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Is there any “news”? 2 November 2007

Posted by marisacat in DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, SCOTUS, The Battle for New Orleans, WAR!.
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        hell, looks like funerary urns to me...

Beach sand pushes up against a wall and onto the Broadwalk Wednesday, Oct. 31, 2007 on Fort Lauderdale Beach in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Rough surf warnings were in effect for much of South Florida as winds and rain from Tropical Storm Noel pelted the area. (AP Photo/Wilfredo Lee)

Noel tears at sea walls from the late 50s, in South Palm Beach.  Lawns superimposed on dunes are claimed by the sea

And then there is war.  But no news, not really:

Many of the same people who think George W. Bush is a war criminal who lied us into invading Iraq will nonetheless dutifully pull the lever for Hillary, who has criticized the president for being soft on the mullahs. 

Having already given her moral and political sanction for attacking Iran by voting for the Kyl-Lieberman resolution – which, even in the slightly watered-down version passed by the Senate, provides enough cover for the Bush administration, or its successor, to claim the authority to take military action – Hillary Clinton will inherit and continue the neocons’ wars, and will be no less committed to “victory.”

Americans see their leading politicians “debating,” but none of them are opposing war with Iran: indeed, they all seem to be going along with it, with a few exceptions – and these exceptions, precisely because they aren’t going along to get along, are invariably dismissed by the pundits as “minor” or “fringe” candidates, who cannot under any circumstances be taken seriously.

The majority of Americans now want a definite deadline for the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq, and yet not a single “major” candidate for president proposes such a course.

The debate, the course of it and the aftermath, was largely predictable…  yet she seemed surprised. I don’t look forward to seeing that face for years, under the inevitable siege…  

The candidates cannot claim, at this point, to be tired, fatigued, over booked, etc.  Not yet.  They can claim [bitch and moan] poor press coverage or lack of coverage (have a hankie) but as they inevitably become fatigued, Iowa approaches, then NH, it could, at the very least, get amusing.

Something to hope for in the utter wreckage.

Other than that, it is war. 

Bruce Fein writes wonderfully, the argument for reinstating Habeas Corpus.  He calls Bush and the congress the Jacobins.  He’s right, but it is not news.  By now the few who speak out, as do Fein and Turley and a few others, are begging.  By now it is begging.  That is what Bush and congress have left for us, to beg.

Bush and the congess do not care. And that is not news, either..

How can we be surprised?  We built lawns over sand dunes, in defiance of the open sea, purely for the sake of development…  It was only a matter of time.

Better to be as the monks of Burma, who risk their robes, their skulls, their temples and their lives:   They are not begging.

Fein spends two pages (in the WashTimes, no less) arguing for HC, delineating in faithful fashion the stats for Guantanamo. It is, as it always is, heartbreaking.  Oh, but if only those hapless souls, shanghai’d for bounty most of them, if only they mattered to most in the US, if only the correlation could be drawn.

HC is suspended, ultimately, for a smoother, easier detention ready USA!USA!.  I read at the tag end of some article about the hideous counter-insurgency manual – and the surge – that of course it was nothing in Baghdad, the purpose was as PR to quell a restive public at home and to separate and isolate the anti-war activists – where else?  at home – from the US citizenry.

If only US citizens could get it, it does not matter to the government WHO is in Quantanamo, as long as someone is.

As I finished reading one of the “sea lashes at the condo wall” articles… I think maybe I finally, fully got it… Of course I always knew it, just never settled for it…

Tourism leaders such as Broward’s Nicki Grossman and Miami-Dade’s William Talbert are quick to point out the importance of keeping South Florida’s beaches in shape.

”It’s one of the key reasons people visit South Florida,” Grossman said.

Talbert said polls of visitors consistently show Miami-Dade’s beaches are among the top three reasons the county has so many tourists.

”If our beaches aren’t up to snuff and in good condition, there is certainly a lot of competition out there,” he said.

America does understand, as long as you are a bona fide “tourist”, white skinned or at least flush with cash and proper ID, you won’t end up in Guantanamo.

If people look around, a lot of fictions erected behind old sea walls are washing out….  That one will go too..

‘Whiteness’ is thus a destructive ideology that prevents people from pursuing their class interests and encourages them to accept subordination, even while supposing that this ‘quality’ makes them superior.

This is why James Baldwin said, “As long as you think you’re white, there’s no hope for you”.

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1. marisacat - 2 November 2007

right at the end of the last post — and just before I posted this new thread… IB left 4 comments

from a reply to catnip, curveball being named, Condi and the Kurds to new things Spurlock is up to…

All four are right in a row and this link is to the first

8)

2. Intermittent Bystander - 2 November 2007

Thanks, Mcat!

Attention NYC metropolitan non-shoppers – Reverend Billy and The Church Of Stop Shopping will be holding a revival at The Highline Ballroom (431 West 16th Street) this weekend. Press release:

Reverend Billy and The Church Of Stop Shopping call Street Furniture Initiative “a nightmare out of Blade Runner” as media conglomerates replace community fixtures

When: Sunday, November 4, 2:00pm

What: A Hot and Holy revival featuring Reverend Billy, the Stop Shopping Gospel Choir and Not Buying It Band, fresh from the CMJ and Globesity festivals. Brothers and Sisters will shake, shimmy and shout “Change-a-lujah!” as the congregation confronts the shopocalyptic Street Furniture Initiative engineered by Bloomberg/Doctoroff to cover every inch of New York with full-motion Ad Assaults. Hell is a city where thousands of billboards can insult your love-life but a hundred citizens can’t sing about peace!

3. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2007

On “Fresh Air” yesterday, a lawyer representing several prisoners at Gitmo talked about what was going on down there.

After that horror, for “balance”, I was treated to a remarkable onslaught of sophistry from Capt. Pat McCarthy, the U.S. government’s lead counsel in Guantanamo.

Our gov’t isn’t going to stop our crimes any time soon … just new PR campaigns to keep the lid on and the fire boiling under the pot they’ve dumped the world into.

Time to get ready for work … keep an eye out today for the new jobs numbers. Things could get ugly if they’re bad.

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2007

Thanks for the Fein … I would never have seen it otherwise, since they put it in the Moonie Times.

5. Intermittent Bystander - 2 November 2007

That photo with the the sandy urns only lacks for blood and body parts to be rendered fully Baghdadian.

Guantanamo detainee defense attorney Clive Stafford Smith was interviewed on Fresh Air last night. Justice on the Windward Side of Guantanamo.

6. Intermittent Bystander - 2 November 2007

Whoops – Madman beat me to it. Glad I missed the McCarthy segment.

7. marisacat - 2 November 2007

IB

Thanks for mentioning the picture… I trolled thru almost a hundred shots of Noel at Yahoo for that one.

😉

8. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2007

OH, the McCarthy was terrible. The usual character attacks on Smith, and on anybody who criticizes Gitmo. You want us all to die in terrorist attacks, essentially, and the usually “we couldn’t find any documentary evidence” dodge over the outrages that Smith’s clients have reported to him (and after all, he’s a DEFENSE ATTORNEY, so he’s by definition a slick liar).

It’s the, to steal Ward Churchill’s phrase, medium Eichmans like McCarthy (and what a perfect name, going by the rhetorical brickbats he was swinging) that are turning us completely into fascists.

Off to work … job numbers out in about 10 minutes. They’re predicting an increase of about $80k, which is really anemic.

9. marisacat - 2 November 2007

Bob Kaplan sells AFRICOM in The Atlantic [not behind a wall]… and a hideous sales job it is too.

[T]he so-called long war—and particularly the work of AFRICOM—will be relentless and low-key. Small-scale elite ground units composed largely of junior and noncommissioned officers, working with local armies, assisted by air and sea platforms, will hunt down select individuals.

And unlike U.S. operations in Iraq, AFRICOM will deny any point of concentration for the media. Strikes earlier this year on suspected al-Qaeda targets in Somalia are a case in point. When an AC-130 gunship takes off from a base in Djibouti, or attack helicopters and surveillance planes take off from warships in the Indian Ocean, there is nothing to film, no way of embedding, and no way of knowing the result until the military tells you.

Such operations by AFRICOM will not need an exit strategy, since the military will not be present in high numbers in the first place. Southern Command in the drug war in Colombia, and Pacific Command in the war against Islamic insurgents in the southern Philippines, work like this. The creation of AFRICOM signifies the adoption of that paradigm on a grander scale.

Vote Hillary, she’s on board and she’s your girl!

10. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2007

Just in time for the weekend …

MISSING WHITE WOMAN. Bonus for the media (John Roberts just joked about it), her last name is Peterson.

They are reporting an increase in jobs of 166k … “better than expected”.

Have a good day everybody.

11. Intermittent Bystander - 2 November 2007

Bandar Bush bites the hand that holds his!

Ex-Saudi ambassador: Kingdom could have helped U.S. prevent 9/11

Saudi Arabia could have helped the United States prevent al Qaeda’s 2001 attacks on New York and Washington if American officials had consulted Saudi authorities in a “credible” way, the kingdom’s former ambassador said in a documentary aired Thursday.

The comments by Prince Bandar bin Sultan are similar to the remarks this week by Saudi King Abdullah that suggested Britain could have prevented the July 2005 train bombings in London if it had heeded warnings from Riyadh.

Speaking to the Arabic satellite network Al-Arabiya on Thursday, Bandar — now Abdullah’s national security adviser — said Saudi intelligence was “actively following” most of the September 11, 2001, plotters “with precision.”

12. marisacat - 2 November 2007

Speaking of Bandar, Abdullah and her Rexness…

Angry Arab ran a stunning shot of the Queen and Abdullah. In matching red, what can I say.

13. marisacat - 2 November 2007
14. marisacat - 2 November 2007

ugh

the last graf from kaplan in the ATlantic (link is at # 9)

AFRICOM should be a catalyst for greater military cooperation with civilian relief agencies and other nongovernmental organizations. Like it or not, because humanitarian operations are about logistics, quick access, and the establishment of security perimeters, they encompass a strong military element. The boards of directors of some NGOs understand this; it is their young and idealistic volunteers who must get over their inherent distrust of the American military.

Indeed, through a combination of small-scale military strikes that do not generate bad publicity and constant involvement on the soft, humanitarian side of military operations, AFRICOM could rebuild the post-Iraq image of the American soldier in the global commons.

15. marisacat - 2 November 2007

Democrats Stand Back as War Funding Continues

link

Truthout’s Maya Schenwar reports:

“In the next few days, a Congressional conference committee will likely pass the largest defense spending bill in the history of the United States. Despite Democratic lawmakers’ promises to stop issuing blank checks for war, the bill does not call for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq or Afghanistan, nor does it prevent military action against Iran.”

Be sure and Vote! Early and often!

16. marisacat - 2 November 2007

The opening grafs of The Note:

A moment of silence, please, for Invincible Hillary. She left us at 11 am ET yesterday, in Wellesley, Mass., a victim of her own hand. She was 10 months old. She is survived by Victim Hillary.

“In so many ways this all women’s college prepared me to compete in the all-boys club of presidential politics,” Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., said yesterday at her alma mater, Wellesley College.

This from the frontrunner, the wire-to-wire leader, the choice of the Democratic establishment, the candidate of strength, determination, experience. In the context of her poor debate performance, with all her (male) rivals sensing an opportunity to chip away at her 30-point lead, this is called playing the gender card. [snip]

17. Intermittent Bystander - 2 November 2007

MCat at 12 – Link goes to Times Online story about a rape and killing (allegedly by a homeless immigrant) near Rome.

But I found Abdullah and her Rexness at Angry Arab – you’re right, it’s a beaut.

As is your Floridunes-and-the-40-Condo-Developers photo choice above.

18. marisacat - 2 November 2007

ooo thanks! I fixed the link to the photo of Eliz and Abdullah…

19. Intermittent Bystander - 2 November 2007

More on Florida land-use politics from an August article by Carl Hiaasen: Crist blows it on his FWC appointments

From its title, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission sounds like an agency dedicated to, well, the conservation of fish and wildlife.

Names, however, can be deceiving.

In recent times, the seven-member panel has been stacked with pro-development types, including: a shopping mall builder from Tampa, a construction executive from Delray Beach, a bigshot with a huge Panhandle development firm and a politically connected Miami lobbyist.

Not surprisingly, the conservation commission has compiled a record of environmental stewardship that cannot be called distinguished. Its most notorious sellout was continuing the barbaric ”pay-to-pave” policy that allowed developers to bury gopher tortoises alive.

Over the past 16 years, the state has issued permits for the ”entombment” of 94,000 tortoises whose burrows stood in the way of highways, subdivisions and shopping centers. In exchange, developers paid into a special fund for the purchase of habitat elsewhere, a gesture of negligible benefit to the many tortoises they were mashing with their bulldozers.

After a public outcry, the tortoise policy was terminated in July, although numerous unused permits remain valid.

Gov. Charlie Crist had an opportunity to restore some balance and credibility to the FWCC by appointing three new members last week. He blew it, big-time.

The governor reappointed Kathy Barco, a Jacksonville construction company executive and chairwoman of the Southeastern Legal Foundation, a group that aggressively opposes land-use restrictions and environmental regulations.

For new faces, Crist turned to Ron Bergeron, a wealthy Broward builder who also owns a mining operation, and Kenneth Wright, an Orlando land-use attorney whose firm, Shutts and Bowen, represents many of Central Florida’s biggest developers.

20. Intermittent Bystander - 2 November 2007

More Hiaasen, from September: Land-use initiative facing sneaky tactics

You can be sure you’re on the right side of an issue if John Thrasher is on the other.

The former Florida House speaker and big-shot lawyer-lobbyist has sent out a mass-mailing to scare voters into removing their signatures from a statewide petition in favor of the ”Florida Hometown Democracy” amendment.

The Hometown Democracy initiative would let citizens vote to approve or reject major changes to the comprehensive land-use plans in their counties or cities. For the first time, Floridians would have some direct control over how their communities grow.

Thrasher’s deceptive and slimy letter is proof of the panic that has set in among those who’ve made a fortune raping the state and are afraid of losing their sweet ride.

The lobbyist ominously warns that, if the Hometown Democracy amendment passes, ”special interests” will triumph and ”Big Developers” will wreck Florida’s “scenic beauty.”

What Thrasher neglects to reveal in his fright mailing is that big developers and landholders are the ones most frantically opposed to the Hometown Democracy movement, and that he himself represents some of the biggest, including the St. Joe Co., which is currently selling off the Panhandle.

He says that allowing the voters to decide whether they want a new megamall or condo tower down the street could stifle growth and cause taxes to go up — another cynical fiction designed to frighten middle-class workers and the elderly.

What really causes taxes to soar is the need for increased services due to overdevelopment and overcrowding. Bad planning means that the public ends up paying dearly and repeatedly for more roads, fire stations, police patrols, water-treatment plants and schools.

Lots of folks in Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties will tell you that runaway growth has done nothing but push up their tax bills and diminish the quality of their family’s lives.

His scare letter comes with a postage-paid envelope. Mail it back with the two-word reply of your choice.

21. CSTAR - 2 November 2007

Re #11 Heads of state
One wonders: Is the nation-state obsolete? An instrument to enforce racial, religious and ethnic division and internal suppression of minorities?

