Here a coalition, there a coalition… 11 February 2008
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, Beirut, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iran, Iraq War, Israel/AIPAC, WAR!.trackback
Anti war protestor
The jackhammers have returned… [strangle] so I am splitting the difference and making use of a really good diary from Market Trustee, looking at the split coalition issues in this series of primaries and caucuses between O and H… MT offers some interesting choices for resolution, on BO’s part…
oh that split coalition, he’s got some, she’s got some… and this is yet again a nasty run… is giving the party some daytime nightmares. 😉
Just links, as these are not new (from the time of his AIPAC speech last year), but this is a good place to park them…. How Obama left the Middle Easterners in his district, and their issues, behind… and moved on to seek succor from Jewish donors.
How Barack Obama learned to love Israel
Ali Abunimah, The Electronic Intifada, 4 March 2007
Barack Obama’s Middle East Surge
by James Cross / March 4th 2007
It’s an old story. They’ve all got their bended knee obeisance to AIPAC/Israel on the record – hell, they flew Kerry out to Masada so he could pledge his fealty at dawn… doesn’t make it RIGHT tho.
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Marisacat 
LOL Jebbie! endorsed McCain:
LOL he’s a BOY SCOUT! Determined, devoted, steadfast and! he will win the war agaisnt the Islamofascists.
Lights fires in the forest, as needed…………….
John “Lucy” Conyers holds the football again for the Charlie Brown activists to try and kick:
Give him a gold watch. Call it over.
Woo hoo! Senator Jeebus is coming to spread His gospel throughout the cheese state!
Oh, and the former First Child was in WI today
being pimpedrepresenting… ummmm … sorta kinda answering random questions at heavily promoted events about her mama’s campaign to be Commander in Chief of Bombing Brown People, or somesuch.Perfectly innocent, you know, and not to be questioned or mentioned in a tasteless manner, of course, because we shouldn’t impinge on her privacy just because her parents happened to destroy banking regulations and the social safety net.
No indeeedy.
For Clinton, Ohio and Texas Emerge as Key States to Win
I nominate this artifact as a symbol for what this year’s election represents.
there is an unconfirmed rumor over at TPMEC that John Glenn may endorse her.
John Glenn is still alive?
RFLMAO
Make sure to watch for the sign language interpreter.
Make sure to watch for the sign language interpreter.
Oh God that was funny. McCain might actually be entertaining to watch go down in flames.
Dennis Perrin says goodbye to Roy Scheider in the only way that makes sense.
Boy I loved that movie.
“I think it would be disrespectful to Wisconsin voters” if both candidates for the party’s presidential nomination do not appear side-by-side
I just have to say, What a bunch of babies.
Where I live, the candidates NEVER come. Never. Ever. Ever. We’re lucky if we get their vice press secretary.
We got precisely one national candidate to show up in the last 30 years (that was Bill Clinton for 10 minutes in 1992). We didn’t even get “our own” Hillary this year.
And yet, somehow, we trudge off the polls and survive without being gladhanded, babykissed, flapjacked and serenaded about “Hope” until our eyes mist over.
F— you, babykins.
Where I live, the candidates NEVER come. Never. Ever. Ever. We’re lucky if we get their vice press secretary.
Reagan spoke at my high school in 1984.
Chris Floyd got some blowback from the wingers on his piece about Romney’s demagoguery last week. His response?
Psycho Backlash: When Lackeys Attack
Thanks Madman… I saw that movie on HBO like 25 years ago! That was a great number and a character actor like Roy Scheider would never have been cast in that kind of role today.
F— you, babykins.
Well said!
I don’t want them tromping around downtown messing up the bus routes and riling up the local wingers and Obama acolytes. Please, stay the fuck away, both of you. I’ve heard all of your lies/marketing pitches already.
a character actor like Roy Scheider would never have been cast in that kind of role today
They’d stick some American Idol winner or something in the role.
Or, at best, Johnny Depp.
I’m not a huge fan of musicals. I can suspend my disbelief at bad special effects and monster suits, but somehow bunches of people suddenly bursting into elaborate song-and-dance routines usually bores the the shit out of me, but I loved “All That Jazz”.
Then again, I have a soft spot for “Jesus Christ Superstar” too, so take my opinion of musicals with a very large grain of salt.
