify your cultural prejudices, your denial of liberty, and your gunpoint robbery of human dignity.

We have worked hard at putting our prejudices against homosexuals in law. We have denied them basic job protections. We have denied them and their children freedom from bullying and harassment at school. We have tried to criminalize their very existence. But, we have also absolved them of all family duties and responsibilities: to care for and support their spouses and children, to count their family’s assets in determining public assistance, to obtain health insurance for dependents, to make end-of-life or necessary medical decisions for their life partners — sometimes even to visit in the hospital, even to defend our own country. And then, we can stand on our two hind legs and proclaim, “See, I told you homosexual families are unstable.”

And nearly every one of you on this Floor has a homosexual in their extended families. Some of you have shunned and isolated these family members. Some of you, even some of the joint coauthors, have embraced them within your own family for the essence of Christianity is love. Yet,you are now poised to constitutionalize discrimination against a particular class of people.

I thought we would be debating real issues:education, health care for kids, teacher’s health insurance, health care for the elderly, protecting survivors of sexual assault, protecting the pensions of seniors in nursing homes. I thought we would be debating economic development, property tax relief, protecting seniors pensions and stem cell research, to save lives of Texans who are waiting for a more abundant life. Instead we are wasting this body’s time with this political stunt that is nothing more than constitutionalizing discrimination.

The prejudices exhibited by members of this body disgust me. Last week, Republicans used a political wedge issue to pull kids-sweet little vulnerable kids — out of the homes of loving parents and put them back in a state orphanage just because those parents are gay. That’s disgusting. Today, we are telling homosexuals that just like people of my ilk, when I was a small child; they too are second class citizens. I have listened to all the arguments. I have listened to all of the crap. Mr. Chisum, is a person who I consider my good friend and revere. But, I want you to know that this amendment is blowing smoke to fuel the hell-fire flames of bigotry. You are trying to protect your constituents from danger. This amendment is a CYB amendment for you to go home and talk about.

27. BooHooHooMan - 13 June 2007

Response to miss d at the end of the last thread


28. marisacat - 13 June 2007

oh Bay I remember when she made taht speech… I think it was Madman who landed on it and posted it at LSF..


29. bayprairie - 13 June 2007

yeah. shes worth money and a vote.

harry reid? the pretzledent donks?

not so much.

30. marisacat - 13 June 2007

shergald has a diary up on the march NYCee was at…

31. BooHooHooMan - 13 June 2007

moiv, excellent essay again

SB put it right:

You are the best representative of women’s issues at dk.

Thoughts of comfort and cheer for all that ails us and our furry friends.

“night all.

32. moiv - 13 June 2007

Bay —

Ain’t Senator Rodney just a champ? They got nervous when he showed up with the tennis shoes, but it was all over when they heard about his catheter. I hoped for his sake that it was the style I always refer to as a Catholic condom.

And Senfronia … there are no words that do that woman justice. I love that she’s filed for Speaker.

33. marisacat - 13 June 2007

wow… moiv, I did not know of that sort of male catheter.

34. moiv - 13 June 2007

Yep, Catholic condoms — not only have a hole at the end, but even a little funnel to aim straight at the cervix. 😉

Now that BHHM has gone to bed and won’t wince to hear it, I’ll tell you that I think they ought to come with a strip of duct tape. The barely sticky foam tape they’re packaged with has a habit of falling off.

35. bayprairie - 13 June 2007

well rodney’s the real deal.

so i’m guessing it was probably a red robinson 20 french!

36. moiv - 13 June 2007

Damn, a 20? That’s big enough to use for a gastric feeding tube. In fact, I’ve done it.

But I’m sure Rodney would have gone for the snazzy red. Hey, just as long as it wasn’t a Foley . . .

37. bayprairie - 13 June 2007

hey he’s a guy.

nothing but the biggest and best!

38. AlanSmithee - 13 June 2007

“On the war, Democratic leaders have only 49 senators in their own party to play with, plus one independent who usually votes with them.”

So what? It takes 41 senators to kill a bill. Like, you know, a FUNDING BILL. Reid isn’t even a very convincing bullshit artist, much less an “antiwar” democrat.

39. jam.fuse - 13 June 2007

Women love being around fights and tough guys in my experience(vis-a-vis upthread laments of female friends flirting with mercs).
I am NOT a tough guy btw (pencil necked big nosed computer nerd among other things), although I know quite a few. Never been in a real fight or owned/fired a gun, other than a .22 rifle at catholic summer camp when I was around eleven. I did get punched out a few years back on a DWW violation (Dancing While White) at an all black night club and bear the scars to prove it. The next night my blackeyed fat lipped self was picked up by quite a beautiful young Lithuanian babe, which believe you me is not something that happens everyday. Venus loves Mars.

40. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2007

Once again, applause and cheers for moiv.

re: gospel music from the last thread, not only the Carters and Johnny Cash, but the Louvin brothers and so many others. Oh, and bluegrass … one can’t love bluegrass without loving gospel. Mahalia Jackson and the Staples Singers are awesome too.

I also like sitting in a lovingly built church, temple or cathedral.

The point of the Pharangyla piece is that it’s the human work and love and faith and belief that are powerful, not the imaginary friend that they aim them at. We’d be better off if we managed to focus that love and energy on each other.

As for Reid, Jon Stewart really skewered him last night for his reading of the “Cat in the Hat” on the floor re: the immigration bill. Really, just retire to the the casinos and brothels and leave us alone old man.

41. Miss Devore - 13 June 2007

I hate to be the one to say it, but I think there’s a thread running through your recent posts, Marisacat.

42. supervixen - 13 June 2007

Yikes, that pic of Reid is repugnant. He looks like the fucking Pope. Put a cassock and a funny hat on him and nobody would know the difference.

Cat still dying. He hasn’t eaten anything since yesterday and really can’t move anymore. I have him in a nest of towels with a heating pad on top of him to keep him warm. He purrs whenever I pet him. The vet is coming tomorrow morning to euthanize him. I expect he’ll be gone by then – but then again, he’s pretty tough. It’s nice that the vet can come to the house to do this.

moiv, in answer to your musing about whether they miss us – I’ve spoken to a few pet psychics who tell me that the animals usually stay on in this life much longer than they should, because they want to make sure their humans come to terms with the loss. The animals are at peace with what’s happening – it’s the humans who are in denial/despair. So I guess that they miss us too, but they’re much more understanding of the whole process.