22. wozzle - 2 November 2007

In far too many cases, heads-of-state belong on pikes-of-state…

23. marisacat - 2 November 2007

Pepe Escobar in ATimes on Kurds, US and Israel.

The US and Israeli establishment regards Hezbollah as a group of evil super-terrorists. But the PKK consists of just “minor” terrorists, and very useful ones at that, since the US Central Intelligence Agency is covertly financing and arming the PJAK (Party for Free Life in Kurdistan), the Iranian arm of the PKK, whose mission is to “liberate” parts of northwest Iran.

Not accidentally, the new PKK overdrive coincides with US – and also Israeli – covert support for the PJAK. Israel has not only invested a lot in scores of business ventures in Iraqi Kurdistan, it has also extensively trained Kurdish peshmerga special commandos, who could easily share their knowledge with their PKK cousins.

The new PKK offensive coincides with a PKK flush with new mortars, anti-tank weapons, rocket-propelled grenades and even anti-aircraft missiles. And most of all, the PKK drive coincides with the mysteriously vanished scores of light weapons the Pentagon sent to Iraq with no serial numbers to identify 97% of them.

The person responsible for this still unsolved mystery is none other than the counterinsurgency messiah and top commander in Iraq, General David Petraeus. The suspicion that the Pentagon never wanted these weapons to be traced in the first place cannot be easily dismissed. Either that or the PKK has been very active lately in the black market for light weapons.

24. marisacat - 2 November 2007

fwiw……in “Breaking News”

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and other senior intelligence will be subpoenaed to discuss their discussions with pro-Israel lobbyists, a federal judge ruled Friday in an espionage case.

Lawyers for two former American Israel Public Affairs Committee lobbyists facing espionage charges have subpoenaed Rice, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams and several others to testify at their trial next year. Prosecutors had challenged the subpoenas in federal court. ::snip::

25. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic Sens. Charles Schumer of New York and Dianne Feinstein of California say the will support Michael Mukasey’s nomination to be attorney general. Both are members of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Torture? No big deal, apparently.

Send money now to those Dems!

26. lucid - 2 November 2007

I’m so proud of my pair of senators 😦 … I voted for each of them once – and that was far too many times.

27. marisacat - 2 November 2007

I supported the ’82 recall against Dianne… when she was mayor. No shock, “downtown” saved her sorry ass. All she has done is accumulate power, all along.

28. marisacat - 2 November 2007

According to ABC it can now move out of committee…

And people should note the speech that Bush gave just – what? – yesterday. Invoking Hilter and Lenin, the danger of missing a threat… mimicing Pdhoretz, who of course does not “advise” the administration, nor advise Guiliani, he just sends FUCKING EMAILS TO THEM BOTH…

… and Bush slamming the so called left… CodePink and MoveOn.org.

And Shumer and DiFi cannto wait to get to mics to declare that torture of Islamofascists is not worth troubling over. THAT is what is really going on.

29. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

Slobbering over John Kerry who says the party needs to get tough on swiftboating tactics. I don’t think I need to state the obvious.

30. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

… and Bush slamming the so called left… CodePink and MoveOn.org.

He mentioned bloggers in that speech too. Who knew he even knew what a blog was? Or at least his speech writer does anyway. With Bush talking about WW3 & Hitler, he really has nowhere to go from there unless he starts invoking space aliens out to decimate the planet. The man has clearly lost it.

31. marisacat - 2 November 2007

Except it worked. Look at Dianne and Shumer. They ran to the mics, after Bush said Mukasey in committe was being treated “unfairly”.

Not that they had any problem wtih Mukasey… but once again it all falls into place.

32. marisacat - 2 November 2007

here is full text of the Bush speech of yesterday, 11/1… red meat to the Heritage crowd

33. Hair Club for Men - 2 November 2007

Except it worked. Look at Dianne and Shumer. They ran to the mics, after Bush said Mukasey in committe was being treated “unfairly”.

Comeon. Did you really think they were going to oppose Mukasey?

34. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

So..are those 28 redacted pages about the Saudis in the 9/11 report going to be released now?

35. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

Schumer couldn’t exactly run away from the man he had suggested as AG. As for Feinstien, she seems to become more useless with each year that passes.

36. marisacat - 2 November 2007

LOL after the market closes… and from little drifts around, sounds like Goldman Sachs has some hanging scandale… du jour. Something about making tons of money wehn other firms were not (snips and snaps in Schechter’s News Dissector lately)

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

CITIGROUP CEO CHARLES PRINCE, UNDER PRESSURE OVER MORTGAGE LOSSES, IS EXPECTED TO OFFER HIS RESIGNATION, WALL STREET JOURNAL REPORTS

http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396

37. marisacat - 2 November 2007

35

yeah but useless to whom?

Thye (she and Blum) have done nothing but amass power. A couple halfway decent years in the 70s, if one is talking about being useful to ordinary people. Who do not matter.

38. antihegemonic - 2 November 2007

So Feinstein and Schumer will vote for Mukasey. Elect more Dems. Elect more Dems until Schumer resigns.

39. marisacat - 2 November 2007

33

uh no I did not.

Remember, I stopped voting for the bitch just about 30 years ago. She was my district supervisor before she was President of the Bd of Supes.

But Bush’s speech was the cue. With leahy wavering yesterday, and now today it doesnot matter what he does, or does not do. Nor will Sheldon Whitehouse be discussing that we must oppose torture.

It’s over. The entire torture debate is over. Unless people want to fool themselves.

Sorry, I am not one who calls Bush crazy, if he is, he is like lots of Americans – and others too, sad to say.

40. Hair Club for Men - 2 November 2007

I haven’t even been paying attention to Mukasey.

I’d feel a bit like a Russian circa 1978 hoping for some independent reporting in Pravda.

41. marisacat - 2 November 2007

well I am not claiming htere was some active real debate over torture, but a few things got said.

What little there was is over.

42. Hair Club for Men - 2 November 2007

well I am not claiming htere was some active real debate over torture, but a few things got said.

It always seems like a lot of theater to me, and most of it seemed designed to build up John McCain.

It’s probably better that they come out and admit it. They’re going to do it anyway.

I don’t really buy the argument that there was some great change in our culture with Bush and Iraq. Torture is a fundamental part of American culture, always been and (barring any radical change) always will.

Note. I sound as if I’m being aggressively cynical here but I’m really not. Torture has its origins in slavery and puritanism. It’s as American as apple pie. The NYPD used torture all through the 1990s. Just go through the black neighborhoods in New York and talk to people. You’ll find any number of perfectly innocent black men who were tortured. Same with Chicago.But you’ll never hear this about Giuliani in the media.

Our popular culture is saturated with torture. Hannibal Lecter, Saw, every slasher movie ever made, the torturer is the glorified alpha male.

Torture is also sexualized. Andrea Dworkin is right about the culture of violence against women (although wrong about it being biological). The American alpha male is a torturer at heart. He’s sexy. Look though any fashion magazine. Read any romance novel.

Torture is part of the upbrining of children. It’s part of training animals. It’s part of religion.

This might actually be my favorite book about torture, although it’s not directly about torture.

http://tinyurl.com/yu2le5

43. Hair Club for Men - 2 November 2007

But I guess the question is, is some hypocrisy better?

I don’t know. But that’s what the change is, no more hypocrisy about it.

The next step of course is making it OK to tortue white people. I wonder if it will be an environmentalist or an anti-war activist.

The “don’t tase me bro” guy came close. Even Atrios uses that as a jokey one liner now.

44. Hair Club for Men - 2 November 2007

Olbermann’s going off on a righteous rant about the Torturecrats now.

The moral outrage is now part of the approved spectacle.

45. marisacat - 2 November 2007

don’t really buy the argument that there was some great change in our culture with Bush and Iraq.

I don’t and did n’t buy that one either. Bush appealed, very much tactically and strategically, to elements of the American people that are constant. Our wars are racist wars. School of the Americas is not news, Gen Miller from Abu Ghraib got a promotion and is at Fort Huachuca, where Catholic priests were arrested and sentenced for civil disobedience. Think iirc, they just got sentences similar to the Catholic laity in Binghampton NY of a couple years ago, who spilled cows’ blood at a recruiting center, about 6 months.

BTW, as Bush mentions Code Pink, and Fairooz the woman who confronted Condi with bloodied hands is now banned from the Hill… thru November CodePink will carry out, the plan is to be daily, protests at the Oaklnd induction center…

46. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

thru November CodePink will carry out, the plan is to be daily, protests at the Oaklnd induction center…

And who will join them? Nobody, I bet.

One one hand, I feel like I’m living in some torturing parallel universe. Otoh, as you’ve both said, torture has been a “policy” for a VERY long time – whether Americans wanted to admit it or not. The thing is though, now that it’s out there that it IS definitely a policy, can your fellow countrymen continue to hide from it? Will they? I suppose the answer to that is “yes”, unfortunately – and that’s where my outrage is directed: at the Good Germans.

As for the Democrats, fuck them. If I was Leahy, I’d bolt.

47. Hair Club for Men - 2 November 2007

Here’s a mock waterboarding at an anti-war protest.

http://www.pbase.com/srogouski/waterboarding

It’s interesting that Ana Marie Cox/Wonkette witnessed the same thing and got so disturbed by it that she went to the cops and tried to get them to stop it. They refused.

It kind of disturbed me that I wasn’t disturbed by it at all. I was like “cool a waterboarding. Let’s take some photos”.

Now if they had been stretching someone on the wrack or pulling someone’s fingernails out, the cops would have stopped it (maybe).

But the evil/sinister thing about these kinds of torture is that you can hide them in plain sight. It’s about the control/helplessness of the person being waterboarded, not the act itself.

48. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2007

‘Unwelcoming’ US sees sharp fall in visitors since 9/11

WASHINGTON (AFP) — The number of foreign visitors to the United States has plummeted since the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York and Washington because foreigners don’t feel welcome, tourism professionals said Thursday.

“Since September 11, 2001, the United States has experienced a 17 percent decline in overseas travel, costing America 94 billion dollars in lost visitor spending, nearly 200,000 jobs and 16 billion dollars in lost tax revenue,” the Discover America advocacy campaign said in a statement.

Chairman Stevan Porter lamented the “extraordinary decline” in the number of overseas visitors to the United States, while the advocacy group’s executive director, Geoff Freeman, blamed the slump on the shabby welcome many foreigners feel they get in the United States.

“It’s clear what’s keeping people away in the post-9/11 environment: it is the perception around the world that travelers aren’t welcome,” Freeman told AFP.

“Travelers around the world feel the US entry experience is among the world’s worst,” Freeman said, calling on the US government to work with the private sector to make visa acquisition more efficient, the entry process traveler-friendly, and to improve communication.

The head of the Travel Industry Association, Roger Dow, at a recent briefing for reporters also stressed the importance “of the welcome we issue to people.

“What affects travel and tourism affects our economy and our image around the world. Travel and tourism is the face of America, whether it’s people coming here or Americans going elsewhere,” he said.

“It’s the person coming from India to look at a company in America for parts, or a person from South America who can’t get into the country for a conference because he can’t get a visa,” Dow said.

49. marisacat - 2 November 2007

As I said up in the post, it is not news and god help you if you feel you are white.

Another fiction, soon to fall into the sea.

It only matters that someone be incarcerated at Guantanamo.

Sure, either an eco terrorist or an anti war terrorist.

Remember Ann Wright, who served in the mil and in the Foreign Service, is banned from Canada for YEAR for anti war protest. My own guess, the two contries have a slowly evolving letter of agreement, to eventually have the same border policies.

50. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

Blitzer interviewed Nader today about his lawsuit against the Dems. You gotta hand it to Ralph – he just keeps pushing right along.

51. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

My own guess, the two contries have a slowly evolving letter of agreement, to eventually have the same border policies.

You don’t have to guess at it. The SPP codifies it as our governments meet behind closed doors.

52. marisacat - 2 November 2007

well it ws leahy, as chair of the Judiciary, who refused to meet with the CT librarians… who had been under siege under the Patriot Act, from HLS and FBI for two years. Over librarians’ records. They decided to stand up to it, to all of it… Under gag order, even at points unable to discuss / contact the ACLU.

He refused to meet with them as they were “nto his constituents”.

He is another old shit, bound up in knots iwth sell outs and Catholicism and whatever else. he certainly has the face he deserves, one of those lipless smiles.

53. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

And, in case you didn’t know, Canadian planes flying over your country now have to hand over their passenger lists to DHS or whoever. As someone said (a pundit or politician), this gives the name of every Canadian businessperson potentially dealing with Cuba to the US government and they could eventually be nailed under the Helms Burton Act.

On top of that, big news up here this week is that Canada will no longer advocate for clemency for Canadians sentenced to the death penalty in countries that are “democracies”. ie. they’ll still go after China but it’s hands off the US. These fucking conservatives are joined at the hip to the Repubs.

54. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

He refused to meet with them as they were “nto his constituents”.

I didn’t know that. Is there no one with a real spine in the Dem party? (rhetorical question)

55. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2007

Kucinich Will Introduce Privileged Resolution To Force Up Or Down Vote On Cheney Impeachment

Washington, Nov 2 – Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) announced today that he will be offering a privileged resolution on the House floor next week that will bring articles of impeachment against the Vice President, Richard B. Cheney.

“The momentum is building for impeachment,” Kucinich said. “Millions of citizens across the nation are demanding Congress rein in the Vice President’s abuse of power.

“Despite this groundswell of opposition to the unconstitutional conduct of office, Vice President Cheney continues to violate the U.S. Constitution by insisting the power of the executive branch is supreme.

“Congress must hold the Vice President accountable. The American people need to let Members of Congress know how they feel about this. The Vice President continues to use his office to advocate for a continued occupation of Iraq and prod our nation into a belligerent stance against Iran. If the Vice President is successful, his actions will ensure decades of disastrous consequences.”

The privileged resolution has priority status for consideration on the House floor. Once introduced, the resolution has to be brought to the floor within two legislative days, although the House could act on it immediately. Kucinich is expected to bring it to the House floor on Tuesday, November 6.

H. Res. 333, Articles of Impeachment against the Vice President, has 21 cosponsors. They are: Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), Robert Brady (D-PA), Yvette Clarke (D-NY), Rep. William Lacy Clay (D-MO), Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN), Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), Rep. Sam Farr (D-CA), Rep. Bob Filner (D-CA), Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX), Rep. Henry Johnson (D-GA), Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick (D-MI), Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA), Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA), Rep. James Moran (D-VA), Rep. Donald Payne (D-NJ), Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), Rep. Edolphus Towns (D-NY), Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA), Rep. Diane Watson (D-CA), Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-CA) and Rep. Albert Wynn (D-MD).

56. marisacat - 2 November 2007

Not just Canada … the negotiations went on for years agaisnt UK French German etc airlines. Across months we took punitive action agsint Air France esp, holding up flights and even banning them fromlanding due to suspicion of terrorism. 2004 and 05 iirc.

With more agreeable governments in place a few months ago, iirc, the airlines now must hand over lists and information to the USm in advance of take off.

