Music 18 February 2008
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.trackback
Bromley illustration, Financial Times
The illustration rides over this Clive Crook opinion piece, which is not such a much, I don’t think….
Snagged from Ben Smith at Politico:
Public Policy Polling–which has had a pretty good record this cycle in New York, Tennessee, Georgia, and South Carolina–has Obama leading the Wisconsin primary by 13.
ARG, which has had a bit of a rough cycle, has Hillary up 6.
Obama’s internals allegedly have him down by only 7 in Ohio.
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Marisacat 
I wonder how much juice the Republicans are going to crank out in back (but very accessible) channels re Barack Hussein Obama is a (scary! scary!) Muslim… and to what effect.
I was treated to lunch in Chinatown this weekend by some people, very sweet people, from my work realm… immigrants without much English, from Burma and Thailand, Chinese in origin. They were curious as to how I felt about Hillary. I told them, as best I could, about the IWR and her behavior around it. I said I preferred Obama because he spoke out against the war before it was launched, around the same time she voted for it. I said I was more willing to give him a shot than her. They are all against the war and frowned to hear this about Hillary.
One woman, who spoke the most English, said she really likes the way Obama speaks, but isnt he a Muslim? She was very concerned about this… I thought she said she is afraid of Muslims. I explained his background, African, Muslim heritage on the father’s side, (I thought the father was Muslim but it was the grandfather), and that he is a practicing Christian. I said that he lived in a Muslim country, Indonesia, etc etc. I intended to probe for this fear thing more, but the conversation (despite the limited English, a big group and much to say!) was so all over the place, the intention got subsumed. But it makes me think of the internet smear machine, wondering if that is where she found this. There are callers into Cspan who bring this fear fiction up about Obama, at least one caller each time I listen to Washington Journal.
I think the GOP will find Obama-As(scary!scary!)-Muslim irresistible grist for some good old fashioned fearmongering.
Ho… just found this while googling around, from MediaMatters, Juan Williams, gentle NPR moonlighter…
Gitmo’s torturers decry negative portrayal of gulag in new Harold and Kumar comedy
IOZ
Musharraff has just had his head handed to him — metaphorically speaking, of course:
Howard Zinn Presents Progressive American History in “The People Speak” [VIDEO]
Trailer for the Zinn film.
nice
good to see mush lose big. not that the opposition parties are any less wretched, but it’s always nice to see a dictator given his comeuppance.
#2 That was the front page story in the Times today.
Can’t wait for Harold and Kumar 2, should be loads of fun.
I put something up at LSF about the primary “choice” here in WI tomorrow.
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Sully just said on Mahrer
“I’m for Obama because I wanna win the war.”
US drops Africa military HQ plan
Viva Africa. Nobody’s buying Bush’s bullshit anymore.
i suspect the big difference in africa is that there’s no regional power that smaller countries are willing to use the states to act as a hedge against. korea, japan and taiwan tend to be friendly with the states because of china. eastern europe is more willing to let us have bases because of russia. it’s a dumb strategy IMO, but rational enough if you think there’s a chance the powerful neighbor is more likely to give you trouble than the far-off hegemon. same logic that tributary countries used with imperial ones, back in the day.
but africa doesn’t have that, so they’re less likely to offer bases.
here’s hoping the african countries get it together enough to form ranks against us. south america looks like it’s pretty well along on that road, i suspect the failed coup against chavez was the tipping point.
but africa doesn’t have that, so they’re less likely to offer bases.
Well, and I think that centuries of being raped by colonizers and then by the World Bank and IMF play a part, too.
I posted too soon. It’s not just Bush’s bullshit, Obama’s also on board for AFRICOM:
Taken from presidential questionnaire answers posted (in .doc form) at The Sullivan Foundation’s site. Biden, Edwards and Richardson, who also answered that questionnaire are also in favour of it, so I assume Hillary is too.
I was reading an article in a Ghana newspaper in my travels that mentioned the US had built an embassy there to the tune of $100 million. That’s one helluva lot of money to spend in such a small country for one building while the candidates all whine about too much money being spent on pork.
I’m reminded of this 2007 WaPo editorial: Stop Trying To ‘Save’ Africa
from what I read we have been enlarging “our footprint” in the HOrn from the time of 9/11, very actively.
Liberia is our big fig leaf and both R and D (that would be Bush and Bill the Philanthropist) just lvoe that woman president in Liberia. But it, regions of Africa, offers great opportunity for mayhem. Esp Darfur, Somalia, Chad, Niger Delta… and whereever we go, along with our government friendly NGOs, we plan and plot a military game.
At least as I see it.
I mean in 92 they called Somalia a “feeding mission”.
Well, that footprint has been more like a heel poised on Africa’s throat for far too long, obviously, and it’s good to see that the continent is standing up to the US empire’s dreams of world dominance. I think that’s a huge step forward.
on democracy and “clean” torture
Unilateral Strike Called a Model For U.S. Operations in Pakistan
Jeebus H Christ.
Well,I guess that gets Obama’s stamp of approval.
And yes, I am on Obama’s case because while he’s out there giving his flowery “Yes we can” speeches, people need to pay attention to what he thinks he can do in terms of foreign policy. He, along with 99% of the Dems, are no different from the Repubs on that front with respect to Africa, Pakistan, China, India and Israel – major players on the world stage.
I’m cranky tonite. Can you tell? 😉
Blogwar! Self-Destructive, Anonymous Daily Kos Front Page Loser of the Moment: ‘DHinMI’ (Dana Houle)
(Don’t know if it was linked here before but he’s added some updates.)
I was just catching up to that Brad Blog vs DH over at Pffterpoofters. It’s mentioned in comments in some thread, not sure where…
On my way to read it now.