Also, moiv – haven’t read your latest diary at DK – I’m sure it’s terrific but I don’t have the stamina right now to put up with the crap over there.

Miss D, about something you said in the last thread about “weenie-waving” – I used to be mellow about my feminism, was certainly never a man-hater, in fact I had wonderful relationships with men and when I complained about the patriarchy it was mostly in abstract terms. But in recent years I’ve paid more attention to the patriarchal attitudes and I’ve realized that the radical feminists (most of them, at least) are right on the mark. I especially admire Daly and her steadfast campaign to rid the world of “snoolery”. Things have to change for the good of everyone, males included.

I mean, when you have a supposed Democrat senator who tells his wife that if it weren’t for American military might she’d be a snaggletoothed hag selling pencils on the street, and she thinks it’s cute, we’re in deep shit. Really deep shit.

BHHM, I appreciated your post about relationships. It was very apt. I agree – that’s what I’ve felt all along with DKos, and now, on a larger scale, with the Dem party. You start out assuming that the other in the relationship shares your values and has your best interests at heart, but noooooo…..

43. Miss Devore - 13 June 2007

Iraqi security forces arrested in bombing of Askariya mosque minarets. …they’re not standing up, they’re blowing up.

44. marisacat - 13 June 2007

laugh cue… Singer at MyDD has a wordy push back on the recent poll showing congress in a dive (I’d say both, in dive formation and hanging out in a dive, LOL)…

along the way he says this…

Some might call this an example of a political bias. I think this is a bit off the mark. Instead, I see this as a shining and ignominious example of those in the establishment media to print almost anything, even if they know it is intellectually dishonest to do so, to raise the profile of their organization — particularly by getting their name repeated over and over again on cable news.

How unconscious are they?

45. marisacat - 13 June 2007

Just looking over the spiegel.de email… and spied this, for Miss D.. who, iirc, collects squirrel stories:

Rodent on the Rampage: Squirrel Assaults Three Before Being Killed By Pensioner


46. ms_xeno - 13 June 2007

Moiv, just to clarify: My quarrel is not with your columns, but rather the clowns who are hoping to use them to tighten the noose on women who are already scared to death.

I think Kos is doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. May it blow up in his smug, stupid face. Spectacularly. Wouldn’t that be grand ? 😀

47. ms_xeno - 13 June 2007

Mcat, make sure Scruggs gets a copy of the squirrel thing. He’s very sensitive. 😉

48. wozzle - 13 June 2007

MissD #43: WTF? Almost all the Iraqi “defense” forces are Shi’a. WHY would they want to destroy the most importnat Shi’a shrine in the world?

SV and Mcat – condolences for your impending losses. Spouse and I have had to put down a few of our friends; it’s so painful, no matter how bad off they are. We held onto the fact that we gave them the happiest of lives we could.

49. Sabrina Ballerina - 13 June 2007

Those polls are devastating to Dems but predictable. Kossacks have been using the argument that ‘not Dem who was elected promised to end the war’. Funny, polls showed that the Iraq War was a top reason for voting for Dems. Now, Harry Reid admits what Kossacks have denied. They did promise to end the war.

Today, the defense of Dems against the polls is to attack THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! Lol! See, it is the people’s fault, they are too stupid to understand politics.

The Democrats allowed Republicans to claim that ending the war would harm the troops. They not only allowed it, they used it themselves. Obama stated outright that he would not support any bill that defunded the troops. I can’t decide if they are just plain stupid, or they think we are.

I see why there is so much panic over Ron Paul. Apparently he is polling well among Dems as well as Republicans because of his position on the war and on the Patriot Act.

The desperation that people felt in 2004 caused people to put all their eggs in the Dem Party. This time they see the results of doing that. The netroots thinks this is still 2004 – maybe instead of reading cards, instead of silencing dissenters, they should ask those of us who went along with the ABB meme in 2004, why we will not be doing that this time.

Not only has nothing positive resulted from supporting Democrats, things have gotten even worse. Six years of disaster with not a single victory. And promises of two more ‘until we get a Dem President in the WH’. Well, we are not buying that especially since the main candidates are talking about more war in the ME.

Poor Singer – the problem with these people is they sit around calculating, fiddling while Rome burns. Blaming everyone, Republicans, the American people, the Press while their defenses of the Democratic party become more tortuous and contorted.

Here’s what they could do to turn things around. Congress could issue a statement to the Commander Guy that there will be no more funding for his wars and he better start making plans for withdrawal on a date of Congress’ choosing.

Nancy needs to put Impeachment back on the table to use as a hammer as was intended, should the Decider decide to ignore Congress and refuse to accept a withdrawal date.

But they won’t do either of these two things. I’m beginning to think that Nancy and Reid were told to hold off until the Iraqi Govt passes the oil theft bill. The deal probably was that they could then set a date for withdrawal which would get bi-partisan support, maybe around September!

That is why they keep claiming they will have Republican support in the Fall. But if the Iraqis keep fighting them, as they are, that date will have to keep moving.

Too bad our Representatives don’t just do what is right. Start the process of ending the war and of impeaching the liars and crooks who got us into it. If they lost an election by doing this, so what. We are losing lives by not doing it. That is their choice, save lives or attempt to save your pathetic careers.

50. supervixen - 13 June 2007

Cat just passed on.

I’m glad the vet didn’t have to do it.

Thanks to those of you who have offered condolences. He truly did have a great, comfortable life, but we will miss him terribly.

On the bright side, we no longer have to deal with the awful peeing problem which we’ve been forced to live with for the last couple of years. He had gotten to the point where he only peed in the general vicinity of the litterbox, so I spent much of my time mopping up vast lakes of cat pee. Every once in a while we would discover that he had found an alternate potty location, e.g., in the master bedroom closet, under the desk in my office, in the guest room, etc. It was so depressing. Thank the Goddess that’s over.

51. marisacat - 13 June 2007

btw, here is the link to the LAT/Bloomberg poll… LOL The Gingrich must really sting… 😉

WASHINGTON — Fueled by disappointment at the pace of change since Democrats assumed the majority on Capitol Hill, public approval of Congress has fallen to its lowest level in more than a decade, according to a new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll.