57. Hair Club for Men - 2 November 2007
58. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

dkos diary”: Schumer and Feinstein justify their bullshit decisions to support Mukasey. Weak, weak, weak. That’s all I can say.

59. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

Across months we took punitive action agsint Air France esp, holding up flights and even banning them fromlanding due to suspicion of terrorism. 2004 and 05 iirc.

I remember that and now, with conservatives in charge in France, Canada, Mexico and the US, we truly are fucked – as you say. Ours is just a minority gov’t but the only party that could beat them, the Liberals, are in mass disarray so this is going to go on for a while longer yet.

60. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2007

Swing Your Partner, Dosey Do

I haven’t really been following the Mukasey hearings too closely, because, let’s be honest, we need to face facts. We all know the eventual outcome, because it is what always happens with these guys. There really are only two ways this will fall out:

Option 1:) Right now, several prominent Democrats in safe seats have announced their opposition to Mukasey. Several of the Democratic front-runners, pressured by Dodd’s near-immediate opposition to Mukasey’s waffling, have come out against him. Several Republicans will pose token opposition and state they are “concerned,” and then when push comes to shove, Graham and Specter do their walk-back and will vote the party line, “serious” Democrats will fold, and he will be confirmed with a vote of 65-35 or something around that.

Option 2:) This is the less likely option. In a display of cohesion and message clarity that will bewilder and stun long-time watchers, the Democratic majority will unite in opposition against Mukasey. At the last minute, Mukasey will be called to testify once again, utter some language that we will all be told in the press was crafted behind the scenes by Joe Lieberman and Lyndsey Graham (A BRODERISTIC BI-PARTISAN COMPROMISE!) that gives the Democrats enough political cover (but means nothing), Democrats will rush to proclaim that they accept Mukasey’s new clarification, and he will be confirmed 90-10, with only cranky SOB’s like Leahy, Feingold, Kennedy, and Byrd voting against.

Either way, Mukasey is going to get confirmed, he is not going to have to proclaim waterboarding is torture to get confirmed, and you all know it. We have just been down this road too many times. With that in mind, here is the latest verse in the same old song and dance:

From this morning, before Schumer and Feinstein caved announced what they were going to do all along.

Scott Horton:

Several days before his first meeting with the Senate Judiciary Committee, Michael Mukasey’s Justice Department handlers arranged a private meeting for him with a number of “movement conservatives.” Two different administration sources have described the meeting to me. During the meeting, Mukasey’s counterparts, largely figures associated with the Federalist Society, pushed him on two points in particular.

First, they wanted him to undertake that he would not appoint a special prosecutor to look into the U.S. attorneys scandal and related charges concerning political prosecutions. At this point it is clear that if an independent investigation were to be launched, it would quickly run head-on into some of the same figures who sat in the room with Mukasey. The email traffic which has surfaced already—and it is only a tiny fraction of the total—shows how Rove and Miers repeatedly relied upon the Federalist Society and its members to help them out in addressing recalcitrant U.S. Attorneys who would not debase their office by converting it into a political tool. Let’s be cynical and say that the first request they put to Mukasey was designed simply to protect themselves and keep their behind-the-scenes involvement with the Justice Department’s highest profile scandal so far out of the spotlight.

And second, they pushed aggressively on the torture question. They wanted Mukasey to pledge that he would toe the Administration’s line on “the Program,” that he would continue to protect those who authored the program with the cloak of an Attorney General opinion keeping them safe from prosecution.

61. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2007

Rapture Rescue 911: Disaster Response for the Chosen

Like so many private disaster companies, Sovereign Deed is selling escape from climate change and the failed state – by touting the security clearance and connections its executives amassed while working for that same state. So Mills, speaking recently in Pellston, explained, “The reality of FEMA is that it has no infrastructure, and a lot of our National Guard is elsewhere.” Sovereign Deed, on the other hand, claims to have “direct access and special arrangements with several national and international information centers. These proprietary arrangements allow our Emergency Operations Center to…give our Members that critical head start in times of crisis.” In this secular version of the Rapture, God’s hand is unnecessary. Not when you have retired ex-CIA agents and ex-Special Forces lifting the chosen to safety – no need to pray, just pay. And who needs a celestial New Jerusalem when you can have Pellston, with its flexible local politicians and its surprisingly modern regional airport?

Sovereign Deed could soon find itself competing with Blackwater USA, whose CEO, Erik Prince, wrote recently of his plans to offer “full spectrum” services, including humanitarian aid in disasters. When fires broke out in San Diego County, near the proposed site of the controversial Blackwater West base, the company immediately seized the opportunity to make its case. Blackwater could have been the “tactical operation center for East County fires,” said company vice president Brian Bonfiglio. “Can you imagine how much of a benefit it would be if we were operational now?” To show off its capacity, Blackwater has been distributing badly needed food and blankets to people of Potrero, California. “This is something we’ve always done,” Bonfiglio said. “This is what we do.” Actually, what Blackwater does, as Iraqis have painfully learned, is not protect entire communities or countries but “protect the principal” – the principal being whoever has paid Blackwater for its guns and gear.

The same pay-to-be-saved logic governs this entire new sector of country club disaster management. There is, of course, another principle that could guide our collective responses in a disaster-prone world: the simple conviction that every life is of equal value.

For anyone out there who still believes in that wild idea, the time has urgently arrived to protect the principle.

62. marisacat - 2 November 2007

59

and Prodi is nothing but a half dead dog on a leash. Pathetic.

63. marisacat - 2 November 2007

Bombay Co is closing over 100 of 400 stores. 20 in the Bay Area apparently. They closed the internet “store” first, apparently.

64. marisacat - 2 November 2007

Blackwater has been distributing badly needed food and blankets to people of Potrero, California

IIRC Potrero is the community that opposed the Blackwater center being put near them.

65. marisacat - 2 November 2007

60 MitM

Several days before his first meeting with the Senate Judiciary Committee, Michael Mukasey’s Justice Department handlers arranged a private meeting for him with a number of “movement conservatives.” Two different administration sources have described the meeting to me. During the meeting, Mukasey’s counterparts, largely figures associated with the Federalist Society, pushed him on two points in particular.

oh don’t tell me, I am so shocked. That movement conservatives dictated to Mukasey.

But the story is that liberalism is always slowly transcendant. Or that the Republicans are “cratering”… “finished” or other similar language…

LOL… might as well laugh.

66. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2007

Education Apartheid by Design

To understand how education apartheid came about, one must understand the racist belief system that has prevailed on the American landscape since its inception. Segregation has happened for various reasons throughout this country. At first, isolationist views were used based on white superiority and white supremacy. Later, the filth and deterioration of the inner city caused by caustic racial practices served only to separate people of color from the mainstream. Today, apartheid type practices have intensified in the wake of changing demographic patterns on as white parents feel that their children can be fair better in schools that are homogeneous in character.

The public school system in the United States, like the country as a whole, is plagued by vast inequalities – all too frequently defined along lines of race and class. A common question that many white Americans are asking: why have so many Latinos/as, unlike the European immigrants, been unable to escape from the barrios and from poverty. One might seek answer within the Kerner Report that was written 40 years ago as of next year.

As is true in society, the other side of racial inequality is racial privilege. Prior to the Civil Rights movement, racism was easily recognized because it was more overt. However, like a virus that has mutated, racism has evolved into different forms that are not only more difficult to recognize but also to combat. Aversive racism is the inherent contradiction that exists when the denial of personal prejudice co-exists with underlying unconscious negative feelings and beliefs. Unfortunately, the negative feelings and beliefs that underlie aversive racism are rooted in normal, often adaptive, psychological processes. Because of their negative feelings, although unintentional, acts of discrimination are often justified because of some factor other than race.

Even after the Supreme Court’s decision on Brown, few communities in the US have demonstrated a full faith commitment to achieve racial integration in public schools. The fact that these patterns of racial separation remained and will remain intact for years with the recent ruling by the Supreme Court, Parents Involved in Community Schools v. Seattle School District No. 1, is an indication of the paralysis that has beset our community on matters related to race and schooling.

In a society where Black and Brown people are over represented in the prisons and slums, and frequently portrayed negatively in the mass media, the failure of Black and Brown children in school would hardly appear abnormal. Low test scores, poor grades, and high drop-out and expulsion rates, easily blend into the litany of negative attributes associated with African Americans and Latinos/as in America. Such trends exist in alignment with images and indicators of poverty and criminality, drug abuse and teen pregnancy, violence and welfare dependency, to create a portrait of America’s underclass that is profoundly associated with Latina/o and African Americans.

As is true with other social ills that affect the poor, the cause of academic failure is most often blamed on the individual and the family. The society in which the school is located is absolved from responsibility or culpability because educational issues tend to be seen in isolation and are generally responded to without consideration to the overall social context. The extent that any connection is made between education and the broader social and economic forces is generally limited to a moral appeal for something to be done to address the plight of the less fortunate. Moral appeals can be successful in generating sympathy, however, they do not address the political and economic roots of the social problems that plague the community. The fact that there is a lack of urgency associated with addressing the needs of urban public schools is evident to which poor performance among African American and Latino/a students in school is embedded into the American conscience as a naturally occurring phenomenon.

Excellent, as always.

67. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2007

the important word is “movement”. They have one, but there is no organized movement to fight these people, only coopted woven-into-the-party fundraising mills.

68. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2007

The History and Politics of Sainthood
Fascist Beatifications

In Vatican City on Oct. 28, in the largest beatification ceremony ever held, Pope Benedict XVI placed 498 persons on the road to sainthood. They all died during the Spanish Civil War (1936-9), and were presented as martyrs to their faith. This was just days before the Spanish Parliament was scheduled to debate the “Law of Historical Memory” requiring local governments in Spain to fund efforts to unearth mass graves of victims of that war containing thousands killed at the hands of the fascist dictator Francisco Franco. Is the timing not curious?

Half a million people died in the war. On the one hand there were the partisans of a Republican government under a leftist Popular Front coalition that won parliamentary elections. They were leftist and anticlerical, hostile to the great wealth and power of the Catholic Church. (The Church, consisting of about 115,000 priests, monks and nuns in a country of 24 million, controlled over 15% of all arable land, and had large holdings in bank capital and other financial enterprises.) On the other were the Nationalists under Gen. Franco, “hero” of Spain’s colonial war in Morocco and devout son of the Church. The Republicans were supported by the Soviets, the Nationalists by Hitler’s Germany and Mussolini’s Italy—and the Church.

Good ole’ Ratzi the Nazi:

In a Spanish language sermon in St. Peter’s Square Sunday, Benedict declared that the beatified ones were “motivated exclusively by their love for Christ.” “These martyrs,” added the Vatican Secretary of State, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone (the number two man at the Vatican, according to Reuters) “have not been proposed for veneration by the people of God because of their political implications nor to fight against anybody” but because they had been exemplary Christians.

The Pope, meanwhile, has been an outspoken critic of the growing secularization of Spanish society. Church attendance has fallen dramatically since 1975, and according to a 2002 survey only 19 percent of Spaniards consider themselves practicing Catholics. Spain has under current President Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero adopted a liberal divorce law and legalized gay marriage. An indignant Pope Benedict in 2005 urged Spaniards to firmly resist “secular tendencies,” and perhaps he associates these with the present attention given to “historical memory.”

The Spanish state wants to dig up the victims of fascism. The Church wants to leave them buried, while launching its own remembered martyrs into the stratosphere for veneration. Whom do these include? Augustinian Fr. Gabino Olaso Zabala, executed by Republican forces. In 1896 he participated in the torture of a priest in the Philippines, a Filipino Fr. Mariano Dacanay, who was suspected of sympathy for anti-Spanish revolutionaries. He encouraged prison guards to kick the priest in the head.

But as of Sunday, Catholics so inclined are authorized to seek his intercession between themselves and God.

No political implications here, says the Vatican Secretary of State, although many Spaniards seem to disagree. I wonder what they’re saying in the Philippines.

They are utterly committed to spreading fascism, in too many places, in too many institutions.

69. sabrina - 2 November 2007

Democratic Sens. Charles Schumer of New York and Dianne Feinstein of California say the will support Michael Mukasey’s nomination to be attorney general. Both are members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. From marisacat’s post above.

This is the same tactic at work once again. Just when it looks like enough Dems are ready to oppose some vile nominee or bill, a few are carefully chosen to vote for it to make it passes. Schumer and Feinstein will be allowed to vote on a ‘good’ bill next time and a few others will be chosen to cast the unpopular votes.

The presidential candidates are spared most of the time, either by being absent or allowed to vote the right way whenever possible. Although on the Iran version of the Iraq War Resolution (I notice DK and the affiliated blogs insist on calling that war vote a vote to ‘authorize military force’ .) It was a vote to give Bush the authority to go to war with Iraq.

Great OP, marisacat ….

I’m glad Kucinich is forcing a vote on Cheney’s impeachment. He only has 21 signatures so that says it all. But at least he’s forcing them to vote for not holding a law-breaking official accountable.

I don’t know why we have laws at all, or a Constitution for that matter. I don’t see my Rep.’s name on Kucinich’s list. Will have to call his office, for all the good that will do.

Schumer is the one who thought Gonzales was a ‘nice man’ before it became obvious there was no way to defend him anymore, then he jumped on the bandwagon and slammed him.

Re Condi being subpoena’d. She was subpoena’s in the AIPAC Spy trial more than year ago. It happened on a Friday, airc. And I remember people remarking that it would get no press coverage. Which it obviously did not. She had objected to the subpoena, so I think this is just affirming the right of the accused to call her and other officials.

70. sabrina - 2 November 2007

Mitm #66 – excellent indeed. And reading it makes you aware that what is needed is a volunteer organization of teachers, medical personel and other professionals who work within the US, in schools and poor areas, rather than going to third world countries.

There has to be a way to defeat the plan to raise children to be fodder for the MIC and for the prison system. There is simply no point in looking for help from this government, Dems or Repubs. The people are on their own. I would volunteer for such an organization and I’m sure others would.

71. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2007

the can’t do that, Sabrina. Cosby and Oprah say that ‘Merican kids are stupid and lazy and criminal and won’t help themselves, so they deserve what happens to them. Off to a photo op at a school in Africa.

72. marisacat - 2 November 2007

LOL… and then it turns out Oprah has a little police case of abuse in her school, that sanctified place half way ’round the world.

I am sorry for the hcildren, but lordy, she was such a bitch about the whole thing.

73. Hair Club for Men - 2 November 2007

Good article by John Dean

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/057806.php

Of course there isn’t the slightest chance the Democrats won’t completely cave into Bush.

At this point even I am beginning to wonder why the Democrats have collapsed so completely. Is it the Clintons? Is the lobby pushing that hard for a war with Iran? Do the Republicans have pictures?

But ah, there’s no mystery about it. The only reason NIxon got brought down was becauase of the anti-war movement in the streets. That simply doesn’t exist so the Democrats can flow down to their naturally putrid level.

74. marisacat - 2 November 2007

And over and over again people love ot hate the amorphous left, rather than the Democrats. For whom they will vote. And provide endless excuses for… from “only game in town” to versions of “well what do you expect, weasel words from politicians/lawyers/etc”

A few weeks before Billmon hung it up, he posted that the victim, the patsy would be the fractured, impoverished left.