Apparently Hillary doesn’t remember what happened when Gary Hart said something similarly stupid
they all come here. For money. Ties up the roadways and freeways.
well then they ALL promise the most honest accountable responsible adminsitration since oh … some Eqyptian dynasty.
I gritted my teeth when Bill promised it, again when poor dumb Nancy promised it (that was really hilarious, it was obvious they were desperate to loot at the helm).
If Obama makes it, he will too. For surrrrrrrrrrrrrre.
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ENDLESS Lantos drivel on teh evening news…..
Very funny interview with a 21 year old superdelegate on the Dan Abrams show. He’s gotten calls from Bill Clinton and Kerry and had lunch with Chelsea. He sounds like Peter Beinart when you’re not looking at the TV screen.
Whatever happened to Cardinal Bernard Law?
Ugh.
oh yes law was immediately grandly rescued, to St Mary major… a tremendous and wonderful basilica, built over an ancient worship site … to … forget now, which ever of the old religion women goddesses.
A very soft and protected life.
And as troops of robbers wait for a man, so the company of priests murder in the way by consent: for they commit lewdness.
Hosea Chaper 6: 9
I don’t consider ‘All that Jazz’ a musical, so much as a movie about musicals. The first time I saw it was late night on a local Philly station during college, while, ahem, consuming many substances. Brilliant.
M. J. Smith at SMBIVA pays … ummmm …. tribute to Lantos.
LOL and catch the first comment to the tribute:
Bingo.
good stuff.
lol…that McCain video was funny. Thanks for posting the link. 🙂
yvw!
18. On musicals: I feel the same way you do. Musicals are not my thing (although sometimes I wish people out there in the real world would suddenly all burst into song just to confirm my suspicions that they’re all a bunch of loons). And I liked JC Superstar too. Used to sing it with my best friend in school and we’d pour it on at her house as we traipsed all over the living room furniture “acting” it out when her parents were still at work. Other than that one, I just cringe throughout musicals. Chicago, the only one that I chose to watch recently, just about did me in. It was agonizing.
Very funny interview with a 21 year old superdelegate on the Dan Abrams show.
I saw that and I was thinking ‘Hmmm…I’ll bet that’s why Bowers is ready to slit his wrists…no one ever chose him to be a super-delegate and just look at that dork.’
Oh – another musical I liked was Phantom of the Paradise. 😉
Oh, I hated Chicago.
My favorite more modern musical is Hedwig and the Angry Inch. That show rocks.
Paul Williams was just so … well, so SOMETHING in Phantom of the Paradise.
LOL it’s hard out there for a post-racialist!
Angry Inch
I think I’m now officially the gayest straight man on this blog.
Hedwig and the Angry Inch
Never heard of it but I’ll take your word for it and check it out.
I saw that and I was thinking ‘Hmmm…I’ll bet that’s why Bowers is ready to slit his wrists…no one ever chose him to be a super-delegate and just look at that dork.’
That kid was a pretty good interview, especially with Abrams, Michelle Cottle and Beinart snarling their condescending remarks at him.
Hedwig and the Angry Inch
I saw it in its original run back in the 90s next to a flop house in the Village. It had its moments.
Hedwig is great. I was actually asked if I was interested in being the guitarist with the group that is currently doing the national tours… alas, had to turn it down. Not enough $$ to quit my jobs.
catnip
Just to warn you, you have to LOVE glam and punk to enjoy Hedwig.
btw – Hedwig was written almost as an ongoing workshop at the famous Don Hill’s gay/punk night Squeezebox in the early ’90’s… Always fun times.
Just to warn you, you have to LOVE glam and punk to enjoy Hedwig.
Well, I don’t know if “LOVE” describes how I feel about them but I’ll still check it out. 😉
That kid was a pretty good interview,
He was okay and yes they were condescending but he just seemed like such a nerd. 😉
He was okay and yes they were condescending but he just seemed like such a nerd.
Well, he stood up to the considerable charms of the Royal Clinton Daughter without breaking.
Come on. If you were on live TV with Peter Beinart wouldn’t you be tempted to go off on an anti-Beinart rant?
“What the fuck are you even doing on TV? What are your qualifications to be on the fucking Council of Foreign Relations? Oh, that you were in favor of invading Iraq then changed your mind? Dork. Why don’t you get an honest job and dig ditches or something?”