Just 27% of Americans now approve of the way Congress is doing its job, the poll found, down from 36% in January, when Democrats assumed control of the House and the Senate.

And 63% of Americans say that the new Democratic Congress is governing in a “business as usual” manner, rather than working to bring the fundamental change that party leaders promised after November’s midterm election.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco), the first woman to hold that position, has also failed to impress many Americans. Only 36% approve of the way she is handling the job, the poll found.

In contrast, 46% of Americans in the current poll said they approved of the way Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia handled the job after he led the GOP into the majority in 1994.

I am guessing they have some private polling that reinforces this… 8)

52. Sabrina Ballerina - 13 June 2007

SV, sorry about your kitty – it’s never a good time to say goodbye to a furry friend.

Wozzle, I don’t know if they’re talking about the same attack, but the news is saying that ‘Al Queda’ is responsible for a devastating attack in Iraq. Maybe it’s two different attacks.

Miss D, when they spout that ridiculous line ‘when the Iraqis stand up we’ll stand down’ I have to laugh. The Iraqis have been standing up, that’s the problem. And now that word of the Oil Theft Bill is spreading in Iraq, it will only get worse. I have a feeling this could unite different factions against the occupation. The oil strike workers drew attention to this bill. Not one Democrat other than Kucinich has objected to it. They are all on board for committing the war crime of stealing the country’s resources.

53. marisacat - 13 June 2007

How can the Iraqis stand up. Being Pottery Barn figurines, they are broken. Waiting for the insurance settlement. Colin Powell had the temerity to USE that dreadful Pottery Barn (shop to solve terrorism!) statement, again.

54. Sabrina Ballerina - 13 June 2007

SV, just saw your comment re the death of your kitty. I’m so sorry, but as you say, it’s better that he died naturally. Mouse died naturally also last year. I was torn about taking her to the vet, but died peacefully in her sleep before that was necessary. I know what you mean about the peeing. She made valiant efforts to get to her litter box even on the last day of her life, poor little baby. I used to lift her into it whenever I could. She struggled heroically to get there herself and most of the time did not have accidents until the last day or so. I miss her so much ….

55. lucidculture - 13 June 2007

SV – condolences on the kitty. I am sure you gave him a wonderful life. Also I still can’t get over that quote about Webb & his wife yesterday. It really boggles the mind that something that is so racist, classist and sexist gets a complete pass not only by the community at large, but by the very person at which the slur is directed.

SB – didn’t you know that Al Queda is an enormous omnipresent force that is responsible for all ‘attacks’ on American interests. Sheesh, you need to keep up with the MSM… 😉

MitM – Church architecture is pretty cool – esp. old European churches. I’m a fan of Romanesque era basilicas myself.

56. lucidculture - 13 June 2007

As an aside – just happened to peruse the hidden comments over at that other place… All Ron Paul, all the time – the orders have gone out, anyone saying anything remotely positive about Paul must be TR’ed immediately – 2 freaking pages of Ron Paul comments [I think that makes 100 comments?]

There is also, though I didn’t read it, a diary entitled “Ron Paul Trolls”. LOL Add another one to the expanding ‘book of trolls’: Purity, Concern, I/P, and now Ron Paul!!!

57. marisacat - 13 June 2007


In case you look here before checking email, dropped a note to you..

58. ms_xeno - 13 June 2007

Oh, SV. Please accept my condolences.

It’s true that it’s sometimes sad that our friends don’t live very long. OTOH, parrot owners can tell you that pets who outlive you have their own complications. There’s always that worry they’ll end up with somebody who doesn’t care about them as much as you did.

I totally understand about the whizzing thing. I’ve been through it before, but mr_xeno has never lived with cats before this. I hope he’s not too horrified at how much time we’re bound to spend in a futile attempt at salvaging the floors. Oy.

59. ms_xeno - 13 June 2007

SB, the crowning irony of the fuss about Paul is that DP bigwigs and their apologists will express shock– SHOCK !! if the supposed prog base flocks to vote for him. This after the bigwigs and shills have done everything in their power to stamp out any and all contenders on their Left flank.

Well, fuck you, Kos. Fuck you, La Nation and fuck the other million-and-one perpetual Dem apologists. It’s you who were instrumental at creating this “Goat’s Dessert.” (Yiddish slang not unlike “A rock and a hard place” in meaning.) So spare me your whining about our shit choices. You trapped us in this corner again and again (making a nice living for yourselves in the process) and have absolutely, positiviely no business complaining when cornered, bullied animals try to administer the deep, nasty bites you have so richly deserved for so long– any way we can.

60. bayprairie - 13 June 2007

Cat just passed on.

im sorry SV.

61. Sabrina Ballerina - 13 June 2007

Ms x, I agree. The fact is that on the issues Kossacs are slamming Ron Paul for, anti-abortion eg, the hypocrisy is hilarious. If that is an issue for them, they didn’t show it when many of their favorite Dems did nothing to stop the Alito and Roberts nominations.

People are calculating, they understand Paul’s positions on issues other than foreign policy and domestic spying and destruction of rights (pretty important to most real progressives) are at odds with their own. But since Dems moved to the right on some of these issues and have supported the funding and continuation of this war, actually voted for the Patriot Act, the MCA etc. Paul begins look progressive.

Lucid, Paul is the new Cynthia McKinney. The vitriol is on a par with the viciousness of those threads.

Oh, and mx x, speaking about ‘making a nice living for themselves’ check out Sen. Durbin’s latest diary on DK. Boy does he know how to rope them in!

A few weeks ago, Chris Bowers posted a diary about “the need for more sustainable funding of the progressive, political blogosphere.” I couldn’t agree more — and I’m going to do my own small part by buying some blog ads, which I’ll come to in just a minute.

But I think Chris’ diary also teed up a broader question: How can all of the elements of the progressive movement join together to put America back on the right track — grassroots activists, bloggers, donors, elected officials, party leaders, and everyone in between? Yes, funding the blogosphere is an important element — and advertising on blogs may be one part of the solution — but as Chris has discussed, there’s certainly more to it as well.

Well, he just lost me for good … he is going to help fund people who silence the voices he claims are so important. Thousands banned, Democrats from these blogs.