Does not matter who posted these, or where, they are just representative:

Nope, the Iraq antiwar movement has already failed, and miserably, abjectly, embarrassingly, considering the numbers sympathetic to our side, the tragicomic lack of any coherent ‘reason’ for the war/invasion, and the spectacular unpopularity of idiotboy Bush!

Good at dealing with failure, peaceniks? Or still in the “feel good we raised a few people’s consciousnesses” stage?

making the war unpopular wasn’t the point

of the antiwar movement. Success would’ve meant an antiwar majority in Congress in 2002, 2004, or 2006, or an antiwar President in 2004 forcing us out, OR an antiwar military forcing the President to call off his sadistic crusade.

Instead, it looks like clear sailing for warmongers till at least 2013.

Honestly I think Nixon fell for a set of factors, some, or one part, of which was the anti war movement.

The military and the diplomatic corps would have to revolt, by now.

75. Hair Club for Men - 2 November 2007

In a lot of ways this is bad. But in some ways it’s good. It’s the endgame. But it’s also the endgame of the Democratic party.

They’ve been completely deligitimzed. Even though they may win the election, it’s clear they’re only winning it by adopting the entire right-wing agenda.

Here’s a spectacularly cluess comment on Atrios.

Oh I can’t find it but the poster said that “although the Democrats keep moving to the right it hasn’t hurt their ability to raise money”.

Um, that’s the point. The more corporate money they get the more they move to the right.

What gives me some hope is that very few people can harbor illusions about the Dems anymore. Whoever wins in 2008, the right vs. left, red vs. blue paradigm has cracked up.

It’s like when you total your car or the hard drive on your computer dies or you get dumped by your girlfriend. It sucks but it means you can move on to something new.

76. Miss Devore - 2 November 2007

{waving hello to all}

fuck shumer and feinstein. years back, I used to admire Schumer for the shit he gave the gun lobby.

I’m still annoyed I didn’t get the briefest of form emails from either Feinstein, Boxer or Lofgren from the last time I wrote.

my new place is so quiet. I’m located above the ground level parking garage, and the only consistent sound I hear every once in awhile is the gates opening–but they rather sound like an ancient bell.

dog is happy–I’ve been verbally prepping him for weeks about the new place (even before I was sure I was accepted), telling him he’ll have a new porch and a new heater, and he’ll get to see his uncle more often. So for the past 2 days he has seen his uncle, gone out on his new porch, and the heater hasn’t been an issue yet.

I’ve generously sprayed herbal canine calming solution about the place.

77. wu ming - 2 November 2007

while that is true, it is not necessarily the case that that something new is necessarily something better.

the makers of the new age tend to be those who seize the momentum from the undoing of the old age. the dems are on their way out, but i do not see us (however defined) as being on the way in.

i’d like to, but the dynamics just don’t seem that way.

i want to be an optimist viz the future, because i have a very real stake in things getting better, but i don’t see it happening. not yet, at any rate.

78. sabrina - 2 November 2007

Well, as far as Schumer goes, I am not surprised and don’t believe he ‘caved’. I believe he is on board with whole mess. Like Giuliani, who wanted to be mayor of NYC, he had to adapt a few liberal stances, some which probably don’t mean anything to him one way or the other, like abortion. Same as Rudi. But, like Rudi, who tried to change his original stand on abortion, so would Schumer, imo.

Iow, I think the only people who will get enough money and support to win, the Senate or the Presidency, are those who are basically right-leaning. Depending on which state they are in, they get to cater a bit to the base of the party on certain issues, and imo, many times those ‘wedge’ issues, ie, abortion, gay rights etc. are not issues they feel strongly about one way or the other.

I see Hunter is whining about Hillary, but is beginning the process of shifting support for her because ‘she’s better than the best Republican’ etc. etc. What a weakling, like all of them. Assuming he believes the bs he writes.

It’s always ‘on the one hand’ but then ‘on the other hand’. with these weasels:

Name the top ten Democrats. The top twenty? Is Clinton (or Obama, for that matter) anywhere in that top list? In contrast, Clinton has played the far more conventional establishment game, by the establishment rules — while other Democrats have put their reputations on the line on various issues they have passion for, Clinton has carefully cultivated behind-the-scenes, institutional power, and avoided potentially damaging fights about the big-picture issues that face the nation. Very smart, yes. But not progressive, and certainly not courageous.

I will support Clinton as being absolutely better than any possible Republican — and if we truly have an all-New-York general election, Clinton vs. Giuliani, God help us all live through that

What can you say? On the one hand, you whine about how she doesn’t stand up for anything, but on the other hand you accept that you are a helpless nobody and you’ll vote for her anyway.

There is one Democrat in the race who did stand up and voted for what he believed in, but Daily Kos ridicules him. If Hunter had any principles, he’d be voting for Kucinich. But DK and principles should never be mentioned in the same sentence. Principled they are not.

And the Chevron ad is still there. Kos, helping in his small way to support Corporations who provide the means for brutal dictatorships to oppress their citizens.

79. moiv - 2 November 2007

By all accounts from those who saw his appearance on Bill Maher’s panel tonight, Kos also seems to be <a href=”helping in his small way to support Hillary Clinton.

80. moiv - 2 November 2007

Sorry, I’m half asleep, but here’s a link that ought to work.

81. wu ming - 2 November 2007

from a diary by deanander at eurotrib, a link to some beautiful photos of iran.

82. CSTAR - 2 November 2007

Oh hell.

I’m now beginning to see the point of the popcorn.

83. CSTAR - 2 November 2007

er, I mean, the news just keeps getting worse and these dems have dropped all pretense. Gosh, even my mother, a nice bourgeois lady, used to say “Hay que mantener las apariencias”

84. moiv - 2 November 2007

Well, CSTAR, when Kate Michelman was on with Rachel Maddow tonight to discuss whether “the boyz” were piling on Hillary, she did take care to cut Hillary’s throat in the most genteel and sisterly manner possible.

85. marisacat - 2 November 2007

for there to be some “end” in sight, people would have to stop vting for and donating to the Dems.

I don’t see any evidence of that.

And I think Rudy v Hillary is what both sides want. The better to demonise and rake in the $$$$

Not like we are hearing we need a ‘white Southern male’ with conservative family values – not this go round. Nor are we hearing we need someone who “served”

on and on it goes, where it ends………

LOL…

86. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

Save your popcorn for a movie on Sunday, Cstar. You sure won’t need it for dkos:

Coming Up on Sunday Kos …

* mcjoan will examine the shifting attitude of westerners regarding the environment.

* Devilstower will discuss the various shades of meaning that can be drawn from Southern accents.

* DarkSyde will welcome the change in seasons, crackling fires and roasting chestnuts, with an eye toward Deep Time and titanic climate events in “The Weather Outside is Frightful.”

* SusanG will review Susan Faludi’s The Terror Dream: Fear and Fantasy in Post-9/11 America.

* Plutonium Page will take a long, hard look at the Bush Administration’s Global Nuclear Energy Partnership proposal.

* Which union endorsements are crucial? Which are window dressing? DHinMI will clue us in.

I’d rather watch paint dry.

When you check out the articles at places like Info Clearing House, Alternet, antiwar.com, Counterpunch etc, you know you’re going to get hard-hitting opinions about what’s actually relevant in politics at the moment. Sunday at dkos? A picnic in the Democratic park with really bad food and a band that sucks.

87. liberalcatnip - 2 November 2007

Oops. Used the wrong closing tag. Another late nite html fuck up brought to you by catnip.

88. wu ming - 2 November 2007

Not like we are hearing we need a ‘white Southern male’ with conservative family values – not this go round. Nor are we hearing we need someone who “served”

pretty telling.

89. CSTAR - 3 November 2007

Good goddess liberalcatnip, I thought you were joking. Forget the popcorn, gimme the rat poison.

90. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

Funny how you can get banned on dkos for pushing actual liberal ideas too much, but someone who’s an absolute fool and believes everything he’s been fed about waterboarding and Mukasey by Bushco just gets a mild little slap on the wrist.

I mean, really, wtf is wrong with some people that they’ll believe crap like this? No wonder more Americans don’t care.

… So, again — I share the upset of many of you, but realistically, I’m just not going to lose sleep over this. Mukasey doesn’t appear to be a monster. He has quite a bit of bi-partisan support and respect. And, incidentally, he certainly didn’t say waterboarding was “okay” or “not torture” — he just declined to state, for the record, whether is was illegal to have done so the three times in 2002-2003. Which, according to Mukasey, was more to prevent the prosecution of current government employees, not an indication of future supported policy.

Just sayin 🙂

And that smiley at the end just says it all. Just another so-called “progressive” view.

91. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

Forget the popcorn, gimme the rat poison.

I’d highly suggest you stay away from dkos on Sunday. 😉

92. Ezekiel - 3 November 2007

Finally I have a few moments to read to the bottom of a thread and offer a comment. Otherwise, it’s been catching a few things here and there while we’ve been making a move and keeping up with business.

Thursday was a holiday here (All Saints’) and an opportunity for us to have some friends/clients over to the new place. It was an interesting collection of refugees. There was the Pakistani-American father setting things up so that he can move his family here. He wants to avoid what he feels is coming for Muslims in the U. S. Heading back to Pakistan isn’t an option, and his son found us through a web article. Then there was a family just arrived from Pakistan. They had not been to school or the market for weeks out of fear of bombs and riots. We set them up in an old stone house that had been renovated by its farmer owners for a little extra tourist income. It sits on a hilltop amidst vineyards and olive groves with a view of the Adriatic and the mountains behind Trieste to the north. They reported their first good night’s sleep in months. Even the middle class couple from Germany who are buying old stone houses here for investment could relate. She grew up in South Africa and left in ’93. They come here to unwind from life in Munich.

We gathered and lamented the turmoil and collapse in our home countries as we rejoiced at the calm here. And we wondered which would be first to change.

93. marisacat - 3 November 2007

hmm Bill was out here today, for a bookstore meet and greet and sign, at Books Inc at the Opera Plaza.

A reporter asked him about hte letter Russert employed during the debate. Bill said, oh no, Ah was tryin’ to release all mah papers sooner than any other president. We got “caught” doin’ the right thing”. He also said Hillary “did not know of the letter” as it was the “formal” acknowlegement.

What ever Bill….

He also did not look well, close to underweight, his neck thin and his suit coat a bit large on him.

The whole thing felt odd.

94. marisacat - 3 November 2007

ezekiel…

i remember you were in Puglia, but i forget which town you have moved to…

{and hello!}

95. Ezekiel - 3 November 2007

We’re within sight of Motovun, the little hilltop village in Istria’s interior.

This morning is the first chance I’ve had to relax in the new place. The business is on the first floor and we live on the upper two floors of this old stone house. I’ve got a fire going to take the morning chill off this old room, and I can look out the windows and watch as the fog lifts from valley. Later today, I need to split some of the hrast (oak) that’s waiting for me outside and catch up on some paperwork, but for now, I can just hang out for a few minutes.

96. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

Blowback:

WASHINGTON, Nov 2 (Reuters) – Sunni leaders from Iraq’s Anbar province on Friday said they want billions of dollars as compensation for joining U.S. forces in the fight against al Qaeda militants.

Sheikh Ahmed Abureeshah, a local tribal leader, said Anbar needs some $2 billion to rebuild roads, communications networks and other infrastructure that were destroyed before tribal leaders sided with American troops to fight al Qaeda in Iraq militants.

Anbar province was once a stronghold for al Qaeda in Iraq and the site of some of the worst fighting during four years of war. But it is now relatively safe, thanks to cooperation between local residents and U.S. authorities.

“Al Qaeda followed your army to Iraq after they attacked you here in the United States,” Abureeshah said through an interpreter.

“The people of Anbar united with the American army and they started fighting al Qaeda together, and they have been successful,” he said. “So we are asking now that we compensate this province for all of the destruction they have faced.”

Pentagon spokesmen were not immediately available to comment on the request to compensate Anbar for cooperating with U.S. and Iraqi troops.

They must have seen how much “contractors” like Blackwater are getting paid.

97. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

waving at Ezekiel

It sounds like your “interesting times” are much more fulfilling than what’s going on back home – to say the least.

98. Ezekiel - 3 November 2007

#97 – hello back to you, LC

We all realize that things can change for the worse here too. But for now, Croatian politics are quite boring. Even though there’s a national election here at the end of the month, the big stir was over a Slovenian candidate across the border who got 20% there recently with a campaign theme that included “Croatians are no better than dogs.” I was reminded of the thread here about the Swiss.

99. BooHooHooMan - 3 November 2007

Ezekiel – I have some questions on expat Croatia matters if you could explain…How hard is it to find construction guys {masons, plumbers carpenters, elec etc} and what is the prevailing wage in kuna/euro/USD whatever if you wanted to get a house and remodel it? Are there restrictions over owner built vs licensed contractors? What about building materials? How readily available are supply yards etc. I have been reading up on this latlely and it is very intriguing. I live in perhaps the most corrupt state in the US, New Jersey. .. But what is it like dealing with local pols, agencies, building inspectors red tape etc?

I also noticed in gandering on .hr property sites that frequently there are semi detached homes with adjacent structures offer seperately.. Does that require two seperate LLC’s to take title? I gues my question is can a foreign national set up one Croation comapny and hold title to several pieces of real estate – come to think of it in different locales? For instance if you have a gig and digs set up in Istria can you do similar biz in Split and Zagreb as well…One Company or three?

Sorry for a lot of questions if you prefer to e me its “boohoohooman” just like in the post at >>>>>comcast>>>>>net

100. marisacat - 3 November 2007

BHHM

just because I am not certain ezekiel will make it bakc here over the weekend, I will forward your comment to his email.

AND

please do as you feel comfortable (thread v email), I am perfectly happy to have an expat Istrian/Croatian conversation here…

8)

101. marisacat - 3 November 2007

who knows…

Jpost drawing off al-Jazeera report of Friday, on the Sept 6 strike on a Syrian installation

I am sure we are perfectly capable of it, whether it is true or not… enh.

102. BooHooHooMan - 3 November 2007

Cool! Hvala lijepa!

There is so much to learn and consider..just a few drips on the motivation to move and the EU. Some thoughts I’ve had….any feedback would be appreciated…

Other than material survival, If one moves simply or soleyto make more money, then the problem – and I think it is a problem of narrow opportunism- I think the problem is in the individual rather than the “community” or the land one leaves… Moreover, The fulfillment such individuals seek will never be quite found in the “promised” (or Holy) Lands they seek to nominally attach themselves to…

While we’ve been warwagers living on float, the Europeans have been diligently and peacefully at work. While we’ve been putting up shitty energy consuming tinderboxes, the Europeans by and large are diligently turning greener, developing better, sustainable building and transport technologies .

From a larger competitive viewpoint, ultimately US/Israel Incorporated will feel the increased need to squeeze the EU. This competitive advantage the EU has – PEACE – presents a problem. The War Merchant Alliance will not comfit this for long.
I see this attempt to squeeze the EU coming in a number of ways with an overarching view to dissuade much in the way of German and Russian cooperation.

