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Alley cat, alley cat.. ;) 15 June 2007

Posted by marisacat in Divertissements.

    alley cat alley cat... ;)

Maybe La Louche has energy but I am pooped… 😉



1. supervixen - 15 June 2007

Cripes, I’m wading through eugene’s diary and it’s simply astounding – a vast honking pomposity combined with poor writing skills and dense mentality. He’s like Miss Laura would be if she tried to parody Winston Churchill. Thank the Goddess that Miss L is smart enough not to try that.

The scary thing is that eugene styles himself a “historian” but he is clearly just a propagandist making shit up. How postmodern.

2. marisacat - 15 June 2007

yes eugene lacks complexity.

3. Miss Devore - 15 June 2007

a lot of younger people blogging did not first go through the experience of reading their hand-written journals a year later and cracking up in laughter on the soaring pretentious babble. I can’t tell you how many years I did that. Oh, and I haven’t stopped. A lot of this blog thang is an ability to type and form sentences.

4. Miss Devore - 15 June 2007

another text message from hillary–she is completely with me on lavender epsom salts foot soaks. She has often prayed that god would peel off the calousses.

5. lucidculture - 15 June 2007

How postmodern.

Indeed. It’s like those buildings that make no sense with in the context of the environs in which they’re built, they’re poorly built, and they ultimately serve no function to really build a community…

ot – I’m currently listening to “The Hippies” on the [sic] history channel… And they’ve gone from Anton Levay to Charles Manson without losing a beat… and just shortly before they were discussing Aldous Huxley.

Lord. Not to mention the ‘blurb’ is ‘the rise of the counterculture’. I can’t stress enough how much I despise the term ‘counterculture’. We’re not against culture. In fact we’re more ‘cultured’ than you. We simply want you to own up to the inequalities in the ‘cultural’ norms you live, enforce and reiterate with every fucking breath you take. Oh yeah – and we want you to fucking change the way you live.

6. marisacat - 15 June 2007

Honestly I never thought of Anton as a hippie.

I remember when I was a child or close to, he walked his leopard I think it was.

Later in the Satanism period, he was pretty well tied in with the cops.

An old old friend of mine, with whom I shared no interests but we had known each other from childhood… was one of his many many many mistresses.

7. Miss Devore - 15 June 2007

hey-Judy Tenuta has a blog. I think she’d love being a VAG, and not being possessed.

8. lucidculture - 15 June 2007

OMFG… This ‘documentary’ just blamed the ‘hippie’ movement for blighting the rise of a black middle class because they encourage ‘blacks’ to ‘tune in, turn on, and drop out’…

Holy shit. I’ve never seen such fucking blatant twisting of ’60’s…

And now, they’re going on about how ‘if you joined a commune, you had to sleep with every man there…

I think this might be a doc directed by Markos…

9. liberalcatnip - 15 June 2007

I think this might be a doc directed by Markos…


She has often prayed that god would peel off the calousses.

Is there a prayer chain going for that yet?

10. Sabrina Ballerina - 15 June 2007

Lol, Miss D – nice that you and Hillary have found some ‘common ground’!

I never read Nancy Drew or The Hardy Boys. Didn’t grow up here so maybe that’s why.

Lucid, I wonder how long it will take for this country to get over their fear of the sixties. That period of time must have really threatened some in authority! I don’t know why, since they killed all the icons of the era not to mention more than a million brown people, one of our favority passtimes, and a few college students also.

All the ‘counter-culture’ (I hate that term also) got out of it was that blacks no longer ride in the back of the bus! So, what is so scary to the PTBs about the sixties? Looks to me like they won! Simplistic, I know, but I really don’t get the fear! It’s apparent on DK also.

11. liberalcatnip - 15 June 2007

When’s your next date, lucid? Enquiring VAGs want to know so we can live vicariously through you.

12. lucidculture - 15 June 2007

OK. Now I am steaming mad. This so-called documentary not only claims the Paul Rubin & Abbie Hoffman instigated the 1968 incident in Chicago, but that the ‘lasting images’ are those of ‘radical militants’ instigating violence & provoking a police response.

Holy Fucking Shit.

Do the words “The whole world is watching” have any resonance with the producers of this fucking crap.

Watching this piece of shit really makes me think I’m living in dysotpia.

13. lucidculture - 15 June 2007

LC – theoretically tomorrow night. I left a message tonight with some suggestions. Haven’t heard back. I hope I didn’t scare her off… When I got home last night I was listneing to some tunes and just sent her a very brief ‘hoping your having a good day’ e-mail….


Now I’m feeling all insecure.

14. lucidculture - 15 June 2007

OK, I just heard back. Apparently bad day at the lab & bad emotional day with her folks. [Her dad is a recent paraplegic & she is an only child… I can only imagine how that might play out.]

So… we’ll see.

15. Kevin Lynch - 15 June 2007


feeling all insecure? pretty typical after a first date, if my experience has any validity. you always feel that you should have done something better. worry about something awkward that happened and you missed it. maybe it was the spinach? between the teeth? who knows. you have to give it time.

Gawd damned hippies! they’re to blame for everything bad that’s happened since before they were born! and now they’re plowing under desert flowers to build their eco-friendly dream houses *sigh* Ameriprise can kiss my ass!


16. liberalcatnip - 15 June 2007

That’s a really tough situation for her. 😦 Glad to hear you heard back from her though. Hang in there!

17. supervixen - 15 June 2007

Lucid: it’s horrible, isn’t it? These “TV documentaries” are nothing but propaganda, using propaganda techniques. The “TV documentary” mentality is bred from that and we see it on DKos all the time. Sensationalism + simplistic thinking = easily controlled masses. Did you see the diary that made the rec list a few days ago which had no useful content except a graphic description of two little girls screaming while they died? The moral being “be careful of trucks”? People just luuuuuvvvved it. Bring us the sensation, no need to bother with reading lots of books.

18. supervixen - 15 June 2007

Lucid, don’t worry, let her have some space. A woman who goes on a date and ends up passionately making out in public tends to feel self-conscious in the days thereafter. Speaking for myself here.

19. liberalcatnip - 15 June 2007

A woman who goes on a date and ends up passionately making out in public tends to feel self-conscious in the days thereafter.

Not me! Then again, I am a brazen hussy…

20. liberalcatnip - 15 June 2007

Naomi Klein: How war was turned into a brand: Political chaos means Israel is booming like it’s 1999 – and the boom is in defence exports field-tested on Palestinians

21. keirdubois - 15 June 2007

For what it’s worth, I’ve been seeing many reviews of that wretched “documentary” lucidculture mentioned, and every review/observation I recall is overwhelmingly negative. Nobody is liking that crap. I wasn’t exactly scrupulous about saving links, though.

22. liberalcatnip - 15 June 2007

I just can’t get away from Equitorial Guniea! Is that a sign?

Harper’s has a new article that looks interesting. I’m not a subscriber but they have an teaser: Their men in Washington.

Harper’s Magazine’s Washington Editor Ken Silverstein has spent years watching Washington, D.C.-based lobbying firms advocate in Congress on behalf of corrupt, dictatorial foreign regimes. He wondered: Exactly what sorts of promises do these firms make to foreign governments? What kind of scrutiny, if any, do they apply to potential clients? How do they orchestrate support for their clients? And how much of their work is visible to Congress and the public, and hence subject to oversight?