I don’t think the young super-delegate ever uses the word “fuck”.
You just know that he’s going to be running for something some day in the future.
As for Chelsea’s “charms”. I’ll bet the poor guy is still waiting for his first big date (or maybe that was it). 😉
I’d be tempted to spit in his face, myself.
Love Hedwig, and love good musicals, good dramas, good comedies. Can’t just say i don’t like an entire category of film, i like the good stuff of every genre, the same with books.
John Cameron Mitchell’s follow-up to Hedwig was called Shortbus and it’s wonderful too, although incredibly sexually frank which is rare for the US, usually just mindless titillation.
How did Scalia ever manage to become a supreme? Sheesh.
ugh Scalia. IIRC his son Dino supports JMcC.
clammyc complains that what’s going on in Iraq isn’t getting enough coverage at dkos and this conversation ensues in the comments.
That could be in a mastercard commercial…
54 — If a meteor took out Tokyo and sent a 300 foot tsunami towards the west coast those idiots would still continue the same conversation.
so delicious… on Sarkozy and his downfall thru the 8 months since election….
so, i get home turn on the toob, tune into cspan and the house oversight committee is investigating besbol. my lord. what a pathetic waste of time and money.
the money the owners pay to aquire the talent that brings them the tens of millions of dollars, the publicly funded stadiums, the luxury boxes their bank accounts feed off of, and whose businesses are protected from the anti-trust acts by an acts of congress, has resulted in a competition so intense that most of the players will do anything to keep the paychecks coming in. some actually take performance enhancing drugs.
well who the hell wouldn’t at least be tempted? beats picking cotton. and it isnt’ as if its baseball is anything other than a past-time.
i could care less if roger clemens shoots smack before he climbs the mound, or nods off between innings. more power to him. but today the real criminals in this country, our congress, are on my tv right now passing “moral” judgement on a bunch of jocks who haven’t really harmed anyone, other than possibly themselves. as if congress isn’t much more corrupt.
if they really wanted to get to the root of the matter, put the OWNERS up on the stand and determine WHY they look the other way.
if they really wanted to get to the root of the matter, put the OWNERS up on the stand and determine WHY they look the other way.
agree… it came out here that Magowan (Safeway chains of supermarkets, among other things) who owns the whateveritiscalled here in SF did indeed know that Bonds used. In fact at some point in the past he admitted it to SF Chronicle sprts reporters. The paper then got a letter from the lawyers the next day clarifying his comments. And the record of the interview was amended.
Believe me I know nothing about sports but since the whole Bonds / Balco story spooled out here for years, inevitably I paid attention.
hey hey catnip. anytime i need to remember not to take anything clammyc says too seriously i re-read this post from a little less than a year ago.
Keep Pushing that Overton Window, Senator Reid
by clammyc
Tue Apr 3rd, 2007 at 10:48:37 AM EST
there’s not a word in clammyc’s piece today about his own democratic party’s complicity in the continuation of the war in the intervening time between today and his puff-piece-post almost a year ago. i really get the sense clammyc complains, and/or cheerleads, about whatever he thinks will get him on the reclist.
but then i’m just too cynical, aren’t i?
”Keep your whining and moaning up, Mr. Bush and we just may cut off funding altogether”.
I obviously need to cut down on my blinking. I missed that tiny moment in time.
55. melvin, rofl – too true.
I saw a bit of Larry King’s interview with Michelle Obama. I wonder if she gets just how similar in tone and manner she is to Hillary. Quite stern.
I see the NYT is towing the Bush administration’s line about the war in Afghanistan. It just never ends.
This NYT article about how Obama’s campaign is handling the race issue bothers me – leaving me with the distinct impression that he has chosen (despite his advisors saying he really doesn’t have any kind of overall racial strategy) to woo AA voters quietly while he lets people like his wife (whose background is more similar to many AAs’ experiences) and Al Sharpton (one of what Shelby Steele calls the “challengers”) get out there and front for him with the AA community (lest he scare away white voters).
I don’t know…how do you – black, white or purple – look at the situation in Jena and then step back because you don’t want to “politicize” it? It was already politicized.
When I look at that, I see a politician who’s calculating what it’s going to take for him to win the most votes – not someone who’s all that concerned about civil rights, injustice and racism.
Just another person playing the game…using others to do the heavy lifting. Dawg forbid he was actually principled enough to be honest about what was going on – wouldn’t look good and, in politics, appearences are everything.
