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Just one more conservative… flower… 25 July 2007

Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, U.S. Senate.

   so blessed.. :( 

And don’t think she is not selling herself, behind closed doors, as a conservative flower of the South.  Wife of Alpha Bubba and 20 years on the hoof in Arkansas.

From the MyDD post (the thread is a scream):

Rich Lowry at National Review Online:

I thought Hillary was excellent. She never makes a mistake. She seems ready for pretty much everything. And, while she has done her share of pandering to the Democratic base, she is the only candidate operating with an eye to the general election and to the very real possibility that she will be the next commander-in-chief.

We are so blessed.  Bow down.


Just a thread… with a pic and a sharp toss at Hilarious. 



1. Miss Devore - 25 July 2007

contempt citations readied for miers & bolten. (TPM & MSNBC have stories)

2. Miss Devore - 25 July 2007

anyone else think Samantha Bee is pregnant?

3. Revisionist - 25 July 2007

Figures. All those candadians do is come here, steal our jobs and breed.

4. Miss Devore - 25 July 2007

NIE report politicized? shocking…..(from rawstory):

“Speaking under condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, several intelligence officers asserted that the report was sloppy and lacked supporting evidence. “The NIE seems… fiddled [with],” regarding Hezbollah, one high-ranking CIA official said. “Whether it is or isn’t is not really the point. The point is that nobody is ready to believe it.”

“As regards to the Hezbollah ‘threat,'” the official added, “they just threw that in. “Nobody in CIA talks to Hezbollah, and they’re living off their assessments from back in the 80s, which they really never got right anyway.”

5. the blogroller - 25 July 2007

The Ghost of Frank Zappa gets “zapped” by the “brain police” and offers his opinions of everyone’s favorite Kos Kop Elise’s posterior:

so you claim (0+ / 4-)

Trollrated by:
ablington, Scout Finch, vcmvo2, brklyngrl

I’m still certain that it is full of cellulite and quite unattractive in the traditional sense.

Barbara Jordan = the anti Pelosi

by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:04:24 PM PDT

6. BooHooHooMan - 25 July 2007

Miss d, it must be like the CIA has a room where all the overseas station chiefs fill out standardized data sheets for the NIE…

Whatya get for # 7? How about #19? and so forth…

Thus, al Qaeda is the greatest internal threat in Bolivia, Chad, Iceland and Greenland, second only to North Korea

7. JJB - 25 July 2007

Remember how we had to get rid of that horrible Islamist regime that had brought more that a modicum of peace and stability to large portions of Somalia?

Somalia: 10,000 Flee Fighting in Capital

Published: July 24, 2007

About 10,000 people fled Mogadishu last week alone, and the exodus continues, the United Nations said. Since Ethiopian forces drove out an Islamist government in December, the city has been plagued by roadside bombs, attacks on government installations, assassination attempts and gun battles that often catch civilians in the cross-fire. About a fifth of the city’s two million residents fled in the spring. “It is really a horrible place to be,” said one resident, Said Dahir Haji Igal. “I have no option but to flee for the safety of my children.”

Yet more proof that our Global War On Terror is actually a war of terror for the unfortunate people condemned to live in the countries we decide to invade and/or sic our proxies on.

BTW, that’s the entire “story,” really more of a blurb, and it’s buried deep in the recesses of the NY Times‘s world section.

8. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 July 2007

‘Nobody in the CIA talks to Hezbollah’

Hezbollah needs a dog …. all the scare stories we are told are bs, imo. Really, people should just do what the people of the Soviet Union did, realize they are being fed constant propaganda, ignore it and go on with their lives. The problem here is that people still believe the propaganda.


That’s a riot, a diary with only 8 recs getting pushed by the invisible hand to the rec list!! The worst example of that was a diary that could have won the ‘stupidest diary of the month’ award lifted up to the rec list with about 14 recs. It was written by one of the boobsie twins. A commenter who objected was relegated to the secret email target list, well that is a guess, but it was pretty obvious she was not welcome at dk – ‘if you don’t like here’ blah, blah.

125 – Sabrina Ballerina
Thank you for your kinds words. There are advocacy groups who are trying to help these people, but they just get overshadowed by junk news or the fact that nobody is willing to mention them on the news. You also have individuals like doing things that would have made the news in not-so-distant past, but now is just a blurb. People like Jay Johnson-Castro who did several solo marches and we are talking about long marches that consisted of over hundred’s of miles. Earlier this year, he was going to do a march from San Diego to Brownsville, TX to protest the border wall, but that is when Congress fooled people into think the wall was not going to be built.

It’s so frightening XP, the existence of these prisons. I just read the ‘Prison Town’ site, posted by IP in the last thread and I wonder how it all happened so fast .

A few years ago people were posting about ‘secret detention camps’ and suspicious trains being built in the US. I used to read them, but doubted it was true. Because no ‘mainstream’ media outlet was saying anything about them.

I do remember the story of the little Canadian boy and Catnip did do a great job on that story .. but you’re right, the media no longer covers such stories. If they had that family would have been out of there very fast.

The most awful part of this is the profit that is involved. As if we could not make money doing something positive, like providing schools, homes and jobs for the same people.

Anyway, thanks for the story, and the photos on your blog …. I will tell as many people as I can about it. Also, have you ever thought of submitting your articles to publications like the Nation, eg? Or to newspapers around the country who are often looking for material. Eg, our local papers ‘The Southampton Press’ might print a story like this … plus you get paid if they accept it. The public needs to know where their tax dollars are going.

#127 – liberalcatnip
I was meaning to thank you for blogging about Hutto and that little boy. You and Annamarie were a great source of information. I couldn’t spend as much time as I wanted too because it was happening the same week my sister was getting married. So I had to sneak a post or two early in the morning before people woke up.

I am really appalled by the fact that Kos, a son born here to immigrant parents, refuses to address this issue. When people talk about anchor babies, earth-to-Kos, they are talking about you pendejo. I understand that he may not want to talk about immigration 24/7, but come on, you would think when you have people like Dodds and other xenophobes who also happen to be Democrats demanding that all immigrants and every anchor baby be deported, he would take issue because the natavists can easily call him an anchor baby.

9. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 July 2007

Ooops, the last two paragraphs are from XP’s post in the previous thread … meant to blockquote them …

Re Kos being from immigrant parents, I don’t think he has any real interest in anyone who has not ‘made it’. He seems to only use his immigrant heritage when it might benefit him, eg, when pretending to be a ‘liberal’. I have never seen Kos write about any issue that involves human compassion. I have a feeling he actually despises people who do as ‘wimps’. when in fact, it is he who is the wimp. I’ve seen him on tv, I squirmed and thought for the umpteenth time ‘why can the left not find someone who doesn’t come across as a nerdy, little wimp on tv’. But maybe that’s the idea.

Yeah, Catnip does some incredible writing on these human rights issues … her stuff on torture also … Catnip, why don’t you too submit some of your articles to small, local newspapers across the country? There are thousands of them always looking for material. If they accept and get to know you, it’s a way to make some money also. In fact most people here are good enough writers, and on material that is not covered by the media, to branch out from the blogs and into the regular press, especially local papers … a lot of people are getting their letters accepted more now … so, who knows …

10. Revisionist - 25 July 2007

Kathy Griffin had a good bit in her show last night. She was being honored as an Irish American. She called her mom and asked about her grandparents coming over in steerage. Yes, thats true her mom replied proud as can be. They also had 6 kids and she was pregnant. Kathy then asked “Hey mom, why is it you and Bill O’reilly hate mexicans again?” Kathys irish catholic grandparents had 16 children total.

11. Miss Devore - 25 July 2007

Sabrina–one of the changes made to dk was that you could reveal which diaries you rec’d. or not. since I am not a user, I don’t know if there is a correlation between number of recs and number of displayed recs.

but certainly, a system where you can’t see who’s gaming the system is hopeless.

12. Revisionist - 25 July 2007

BTW… Hillary Clinton was at the same awards ceremony – she’s irish you know. Even if you arent a Kathy fan catch the episode just for the bit of kathy trying to get a pic with clinton.

13. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 July 2007

Lol, Bhhm, I bet you’re right … everything is about forms … but they get to dress up in raincoats and wear dark glasses while filling out the forms. And maybe, like Porter Goss et al, they can hire a few prostitutes and send us, taxpayers, the bill ….

JJB, all we do is bring misery wherever we go …. that war is not on any terrorist groups it is on the people who own natural resources we want. Making them weak, makes it easier for whatever dictator we install to auction off their national resources to criminal, global Corporations ….

I have not a single candidate talk about our disastrous, decades long Foreign policy, other than Ron Paul (he’s been talking about it for a long time) and Gravel to an extent. I mean about totally changing it.

14. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 July 2007

Miss D, not sure what you mean about the changes re rec’ing a diary. I haven’t noticed anything different since a year ago. Eg, if you rec a diary, your name goes into the little box. I didn’t know there was an option to hide your rec somehow. Besides, the adm. would know who rec’d and they are the ones people would want to hide from. Lol.

15. Miss Devore - 25 July 2007

well-this is what I found from my user page:

Website: http://eondigest.wordpress.com/
Email: youcan@bitemyass.com

I’ve been banned!
You have not allowed others to see what diaries you have recommended. If you would like to, you can do so on your display preferences. “

16. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 July 2007

That link goes to wordpress Miss D. Where have you banned from for not allowing others to see what diaries you have rec’d? Not sure I understand. Maybe there is an option on the personal page at DK, hadn’t noticed if so. Whose email is that btw?

Sorry, I’m being dense I know …. maybe in need of more coffee ….