The PTB in the UK are lockstep with the USZIONCO, so its almost superfluous to say that we currently use the UK as our foil in the EU, getting them to constantly haggle and opt out of socially progressive measures that constrain private profit. (e.g. the 48 hour maximum work week)

There are other countervailing options available to disrupt the ascendancy of a Peaceful, Little Use for Arms Buying EU. Demanding increased military expenditure either directly via Mil Contribs to Nato, or by harranging them into buying our Ponzi-schemed deadbeat bonds. The other option to equalize the present economic benefit of Peace on the Continent is to do away with it.

I have no doubt that our carcinogenic Death Merchants here would foment discord in the Region where it can. It has been said the Balkans is presently a “Frozen” conflict. It would be one hell of a thing if the referees in short order calls “Times In!”

What is troubling is that the area is so very vulnerable to the whims of Western Pawnbrokers. We arm one side of a conflict when its advantageous, then arm their adversaries when we need to stoke a profitable fire again. There are many beautiful landscapes that we’ve made a hell on Earth for the people caught unawares in the crossfire. Then we write them off as “collateral damage”. Collateral indeed.

103. BooHooHooMan - 3 November 2007

FWIW heres a comment I posted in response to
Dr. Ali Ettefagh’s piece in WAPO arrogantly entitled

Why Not Dissolve Pakistan, Too?
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/ali_ettefagh/2007/11/why_not_dissolve_pakistan_too/all_comments.html

So here you have a dateline from Tehran – doing what?
Suggesting a twofer?
The simple subtext….
Pakistan is dangerous because it should never have been a country in the first place.

A bio snip on the guy:

Tehran, Iran
Dr. Ali Ettefagh serves as a director of Highmore Global Corporation, an investment company in emerging markets of Eastern Europe, CIS, and the Middle East. more »
————————-

My Response

Main Page | Ali Ettefagh Archives | PostGlobal Archives
BooHooHooMan:

How about we dissolve Mr Ettefagh and his Highmore Global Corporation? “Investment” under the hard sell suggested by the Cheneys, Challabis and Ettefaghs of the world have become synonymous with Mechanized Slaughter and Thievery.

Afterall, as Mr Ettefagh wrote: “It is time to seriously review all of these structures and redraw the borderlines.” I would suggest it begins with the “dissolution” of these aggressive, BORDERLESS Corporate States run by tyrants MoreHigh on Greed than anything – or anyone – else in the world.

In brief- Pound sand, Mr Ettefagh. Think of it as a mutual favor. That way you won’t have to come back whining to the American People later on to bail you out by airlifting your sorry ass back to the latest corporate-thief safe haven protected by gunboat diplomacy… And the American Public won’t have to pay both in money and blood to finance your personal Fortune Seeking. Think of it as “Win/Win”.

In a parallel story, the Post has done fine reporting on Blackwater. Essentially, via ripping off the US Government , the avoidance of payroll taxes on its myriad of “subcontractors”, and access to privileged personel info within the Defense Department – Blackwater has been able to use the American Public as venture capital for a private enterprise to induce, cherrypick and gut key US Defense Personel, all to Blackwaters benefit.

What a joke, the “CEO” “Wartime” Presidency that fails to use non-compete agreements for key personel such as Special Forces, Intelligence spooks, and critical communications specialists….So very many flies are breeding now, like the Princes of Blackwater, the Ettefaghs of HigherPieMoreCapital and the like…All of them breeding on the stink, the necrotic stench that is The Era of Cheney, Bush and the Vichy Democrats. In more Enlightened times, they’d have all been summarily hung for High Treason along with their lawyers quibling over unneccesary words for things the open eye can see in plain sight…

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104. Miss Devore - 3 November 2007

CNN is breaking with Pakistan ready to impose state of emergency.

105. Hair Club for Men - 3 November 2007

CNN is breaking with Pakistan ready to impose state of emergency.

Pakistan of course is *already* a military dictatorship so it’s hard to imagine what a “state of emergency” means.

106. Ezekiel - 3 November 2007

BHHM,

Some general answers can be found at http://croatiagateway.com , but send your email to ezekielinexile@gmail.com and I’ll respond more specifically.

[fixed the link — Mcat]

107. marisacat - 3 November 2007

LOL

maybe it means she finally got her ass to Dubai, so Musharraf will declare state of whatever and block her re-entry.

Life being so dangereux and all that.

108. Hair Club for Men - 3 November 2007

Even though there’s a national election here at the end of the month, the big stir was over a Slovenian candidate across the border who got 20% there recently with a campaign theme that included “Croatians are no better than dogs.”

Who was the candidate, Borat?

109. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2007

they’re reporting now that Bhutto is returning.

I sure hope they have a Spec Ops team ready to go in there and get the nukes when that gov’t falls.

110. JJB - 3 November 2007

Well, know we know why Benazir Bhutto took that trip to visit her ailing mother in Dubai.

The Pakistani leader, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, declared a state of emergency about 6 p.m. local time today, Pakistani television reported.

All members of the Supreme Court were required to sign a new provisional constitutional order mandating the state of emergency, but 8 of the 11 justices signed an order calling the state of emergency illegal and gathered at the Supreme Court building, said Gohar Khan.

The declaration came days before the Supreme Court was expected to rule on the constitutionality of General Musharraf’s re-election as president last month and of his ability to serve as both the country’s president and military leader.

Just after 5 p.m. signs that a state of emergency would be declared started to emerge. All television stations were blocked as news media were reporting a meeting of General Musharraf and his top aides in the president’s office.

A Pakistani intelligence official said that a list had been prepared of prominent Pakistani journalists and opposition politicians who would be detained.

Before transmission was cut off, Pakistani media reported that 1,000 additional police had been deployed in Islamabad, the capital, but as of 5:30 no additional police could be seen. Groups of journalists had gathered in front of the country’s Supreme Court in expectation that judges could be detained.

Government officials have said over the past several days that if a state of emergency were declared, they would not declare martial law.

A senior American commander, Adm. William J. Fallon, warned Pakistan’s president on Friday not to impose emergency rule, saying that doing so would jeopardize American financial support for the military here.

Admiral Fallon met here with the Pakistani leader, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, and his top generals to discuss a range of issues related to combating terrorism, including the Pakistani Army’s faltering efforts against Islamic militants sympathetic to the Taliban and Al Qaeda, diplomats said.

The long-planned visit was at an increasingly tense time. As the date approaches for the Supreme Court to rule on whether General Musharraf can continue as president, his aides have been spreading the word that the general is considering imposing emergency rule. The court’s ruling is expected next week. Diplomats said drafts of a provisional constitutional order allowing for emergency rule had been prepared.

Admiral Fallon’s warning underscored a flurry of appeals in the past few days by Western governments for General Musharraf to abandon plans for emergency rule, a Western diplomat said.

[snip]

Under an arrangement brokered by the United States and Britain, the opposition leader Benazir Bhutto returned to Pakistan on Oct. 18 for the first time in eight years on the understanding that she would take part in elections expected early next year.

The Bush administration hoped that Ms. Bhutto would bring a democratic face to Pakistan even as it continued under the rule of General Musharraf, who has pledged to give up his military post after being sworn in for another presidential term on Nov. 15.

Ms. Bhutto left Pakistan on Thursday for what she called a few days at her home in Dubai to see her three daughters. She warned before her departure against any kind of extra-constitutional rule, and said she would return for a political rally next week.

Ooopps! Excuse me, she wasn’t going to visit her ailing mom, but to see her daughters! The first excuse is so yesterday’s news.

That should be some rally she holds on her return, considering the “Welcome Home!” rally was the occasion of a suicide bombing that killed over 100 people. In addition to standing up to Musharraf, the Supreme Court was giving signals that it might not approve the amnesty under which corruption charges against Ms. Bhutto would be dropped.

What the “state of emergency” means is that Musharraf is clamping down on the opposition movement that was being lead by the judiciary, and that he is probably going to cancel the elections scheduled for early next year. What this does to the deal we brokered in which he and BB would govern in some kind of coalition remains to be seen.

111. Ezekiel - 3 November 2007

#108

Jelincic is the guy’s name, and I had the comparison to the wrong animal. It was cattle. The article also cited concern about neo-Nazis in Hungary.

112. BooHooHooMan - 3 November 2007

Look at how quick this insanity is picked up and spun in India.

Pakistan needs to be dissolved, says expert
Washington | November 03, 2007 2:34:32 PM IST

Noted author and investment expert Dr. Ali Ettefagh has said that Pakistan is not a country, and needs to be dissolved because it has failed to build on the British view of what a nation-state should be.

Not even a fog machine with the .Step aside. Pardon me. Excuse me. Pipelines comin through. Just Last week in the Hindu

http://www.hindu.com/2007/10/24/stories/2007102461651800.htm

India set to join Turkmenistan pipeline project

The context:: This project is the ,ah, pipe dream going back at least over ten years.

From Express India

Monday, June 2 1997

Unocol, Bridas wooing Taliban for $4.5bn Pak gas pipeline

Islamabad, June 1: Even as the Talibans are still fighting to establish complete control over Afghanistan, three multinationals, including two American, are trying to woo the Islamic militia for its support to the proposed multi-billion dollar oil and gas pipelines to be laid through the country

US multinational, Unocol and Argentinian Bridas, fought a bitter fight over the $2 billion gas pipeline and according to media reports here Unocol has already established an edge over its rival for the 1,300 km-long pipeline which would be up to the Pakistani city of Multan.

But Bridas has reportedly entered into a `deal’ with the Talibans thus making it difficult for Unocol to implement the project as a major portion of it would pass through Afghanistan and hence Bridas has to be made a party to the contract.

The fate of the more attractive $2.5 billion oil pipeline, however, is yet to be decided and the latest entrant into this cut-throat competition is Global Data Communication (GDC), another US multinational.

GDC, it seems, has thrown everything behind winning this coveted contract and that is why its president himself flew down to Kabul last week to meet Taliban government minister for industries and investment Mulla Ahmad Jan, according to reports reaching here.

GDC has reportedly made a highly luring offer of $1 billion per annum to the Taliban adminstration as transit fee for the safe passage of oil through Afghanistan.

Jan had conceded during an interview with a local daily that out of the three companies the terms and conditions offered by GDC were most suitable.Apart from offering an annual transit fee the GDC has also proposed to lay down railway track, road and provide electricity along the pipeline and setting up police post at every 20 kms to be manned by Taliban’s men.

Recall that Unocal was bought up By Chevron:
Ref 1
Ref 2

Recall that Condi Rice was on the Board at Chevron, left her ensconced position there for her ensconced position in the State Department.

Anybody who thinks the latest conflict is some Genie just let loose from the bottle on a Congress just catching up to speed, please,….
Save the BULLSHIT:

From the Asia Times:

As part of its initial Taliban pipeline courtship, Unocal conservatively spent $20 million and donated more than $1 million to various Afghan charities. The Texas oil company’s lobbying efforts included providing testimony in Washington on a cold wintry morning in February 1998. Unocal’s vice president for international relations John Maresca appeared before the House Committee on International Relations in Washington to state its case for multiple pipeline routes for Central Asian oil and gas. Almost four years later, there is a major reshufffling of the petro-political stakes and perhaps in the necessary and costly battle for energy dominance and stability, courtesy of the resurrected trans-Afghan pipeline blueprint.

This Chevron/ Unocal deal is hell bent to ram pipelines through Afghanistan and the Pakistani valleys and mountains if need be to supply India and beyond.The problem is that it’s competing with an Iranian proposal to beat them to it:.

Think of a Northern Pipeline route to India through Afghanistan and the hostile Waziristan provinces of Northern Pakistan. Think of the fucking mountains and Tora Borah. Now look at this picture:

The Iran Pakistan India Pipeline deal would have tremendous competitive advantage over The Turkmenistan Afghanistan route to India. and gain enormous competitive advantage by laying theirs bythe coast

of the Arabian Sea – (Pic)

I’m sure the monkeys flying out of Asses thinking is that if a Northern Pipleline can be secured transiting Afghanistan and the pesky Pakistanis, and Iran can be destabilized , ClubUSA would have control of a mighty valuable spigot. That’s Some tall order of Recto- propulsed Flying Primates.

Retro, also, in it Condi Cold Waresque thinking: The Russians and Chinese would surely have to pay dearly for access to it. The Russians would almost surely have to use it or eventually tap into it to sell to India . The Chinese sure as hell couldn’t get access directly to the spigot through the Greater Himalayas. This is why I see Burma as much more of a strategic interest to China with its proximbity to Eastern India and the downstream of LNG and Petrol to the Pacific Rim.

113. Hair Club for Men - 3 November 2007

There have been protests all this weekend in NYC against a Croation Neo Nazi rock band. It’s led to some interesting debate on NYC Indymedia.

There’s an article someone posted that MIGHT be deleted (since NYC Indymedia is mostly run by liberals now and not radicals) but here’s the money quote.

http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2007/11/92460.html

“I am (and so is the proletariat) against fascism, be it in the form of Hitler or Le Pen. I am not an ‘anti-fascist’, since this is a political position regarding fascist state or threat as a first and foremost enemy to be destroyed at all costs, i.e. siding with bourgeois democrats as a lesser evil, and postponing revolution until fascism is disposed of. Such is the essence of anti-fascism. ‘Revolutionary antifascism’ is a contradiction in terms – and in reality. Anything communist inevitably goes beyond the boundary of antifascism, and sooner or later clashes with it.”

Kind of makes sense in some ways. Why protest the neo Nazis when Schumer and the Democratic party have no trouble with destroying civil liberties, waterboarding, torture, nuking Iran, etc?

But traditional anti-fascism is one thing. The anti-fascism of the Kos/Digby variety doesn’t even look at class or politics, or even real fascists.

It’s about protesting conservatives in the name of anti-fascism in order to take attention away from their own complicity. And it’s completely open ended. Just find a quote by some right wing nasty (no shortage of those) and declare that THIS SHOW’S IT’S TOO IMPORTANT TO BE VOTING THIRD PARTY NOW.

114. Hair Club for Men - 3 November 2007

http://libcom.org/library/fascism-anti-fascism-gilles-dauve

horrors of fascism were not the first of their kind, nor were they the last. Nor were they the worst, no matter what anyone says(1). These horrors were no worse than “normal” massacres due to wars, famines, etc. For the proletarians, it was a more systematic version of the terrors experienced in 1832, 1848, 1871, 1919 …. However, fascism occupies a special place in the spectacle of horrors. This time around, indeed, some capitalists and a good part of the political class were repressed, along with the leadership as well as the rank-and-file of the official working class organisations. For the bourgeoisie and the petit bourgeoisie, fascism was an abnormal phenomenon, a degradation of democratic values explicable only by recourse to psychological explanations. Liberal anti-fascism treated fascism as a perversion of Western civilisation, thereby generating an obverse effect: the sado-masochistic fascination with fascism as manifested by the collection of Nazi bric-a-brac. Western humanism never understood that the swastikas worn by the Hell’s Angels reflected the inverted image of its own vision of fascism. The logic of this attitude can be summed up: if fascism is the ultimate Evil, then let’s choose evil, let’s invert all the values. This phenomenon is typical of a disoriented age.