That just left a bad taste in my mouth – not that’s it’s surprising. I’m just sick of the fucking games politicians play to win.
Oh wow! I REALLY screwed up that late nite html. Sorry, mcat!
LOL … “Queen of the sock puppets”
There’s only one possible running mate for Obama then… Stephen Colbert! He doesn’t see color.
Wasn’t there a ‘draft Colbert’ movement not too long ago?
Per Josh Marshall on voting in the Senate today:
“The biggie, of course, is the Dodd/Feingold amendment to strip retroactive telecom immunity from the bill.”
LOL If you liked the 110th………….. hold on more to come … via TPM
Josh has a couple of caucus goers for Obama check in.. one from Tacoma and one from MN.
I defy anyone who is not a party insider to figure it out. Caucuses are devised to benefit the party structure and whoever wo/mans the ship, so to speak. HORRIBLE:
Link to the TPM Tacoma WA version of the above, it is longer so I won’t cut and paste it…
Every single one of those Republican traitors and Democratic corporate whores should be horsewhipped in full public view for the vote on the Dodd-Feingold amendment.
and that is only a partial list.
NEXT congress should be even more fun. More Democrats (or more Republicans) means more conservatives. It is reaching historic levels of R retirement. Oooo more conservatives! Coming right up, different party badge…
Including one in the WH.
The American people seem irritable but over all fine with it.
Obama’s supporters tended to cast their ballots and go, and thus Clinton people, often longtime local party activists, were given the nod for just being willing to take on the responsibility
So why don’t Obama supporters stick around a little longer, then?
Sounds to me like the Clinton people are willing to.
And then DiFi’s amendment was shot down without the 60 votes needed, poor bi-partisan R in Dems clothing Feinstein doesn’t support the Feingold wing (is it big enough to be a wing or is just some feathers) of the Party.
Chris Floyd links to and discusses this excellent on the hell we have reduced Somalia to. I’ll limit myself to quoting this one short passage, because it succinctly states what should be obvious to anyone with a triple-digit IQ and a conscience:
NYCO, no. 73,
Presumably, the Obama people have other responsibilities that preclude their spending all day and night at these ridiculous caucuses. Also, note that the Clinton people aren’t admitting they’ve backed a particular candidate. If they were more forthcoming, the Obama people might not assume they can safely leave and have their vote count for what it’s supposed to. It’s easy to imagine some undercover operatives saying to people “don’t worry about the grunt work, we’ll stick around and take care of it, you folks have voted, no need to stick around and waste time.”
I used the TPM reports as they were succinct… but i have read many reports, esp from WA as ti si caucusing for the first time.
One report I read, people were lining up… one of about a group of 8 went to the head to where the tables were, grabbed the “preference” forms and brought them back to the line. They ALL filled them out for obama, dropped them off at the head table… and then LEFT.
The party wants caucuses in place, imo, for down the road, years and cycles to come. They luv caucuses.
And now lots of newcomers who love Obama will love caucuses.
Swelll… LOL… so relieved I do nto care anymroe.
I had not seen inside a caucus room til Cspan covered two in Iowa in 2004…. a big one in a sort of gym and a little neighborhood one (literally tea and cookies) …. hours long, noisy (the big one) stifling (the little one).
The lady with the little one ws too damned doddery (to be blunt) to be counting preferences, no matter how long she had done it.
The bigger caucus was damned fuckign party thugs.
I did nto even bother to post about it (tho others did at Dkos with the same reactions) as you know if you supported Dean you were a nut.
UN DEMOCRATIC.
During the night I read, somewhere or other, that we had CIA “advisors” (which I would bet included mercs) along with the Ehtiopian forces that moved into Somalia.
Prepare for AFRICOM. Nasty war for genocide and acquisition of resources. With all the needed co-opted NGOs in place from Gates Foundation to Clooney exhorting for Blakcwater “to help” in Darfur.
Be sure to VOTE VOTE VOTE.
From Reader “RL” at TPM, it bears repeating:
“I actually like the idea of a unitary executive, because it implies that there could be a unitary citizen. I have begun to consider myself a unitary citizen. I am allowed (by virtue of the definition of a unitary executive) to pick and choose the laws I would like to follow, kind of Thoreau like.