What a hoot! I gather that Brad had not known who Dana was (fwiw).
The troll patrol’s trailer mat (taylormattdeedeedee) is over there trying to get some attention:
What a loser.
Wow. I never thought Castro would resign. Big news.
nice slapwa by bradblog.
DH should stick to too-long-overly-lame reviews of steve earle recordings. i was going to link to that ridiculous post yesterday (but why bother?) and point out the fact that while DH praises a singer who isn’t afraid of penning an anti-war lyric or two he stood by and did nothing while the zionists and rethug members of his board chased off legitimate antiwar activist named cindy sheehan. guess DH anti-war loyalties stop just this side of the party line.
of course it goes without saying first time steve earle writes a lyric finding fault with democrats out on their pro-war position poor steve’s ass is gonna be in the same boat at dkos as ms sheehan is, 100% right and unwelcome because of it.
first time steve earle writes a lyric finding fault with democrats out on their pro-war position poor steve’s ass is gonna be in the same boat at dkos as ms sheehan is
lol..you’d better warn him! How would he go on??
and an even better slapwa by Xeno!
and ddoesnt little lawyer boy talormattd come off like a cwyybaby!
Sooner or later, dkos will trim its list of acceptable sources to dkos itself.
Michelle Obama:
You just know that one’s going to come back to bite Obama if he’s the nominee.
oh I so wish I drank. I landed on this as it is linked on the FP online of the Wapo, down under Religion. Good spot for it.
Michelle’s in spam.
34. From the comments: OBAMA / BENNY HINN 2008 lol
For the first time in my adult life, I’m beginning to see how McCain is going to pull this one out.
The Republicans are starting to iron out their differences and solidify behind McCain.
The Democratic race is far from over and both campaigns are going to start hitting each other with Rove style attacks. It’s going to have the effect of disillusioning people and supressing the vote.
And it’s going ot have a rolling effect because
1.) All the Democrats needed to suppress interest in impeaching Bush and bringing him to justice (in politics in general) in order to better their chances at getting the White House.
2.) Hillary needs to suppress the vote in order to keep Obama from winning.
3.) McCain needs to go negative hard and suppress the vote to eek out a narrow victory.
Don’t count McCain out until the military stands down in January of 2008 and lets Hillary take office.
That’s January of 2009 🙂
Somehow relevent to Michelle Obama
that WaPo thing on god had this sentence, which made me laugh:
Even a blogger for Mother Jones, the hot heart of the far left, …
PUH-lease. That’s like claiming that the Utne Reader publishes anarchist tracts.
The “debate” in this country is such a farce.
Edith Piaf, superspy
the hot heart of the far left
I thought that was The Nation.
So Fidel has given up the presidency.
Can the Florida Cubans now swarm southward and make Havana a cruise ship port and turn the island over to the multi-nationals? Cuba, embrace your future is as maids, gardeners and hotel clerks for Western tourists!
Obama weighs in:
Nope sorry, the “freedom of the Cuban people” will nto be bringing us “together”. Not Neither No No.
Months to go and this stuff is OLD.
Freedom’s on the march!
Hillary
Looong.
Hillary’s none too good on the history and the arithmetic there. Castro had been in power since January 1959, which makes 49 years, not 58.
And the US has absolutely no business in Cuba whatsoever, nor do an appreciable number of people in Latin American want us to “play a constructive role” in “seeing a peaceful transition to democracy in Cuba.” If the US were simply to vanish, tens of millions of people in the other nations of this hemisphere would be delighted.
I think this takes the prize for the most inane bit of political commentary ever.
Yes, that’s right. Obama is a dog.
I admit to being real confused at this point because show beagles are carefully handled purebreds, while Obama’s appeal is that he’s supposed to be a “mutt.” Mr. Melting Pot. So shouldn’t she be writing about Pound Puppies?
If this is what the level of political discourse is going to be like for the next four years, euthanize me now.
I confess I only read the last two grafs of hers.
Well maybe we can raise up Fulgencio Batista or Machado or whomever is our preference and steam back into port.
United Seed and various fruit companies in tow.
You forgot Canada! OTOH, it’s no wonder you didn’t mention Canada since we haven’t been in the habit of punishing the Cuban people like you have all of these years.
Well periodically there have been efforts to pull America along. Oddly enough there was a warming in the early 80s under Reagan. There was a limited but more open opportunity to go to Cuba… and there were efforts, esp from US farmers (who have tried several times over the decades) to get trade opened up.
Hat tip to Obama that lots of baaaad things are bi partisan. Quite comfortably so.
LOL The Dems are just as huge shits on this as the R, in their own way.
Let us not forget the sainted Elian… rescued from the waters as a Thanksgiving gift. And an election nightmare for the poor wretched Democrats.
One of the most recent controversies re: Cuba and Canada/US relations here was concern over the US gov’t pushing for passenger lists of Canadian overflights of the US ie. that would give the US gov’t the right to see who might be flying to Cuba from Canada for business (and other) purposes to which many Canadians basically said fuck you.
bayprairie, #31:
and an even better slapwa by Xeno!
Darn. I haven’t been to PFF in a couple of days ?
Have I got a doppelganger over there now ?
MarketTrustee’s stuff about genetics and history was very interesting, though.
Oh, and quoth mr_xeno (who got a degree from the U of M years ago) this morning, upon hearing the news about Castro:
“I am really glad that I’m not in Miami right now.”
HCFM:
Get in touch the next time your in the ‘hood. We could get brunch, or a drink or something…
Andy Sully projects his hopes on his latest crush.
Did the audience applaud his comment?
