Crazed little revolt on the castle grounds.. 24 December 2007
Posted by marisacat in Divertissements.trackback
I have no idea what it is, but it looks appropriate to the season… I found it at the site of an animator [to be precise, he calls himself a “professional stop motionist”], Tennessee Reid Norton, and, in the spirit of the season, ripped it off, but with attribution…
😉
If anyone needs a christmas story, a real one — set in America today, there is this border story… via Counterpunch.
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Ron Paul apparently brought up the link btwn Huck and fascism on Timmeh Sunday:
Frankly, I see it too, but that’s one reason that I’ve long thought that he would make a strong run. This country is ripe for a scary rightwing populist electoral movement, esp. since the left/labor or so utterly clueless about offering another direction.
I finally watched An Unreasonable Man last night. So with Gitlin and Alterman fresh in mind, I read this great rant at IOZ:
As we all see lately, EVERYTHING is about the praying.
Fuckers. I hope they all tear each other to shreds in their pathetic scrambling for
powercorporate lap-doggery.oh Eric Alterman is SO BAD, esp in that documetary, that I am ashamed to be on the same continent with him.
UNFUCKINGBELIEVALBYAPPALLING.
Gitlin, by comparison, was just awful.
I was really moved by that doc. I thought it really did a good job of illustrating just how fucked things were in ’00, and how much more fucked they are now.
I’m kinda picking up on an interesting trend. There was a story today on NPR about how the Iowa caucus started (just before Carter ran and used them so well). I’ve also heard/saw/read stories in several places about how recent the primary system is, and how it was originally intended to take the power away from party bosses, who have since used them to completely rape the political process in new and fun ways. I don’t remember this much discussion before about how recent and how artificial the system is.
Shouldn’t hope, but maybe the whole Potemkin process is starting to break down.
And to think she keeps insisting that she has the most/best EXPERIENCE:
Fucking moron shouldn’t be given a checkbook or keys to a car, let alone the nuclear button.
The death of the primary farce would be a nice break for this part of the country. Of course, so would the end of the electoral college, a clamping down on national reporting of election results before the West was done voting, etc etc…
Chris Clarke with a long, well-argued post about how dishonest many arguments, especially on some blogs, can be, focusing specifically on a recent argument about rape:
snip …
Bible incident draws concerns
snippity snip
They’re not shutting him up, they’re making others SAFE. An excuse I’m seeing used more and more often.
Let the mystery be
Yippie-ki-yay fellow elves
A xmas story for computer junkies.
I couldn’t find the Robot Chicken that the illustration up top came from, but here’s some Xmas goodness.
Hell, have a whole page of it.
hey all,
i’m about halfway through the shock doctrine, (if you haven’t read that book, i highly recommend it. puts a lot of loose ends together), and i have just given up any last shred of hope for this system to avoid collapse, much less reform itself.
and the collapse won’t free us either, from what i can tell.
i want to believe, but that hope is no longer tenable.
you were right, madman. just thought you should know i’ve taken the plunge.
I wish I wasn’t.
merry unxmas… i did a moderation rescue…
sorry for the delay!!
8)
iirc think the primary/caucus system that we are living under came about from the internal insurgency in the party, between 68 and 72. I assume that McGovern and others have written about the work they did…
To my mind, with hindsight, that is when the party should have split. Becasue as I have posted and Borosage has documented, when Strauss, a biz wing Texas Democrat, took over the DNC following the McGovern loss, he purged the party of any hint of the leftischer [read big red threat, LOL] threat.
And the rest is history…
I made it over to the IOZ post on defeatism that Mdamn links to above… very good. On my way to read The Left Coaster post he riffs off.
oh brother, it is by paradox (I had thought that slop was from Clinton supporting Soto or one of the others), who claimed to have left the party a few months ago. Think iirc Marie (who used to FP at TLC) posted here that he had left and was going to post at TLC as outside looking in, or some such thing.
Good Grief.
having left them, I could not go back. It would be like signing up for Holy Communion, apologising and applying for retraining for the Joy of the Wafer.