I also like the idea of retroactive immunity paired with the unitary citizen. I could decide not to follow a stupid law and then forgive myself afterwards.
But it begins to sound like (horrors) anarchy. Maybe that’s what we now have as a form of government: unitary anarchy. I like it. It works for me!”
read a certain way this vote suggests that one out of every three dollars contributed to democratic party/democratic candidates funds republican victories.
There’s only one possible running mate for Obama then… Stephen Colbert! He doesn’t see color.
lol…sorry, Colbert’s already agreed to be Huck’s VP. 😉
Presumably, the Obama people have other responsibilities that preclude their spending all day and night at these ridiculous caucuses.
them wily Clintonites! settin’ thar, jes’ lak a spider… Old and age treachery will always overcome youth and skill!
Seriously, I thought it was the Obama people who didn’t have jobs? And now someone’s telling me the Clinton people don’t have jobs. I’m confoosed.
It would look like you have Revisionist, or perhaps Mr. Stomach Flu, as a campaign advisor.
Wilfred, #74.
We have feathers in abundance. What’s lacking is somebody to show up with the tanker full of tar.
From what I could tell there were more ‘first timers’ at my caucus who were supporting Obama than there were for Clinton. Quite of few of the Obama people wanted to bolt after the first vote. Our PCO explained if there were not enough people to fill the delegate (and alternate) slots (4+4) they would be lost — I am not sure if Clinton would have picked up more delegates.
Anyway, I think caucuses are just awful. My first was for Dean — terribly chaotic; they had not expected that number of people. Same deal this year — I think it was about 30% more this time. Most had no idea what to do.
JJB 75 — Yes, lots of potential for cheating.
Mariscat, is there a cheat sheet for HTML formatting around somewhere?…I probably screwed up my attempt at the block quote.
Yes, I will come to egalitarian glory in the military. Unfortunately by the time I do, I’ll be dead of dehydration because I was afraid to leave my tent at night due to the politically incorrect libidos of my male “brother-patriots.”
Asshole. >:
Senate Gives Telecoms Immunity
Pretty damn predictable.
one out of every three dollars contributed to democratic party/democratic candidates funds republican victories.
No doubt.
But have no fear – Hillary or Obama will change everything!. Just wait…and wait…and wait…
Regarding the time commitment for this caucus business:
If one is interested in being a delegate, it’s not just a matter of attending the first caucus (ours was held from 1-3:30) — precinct delegates and their alternates must attend the Legislative District caucus (as I recall, it was an ALL DAY affair on a Saturday. Then if you are at all interested in the platform, you attend the County convention, also an all day affair on a Saturday.
If you get elected to the next level, it’s on to the Congressional District and State convention. Then Denver. (I think I have this correct).
It is a huge time commitment.
Yeah, it’s so much quicker to hold a tent revival. 🙂
Seriously, I don’t know much about caucuses and – in Iowa at least – they seem given way too much weight. But then again, state-by-state primaries don’t seem much better… but lots of people would argue that “time and seasoning” is needed for people to properly make up their minds, and that’s been an argument against holding a national primary.
Sooooo… (shrug)
raincat
teh blockquote came out fine. 8)
all I knwo is this — and replace brackets with little arrows..
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if you google HTML+tutorial you will get a selection of cheat sheets…
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heh. yeah, i gave myself a gold star 🙂
thanks! i didn’t know if wordpress used different tags.
fwiw…. from Ben Smith at Politico:
link to BS as he links to the chart.
Voting with the Republicans on the Dodd Amendment, full list of 18
Evan Bayh, Thomas Carper, Kent Conrad, Dianne Feinstein, Daniel Inouye, Tim Johnson, Herb Kohl, Mary Landrieu, Blanche Lincoln, Claire McCaskill, Barbara Mikulski, Bill Nelson, Ben Nelson, Mark Pryor, Jay Rockefeller, Kenneth Salazar, Debbie Stabenow, Jim Webb
yeah… that’ll fool ’em
nuff said.
Scalia on torture, interview with the BBC
yeah… that’ll fool ‘em
lol…”automatic”, except that they’re not.
They should be called ‘Houdini Delegates’ – people who can make your vote disappear without even batting an eye while being wrapped in chains made of Schmoozola™.
LOL anythign that riles up the party and makes the whole of the leadership from the DNC to the congress to the states’ “prominent Democrats” look bad….