115. Hair Club for Men - 3 November 2007

Dictatorship is not a weapon of Capital, but rather a tendency of Capital which materialises whenever necessary. To return to parliamentary democracy after a period of dictatorship, as in Germany after 1945, signifies only that dictatorship is useless (until the next time) for integrating the masses into the State. We are not denying that democracy assures a gentler exploitation than dictatorship: anyone would rather be exploited like a Swede than like a Brazilian. But do we have a CHOICE? Democracy will transform itself into dictatorship as soon as it is necessary. The State can have only one function which it can fulfil either democratically or dictatorially. One might prefer the first mode to the second, but one cannot bend the State to force it to remain democratic. The political forms which Capital gives itself do not depend on the action of the working class any more than they depend on the intentions of the bourgeoisie. The Weimar Republic capitulated before Hitler, in fact it welcomed him with open arms. And the Popular Front in France did not “prevent fascism” because France in 1936 did not need to unify its Capital or reduce its middle classes. Such transformations do not require any political choice on the part of the proletariat.

116. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2007

Blackwater’s Owner Has Spies for Hire

First it became a brand name in security for its work in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now it’s taking on intelligence.

The Prince Group, the holding company that owns Blackwater Worldwide, has been building an operation that will sniff out intelligence about natural disasters, business-friendly governments, overseas regulations and global political developments for clients in industry and government.

The operation, Total Intelligence Solutions, has assembled a roster of former spooks – high-ranking figures from agencies such as the CIA and defense intelligence – that mirrors the slate of former military officials who run Blackwater. Its chairman is Cofer Black, the former head of counterterrorism at CIA known for his leading role in many of the agency’s more controversial programs, including the rendition and interrogation of al-Qaeda suspects and the detention of some of them in secret prisons overseas.

Its chief executive is Robert Richer, a former CIA associate deputy director of operations who was heavily involved in running the agency’s role in the Iraq war.

Total Intelligence Solutions is one of a growing number of companies that offer intelligence services such as risk analysis to companies and governments. Because of its roster and its ties to owner Erik Prince, the multimillionaire former Navy SEAL, the company’s thrust into this world highlights the blurring of lines between government, industry and activities formerly reserved for agents operating in the shadows.

Richer, for instance, once served as the chief of the CIA’s Near East division and is said to have ties to King Abdullah of Jordan. The CIA had spent millions helping train Jordan’s intelligence service in exchange for information. Now Jordan has hired Blackwater to train its special forces.

“Cofer can open doors,” said Richer, who served 22 years at the CIA. “I can open doors. We can generally get in to see who we need to see. We don’t help pay bribes. We do everything within the law, but we can deal with the right minister or person.”

Total Intel, as the company is known, is bringing “the skills traditionally honed by CIA operatives directly to the board room,” Black said. Black had a 28-year career with the CIA.

“They have the skills and background to do anything anyone wants,” said RJ Hillhouse, who writes a national security blog called The Spy Who Billed Me. “There’s no oversight. They’re an independent company offering freelance espionage services. They’re rent-a-spies.”

117. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

The Bush administration hoped that Ms. Bhutto would bring a democratic face to Pakistan even as it continued under the rule of General Musharraf,

The Bush administration also hoped that shock & awe in Iraq would breed flowers and candy. ‘Nuff said.

118. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

New Mexico: Military personnel to be tested for [depleted] uranium

And it took them how many years to get around to this?

119. BooHooHooMan - 3 November 2007

Re neo Nazis

I’m not looking to move to some jackbootpia, of course, any more than I’m interested in bowing down to EverGreaterZion Propoganda as an excuse to hijack some of these small countries extremeley well positioned to partake in a European peace dividend. At this point who benefits from stoking racial and ethnic hatred in Europe? DC and Tel Aviv and any other US Military and dollar dependent hangers on. …

. What happens, though, when people say enough! and refuse to live in and pay for these Bunker States, and are willing to move to places who couldn’t much give a shit about the external US / Israel neocon agenda. Seems to me European sensibilities have weathered Madrid, the Paris Riots and the London Subway incidents quite well, all things considered..

The Europeans of course are “concerned’ about terrorism and know it when they see it. But as to the shysters pitch for a Global War on Terror, they quite intelligently demured with an attitude it seems of “You Shouldn’tGo Ahead – But, Hey –Knock Yourself Out.”

What happens now that the Europeans no longer are embroiled with each other in War? What happens to the competitive U.S. bully’s advantage when the “Security” bogeyman no longer sells?

There’s only one thing that can rival the disruption to an economy when War breaks out: it’s when Peace breaks out. I see our greed and Diplomatic ineptitude as turning the US into nothing but a nation of collapsing mines and food engineering farms. Who needs “smarts” from a country like ours when apparently we’re so fucking stupid?

120. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

BBC:

Pakistan’s President Pervez Musharraf has declared emergency rule and suspended the country’s constitution.

Troops have been deployed inside state-run TV and radio stations, while independent channels have gone off air.

Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, who condemned the moves, has reportedly been sacked and is being confined to the Supreme Court with 10 other judges.
[…]
A leading lawyer and opposition figure, Aitzaz Ahsan, told reporters that he had been detained as the emergency powers were invoked.

“They have served me a detention order for 30 days,” Mr Ahsan, president of the Supreme Court Bar Association, was quoted by Reuters as saying.

“One man has taken entire nation hostage… Time has come for General Musharraf to go.”

They’re also reporting that Bhutto is back in Pakistan.

121. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

ABC:

Pakistan’s main opposition leader, Benezir Bhutto, flew back to the country from Dubai and was sitting in an airplane at Karachi’s airport, waiting to see if she would be arrested or deported, a spokesman said. Dozens of paramilitary troops surrounded her house.

Seven Supreme Court judges immediately came out against the emergency, which suspended the current constitution. Police blocked entry to the Supreme Court building and later took the chief justice and other judges away in a convoy, witnesses said.

The government halted all television transmissions in major cities other than state-controlled Pakistan TV. Telephone service in the capital, Islamabad, was cut.

A copy of the emergency order obtained by The Associated Press justified the declaration on the grounds that “some members of the judiciary are working at cross purposes with the executive” and “weakening the government’s resolve” to fight terrorism.

I keep thinking about how Bush might have a little glint in his eye (along with Cheney) just thinking about this power grab by Musharraf. He did, after all, say things would be so much easier if he was a dictator.

Pakistan = nukes
Iran = no nukes

Where’s the real problem again?

Then again, Pakistan isn’t threatening Israel so no big deal.

122. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

Medal for Dalai Lama sparks China riots

“In our hearts we were so happy, we just went out into the streets to celebrate. We saw it on TV, the government didn’t know. We were very, very glad. The Dalai Lama won an American award,” whispered a nervous crimson-robed, shaven-headed monk in the remote monastery town of Xiahe in China’s Gansu province.

He was speaking just metres away from where, a fortnight ago, hundreds of Tibetan monks from the Labrang monastery ran out into the streets of Xiahe to celebrate a great event – their spiritual leader had won the Congressional Gold Medal, the US’s highest civilian honour.

Eyewitnesses, who cannot be named for fear of retribution, told of how the monks met stiff opposition from the police, and the celebrations on the night of 17 October quickly turned into a confrontation.

The demonstration of support was a brave and significant display of dissent by the Dalai Lama’s supporters in China and offers a rare insight into the tensions that exist between the three million Tibetans who live in Chinese territory outside the Tibetan Autonomous Region and the Chinese authorities, who insist that Tibet is part of China.

Truck-loads of police and paramilitary police were called in to deal with the escalating situation. Firefighters used hoses to clear the monks, shopowners were ordered to close their shops and foreign visitors were told to stay indoors.

The monks had watched the Dalai Lama receive the award from President George Bush on banned satellite televisions and on the internet, or listened on the radio. Morale, within Tibet and in the Tibetan regions of China, has been boosted in recent months after the German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Australia’s Prime Minister John Howard met the Dalai Lama, greatly angering the Chinese.

“It’s been a bit tense here lately. On the night, the police came, the People’s Armed Police came, though they weren’t armed on the night. The firefighters came with hoses and turned them on the monks. The monks threw stones at the police and there was a clash,” said one Tibetan.

Police reportedly made four arrests, but the monks were later released following a plea for calm by the Living Buddha, who is third in rank in the Tibetan Buddhist hierarchy after the Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama.

Go monks! Once again.

123. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

monks in spam

124. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007
125. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

This blog is providing continuing updates. There are rumours that Musharraf is under house arrest. Not likely.

126. marisacat - 3 November 2007

SORRY!

out of Moderation:

2 from BHHM, 1 from madman and 1 from catnip…

also one in Spam from catnip…

sorry for the delay!

127. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2007

I have something new up:

We’re so stuck. Not a people, but a collection of demographics. Not sovereign citizens, but consumers and corporate assets. Everything that bubbles up gets coopted by corporations and the political establishment. Radio, newspapers, magazines, music, protests … every “counterculture” can be twisted and used to sell something else, even your imagined future. Hippies, hip hop, punk, poetry, protests, blogs … all easy hooks and cultural shorthand to rob them of any power to accomplish much more than make money.

128. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2007

a nation of frightened hens, part umpteen million:

A carved pumpkin – painted silver and sporting wires – drew the attention of police at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee on Friday morning, before a student admitted he had put it on a campus bench.

Police were called to the 2500 block of E. Hartford Ave. about 10:40 a.m. when the pumpkin was discovered.

During a bomb squad investigation, a 26-year-old graduate student arrived and acknowledged he had placed the pumpkin near a fountain, explaining that he could control lights inside the jack-o’-lantern by remote control, said Tom Luljak, vice chancellor for university relations and communications.

“We still are not sure what his intention was, but it obviously was a disruptive force on campus,” Luljak said. “Police have since learned that he was actually videotaping the reaction of passers-by who observed this pumpkin display that he put together.” Police found a recording disc on the man, he said.

The man let police search his apartment, and they found nothing suspicious or threatening, according to Luljak.

“Nonetheless, it caused quite a stir, and police believe it was his intent to cause a commotion, and he did,” Luljak said. Authorities will refer to the matter to prosecutors for possible disorderly conduct charges, Luljak said.

129. marisacat - 3 November 2007

hmm speaking of disruption… Andrew Meyer was supposed to be on the Today Show, think it was Thursday, it was hyped the night before and was a no show, but nothing was said as to why not.

Yes god forbid no one should disrupt anything.

And they have Gitmo built, in several sections from what I can tell… and always ready to take inductees…

130. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2007

they won’t stop until they criminalize nearly everything.

131. marisacat - 3 November 2007

one of the pieces linked to in Madman’s article… a recollection of the siege of the Pentagon in 67.

Things did not go according to plan (a topic sentence that could serve to introduce a paragraph devoted to virtually any major protest of the 1960s). The civil disobedience was supposed to be an orderly crossing of a police line by those inclined to accept arrest. The remainder of the protesters would have to content themselves with standing within shouting (or levitating) distance of the Pentagon. No one expected that, with thousands of soldiers and hundreds of marshals guarding the perimeter, protesters would find a weak point in the line, an unguarded section on the embankment that led to the very steps of the Pentagon. A vanguard of a dozen or so protesters actually made it into the building before being beaten bloodily back. In the meantime, about 5,000 protesters poured up the embankment before a secure line was restored behind them.

There was, I recall, a scary sense of indeterminacy in those first few minutes above the embankment. Blood had already been spilled on the Pentagon steps. No one knew how the troops who poured out of the building would react to our presence, or whether they had bullets in their guns. There was some pushing and jostling, and a few missiles tossed from the back of the crowd toward the line of troops. But one young protester found a way to defuse tensions. Bernie Boston, a photographer at The Washington Star, snapped a photograph of the young man putting carnations in a soldier’s gun barrel. (Boston’s editors apparently didn’t think much of the photo, running it on Page A12 the next day. It went on to become one of the iconic images of the 60s.)

132. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2007

Bring on the Recession

This is a minor illustration of an issue which can no longer be dismissed as trivial. In August the World Health Organisation released the preliminary results of its research into the links between noise and stress. Its work so far suggests that long-term exposure to noise from traffic alone could be responsible, around the world, for hundreds of thousands of deaths through ischaemic heart disease every year, as well as contributing to strokes, high blood pressure, tinnitus, broken sleep and other stress-related illnesses. Noise, its researchers found, raises your levels of stress hormones even while you sleep. As a study of children living close to airports in Germany suggests, it also damages long-term memory, reading and speech perception. All over the world, complaints about noise are rising: to an alien observer it would appear that the primary purpose of economic growth is to find ever more intrusive means of burning fossil fuels.

This leads us to the most obvious way in which further growth will hurt us. Climate change does not lead only to a decline in welfare: beyond a certain point it causes its termination. In other words, it threatens the lives of hundreds of millions of people. However hard governments might work to reduce carbon emissions, they are battling the tide of economic growth. While the rate of growth in the use of energy declines as an economy matures, no country has yet managed to reduce energy use while raising gross domestic product. The UK’s carbon dioxide emissions are higher than they were in 1997, partly as a result of the 60 successive quarters of growth that Gordon Brown keeps boasting about. A recession in the rich nations might be the only hope we have of buying the time we need to prevent runaway climate change.

The massive improvements in human welfare — better housing, better nutrition, better sanitation and better medicine — over the past 200 years are the result of economic growth and the learning, spending, innovation and political empowerment it has permitted. But at what point should it stop? In other words, at what point do governments decide that the marginal costs of further growth exceed the marginal benefits? Most of them have no answer to this question. Growth must continue, for good or ill. It seems to me that in the rich nations we have already reached the logical place to stop.

133. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2007

A Bank of Their Own: Latin America Casting off Washington’s Shackles

“Developing nations must create their own mechanisms of finance instead of suffering under those of the IMF and the World Bank, which are institutions of rich nations . . . it is time to wake up.”

That was Lula da Silva, the president of Brazil — not Washington’s nemesis, Hugo Chavez — speaking in the Republic of Congo just two weeks ago. Although our foreign policy establishment remains in cozy denial about it, the recognition that Washington’s economic policies and institutions have failed miserably in Latin America is broadly shared among leaders in the region. Commentators here — Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, the editorial boards and op-ed contributors in major newspapers — have taken pains to distinguish “good” leftist presidents (Lula of Brazil and Michele Bachelet of Chile) from the “bad” ones — Chavez of Venezuela, Rafael Correa of Ecuador, Evo Morales of Bolivia and, depending on the pundit, sometimes Nestor Kirchner of Argentina.

But the reality is that Chavez (most flamboyantly) and his Andean colleagues are just saying out loud what everyone else believes. So official Washington, and most of the media, has been somewhat surprised by the rapid consolidation of a new “Bank of the South” proposed by Chavez just last year as an alternative to the Washington-dominated International Monetary Fund (IMF), World Bank and Inter-American Development Bank.

The media have been reluctant to take the new bank seriously, and some continue to call the institution, pejoratively, “Chavez’s bank.” But it has been joined by Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Uruguay and Paraguay. And just two weeks ago, Colombia, one of the Bush administration’s few remaining allies in the region and the third-largest recipient of U.S. aid (after Israel and Egypt), announced that it wanted in. Et tu, Uribe?

134. marisacat - 3 November 2007

In August the World Health Organisation released the preliminary results of its research into the links between noise and stress. Its work so far suggests that long-term exposure to noise from traffic alone could be responsible, around the world, for hundreds of thousands of deaths through ischaemic heart disease every year, as well as contributing to strokes, high blood pressure, tinnitus, broken sleep and other stress-related illnesses

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interesting piece madman. meanwhile the whole nation falls over itslef to embrace the Cato Inst. beat down on fat people. But not a word on high corn fructose in almost everything.

135. marisacat - 3 November 2007

Zee News:

[R]eports suggest that the decision may have been provoked by an adverse judgement by the Supreme Court against Musharraf. It is suggested that a written judgement that invalidated Musharraf’s eligibility to run for the post of President was signed and ready.

This would have forced Musharraf to step down as President and make a way for another candidate thereby ending his tenure at the helm of affairs.

“The Chief of the Army Staff (Musharraf) has proclaimed state of emergency and issued provisional constitutional order (PCO),” a brief announcement on the state-run Pakistan Television (PTV) said at 6.10 pm Pakistan time without giving any details. All private news channels were immediately taken off the air.

Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry was removed from his post and troops took control of the Supreme Court.

All 13 Supreme Court judges have been asked to take fresh oath under the PCO but eight of them, including the Chief Justice, were taken into custody after they termed as unconstitutional the declaration of a state of emergency. Iftikhar Chaudhry is supposed to have been put into ‘protective’ confinement.

Poor Mush. He needed a SC like the one Bush has. Get with the program Mush!!

136. marisacat - 3 November 2007

McClatchy has a piece up as well:

[T]eresita C. Schaffer , director of the South Asia program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies , said the United States would likely continue military cooperation with Pakistan because it is a key ally in the war on terrorism, though it ight reduce military sales and aid as a way of applying leverage.

Pakistan is a top recipient of U.S. aid. Since 2001, it has received more than $10 billion from Washington , mostly for its military.

Shaffer said she expected emergency rule in Pakistan “is going to last a while.”

“This is a good old-fashioned state of emergency,” she said. “It’s going to be one-man— plus the army— rule.”

“I’m not terribly surprised at the move,” she added. “It seems things were closing in on him from all sides.”

137. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

!34. Noise. I had to put up with more traffic noise when I moved into this place and it’s definitely been stressful. Buses and PWM (People Without Mufflers). Then there were the weeks it took for the crappy roofers to redo the roof here along with that. Sheesh. Less noise at the new place, thankfully.

When I moved from the city out to the country during the 90s I could actually feel the city stress leaving my system for 2 months because it was so quiet out there. That was shocking.

I’m an introvert – a sponge that picks up energy from everything around me. Not hard to get overloaded.

138. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

Whatever happened to that nuclear aid for India? I can’t remember how that all came out.

139. marisacat - 3 November 2007

pretty sure last I read, India still on track, still our buds and still on their way to nuclear development…

140. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

Mush is just acting like Honest Abe, he says:

At one point in his speech, Musharraf began speaking in English, saying he wanted to address the United States and the West.

“I would kindly ask you to understand the criticality of the environment inside Pakistan and around Pakistan,” he said. “Pakistan is on the verge of destabilization if not arrested in time. . . . Inaction at the moment is suicide for Pakistan, and I cannot allow this country to commit suicide.”

He then quoted Abraham Lincoln, saying that America’s 16th president had broken laws, violated the Constitution and trampled on individual liberties to keep the country together during the Civil War.

Musharraf vowed to continue to move Pakistan toward democracy but did not specify how. He said only that he “hoped” the country could still hold elections that had been expected by January.

Pakistan has been on the “verge of destabilization” since its inception.

141. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

139. Part of the “Arm ’em all and let God sort it out” policy.

142. ms_xeno - 3 November 2007

Alas, I could never live in the country. I need the noise or I get freaked out. We are seven or eight blocks from the freight tracks and I love it, because I grew up only a mile or so from a train station. That was in darkest suburbia, though.

Oh, and back to NJ for one minute. Hair Club, when I moved to PDX, the locals were divided about 50/50 as to whether or not my speech was “really” NJ speech. Of course it always turned out that what they had in mind was Rocky Balboa, even though he was from Philly. :/

143. aemd - 3 November 2007

Via JJB

“The Bush administration hoped that Ms. Bhutto would bring a democratic face to Pakistan ”

Yep, the US (not just the “administration”) wishes for a “democratic face”, a facade, to calm the worries of the world…well really to calm the “market” and the marks. Can’t have the voters and the money men gettin’ jumpy. Don’t ya all worry ’bout those nukes that old second (or third) world Pakistan somehow got ahold of… it’s under control. LOL. Smokes and mirrors, fun and games.

144. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

I’ll bet Ahmadinejad is snickering.

145. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

More power Bush wishes he had:

Musharraf banned the media from publishing anything that defamed, ridiculed or brought himself, the armed forces or government into disrepute.

Reactions:

Britain said it was “gravely concerned” by the declaration of emergency rule while India urged a return to democracy.

The US NSC spokespuppet said “”This action is very disappointing,”

Right. How “disappointing”. Just what the hell did they think was going to happen?

146. marisacat - 3 November 2007

my local news said he cut the phones in islamabad

147. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

Oh, this is rich. Spot the contradiction:

WASHINGTON: Pakistani military ruler Pervez Musharraf’s has defied the advice of his American benefactors in imposing martial law and Emergency, but Washington appears set to finesse the situation yet again because of what it sees as the overall US interest in the so-called war on terror.

The first sign that Washington is ready to wink at Musharraf’s crackdown came when Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice stopped short of condemning the development and instead described it as “highly regrettable.”

She told CNN that the United States does not support extra-constitutional measures and urged restraint on all sides and a “swift return to democracy.”

Good article. They nailed it.

148. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

my local news said he cut the phones in islamabad

Yes…not sure if the bloggers are still able to connect. I’ll have to surf around. The one guy who was doing updates that I linked to above hasn’t put anything up in hours.

149. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

They don’t seem to be too concerned about what’s happening in Pakistan at dkos – just one blurb in a FP open thread. Guess their precious Democrats can’t fix this one so they might as well ignore it.

150. Intermittent Bystander - 3 November 2007

Guardian article: ‘Desperate’ Musharraf declares martial law.

Last night police arrested opposition politicians and senior lawyers including the chief justice’s lawyer, Aitzaz Ahsan, and Imran Khan. ‘Musharraf is acting like a spoiled child, holding the whole country hostage. These are the last days of Pervez Musharraf,’ said Ahsan as he was escorted from his home into a police van. Ahsan, who leads the Supreme Court Bar Association, said that lawyers would launch a series of nationwide protests tomorrow.
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Police sealed off the main street in central Islamabad and soldiers entered the state television and radio buildings. Private news networks went off the air and mobile phone coverage was intermittent. Shots were heard in several neighbourhoods of Karachi, where there is strong support for former Prime Minister and opposition leader Benazir Bhutto, who had gone to Dubai on Thursday on a personal visit. She arrived back in Pakistan to a rapturous welcome last night and immediately decried Musharraf’s move as tantamount to dictatorship.

‘Unless General Musharraf reverses the course, it will be very difficult to have fair elections,’ she said.
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Human Rights Watch condemned yesterday’s move as ‘a brazen attempt at muzzling the judiciary’.

From Al Jazeera:

Witnesses said paramilitary troops had been deployed at state-run television and radio stations.

Residents said all telephone lines have been cut in the capital Islamabad.

Severe curbs have been imposed on the media and cable TVs taken off the air.

Nawaz Sharif, a former prime minister who is currently in exile in Saudi Arabia, said Pakistan was heading towards anarchy and described Musharraf’s decision to invoke emergency as worse than martial law.

151. Intermittent Bystander - 3 November 2007

Guardian and Al Jazeera in spam. Thanks for the Z-news and India Times links above. And yeah, the war-in-Iran-mongers better be taking a deep breath.

152. Miss Devore - 3 November 2007

128–I do so want to go walking around with a large crucifix, with wires coming out of Jesus.And then have the bomb squad blow it up.

153. Intermittent Bystander - 3 November 2007

Update on Spitzer from The New York Observer.

Eliot Spitzer knew that his abrupt shift on a controversial proposal to provide driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants—he announced this week that they would be eligible only for a limited version—would be a hard sell to his Democratic friends who stuck their necks out for the original plan.

So he took steps to minimize the pain.

At around 8 p.m. and 9 p.m. the night of Friday, Oct. 26—less than a day before Mr. Spitzer was to announce that he had changed his mind on the issue—the governor’s office called Democratic state legislators and immigration advocates to apprise them of the move.

On Saturday morning, Mr. Spitzer made his official announcement, in a public appearance with U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff in Washington, D.C.

On Sunday morning, Mr. Spitzer had breakfast at 3 Guys Restaurant on the East Side with a handful of state senators and Assembly members to apologize and, once again, to explain his position, according to two people who were there.

“Before he even started, he apologized for the process,” said State Senator José Serrano of the Bronx, referring to the breakfast meeting with Mr. Spitzer. “He explained why it had to be that way.”

Still, all was not well.

“I wish the governor’s people would have spoken to us prior to him making his decision,” said State Senator John Sampson, a Democrat from Brooklyn.

State Senator Ruben Diaz Sr., an outspoken Democrat from the Bronx, was more blunt. “He misled me,” he said. “I think he allowed me to go to the Senate floor to make enemies.”
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But perhaps the most dire political consequence for Mr. Spitzer is that the move has antagonized some of the few reliable allies he’s had in Albany since the beginning of his relentlessly stormy tenure as governor, particularly within the Democratic minority in the State Senate.

Spitzer pisses away political capital like a firehose. Oh, and like a racehorse, too.

154. Intermittent Bystander - 3 November 2007

152 – (with apologies to Paul Simon) – The bomb in the nativity was wired to the radio . . . .

Now Spitzer has sputtered into spam. . . .

155. Hair Club for Men - 3 November 2007

Oh, and back to NJ for one minute. Hair Club, when I moved to PDX, the locals were divided about 50/50 as to whether or not my speech was “really” NJ speech.

Yeah, the local hicks in Portland and Seattle feel a real sense of superiority to people from the rest of the country, even though most are from the rest of the country.

Don’t ask me to explain.

The only thing I really like about that city is the climate and some of the light.

http://www.pbase.com/srogouski/image/79300582

It’s very different from New York. You really understand how far south New York is compared to London and the rest of Northern Europe when you’ve spent some time in the Pacific Northwest.

Their “liberalism” on the other hand has always seemed like play liberalism, kind of like they’re all fresh off the turnip truck from Idaho trying to pretend they’re living on the Upper West Side while at the same time telling you how much they’d hate anything to do with a place like Central Park West.

Most of the interesting angry radicals are out in the suburban and exurban sprawl somewhere. Maybe it was different in the 1980s but Seattle is way to expensive to have many interesting angry radical anymore.

156. marisacat - 3 November 2007

Miss D

ooo that sure has possibilities. Interactive art… xtian suicide by cop. Cop on crucifixion.

Is Jesus a suicide bomber?

Etc.

I think Donohue of the Catholic League, his head might explode

157. marisacat - 3 November 2007

Spitzer just seems to entangle himself. More and more.

I cannot believe that the alternative of a limited driver’s license of some kind was not discussed in the general discussion before he went out on alimb.

And granted the whole thing is political but gee, the lay of the land politically in the US is the lay of the land, someone like Spitzer cannot claim to not know how very basic stuff will break. And neither can Billary.

158. Hair Club for Men - 3 November 2007

Just watched the movie “Missing” again. It makes me angrIER every time I see it. It made me sad when I was 20, sad and pissed when I was 25, slightly pissed when I was 30, and now boiling mad in my mid 30s. If I watch it in ten years, it will probably have me up in a bell tower somewhere with a high powered rifle.

Missing and In the Name of the Father are the two best political movies ever made.

159. Hair Club for Men - 3 November 2007

Guy at my gym is a Marine reservist who just got back from Gitmo.

Weird, but this guy is LEFT wing. He was going off on the cops in the next town for being a “bunch of racist pigs” and he’s white. He also said “I’ll never vote for Giuliani because the whole 9/11 act is just an act to cover up the fact he fucked up on 9/11”.

I have to figure out a way to sift him about Gitmo. Since he told me about it it obviously means he wants to talk about it.

160. Hair Club for Men - 3 November 2007

And granted the whole thing is political but gee, the lay of the land politically in the US is the lay of the land, someone like Spitzer cannot claim to not know how very basic stuff will break.

Well it’s not like Spitzer had a hard fought election or anything. I don’t even remember the name of the guy he ran against.

161. marisacat - 3 November 2007

I loved Wertmuller’s Love and Anarchy

and Bertolucci’s Il COnformisti, The Conformist… Unfortunately last I checked (a few years ago) it was still impossible to get a good version of it in the US… almost all dubbed or various censored, snipped versions..

I enjoyed Missing, enjoyed it a lot, but it came later in life. Think I read that for whatshisname, he played the father, it ws a political act to make the movie, he believed in it. Interesting.

162. Hair Club for Men - 3 November 2007

and Bertolucci’s Il COnformisti, The Conformist…

I get too distracted by the photography in The Conformist. The scene where what’s her face Dominique Sanda gets murdered should be horrifying but it’s too bloody aesthetic.

163. Intermittent Bystander - 3 November 2007

Hair Club –

Spitzer beat Suozzi in the primary and Faso (sacrificial Repub) and Clifton (Libertarian) in the state’s biggest gubertorial landslide ever (69%) in the general election.

So much for shining armor in stainless steel.

Haven’t seen the movie yet myself, but I passed along your review of Across the Universe to a friend who saw the film last week. He appreciated your take and agreed with your “alternately brilliant and cringeworthy” assessment.

I finally got around to seeing Control Room last night. Some of the journalists’ commentaries (during Shock and Awe) were incredible.

164. Intermittent Bystander - 3 November 2007

Gubernatorial, that is. . . gubertorial sounds like someone dressed in a Mr. Peanut suit.

165. Hair Club for Men - 3 November 2007

Spitzer beat Suozzi in the primary and Faso (sacrificial Repub) and Clifton (Libertarian) in the state’s biggest gubertorial landslide ever (69%) in the general election.

The whole thing about New York politics is that I don’t even try to understand them. New Jersey politics are fucked up and corrupt but I can at least parse what’s going on. New York has so many layers of fucked upedness it’s like archeology.

It really only hit me recently, for example, that the Democrats fully colluded in the pre-emptive detentions during the RNC because they didn’t want trouble in the streets messing up Kerry’s election.

I’ve always kind of understood that Sharpton and the black Democrats tanked Mark Green in order to throw the race to Bloomberg but I’ve never quite understood why they wanted Bloomberg.

Upstate is about gettig prisons built. But that’s about all I’ve ever seen it as about.

And Ray Kelly is going to be the next mayor, another reason (besides getting a lot more space for the money) that I’m glad I moved to New Jersey.

166. Intermittent Bystander - 3 November 2007

“Upstate” New York (to some metropolitans, literally anything north of the Bronx) covers a heck of a lot of diverse territory, including Westchester, the Catskills, Columbia County, the Hudson Valley and Capital Region, farming counties, Adirondack wilderness, and don’t even ask me about the western part of the state (lotsa wineries, I hear, more universities, more struggling river cities, more sprawling suburbs, funky villages, college towns) ’cause I don’t pretend to know. But it ain’t all prisons, by a longshot.

(Speaking of which, here’s the Saratogian on NYS’s current racing franchise crisis. xperts: Get racing deal done.)

But no doubt, state and local politics are intensely layered and baroque. I haven’t a clue about New Jersey’s ins and outs.

167. Hair Club for Men - 3 November 2007

I haven’t a clue about New Jersey’s ins and outs.

Know someone to get No bid contracts. That’s about it.

As far as Western New York goes, Jesus Christ, Buffalo seems like another country. It seems a lot further away than Seattle does. It’s like OK. Ani Defranco’s from Buffalo. Niagra Falls is there. Canada’s across the border. What else?

New York City extends to about Bear Mountain.

From Princeton to Bear Mountain from Clinton to the end of Montauk is really one state. Call it Gotham State or something. Break up upstate New York and give the Western part to Canada and the Eastern Part to Vermont. Take South Jersey and give it to Philadelphia or the Klan, whoever asks first.

More on New Jersey politics. I once got handcuffed and slammed into a wall in New Brunswick becauser I was wheat pasting for a mayoral candidate who was challenging the Democratic/Lynch machine. These people are like Elise with muscle. They do more than troll rate you.

New York City politics? I don’t think even God could figure it out. But I do know that Ray Kelly’s going to be the next mayor. All those “liberal” jackasses who supported Bloomberg in 2005 because they thought they were going to get (Israel Ass Kisser) Bill Perkins are going to get robo cop Ray Kelly instead.

168. marisacat - 3 November 2007

Take South Jersey and give it to Philadelphia or the Klan, whoever asks first.

ain’t it the truth…

169. Hair Club for Men - 3 November 2007

In fact, East Timor seems closer than Buffalo does.

170. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2007

re: the Indian nuke deal:

there is a lot of internal opposition.

Domestic political opposition has compelled India’s government to put off required negotiations with the world’s nuclear monitoring agency, miring in doubt a U.S.-Indian initiative to peel back U.S. and multilateral civil nuclear trade restrictions on India. The two governments maintain they remain committed to the effort.

The U.S.-Indian initiative has fueled impassioned debate in India, but the ruling government has stood by the July 2005 deal it struck and had confidently maintained it would see the agreement through to completion. On Oct. 15, however, a government press release stated that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had informed President George W. Bush in a telephone conversation that “certain difficulties have arisen with respect to the operationalisation of the India-U.S. civil nuclear cooperation agreement.”

Those difficulties stem from rigid opposition to the initiative by India’s Communist parties and its leftist allies, whose support Singh’s Congress Party relies on to help preserve its ruling coalition. Fervently anti-American, the Communist parties and their allies charge the initiative will render India subservient to the United States, particularly in foreign policy. They imply their support for the coalition government will end if it moves any further to bring the deal into effect. Such a revolt would risk national elections that might unseat the coalition.

The Congress Party has convened several meetings, the latest on Oct. 22, to sway the Communists and other leftists to modify their position, but to no avail. Another meeting is scheduled for Nov. 16.

After blasting the dissenters as foes to India’s development, the Congress Party recently softened its tone and appears increasingly resigned to the possibility that the initiative may whither away. Indian media reports widely quoted Singh as saying Oct. 12 that the initiative’s failure “would be a disappointment, but in life one has to live with certain disappointments.”

Meanwhile, I understand that Kissinger and other war pigs are pushing hard for Bush to save it. From what I heard on the BBC earlier this week the communists aren’t budging, and they’re actually pulling more leftists toward their side.

171. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2007

Retired JAGs Send Letter To Leahy: “Waterboarding is inhumane, it is torture, and it is illegal.”

Dear Chairman Leahy,

In the course of the Senate Judiciary Committee’s consideration of President Bush’s nominee for the post of Attorney General, there has been much discussion, but little clarity, about the legality of “waterboarding” under United States and international law. We write Because this issue above all demands clarity: Waterboarding is inhumane, it is torture, and it is illegal.

In 2006 the Senate Judiciary Committee held hearings on the authority to prosecute terrorists under the war crimes provisions of Title 18 of the U.S. Code. In connection with those hearings the sitting Judge Advocates General of the military services were asked to submit written responses to a series of questions regarding “the use of a wet towel and dripping water to induce the misperception of drowning (i.e., waterboarding) . . .” Major General Scott Black, U.S. Army Judge Advocate General, Major General Jack Rives, U.S. Air Force Judge Advocate General, Rear Admiral Bruce MacDonald, U.S. Navy Judge Advocate General, and Brigadier Gen. Kevin Sandkuhler, Staff Judge Advocate to the Commandant of the U.S. Marine Corps, unanimously and unambiguously agreed that such conduct is inhumane and illegal and would constitute a violation of international law, to include Common Article 3 of the 1949 Geneva Conventions.

We agree with our active duty colleagues. This is a critically important issue – but it is not, and never has been, a complex issue, and even to suggest otherwise does a terrible disservice to this nation. All U.S. Government agencies and personnel, and not just America’s military forces, must abide by both the spirit and letter of the controlling provisions of international law. Cruelty and torture – no less than wanton killing – is neither justified nor legal in any circumstance. It is essential to be clear, specific and unambiguous about this fact – as in fact we have been throughout America’s history, at least until the last few years. Abu Ghraib and other notorious examples of detainee abuse have been the product, at least in part, of a self-serving and destructive disregard for the well-established legal principles applicable to this issue. This must end.

The Rule of Law is fundamental to our existence as a civilized nation. The Rule of Law is not a goal which we merely aspire to achieve; it is the floor below which we must not sink. For the Rule of Law to function effectively, however, it must provide actual rules yhat can be followed. In this instance, the relevant rule – the law – as long been clear: Waterboarding detainees amounts to illegal torture in all circumstances. To suggest otherwise – or even to give credence to such a suggestion – represents both an affront to the law and to the core values of our nation.

We respectfully urge you to consider these principles in connection with the nomination of Judge Mukasey.

Sincerely,

Rear Admiral Donald J. Guter, United States Navy (Ret.)
Judge Advocate General of the Navy, 2000-02

Rear Admiral John D. Hutson, United States Navy (Ret.)
Judge Advocate General of the Navy, 1997-2000

Major General John L. Fugh, United States Army (Ret.)
Judge Advocate General of the Army, 1991-93

Brigadier General David M. Brahms, United States Marine Corps (Ret.)
Staff Judge Advocate to the Commandant, 1985-88

172. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2007

From the sense I got of Mukasey during the hearings, if push comes to shove (and it will), he seemed inclined to just deal with the US constitution in terms of the legality of torture which is what Bushco has relied on in order to circumvent international treaties.

He spoke like a lawyer during the hearings – not a judge – in ambiguous language with loopholes. Had he been acting like the judge he supposedly is, you’d think that he would now be in the habit of making very clear statements about his opinions as judges do so there’s no room for appeal issues. Afaic, he was definitely selling himself as Abu Gonzales 2 – The Return of the AG in Bush’s Pocket. Another dangerous man who knows how to play fast and loose with the law when he has to.

173. Madman in the Marketplace - 4 November 2007

the US Constitution states that all treaties are the law of the land. They are not only negotiated by the Executive, but ratified by two-thirds of the Senate. They are equal to any statute. The Geneva Agreements are a fully signed and ratified treaty, and thus have the full force of law. What the Bushies have been engaging in is dangerous sophistry, and contrary to long-agreed upon interpretations of the law.

What they are relying on isn’t the Constitution, but rather twisted law school exercises. In time, if the rule of law actually means anything, they WILL be found to have been gross violations of the law, unless the Congress passes legislation overriding the older treaty obligations. I suppose one could argue that the Military Commissions Act does that, at least partially.

We’re so screwed.

174. Intermittent Bystander - 4 November 2007

I didn’t see the Mukasey hearings, but any lawyer or judge willing to front for this dangerous administration is submitting- on a national level, under blue TV screen lights – to a fast-and-loose Constitutional waterboarding before our very eyes.

Once again, I find myself agreeing with KagroX: Nobody for Attorney General.

George W. Bush’s detainee policies have, quite simply, rendered honest and conscientious service as an Attorney General impossible. One simply cannot serve both this president and the law faithfully. It is a paradox and an impossibility, because this president does not serve the law faithfully. And what it means, at bottom, is that George W. Bush’s “administration” is an enemy of the rule of law, and has so diminished our capacity to live by it that no honest Senator should permit him the charade of attending to it with the window dressing of confirming an Attorney General.

Meanwhile, I’ve submitted yet another comment (on Buffalo, blizzards, and NYS aorta) to spam. I’m starting to feel conspicuously labor-intensive. 😦

Raccoon video.

175. marisacat - 4 November 2007

IB

ugh I am sorry! I don’t see a new “upstate NY” comment from you, in either Spam or Moderation. I waited a few minutes as sometimes it takes about 2 minutes if a comment is delayed.

Don’t worry about the filters catching your comments…, they are scrweed up. For weeks the WP filters sent every single comment of MitM to either Spam or Moderation.

Will check spam again…

176. Intermittent Bystander - 4 November 2007

Thanks, Marisacat. The chagrin is all mine, as a freeloader, I mean, guest.

But pffuck, are there no happy media between Blogsplotch This or That and WordPressed and Scoop (in all its highly rated, not to mention patented orange flavors)?

One more factor re upsate NY – we’re not so far (nor at all landlocked) from the various big ponds and seas and airwaves to ever have lost lotsa strong European ties. Yankee Doodle and the Feathers Marconi, after all.

If the Buffalo comment doesn’t turn up shortly, I’ll try to rebuild the blizzard tomorrow.

Happy Fall Back night from EST! zzzzzzz

177. BooHooHooMan - 4 November 2007

All right- Who Lent the Jet to Fred?

WaBlow

Candidate flying in a private jet lent to him by adviser with a criminal record for drug dealing.

178. marisacat - 4 November 2007

love it! they front paged it…

179. marisacat - 4 November 2007

this is a very fun read… and i laughed out loud when I see that for Martin, MJ was INDEED a gateway drug. What a scream.

Martin entered a plea of guilty to the sale of 11 pounds of marijuana in 1979; the court withheld judgment pending completion of his probation. He was charged in 1983 with violating his probation and with multiple counts of felony bookmaking, cocaine trafficking and conspiracy. He pleaded no contest to the cocaine-trafficking and conspiracy charges, which stemmed from a plan to sell $30,000 worth of the drug, and was continued on probation.

…and he has attys in several states responding for him. LOL.

Fucking money launderers, the parties and the candidates.

180. ms_xeno - 4 November 2007

Re: #155.

I never felt at home in NYC, which is why I don’t understand the defensiveness about size and who’s more “world class” than who. If I’d wanted something as big as NYC, I’d still be there.

Generally I like the climate and the fact that there are more things to do and places to go even if you don’t have a lot of money. Seattle sprawls a lot more due to its topography, but actually I like it there a lot, too. Always happy to visit. Sad that I’ve never gotten to do Bumbershoot.

I don’t give a rat’s ass about where the radicals are. Radicalism ? Would I even know that if I saw it ? What does it mean nowadays, anyway ? Is it radical to move to a Black neighborhood and play it poor while railing against the gentrifiers for whom you are the dress rehearsal ? I meet anarchists running things like the Red Wing coffee shop who seem more diligent and studious about business than the so-called capitalists I push paper for during the work week. Half the people I meet in political circles tell me I’m a wild-eyed freak and the other half scoff at me for eating meat and getting married. Screw it.

Boxes are just for the crap I’m peddling on ebay. :p

181. BooHooHooMan - 4 November 2007

Mischief making comment on WaPo re Fred “Da BlowMan” thompson

Look it was the EIGHTIES. Just to get through the Reagan Era, EVERYBODY was selling bales of weed and suitcases of blow outta the back of their planes.

Why they are flyin’ Fred’s hulky @ss around I don’t know, seein’ as how they could have fit an extra two bales in, … And why Fred is roughing it like this, literally sittin-a-brick–what has politics come to???

Just give the man one of our many military / government aircraft where there’s at least some room to stretch out while officials run their lucrative “side” businesses with impunity… It’s a joke, living in this mute nation were everyone knows that Massive Corruption Rules. Whether most of us can stomach the truth that we waged unjustifiable, Criminal War on a less powerful people we do know it is “unwinnable”. But as A Nation of Sheep, we tolerate crooked Republicans and the equally crooked Vichy Democrats. Appropo of this article, isn’t it time to vote Independent or, ahem, Green???

We know there is massive corruption right at the top of both Parties. Yet we go along, have our Happy Hours, smoke our dope, snort our blow…Great fun while it last but have no illusions who’s picking up the tab…not the folks snortin’ blow in the mile high club.

By the way, did the Washington Post actualy print: ”

“Thompson selected the businessman, Philip Martin, to raise SEED money for his White House bid.”

VERY cheeky. Very well played. LOL as we’re heading towards ruin. Alas, ’twas Small comfort to know Fred might have manned the national bong. But it looks preety clear who has dibbs: Hillary then Jeb. By then, anyone not totally stoned will have moved to the EU….

182. marisacat - 4 November 2007

new htread

LINK

183. Intermittent Bystander - 4 November 2007

Ho ho ho ho ho, BHHM! Way to catch the Law ‘n Order actor, I mean, candidate, between takes!

Cut! And that’s a rap!

BTW, here’s the Bronx-and-Buffalo community action/drug justice link I found and tried to post last night when looking for (of all things) lake-effect blizzard pr0n: Snow Day.

We had assumed that Bronx Community Solutions was the only project of its kind in the country.

Imagine our surprise when we found out that the Buffalo Criminal Court had been doing the same thing for the last fifteen years.

Not even a blizzard kept me from checking out the Buffalo project a few weeks ago.

For the last fifteen years, Hank Pirowski has run the C.O.U.R.T.S. (Courts Outreach Unit: Referral and Treatment Services) project, which links defendants to services such as drug treatment, mental health treatment, medical care, anger management and family counseling.

Buffalo program info here: Center for Court Innovation.

Wonder if they’ve ever helped out any mules named Sal? 😉

184. wu ming - 4 November 2007

hahaha, IB.

185. Intermittent Bystander - 4 November 2007

Thanks for the laugh, wu ming! Low bridge, everybody down . . . low bridge, for we’re coming to a town. . . .

I’ve heard it explained that Buffalo feels more like Ohio than New England. And it helps to love cross-country skiing. But the bigger point I was trying to make about NY state is that the history and culture have long reflected the streaming currents of the major arteries. . . from Manhattan to Montreal on the Hudson/St. Lawrence axis, and from Albany/Schenectady/Troy westward along the Mohawk to the Great Lakes, and then eastward by land routes to the Berkshires and Boston, 3 hours away.

So unlike the tight and snuggly, 98%-white hills of Vermont, New York’s demographic landscape has been super-fluid and heterogeneous for a long time – since even before the Dutch and English showed up, in fact.

Native American Tribes of New York.

The Six Nations.

(And this will conclude my “upstate” barge-hauling for the day!)


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