For answers, Silverstein went undercover as “Kenneth Case,” a consultant for “The Maldon Group,” a mysterious (and fictitious) London-based firm that claimed to have a financial stake in improving the public image of neo-Stalinist Turkmenistan.

In the brief excerpt below, “Kenneth Case” and his coworker “Ricardo” visit the grandest of the Washington lobby shops.

[more about Cassidy & Associates]…

23. liberalcatnip - 15 June 2007

I know this Reuters headline is about the troops but I thought it was funny considering how absolutely fucked up the Pentagon’s leadership and staff obviously are: Pentagon says more funds needed for mental health

24. marisacat - 15 June 2007

I was just reading this crap heap in the SF Chron (yes Barbara, team up wtih Biden, let’s end the facade) and spitting nails…

when I fell on this quite sane piece in the London Times.

Love the title:

Why We Must Break with the American CRAZIES

Mr kaletsky has us pegged…

I say this with growing despair, because I too have returned from a fact-finding tour, to America. Viewed from across the Atlantic it is clear that the parochial British obsession with WMD and “sexed-up dossiers” bears no relationship to the catastrophes now unfolding in the Middle East and beyond – not only in Iraq, but also in Gaza, Lebanon and Afghanistan, and soon maybe Syria, Iran and Pakistan.

What people are talking about in America is not whether the invasion of Iraq was legally or morally justified but why it went so disastrously wrong and whether the same blundering fanatics will launch another catastrophic military adventure, most likely a bombing campaign against Iran, to distract attention from failure in Iraq.

After all, the neoconservative ideologues who still run the Bush Administration have nothing left to lose politically – and in their fevered imaginations they still think they could inflict military defeat on the “Islamofascists” in what they now see as an even greater historical confrontation than the Cold War.


As the anarchy in Iraq goes from bad to worse and Washington’s only answer is to expand the circle of its aggression, clichés about the special relationship are no longer sufficient.

Mr Brown must decide whether to remain a silent but active partner in this madness, whether to retreat quietly like the Italians, Poles and Spaniards or to develop a third and genuinely courageous option. This is to positively forestall further disasters by breaking publicly with the Bush Administration and trying to develop a genuine European alternative to the suicidal American-led policies, not only in Iraq, but also in Israel, Palestine and Iran.

Well I don’t ahve much hope. Mr Brown has sounded as nutty about Iraq as the xtian Blair. And soon he will see how very much money Tony can make as a full time poodle in America.

25. marisacat - 15 June 2007


NY Daily News also got copies of the Obama camp oppo dox on Hillary. Some bits of details…

They land a kick at the NYT for hiding the lead.. and the NYDN publishes the doc…


Sen. Clinton (D-Punjab) Joked That She Was Senator From The Punjab Region In India. “At the fundraiser hosted by Dr Rajwant Singh at his Potomac, Maryland, home, and which raised nearly $50,000 for her re-election campaign, Clinton began by joking that, ‘’I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily,’ after being introduced by Singh as the Senator not only from New York but also Punjab.” [India Abroad, 3/17/06]

Clinton Says “Outsourcing Does Work Both Ways.” Crain’s New York Business wrote, “Mrs. Clinton may be motivated by a desire to uphold the free trade legacy of the Clinton years. […] In an appearance on CNN’s Lou Dobbs Tonight, she boasted about attracting 10 jobs to New York from India-based Tata Consulting. When Mr. Dobbs inquired if she had understood the degree to which Tata, which helps U.S. companies outsource, was stealing American jobs, Mrs. Clinton rejoined: ‘They’ve actually brought jobs to Buffalo. Outsourcing does work both ways.’” [Crain’s New York Business, 6/21/04; CNN, 3/3/04]

In An Interview With Lou Dobbs, Senator Clinton Defended Her Support Of Tata Consulting, A Company That Brought Ten Jobs To Native Buffalo Residents But Destroyed Thousands Of Jobs Over The Years. Lou Dobbs asked Clinton, “Senator, a number of people pointed out to us, e-mailing us and calling us, saying, ask the senator about her helping Tata Consulting, a well-known outsourcer, open jobs — and office in Buffalo, New York. I’m asking you, did you really understand the degree to which they were involved in outsourcing jobs when you were there?” Clinton replied, “Well, of course I know that they outsource jobs, that they’ve actually brought jobs to Buffalo. They’ve created 10 jobs in Buffalo and have told me and the Buffalo community that they intend to be a source of new jobs in the area, because, you know, outsourcing does work both ways.” [CNN, 3/3/04]

26. supervixen - 15 June 2007

Browsing Wednesday’s feminizzzzzsms diary before going to bed, I found this:

Abusive men are like cobras. (24+ / 0-)

Recommended by: burrow owl, Unstable Isotope, DebtorsPrison, VetGrl, tryptamine, sarahnity, vcmvo2, Fabian, Elise, KiaRioGrl79, Ice Blue, maryru, begone, irishwitch, Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse, emeraldmaiden, Themistoclea, Ellicatt, donnas, AntKat, BentLiberal, Noor B, kath25, brklyngrl

They entice you into their baskets, and then trap you there. They convince you that you are the most wonderful woman in the world, but that only they realize this. Then they proceed to tear you apart emotionally and psychologically, until you are a quivering mass of fear and insecurity and shame. They have you in their thrall — which is where they want you, because they are shameless, insecure, cowardly snakes, who only feel real when someone else is in their control, subject to the only real “power” they know — the power over someone else; the power to coerce and bully that someone else into submission. They are sadists.

I am glad the jury in this case grasped the horror of the basket Mary found herself in.

I’ve lived in that basket. It’s a terrible, terrible place to live.

Everything any of us can do for women who live in these baskets must be done. They need places to go to get away (which takes such enormous courage) — somewhere that is SAFE — before tragedies like this happen.

Bless you, BentLiberal, for this diary.

1-20-09 The Darkness Ends “Where cruelty exists, law does not.” ~ Alberto Mora.

by noweasels on Wed Jun 13, 2007 at 06:27:56 PM PDT

That comment is interesting because she is one of the most vocal, most obsessed Webb fans on DKos. She’s a total nut about him. Just search on “noweasels” and “webb”.

Don’t miss this exchange:

Who are those “few Democrats” (15+ / 0-)

still pissing submissively on the floor?

by sherlyle on Mon Jan 01, 2007 at 04:23:37 PM PDT

Put them in a room with Jim Webb (24+ / 0-)

for a couple of hours, that’s why I say. 🙂

1-20-09 The Darkness Ends “Where cruelty exists, law does not.” ~ Alberto Mora.

by noweasels on Mon Jan 01, 2007 at 04:49:47 PM PDT

YES!! (3+ / 0-)
Recommended by:mattes, noweasels, greenearth

Webb could just curl his lip at ’em and they’d get back in line.

by sherlyle on Mon Jan 01, 2007 at 05:16:37 PM PDT

MMMMhhhhmmmmmm yeah, nothing yummier than a snarling Alpha Male telling you what to do.

It’s looking like many of the DKos wimmens grew up with obnoxious, abusive men and are sexually attracted to them. Hence the common obsession with Armando.