Huzzah! Huzzah! Or, what was the war all about… LOL:
Oh I so wanna hear our packaged candidates shake their tiny fists at this one. It will be so dull. so scripted.
Let’s hear it for Green Collar Jobs! And alternative theories, that will remain as theories. Cellulosic, they learned to say it! Carbon offsets, they will help sell them.
and on and on and on and on.
cad
what did Sully say…
I went to look at his column at Atlantic, but must be missing it……………….
Darn. I haven’t been to PFF in a couple of days ?
Have I got a doppelganger over there now ?
the “other” was in the bradblog thread
Self-Destructive, Anonymous Daily Kos Front Page Loser of the Moment: ‘DHinMI’ (Dana Houle)
LOL Doesn’t mind USING the 60s. What a pol. WIth handlers.
Sorry to be very cynical. For myself I look at ’60, ’64, ’68 and ’72 as a whole or a continuum.
LOL Tavis ran an old interview with Obama, from late summer fall (a guess, there was a mention he had fundraised 75 million, so I based it on that) with his signature statement, a version of it, that people are tired of “Vietnam, the sexual revolution”… and one other thing he mentioned. But all those battles are worn out, over, irrelevant. oh the lst was “faith in politics”.
Wanna call those OVER???
IN WHAT UNIVERSE? The game of unity and civility is to get the nation to sell itself out. To BUY into the conservative, both parties, agenda in congress.
hmmm. I am sorry to be blunt, the deflation will be fast or slow.
One or the other.
Ambinder also linked to this in NY daily news. Not had a chance to read it.
UPDATE,
it was Doug Wilder statement NOT Axelrod.
Predictions, anyone?
I’ll pick Hillary in Texas, Obamalama in Wisconsin…who else is voting today? Just Hawaii? I’ll say that one goes to Obama.
Oops…not Texas. D’oh!
Predictions, anyone?
Race between Hillary and Obama gets nastier and nastier as Hillary tries to limit the number of new voters by going negative and bringing on the cynicism. Nasty brokered convention, nice on the surface but the hate bubbling up from underneath.
McCain goes hard negative in early September and never lets up. Suppresses the vote some more and eeks out a narrow victory.
A year later, he starts drawing down the troops in Iraq, putting pressure on the Israelis, and acting contrary to expectations as he rebuilds the party.
Or he could just keel over in early April 2009.
Ah, sorry, bayprairie. Figured it out.
Too bad I can’t take credit for the Bradblog post.
Predictions, anyone ?
Lamb shanks with veggies for dinner, plus a nice bottle of ice cold Blue Heron. Tomorrow I might make an apple crisp.
Oh, were we talking about something else ? Sorry.
Cindy McCain’s damned proud of her country. Gimme some of that S&L money and I’ll show you some pride too.
Pat Buchanan’s really pissed at that uppity n…uh that woman Michelle Obama.
This photo
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2008_02_17_archive.html#8212895133719184390
gives me an excuse to link to this
i am entertained that Michelle is not a convert to the Axelrod pitch, shoved out thru her husband, of Unity=Happyland, Details to Follow. Or not.
And I await the outing of her thesis (see Newsweek profile).
HEAVILY going after Michelle Obama on MSNBC.
Do we have our Dean Scream moment?
Interesting that there’s a Kos troll patrol e-mail list about PFF
http://www.politicalfleshfeast.com/showComment.do?commentId=66283
Nothing to do with her or that other guy. MM’s diary was the catalyst and pff earned attention because she gets support here. So, you might want to rethink who you’ve all pissed off. You can call me what you want. I can be real bastard when it’s something I care about.
I think they should send Kestrel over to my house to kick my ass. I’m working on my bird photography.
http://www.pbase.com/srogouski/image/79110078
I could hardly follow that sub thread, after the retelling of some Great Flood known as teh outing email.
Good Luck to them all!
I could hardly follow that sub thread, after the retelling of some Great Flood known as teh outing email.
Anybody an old time usenet user? Remember the alt.rec.sking flamwar? I believe a judge somewhere in Seattle issued an injunction to stop it.
From what I remember there were some David Byron “mens’ rights” dorks involved.
http://www.menweb.org/gagorder.htm
some exit poll info from WI, via CBS
Predictions anyone- catnip
From my dumbass? ….LOL Let’s see,- I picked Edwards in Iowa, thought she’d close the deal on him by SuperDuper SemiGooper Tuesday…LMAO. Whoops!
( I still do think her peeps figured at the outset he’d run good interference to ward off a Gore or Edwards challenge and had a caveat that if Obamas peeps thought they could make a run out of a debutante candidacy they’d do it….)
As for predictions, I now just EMAIL mcat ….
Tho it did freak me out the first twenty times
when I simply sent a text asking
😀
I am prediction shy.
Wisconsin … could be a squeaker, slight edge to one. Could be an Obomberamafest. Could be a NH…
I dunno, never mind.
Hawaii’s his. He’d look better at a luau, sporting baggies and festooned in leis.
my prediction as always is
Hell if I know.
squeakers, here and there. LOL most I could say.
Distribute weapons, to Michelle too! Cindy needs to prove she can make it thru a meet and greet without chewing her lips, then she can have a tiny gun. A little pocket number… Maybe pink and white flocking on the barrel…
Stand back.
I say let them fight to the end.
I was sympathetic to Obama until I learned his wife is one of those blacks who aren’t loyal to America.
I mean, Barack HUSSEIN Obama and his Angela Davis like spouse with their fingers on the button and the war on terror in their, um, ethnic fingers.
No thanks.
Do we want Michelle listening to one to many Public Enemy songs then deciding to turn the launch codes over to Hugo Chavez?
Not me.
Hillary’s almost as bad. Gawd. Can you imagine asking OUR TROOPS to call HER Commander in Chief. But at least she’s been there before and she’s trained not to go too far.
Just keep her away from the Nukular football a few days every month and we should be fine.
I’m still votin for McCain though. Rush don’t like him but he’s a vet and I respect that.
Do we have our Dean Scream moment?
Who knows. But for a little bit earlier today, conversation about it on dKos actually got above an IQ level of 40.
So she made a gaffe. And yes, it is a gaffe. You can’t spin it away that the MSM is “leaving a word out” because all someone has to do is ask her, “So Mrs. Obama, why haven’t you really been proud of your country?” and then she (or Hubby) has to come up with an answer that is perfectly worded (you know, without Deval Patrick’s speechwriter).
I say YOU GO GIRL! Gaffe away! Let’s rock and roll! Yeaaarrrggggh!
But no, we’re not going to have rock and roll. We’re going to have backtracking and mincing and pandering and blandness, and no ugly specifics about whatever it is that’s keeping us all from being one pulsing glowing believing ball of warm commingled American dream-flesh.
I mean them people can fake it real good sometimes but you can’t fake lovin your country forever can you?
Yep. Well spoken, “clean”, dresses well, has one of them fancy eduations in one of them communist schools with no football team and ugly chicks with flat chests and glasses but in the end he’s just another, um, person of color.
I knew it was the Islam involved. I knew it. I bet Barack HUSSEIN Obama and his little Angela David bow down to Mecca five times a day.
No siree. He ain’t gonna be commander in chief. Are we gonna respect a guy like that to protect our borders? To protect us from militant extreme Islam?
Even that liberal Chris Matthews and that cute Irish CHick Norah O’Donnel don’t trust him anymore.
Y’know, it certainly is a fucked up system, when the ‘pledged’ delegates arent even really pledged.
Do the Republicans have this (do what you want, delegates) system? I heard that a while back the language was changed by the Dems from mandatory pledges to a gentler version, which, coincidentally, doesnt mandate their pledges.
They keep playing Michelle Obama clip on MSNBC and kicking it over to Pat Buchanan for a comment.
They’re clearly going after her.
It would be so nice [if I cared] to think that the Dems and whatever cmap wins, most likely Barack… were at all ready for what is coming.
Thsi so reminds me of the Kerry and Dems head in teh sand shit. Right about the same month, right before the R started the hard onslaught late Feb.
And then they were creamed, over and over… . They might have still won [if it mattered] had they said anything direct, honest or [fatigue alert] authentic across the months.
But they didn’t, despite, I notice, people still fighting Kerry’s 04 battles fro him.
Lordy.
83
LOL and they have never gone after a woman before. Ever. What a shock.
In Casablanca.
Sorry, I just opted for the entertainment clause in my soon to be revoked citizenship papers.
So much is not being discussed. If they go after “birthright citizenship” with regard to the horribly named “anchor babies” then any citizenship is up for revocation.
But of course let’s manufacture hope, just liek horse manure. Or exhaust fumes. Or political verbiage that is worthless, from worthless people, elevated to a corporatised run… then flayed for sport on corporatised media.
What bullshit. All of it.
#79 oh just LMAO HC
LOL and they have never gone after a woman before. Ever. What a shock.
Just commenting on how obvious it is. Each time it goes right to Buchanan. And then Buchanan lays it on thick.
92
There go the Democrats, lost in their OWN RULES.
But would they change anything to make the popular vote MATTER.
Not that I see ever happening.
well the pride issue made it to local TV, with a clip of Miss Cindy and her rejoinder.
Oh well without benefit of soothsaying,
Obam in Wisc by 3, picks up Hawaii
If Obam wins Wisconsin he takes Texas and Ohio too
continue with the failed policies of the past that have stifled democratic freedoms and stunted economic growth
and the relentless political and economic assaults from the USA had NOTHING to do with that “stunted economic growth”.
You forgot Canada!
No he didn’t … vassal states aren’t “partners” (ducks and runs from flying Molson cans and snowballs).
I think it could be spun as she was saying she was proud of her countrymen/women for creating this ‘movement’ of hope and change, which she has seen for the first time in her adult life in America. (That, I do not feel or get for this man. Movement? Huh?) Still, her countrymen/women might take offense, but who the hell cares if she was never proud of us or not.
Let’s see the Dude deliver, Mama. Like he means it. That’s all.
And only time will tell how well he fares in that regard, if he is Our Guy.
It is true that it is all pretty speeches for now. And I think she got taken just a little too high on her own high flown rhetoric that time.
Whoopsie.
HEAVILY going after Michelle Obama on MSNBC.
Mika was mocking Scarborough making a big deal of it this morning.
Mika was mocking Scarborough making a big deal of it this morning.
Which is absurd considering her father’s part of Obama’s campaign.
Gotta love the media.
Ahhh Wisconsin.
Brings to mind when I hounded the denizens of that state to vote for Dean… when he was withering. At a phone bank on 42 Street.
I liked the people I reached. They were nice enough, low key. I got a vibe of well lived in living rooms, browns and golds.
I got on the Dean bus a little late, and I think that was the only state I called.
Prediction?
I don’t know … could be Eisenhower, could be Nixon in drag. Don’t much care either way.
And note Mika’s usually the butt of the jokes on that show, sort of the uppidy blond b–tch Scarborough and Willie Geist get to play off of.
So the fact that they’re letting her defend Obama and kicking it over to Buchanan to attack him……
Who’s more likely to affect “white ethnics” in Youngstown?
Love the FT illustration at top, and an am laughing away, here, catching up.
Cindy needs to prove she can make it thru a meet and greet without chewing her lips, then she can have a tiny gun. A little pocket number… Maybe pink and white flocking on the barrel…
Hear that Mumsie? Better mind yer Ps and Qs!
As usual, I want ms xeno’s dinner.
Everyone looks better in leis.
Beautiful egret, HCfM.
Haven’t seen this film myself, but apparently it’s well on its way toward critical glory … and while visiting the wonderful blog The Human Flower Project the other day, I saw that the author did a spoiler-rich summary (accompanied by a single floral still photo) concering the Coen brothers’ latest: No Movie for Real Men, or Women. I love some of their work, but this one certainly sounds like bloody hell.
OK, cheeseheads . . . name your muenster! name yer fontinella!
🙂
And I await the outing of her thesis (see Newsweek profile).
Had to go look:
Too bad that they feel that has to be hidden away. Sounds refreshingly honest and right to me …
I really resent the Obama campaign’s claim to ownership (and commodification of) the concept of “hope.” Like they are the sole representatives, just because they spout the word 24 hours a day.
I’m sorry, I haven’t done enough Hillary-bashing. Believe me, I was looking forward to being able to bash her mercilessly (had to live with her as a carpetbagging senator for 8 years), but I didn’t expect that my irritability would be equally caused by her opponent.
And yes, Hillary’s campaign has been pathetic. Bill’s been pathetic, the whole operation has been sickly beyond all expectation. It’s so strange because I don’t really recall Bill campaigning too much for her when she was running for Senator. He would just come to county fairs and eat stuff. He was pretty silent.
That said, Obama could still impress me if he actually came to his wife’s defense and boldly articulated why a lot of Americans have a love-hate relationship with their own country. However, that would take more than babbling about “hope and change.” Has he got it in him?
Madman, re Michelle Obama – damn straight. I’d rather listen to her than to her husband.
But we’ve gone this “two for the price of one” route before. Look how it turned out. And is turning out again, apparently.
sort of the uppidy blond b–tch Scarborough and Willie Geist get to play off of.
She gives as good as she gets, and sometimes REALLY gets under Joe’s skin making fun of his man-crush on Raygun.
But we’ve gone this “two for the price of one” route before. Look how it turned out. And is turning out again, apparently.
Yup. Sad, but there it is.
She (Mika) says some damn stupid shite sometimes, but sometimes she’s all right. I think she and Joe could be an item. They sit veeeeery close, and engage in a lot of flirt fighting and touchy touchy.
As gaffes go, I liked Michelle’s blooper almost as much as the Dean scream. Both increased my interest in the perpetrator, rather than reduced it.
Too bad that they feel that has to be hidden away. Sounds refreshingly honest and right to me …
I considered the Newsweek profile a sly piece of work.
But again, the campaign is unwisely letting stuff fester. Get it out, if the thesis is awkward or an issue.
Again, Michelle CLEARLY does not buy into the manufactured hope and unity thing. At least that is my take.
For one it is UNSALEABLE if one really thinks about it. People may ride the gaseous hype, it may extend the honeymoon, but this willnto be working, long term.
Liek the Tavis interview i caught. he said Vietnam, sexual revolution and faith in politics were the OLD Arguemtns.
Saying does not make it so, when people DISAGREE. And people struggle every day, living in a declining nation, committed to wide war, denial of sexual equality/rights and the Dems all spitting up Jesus or being Jesus.
I find the unity shit just more games to deliver us to think tanked Cato, AEI and Heritage shit.
The biggest problem is the huge conservative bloc in congress, in government, among the aides on the Hill, the lobbyists etc.
We just get fed mush and then delivered to the chopping block.
As I see it.
Hillary is supposedly giving a speech now in Ohio. In it she will give the actual pronunciation of the copyright symbol.
oh I decided back, by 94, that I would nto vote for anotehr sweater set of attys.
God no.
She gives as good as she gets, and sometimes REALLY gets under Joe’s skin making fun of his man-crush on Raygun.
Right but Michelle Obama’s not being dependable to love America enough is going to hurt her with white ethnic men.
Who’s the middle aged white ethnic male in Ohio going to respond to better, Buchanan or Mika Bzrezinski?
Ignore the ethnic last name for the moment, she gives off “WASP” signals and Scarborough and Buchanan give off “regular guy” signals.
So whether or not it’s going to work and it may not you can clearly see the angle MSNBC is going for.
I hear Buchanan expressing his genuine shock about this and I see every older male in my family. Middle aged white ethnics may warm to Obama eventually but they seriously don’t like black women.
And put a white women in the position of defending them and that guy in Ohio’s going to start thinking his wife’s not making dinner because she’s watching the Lifetime Channel.
(note this is only my own clueless impressionist view but I’m sure people have already figured that out)
Btw, has anyone seen that goddamn ultra annoying Supah!delegate KID they keep trotting out on the telly?
Ugh. I want to grow my nails longer and give him a good clawing. (Im not really that mean, but really… he is fucking annoying.) His cloying, smarmy little “aint I a whiz kid!” voice/attitude, self-adoring valedictorian of the Dem party junior set (knows best), Grrr… gits me rankled like nobody’s bidniz.
Oft heard quote (close to it) from SuperAnnoyingDelegateBoy, when asked if he thinks his the power his vote has is really fair (this comes after he rattles off a list of Chelseas, and Bills, and Kennedys, et al, et al, who take him to lunch and call him on the phone, wooing him):
“Oh yes, I think I am entitled to have my SUPER delegate vote, to vote for whatever I think is best for the party, just like all the other voters had their chance to vote for their choice.”
Yeah Squeaky, like your vote equals that of another voter. Try thousands.
And everyone in the media just pets and praises him to death.
Ugh. Aspires to be president someday, too. Of course. Ugh.
Oh, and in hindsight, I have to say that the whole “Hillary will do well in the red states because she won over Upstate NY” theory… well, we never really got a chance to test it, because she was blindsided from the (alleged) left, but I knew it was never going to hold water anyway.
Upstate NY was starstruck. Upstate voters spend their entire existence being flattened under NYC’s heavy demographic weight. Honestly, they’re like starved animals in a cage. They’ll snarl and rush the bars at first, but if you just talk a little nice to them and give them a (pork-based) treat, they calm down and accept your presence. Someday someone’s going to let them out of that cage so they can be the unique and free animal they’re supposed to be, but Hillary was just there to pose for carefully staged pictures. She didn’t have to tame the beast; that would involve them being out of the cage (like the real voters in the real red states are).
Any idea that her throwing treats to a caged and powerless beast meant she was a real lion tamer, was an absolute joke.
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HCfM … oh, you’re likely right, but I’m done worrying about dumbfuck ethnic white males voting for their own dissolution. Fuck ’em … they deserve all of the misery they have voted for. Too bad they’ll drag the rest of us down with them.
I wish ghosts were real, because the lot of them deserve to be haunted by their trade-unionist forebearers.
A Presidents Day to Remember: Photos from San Francisco
Any word on what happened at the Marine recruiting center in Berkeley? I heard some Gathering of Eagles types were planning to gather there and there was a counterprotest planned,.
Did anyone notice this: I just flipped to the MSNBC coverage & in their 9pm EST intro, when they flashed his picture, there was some sort of campaign sign behind him that framed his head in a white halo… fucking creepy.
…significant Obama lead
Thing is, the only choices for a presidential candidate are Numero-Uno-Plus- Automaton, or else It-Takes-A-Couple. Nobody single is gonna get elected President any time soon, right? Waaaay too much (perceived) risk.
And this whole First Laddie thing is getting its first serious workout. So if they’re going for MIchelle today, maybe it’s ’cause they think it’s their last really clear chance to fuck up the ‘mo for chaaaaaaaaange.
Plus, I agree with NYCO upthread that Bill was mercifully peripheral during Hillary’s Senate run.
He would just come to county fairs and eat stuff.
I bet there are plenty of voters who wish he had contented himself with corncobs, baked beans, crawfish, and pie for this go-round. Whoo doggy!
no word here yet on results, but this bodes well for Obama:
By way of translation: East side and Marquette are college areas, and awash in Obama (and Paul) signs and bumper stickers. South side is working class ethnic whites and hispanics.
madman, whats the word in wisconsin? You here anything?
They say exit polls heavily favor Obama
Whoops just saw 116…anybody hear anything major coming out of Hill camp?
Amazing how Ron Paul’s dropped off the face of the earth since the rise of Obama.
His 15 minutes of fame coincided exactly with the period beginning with Dem support of the surge and ending with Obama Mania.
Wonder what he’s going to do with all that money he didn’t spend.
Tim Russert, ever the gent, says of her 50-and-over stalwart ladies:
“Her last remaining coalition is aging white women.”
What really made me proud of my country today was hearing that a college curriculum proposal for an Industrial Design course on fabrication/product design called “Making It”, was asked to change the title of the course from someone high up in the state, as it was sexually suggestive.
#120 Wonder what he’s going to do with all that money he didn’t spend.
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Uppity Wisconsin blog liveblogging primary returns.
The widget he’s using is a little buggy, but there is some interesting stuff.
There are reports there and in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel of access problems at some polling places for the elderly/disabled. Lots of piled up snow on sidewalks and bus stops (for a mass transit system that sucks increasingly hard as the more-Republican county gov’t kills it off). I’m seeing many fewer elderly people when I’m on the bus. Also, it is very, VERY cold here today.
WisPolitics Election Blog
LOL
Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:
BASED ON EXIT POLLS, ABC NEWS PROJECTS SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ., WILL WIN THE WISCONSIN REPUBLICAN PRIMARY; SEN. BARACK OBAMA, D-ILL., IS LEADING IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY
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Well he could
1.) Use it to help build an anti-war socialist/libertarian coalition
2.) Give it to anti-immigrant white supremacists
I could believe either but it’s disappointing that he’s ruled out a third party run.
I’m not sure about exactly what the rules are for leftover money but clearly he can’t spend it all keeping his congressional seat.
Pink Candy Cindy!
Does she represent the Chanel bloc?
McCain’s hitting all the right notes but he sounds tired and choppy.
Cindy puts me in mind of a Star Trek alien babe.
Very pre-hippie sixties.
Ohhh bama wins!
“Her last remaining coalition is aging white women.”
Yeah, and we all know that REAL democracy is just for The Yooth.
If Jesus comes back, I hope he comes back as an old sick widow and really fucks with everyone’s head.
More than 30,000 register at the polls in city
121 – LOL.
123 – So much for the mass turnout of aging white women and the famous (but also mostly retired, or severely disspirited, or else probably way less “ethnic”) Middle Aged White Ethnic Male.
Bummah about the weather, mini-delegates!
(Say, where’s the personal injury lawyer when you really need him?!)
Capital Times (Madison) election blog
What about the bloc that wants to criminalize flag burning?
She still has that.
Ugh … my governor’s voice makes my head hurt. DLC puke that he is.
Wonder what he’s going to do with all that money he didn’t spend.
I was thinking taxpayer-rights leaflets, abstinence programs, and a treatise on the Federal Reserve.
Uhps there it is a reframe speech….
latest update on the Capital Times blog:
And I expect Obama did VERY well in Madison proper.
I have a serious question though… DO people really think that aging women (white or otherwise) should just not vote? That seems to be the punchline of the joke.
I mean, I’m a future member of the “aging white women” cohort. I’m a little sensitive about my future worthlessness to the political process.
It’s funny how “aging white women” have “prejudices,” while young voters only have “issues” and “interests.” Is it possible that young voters also have peculiar prejudices? No! couldn’t be.
New headline on the Journal Sentinel front page:
Obama wins Wisconsin for 9th straight
WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama won the Wisconsin primary Tuesday night, his ninth straight triumph over a fading Hillary Rodham Clinton in their epic struggle for the Democratic presidential nomination.
Obama cut deeply into Clinton’s political bedrock, splitting the support of white women almost evenly with the former first lady and running well among working class voters in a blue collar battleground, according to polling place interviews.
The economy and trade were key issues in the race, and seven in 10 voters said international trade has resulted in lost jobs in Wisconsin. Fewer than one in five said trade has created more jobs than it has lost.
Sadly, this is based on AP polling, NOT on local reporting, because why should those fuckers actually spend any money on local news gathering:
“End this Era of Cowboy diplomacy”
How does that sell well in Texas….
oops, screwed up the first blockquote, sorry.
This just in: one of my cats is listening to Hillary’s speech and suddenly announced he’s voting for Obama.
God MSNBC is going to cut her mic…
LOL catnip
candidate jeebus pic from JS website front page
Obamalama upstaging Hill’s speech on the teevee: biggest blog topic of the day tomorrow. Larry Johnson’s head explodes. YouTube video at 11.
Madman ou tof moderation, about 10 comments up… sorry! for the delay.
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Oh middle aged wimmen, esp white are to lock their hands in prayer, lock their brains and nto speak — and not vote, not speak up and surely not disagree.
Nor can they change their minds, go off the doily and vote as they please.
ooops change. Must find aother word.
Frankly I see a relection of what I thought was Kos’ agenda, drive out older TOUGH, smart women.
LOL
Frail thing that he is. Frail thing that most are.
Fuck ’em if they can’t take a joke.
Hillary plays the fear card, carefully.
DO people really think that aging women (white or otherwise) should just not vote?
Yes, apparently. Washed up is washed up in the post-feminist cultural landscape. For some pinches, tejano or not.
Speakin’ of which, Obama hitting the podium in TX.
shades of things to come:
It Would Be Funny If They Weren’t Serious
Oh great. Now my cat’s jumping up and down on the couch saying ‘Yes we meow!’
“aging white women”?
Tweety should be more worried than Obama-Sara jane Moore was paroled.
‘Yes we meow!
speaking of plagerism … I wonder how Cesar Chavez feels about THAT co-option … if he wasn’t dead and still able to feel, that is.
vassal states aren’t “partners” (ducks and runs from flying Molson cans and snowballs).
Here I come a-vassaling. (And you forgot the frozen pucks.)
Bit tacky, the surge of applause for the price at the pump!
surge of applause for [bemoaning] the price at the pump, I mean. . .
(And you forgot the frozen pucks.)
Soooo, Puck me?
See, says catnip’s feline – he has faith enough (in America) for two! Let her be the skeptic! What’s the problem?
Obama party brimming with enthusiasm
I wonder how Cesar Chavez feels about THAT co-option
Exactly (but sshhh or you’ll be dubbed an enemy of the state).
To balance things off, my other cat just threw up.
Frankly I see a relection of what I thought was Kos’ agenda, drive out older TOUGH, smart women.
Well, I’m still operating at Big Orange. They can come get me any time they want. (rubs hands together) I am gonna have me some fun once they get a Democratic prez and have to play defense. It will be jolly sport. (Really, I do not know why people TRY to get themselves thrown off there. Having a low UID is still worth a couple of poker chips, at least in their little pea brains.)
Soooo, Puck me?
Puck you, motherpucker! (whoooosh)
“It’s a choice between the Clinton mystique and the Obama magic,”
Wow! My head is spinning. Do I want mystique, or do I want magic? Magic or mystique? Mystique or magic? Which wunna dese…
and yesterday when I went to the bathroom…APPLAUSE…I suddenly discovered there was no toilet paper…APPLAUSE…so I did what my grandfather used to…APPLAUSE…I used the Sear’s catalogue….CROWD GOES WILD….YES WE CAN!
go off the doily and vote as they please
LOL.
Cheers to that phrase – and its notion!
FWIW:
Wisconsin Primary: Latest News, Polls On Democratic Race
“the war is Iraq was unwise“?
That’s the best he can do (besides it being “dumb” as well)?
Chickenshit.
I used the Sear’s catalogue…
at least it wasn’t a corncob … the reserve those for the voters.
Pointy-end first.
ouch…lol
YES I CAN …
… change the channel.
They may have had a bash at Michelle earlier today, but Barack’s getting one hell of a shitload of free airtime right now. . . . No cut-in on MSNBC so far at all.
Wispolitics: 8:54 PM: Update on exit polls
fwiw
174. Or CNN…but the talking heads just complained about how long it was. (No kidding.)
Wow. Pretty soon we won’t have Hillary to kick around any more!
I wonder if Obama will insist on walking from the Capitol to the White House on inauguration day…
That was Timmy, not Tweety, who made the “aging white women” comment. Shoddy. Why not mature? Last time I looked, everyone is aging.
Has the pantsuit been folded yet?
12 point spread at present.
Looks like Huckster took a drubbing from Man O’ War.
Oh, now Timmy has revamped to “elderly white women.”
Edwards’ White Men went for Obama, dramatically, sez the Pumpkin of Punditry on MSNBC.
well I just read that the Obama speech tonight was 45 mins.
He may go from irritating to boring. For those paying attention.
LOL
Olbermann gives Timmy props for the mot fucking juste, as always?
More fucking juiced, maybe!
What was that they said about Obama’s campaign deciding to upstage Hillary’s speech because she wasn’t being “gracious” enough to him? Was that fact or speculation? I was in the other room.
Tim is saying Obama decided to go ahead and stomp on her post loss rally because she didnt give a concession nod to him.
180 – Very crafty to let sleeping electorates snore!
Did Timmy just say that Hillary has to win 65% of all remaining delegates to win the nomination? I’m not sure I heard him correctly.
“Aging”… “Elderly”… who cares. I’ve just decided that I’ve joined that cohort. I’m gonna be the youngest elderly woman in America now. And I’m gonna fight for my bitches!
What happened to Hawaii?
And I’m gonna fight for my bitches!
YES YOU CAN!
My boyfriend said the same as soon as the split screen started and Obama rolled over her.
My boyfriend is Tim Russert, everyone!
[sobs, scurries off]
[How ’bout those Bills! sob]
Damn Obama! If Hillary is the nom we can whine up a storm about how everything is fixed. Pick our scabs. Geez, it sounds like the preference of people here.
You are all very smart and witty, but Joanna Average doesn’t post here.
When you are seeing record turnouts for primaries, what is your assessment? They must be jeebus-loving idiots! But you are not snobs. You must have 35 years of experience, at least.
Some of you are big in whining about the lack of substance in Obama. Same some that will pick up the trivialities reflexively as Buchanan or Scarborough will.
What seperates you from reactionaries?
Hawaii doesnt happen till the midnight hour.
ET.
And that’s just when they start to vote. Or caucus/horse trade, as they say.
Hawaii is a caucus, and it doesn’t start until late, local time.
Via Crooks & Liars:
Thousands of Prairie View Students March 7.3 Miles to Vote
What seperates you from reactionaries?
Well, plainly NOTHING.
gotta get back to digging my secret bunker to hide from Obama and the UN’s black helicopters.
jeez.
Reactionaries? What is this, the Cultural Revolution?
Did Pat Buchanan just call him “Bama”?
Hawaii doesnt happen till the midnight hour.
K. Thanks. If it’s one of those baked goods caucuses, it’s definitely going for Obama.
Oh and BTW, Joanna Average is a good friend of mine. She just doesn’t know it yet.
When you are seeing record turnouts for primaries, what is your assessment?
People are sick and fucking tired of George W Bush and the neocons.
What seperates you from reactionaries?
My beret is crocheted.
Tweety asks a trick question: name Obama’s legislative accomplishments.
Texas Dem guy: ummm…duh…I’m not going to be able to do that tonite.
Whoops.
LMAO you guys catching this texan who can’t come up with a god damn thing about Obama LOL OUCH OUCH OUCH!
Terrible!
State Sen Kirk Watson – that clip’s definitely going to be making the rounds.
That was seriously BAD. lol
But Tweety NEVER asks that shit of the right-wing. Even Keith called him on it afterwards.
Oh that was BAaaad.
Whatever catnip says I’ll plagerize it a few seconds later..LO
He said that if Barak wins Vermont, Wyoming and South Dakota, Hillary needs 65% of the big state [TX, OH & PA] to win.
I think she’s just about toast. Bring on the change! 😉
Now my cat’s saying that he was actually born in Montana and wants to join Democats Abroad so he can vote. Mon dieu!
Whatever catnip says I’ll plagerize it a few seconds later..LO
Not to worry. It’s not like I can afford a lawyer to sue you. 🙂
Our actual politics perhaps?
I’m afraid I already have the response to Obama in ’12
“plus ca change……”
“plus ca change……”
You read my mind. (Watch out or I’ll nail you for plagiarism too.) 🙂
LOL. If Obama is smart they should quickly make a humorous viral vid with the guy along the lines of
Barack Obama coaching surrogates saying
“Okay People, This is What NOT to say on Live National Television.”
an exasperated BO saying
“C’mon man, you can’t say nothin”!!!’
Then the guy saying something like,
‘Well I”M not ready for Prime Time.”
With Obama rolling his eyeballs., shakin his head maybe pivoting off into his List of accomplishments which is
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well I dunno, The National Pulse and Respiration Adviseability Act, sumpin’…LOL…
Anyways, I’m only half joking…Seriously, that is potentially a disastrous pivotal moment.Coupled with the Michele “Not Proud” moment, it’ll get rolled into some type of “Who ARE these People?@!??” commercial…
How they pivot off her agffes I have no clue, they (BO’s campaign)certainly can’t bring up her stuff directly…
They should do something proactive with this moment here tonight, though..That is going to be seen millions of times over the next few days…
nu thred…
sorry ti took forever, the back pages at WP are slow to not moving…
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No kidding?! MY cat was born in Montana!
#211, LC that’s me doing my Amazing Kreskin act!
it’s been happening in Focus Groups on Cspan.
They just took it to a supporter, with a name and one who is an elected. Might be expected to have some vague idea of what the meat might be. Past meat, not asking for a concrete idea for the future.
LOL.
And what do you mean by “actual politics”?
a serious question.
Politics, to me, is a way of garnering power from the populus. For good or worse. Dubya succeeded politically, by garnering 2 terms from the worst inclinations of the populace.
What makes ya’ll so sure that Obama isn’t garnering power from the better inclinations?
Hark! I see a pantsuit flying by my window. Whizzing erratically, like a balloon losing air.
No kidding?! MY cat was born in Montana!
No kidding? We must be related then…or something…ummm… 😉