17. MIss Devore - 25 July 2007

i was just showing what turns up on my user page at dk–I guess pasting it was confusing without the format.

I can’t see how it works because I don’t have comment priveleges or the ability to see who recs diaires. so I don’t know if the rec #s are associated with names, or if they indicated anon recs.

18. cad - 25 July 2007

i always love how kos admits he never understood the concept of “community” — until he bought a big home in oakland and deigned to speak to his neighbors. who clearly are not losers.

19. JJB - 25 July 2007


The only two prominent political figures to publicly offer a genuine alternative to the Permanent War Machine foreign policy of the post-WWII era were former cabinet secretary and Vice-President Henry Wallace in 1948 and Senator George McGovern in 1972. Both were villified as hopelessly naive and foolish, and the former smeared as a Communist sympathizer/dupe. It’s true that Wallace may have been blind to the true nature of Stalin’s regime (he himself would say this was the case in the early 1950s), but he was just about the only person of any stature to point out that we were aligning ourselves with gangsters and right-wing thugs in Italy and Greece in our supposed democracy building in those two countries, and had this to say about the Truman Doctrine: “Today, in blind fear of communism, we are turning aside from the United Nations. We are approaching a century of fear.” That isn’t the only Wallace quote that looks far more perspicacious than what Truman, Acheson, Eisenhower, Dulles, Lippman, Krock, the Alsops, et al. were saying back then. Look at this statement: “The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information.” FOX News and wingnut talk radio are simply present-day incarnations of the Hearst and Luce empires that Wallace had to deal with, after all.

20. marisacat - 25 July 2007

From Ambinder in the Atlantic blogs…

hmmm three guesses whose camp did this:

Obama Compared To Dukakis; Willie Horton Makes An Appearance

25 Jul 2007 07:06 am

With the headline “Democrats Play Dirty In Charleston,” the Palmetto Scoop blog published what it said was a flier found affixed to fence posts near the Citadel, the location of Monday night’s Democratic debate.

The pamphlet, suggestive of an appeal to racial prejudice, visually links Barack Obama to Michael Dukakis and to Willie Horton, the convicted rapist whose furlough in Massachusetts became a controversial television ad during the 1988 presidential race, and it goes on to accuse Obama of favoring early release for sex offenders.

The charge leveled at Obama lacks evidence and the citation appears to distort a 1999 state senate vote on prisoner sentencing. The legislation expanded “good times credits” for convicts.)

They have a pic of the flyer..

21. marisacat - 25 July 2007

ooops forgot the link. SORRY!

22. marisacat - 25 July 2007

Conyers should retire. So should many of them.

He’s No Martin Luther King

The Sad Decline of John Conyers


What do Rep. John Conyers (D, Michigan), chair of the House Committee on the Judiciary, and President George W. Bush have in common?

They both think they can dis Cindy Sheehan and count on gossip columnists like the Washington Post’s Dana Milbank to trivialize an historic moment.

I’ll give this to President Bush. He makes no pretence when he disses. He would not meet with Sheehan to define for her the “noble cause” for which her son Casey died or tell her why he had said it was “worth it.”

Conyers, on the other hand, was dripping with pretence as he met with Sheehan, Rev. Lennox Yearwood, and me yesterday in his office in the Rayburn building.

I have seldom been so disappointed with someone I had previously held in high esteem. And before leaving, I told him so.

Throwing salt in our wounds, he had us, and some fifty others in his anteroom arrested and taken out of action as the Capitol Police “processed” us for the next six hours.

As we began our discussion with Conyers, it was as though he thought we were “born yesterday,” as Harry Truman would put it. With feigned enthusiasm he began, Let’s hold a Town Hall meeting in Detroit so we can talk about impeachment. Get out my schedule; let’s see, we need to hear from everyone about this.

Been there, done that, I reminded the congressman. On May 29, 2007 Col. Ann Wright and I were among those who flew to Detroit for a highly advertised Town Hall meeting on impeachment, because we were assured that John Conyers would be there. [snip]

You guessed it, he was a no show.

Doddery old fool. And worse, like Obey and others, they insult the electorate. They forget – and their greasy old brains are fixated on all the power soon to come.


23. lucid - 25 July 2007


In some random hidden comments thread on I diary I can’t be bothered to read:

I wonder if by “girls” he means Marisacat’s (9+ / 0-)
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I have not been over to that vile pit of lies and insults in a while, but I am sure they are following this diary.

Ironic, since most of them get insulted at misogyny.

In order to find his equal an Irishman is forced to talk to God.

by Delaware Dem on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 08:48:25 PM EDT

To which Elise responds:

eh- they get insulted when THEY aren’t being (9+ / 0-)
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the misogynists…

I touched the Universe — And back it slid — and I alone — A Speck upon a Ball — Went out upon Circumference — Beyond the Dip of Bell —

by Elise on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 08:49:44 PM EDT

Hey Jason, I seem to recall that you commented last week. Yes, apparently you haven’t be here in ‘a while’.

24. marisacat - 25 July 2007

Poor DD.

He has never managed to insult me. None f them has.

I realise that is too complicated for them to grasp.

25. Revisionist - 25 July 2007

Part of Brown’s new “security plan”

BBC Arabic channel

As part of Britain’s so-called ‘soft power’ diplomacy, the PM confirmed funding for a BBC Arabic channel, and for an editorially independent Farsi-language station “for the people of Iran”. Funding for the BBC World’s Service comes from a grant from the Foreign and Commonweath Office. As with many of Mr Brown’s budget announcements, this is not strictly speaking new; the BBC announced two years ago it planned to launch the Arabic station in 2007, at the expense of some other World Service language output.

I am sure that will go over well. All I have seen for the past few years is a very anti-BBC streak in Britons online. They are sick of supporting it.

26. JJB - 25 July 2007

Just found this rather interesting bit that proves Chris Matthews does have some impressive cranial candlepower lurking behind that clownish exterior (he’s not an idiot, but he plays one on TV). Here’s Tweety Blueballs slicing and dicing actor Sam Waterston’s promotion of Unity ’08:

SW: [T]he Iraq situation that we are in now is a direct outgrowth of this kind of winner take all head to head take no prisoners politics that we’ve been having and that if there had been more attention to consensus before we went in we might not be in this pickle now.

TBballs: But didn’t we have a lot, we had Hillary and John Kerry and Joe Biden and John Edwards all voted to authorize the war, all these Democrats trooped over across the aisle and backed a Republican president when he told us we had to go to war with a country that hadn’t attacked us. If the system is broken, isn’t it broken because there’s too much consensus?

On the plus side, it appears Fred Thompson is officially out as New York County District Attorney, and Waterston will be replacing him on “L&O.”

Credit to Eschaton and MYDD for that material.

Also, more from Henry Wallace. Here’s his 1947 speech condemning the Truman Doctrine, with some pertinent quotes:

President Truman, in the name of democracy and humanitarianism, proposed a military lend-lease program. He proposed a loan of $400,000,000 to Greece and Turkey as a down payment on an unlimited expenditure aimed at opposing Communist expansion. He proposed, in effect, that America police Russia’s every border. There is no regime too reactionary for us provided it stands in Russia’s expansionist path. There is no country too remote to serve as the scene of a contest which may widen until it becomes a world war.

President Truman calls for action to combat a crisis. What is this crisis that necessitates Truman going to Capitol Hill as though a Pearl Harbor has suddenly hit us? How many more of these Pearl Harbors will there be?. . . One year ago at Fulton, Mo., Winston Churchill called for a diplomatic offensive against Soviet Russia. By sanctioning that speech, Truman committed us to a policy of combating Russia with British sources. That policy proved to be so bankrupt that Britain can no longer maintain it. Now President Truman proposes we take over Britain’s hopeless task. Today Americans are asked to support the Governments of Greece and Turkey. Tomorrow we shall be asked to support the Governments of China and Argentina.

I say that this policy is utterly futile. No people can be bought. America cannot afford to spend billions and billions of dollars for unproductive purposes. The world is hungry and insecure, and the peoples of all lands demand change. President Truman cannot prevent change in the world any more than he can prevent the tide from coming in or the sun from setting. But once America stands for opposition to change, we are lost. America will become the most-hated nation in the world.

Russia may be poor and unprepared for war, but she knows very well how to reply to Truman’s declaration of economic and financial pressure. All over the world Russia and her ally, poverty, will increase the pressure against us. Who among us is ready to predict that in this struggle American dollars will outlast the grievances that lead to communism? I certainly don’t want to see communism spread. I predict that Truman’s policy will spread communism in Europe and Asia. You can’t fight something with nothing. When Truman offers unconditional aid to King George of Greece, he is acting as the best salesman communism ever had.. . . When President Truman proclaims the world-wide conflict between East and West, he is telling the Soviet leaders that we are preparing for eventual war. They will reply by measures to strengthen their position in the event of war. Then the task of keeping the world at peace will pass beyond the power of the common people everywhere who want peace. Certainly it will not be freedom that will be victorious in this struggle. Psychological and spiritual preparation for war will follow financial preparation; civil liberties will be restricted; standards of living will be forced downward; families will be divided against each other; none of the values that we hold worth fighting for will be secure….

You could deliver that speech today, and you’d hardly have to change a thing.

27. marisacat - 25 July 2007

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:



28. aemd - 25 July 2007

IOZ on Alberto is a great read.

“…Senantors Specter and Leahy, honor amputees who can’t even enforce their own subpoenas or contempt citations, let alone, ye gods, end a numbingly disastrous, criminal war. Bested by a twit with a faulty memory. What a day for the Greatest Deliberative Body Evar Assembled.”


29. lucid - 25 July 2007

JJB – that’s a great speech… very foreboding and far too true. That we had such leaders today.

30. marisacat - 25 July 2007

“Werther” on how to read an NIE….

[T]he title of the NIE itself will be of interest to future generations of historians. It refers, not to terrorist threats to the United States, but to “the US Homeland.” The word “homeland,” which resonates sinisterly like das Vaterland in German or rodina in Russian, was virtually unused before 9/11, and despite its relentless repetition by the Bush administration (to include the name of a cabinet agency), it has thus far refused to lodge itself in colloquial American English. One can hardly imagine an American businessman at an airport bar in Tegucigalpa telling a compatriot, “I’m taking the 9:17 flight to the homeland.”

Indeed, while Vaterland or rodina have non-ideological colloquial roots and were expropriated by Hitler and Stalin, “homeland” is a purely ideological construct of Bush administration. The page-and-a-half “Key Judgments” section uses the word “homeland” nine times. [snip]

Yes.. as they die in the modern version of trench warfare they don’t cry to the heavens

O Glorious Moment! I die for the Homeland!”

No, they still cry for mother.

31. lucid - 25 July 2007

Apparently Elise has discovered another part of her body about which to obsess:

Yawn. (14+ / 0-)
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You lost your right to adult conversation when you made fun of elise’s ass.

I’m crumbelievable.

by clonecone on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 08:59:52 PM EDT


Which, if I may say so… (12+ / 0-)
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is pretty damn hot.

I touched the Universe — And back it slid — and I alone — A Speck upon a Ball — Went out upon Circumference — Beyond the Dip of Bell —

by Elise on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 09:02:41 PM EDT

Kind of sounds like a frat boy, eh? Obsessed by tits and ass! I really do think the speculation that she’s a man may be dead on.

32. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 July 2007

Miss D, that’s strange that you get that message in your personal profile. Was that just an excuse for banning, and what’s with the email?

I see nothing that confirms it though …. if I rec a diary, my name appears and I see no way to avoid that …. could be missing something. But I see what your question implied. If this were possible they could game the system by not being id’d however, it still looked really suspicious to see that diary on the rec. list with only 8 recs. It would be better to have names, even they are biased imo. Unless they are voting multiple times and want to hide that. Someone should ask Peeder ….

Thanks for that, aemd – IOZ is correct, pulling no punches about the spectacle of watching the US Congress playing the fool to a sneering, dim-witted criminal who is clearly not intimated by them.

Now they waste time on the contempt process which Bush has already told them he will render useless, and he can.

Big deal, re that ABC news release. It was just a Committee vote, now it has to go to the entire House. More waste of time. Then we watch the WH give the people the finger again.

THEN WHAT! Will that be enough? No, then they will ‘explore’ Inherent Contempt’ but not with the jail option for Harriet and Bolten, I bet. That should take another few months. And, it does not eliminate the courts from the process. They can appeal to the courts re (lmao at the irony) habeas corpus. Would love to see them told that a US Citizen never had a right to Habeas Corpus, as Gonzo said.

Can Bush pardon them if they are thrown in jail Contress? Supposedly not if they are not held criminally, but civilly. But this Congress is so stupid and Bush et al so aarrogant, who knows?

The only way is Impeachment, but more and more I’m thinking, ‘not with this Congress’

33. marisacat - 25 July 2007

LOL ABC “breaking news”

The Democrats are doing the exact same thing Bush is doing, running the clock.

And they say Washington can’t “work together”.

All you can do is laugh.

34. BooHooHooMan - 25 July 2007

gurgling on the bong
If Elise is a pimple on the ass of the Universe, does that make her ass an ass on the pimple of the ass of the Universe???
Whuh_oh-hoa -hoa….

35. BooHooHooMan - 25 July 2007

just kidding-about the bong of course.

36. marisacat - 25 July 2007

LOL Here is a comment from the IOZ post that aemd links to above:

If they want to practice, why not impeach Gonzales? While reasonable people can disagree about the high crimes and misdemeanors of Bill Clinton, lying under oath to Congress, violating the constitution, violating international laws and so on sure fit the founder’s conception of impeachment.

Gonzalez is the Ricardo to Bush’s Queen of Scots, and

it’s time for the posse of equivalent nobility to go in and knife the fucker.

I’m not sure if Arlen Spector is up to the Darnley role, but he could definitely be Moray.

Yup, yup: Knife the fucker. Sounds about right to me.

37. ms_xeno - 25 July 2007

I’m worried most about the cellulite in their heads. It’s tough to imagine how a better case could be made for the revocation of women’s right to vote than Elise G. Harding & the Energetic Squad. When does she announce that Jimmy Kimmel is dumping Sarah Silverman for her following her special political segment on The Man Show ? I can’t wait.

38. supervixen - 25 July 2007

Big fun over there, with Ghost of FZ:

I don’t

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know that I’ve ever witnesses as much sexism in a single diary as what is pouring from you. Such a sexist pig.

by taylormattd on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:27:07 PM PDT

Oh taylormattd, have you quite forgotten the “bitchcuntwhore” diary by Delaware Dim?

The rest of the thread is hilarious too. Eternal Hope says about me: “she would ask people about their private sexual crushes just because they disagreed with her.”

LOL, they have such remarkably twisted little brains.

39. D. Throat - 25 July 2007

Might have known… Adam B’s “case” is all hot air…. he was torn to shreads at Emsocks. All lies about “freedom of speech”… and he all but acknowledges that Kos does not want it known where the money is coming from…. nutin but a gang of Sleazy White Boyz.

40. JJB - 25 July 2007

lucid, no. 29,

Isn’t it, though? And Gore Vidal is the only person who ever cites him today. The powers that be in the Democratic party and the MSM conspired to make him look like a half-crazed simpleton. The fact that he was an extremely successful businessman who got rich twice in his life by developing a high-yield corn seed and a breed of poultry that became the predominant egg-laying chicken on the planet counted for nothing. OTOH, we have Truman, bankrupt haberdasher, minor cog in a slimy political machine, with nothing more than a high-school diploma to his name, setting (however unwittingly) a long-term course of death, destruction, and political oppression for countless millions of people.

41. supervixen - 25 July 2007

lucid – re: Elise being a man: no, I think she’s a woman whose self-image is based entirely on what men think of her body and her “sexiness”. Because of that, her point-of-view is usually identical to that of the men she’s trying to impress. The sad fact is that there are millions of women like that in the world. She professes to be a “feminist” but she’s just another confused man-chasing bimbo.

42. D. Throat - 25 July 2007

Boy they are really pumping this Bill O shit for all its worth… kinda like the Rosie O’Donnell vs Donald Trump brouhaha that was staged to give BOTH ratings boosts.

Bill O and Kos must be slapping each other on the back … more hits… higher ratings… it’s all good.

43. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 July 2007

Lucid, I think people got to make up their own minds about that – lol! Poor woman, really I feel sorry for her …. no woman should feel the need to keep begging ‘please believe me, I AM hot’ – never saw anything like it before on a political forum, but then, this is DK and women are not exactly a valued part of society there.

Hey, Luscious Vagina was here just a week ago, or was it less? Poor guy, I think he’s a bit simple really. Not only was he here, he wrote a diary based on a comment I made and then deleted the diary (before I saw it) but did not include the most important question, which would have made my point perfectly.

Anyway, waving at DD …. stop peeking in at the ‘girls’ here … didn’t he promise he was going to go ‘cold turkey’?


JJB, thanks for the info on Henry Wallace and McGovern…. I always enjoy reading your posts, I learn so much from them … it seems hopeless to think we could ever change anything when it is so ingrained in the culture now. That if you promote alternative policies to war and destruction, you are a ‘wimp and a traitor’!

The only two prominent political figures to publicly offer a genuine alternative to the Permanent War Machine foreign policy of the post-WWII era were former cabinet secretary and Vice-President Henry Wallace in 1948 and Senator George McGovern in 1972.

We need an avalanche of people doing it, it’s always just a few which makes them easy to marginalize ….

Aemd you were right, that IOZ piece on Gonzoles is defenitely worth reading ….

44. Miss Devore - 25 July 2007

32-SB-I wrote the other stuff in my profile (banned users can still access their profile)

I heard the House vote on the contempt citations will be scheduled aafter the august recess.

45. JJB - 25 July 2007


[N]o woman should feel the need to keep begging ‘please believe me, I AM hot’ – never saw anything like it before on a political forum, but then, this is DK and women are not exactly a valued part of society there.

Actually, that’s pretty mild compared to the things Emsock used to post in her early days on DK. At one point, someone asked if something or other was “hot,” and Emsock replied “I had to change my panties!” The question is, is this behavior caused by low self-esteem, or a desire to manipulate people by appealing to the lowest common denominator?

46. the blogroller - 25 July 2007

A little more of the kos kop elise and her stance regarding the objectification of women:

in a discussion of the Transformers movie:

Me too… (2+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
taylormattd, shayera

that super hot air force dude…

by Elise on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 10:02:58 PM PDT

For anyone who wants to drool (1+ / 0-)

Recommended by:

Here’s a link…

This guy is SO hot…omg omg omg.

by Elise on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 10:07:23 PM PDT

Oh wait, that was her objectifying a man, which isn’t in the least bit hypocritical right? And not even the least bit out of character for her.

47. Revisionist - 25 July 2007

#42 –

I nearly posted about that. I guess Kos is Rosie.

The list of advertisers and the boycott is killing me. Like O’Reilly has not been thru any of this before. He did months of Rosie bashing. He has smeared everyone on left. Insulted gays, blacks and hispanics. But Daily Kos is gonna take him DOWN.

Every already either loves O’reilly or thinks he is an asshole. Most dont even need details to choose a side. He has a core group and wont go away until he retires. My god, Larry King probably has an oxygen tank under the desk. CNN will keep him on till he is in the ground.

Truth be told, I thought Bill actually creamed the Clinton guy last night. Loved when he read the comments about her calling her a slag and george bush with tits.

Guess it keeps the Kossacks from looking into what companies John Edwards is invested in. and who are in turn funding him.

48. lucid - 25 July 2007

You’re probably right SV. It’s just that it almost seems so perfect a caricature of the ‘little sister’ that it makes one wonder.

btw – that whole thread is pretty vicious toward you. I can’t fathom the depths of their grudge holding.

SB – I think they all have severe self-esteem issues & overcompensate with their bulbous egos.

49. D. Throat - 25 July 2007

They are also conveniently forgetting that they forced over 30 of Ann Couter’s sponsors to drop her…. and you didn’t hear her whining about it endlessly

50. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 July 2007

Boohoohooman, put down that bong – weed the damn FAQs! Oops, should say ‘read’! Anyhooo, please read the words of God here and either abide by the ‘rulezzzz’ or (ready for this, all together now) ‘don’t let the bong hit you on the way out’!

Rule #1,045,890, 876:

This is a Liberal Blog. It is NOT a Conservative Blog. It is for Liberals and Progressives. We are a Big Tent Boutique, Democrats and Consservatives are welcome to spend money in our boutique, but this blog is about electing Liberals. What that means is that if you are drinking or smoking while commenting you MUST SHARE! Get that? Share! Violators of this rule will be banned! If you are too stupid, too dense and too selfish to abide by this rule, we suggest this might not be the blog for you. Try LGF, RS or DK – where ‘sharing’ is a bad word!

Okay, Bhhm – pass the bong … (I keed if anyone is spying on us) Lol!

51. ms_xeno - 25 July 2007

…I can’t fathom the depths of their grudge holding…

I can. But remember, I got booted off the sainted Ms. Boards back when. A few months before they finally went under for good. Elise has Highlander Syndrome. There Can Be Only One ™. Sometimes also known as Queen Bee Syndrome. She wants to be the only girl on the bus, or at least rule over all the other girls.

52. Revisionist - 25 July 2007

There are reports that the Pakistan military has carried out limited airstrikes at nine locations in north Waziristan.

The attacks by helicopter gunships were carried out on the basis of specific information provided by the United States that these areas houses terrorist training camps.

Some unconfirmed reports say that this could perhaps been some limited US participation as well.

53. marisacat - 25 July 2007

LOL It’s the WashTimes.. but still:

Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, an architect of the Democratic campaign that regained control of the House last year, says his party will not attempt comprehensive immigration reform until at least the second term of a prospective Democratic president.

The congressman’s statement was reported by a Hispanic activist and confirmed by Mr. Emanuel. “Congressman Rahm Emanuel said to me two weeks ago, there is no way this legislation is happening in the Democratic House, in the Democratic Senate, in the Democratic presidency, in the first term,” Juan Salgado, board chairman of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, told the National Council of La Raza (NCLR) at its annual convention last weekend.

Through a spokesman, Mr. Emanuel, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, blamed Republicans for botching this year’s debate and said that makes it tougher for Democrats to return to the issue. [snip]

We’re worms! Vote for Us!

54. lucid - 25 July 2007

ugh… further down the thread blogroller quotes:

There were several actually… (2+ / 0-)
Recommended by:shayera, DMiller
he wasn’t the only drool-worthy one…but he’s certainly my favorite.

And now I’ll shush up because if I say anymore it will be too NC-17 for this popcicle stand…

I touched the Universe — And back it slid — and I alone — A Speck upon a Ball — Went out upon Circumference — Beyond the Dip of Bell —

by Elise on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:13:33 AM EDT

No Elise. We really don’t want to hear your sexual fantasies on a political blog.

55. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 July 2007

JJB, I think it probably is using people who have low self-esteem – you could not use those who have a good self-image to appeal to the lowest common denominator, as they defintely do.

The O’Reilly thing is more of that. Appealing to the lowest common demoninator. They are going to “Bring Down O’Reilly’? How about bringing down this criminal administration? What a waste of valuable energy. O’Reilly!

I ask again, what HAVE they accomplished? What great victories can they point to? Zero, except – Kos is rich! If that was anyone’s goal, they should be happy.

btw – that whole thread is pretty vicious toward you. I can’t fathom the depths of their grudge holding.

Cowards. Most decent blogs will not permit talk about a user who has been banned because of the unfairness of them being unable to respond. They are extremely jealous of SV …. she is clearly the kind of woman they would like to be, (or have lol). Smart, fearless, happy with her life, a beautiful family and she could care less about their petty little blog. She was RIGHT about DARKSYDE and about MissLaura and DHinMi et al, she had a great bullshit detector and that scared the poseurs for obvious reasons, and people respect her …

They have a lot of reason to keep trying to smear her – everyone knows why they wanted her gone and everyone laughs at what they tried to replace her with. What a compliment it is to her that she is so memorable … she certainly made an impact … and they sit around like nasty, little old crones gnashing their teeth because she won. She is the victor. They left a record of their viciousness and of her fearlessness. They can’t erase it so they have to keep trying to justify it.

Creepy people (and they are very creepy) like elise and clonecone, paintykat, taylormattd, et al imo, act like people who are very unhappy in their own lives and jealous of those they perceive to be superior to them.

SV has respect, in her personal life and online. Despite all their efforts, she shines, they look mean and petty when they smear her without having the courage to face her. She has a blog after all. Too cowardly , she would wipe the floor with them … it would be a sad spectacle to watch when they were without the backing of the ‘administration’ and without their ‘troll buttons’ But if they had any decency they would either stop smearing someone who is not there to respond, or go to her blog and have the guts to say what they want to say to her face!!

But they are cowards and they will never, ever do what she had the guts to do, face them on their own astro-turf, and tell them the truth. They’re only capable of sitting safely in their basements, and sniping from a very safe distance. And these are the people who are supposed to be saving this country!! Lol! I’ll take SV anytime …..

56. bayprairie - 25 July 2007

Boy they are really pumping this Bill O shit for all its worth… kinda like the Rosie O’Donnell vs Donald Trump brouhaha that was staged to give BOTH ratings boosts.

dkos is the people magazine of blogworld.

problem: you need to get dinner on the table for your party pronto.

solution: easy democratic recipes that only take 30 minutes!

57. JJB - 25 July 2007


I ask again, what HAVE they accomplished? What great victories can they point to? Zero, except – Kos is rich!

Yes, that is the sum total of their achievements. I won’t even credit them with moving the Dem party even further starboard, that would have happened had Big Orange Slop never come into being.

58. Miss Devore - 25 July 2007

Feinstein endorses Clinton:


59. marisacat - 25 July 2007

LOL Early regret late regret, it is all fake.

Specter to probe Supreme Court decisions

By: Carrie Budoff

Jul 25, 2007 06:07 AM EST

Before voting to confirm Roberts and Alito, Specter cited their statements on precedent as reason enough to put them on the high court.

Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) plans to review the Senate testimony of U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel A. Alito to determine if their reversal of several long-standing opinions conflicts with promises they made to senators to win confirmation.

Specter, who championed their confirmation, said Tuesday he will personally re-examine the testimony to see if their actions in court match what they told the Senate.

“There are things he has said, and I want to see how well he has complied with it,” Specter said, singling out Roberts.

The Specter inquiry poses a potential political problem for the GOP and future nominees because Democrats are increasingly complaining that the Supreme Court moved quicker and more dramatically than advertised to overturn or chip away at prior decisions. [snip]

Can the minuets get more cramped?

“It is not often in the law that so few have so quickly changed so much,” Breyer said, reading his dissent from the bench to a 5-4 ruling that overturned school desegregation policies in two cities.

Roberts has defended his rulings as applications of “existing precedent.”

Specter, however, said Breyer’s statement was “an especially forceful criticism of the Roberts court.”

“I only noticed it in a couple of cases,” Specter said of the court overturning or undermining precedents. But Breyer, in their Aspen conversation, said “there were eight.”

Time for the senators to display judicious review… and conclude their votes to confirm were right. Anything different and I will pass out from shock.

60. outofwater - 25 July 2007

Of all the idiotic pandering to ever come from Specter, and there is quite a bit, this is the bottom of the barrel. Who does he think he’s fooling?

61. lucid - 25 July 2007

What is that line about ‘the appearance of due diligence’… Seems apt in the case of the spectre.

62. BooHooHooMan - 25 July 2007

Jeezus SB I’m not gonna get all Charlton Heston “outta my cold dead hands” over the figmentary bong ..Changing over from the one hitter to the album sized diameter party-bowl….passing to SB ( —O2 at the ready) : {D]

LOL Anyways

I was LMAO reading Adam B ‘s huff and puff against the guy who filed the FEC complaint. What bluff and bluster.
It’s not the FEC claim per se, (though they care)- It’s the fact that questions are being asked that can lead to attention and negative publicity that their spineless patrons in the Party can’t handle. Adam reminds me of the irate suburbanite who – night after night – falls for stomping out flaming bags of poo on his doorstep but of course won’t tell anyone about it for being seen as the ass. The truth is, they can’t handle ANY thoroughgoing examination. The negative press has really rattled their cage, like the Jet Blue deal. What corporation, though, should be supporting Limbaugh, Markos or any other personal politically involved fiefdom? Adam B is nuts, more political hobbyist than seasoned professional. Yeh the guys a real A- list attorney….. in a chatroom. The RW is already on to their bullshit and will hang said hypocritical bullshit around Dem candidates necks.

Its so funny that DK is positioned as the “liberal” branch that Hillary and the others might consider going out on a limb for – all prior to sawing it off in a swing further right before the general election.Enjoy it while it lasts. Too bad we’re now not even halfway through with the Carnage in Iraq. Way to push em back on their heels.
Yay, Nancy Pelosi!

The Dems have done nothing. If someone said to my face that the blahgs have made a difference, I’d spit in theirs.

63. marisacat - 25 July 2007


It’s the fact that questions are being asked that can lead to attention and negative publicity that their spineless patrons in the Party can’t handle. — BHHM

64. BooHooHooMan - 25 July 2007

Speaking of Pipes and Smoking…

Cracks in the edifice
by clammyc
Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 12:42:21 PM PDT

Many times over the past few years, we have been giddy and excited about the prospect of finally seeing the Bush administration and its enablers get their come-uppance, only to ultimately be disappointed for one reason or another. Plamegate, Fitzmas, 2004 elections, unsubstantiated rumors of Rove’s indictment, Libby’s commutation and many many others come to mind.

Yet, now, I can’t help but feel a bit different. The stone wall (pun intended) that is the Bush administration and its enablers is starting to crack in many places. And while this won’t get us out of Iraq now, fix the foreign policy “errors”, undo the damage from Katrina, the middle class or many of our basic rights – at least not as quickly as they were damaged or taken, the pendulum is starting to swing back a lot quicker than many of us thought a few short months ago.

What fuckin’ crackheads -BHHM

65. Glingle - 25 July 2007

25 Revisionist–where online have you seen brits being anti beeb?
Most of the British left understand that the alternative is SKY (owned by Murdoch) and the further degradation of the viewing process.

66. BooHooHooMan - 25 July 2007

And when clammyc says

“…Many times over the past few years, we have been giddy and excited about the prospect of finally seeing the Bush administration and its enablers get their come-uppance, only to ultimately be disappointed for one reason or another.”…..


Wake up! Smell the coffee,clammy- you ninkompoop!

67. Revisionist - 25 July 2007

#64 —

Usually in the comments section for news stories from the British papers and BEEB itself. They haven’t been against it the way we are against FOX news. They are just against the public funding. Kind of like knowing your tax dollars are producing Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader.

68. marisacat - 25 July 2007

When the day comes Kos can just re-issue “Bannings” from Jan 2005.

Sub thread of comments between DemFromCT and Furious Hal….

DfCT plumps for “civility” – Furious Hal for everything else…


69. BooHooHooMan - 25 July 2007

Cracks in the Edifice

as in the Pentagon is diggin’ in till 2009, most appropriately with appropriations

Enjoy your daydream, clammy

70. NYCee - 25 July 2007

Outside current hot topics here, but did want to follow up, for those who are interested, by posting the LATEST from an email I received from Jonathan Greenberg, one of the original activists/litigants re OPPOSITION to the:


Here is the text of his email with the events.

One event he mentions is soon… so apologies for any NYers who may have wanted to attend. It is at 6:30 tonight at Judson (wonderful liberal) Church, facing the south side of the park. It is the flick on YouTube, the 1 hour doc I linked earlier, but apparently the filmmaker has updated it and it will be shown in real life.

Here’s jonathan’s update:

Although you might have already heard about this, I just wanted to update you on the status of the park, and let you know about three Washington Square Park redesign-related events taking place during the next six days.

The Parks Dept will be presenting its revised plans for Phase 1 of the Park redesign at City Hall during a public meeting Thursday. This has to do with Community Board approval (which was rescinded a few months ago) and City Council approval. It does not impact the two environmental lawsuits that were heard together (with considerable interest and concern) by Judge Joan Madden on May 31. One lawsuit was from me and Luther Harris, represented by Arlene Boop. The other was from the ECO Group, represented by Joel Kupferman.

These lawsuits have been deemed “complicated,” by Judge Madden, who therefore has 120 days (instead of 60 days), until the end of September, to rule on them. They hinge on whether the proposed redesign “MAY SIGNIFICANTLY” alter the usage and environment of the park. Remarkably, the city had to argue that nothing about the way the park is used MIGHT change despite the radical redesign. If the judge decides in our favor, an Environmental Impact Statement, with professional impact studies (which have never been done) would likely be mandated.

The events:

1. July 25th, Wednesday. 6:30 pm: Director Matt Davis will be screening an updated version of his documentary in progress, “Squared,” at Judson Church tomorrow, at the Judson assembly room (enter on Thompson Street, just off Washington Square. It is free and open to all and there is likely to be an interesting dialog afterward.

2. Thursday, July 26th, 4-6 pm, City Hall Committee room. Parks Department is presenting their Phase one plans. Speaker Chris Quinn will open the meeting; it will be chaired by CB2’s new chair Brad Hoylman. We are told that the public will be bale t ask questions.

3. Monday, July 30th, NYU Great Room, 19 University Place, 6:30. The Wash Sq Park Task Force has a public meeting to respond to Parks Presentation.

In preparation for the two meetings about the plans, I prepared the letter below, which was published in the current Villager.

We will see what happens next…

Thank you for your interest,


71. marisacat - 25 July 2007

I noticed in some natter or other, filler in sF Gate that, in the blither of Great Works that Pelosi is promising … masses more votes on Iraq, LOL, it stated that one resolution will say:

No permanent bases should be developed.

You have to hand it to the Dems. The find their rain shoes, umbrella and rain coat by the time the storm is over.

Fucking collaborators.

72. D. Throat - 25 July 2007

Here we go…. Jerome “Conman” Armstrong posted the full article on MyDD without posting the link to The Nation… and once again trying to take credit for something the blogosphere DID NOT DO… I guess he wants everyone to link back to him…

The Boyz are trying to play all sides of the fence … positioning themselves to where the money might fall…

Anyways… I was just mentionning how the Boyz were silent on the 50 State Strategy… The Nation (not Jerome) has just posted a very interesting article online:

The single oddest thing about the fifty-state strategy is surely the adjective often attached to it: “controversial.”

Just how, exactly, could there be controversy over a national political party organizing nationally–especially after years of pissing billions into an ever-shrinking “target” slice of the country, ceding wider and wider chunks of territory and disdaining the grassroots while Republicans built a powerful army of ground troops? The DNC’s fifty-state project is relatively inexpensive, compared with the costs of the thirty-second TV ad blitzes the party has increasingly relied on to target voters in Ohio and Florida. Salaries for the state parties run to about $8 million annually, considerably less than 10 percent of the DNC’s budget and downright humble compared with what the GOP and its affiliates spend for similar party work.

In just two years, the belated catch-up effort has paid off in at least two tangible ways: It has exponentially multiplied grassroots party involvement and–in a short-term benefit not even envisioned by its architects–has helped win an impressive number of state, local and Congressional elections in majority-Republican regions. That’s not to mention the intangible benefits of fanning out 180 Democratic organizers, fundraisers and communications specialists across the map, many of them working in places like western North Carolina, where, as one local activist puts it, “a lot of Democrats think of the national party as the devil itself.” As the chair of the most overwhelmingly Republican of states, Utah’s Wayne Holland, wrote last year, “Democrats have become outsiders who do things to us, not insiders who do things for us. The fifty-state strategy is one way to turn it around.”

It is, in short, one of the brightest ideas the DNC has had in its undistinguished history. And the timing could not have been better: The organizing is providing a channel for the disgust inspired by the mounting catastrophes of the Bush years. In deep-red states like Utah, it’s ticked up the number of Democrats voting and candidates running (30 percent more in 2006). In “purple” states like North Carolina, where Democrats dominate most local and statewide elections, it’s helping to turn red counties purple and purple counties blue, uncorking a new strain of progressive populism–the kind that won Senate races in Virginia for Jim Webb, Montana for Jon Tester and Ohio for Sherrod Brown. (Well that part is bullshit)

And it might not outlive the next presidential election.

Of course it won’t last under Clinton… Rahm the “Architect” of the 2006 win (as he likes to be called)… will push Dean off the podium before Hilliary even takes office…. no one is fooled by them not going to the DLC convention fucking Rham wrote the god damn book… remember “The Plan”.

It will be a Bill C. rerun all over again… destroy the party for personal gain…. it is disgusting how they let the party wither… and Hilliary is still trying to weaken the party apparatus by creating her own shadow DNC with its own database… which she will only share for a fee…

73. D. Throat - 25 July 2007

Seems like the plot is thickening….

The real fear is that a second Clinton presidency would mean a return to the Washington-centric ways of the first–to party control by “the very people who ground down the activist base in the 1990s and have continued to hold the party’s grassroots in utter contempt,” as Markos Moulitsas of Daily Kos wrote in the Washington Post. (Blablabla gimme money) The harshest public critics of Dean’s strategy are also among Hillary Clinton’s most trusted advisers: Emanuel, Carville, Begala. As Thomas Edsall reported in The New Republic last year, many top Clintonites so loathe and mistrust Dean that their campaign is “laying the groundwork to circumvent the DNC.” There is talk of Clinton’s team keeping its own field staff with the campaign after winning the primaries, rather than shifting them under the auspices of the DNC for the general election, as has been standard practice. “The DNC is going to be peripheral” if Hillary wins the nomination, one Clinton aide said. Clinton acolyte Harold Ickes Jr. has raised millions for a private voter database, to avoid relying on the DNC’s.

But Kamarck believes the Clinton campaign, if Hillary is nominated, would make peace with Dean’s DNC for one reason: He’s transformed it from the Democrats’ perennial problem into one of their biggest assets. “What you typically see is that as soon as a Democratic nominee is chosen, they send some senior eminence down to the DNC,” Kamarck says. “The first thing this senior eminence does is complain about what a mess the party is. Because it always was. This time, the presidential candidate is going to come in and be wowed by what they see.” And that, in turn, may give Dean leverage to keep organizers in the field throughout 2008, rather than devoting the entire apparatus to the presidential campaign–also the old norm.

74. D. Throat - 25 July 2007

Assessing Howard Dean’s Fifty State Strategy and the 2006 Midterm Elections

Elaine C. Kamarck, Harvard University

Throughout the 2006 midterm elections, the press wrote about the conflict over campaign strategy between Howard Dean, Chairman of the Democratic National Committee, and his counterparts in Congress, Chuck Schumer and Rahm Emmanuel, the heads of the Senate and House campaigns, respectively. Schumer and Emmanuel, as well as other Beltway strategists, disagreed with Dean’s “fifty state strategy” to build the party across the nation, arguing that DNC funds should focus on the races targeted by the congressional parties. This essay explains, in part, why Dean’s popularity suffers in Washington – even after decisive Democratic victories – and why he continues to have support outside the Beltway. It also provides preliminary evidence that Dean’s fifty-state strategy paid off in terms of increasing the Democratic vote share beyond the bounce of a national tide favoring Democrats.

You have to sign up to download it for free.

75. Glingle - 25 July 2007

The problem with that is that the Times/Sun are owned by Murdoch , The Mail is not liberal (anti ethnic/gay/feminist) and the telegraph hates anyone who isn’t white and upper class. The Independent and Guardian are the only left leaning papers and even they get trolled.
The moaning about the licence fee is mainly an anti tax libertarian thing, not reality based or even fact checked. I’ve done a lot of casual pointing out of the sky connection whenever people moan around me and you can see little lightbulbs go off as people realise the agenda.
The licence fee pays for bbc 1,2,3,4, news24 & parliament, cbeebies & CBBC (kids programmes) and radios 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, the world service and the website. oh and all the regional radio stations. It works out at 135 ukp pa or 36p a day. And no ads in the middle of programmes.
Sky cable/satellite is about 25 ukp per month, for the smallest package, sports channels cost extra. And SKY 1-4 have ad breaks every 10 minutes.

76. marisacat - 25 July 2007

I have never figured Elaine Kamarck out.. I think at the end of the day, any day any year, she is DLC. She kept darting in and out of her office 2003 endorsing Dean, then nearly not.

Last I saw of her she was on a stage with Carville and Begala at harvard. All three made fools of themselves. Declared themselves anything but liberal and, had one peeled off their jeans (it was a forum iwth students, LOL), we would have seen “DLC” tattoo’d on their aging haunches. Which they admit to, most years. Probably not this year tho.

She’s a weird one. As is what passes for a party.

77. D. Throat - 25 July 2007

Here is a “Misinformation Troll” on MyDD:

I though the DNC “50 state” money spent in my state (NV) was effectively squandered on rural organizers who made almost no difference in either registered Democratic turnout in rural counties or in Democratic share of the independent vote in rural counties. I think that money would have been much better spent on individual campaigns or on the state coordinated campaign; we lost two congressional races and the governor’s race by <5%, or and two state senate races by <5% (either of which would have meant a democratic majority and control of both houses, and thus of redistricting in 2012). All but one of those races were lost due to a failure to win enough suburban independents, due in turn to a resource advantage down the stretch for republicans, much of which came from their national party.

So one issue is whether or not the DNC should be spending money direclty on its own staff in states or giving the money to campaigns directly.

Whereas in Elaine C. Kamarck report clearly states:

Nevada 2 increased in Democratic 25 % of vote
Nevada 3 increased in Democratic 10 % of vote

It is in the report… I have seen this same poster use this same lie repeatedly… I am just glad I now know where to find the truth.

It is these little towns and hamlets like West Hollywood that voted for Impeachment that are going to kick Hilliary’s butt along with Pelosi’s… Dk and all of the other blogs are completely out of touch with reality and what is happening on the ground… too busy whining about Bill O as though he mattered.

This is not about Dean … it is about what he has wrought and these Dem activists on the ground maybe our last chance… the Boyz are more than useless.

78. D. Throat - 25 July 2007

Oh I have to agree with you there… even this article goes way overboard in praise of DLC idiots like Webb and Tester and the lie that won’t die that Kos is a progressive.

The part that I am gleaning out of it … is that there must be rumblings in the states that see Hilliary and here gang as a detriment to the Democratic Party… which they are.

79. marisacat - 25 July 2007

Oh! I just heard that the HOuse passed the resolution agaisnt developing permanant bases, TODAY. So exciting.

Pelosi wore cream and what looked like a necklace of faceted quartz. I would say from the semi-precious counter at Niemans.

We needed to know all of that, I am sure.

Since the outfit actually occurred in the three dimensional world, and is not a figment, like the resolution.

80. D. Throat - 25 July 2007

They are nervous…. they had better start doing shit or have their asses handed to them.

81. NYCee - 25 July 2007

Here’s the rest re hideous plans for Washington Square Park, in the heart of Greenwich Village, from Jonathan Greenberg. He is GOOD.

(Wish I could read everything here… at a glance, looks like rich pickins… but must fly… later!)

The website “PreserveWSP” has been updated, too, with action events.


From Greenberg:

In preparation for the two meetings about the plans, I prepared the letter below, which was published in the current Villager.

Ten Questions the Parks Dept. Has Refused to Answer about Washington Sq. Park

Talking Point by Jonathan Greenberg
The Villager
Published July 18, 2007

Next week, the Parks Department will reveal to the public its revised plans for the redesign of Washington Square Park (“WSP”). Two years ago, during the three month public Community Board review process for the redesign, Parks refused to leave a copy of the plans with the public or the Community board. Parks officials have also refused to go on the record answering a single one of the questions below.

These questions are offered with the hope that next week, our elected officials and members of the public can finally get answers from Park Dept. officials, answers that we need to insure that the park so many of us love will not be surreptitiously transformed.

1) Is the object of this redesign plan to change the way people use the park, and if so, in what way?

2) If it could be established that an overwhelming proportion of Villagers and New Yorkers favored using existing capital funds to simply renovate and improve WSP while preserving its current design, would the Parks dept be willing to allocate our tax dollars for this purpose, make the repairs, and keep the park open during the renovation process?

3) Since the park’s central plaza has for 40 years been the most popular gathering space in Greenwich Village, and one of the world’s most renowned impromptu performance and music jam spaces, why would you risk this current usage by dramatically changing its design?

4) How will the new design, which sinks the size of the central plaza by 23%, brings it to a street level grade and transforms the fountain into an ornamental fountain inaccessible to the public, fully preserve and maintain the exceptional impromptu theater in the round of the central plaza?

5) Why is the repair and upgrade of the park restrooms, which surveys show is the single highest priority for park users, not included in the budget for either of the planned two phases of the WSP redesign?

6) Will the newly designed walkways, split by planters and smaller than those there now, be able to accommodate the large number of people that pass through the park on busy weekends, and will we be able to stroll as freely in the walkway if we have baby strollers, are holding hands, or have dogs on leashes? Has any independent study ever been done as to how this redesign will impact the movement of crowds and public safety in the park?

7) Given that more than 90% of Villagers prefer the park’s permanent fence to be no higher than its current two foot height to maintain its popular open feel, why does Parks insist on a fence twice that height?

8) As the park re-design eliminates all six of the park’s quiet seating areas, do you feel that as many people will make use of the slightly expanded lawn as currently use the seating areas? DO you believe that people from the senior center across the street from the park will sit on the grass as they now sit in the quiet seating areas?

9) Has the Parks dept been “punishing” our community by not repairing the pavement, bathrooms or grass in WSP for the past two years, and does the Parks Dept. believe WSP is adequately maintained at this moment?

10) For 180 years WSP has been publicly funded. Will this plan require the creation of a conservancy to fund the park going forward?

Jonathan Greenberg, a local parent, is the lead plaintiff in Greenberg vs. City of New York and the founder of the Open Washington Square Park Coalition.

82. Revisionist - 25 July 2007
83. marisacat - 25 July 2007

ooo thanks for Oscar the cat.. the pics of him are great.

What I h ave read is that the enzymes change in the body with onset of illness or major change, os the presonal scent changes…. Oscar seems tuned in.

84. ms_xeno - 25 July 2007

Awful about the plans to obliterate WSQ. >: I first misread the info from last week as a plan to get rid of UNION Sq. Pk., which is right near the apartment I lived in back in ’84-’85.

I love to gripe about PDX, but we do love our parks, or memories of same. What the hell is wrong with these damn developers and their “elected” handmaidens ? >: Crap.

85. Revisionist - 25 July 2007

The Flemish Bush

On grand ceremonial occasions, nothing has the power to stir the heart and unite the public quite like the national anthem. Unless you are the new Prime Minister of Belgium.

Yves Leterme has not yet been officially sworn in but has already lost the confidence of half his country after reciting the opening lines of the Marseillaise – the French anthem – when asked if he knew the words to his country’s national song.

Belgium’s francophone newspapers today likened the gaffe to Nicolas Sarkozy, the French President, breaking into “God Save the Queen” on Bastille Day.

To add insult to injury, Mr Leterme then failed to give the correct reason behind the choice of June 21 for Belgium’s National Day.

“The proclamation of the constitution,” he said confidently, only to be reminded it was in fact the day that Leopold I became the King of the Belgians in 1831.

86. marisacat - 25 July 2007

This is so sweet of him. Lux on Hillary. LOL:

One thing I really respect about her is that she actually cares about getting the details of legislation right.

She always wanted to know how provisions in bills would affect specific people she had met on the campaign trail or knew from Arkansas or other places.

How things would affect Rupert. Ok I buy that one.

For me, having someone in her position care that much about the problems of specific people is an incredible thing.

The other thing I should say to the OpenLeft.com community, since we are so focused on building progressive infrastructure, is that she has done more than any other elected official I know about, with the possible exception of Sen. Daschle who has also been a stalwart in this arena, in terms of helping to build progressive infrastructure.

[we are so blessed. All that screaming for the patronage to come thru was the Boyz yellin’ at Hillary and her progressive infrastructure payments.. got it! — Mcat]

The Center for American Progress and Media Matters might not be in existence without her early help. She has helped the issue advocacy group I chair, American Family Voices, raise money. She has helped countless other strong progressive groups as well, and has exhorted many different donors I know to think more about infrastructure.

Thanks I got the massage. 8)

The whole thing is a hoot, read a certain way.

87. Revisionist - 25 July 2007

Someone emailed me yesterday to tell me that upon my arrival at Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport, devotees of Marisacat’s evil den of doom plan to “pie” me in the face. Now that is so spectactular that I feel it should be added to the schedule of Yearly Kos. Hell, we could cover the cost of the whole damn convention if we sell tickets. Is Soldier Field rented out that day?

88. lucid - 25 July 2007

Rev – who said that?

89. Revisionist - 25 July 2007

Delaweird Dumbfuck

90. ms_xeno - 25 July 2007

I wouldn’t waste good pie on those idjits. Who would, for pity’s sake ?

It may be binging on all those MASH videos, but I totally picture/hear DD/LV as Frank Burns. I just can’t help it.

I do hope that MJS of Stop Me and his army of moles will be attending again. The Paine Clan would need an entire floor of the hotel to itself. 😀

91. Miss Devore - 25 July 2007

82–I remember reading something within the last year or so about dogs being able to diagnose bladder cancer.

I would worry a bit if the health care industry utlized such phenomena. You’d have a triage cat in the ER. And instead of seeing a doctor you would walk through a kennel.

87–he’s going to be awfully disappointed when all that happens at Ohare is an overhead annoucement;” Mr. Vagina, please pick up the white courtesy phone!”

92. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 July 2007

Revisionist, #10 – That Kathy Griffin bit is priceless. Thanks for that.

93. BooHooHooMan - 25 July 2007

ms xee # 84

Why not obliterate Washington Square Park?

I mean, What do you say to people who have been slowly brainwashed into accepting the notion that progressive political action can be a private business? Think about that.

We have nothing less than post- Soviet gangsterism going on surrounding the sale of public assets: a naked transfer of public wealth assigned to a politically connected few. Shorn of risk, these ventures are easily financed: Land, Highways, Airwaves, Operating Licenses for everything from prisons to schools to gambling halls. Its de rigeur in GOP and Dem strongholds alike.

The incrementally audacious has been swallowed bit by bit by the gullible for so long that they no longer have their bearings. It’s funny, since Overton’s work was recieved with such enthusiasm some time back on DK like they just heard of Newton…We need this kind of “crashing the gates” ?@!?? I’ve seen enough of their dishonesty and croneyism on DK. It’s the kind of thing that corrupts everything from planning boards in local governments, to state legislatures, to the disaster of tacit complicity we have in Washington. The only use I see of this is the acceleration of collapse.

94. supervixen - 25 July 2007

#55, SB: well, thank you for the very kind words 🙂 I’m proud of my contributions at DKos, particularly telling the fuckers off in my last Supervixens diary.

I’m fortunate enough to be living a very nice, comfortable, happy life. But of course, as Armando says, it doesn’t exist – I have no husband and no life!! Those losers can’t stand to think that I’m so much better off than they are 😀

Elise, for example, can’t hold down a job or keep a boyfriend, and is living with her sister. LOL! With a personality like that, no wonder.

Quoth the DD:

Someone emailed me yesterday to tell me that upon my arrival at Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport, devotees of Marisacat’s evil den of doom plan to “pie” me in the face.

Good Goddess. He needs to get over himself. Such a thought never crossed my mind. I couldn’t be bothered to busy myself with such a project. However if other people do it, I promise to enjoy it ;-D

The whole “executive suite” of twits at DKos deserve a hearty entartement.

95. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 July 2007

god, why would I want to go anywhere near those losers? Get over yourself, you fucking ambulance chaser.

96. BooHooHooMan - 25 July 2007

oh and #90 ms xeno

” I wouldn’t waste good pie on those idjits.
Who would, for pity’s sake ?”

Could be any of a number of people….[whistling]

[liking pie filling]

Oh and the old “someone emailed me”….
Jason -yahright you’re one of our most loyal readers along with taylormattd.
A word of advise for any prospective pie recipient…it’s

97. marisacat - 25 July 2007

Not worth a pie.

And I don’t go to hot muggy places in August, anyway.

98. Revisionist - 25 July 2007

We could start PIETHISGUY.com. Post his pic and offer prize money to whoever is first to get a utube up.

99. misssheiladevore - 25 July 2007

I wonder if they are having any “blogger anonymity” panels, where they recount their traumatic outings…while outing themselves yet again.

100. BooHooHooMan - 25 July 2007

The obvious alternative is to not use a good pie.

Not a problem.

101. Revisionist - 25 July 2007

Would some blogger at least do a pity posting about LaMagna (D) for President. I mean the man is spending some ad dollars. Its the least yall could do.

102. misssheiladevore - 25 July 2007

“omg omg omg!!! (1+ / 0-)

Recommended by:

I’m SOOOOO Excited!!!!


I have THE cutest black dress ever…and other fabulous things to wear…and shoes…and omg omg omg…I have to email you with other potentially job-related fabulous news.

I touched the Universe — And back it slid — and I alone — A Speck upon a Ball — Went out upon Circumference — Beyond the Dip of Bell —

by Elise on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at “

103. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 July 2007

Lucid, someone made a joke here …. re Luscious’ announcement of his arrival ‘on the ground’ in Chicago for Yrlykos – it was so dramatic, it literally screamed for a joke …. and we, pranksters that we are, are always ready to oblige. He, addicted as he is to the collective charms of the wittiest blog on the internets, responds. Against his pledge to go ‘cold turkey’! Lol! Resistance is Futile!

Speaking of screaming, this has to win the irony award of the week, and the prize goes to Luscious Vagina once again. Need I say why?

This from someone who recommends sexist (11+ / 0-)
Recommended by:taylormattd, musing85, shayera, Ahianne, Builderman, Caldonia, Goldfish, DMiller, Elise, condoleaser, Mia Dolan

insults. Classy you are not.

In order to find his equal an Irishman is forced to talk to God.

Taking a peek at how the brainthrust of DK spend their time …. The Ghost of Frank Zappa demolished them, time and time again … despite being both grossly outnumbered ( by the usual mob) and handicapped being he is fighting them on their territory, unarmed!

ET paid him a great compliment, btw, compared him to hrh, which he enthusiastically embraced as would any intelligent man ….. I think this thread will make him a blogospheric hero.

She invited me to kiss the aforementioned (0+ / 5-)
Trollrated by:Savage, ablington, Goldfish, wiscmass, snafubar

backporch. I did not solicit that invitation. So, fair game.

Barbara Jordan = the anti Pelosi

by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:05:24 PM PDT


Right. (7+ / 0-)
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Only in your twisted mind.

I’m crumbelievable.

by clonecone on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:06:42 PM PDT


I beg your pardon. (0+ / 2-)
Trollrated by:clonecone, ETinKC

Read the thread.

Barbara Jordan = the anti Pelosi

by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:13:00 PM PDT


don’t be stupid (9+ / 0-)
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you slam her by name in a comment, she says “kiss my ass”, and that to you is an invitation to discuss her body type?

Rudy Giuliani sux .

by taylormattd on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:17:48 PM PDT


she says kiss my ass (0+ / 6-)
Trollrated by:Nate in IA, ablington, hopscotch1997, Scout Finch, brenda, jnhobbs

inviting my attention to her aforementioned caboose. and I’m the stupid one?

If your ass is enormous, don’t invite people’s attention. It’s glass houses and stones.

Barbara Jordan = the anti Pelosi

by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:27:04 PM PDT

Lol, looks like he was having a ball, no way were they going to intimidate him. Like so many others, he’s obviously had it with them and invited them to ban him, being that it’s a badge of honor these days, why just leave without having some fun?

But how thin-skinned can you be.(and they call others thin-skinned) He’s right, the woman is forever drawing attention to her body parts, and she doesnt’ miss the opportunity here again, either, he responded to her invitation, honestly, and sends them into a frenzy.

If only they could conjur up the same energy to get Nancy off her ass, but the diary they are in is what upset them. It dared to call Nancy a ‘pussy’! But didn’t they approve of the word ‘cunt’? Is it not, according DK feminist lore, ‘a beautiful word’? So why then should ‘pussy’ not also be embraced as a ‘beautiful word’? Could it be the target that determines their judgement? No, never …. rotfl!. Humorless trolls …. but the thread is hysterical … if you have nothing better to do, have fun! And applause for the Ghost of Frank Zappa, he zapped them good …


104. marisacat - 25 July 2007


Goose those dead Democrats.

Sure sounds like Bloomberg will enter. And wilfred said evening local NYC news hinted…


105. BooHooHooMan - 25 July 2007

Damn REV! # 98 & # 101 you have me rolling

I saw that La Magna ad the caption might have been something like
“Look, I’m bummin’, so I ‘m runnin’ for Prez.”

Works for me. Markos will do one of two things.

While taking the ad money,
They’ll give him a plug and sell it as “inclusiveness” LOL

While taking the ad money,
and having no interest in truly opening up debate,
they’ll say nothing and argue it is “editorial integrity” if asked.

Either way, Markos still gets the fucking money.

106. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 July 2007
107. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 July 2007
108. Sabrina Ballerina - 25 July 2007

SV, well if Armando declared your family doesn’t exist, who are you to argue? Lol …

but they got a virtual pie in the face from my new hero (no, don’t worry, it’s not a blog-crush and I’m not going to start talking about body parts, well, not on the internets anyhow). They thought they would insult Ghost of Frank Zappa (the man knows how to grab their feeble weapons and lob them right back) by using hrh – lol! He grabbed it and hit them right in their virtual, snide faces … this is how to deal with them …. all their tired old smears. He knew them well ….

hrh — is that you?
Recommended by:musing85, shayera, Ahianne, PaintyKat, Goldfish, DMiller, Elise, sbdenmon, Nightprowlkitty, condoleaser, brklyngrl

Because that is who you are coming across as right now.

Conservatism is Dead!

by Eternal Hope on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:12:59 PM PDT


I love hrh (0 / 0)
where’d she go?

Barbara Jordan = the anti Pelosi

by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:13:34 PM PDT


Where all banned trolls go. (16+ / 0-)
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The Island of Misfit Toys. They have a spot reserved for you.

I’m crumbelievable.

by clonecone on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:14:56 PM PDT


I’m not shocked. (13+ / 0-)
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Because she would ask people about their private sexual crushes just because they disagreed with her.

I suggest you go over to Marisacat’s blog, whereever it is, since you are such a big fan of hrh’s.

Conservatism is Dead!

by Eternal Hope on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:17:30 PM PDT


And let you tired old bags triumph? (0+ / 3-)
Trollrated by:hopscotch1997, irishwitch, brklyngrl
The girls club.

Nah. Ban me. Go for it. Use your powers as the brain police.

Barbara Jordan = the anti Pelosi

by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 06:23:26 PM PDT

That Clonecone, such a tough guy …. lol!

Frank Zappa’s ghost didn’t give them the right answer, he was supposed to say ‘Oh no, not that’! Because in their tiny world, what they believe is what everyone must believe. The reality is that hrh is admired over there by a majority of people, far more so than that little band of thugs.

How many grown men spend their time rummaging through the hidden comments of a blog looking for action? Pretty pathetic …

109. BooHooHooMan - 25 July 2007

Et tu Eternal Hope?

“I suggest you go over to Marisacat’s blog, whereever it is”,

Yep EH barely knows “Marisacat’s blog” in a perfectly spelled and Enunciated kind of way…too funny such phoneys.

110. Madman in the Marketplace - 25 July 2007

but the Misfit Toys were the REAL heroes of Rudolph!

I’d rather be a spotted elephant than a donklephant fanboy/girl eager to elect former Republicans.

I’m FLATTERED that they think we’re misfit toys. Coming from kookie-kutter drones, that’s a compliment.

111. misssheiladevore - 25 July 2007

I am very touched reading the accounts/pics of the celebrations of Iraqis (unfortunately attended by a couple car-bombings) over their win in the Asian soccer semi-finals. Just the thought of Iraqis having some simple collective joy where they take to their still- dangerous streets. The team itself includes Sunnis, Shias and Kurds, and there are accounts that people risked contacting their old soccer buddies of different sects to watch the game together.

I hope they kick Saudi Arabia’s ass in the finals on sunday.

112. misssheiladevore - 25 July 2007

oh no……just saw a story up at raw story “Bloggers pray for O’Reilly”…it links to Street Profits..and the inimitable pastordamning.

Gee, O’reilly gets prayers and Marisacat got curses.

113. Revisionist - 25 July 2007

As a long-time participant in the Daily Kos community

and by participant pastor dan means “I am on the payroll”

114. misssheiladevore - 25 July 2007

you mean the “prayroll” ….like a blogroll, only selecting the important people to pray for.

115. liberalcatnip - 25 July 2007

lol…thanks for all of the laughs guys.

SB, I’ve thought about doing some freelance writing but half the time I’m too tire to even get a few blog posts done in a day right now. But thanks for the compliment. 😉


116. liberalcatnip - 25 July 2007

Mr Vagina may want to invest in some Viperette™ gum to help break him of his addiction to this place. And his friends (who are supposedly e-mailing him about what’s said here) really should seek out Co-dependent Vaginaites Anonymous meetings. I hear there’s one scheduled during Ykos.

117. ms_xeno - 25 July 2007

I’m sorry, BHHM. It’s just that one of these days, I might want to visit some of my old NYC haunts and not find every last one of them replaced by Potted Bucks and Starry Barn. You know how it is… :/

118. Miss Devore - 25 July 2007

“Since this internet thing is anonymous, I’m tempted to share a sob story as to why I’m unable to attend. And I do have one. But the real reason is I can’t support the politics of this site any longer, it’s become a little too top-down for my tastes. And I’m sure that’s effective and all, but it’s not for me. So for those of you that are interested I’m willing to auction off my registration to the highest bidder.
Bidding starts at $100 , whatta bargain. “

119. lucid - 25 July 2007

Miss D – Damn I shoulda thought of that when I left – a 30K UID with TU status to the highest bidder. Maybe I coulda gotten lunch money!

120. liberalcatnip - 25 July 2007

#118. Who wrote that comment. Miss D?

Btw, I think some of them are just a tad clueless about how this whole internets thing works. They do realize, don’t they, that when they post “hey come have a beer with me at such and such a place at 5pm” that other people on the tubes can read that, right? I mean like “other” other people?

121. liberalcatnip - 25 July 2007

I can’t sell mine, lucid. Nightprowlerperson has informed me that I am no longer a member in good standing (according to her decree). (hahahaha)

122. Miss Devore - 25 July 2007

catnip-it’s someone who wrote a diary to sell his yk2 ticket. (“bubbles”)

123. liberalcatnip - 25 July 2007

Who the hell is LaMagna?

124. Miss Devore - 25 July 2007

are you a pre-troll, catnip?

125. Miss Devore - 25 July 2007

123-everyone is too afraid to click and find out.

126. Miss Devore - 25 July 2007

well, I gotta go to bed….after I say my prayers for Luscious Vagina, of course.

127. bayprairie - 25 July 2007

oh no……just saw a story up at raw story “Bloggers pray for O’Reilly”…it links to Street Profits..and the inimitable pastordamning.

Gee, O’reilly gets prayers and Marisacat got curses.

what laughable simpleton horseshit. what a ridiculous promotional STUNT.

128. liberalcatnip - 26 July 2007

#122, Oh thanks Miss D. 🙂 I’ll check that out.

123-everyone is too afraid to click and find out.

lol 🙂

A pre-troll? Or a troll-in-waiting? Or perhaps I’m a fetus troll? I could go on. But I won’t.

I am not a troll! I’m an herbal being!!

129. liberalcatnip - 26 July 2007

Okay, I’m sorry. But this ykos second life shit is just too much.

This could be their theme song.

130. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 July 2007

You guys are too funny …. Catnip, love the anti-addiction products. Think he’ll bite? We could give him a discount …

Gee, O’reilly gets prayers and Marisacat got curses. Miss Devore

True, I remember that ….. he led his ‘congregation’ in an orgy of hatred towards a political adversary. Airc, one of them was practically orgasmic over the thought of clawing and scratching Marisacat …. someone should send that diary from DK’s Christian icon to O’Reilly. I would, but I really don’t want to help continue the phony fight. A lot of people are laughing at the whole thing.

They love those righties … I noticed too that in the FEC debacle, Kos had NO supporters on the left. His supporters were all rightwing blogs.

I read a post at MLW which said that Act Blue had collected over $25, 000, 000 and that no one knows whether or not Kos has received a % of that. I imagine that would be looked into …. 5% of that wouldn’t be bad at all. Over a million …who knows, but one thing is certain, they literally go ballistic anytime anyone dares to ask any questions at all about where their money comes from.

As Bhhm said above, it isn’t protecting free speech (rotflmao) they are worried about, it’s the possible revelations about how they are funded and where all the money came from. If they nothing to hide, why not answer the questions?

Bayprairie – I couldn’t agree more with your last sentence – it is mind-numbing stupidity, reminds me of some those early televangelist infomercials during the ‘nineties …

NYCee, thanks for the updates on Washington Sq Park. I hope you all get enough support to stop it …

Mitm, those misfit toys are adorable …. how did Clonecone know? Have we been outed?

Miss Devore is on a roll tonight …

87–he’s going to be awfully disappointed when all that happens at Ohare is an overhead annoucement;” Mr. Vagina, please pick up the white courtesy phone!”


131. liberalcatnip - 26 July 2007
132. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 July 2007

Btw, Marisacat, I think Bloomberg will run …. all polls indicate that the public is ready for a third party. An Independent like Bloomberg has a appeal to both left and right …. it’s hard to say who would be the most affected …. but it would make this whole boring enterprise a lot more interesting … I hope he does.

133. Sabrina Ballerina - 26 July 2007

Thanks, Catnip …. will read it … btw, you don’t have to write new material, you could use what you’ve already written on torture, on the prisons here with a few updates, then send it out to hundreds of local papers around the country ….. just a thought …

134. liberalcatnip - 26 July 2007

Catnip, love the anti-addiction products. Think he’ll bite? We could give him a discount …

Well we already know that he bites. Oh…you mean that other way. No discounts. In fact, I think we should make a large capitalist-type profit. Make him put his money where his big mouth is.

135. liberalcatnip - 26 July 2007

I’ll give that some thought, SB, but first I should get some sleep. 😉

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