Fuck that shit. [may the reindeer forgive me, LOL]
something i ran across at left coaster
About that Lakota secession…
by Turkana
in which turkana echoes “former American Indian Movement activist” meteor blades on russell means.
former? hmmmmmm.
curiouser and curiouser. i wonder what AIM has to say about these comments? knowing how boyos work, id suppose turkana isn’t echoing blades accidentally. smells like a smear russell means campaign to me.
bay
I had not been to TLC in probably 6, 7, 8 months… and was interested to see Turkana dominates the Holy Holidaze….
One thing about the Boyz, they support the work of the State. “Party” is just a schtick (imo). To put it mildly.
Saw this at Counterpunch on Russell Means and various turning points in the negotiations (well you know) wiht Indian nations.
i read that counterpunch article earlier this evening after folllowing your link to the arizona undocumented worker assisters. i note that the russell means article author appears to be a houstonian and involved in an american indian genocide museum. perhaps he’d be interested in the links.
LINK – BBC
too bad they never hunt down the fascists when they’re still young.
Thank you for the Counterpunch link.
the English right is apparently just as wacko about the “war on Xmas” as our wingers.
More Judeo-Christian ethics at work:
From
Homeless on the High Desert
A Chronicle of the End Times by Thomas Ten Bears
hmm I kept my distance from wampum, thru what is now years. IMO they were, certainly mbw, aka “abenaki first, democrat second” party operatives.
I got tired of the screeching diatribes from them in 03 primary season. Several people tried to reach afds for fuller better explanations, in particular NYCO tried more than once… mbw/afds and “trout” (who fully outed himself post GE/04 in a diary as a Kerry operative) were operatives in opposition to Howard Dean.
Fine, world is loaded with them. I did not like their methods, however
and here ladies and guys is the most laughable piece of horseshit ive read all month. posted for your reading pleasure at dailykos, in a virulent smear thread attached to a cross blog callout post.
haha.
thats funny. dailykos.
standards.
right.
sometimes clarkson appears to be little more than a dolt, outside of his field of expertise. 😉 perhaps he should read that entire thread a bit more closely with his pwecious standards in mind.
that diary is hilarious bay….
I did not follow the link to read the [so called] great trangression at MLW…. but too funny.
well it’s my take that all the teapot tempest has much more to do with bad blood between two political factions at MLW, and the ongoing fights between them for over the last year, than anti-Semitism. that’s just the bludgeon in this weeks fray. i’ve seen the ugliness from some of those posters over the past year, especially paul whos in the midst of all this. he’s hardly snowy white and neither is the tattletale over at dkos. it goes without saying that they both serve political agendas online.
and poor poor fred. they’re trying to play him like a violin in that thread. if he were a little more in touch with what dkos really represents he’d had have the good sense to move slowly towards the exit as quickly as possible without a word spoken.
wonder if someone tipped him off to it via email?
bay
yeah agree all points. Seems former MLWers, pro-Israel types, are doing a number. LOL an awkward fandango…
Too funny. Yes Fred should move s l o w l y toward the door then run like a banshee for the hills.
hmmm wild siberian tiger breaks out at SF Zoo….
past a 15 foot moat and over a 20 foot wall, apparently.
One dead, two badly mauled…
The police are using heat seeking instruments [as night fell] to hunt for other victims.
SF, never boring.
hmm just noticed this at Pffterpoofters…
why are people shocked at what large animals do? Or small ones?
Just because we lock them in a cage (and Tatiana the Siberian tiger was in a passably decent “enclosure”, open to the air, terrain of a sort to walk around, lie about on, moat and high wall, etc) does not mean they like it — or us.
She said, FU, jumped the wall (HA!!) and headed for the cafe, after killing one. Smart girl, she did what McDonald’s shooters do, they go for “where the families are”.
LOL the most amusing part was that for a while the cops thought all 5 tigers were out.