27. bayprairie - 16 June 2007

TPM says “Obama talks about the absence of his father in eloquent Father’s Day weekend speech”.

Obama Calls on Fathers to Be Responsible

i dont have any real problems with the points made, even though the piece isn’t very informative. TPM’s “eloquence” is a stretch.

do have a problem with this.

The Illinois senator said he would invest $50 million in programs to help people find transitional jobs and get training for permanent employment.

could he earmark any less?

28. marisacat - 16 June 2007

well I am assuming at some point Hillary and the consort hit back.

rivulets of blood. That is all I ask.

29. moiv - 16 June 2007

Miss D and catnip —

She has often prayed that god would peel off the calousses.

Is there a prayer chain going for that yet?

Not enough, not nearly enough. For a job that big, she’d call in her “prayer warriors,” too.

More coded language for the fundies, and clumsily done at that. Even Bush does a smoother job, slipping in comparisons of Roe to Dred Scott so deftly that half the country misses his meaning and thinks he just flubbed yet another line.

30. marisacat - 16 June 2007

Just saw this at Harper’s — LOL

General Pace Acknowledges He Was Forced Out

BY Scott Horton
PUBLISHED June 15, 2007

Associated Press quotes Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Peter Pace in his first remarks following Secretary Gates’s announcement of his pending replacement on June 8:

Gen. Peter Pace disclosed that he had turned down an offer to voluntarily retire rather than be forced out. To quit in wartime, he said, would be letting down the troops.

Pace, responding to a question from the audience after he spoke at the Joint Forces Staff College in Norfolk, Va., on Thursday evening, said he first heard that his expected nomination for a second two-year term was in jeopardy in mid-May. Defense Secretary Robert Gates on June 8 announced Pace was being replaced.

“One thing that was discussed was whether or not I should just voluntarily retire and take the issue off the table,” Pace said, according to a transcript released Friday by his office at the Pentagon.

“I said I could not do that for one very fundamental reason,” which is that no soldier or Marine in Iraq should “think—ever—that his chairman, whoever that person is, could have stayed in the battle and voluntarily walked off the battlefield. “That is unacceptable as a leadership thing, in my mind,” he added.

Just drips with battlfield patriotism and love of the soldiers.

SHould make the hapless Reid quite queasy. I get the feeling he may have served his time. Bit of an intensity about this melee.

31. Sabrina Ballerina - 16 June 2007

Lol, Catnip, you brazen hussy you! Maybe this sudden interest in Equitatorial Guinea IS a sign. I’m going to read that article. Harper’s Silverstein is a good reporter. I followed his reporting on Hookergate last year, and especially found his digging into the historical connections between some of the leading players from CIA, very interesting.

Keirdubois, I haven’t heard much about that doc. Lucid is watching, but many people lately have complained about a rightwing tilt on the History Channel –

Marisacat, if only Brown would do as that guy suggested. It would be a beginning of maybe getting world condemnation for what this administration has done. Too many were willing to cooperate. They need to be cut off, and we surely aren’t doing it on our own. We can dream though!

Lucid, well, it’s nice that she called back …. keeping fingers crossed for you!

SV, abusive behavior is approved of by the owner of the site. They think it’s cool for some reason … sad. I read a thread earlier today when l followed a link and it would make you shudder to see the obsessiveness with going after people. Always the same group too.

Well, I’m off to bed ’cause I’m falling asleep so goodnight vipes … sweet dreams!

32. marisacat - 16 June 2007

This is hilarious on so many levels Martin is just downright smarmy… . To their credit most commenters are underwhelmed.

33. keirdubois - 16 June 2007

Well to be honest his sweatshirt grab thing was infinitely more dramatic.

34. marisacat - 16 June 2007

that was pretty funny too.

35. lucidculture - 16 June 2007

Listening to Patti Smith to numb the pain…

36. NYCee - 16 June 2007

Watched Charlie Rose last night. Ziggy, Henry, Brent.

Zig spoke sense on the democrahypocrisy of the treatment of the Palestinians (boycott, etc) after they democratically elected Hamas. Spoke of how another opportunity was missed to bring them into political fold, as they were attempting to do. Mentioned their ceasefire and their concession re “Israel’s right to exist” (disingenuous armtwist to stay off the road to peace)

Also spoke to the possibility of Ameridiocy repeating itself in Iran. (Bomb bomb bomb…)

The need to say, Iraq was Fucked Up, so as not to keep feeding the quagmire, so as to really get out.

I would tell you what Kiss said, but I kept mistaking him for a bean bag chair (a striking resemblance when seen in profile).

37. D. Throat - 16 June 2007

I guess I was too cryptic in the last thread about Pace.

Yes, it is now clear that Reid was just carrying the GOP water trying to smear Pace in front of the blogosphere.

38. wozzle - 16 June 2007

Good morning, Vipes ‘n VAGs! Allow me to ask why anyone cares about Bowerstoller? They are SO antesellum…

39. Miss Devore - 16 June 2007

wozzle-I never read either of them, and read kos very little-there was an air of high school class presidents about them.

40. wozzle - 16 June 2007

As a former HS class president, I’m appalled. I should have my own commercial blog! With Chevron ads and Ann Coulter makey-niceys!
Did I miss a boat somewhere?

41. Miss Devore - 16 June 2007

I love the taste of foot in the morning…

42. BooHooHooMan - 16 June 2007

I think Reid was carrying GOP water in the manner that a runner picks up a “package” to take uptown. Easy pickins for a quick score, right?

Your analysis of “no where to turn” is spot on for the endangered species of a conscientious Brass. Prolly more like Nellie the Loch Ness Monster or BigFoot.

Jeezus, individuals once willing to face live fire all run for cover from the considerations of domestic political psy-ops? Fuck them all –Powell and Pace, and the Nevada Deserter too. So much for the Oath of Allegiance if you believe in such things. If they weren’t in it for personal aggrandizement at the start, they sure as hell are now. Mercenaries and fall guys everywhere, with lounge lizards and bimbos on the phone, eager to take the call, to get the latest inside dope on the fight.

43. BooHooHooMan - 16 June 2007

Bowers resignation from MYDD was just picked up by the BBC , Just like Cindy Sheehan’s Story….……….


44. colleen - 16 June 2007

Martin is just downright smarmy…

When hasn’t he been?

My favorite episode of delusional self importance and pseudo-macho posturing:

For me, the blogosphere has always been about opposition, not cheerleading. It’s in our blood. Like a shark, we can’t survive if we don’t keep moving.

Is he trying out for a writing gig with the Onion?

45. marisacat - 16 June 2007

I laughed out loud at that one. Really what one sees the most is that they fall in love with each other…and the blurberation.


Well I did not find the “generals’ revolt” of last spring credible. And in fact agreed with Bacevich (such tragic irony) that they were in hard scrabble form to retrieve whatever might be retrieved for history.

Oh fellas, we got one for the ages here. You know how they still teach the Pelopponesian Wars?

Here is a news flash, TOBY KEITH says “we have been there long enough”. Heard it myself on Tavis Smiley last night.

46. wozzle - 16 June 2007

Only took him four years to realize he’d been scammed? Oh, my, my.