The last thing that was needed was money being injected into the blogosphere. Until it became a factor, the internet was the only place people could go to find information and to diseminate it. The best activism occurred without any money. Now, according the ‘funded’ bloggers, you cannot ‘promote a candidate we do not approve of because we own this space’.

They are no better now than the media they were supposed to replace. Money brought the operators, the dissemblers to the internet making about as credible now as the MSM.

Go away Durbin – until you explain your vote to fund the war. I guess he waited for that little issue to die down, then came back with a bribe to overcome any animosity towards him for it. They need money. I am NOT interested in funding the likes of that fool Chris Bowers, who also cannot take any dissenting voice –

I hope people are not stupid enough to fall for this. I hope they hold onto to their money. They will not share the profits, they will not be buying a house in the Hollywood Hills. It will benefit only the ‘insiders’ who will continue to excuse every, single disastrous vote these politicians cast. Sick of it!

62. Der Jam.Fusen - 13 June 2007

All these fuckers telling us “be afraid be very afraid of the terrists!” are nothing but chicken little types. Can someone inject this into the public conciousness? Maybe a cartoon?

I think the man from K.O.S. sold his soul shortly after they turned those mercenaries into Colonel Saddams Iraqi Fried Chicken as displayed on the front page of the ny times. He wrote “fuck the contractors” or something, which is prezackly when I discovered his site and was impressed he wrote that. But quickly back pedalled when he realized it was not politically expedient for his stupid career.

63. Sabrina Ballerina - 13 June 2007
64. Sabrina Ballerina - 13 June 2007

Don’t know what happened to that link. It disappeared. Trying again:

Funding the blogosphere .. fighting for fair elections

In case that doesn’t work, here’s the url: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/6/13/135538/117

65. D. Throat - 13 June 2007

Geee…. I guess the Dems in DC are REAAALLLLLY desperate:

Funding the blogosphere — and fighting for fair elections
by Dick Durbin

66. Der Jam.Fusen - 13 June 2007

Pimping my friends killer paintings


Somebody buy a painting or give her a show.
Reasonable negotiable prices considering the quality.

67. Der Jam.Fusen - 13 June 2007

Considering we all have to go sometime, I cant help but feel a peaceful passing on is a blessing, supervixen. In retrospect I am thankful my late great old man died peacefully in his sleep a few years back and didnt have to suffer the horrors of a lingering hospitalization.

68. wozzle - 13 June 2007

Not desperate enough. Not yet.

69. Der Jam.Fusen - 13 June 2007


70. liberalcatnip - 13 June 2007

Just adding my condolences, SV. I’m so sorry. I lost a cat to a (surprise) pancreatic tumor a few years ago. I still think of her. (((hugs)))

71. marisacat - 13 June 2007


Several of Der Jam.Fusen von Transitcher en Allemagne (I work to fracture several langues at once!)

out of moderation

and one from Sabrina

LOL jam.fuse

I remember reading when the bright bulbs who work invasions realised what the acronym would be…

Whhooopsie! OIL

iirc it had to become Operation Iraqi Freeedom.

72. colleen - 13 June 2007

and then there’s sefronia thompson, houston house rep from houston who gives it to the bible thumpers straight up like this

Thanks Bay. I am in love with Sefronia Thompson.

SV, I’m so sorry about your kitty

73. marisacat - 13 June 2007


This is why I am opposed to the “leadership” PACS… and would nver never give a penny to one.

and just to spread the joy, Feingold’s own Patriot PAC (iirc that is the name, and frankly he could have chosen better all things considered) has bestowed a cash gift on MyDD.

I am just sayin’… the boys are old time greymail practitioners… soemthing the Dem party knows well.

74. marisacat - 13 June 2007

concerned voter hyde park | accountusedforleisure@hotmail.com | IP:


inconvenient voice of the informed voter

Jun 13, 12:51 PM — — A thread, again…


louisianagirl | accountusedforleisure@hotmail.com | IP:
so what does everyone think of the xenophobic title of virginiadem’s diary on jérôme à paris’s assessment of obama’s flawed foreign policy? a bit much, no? especially when she uses xenophobic language in her defense of a flawed foreign policy.

May 31, 3:40 PM — — The government has completely abandoned us


louisianagirl | accountusedforleisure@hotmail.com | IP:

i wonder what all of you think of this campaign commercial:

this is from a mayoral race last year in alexandria, louisiana.

May 31, 10:53 AM — — Blood Storm: Re-making Babel

<strong>Take it elsewhere babe</strong>.


PS: when you follow the prairie state blue link, well whammo! You get this:
<i>This diary has been removed </i>

75. lucidculture - 13 June 2007

cough, cough… spambotgirl.

76. moiv - 13 June 2007

moiv, in answer to your musing about whether they miss us – I’ve spoken to a few pet psychics who tell me that the animals usually stay on in this life much longer than they should, because they want to make sure their humans come to terms with the loss. The animals are at peace with what’s happening – it’s the humans who are in denial/despair. So I guess that they miss us too, but they’re much more understanding of the whole process.

SV —

I’m sorry your boy is gone, but glad he’s not suffering anymore.

What you said is what I know happens. For 15 years I had a catboy whom I loved like no animal before or since. We adopted him and his sister when they lost their mother, from before their eyes opened. His name was Eldritch, and his sis was Fey. They both were very dear, but he was particularly attached to me (I was the first thing he saw when his eyes opened, and I always thought he imprinted on me like a duckling), under hand or under foot all his life. At night, he would wait for me to turn out the lights and then claim his place on the bed (and on me) by jumping up behind my pillow, and then circling around my head and upper body to “his” place. He did it the same way every time.

Eldritch died, just as catnip’s kitty did, from a fast-growing tumor. It was on April Fool’s Day.

About a month after his death, I was lying in bed in the dark with Ducky alongside me, when I felt a weighty thump on the pillow just above my head, and then his distinctive stomping approach along his customary route.

I put my hand out to feel for Ducky, just to make sure I wasn’t mistaking what was was happening. And she was still sleeping just where I knew she would be. Nope, no mistake, it was Eldritch.

His weight, and my sense of his presence, stayed for a about two minutes and then faded. But he will never be gone.

77. ms_xeno - 13 June 2007

Re Feingold and the MyDDDDDDD money-pump:

It took me a few go-rounds to figure this out, but I did. Eventually. Time after time some fresh new face is booted upstairs to a key committee post, speaker, Whip, what have you. The cry goes out that they are the very flower of liberalism, that things have been rough but now we have somebody who’ll really kick butt, set the world on fire, etc.

Ten minutes later, the betrayal begins. Pelosi smooching Bush’s ass ten minutes after getting the minority post in ’02, was it ? There are a myriad of other examples, if one can fight off the tranquliizing effects of a short memory.

They could make Feingold speaker, the front-runner, or what-have-you tomorrow and it wouldn’t mean shit. He is roped to the mentality prized by assholes like Bowers. The very notice that he had achieved some high position would be the simultaneous notice that whatever teeth he once had were now filed down. Or extracted. What they tell you these people are put in charge to do is, in fact, the exact opposite of what they’re there to do.

Fuck ’em. They all deserve each other.

78. wozzle - 13 June 2007

moiv, spouse can still feel her bestest bud Lucy at odd times – but most often when she’s cooking. She’ll say “What does Tessa want?” and look down while Tessa is in the other room. Comforting, in a spooky sorta way.

79. wozzle - 13 June 2007

ms_x, blaming politicians for being assholes is like blaming leopards for having spots. It’s ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, and has been since the Pony Express was the Internetz. The system runs on, by and for $. Until we can reduce the effects of $ we will continue to have @holes running and winning.

80. marisacat - 13 June 2007

Honestly it is old time grey mail.

It may be cynical but that it what it is. It is not the end of the western world.

Grey mail is quite widespread. Few are not hedging it at one end or the other.

And for some it is cost of doing business.

Do I agree with dropping shekels on the Boyz, NO. But they are just the lastest gnats bitching at the still water.

81. D. Throat - 13 June 2007

Years ago I was living with my mother during a time I was extremely very busy working, my cat was hit by a car and killed. I took me about three days to notice because I could have sworn she was sleeping with me every night like she always did. My mother finally broke down and told me what happened when coming home early one night I was out on the porch calling for her… the news took me totally by surprise. The night before I was sure I had felt her walking across my legs while I was half asleep.

82. marisacat - 13 June 2007

all the cats who have lived here are at the back door periodically saying: Cat House! Cat House! Gather here!

I am sure they are waving some huge violet flag with Eqyptian hierglyphs.

God knows what the cats in the neighborhood were gossiping when my father used to parboil calves’ liver for the cats.

Onorato, the meat market on FIllmore below Geary, when he spied my father coming in, would sing out;

Kill the cats! — not meaning it of course.

When I was 12, 13 or so I worried how all the stray cats at the Coliseum fared… must have been my karma… the next time I was there, it was late, early evening…

damn if the evening meal was not delivered. Big triangles of butcher paper were opened and cats feasted on all sorts of goodies.

In Venice I saw that the small markets at each piazza would, at the end of the day, put out open cans of food. In the morning, just scoop up the empty cans as trash.

83. wozzle - 13 June 2007

Warning, not a happy post. I have a friend who grew up on a farm in western WI. His father kept cats around the place – feral cats – to keep the rodent population down. During “lean” years there would be too many cats for the rodent population, and his father culled the cats by placing two or three large pans of milk near the barn door, then after the cats had gathered shooting them with a shotgun, quickly killing those who were wounded with a .22. He said it was the humane thing to do, because otherwise they would starve or resort to cannibalism.

I feel fortunate to be able to feed our cats.

84. marisacat - 13 June 2007

TO picked up a Dkos diary from Conyers on the subpoenas issued:

White House Subpoenas

By Congressman John Conyers


Wednesday 13 June 2007

I wanted to share with all of you the reasoning behind a significant step I have taken in the investigation of the mass firings of federal prosecutors and the politicization occurring within the Department of Justice.

Today, I issued subpoenas to former White House Counsel Harriett Miers to compel her to testify before the House Judiciary Committee and to provide documents related to our investigation. My counterpart in the Senate, Chairman Leahy, issued separate subpoenas to former Rove assistant, Sara Taylor.

:: snip ::

85. witch - 13 June 2007

Defense Contractors want their paychecks, uninterrupted.

86. wozzle - 13 June 2007



87. marisacat - 13 June 2007

yeah… Conyers is walking thru. More is the shame.

As if he has jack shit to lose.

88. Revisionist - 13 June 2007

I think most people are wondering WHY you havent issued subpoenas until now. The dems are always trying to explain why they are doing something they should have doen a long time ago like its something shocking. Hey Conyers, everyone who has testified before you has commited purgery. Lets start indicting people and skip all these pointless hearings.

I swear I got 3 emails from boxer telling me why she was voting no on funding

89. missdevore - 13 June 2007

Fuck the Vatican (from the BBC)

“The Vatican has urged all Catholics to stop donating money to Amnesty International, accusing the human rights group of promoting abortion.”

90. marisacat - 13 June 2007


Ratzzzinger for Torture! And a Nazi WOuld Know How!! Sieg Heil!!

[i am all for framing]

91. wozzle - 13 June 2007

How much more can they alienate their own flock (their own words)?

Let’s go watch Pope Barabbas and vicepope Barabbush blow the world up.

92. New Fake Name - 13 June 2007

Conyers subpoenas? Yah. I”m sure Miers et al are shaking in their pumps

Are we supposed to expect he and his people will be better-prepared this time than they were for the Goodling hearing??

Goodling ran circles around 95% of the Dem committee members in Conyers’ hearing.

93. bayprairie - 13 June 2007

my my my.

concerned voter hyde park | accountusedforleisure@hotmail.com | IP:


inconvenient voice of the informed voter

Jun 13, 12:51 PM — — A thread, again…

louisianagirl | accountusedforleisure@hotmail.com | IP:

so what does everyone think of the xenophobic title of virginiadem’s diary on jérôme à paris’s assessment of obama’s flawed foreign policy? a bit much, no? especially when she uses xenophobic language in her defense of a flawed foreign policy.

May 31, 3:40 PM — — The government has completely abandoned us

i’ve seen this addy range before

feels good | igetintoalotofscenes@yahoo.com | IP:

i get into a lot of scenes, including kidnap and rape scenes. and i am a hardcore feminist who stars in porns. i love engaging in triple penetration.

Mar 26, 12:54 AM IP is approx 1733 dynamically assigned addresses removed from

and both posting at the same blog? a safe bet would be the same machine being used to do all three.

94. marisacat - 13 June 2007

yes I saved all of those rape comments. And pulled them up… I noticed the closeness of IPs

95. Kevin Lynch - 13 June 2007

let me add my condolences to all the rest. I guess we all have our stories. there are times, a year after her death, that Loni’s familiar thunk can be felt on my bed. it’s funny that such a demanding girl should still be coming back to comfort me (or to remind me that she’s still my lady and mistress).

prone to visions, or just plain nuts? you decide…


96. wozzle - 13 June 2007

Kevin, what we know is far outpaced by what we don’t know.

I get a lot of comfort out of that phrase (heard from my 10th grade physics teacher).

97. wozzle - 13 June 2007

Instructive and more than intriguing…

98. ms_xeno - 13 June 2007

wozzle, I wouldn’t care if they were assholes, if more of them could be the right kind. They should try being assholes to somebody their own size, for a change. :p

Contrary to popular belief, I do not select my candidates based upon whether or not they would be boon drinking companions. The opposite, in fact. I don’t want to get drunk with any of them, though I frequently want a drink whenever I have to read about them here. :p :p

99. marisacat - 13 June 2007

whoa!! Go Rusty1776! (from wozzle link above):

If you aren’t going to honor your oath of office, you don’t deserve to represent us in Congress.

I was an active member on ConyersBlog for more than two years, until you banned me last week for pointing out that you’re being a damn fool and a fucking idiot.


If refusing to Impeach these democracy destroying thugs Bush and Cheney isn’t damn fool fucking idiocy, I’d like to know what is.

You had the authority to ban me. Fine. You ALSO have the authority rendered to you by the Constitution to bring Impeachment charges against Bush and Cheney for pervasive and systematic violations of our Constitution and our laws.

I respected and admired you. I told you that many times over the two years I was on ConyersBlog. I’m telling you now that my respect and admiration for you is OFF THE TABLE until you put Impeachment ON THE TABLE.

I’m doing my job as a citizen by telling you this. You need to do your job as a congressman by honoring that oath of office you took.

100. ms_xeno - 13 June 2007

I have no afterlife visits from deceased pets to report. However, mr_xeno reports this from two years back, the morning after my Dad’s funeral, he was sitting alone downstairs. The rest of us were elsewhere in my sister’s place helping her with something or other. He was at the kitchen table, facing the deck. It was snowing. A large, healthy-looking black cat walked up the steps to the deck and sat down right in the snow. They looked at each other for a moment before the cat walked away across the deck and down the opposite-side steps.

My sister said later that she’d never seen any cats walk up there even in nice weather, though the complex did allow pets. She didn’t know of any neighbors nearby who kept a cat.

mr_xeno thinks the cat was “visiting” to tell us that the old man was pleased with the ceremony and happy to be wherever he was. My Dad was a lifelong cat lover who totally spoiled his cats about ten times worse than he ever spoiled his kids. Which is really saying something. [ahem]

101. NYCee - 13 June 2007

Yes, my condolences, too, sv.

102. ms_xeno - 13 June 2007

Lieber on the Kos thread:


Well, never let it be said that I get whiplash from the letdown borne of listening to 95% of the assholes resident in the Merry Old Land Of Kos.

Pay no attention to that schmuck behind the curtain, Jeffy-Weffy. Just perform your merry puppet show a few more thousand times and hope that your fellow peabrains will continue to find you impressive. It’s always worked before, right ?

BTW, Nader has been calling for Bush to be impeached for quite some time now.

103. NYCee - 13 June 2007

moiv – I love the story of your dog’s show of affection while you wash dishes. That so well exemplifies that gift that is the sweetness of a dog. I am captivated by dogs these days, but am not ready to take on the responsibility of having one. They are everywhere I go, all sorts, and I am always smiling at them like we are in the south and share greetings with strangers – which they are happy to do, often initiating the smile.

Marisa – thoughts with you and Baby today. Thanks for the link to the DC End the Occupation event. I watched all the youtubes provided. Says 5,000 attended there or at the catnip link, so I guess my initial guess was correct. I thought I might be highballing it, so I went with my friend’s more conservative 3,000. Here’s hoping it will be more next time, but I am happy it happened, regardless.

Catnip – thanks for the link. Yeah, the Israel-Firsters were there, and another sign I kept seeing from the counter protesters, which was really dumb, was “Israel is staying ON the map!” – Right, ending colonization means you dont get to keep yours. I guess we are all Ahmadinejah, is the message. Boy, he gave them a lot of mileage. Not that they wouldnt find something else. They always do.

104. Miss Devore - 13 June 2007

ok, after all this talk about what pets communicate, My dog is acting uncharacteristic. Nothing bizarre, but just so out of norm. he folllowed me into the bathroom when I got home from work–he never goes into the bathroom. and then he kept following me closely as I walked through my place–like almost through the legs. Now he is sitting in a place he never sits. He responds to affection like he usually does.

Earthquake in Bay Area?

105. ms_xeno - 13 June 2007

[hands MissD and Mcat a couple of hardhats, just in case. Oh, and one of those do-hickeys that makes it easy to shut off the gas main in a hurry.]

Yuck. I could gargle for a week and not get the nasty taste of wholly-owned party hack out of my mouth. Thanks a bunch, litlle Jeffy Lie. Though I may have misoverestimated just how many peabrains there really are still on Kos. More of them than I expected seem to understand that your dog won’t hunt anymore. Tsk tsk.

106. Miss Devore - 13 June 2007

This morning, I clicked onto the CNN cast about Katrina trailers being vandalized. The “vandalism” they showed wasn’t horrendous. “look, there’s a bullet hole here”, and it mostly consisted of people having removed light and kitchen and bathroom fixtures. The news caster went on raving against these offenses “at taxpayer’s expense!”, and I thought–hmm-do I recall outrage about 8 billion dollars of reconstruction money gone missing in Iraq?

But steal a light fixture from a frigging trailer.

107. Miss Devore - 13 June 2007

Rusty1776 needs a decal for “Banned from Conyers blog!”

108. moiv - 13 June 2007

NYCee —

I love the story of your dog’s show of affection while you wash dishes. That so well exemplifies that gift that is the sweetness of a dog. I am captivated by dogs these days, but am not ready to take on the responsibility of having one. They are everywhere I go, all sorts, and I am always smiling at them like we are in the south and share greetings with strangers – which they are happy to do, often initiating the smile.

It sounds like a sign — one is coming to you.

Jasper smiles a lot. The first time I took him into the clinic, the vet looked him in the face and said, “Look at that smile. You got a good one.”

My late husband’s elderly dog had died just 3 weeks before Jasper came, and I wasn’t ready for another so soon — or so I thought. My SIL just brought him home to me one Saturday night and said, “He needs you.”

He was right and I was wrong.

109. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2007

Sorry for your loss SV.

I can’t do pets, not since a couple of dogs were felled by accidents when I was a kid. Too heartbreaking.

110. Revisionist - 13 June 2007


I am a dog person. Its very important you know about breeds before getting one. what you want and expect from the dog and what job is ingrained in the dogs DNA. The breeds do have demeanorsSometimes a larger dog can be better for people in urban enviroments than a small one. Basenjis are small and rarely bark but are far from ideal for a small apartment. I advise gainst getting any toy breed since they are hopeless inbred and not only is it not right but it causes health issues. Then there are shedding issues. Ideally, I think you should see the entire litter when picking a dog to see how the interact to get the type of personality you want.

Anyway… Yeah, the ecomomy is booming. I just got an email telling me they had 300 applicants for the position and are trying to weed it down for phone interviews. sounds like they didnt even bother looking at them

111. liberalcatnip - 13 June 2007

One thing that bothered me this past week was the talk about the UN resolution to chastise Iran’s president for (supposedly – mistranslation) saying that “Israel should be wiped off the map”. Yet, as I’ve pointed out on my blog numerous times, in response to that that Shimon Peres said that Iran should keep in mind that it can be wiped off the map too. And who has functional nuclear weapons? Israel. Crickets chirped, of course, yet Ahmadinejad’s statement ends up before the UN as an incitement to genocide. Bloody hypocrites.

What the hell are they drinking over at dkos that they actually believed Bush when he said September would be the time to review how the surge was working? Of course they can’t admit otherwise because that’s exactly what the Dems have been selling. That “we’ll show ’em in September because we’re too damn scared to do it now” bullshit. What a pathetic joke.

In other news, I took my male cat to the vet’s today. He has an abscess on his cheek that can luckily be cured with antibiotics. ($110 later) That could be part of the reason he’s been howling so much lately. I don’t want to have to part with him if I can avoid it. Also, they had a chart at the vets about cat & dog years. I always just multiplied cat years by 9 to determine their human age but apparently the first year = 15 human years and then the increments go up in 4s from thereon. I think 20 years old was equivalent to around 96-100 human years, so that’s quite the life span.

112. liberalcatnip - 13 June 2007

And what’s up with this from kos? “Get them out now.”

I don’t recall ever seeing him advocating an immediate withdrawal before. I thought it was all about “Buck up!”

113. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2007


The Progressive Case for a Libby Pardon

I can’t even lift out a blockquote. It’s … well, jesus … it’s what happens when you listen to people WAY too caught up in the “inside baseball” of politics, NOT the effect it has on people’s lives. Basically, if Bush pardons him, it means Libby has admitted his guilt, and Bush has admitted some blame. That’s the gist of the thing.

Who is this moron?

Robert F. Bauer is a partner in the law firm Perkins Coie and Chair of its Political Law Group. A 1976 graduate of the University of Virginia’s School of Law, Bob’s practice includes the representation of national and state parties, independent political committees, federal elected officials, corporations and trade associations, and tax-exempt groups on matters involving regulation of political activity. Among other representations, Bob has served as Co-Counsel to the New Hampshire State Senate in the Trial of Chief Justice David A. Brock (2000); General Counsel to the Bill Bradley for President Committee (1999-2000); and Counsel to the Democratic Leader in the Trial of President William Jefferson Clinton (1999). At present, he is General Counsel to the Obama Presidential campaign.

THIS is the kind of thinking that led BillyBob to let Iran Contra go unpunished. THIS is the kind of thinking that lets high crimes and misdemeaners go unpunished while pushing a political culture more and more draconian toward the poor. Accountibility is only demanded of those unable to fend for themselves.

I’m so sick of this fucking corrupt aristocracy.

114. wozzle - 13 June 2007

Revisionist, great canine advice. I trust and admire the golden retriever lineage; hell, yeah, they shed, are large and require space and outdoors activities, but they are the sweetest and brightest animals on four legs. They LOVE cats, too, when properly introduced – very important point.

115. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2007
116. wozzle - 13 June 2007

MitM, inside the beltway. Perhaps inside the Daley machine, as well. Disgusting but not surprising.

117. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2007

Miss D, does your dog have some connection to Guatamala:

Update: Reuters says 6.8: Link (in Spanish). Ah, here’s a CNN report (thanks, Seth Rosner). The quake hit at 3:29PM ET, 1:29PM Guatemala Time. People felt it as far away as Mexico and the capital city in El Salvador, and the activity even registered on seismographs 1,800 miles away (!) on Midway Island.

118. missdevore - 13 June 2007

thanks for the chong, mitm.

119. missdevore - 13 June 2007

he’s a chihuahua, so he has some loose central american connections.

120. NYCee - 13 June 2007

Thanks for the dog advice, revisionist. I like them all – large and small, and see all sizes, breeds and mutts. Those little uns sure are cute and do seem suitable for apts, but perhaps not so much, given what you said. I dunno – they pretty much all seem happy out on the street. There is a pug around here named Daisy that I am wild about. Pugs look like “Ethels” to me, but Daisy goes with her funny face. I like to think it is only me that she goes crazy over … but I know she shares the love liberally.

moiv – I continue to love your tales of Jasper. I can so appreciate when others do as you did, even though you thought you werent ready. Maybe if I had some land, I would feel easier about having a dog. As things stand, I am still too selfish with my time to have a dog. I know my limitations, so I dont think I will get one soon, but maybe a cat. Even though I have developed this thing for dogs, once a cat gets in your abode it gets under your skin, and you become a “cat person,” has been my experience. I never knew I was a cat person till they started coming in my window and into my life. They also work well with my… um… gluttony for me-time. 😉

121. Revisionist - 13 June 2007

shedding OH GOD….

some long haired dogs only shed a couple of times a year. My main dog is an ultra short hair but sheds 24/7/365. It isnt really a big deal unless you are wearing black and roll around with him. You would hardly notice His bubba is a mixed breed. He has longer hair but got the shed every second of the day gene. I’ll brush him and we could literally make another dog out of it. There is a layer or hair covering the carpet every couple of days. I got him at the spca and i am pretty sure thats why he was sent to the doggie orphanage.

So many people dont really know about dogs before they get them. They just get something tahts cute with no thought to whetehr its a social dog or needs to work or is just happy laying around. I cant stand chained dogs.

I think teh worst are cat people who get dogs and then treat the dog the way they would their cat. (no offense cat people) My friend just did that. She just puts out water and food and thought taht was it. No training, bad discipline and ignored it most of the time. Last time I was over it was just roaming around the hood chasing cars.

122. liberalcatnip - 13 June 2007

he’s a chihuahua, so he has some loose central american connections.

That sounds mysterious. 🙂

123. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2007

and the winner of “I kiss AIPAC ass w/ more tongue, so give me money” prize is ….

Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton has won the endorsement of film producer and director Steven Spielberg, ending a tug-of-war between Clinton and Barack Obama for the Hollywood heavyweight’s affections.

“I’ve taken the time to familiarize myself with the impressive field of Democratic candidates and am convinced that Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate to lead us from her first day in the White House,” Spielberg said Wednesday in a statement released by the Clinton campaign.

124. missdevore - 13 June 2007

I wish I would have said this last week so I’d look wise; I wanted to say that everytime there is a story about Obama trying to catch up with HIllary, a certain amount of days go by, when there is a story about Hillary shooting ahead.

Just now there is a diary on dk, chiding the assembled that they are wrong about hillary and beginning like this:

“Recent 2008 polling has shown two things in particular. First, it has shown Hillary’s lead in the 2008 presidential race solidifying. After flirting with Obama and to a lesser extent Edwards, democrats are realizing that experience matters.”

I can think of nothing that Hillary has done of late to warrant a solidifying lead. Unless she picked the coolest fucking song for her campaign, and I missed something.

125. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2007
126. liberalcatnip - 13 June 2007

The owners of the acreage I used to live on had a Great Pyrenees puppy. He was absolutely friggin’ huge! I loved brushing him and my male cat would even play with him. They were quite the pair – chasing each other around.

The vet today was laughing about my male cat’s big head and strong cheeks. She was going to shave where his abscess was but I guess he took off so fast from her that he caught her off guard. And then she said she just couldn’t find anywhere to grab onto him because his cheeks were so muscular – no slack skin there. He weighs 11 pounds and is one solid and determined boy.

I could never be a dog person – too much work. I’m a slacker.

127. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2007
128. marisacat - 13 June 2007

well hillary is in good company. Spielberg et al. helped Arnold in his re election.

But not to worry, Clooney is still for Obama

129. marisacat - 13 June 2007

New Thread


130. missdevore - 13 June 2007

career dilemma: the dept chair is due to give me my yearly evaluation. Ordinarily, there is a process whereby the employee first gives input in a questionairre form (full of all the bullshit evaluation language). I’ve been too busy to do my input stuff, and the chair asked me today if I had time for the evaluation, and then told me “don’t worry, I said good things about you” (if I’ve known anything about this woman with working with her in other capacities, she is almost the most unprofessional woman I have ever worked with, and that whole line smacked of such girly condescension–and this is a woman who I had to teach her her previous position, who sued for tenure, who makes her bias’ well known against others…..I could go on.)

Problem is, there is a position open in the dept for which I am qualified, and which I will apply to, as soon as HR “opens” it; it would also increase my income, at least 10k/yr.

“Dear god, I need this job” to quote Chorusline lyrics.

Tell me what pitfalls to avoid!

131. NYCee - 13 June 2007

Just opened an email from my protest pal with some good photos of the EndIsraeliOccupation protest last Sunday.

And the Nuturei Karta always shows up to protest the very existence of Israel… Orthodox Protest

They show up every year in NYC to protest the Israel Day Parade. I went with a friend once, and we and various protesters (Jews Against the Occupation, socialist party people, etc) shared a tiny protest patch (one block) with them … as the parade went by… block after block after block of YAY Israel groups, camp kids, orgs, floats, smiley local politicians (nothing wrong here… its all good!)… Across the street from us were some really nasty folk with signs lauding Rabbi Meir Kahane, etc.

I understood how overwhelmed the Palestinians feel when I experienced that parade.

132. NYCee - 13 June 2007


Dont know if this is at all relevant, but …

Suck it up. Make no waves. That’s what most of them like. Sad, but that’s what comes to mind. You can let your squeaky wheels squeak once you get where youre going. Use their bs lingo too.

These are things I have trouble doing, so I speak from experience.

133. missdevore - 13 June 2007

NYCee-thanks. I so want to speak my mind and let my inner viper uncurl when I see such incompetence at the top. But the people who may be critical to making the decision on the hire in the open position are 2 who have most gamed the system, and both have given bad input on me in the past when I challenged them on their loosening rules to essentially pad some stats.

134. marisacat - 13 June 2007

say less. SMILE. Keep the goal in mind.

135. ms_xeno - 13 June 2007

Oy. My poor MissD. Office politics suck. :/

I concur that a low profile is key. If you can’t bring yourself to tell a fool what she most wants to hear, at least try to let your silences imply that you agree with her foolishness.

Sucks, don’t it ? But a viper’s gotta’ eat, too. At least once a week, I hear…

136. liberalcatnip - 13 June 2007

Okay, so kos was too young to vote for Reagan but:

I voted for Bush in 1992, but that was the last time I voted Republican.

137. liberalcatnip - 13 June 2007


As a 17-year-old precinct captain in 1988, not even old enough to vote, I helped deliver one of the district’s best precinct performances for Henry Hyde. I had a framed picture of me with George H. W. Bush.

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