Superdelegates date from 82: Get rid of them
caucuses, undemocratic, run by insiders and activists… get rid of them.
“First in the nation” a soul sucking business, get rid of it. have a flexible calendar of rotating early states by region.
Not a new idea, been put forward for years.
I love it they are in a tizzy. All of them.
And I think if there is a stampede of propaganda that Super D should ‘vote with their district’, first off should be Kerry and Kennedy.
May they all go down in a bonfire of the vanities.
The most devalued person, the voter. Courted woo’d pandered to, blitzed and then, creamed.
washington’s been doing caucuses for years. the only reason i know is that my wife always got taken to them as a kid, and remembers everyone deciding on jesse jackson in ’84 in her small town caucus. what’s diferent this year is that so many new people are coming in that it strains the infrastructure.
personally, they sound like a mess to me, although i suppose it would be amusing to sit around haggling over candidates for an hour or two, given sufficient amounts of ale and tables to pound. generally, i’d rather see primaries all around, with much more space between each contest, and regionally clustered to emphasize regional political leanings and cut down on the insane amount of flying these campaigns do.
generally, the republican primary system seems far more sane than the byzantine dem ones. caucuses and superdelegates and arcane percentages for odd-numbered and even numbered districts, ya basta!
Check it out among others… Hmmmm. I wonder haw many spots were set up at mosques….
So much for voting at Mcat’s cafe where the happy heathens hang out….
MSNBC projects VA for Obamalama.
I-Lama my ass off, catnip. 😀
Rhetoric question:
When did fundraising discussion turn to talk of “bombs”? Why do people call them “bombs” now?
We’ve gone from baseball bats to bombs, in four short years…
I have scribblers block over my Huck a Day Slogan Project.
MSNBC: 90% AA vote in VA to Obama + @55 WHITE MEN
Obama got fifty-five white Virginian men? Smokin’! 🙂
I think I can hear the celebrations from all the way up here!
Gliddy glub gloopy
Nibby nabby noopy
Obama ma mo…
Sabba sibby sabba
Nooby abba nabba
Le le lo lo
Tooby ooby walla
Nooby abba naba
Early morning singing song!
My latest: Oh, the irony! ‘US Compares 9/11 Trials to Nuremberg’
I have scribblers block over my Huck a Day Slogan Project.
Try a rhyming dictionary: schmuck, duck, luck, suck, muck, puck, guck etc. 😉
VA went for Webb too, lest we forget. 😉
Wow a lot of interesting backgrounders about Hillary and Solis…
Hmmm…. seems the Bill was not the only one with an intern problem…
Everything in moderation… 😮
She’s done I think. Va I think models well for Ohio , though not so fundie rural ( as gradations of lunacy go…)
In Ohio, AA were first, foremost and still fucked in the post Industrial fallout… They saw the white guys hang on before, those Dem / Reagan ? / Now WTF Dem fools also joined them among the lost…
She is not going to win Ohio under this mobilus … Indy Population gains, hardercore, more fucked over D-base, TRULY PISSED AA.
In Pa. I don’t see her being able to fake it, ….She’ll be weaker in “the T”,(Northern 1/3 + Middle 1/3 of PA, leaving out Pittsburgh and Philly.. She’ll be weaker in “the T” than she imagined …There is a blowback coalition aimed right at Fast Eddie Rendell’s Head..
NYCO coverin Sinatra! LOL. 😀
105 NYCO…Yep> Huck Sweepin the Smoked Squirrel , Obam dominating among the Smoked Ham Lovers…
Actually, BHHM, it’s “Hair” but I’m sure you knew that. Just checkin’.
Maybe this really isn’t the American presidential election, it’s the Jesusland presidential election. The Democrats living in Greater Jesusland are so driven mad by the longtime baiting of Republican Jesusfreaks that they want their very own version to strap on armor and do holy battle in their name.
Intriguing how the religious right has completely managed to shift the grounds of political engagement to the realm of Happy-Clappy.
one of D Throat out of Moderation… up thread at 110
sorry for the wait, I was napping…
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As for what I said above, There is a blowback coalition aimed right at Fast Eddie Rendell’s Head… very aggressive Obam Voter registration drives, ready to audit any Slow Walk on registration by Rendell Admin’s Dept of State…She has less of an untapped well as far as bringing in newer voters…Though PA is a closed Primary and Texas ,Ohio already locked in.as of a few days ago…Registration for new voters in PA is open till March 24th….plenty of paddlers to get on board as the National Boat heads for the Falls..