47. marisacat - 16 June 2007

Well he seems farther along than most elected Democrats. Who spent the last two days relying on canned PR the party set up for the Reaganite racist. That would be Webb.

When Toby Keith is out ahead of the so called opposition (yes I know they are not) party…

What’s more, Keith is a Democrat.

All you can do is laugh.

48. brinn - 16 June 2007

Morning VAGs!!

Game One final Score Red: 12, Green 1

Wow! Lotsa fun! It was 1 to 0 through 3 innings, and then we just wore ’em down….heh. Those 2 hour practices are paying off! (the games are only an hour and a half…)

Game 2, the final one, for all da marbles, is next week….I’ll ask for more energies then.

Thanks, all!

Oh, and catnip? Yeah, I *am* having too much fun, and no, I won’t stop! 😉

49. wozzle - 16 June 2007

Go, Big Red! Er, Little Red!

Just think of the endorsements…

50. marisacat - 16 June 2007


Oh don’t miss it. And catch the first line from the commenter.

You know I used to read Bowers stuff in 2003 at Dkos. His hairbrained way of measuring incidence of mention on Google – for one (at least recently he still excreted that idiocy). I thought it was lame. I ALSO thought he was about 23.

You know this tired fella who now says he will found some great game in the sky to put not just Democrats but progressives (whatever that is, it seems to mean ‘able to drive to the next stop light’) into office, has declared, quite loudly and repeatedly, that “The LEft” is responsible for all electoral losses.

Seems he never read a 2300 word speech of Kerry’s that became 5,250 words and went so seriously off track that no one, NO ONE knew anymore what the speech was about (his speech to the convention in LV NV of the National Guard, 2004 – just one example).

As I said, they all went seriously crazy on their tiny island.

51. Sabrina Ballerina - 16 June 2007

Cheers for Red! Congrats, Brinn! Lol! Glad you’re having fun! 🙂

52. Sabrina Ballerina - 16 June 2007

Wozzle, I was wondering about Little Red also, but as long as Big Red is having fun! Lol!

progressives (whatever that is, it seems to mean ‘able to drive to the next stop light’) marisacat

Rotfl, exactly right – I always hated that word, it was another capitulation to the right’s demonization of the word ‘liberal’.


53. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007

Not me! Then again, I am a brazen hussy…

I’ve heard that about Canadian women … must be how people stay warm up in the frigid north.

54. marisacat - 16 June 2007

well unfortunately “liberal” will vote for just about anyone presented as acceptable. And the bar ths fearsomely LOWWWWWWWWWWW….

And in 2008 the Dems will STILL be running on ATOTB. Any thing other than Bush.

We can’t even achieve the minimal goal of stopping the Bush/Reagan (0.00 / 0)

revolution, without successfully articulating an alternative ideology. I was watching a labor leader on Bill Moyers the other day. He pointed out, in not so many words, that we have spent the last decade, especially the last few years, crying about how powerful the right wing evangelical movement is and how effectively the corporatists have harnessed it, without seeing that they are a minority which has become immensely powerful through organization, while we, progressives, are a majority that is disorganized and inarticulate.

What will happen in 2008? Well, if we keep playing not to lose, we’ll see another rw stooge like Giuliani or Thompson take us further down the Hell Hole.


by: epppie @ Sat Jun 16, 2007 at 04:50:18 AM CDT
[ Reply ]

How easily epppie has talked herself into it. Some elusive “we” must be organised. The ONLY thing the Dems offer – and in fact call it organised (you get to be THE finger in the dike for the SCOTUS!) – is to vote for them.

55. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007

the comments to that Times article you linked to are full of ignorant righties, but this one cracked me up:

I was curious as to why so many american based contributors bother to read the Times so I logged on to the New York Times and now I know.

Terry , Radstock, England

56. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007


Family values: We Americans love to talk about them and think about them right alongside patriotism and civic duty as the ultimate expressions of our national core, the glue that binds us together.

So why do we have immigration laws that are specifically, almost devotedly, anti-family?

Many right-wing critics of American immigration policy are fond of saying that current policies would work just fine if the government would “just enforce the laws that are on the books.”

It seems never to occur to them that the main reason the government doesn’t do so, at least not on a massive scale, is simply that the laws as written are largely unenforcable — or perhaps more to the point, that enforcing them actually creates larger problems, to the point of atrocities, than those they were intended to address.

The chief problem with immigration law in America is the misbegotten nature of the laws themselves. Much of this has to do with their nakedly racist origins, the legacy of which has never been erased.

57. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007

War Poetry

This was submitted to a poetry contest that Kristoff put out to his readers:

One, by a fourth grade student in the South Bronx, Raphael Sosa, is chilling:

I feel sad.
my friends are angry;
I’m scared.

how did my father die?
who killed him?

my father has died.
the tv tells me we won
but my father died.

my father is dead.

58. marisacat - 16 June 2007

part of the Great Hispanic sacrifice for this war.

What wretched shame it all is. Or would be if Americans could feel shame.

And Kristoff and the wife and the kittle pops and two nannies (yes indeedy, in the great tradition of one per kid) are off when? for the next Great Non Liberal Adventure?

So heartily sick of them ALL.

59. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007
60. marisacat - 16 June 2007

An FT/Harris opinion poll, out on Monday, suggests Mr Blair remains a divisive figure, with 64 per cent of Germans, 60 per cent of Britons and 53 per cent of French respondents saying he would not be good for the job.

I could be wrong but i think rat shit Sarkozy is helping his new bestest friend rat shit Blair to negotiate a higher price in USD for USD Poodledom.

Just a wild guess.

61. bayprairie - 16 June 2007

keirdbois says

Well to be honest his sweatshirt grab thing was infinitely more dramatic.

as well as being violations of law.

and good sense.

62. Sabrina Ballerina - 16 June 2007

Sad poem Mitm – there are so many orphans from this war, far more in Iraq, but here too.

I just read that thread about Bowers on MLW. It’s so obvious what’s going on with him. Poor Nonpartisan, he’s so easily fooled.

The fact is that once the majority was achieved, (it was ‘working towards it’ that kept the BBB in business, formerly skeptical members of these blogs, are finally jumping ship, realizing the scam it all was.

To keep the money flowing they have to reach out and try to grab those easily fooled ‘liberals’ once again. After saying for years that single issues, ideals are not important, they have worn that marketing tool out.

Nonpartisan blindly accepts that Bowers has ‘wow’ quit his job! As pointed out to him, who says so?

Did he not see the promise in Durbin’s post last week to ‘financially support the netroots’ specifically mentioning Bowers?

Bowers, Stoller, Kos and especially Armstrong the conman, are perfect foils for the Party! Since hardly anyone in the world knows who they are, but they have served the purpose of silencing those who did realize that the internet COULD be a powerful tool for the people, they are very useful for that purpose alone.

Fortunately, those who are familiar with the harm the BBB has done, will not be fooled this time, but it seems Nonpartisan is.

I would be willing to bet that Bowers has been promised more money to team up with, (just what a people-powered movement needs like a hole in the head) another DC INSIDER! It’s really just too funny for words ….

The only reason I’m not worried about anything poor Bowers does is because NO ONE outside their little insider group, now weakened considerably, knows who the hell he is!

At least he actually tells people in his hilarious self-indulbent meanderings, that he is in it for himself! One thing that distinguishes many of these phonies from the real people who care about their country first, is how many ‘I wants’ and ‘me’s that are always present in their posts.

They need to be shoved out of the way now, they’ve gotten away with the deception long enough.

Oh, and NP defended Bowers for not banning people? Lol! He has NOT been paying attention.

The ‘netroots’ was and is a sham ….. time to get over and past it. The country is in the toilet and they helped put it there by blocking any voices of real change.

Bowers will be used as the ‘progressive, idealist’ brand of the netroots, because they are losing them! And he will be linked to by the rest! Marketing is all it is, and anyone having read these guys for any length of time can only laught. I admit I never read them at all, too boring and disinterested in the real problems we were facing, until I started following links here. I am not better off for the effort, just more aware of the game they all played, for their own personal benefit.

63. marisacat - 16 June 2007

I ahd nto been to MLW in a couple of weeks. And am finding it a whale of a party. Between Non partisan (and pyrrho as well!) and Donkey Tale….

64. marisacat - 16 June 2007

Oh if anyone can stand it, some of martin’s lines (poor sod, so unconscious) in HIS piece on Bowers are the clue.

We will be hearing them for 18 months (or whatever the countdown is to Nov election booth smash box)

One in particular, that ’08 is different from ’06.

To which I just say, the party should have split between ’68 and the mid seventies.

Watergate ws just so timely

Instead we got the “split” imposed by Bob Strauss and the Biz Wing, who took over post McGovern.

65. marisacat - 16 June 2007

Also note that in his list of who is to be blamed, pyrrho leaves off Armando.

Still in love I see.

66. brinn - 16 June 2007

Thanks, SB and wozzle! Little Red is doing great — he had a blast last night! They all had their hair spray dyed red, even the coaches, and everyone on the team had a good night (one of Coach’s favorite sayings is “everyone hits”!!) 😉

Little Red has a real innate passion for baseball — he’s been playing since he was 3, in All-Stars, he’s played Right Field, Third Base, and Catcher. I am going to try to put some pix up later this weekend — when I do, I give ya’ll a link!

Thanks for indulging me, this is our first All-Star season and we’re just having a great time!!

67. marisacat - 16 June 2007

They all had their hair spray dyed red, even the coaches, and everyone on the team had a good night (one of Coach’s favorite sayings is “everyone hits”!!) — brinn

Oh isn’t that great! What fun…

68. Sabrina Ballerina - 16 June 2007

Though barely noticed in the political pressure cooker that is MyDD, Chris’s article is, in my opinion, a key post in the history of the blogosphere. It is a significant and vital break from the Daily Kos-electoral victory style of blogging. While many smaller and less-influential blogs (notably, of course, My Left Wing) have both advocated and practiced a more ideology-centered blogging, this is the first time I have ever heard one of the “Top-20” bloggers voice such a sentiment.

That it’s Chris who’s making the statement is unsurprising to me, as he’s been moving in this direction for months. But Chris’s voice is so eminently respected in the left blogosphere that his call, if he chooses to repeat it, cannot be marginalized or ignored.

That, friends, is deemed worthy of comment by yours truly.

Self appointed ‘top 20’ bloggers! And who is it who respects them? A small group of thugs who hope to profit from the association, but I don’t know anyone who respects them, use them maybe.

I only read them for the entertainment value. For what is really important, it is advisable to go eslewhere. There are so many great writers on the internet. None of them are currently among the ‘top 20 bloggers’!

He compares Bowers’ transfer from paid Mydd lackey to more-than- likely paid Insidere DC Consultant lackey, to Bilmon’s departure from the blogging world? What an outrage, really. I don’t think Bilmon was ever beholden to DC insiders. But aside from that Bilmon wrote about OTHER PEOPLE’s issues, real issues that were facing this country and the world. He did not sit around navel-gazing and picking up a check from special interest groups, that I recall.

He was thrashed at DK last summer for his posts on the criminal war on Lebanon, and it was after that, that he disappeared. He dared to criticize Israel’s actions while DK and the BBBs remained shamefully silent about that massive crime! It is a sacrilege to mention Bilmon in the same breath as Chris Bowers!

Marisacat is right, they have gone crazy on their tiny island, the only hope to maintain any sanity, is to get off as fast as possible.

Pyrrho certainly laid it all out for NP in that thread, so he can’t say later, ‘no one told me’! He so wants someone to look up to, and not to alienate anyone so he can promote his own ‘work’. At this time in our history, we need people are willing to give their time and efforts freely to try to save this country, or what’s left of it, not self promoting little wannabes who have only beem in the way since they first this ‘movement’ as a means of promoting themselves. Disgusting opportunism is all it is.

Hey I have an idea for NP. Just ask Chris how much he’s been offeredo switch from ‘political pragmatist to progressive idealist’! As if a conservative, Norquist admirer can ever change his spots and become a liberal idealist! It really is funny when you think about it!

69. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007
70. Sabrina Ballerina - 16 June 2007

Oops, should have included the link. That was NP speaking in the blockquote:

One Bloggerati who finally gets it

Brinn, how funny. Died red hair! You guys are having a lot of fun! Lol! Wish we all could be there, cheering you on! Will be rooting for you all next week! I love that you’re having such a great time! Applause for you and little Red!

71. bayprairie - 16 June 2007

joyce arthur just put up a piece at la gran naranja.

The Fetus Focus Fallacy (revisited)

and the DU outed republican troll jiacinto is commenting. even taylormattd is trying to shut him up.

jiacinto, the man who almost singlehandedly chased cindy sheehan away from posting at dkos, paints dkos in republican colors.

what about that doesn’t whack management get?

72. marisacat - 16 June 2007

Billmon, who I so enjoyed and commented at for the year and half or so he had comments, pulled his punches tho. On/about Kos / Dkos.

He would never make the connections between Dkos, Kos and the very fucked and corrupt party. And frankly, if you oppose Israel/AIPAC/the hideous and loaded with emotional and racial blackmail collusion for war and domintation – as Billmon did – you had best be willing to state the connections, as you see them.

In fact he wrote that he ADMIRED kos for supporting Webb. And opposing Lieberman (a cynical play for leverage as the new baddest operatives, well that flopped)…

Myself, I think Billmon fell apart. he would not make the connections that are like a bright red pimple.

And then he neatly erased it all.

73. marisacat - 16 June 2007

if anyone were to ask me, Jacinto was primed to go. And it is NOT a good day when as has been regularly happening, taylormattd is the response to jacinto.

The diaries are a wonderful idea and loaded with valuable information and writing (I loved Harrison’s last one).. but the game is so rigged.

Which is just what I thought of the great screaming battles thru many abortion threads, between Emsock and jacinto.


74. Kevin Lynch - 16 June 2007

Good news is always welcome, brinn! Bring home the trophy and send pics!


75. marisacat - 16 June 2007

For some reason BlahgSnotospheria (skippy did not coin that one!) appears darker than ever to me today.

Going off for a glass of champagne.

Just to say moderation bail out might slow..

76. marisacat - 16 June 2007

Lovely… AQ safe houses. As if.

US Finds IDs of Two GIs Missing in Iraq


The identification cards of two American soldiers missing since an attack on their unit in May were found in an al-Qaeda safe house north of Baghdad, along with video production equipment, computers and weapons.

American soldiers approaching the building were wounded before air support could arrive.

sounds a badly planned take down of the Big Bad Safe House.

77. wozzle - 16 June 2007

The SURGE! It’s finally fully peopled! It only took six months to get an extra two or three divisions in place! And they’re going after SAFE HOUSES!

From the afterlife, George Marshall is laughing his fanny off. George Washington and US Grant are sharing a bottle, shaking their heads. And Robert E. Lee slowly tears out his beard…

78. bayprairie - 16 June 2007

“i’m pro-choice but”

I’i’m pro-choice but”

jiacinto’s not pro-choice. anyone who buys that needs a ticket to the clue train. actions, not words, count on this issue. his actions are always to come into the women’s threads, say he’s pro-choice, and then set about derailing the discussion. he used the same technique to chase cindy sheehan off the site. his treatment of her, and the way he was allowed to get away with it, was one of the site’s low points.

it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out who the real trolls are. shouldn’t someone in management get a clue?

hello!!! mcfly!!!

79. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007


For that is what it is about – control – and that is why we hold out, and withdraw, favours from their leaders. Now Gaza belongs to Hamas, what will our own elected leaders do? Will our pontificators in the EU, the UN, Washington and Moscow now have to talk to these wretched, ungrateful people (fear not, for they will not be able to shake hands) or will they have to acknowledge the West Bank version of Palestine (Abbas, the safe pair of hands) while ignoring the elected, militarily successful Hamas in Gaza?

It’s easy, of course, to call down a curse on both their houses. But that’s what we say about the whole Middle East. If only Bashar al-Assad wasn’t President of Syria (heaven knows what the alternative would be) or if the cracked President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad wasn’t in control of Iran (even if he doesn’t actually know one end of a nuclear missile from the other).

If only Lebanon was a home-grown democracy like our own little back-lawn countries – Belgium, for example, or Luxembourg. But no, those pesky Middle Easterners vote for the wrong people, support the wrong people, love the wrong people, don’t behave like us civilised Westerners.

So what will we do? Support the reoccupation of Gaza perhaps? Certainly we will not criticise Israel. And we shall go on giving our affection to the kings and princes and unlovely presidents of the Middle East until the whole place blows up in our faces and then we shall say – as we are already saying of the Iraqis – that they don’t deserve our sacrifice and our love.

How do we deal with a coup d’état by an elected government?

80. marisacat - 16 June 2007

well I think the clue is that jacinto is on the payroll.

81. wozzle - 16 June 2007

BP, jiacinto is a putz. Always has been and not bright enough to be worth any thought. Why is he still there?

Brinn, rarely do I give parenting advice but don’t let Li’l Red do too much catching before his knee joints develop. Take it from one who knows from personal experience.

82. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007

Glen Ford:

Barack Obama is the antithesis of Black Power, a man who promises with every word he speaks, with every nuance of phrase and body language, and through his voting record as a U.S. Senator, that he personifies the definitive end of Black organized struggle in the United States – a unilateral surrender to white racism. This is his appeal to the white masses: that they will no longer be challenged to confront history, or to relinquish privilege in the present.

Obama’s siren song to African Americans is of an entirely different nature. He does not have to sing it; we provide the music, ourselves. The lyrics and melody are actually alien to Obama, but he has heard them off and on in his strange sojourn through life, and senses their power to sway us. He understands that most of us will demand nothing from him – not even elemental allegiance. His “Black” flank, he knows, is covered, while his white “progressive” flank is neutralized and confused by Black failure to recoil at his betrayals of the most basic elements of social democracy. The field is wide open to the greatest opportunist to emerge from melanin-rich ranks in the New Millennium.

Obama has already cashed in on his “Race, but not really, Card” – to the tune of $25 million dollars in contributions in the first three months of this year, three-quarters of it from corporations. This does not happen by accident. Since setting foot in the U.S. Senate, Obama has directed his entire message machine to the task of convincing corporate America that he is a friend who can be counted on to leave the actual Power Game in their hands.

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Ford ends with:

Since that time as a nobody, Obama has become a great presence that threatens the very fabric of Black politics, having declared there is no such thing. At a recent gathering of Black trade unionists who support the most left-wing social democratic agenda that is allowed in American political discourse, Obama was treated as a savior – despite the fact that his applause-filled speech endorsed almost none of the specific planks of Black trade unionists. He had fudged again, and gotten away with it. No white man could pull it off, but Obama did, and entertained fans for an hour afterwards, taking pictures with folks who wanted to show their grandchildren that they had been in the presence of the next Black president.

He is a knife in our hearts.

84. marisacat - 16 June 2007

Ford and Dixon at BAR are very angry and – to their credit, I do not toss it as insult – bitter.

I read that piece a couple days ago… and I read at BC all thru their exposition and following Obama. from 2003 onward.

I don’t want to correct their own impression, but I did not get the sense they gave him a “pass”. They know best, they were inside the workings of what amounted to on-going mediation wtih him, one on one or rather two on one, over DLC and other things, stepping back from the war, declining to pursue much needed policies in America…

I think they did what they could. I suspect their anger with themselves is that they did not expose more early on, that they fell for the old bugaboo, that he “could be worked with”. When he is a paper doll.

The game is so rigged.

85. marisacat - 16 June 2007

oh not to worry. MB is on site in the Choice Joyce diary. The way is clear, a voice for the wimmens is on hand.

Off for more champagne. My saving grace is I can’t type sober, either…


86. brinn - 16 June 2007

re#81 No problem, wozzle, that’s the kind of advice I always welcome! 🙂 So thanks!

When approximately do knee joints develop in young boyos? He’s still at the level of play where everyone plays more than 1 position (even within the same game), so he doesn’t do too much catching all at once — 2 innings at most. Also, he’s so short that he doesn’t actually get into a full squat behind the plate, just sort of bends his knees and lines the glove up behind the batter! It’s waay cute!

87. brinn - 16 June 2007

Madman — you’ve been on a roll these past few days — so much good stuff!!

Just wanted to say thanks!

88. Sabrina Ballerina - 16 June 2007

Didn’t know Billmon remained connected to DK, Marisacat. He has erased everything, sad. I saw them thrashing his Israeli/Lebanon coverage last summer, not directly involving themselves in the issue (that’s off limits) but admonishing him for being ‘too emotional’ etc. Maybe he didn’t want to out his former friends, don’t know, but it’s odd that no one knows anything at all about him. He just vanished after that.

WAPO finally writes an article about the huge Private Army of mercs in Iraq! Lol, the Dems knew about this, yet did nothing to stop it! More proof they are all one party, the war party! Makes sense because an Empire cannot have an opposition party.

Someone needs to ask when that army is coming home, or going home to their various countries. I doubt Americans thought that ‘support the troops’ meant support a private army of foreign mercs. But Dems said nothing! For four years. They’re building up the numbers too, that’s why they needed the money so badly. ‘Support the troops’ – what a sick joke it all is!

Mitm, that’s cute, ‘little Vag’ … lol!