And the cops shot her… sadly no way around it…
Zunes has a piece up on Edwards… dated Dec 26, so just posted:
and a little more from Zunes:
yes… hard to believe him in his latest incarnation of Southern White Welfare OFfice Manager.
Another DLC pro war, social repression lid on fucking consevative. Still. God, it gets so old.
page 1, NYT, Hillary.
35– I got Monster of God for Christmas and have only just begun. The first part is about tigers in India. It looks to be fascinating book in the way that Theroux’s early ones were, packed with all sorts of interesting history, etc, but in terms of the future of predators it is a book of questions, not answers.
His general observation certainly applies to Tatiana:
He seems to want to translate the notion of what happens when you remove keystone species from the biome (typically disaster) and ask what happens when you remove the real monsters – as opposed to the imaginary ones – from our world.
It is notable that we lecture India and Russia on saving the tigers while doing very little to save the grizzly. Pace the breathless reports out of Montana, there are maybe ten left in the North Cascades and we do nothing.
well all four cops pumped their guns into her… I realise she had killed, injured one and moved onto another, from whom they diverted her to come towards them… but I was reminded of something I have read several times about FL and ‘gators…
more people die in FL every year from bee stings and no one hauls off for their gun and an organised revenge hunt for the errant attacking bee(s).
I take your point, but the bees don’t threaten to eat their victims. Probably ladders kill more too.
I was incredibly naive visiting FL, used to take a dip in the canal off the back yard until I noticed a ten footer in it. They really seem to have it in for dogs, much more common than attacks on people.
small dogs and children… quite tasty and easy to haul off the land…
8)
being eaten reminds us that we’re not necessarily the top of the food chain … which messes up Gawd’s plan and and breaks the promises in His book, and pisses off the Baby Jesus. There is no choice but to reassert our righteous primacy.
A Quechua Christmas Carol
Snip
people are fucking sick.
Seems former MLWers, pro-Israel types, are doing a number. LOL an awkward fandango…
Remember, Dhonig is the guy who recycled anti-semitic comments that had been hidden into a new diary. O’Reilly found them and mentioned them on his show. Then Dhonig posed as an aggrieved liberal.
The problem is that reposting hidden comments is not only against the rulz, it’s a bannable offense. Devoting a whole comment to showcasing hidden comments is probably a jailable fence punishable by being put into an orange concentration camp.
So why wasn’t Dhonig banned. He clearly damaged the site’s reputation by providing O’Reilly the opportunity to attack the Daily Kos?
oh these little Ecuadoreans. They need to get over it!
Here we just set up things like the Susan G Komen Foundation that becomes the default discussion resource for the ONLY cancer that exists, BREAST cancer. And we slap a pink teddy bear on it.
They need to get with the program.
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I woke from some nap last week to some GURU GYN on some damned wimmens show who, no matter what concer was raised from brain to vulvar, said it all comes from cigarettes.
Tell Ecuador to grow up.
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I remember that excavation now that you mention it.
Well dhonig has never called out someone’s fuck buddy. LOL…
I did go look at the FP after I read the dhonig diary. Lordy. I see DavidNYC is back.
what a joint.
Looking at the Hunter comments in the Wall Street Journal, I wonder why he’s so eager to paint the Daily Kos as a hotbed of anti-semtism. After all, most Wall Street Journal readers don’t necessarily know what a “troll” is.
They’re using the mainstream right wing media, O’Reilly and the WSJ, to attack their own (free) content prviders and limit debate.
I sometimes wonder if, in his dotage, she will have the household staff call him Mr President.
Re Kerry…It’s hard to watch from the sidelines.
Oh buck up Johnny. You get used to it. It’s nominally called citizenship in the US.
Merry WTF, Everybody as every other day, hopefully , if not realistically…
Work done, Provisions in, kid on Holiday,- Mischief amakin’….
Frankly though, this chowhound has a complaint against moiv bayprarie and xeno after that last thread….
Articulate and culinarily gifted???? –> EVILDOERS!
😀
Still, I’m dazed-
So Kerry will see kids tazed
from the sidelines instead of the Stage?