Makes people feel “vested” ……………….for now.
LOL. NYCO… I coulda sworn it was “Strangers In the Night”.
Gliddy glub gloopy
Nibby nabby noopy
Obama ma mo…
Sabba sibby sabba
Nooby abba nabba
Le le lo lo
Tooby ooby walla
Nooby abba naba
Early morning singing song
Great. Now I’ll have that song stuck in my head all nite.
Those lyrics reminded me of this clip. lol
from TPM
Question: which white voters aren’t “white ethnics”?
Enquriing herbs want to know.
Question: which white voters aren’t “white ethnics”?
You need to go back to the Immigration Reform Act of 1924.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924
It stopped immigration from Eastern and Southern Europe and encouraged immigration from Northwestern Europe.
A good rule of thum in American culture is that when someone says “white ethnic” he/she means Eastern and Southern European, Jewish or Catholic as opposed to Northwestern European and Protestant.
Basically anybody who came to the USA in the 1880-1920 wave of immigration is usually thought of as a “white ethnic”. Anybody who came in waves before that (even the Irish) isn’t.
It’s a stupid formulation and a stupid way to categorize people but all Americans (especially those on the East Coast) tend to think this way.
Great. Now I’ll have that song stuck in my head all nite.-catnip
In a just few ,here,
the Copyrite Police will be authorized to perform lobotomies….
Which, not-so-much-joking aside, there is a whole sub-plot playing out with the Media Moguls who just Lurve Hillary….Totally freaked over the downloadin youngins’ …Same kinda shit going back to Jack Valenti, Hillary Rosen worked for RIAA, Rahm’s Bro is a player in staking the outer reach settlement territory in content licensure ….
Just callin it like it is, I have no prob with artists getting the take, that unfortunately isn’t what its about, it’s about residuals ad nauseum for capital pimps..
Pimp Pimp Pimp. No one owns it yet, do they?
This Telcom shit is quite likely to usher in a whole small claims enforcement apparatus for unlicensed content, ensuring the digitally landed class against “trespassers” Computers being pulled over on the info highway, safety check you know, maybe inspected like cars…Sound crazy? wait till “just a reasonable few dollar fee” is imposed to “insure” losses to content owners….
Pigs are relentless at the corn crib.
Okay. I’ve already admitted here (a few times) that I can be naive, but can someone please explain this dkos diary to me – especially this part (with unattributed quotes)?
Just how is pointing out demographics like that “racist”?
well I consider the harsher (pro life, pro war, pro death penalty) Catholic voters, which can be Irish or Filipino, to be ‘Ethnic voters”.
Anybody who came in waves before that (even the Irish) isn’t.
But but but I heard one of the MSNBC commentators (Matthews?) call white Irish “ethnics” too.
I’m French. Doesn’t that count as an ethnicity?
I really need to stop watching American teevee.
and thnks to … think it was Rodriguez the other night on with Moyers… there si a new, to me, word.
Missiology. To build a coaltiion of black brown at THE RELIGIOUS INTERSECTION.
what fun.
“Hillary has her base among the less educated, white, hard working, lower middle class.” This is the last bastion of mindless racism in the US.
A lot of people have the impression that if you have a vowel at the end of your name you’re more hostile towards blacks than the typical WASP is.
It comes out of the 1960s and the 1970s, from the Richard Daly style blue collar dems going for George Wallace in 1968 and the anti-busing riots in Boston in the 1970s.
I’m not sure how much it still holds true.
And I’d guess that you’re seriously hard core racist white ethnics are probably Republican by now (Reagan Democrats).
But there’s a grain of truth to it that’s reinforced by Hollywood stereotypes.
Thus, these are white ethnics.
These aren’t.
They were talking on MSNBC about poll numbers in Maryland and the populace admitted to listening to talk radio in large numbers but were not voting as Limbaugh’s and the others wished.
roll over Rush, roll over.
it will be fun to see McCain win only to make Rush’s blood pressure rise and look like the loser he is.
But but but I heard one of the MSNBC commentators (Matthews?) call white Irish “ethnics” too.