89. Sabrina Ballerina - 16 June 2007

Aw, you’re such a proud mom, Brinn. He sounds adorable. 🙂

90. ms_xeno - 16 June 2007

Mcat, that’s why I laughed the other day at the twits at LJ who called my rants “bitter” and “cunty” and the like. As if the best thing a person can do in the face of betrayals by the truckload and outrages dropped from the sky every ten minutes is to put on a happy face.

Those little pikers at LJ would probably rush away from two paragraphs of Ford screaming and clutching their burning eyes, if they think my little ramblings are so hard to take.

MissD, I never filled more than two pages of a year-long diary as a kid. I was such a lackluster writer that I even bored myself. You can see that I’m still trying to recover from these literary setbacks, thirty years after the fact.

Sorry to interrupt all the important news, not to mention the Summer thrills of baseball and/or make-out sessions, but I wanted to say hello and carry on to everyone even though I’m going to be super-busy this weekend.

Have some good links re: the ICE raids in PDX which I will try to post later, in case folks missed them. bfp is doing good writing about that on her blog as well, as radfem reminded me last night. bfp and James have my favorite blogs that load way too fucking slow on my pathetic Mac, so I don’t read them as often as I should.

Must get coffee and anti-lung-rot drugs. Later, vipes.

91. marisacat - 16 June 2007


Perhaps two glasses of champagne (well, methode champagnoise, CA sort) makes for mirages…

but Arthur Silber just kindly dropped an email, to alert of a new post at Power of Narrative / Once Upon a Time (Hillary slam, her eazy squeezy on torture)


that Hersh has a new one up at The New Yorker.

I should add he was very complimentary about the thread commenters here…


92. marisacat - 16 June 2007


a rightie outed Billmon. Sometime ago… his name and once his name was known his place of work. Tho anyone could have figured out most of it. It happened a good while before he shut down and erased.

He very much came to Kos defense during the articles and “outing” of Armando and exposition of what a conman Jerome is/was/whatever. June of last year. Basically he took up for Kos agaisnt TNR.

Gosh I don’t see any difference.

93. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007

thanks brinn …

Lots more time to find good stuff when I’m not wasting time at the Big Bahx Blahhhgggsss anymore.

I was just at Silber’s place earlier this morning. He must have just posted it. On my way.

94. marisacat - 16 June 2007

From the Hersh:

Taguba was met at the door of the conference room by an old friend, Lieutenant General Bantz J. Craddock, who was Rumsfeld’s senior military assistant. Craddock’s daughter had been a babysitter for Taguba’s two children when the officers served together years earlier at Fort Stewart, Georgia. But that afternoon, Taguba recalled, “Craddock just said, very coldly, ‘Wait here.’ ” In a series of interviews early this year, the first he has given, Taguba told me that he understood when he began the inquiry that it could damage his career; early on, a senior general in Iraq had pointed out to him that the abused detainees were “only Iraqis.” Even so, he was not prepared for the greeting he received when he was finally ushered in.

“Here . . . comes . . . that famous General Taguba—of the Taguba report!” Rumsfeld declared, in a mocking voice. The meeting was attended by Paul Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld’s deputy; Stephen Cambone, the Under-Secretary of Defense for Intelligence; General Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (J.C.S.); and General Peter Schoomaker, the Army chief of staff, along with Craddock and other officials. Taguba, describing the moment nearly three years later, said, sadly, “I thought they wanted to know. I assumed they wanted to know. I was ignorant of the setting.”

In the meeting, the officials professed ignorance about Abu Ghraib. “Could you tell us what happened?” Wolfowitz asked. Someone else asked, “Is it abuse or torture?” At that point, Taguba recalled, “I described a naked detainee lying on the wet floor, handcuffed, with an interrogator shoving things up his rectum, and said, ‘That’s not abuse. That’s torture.’ There was quiet.”

Rumsfeld was particularly concerned about how the classified report had become public. “General,” he asked, “who do you think leaked the report?” Taguba responded that perhaps a senior military leader who knew about the investigation had done so. “It was just my speculation,” he recalled. “Rumsfeld didn’t say anything.” (I did not meet Taguba until mid-2006 and obtained his report elsewhere.) Rumsfeld also complained about not being given the information he needed. “Here I am,” Taguba recalled Rumsfeld saying, “just a Secretary of Defense, and we have not seen a copy of your report. I have not seen the photographs, and I have to testify to Congress tomorrow and talk about this.” As Rumsfeld spoke, Taguba said, “He’s looking at me. It was a statement.”

At best, Taguba said, “Rumsfeld was in denial.”

95. Miss Devore - 16 June 2007

Sabrina–I still can’t believe people are surprised about the private military companies. I’ve been reading everything I can about it for years, and am now on Pelton’s “Licensed to Kill”. It’s a post-cold war phenom, that, yes, exploded, with this Iraq war. How does anyone think we can manage to build our larger-than-the Vatican embassy when most people in Baghdad can’t experience more than 3 hours of electricity/day, unless they use generators?

I think the “face” of the war will wind down, when we are able to control Iraq’s resources. And sadly, I think many of the soldiers who manage to survive their military duty in Iraq will be compelled to sign on to private contractors for the financial rewards, and because what they have endured in Iraq will make them unlikely candidates for civilian employment.

96. marisacat - 16 June 2007

oh but SF PD is actively recruiting from Iraq veterans.

Biiiiiiiig Mistake. They better start building up the city coffers for the law suit payouts.

97. missdevore - 16 June 2007

from the bbc:

“US ‘to unblock’ Palestinian aid
The US says it will lift sanctions against Palestinians once a new cabinet without Hamas is sworn in. ”

the US is spreading the democracy “lottery” everywhere.

98. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007

guys like Takuba have always puzzled me. What did he expect? History is replete w/ venal powerful men using up and throwing away well-meaning subordinates. He should consider himself lucky that he didn’t get the Ritter treatment, complete with trumped up sexual predator charges.

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100. marisacat - 16 June 2007

I have not finished the article. But I watched him pull his punch at the hearing. After that point, he deflated.

I decided it has to do with his children. IIRC two of them serve in the mil.

Frankly I was disgusted he did not retire (2 star retirement is very very comfortable) and for god’s sake REALLY do the right thing. Live up to the report.

Suicide by president. They – all of the mil – seems intent on it.

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102. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007

Sayeth Timmeh, about the Donks not debating on Faux

COLMES: That’s why — you know, candidates of both parties should
come on this show. They don’t. Democrats don’t want to go on with him; some Republicans don’t want to come on with me. I think that’s wrong. And I think Democrats make a mistake not allowing a debate to take place on the FOX News Channel.

RUSSERT: It’s a TV show. If you can’t handle TV questions, how are
you going to stand up to Iran, and North Korea, and the rest of the world?

103. missdevore - 16 June 2007

ok-I just finished the hersh article-I got the impression Taquaba (sp) did retire..

104. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007

Hersch is on with Wolfie tomorrow morning.

105. wozzle - 16 June 2007

Brinn #86 – There’s no “good” age, but not a regular diet of catching until they’re ~16. Knees are funny things.

Taguba is acting surprised, when he was given the opportunity to find a fatal flaw? He could have assigned blame to any of a number of lower ranks and did NOT do so. He should have been honest about that, but give him credit for not doing so in the first place. The milliterry is a weird place to do one’s life’s work. Unless one is a natural born killer.

106. marisacat - 16 June 2007

Am Prospect has an excerpt from McKelvey’s Monstering on a meeting she had with Sam Provence and looking at his never released photos and videos from Abu Ghraib.

107. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007

I heard an interview w/ McKelvey on NPR not long ago … chilling.

108. Miss Devore - 16 June 2007

czech my intuition on this one–I think the guinea-pig pet memorial dk diary “Goodby Pigbeast” is a fake. I would feel horrid dishonoring anyone’s pet death, but the pics do seem photoshopped and there is this weird accounting of the animal’s episode of anal impaction.

109. marisacat - 16 June 2007

can it go lower than fake guinea pig death throes – with impaction?

110. Miss Devore - 16 June 2007

oh nevermind. I looked at the persons other diaries and they have a similar tone.

111. Miss Devore - 16 June 2007

I just thought the person might be mocking pet deaths. Just a very unusual poster.

112. brinn - 16 June 2007

re#105 — thanks wozzle!

The only thing Lil’Red is interested in a steady diet of these days is hot limon cheetos!

113. liberalcatnip - 16 June 2007

They look like cigarettes, but they’re not exactly smokin’.

I’ve tried to catch up here about 3 times today but an internets friend had a bit of a crisis and the teenager in the house kept me awake with his loud party last nite (2nd one this week now that he’s finished school). His dad doesn’t have much control over him. Oh and my mountain bike has disappeared. Great. Walking isn’t exactly my forte right now. Why does life hate me?

/end of whining

114. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007

I rather enjoyed this diary

115. liberalcatnip - 16 June 2007

I’ve heard that about Canadian women … must be how people stay warm up in the frigid north.

I’m obviously not doing something right. 🙂

Congrats, brinn (and have fun for me, please).

Bowers. zzzzzzzzz. He’s definitely making a business move. I rarely even clicked on that site because it was so damn boring. I see MOB was in full defend my buddy mode at his place saying that poor Bowers was just taking orders from Armstrong about what to write. Oh, the agony! Get the man a couch to lie down on. And now he’s setting himself up as some kind of ideological saviour for the left? Really. Who’s buying that crap besides a few desparate boyz who need a hero? Give me a break. He found a better paying job. That’s all.

116. liberalcatnip - 16 June 2007

#114. I have a feeling that the only way Bush will face any consequences is if and/or when there are proceedings internationally against him. And I know he conveniently pulled out of the ICC. I do see lawsuits, if not criminal charges in other countries in his future though. I’m not counting on the Dems to impeach. It just isn’t going to happen. They’re too scared.

117. liberalcatnip - 16 June 2007

RUSSERT: It’s a TV show. If you can’t handle TV questions, how are you going to stand up to Iran, and North Korea, and the rest of the world?

Obviously breathing but left his grey matter at home.

118. wilfred - 16 June 2007

Good diary Madman. I just wish the Dems would get off their asses and do it.

119. outofwater - 16 June 2007

MM-Thanks for the link. Just what are they going to do about this problem?

120. liberalcatnip - 16 June 2007

Oh yay! Another FP flu diary at dkos. (Can someone please tell me what the hell that has to do with “getting Democrats elected”?)

121. liberalcatnip - 16 June 2007

By the way, I’m glad I didn’t take the time to check out dkos last year during the Israel/Lebanon war. I already had a handful to deal with on my blog covering it every day. I think my head would have literally exploded if I’d read what was going on at dkos too. Like today again, for example. I swear they have GIYUS plants over there, not to mention the regular crowd who can’t be bothered to get their heads outta their asses.

122. liberalcatnip - 16 June 2007

And the award for most willfully ignorant comment of the day goes to:

If you want to continue to ignore the coup (0 / 0)

against the legitimate Hamas government for your own ideological or political reasons, that’s fine. But it happened, and it matters.

The Heathlander

by heathlander on Sat Jun 16, 2007 at 06:37:45 PM PDT

[ Parent ]

How can the president start a coup? nt (1+ / 0-)

Recommended by:

Red, red wine Goes to my head

by Pumpkinlove on Sat Jun 16, 2007 at 06:39:14 PM PDT

Pick up your dkos lanyard at the front desk.

123. ms_xeno - 16 June 2007

In case anyone needs a little break from the usual, check out this video of the amazing Vi Redd, wailing with Linda Hopkins

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127. marisacat - 16 June 2007

oh pauvre donkeytale
Quite nutz he is,
fourtitz and all
wail wail wail:

frtitzcat | donkeytale@att.net | IP:

opera glasses and poopcorn–
the place for those dying
of terminal scorn

If only they could see themselves–
all six cremation urns
on Madame lafarge cat’s shelves

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frtitzcat | donkeytale@att.net | IP:

hey ho hey ho
its of to Pan Francisco
to sit in the parlor
of one of the greats
a big fat marisa cat
whom the canaries ate

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frtitzcat | donkeytale@att.net | IP:

madman under the water
led his 3rd party to slaughter
he could never get through his head
what the founding fathers
really said….

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frtitzcat | donkeytale@att.net | IP:

miss devore
she is such a bore
pornalizing like a chaste whore

but at the end of the day
when all is said and done
she is simply the proud maker
of a hundred bad puns

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You were banned. keep it up and I will notify your IP.

128. liberalcatnip - 16 June 2007

I’m sure he can just post that crap at MLW where he’ll have an applauding audience.

129. bayprairie - 16 June 2007

one thing is for sure. wherever he posts

its crap.

130. marisacat - 16 June 2007

new thread


131. marisacat - 16 June 2007

frtitzcat | donkeytale@att.net | IP:

you got it ‘Nip…just crossposted..
have a nice day ladies…and whats wrong with rubbing your nose in your own catshit, Marisa? You all enjoy doing it to others all the time…

Oh, and stop scaring me…turn me into my IP? WOW now thats REACTIONARY.

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132. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 June 2007

wow, that’s not even good enuff to call it doggerel.

133. ms_xeno - 16 June 2007

pornalizing ?!?!


I guess if you huff enough paint thinner, anything seems clever.


“Terminal scorn” is like “bitter.” Hey, the targets of that “terminal scorn” have earned it about a hundred times over. Just think of it as the gift that keeps on giving, all you poetical wannabees.

I’m pretty sure that Calvin Trillin’s job is safe for the nonce. Not that I’m a fan or anything…

134. Kevin Lynch - 16 June 2007

only six urns? I think you’re underestimating it a little. don’t forget I’m crazy…

…or that I used to skiptrace overdue account holders for the May Co.
(when there was such a thing) just thought I’d rattle their cages 😉


135. liberalcatnip - 16 June 2007

“cremation urns”. Hmm..that looks like a threat to me. I’d report him.

136. marisacat - 16 June 2007

He seems to have hung with the curmudgeon/begone/dead to me set too long.

I have forgotten all of donkeytale/pete richards various monikers. A diversion artist is my take.

his quite cosy home is WIngless, and it does seem to suit.

137. liberalcatnip - 16 June 2007

He posts his little MLW diary and talks to himself.

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