LOL we’re just a Vietnamese village in his eyes.
Philly Mayor Gets Big Payday From City
22 hours ago
PHILADELPHIA — Mayor John F. Street is getting more than $111,000 as he leaves office, money that a city official said comes from pay raises that he was entitled to but did not take.
Street had vetoed a pay-raise bill in the midst of an election in 2003, and the City Council overrode it. The mayor, however, chose not to take an increase, which at the time would have raised his salary from $146,000 to $165,000.
Now he has decided to collect it retroactively.
Street referred questions to City Finance Director Vincent Jannetti, who said the mayor is entitled to the money. “He deferred it and held back on it,” Jannetti said.
going in and coming out that (Street) was a DISGUSTING election.
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Just at the moment i am amusing myself with this new commenter at IOZ. Such a party line.
Just at the moment i am amusing myself with this new commenter at IOZ. Such a party line.
Although it is impressive how skillfully he/she managed to string out “we don’t have the votes” into four paragraphs.
From Mike Allen’s Playbook column at politico.com:
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LOL quite a few hoots in here w/r/t D Del Russo.
Enjoy!
the LGF post, and thread, on the recent dkos vs. MSOC cross-blog attack.
Nutroots Antisemitism Rampant
funny how the threads are so similar thematically, with the exception that the dkos thread is a bit more hate-filled (runs with scissors especially). its also funny how that operative seems to be able to get screeds he finds disagreeable posted about at LGF with regularity. kind of an operative trick i suppose. do you wonder if he mails LGF the link? i do! lets keep the glasses on and see if he can go for a threepeat.
the dkos thread also reflects very badly on dkos, by my way of thinking. one would assume the management over there would be a little more in tune now with the game that diaryist pulls. this is the second time the diaryist has flung his virtual eggs around and once again he manages to get quite a bit on the dkos public face as well. do you suppose the boyo management will eventually get a clue?
don’t bother going to read the thread at MSOC. its been “carefully archived” and while no longer “visible” to the curious the thread is really still there and available for viewing at some point in the future, after the effortless restore. :::yawn:::
Impeachment at the Rose Bowl Parade
Wikileaks of Fallujah.
the LGF post, and thread, on the recent dkos vs. MSOC cross-blog attack.
What color do you get if you mix orange and green?
Puke?
Innocent Icelandic Woman Chained, Held, Tortured by Homeland Security at Airport
I’m assuming people saw Cockburn on the Daily Kos because it was at Counterpunch.
But just in case.
LOL
=^..^=
mrrrow… mrrrow.
I have no idea why he keeps trying to post here… most recent have been “Balloon Animal”, then “Mike Nutabee”…
he used that moniker to try to slam some internal fist fight over at MLW (who can keep track, s/he seems turned on by Girl Fights).
VeronicatheVik and Shadowthief are together over at Pfft. Could be a cage match.
This particular IP is out of Chicago, a different one than the one she/he/it uses out of the Berkeley Alameda School district.
My guess a faker fucker in school admin. Too much time on her its his hands.
It’s never a good idea to play stenographer for LGF.
http://themedium.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/editors-note-the-ron-paul-vid-lash/
BHHM, No. 48:
I blame bayprairie. She drives me to it.
Total non sequitur:
Finally, a legitimate use for the “Benny Hill” theme.
what a tangled web… from a NYT update on the big bad cat:
…the hypnotic allure of borden’s condensed milk made me do it…
oh no: Benazir is dead as a result of the wounds, apparently to her neck.
NBC News Break.
It appears that Banazir Bhutto is dead. The NY Times is running a breaking news alert at the top of their main page, above the story that reports her as having been injured.
Marisacat alert:
No tigers, whether Sumatran Siberian or Bengali were seen at the site of the blast.
Bathetics related to tiger kills on hold for a day. Or so.
Here is the very brief story the BBC is currently running.
While this could have been done by of any number of people, acting in concernt or alone, Musharraff has to be considered high on the list of suspects.
Anyone requiring bathetics in the War on Terror allies (felled ones that is), Mrs Greenberg is pontificating on the death on NBC News.
They’re reporting that she was shot in the neck and killed.
What a mess.
Reportedly it was gunfire.
On a lighter note: Christmas Unicorn.
… at least 20 other people died in the attack at the political rally.
Cue Cheney.
Gold is up on the news, per NBC News. Or up on other news.
“flight to quality” they are calling it.
I’m guessing we are never to be rid of Cheney.
Like the faith based offices in the West WIng.
An interview w/ the national archivist who tried to stand up to Cheney
Neocon Testicles are descending.
So much for Democratic Castration Artists.
I wonder how they shot her in the neck … they showed video of her climbing into a heavily armored SUV. The windows looks like ballistic glass that was several inches thick. Did someone roll down a window? A .50 cal armor piercing bullet?
CNN is reporting that oil and gas have shot up, stock futures have plunged.
The NYT is now backtracking a bit:
what remains is whether it was a stray bullet or there was a sniper in the melee.
hmmm the BBC news alert used quotes around “died”.
Same with “wounded” in the earlier alert…
More from the BBC, saying she is definitely dead:
Just refreshed the NYT main page, and the headline reads “Bhutto Killed In Attack On Political Rally,” so I guess there is no longer any doubt.
Had to be security detail
NBC News says it is the Pakistani military that is reporting her death…
MCat, no. 85,
I think those quote marks are just to indicate that someone in an authoritative position has used those exact words. I don’t think they’re meant to indicate any doubt.
Well, I’m sure the Pakistani military would know, they may be the people behind this.
Wapo says:
Who Benefits?
Today?…………..USWARCorp + Mush
Tommorrow?……USWARCorp
Gunshots and bombs. They don’t fool around in Pakistan. I guess the “suicide bomber” will play the role of Lee Harvey Oswald. Although if they bothered to take her to a hospital, could the bomb have actually played any part in her death?
They’re still trying to determine how many others were killed, estimates so far range from 14-20.
Also caption at Wapo… so maybe both gunshot and blast wounds?
Local NBC news now saying she was shot in both teh neck and the chest, the killer than detonated the suicide bomb.
sorry to keep posting so many random off-topic links, but the center isn’t holding in so many twisted and weird fronts. THIS sums up the leadership in this country really well:
Always remember we live in a dangerous world.
Pretty sure we are to bow our heads and invoke god. Accept Jeeesuhs Christ as our Lord and Savior.
Or his political representative on earth.
via Balloon Juice …
Slogan of graduating class of the Idaho Police Academy: “Don’t suffer from PTSD, go out and cause it.”
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shelved right beside the battle field tapes that are sent to Bush.
Dennis Perrin:
BHHM, no. 92,
Actually, we (along with the Brits) were trying to get her into power, either by herself or in a coalition with Musharraff. This is more as if Diem had managed to thwart the coup we launched against him in November 1963.
BTW, since what happens in Pakistan directly affects what happens in Afghanistan, it seems appropriate to point out here that this has been by far the bloodiest year for Western forces in that endless conflict. While being fought on a much smaller scale than the war in Iraq, the death toll exceeded 100 for both US (116) and the various NATO powers (114) involved. The total dead for this year (230) is an increase of almost 20 percent over last year, which had previously been the bloodiest year of the war. I don’t suppose there’s any accurate count of how many Afghani civilians have died.
The so-called Afghan Government has expelled two diplomats (one British, the other Irish) for having conducted negotiations with Taliban leaders. Actually, the S-CAG calls everyone opposed to them Taliban, so it’s likely the two diplomats (who are both experienced Afghan hands who speak local languages fluently) were meeting with tribal chiefs/warlords. The Mayor Of Kabul was in Pakistan yesterday, so it’s not clear if he had any input into this decision.
The Beast’s 50 Most Loathsome People
Mcat, no. 94,
So we have Oswald and Ruby embodied in one and the same person. How convenient.
Madman, no. 95,
Remember that Bush was apparently involved in branding frat pledges with a heated coat hanger while at Yale. Whether he did or didn’t do it himself, he was a spokesman quoted in some article about it, explaining it away as no big deal.
I saw three days ago that Sarko dropped in on Afhganistan… think Prodi did as well.
hellzapoppin’
MCat, no. 103,
Yes, and as I pointed out, Karzai was in Pakistan yesterday.
Lots of best laid plans may have just gang aft agley. Or maybe this was the plan.
Just took a glance at the Robert Burns poem I paraphrased in the last comment. Hadn’t read it since high school. The last two verses seem highly relevant in our present day:
My guess and fear is, if you liked 1968, you’re going to love the coming year. All others are advised to stay indoors and find some suitable pastimes to help you ignore the horror.
Benazir Bhutto assasinated.
There were reports that he tortured animals when a child, as well:
via Left I on the News:
Stray Bullets
No reports, no counting, no recognition.
One thing struck me when I went to see Charlie Wilson’s War (yes, I know it’s a Hollywood over-simplification of a complicated period. It’s a movie … of course it is). There were some striking scenes of Russian helicopters and jets attacking civilians from the air, and some more of refugee camps full of horrible wounded people.
That is US doing that now in at least two countries, how ever much Americans don’t want to face it. We are the Soviets, and the Soviets are us.
Geez Rudy, the blood probably isn’t even dry yet, you fear-mongering hack.
Fallujah
a couple days before Xmas I awoke to some episode of Martha Stewart. She had a link up to Fallujah (audio and head shot of her fan) and still shots of US mil (Seabees) arrayed wtih copies of one of her magazines. There proceeded happy talk about painting schools and doing good and then she and the woman platoon leader (or whatever the title) had a nice chit chat about “doing crafts”.
Not kidding.
Probably some similarity to who was it loved rabbits? Mengele?
Fallujah… which we flattened with massive bombing, shot out Red Crescent ambulances, set snipers to shoot people trying to bury the dead — exiled most of the city and erected check points with retinal scans. Barbed wire.
I am sure there is some handy “French Quarter” (Old Town Sunni version), wtih markets, restaurants and Seabees feeding candy to children.
Madman, no. 108,
We are the Soviets, and the Soviets are us.
That’s very unfair . . . to the Soviets. Awful as they were, they never did anything even remotely as bad as the bombing campaign we conducted in Indochina, culminating in the awful period of 1970-73. We dropped 2 million tons of bombs on Laos during those years. That’s half a ton for every single Laotian. And of the 3 Indochinese countries, that was the one we bombed the least! What we were doing on the ground was every bit as horrible. Now we’re waging war directly in Afghanistan and Iraq, and by proxy in Somalia and Pakistan.
I won’t be going to see “Charlies Wilson’s War.” Stanley Heller explained why in Counterpunch yesterday:
Heller provides a brief portrait of the slimy, detestable CIA agent played by Phillip Seymour Hoffman, BTW. This creep, one Gust Avrakotos by name, is an all-too-typical example of the kind of thugs we’ve unleashed on the world. Someday, I hope to see a movie in which he and others like him are given their due. “The Good Shepherd” was a decent try, but didn’t go anywhere near far enough.
Huckabee:
JJB:
I find it important to stare directly into the face of what we are, in all our hypocrisy, and recognize that it’s ME as well, seeing as in how I was marinated in this culture too.
I understand that other people don’t, or won’t. I also understand that Americans won’t see the undercurrents in the movie that hint at what we were doing wrong, and that lots of Americans (including soldiers), don’t understand that Apocalypse Now and Full Metal Jacket are anti-war movies.
106-whoops, I’m the late riser today.
Madman
I caught the film of Huckabee whatever day he went hunting. So christmasy and Christian.
Hubris, gets ’em all.
Mcat and Madman,
I saw that film yesterday on the DC NBC affiliate’s local news show. Pretty repulsive, I must say. They also mistakenly ran it at first as part of a story on Turkish bombing missions against the PKK. You saw Huckabee walking around with this shotgun and heard the reporter talking about him shooting birds while graphics reading something like “Turkey Bombs Iraq” appeared on the screen. I was half-hoping it wasn’t a mistake, and Turkish fighters would come along and strafe Huckabee into the Great Beyond, but no such luck . . .
BREAKING: Mike Huckabee raptured by the Turkish Airforce!
I don’t know whether to laugh, cry or scream:
pooor Michelle, part of the game.
what, the Daley machine AREN’T outsiders?!?!?
Color me shocked!
I wonder what Harold Washington would say to Obama if he had the opportunity.
I lived in Delaware for a little more than 6 years, and during that time developed an opinion of Senator Joe Biden roughly comparable to the one I have of dung beetles: I suppose they have their place in the great cosmic scheme of things, but I cannot imagine why perfectly good DNA should be wasted on them. So imagine my surprise when I looked at Salon.com this morning and read the following:
Aside from that nonsense about “Iran malleable but dangerous,” Spineless Joe is actually making a bit of sense there, and one would hope that his fellow candidates would join him in discussing substantive issues such as that. Unfortunately, we’re undoubtedly going to be subjected to yet more idiotic debate about who’s a better Christian than whom, and whether or not certain candidates are indeed Christians in the first place. If Biden did manage to enjoy an uptick in the polls, MoDo would undoubtedly publish a column making fun of his hair plugs.
Here are some other Biden remarks about his fellow candidates that, self-serving as they are, have more than a bit of truth to them, and probably should have been pointed out by one of the ridiculously overpaid MSM members:
I won’t be voting for him, but it is nice to see someone try to actually engage in debate about issues rather than spouting talking points.
Norman Soloman takes an interview in a direction that Glenn Beck doesn’t appreciate.
Well, there seems to be some difference of opinion as to how Benazir Bhutto was murdered:
If the version put forth by those “senior officials” is correct, that sounds a lot more like what would be done by government security services than Islamic fanatics. But then Ms. Bhutto’s party colleagues might have their own axes to grind with Musharraff, and might be trying to make it look as if she was assassinated by his regime. Whatever the case, it’s hard to imagine Pakistan being able to continue as a viable geopolitical entity. I would guess Musharraff uses this as an excuse to reinstitute the state of emergency, and postpone (i.e., cancel) the elections scheduled for next month.
I know nothing about this source, so take it as you will:
US to expand mily presence in Pakistan
Two weeks ago, Tariq Ali published an article about Benazir Bhutto in The London Review of Books. Here is the opening paragraph, the penultimate sentence of which has sadly proved to be remarkably prescient:
This is a disastrous turn of events for the Bush administration, as even the NY Times notes in this article on Bush’s reaction to the assassination. As it mentions, we are now tied ever more closely to the severely weakened Musharraff, who would probably suffer Ms. Bhutto’s fate if he were to dare step out in public as openly as she did.
The history of the Bhutto family is an extraordinarily twisted one, as Ali’s article makes clear. Any number of people could be behind her murder. Indeed, she was probably complicit in the murder of one of her own brothers, who’d become a political rival during her second turn as PM (the person responsible for that killing was almost certainly her husband). Still, it’s hard to believe that Musharraff had nothing to do with this. His hold on power is extremely tenuous, and whoever won the election would likely have been able to turn him out of office. Now he is our only viable option for carrying out our policies in that part of the world.
OMG
[fixed the link — Mcat]
Madman, no. 125,
The link doesn’t work.
I think a comment of mine that should be no. 122 is in Moderation.
MitM #124
Broken link. What? OMG, What?… 😉
Fix the link, tapping foot….now… 😀
Getty Images page of photos from the rally today, and the aftermath of the bomber.
ooooo, sorry ….
http://www.peta.org/feat/holidaysnowglobe/?celeb=Anna_Wintour
The media is a co-conspirator in a con, the Iowa caucuses.
That sentence in bold sums up the problem with so much of how things are done in this country. It’s the reason we’re assaulted with sports metaphors all the fucking time.
“‘this is the game, these are the rules of the game, and don’t argue about the rules in the middle of the game.”
So shut up and play, or sit in the stands … in either case, shut up.
Creeping Fascism: History’s Lessons
McGovern starts out with a rundown of the spying on US citizens that has been pursued by our gov’t over the last several years, then ties it back to a book by Sebastian Haffner which was published postumously by his family. He was a young lawyer when the Nazis took over Germany:
Creeping Fascism: History’s Lessons
McGovern starts out with a rundown of the spying on US citizens that has been pursued by our gov’t over the last several years, then ties it back to a book by Sebastian Haffner which was published postumously by his family. He was a young lawyer when the Nazis took over Germany:
Just stopped by Little Orange Footballs to see whether or not the Bhutto assassination was resonating at all in that hermetically sealed echo chamber. Not a single front page post regarding it. There is, however, a recommended diary. Topping the list in that feature, incidentally, is an Extremely Important Diary from Maximum Leader entitled “Taking a hard line on ratings wars”:
That’s it, in its entirety. One more purge. Can’t ever have enough of those.
Other exciting Recommended Diaries include “Obama’s brilliant new stump speech,” “Edwards Closing Ads,” and “This diary sucks, but you’ll recommend it anyway.”
The Bush Administration has, for the most part, responded to the Bhutto assassination by spouting the verbal equivalent of watery oatmeal (“The United States strongly condemns this cowardly act by murderous extremists who are trying to undermine Pakistan’s democracy,” burbled Boy George, “The deadly results of this attack will no doubt test the will and patience of the people of Pakistan,” blathered Condi), but one comment by Scott Stanzel, the Administration’s Designated Liar, caught my attention:
I have been surfing the Web all day for news about this, and I have yet to see one reference to anyone, including al-Qaida, claiming responsibility for Ms. Bhutto’s murder. In fact, the latest BBC story says specifically that no one has yet done so. And the NY Times is still stating that anonymous party colleagues of Ms. Bhutto are claiming that she was shot by a sniper operating from a building prior to the explosion. If this is the case, the shooter could obviously not be the suicide bomber, if indeed there was a suicide bomber.
Details here.
Getty photog witnessed the attack:
CNN is showing video of riots and burning cars (for what it’s worth … I trust nothing on face value from them).
Madman, no. 135,
The riots have been reported on the BBC website. All too believable, I’d be shocked if there weren’t a good deal of violence. This business about the motorcycle is a new wrinkle, and it seems unlikely such a person would have been the shooter.
Eyescapes.
sorry for the delay, let
Madman and
JJB (2 I think) out of Moderation…
fixed Madman’s link…
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FWIW, the following update can be found at the Global Affairs blog:
“aftermath: Riots are being reported in various cities. Rawalpindi is in chaos. Cable and cell phone services has been suspended in most of the country. Rumors are flying of curfews. No word from Musharraf, yet.”
The video I have seen of Ms. Bhutto’s casket being carried by her supporters suggest that there is going to be an enormous reaction to this all through the night and tomorrow as well. Apparently, there was a gun battle between supporters of Nawaz Sharif, the other main opposition leader and either the police or another political party. Several people were killed as a result of that.
CNN and Pakistans ambassador are pushing the Al Queda thing really, REALLY hard, as is that retired Army general on MSNBC.
Gotta turn it off for a while. Tired of the endless spinning and promotion of American militarism.
135– There is this this. One phone call.
Breathlessly reported at orange by Pumpkinlove
“Unthinkable”? really? Come on, who didn’t see the headline today and know it was only a matter of time. Is anyone — ANYONE — at all surprised that Bhutto is dead?
It’s almost like all of this stuff has been foreordained. I mean, the whole past six years (at least) has unfolded as predictably as your average afternoon serial.
And so is the coming
depressionrecession. And the ineffectual presidential term that will soon be upon us.new thread…………..
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