Mathews means blue collar, northeastern white males. He likes to use the term “Deerhunter Country” ad naseum.
So I’d guess that an Irish American in Philadelphia is probably more likely to follow the voting pattern that Hillary is looking for than an Irish American in Seattle or Anchorage.
Think Democratic Party machine voting that gave Hillary an advantage in New Jersey and Massachussetts.
But how about a 25 year old Harvard grad of Eastern Eurpeon Jewish descent vs. a 60 year old German American Protestant high school grad in urban New Jersey.
Who’s going for Obama (according to the recent polls)?
I’m French. Doesn’t that count as an ethnicity? -catnip
It depends..Among the ancestrally Irish ,we use an Affinity Index that measures the frequency and duration of drunken Uncles brawling at the wake…The higher likelyhood that the cadavre is eventually knocked out of the casket is a fair indicia of both Irish-ness and Grog Efficacy.
#78 wilfred
love that comment
She’s got the brown pant suit on again for Taxas Rally coming on now…
Damn. The Squirrel Killer loses Virginia.
Actually I think “Wookin’ Pa Nub” is Hillary’s theme song now…
LOL
Actually I think “Wookin’ Pa Nub” is Hillary’s theme song now…
rofl 🙂
Notice that her Free Media is Prime Timed for Din Din in Texas..
So I’m guessing Hillary’s going to be doing some major pandering to Latinos in Texas and the Republicans are going down with video cameras and tape recorders to record said pandering for future use in the general election after the superdelegates give it to her.
Doesn’t that count as an ethnicity?
Only in Maine.
She’s Out at UTEP, ….. Not a bad venue given most kids have family at Ft Bliss and White Sandsacross the NM border..
Ugh … Hillary on MSNBC. Her voice sounds like a rusty old crowbar being rammed into deteriorating farm machinery gears on a cold winter morning when you have a hangover.
I have a headache now … oh, and having the index card full of Latino names to thank was a nice touch. Why doesn’t she just walk onto stage in a mariachi outfit with a big sombrero on her head?
I wish we had flan.
Why doesn’t she just walk onto stage in a mariachi outfit with a big sombrero on her head?
Bill Clinton = First Black President
Hillary Cilnton = First Mexican American President
ooo flan.
I would love a flan.
You missed it… a little boy ….walk onto stage in a mariachi outfit with a big sombrero on his head… and Hill walked him around the stage.
No joke… it was at the beginning.
Why doesn’t she just walk onto stage in a mariachi outfit with a big sombrero on her head? -madman
LMAO….Is it me being clouded by my POV or is she delivering one of the most phoney ass speeches I have ever heard???
#145 When they showed Hillpac being fitted for her mic, I turned over to the Sierra Club Chronicles on the Sundance Channel, time much better spent!
ROTFLMAO, DT # 149
maybe a chance someone will slap her with a pie full of texas-grown guacamole?
maybe a chance someone will slap her with a pie full of texas-grown guacamole?
How about David Shuster streaking across the stage and delivering said pie?
Holy shit Hillary just bashed Israel. snerk
Whoops. Never Mind.
Only in Maine.
lol
omg … I wasn’t looking at the screen … the glass teat was just blaring in the background as I blogged.
Is it me being clouded by my POV or is she delivering one of the most phoney ass speeches I have ever heard???
wouldn’t know … I hit mute when my temple started throbbing in time to her annoying sing-songy cadence.
Oh, btw, I listened to the Scalia interview at my desk this morning, and threw up in my mouth a little.
Tossed this up at LSF in response.
Let me say from experience that “Ft Bliss” in El Paso is perhaps the greatest misnomer in Military history.
How about David Shuster streaking across the stage and delivering said pie?
Only if he was dressed in full pimp regalia
no TV or video links. Is she doing deanscream material?
oh, and the “omg” comment was aimed at the kid in the sombrero.
I REALLY should learn to read again BEFORE I hit “say it!”.
Here is a video demonstrating how Obama fans will feel after he fails to fulfill their fondest pipe dreams.
BTW, that is one of my favorite cover versions of any song, ever. It’s right up there w/ Johnny Cash covering “Hurt”.
Is she doing deanscream material?
No, she doesn’t care enough.
I weep for what this nation has become.
new thread
LINK
So, after saying that “Race, class, and economic levels give no useful information to anyone”, Granny Doc reveals: