“Obamaville: Make America Shine Like the Sun” 26 February 2008
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.trackback
People cheer for Presidential candidate Barack Obama speak at Savage Hall in Toledo. THE BLADE/JEREMY WADSWORTH
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[M]eanwhile, the rules for covering Obama have grown by at least one in recent weeks.
Around the Super Tuesday primary elections on Feb. 5, the barriers around the press area at Obama events went from easily penetrable, fabric rope lines to interlocking metal gates manned by vigilant gatekeepers.
Bottom line: The media can no longer roam free.
For months prior to that, reporters could mingle among hundreds of supporters after rallies as Obama worked the rope line. It was a chance to see him interact with voters – and one of the few opportunities to squeeze in a question.
But camera crews and reporters often clogged the rope line, which annoyed Obama because he viewed it as his time to meet voters. Foreign TV crews would sometimes do stand-up shots there.
Now, reporters must usually flag down a staff member before entering the rope line area.
“We are fortunate to have a packed house, in addition to thousands of media from all over the world attending our events,” campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki wrote in a statement. “We are always flexible in making sure the media has the access they need, but more importantly that the thousands of people who come out to the events have the best experience possible.”
The remedy suggested to select reporters? Take off your press badge and slip past the gatekeepers.
For his part, Obama attempted to connect with the traveling press corps Friday. But just as soon as he started, he was gone again.
He poked his head out from behind a blue curtain at the visitors center at the University of Texas-Pan American campus. Reporters, hunched over their laptops, looked startled at the sight of the candidate. They hadn’t interacted with him in five days.
“Words matter. Don’t listen to Hillary,” Obama yelled to the four dozen media, beaming a mischievous smile. “That’s a joke.”
One reporter, sensing the rare opportunity to fire off a question, asked Obama about McCain’s criticism of his pledge to talk with Cuban president Raul Castro.
“I didn’t hear John McCain,” Obama said, even though his campaign put out a statement on that very topic 30 minutes earlier.
A second later, the Illinois senator disappeared behind the curtain – off to do an interview with US Weekly, the entertainment news magazine.
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And there is a debate tonight… MSNBC 8 PM ET. My guess, all of the several Hillarys show up.
** PS forgot to add, the handlettered sign is hard to read it also could be, Obama Will Make America Shine Like the Sun.
Either way…. the last big rally I saw, one of the ones in Ohio, was pretty much a Holy Roller event, certainly in the first rows. In my opinion, that is really, really old politics.
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yeah, that looks like “will” to me. if it were “-ville” they’d have written it in the same color as “obama,” i would think.
It looks like ‘will’ to me too ….
Looks like Edwards’ supporters are mostly going over to Obama …
Saw Leahy earlier, speaking obout Dodd’s endorsement of Obama and he said that Obama will sweept Vermont. Sounded like he too is backing Obama.
I wonder what went wrong with Hillary’s campaign? She’s not helping by attacking him as if he were a child … whose advice is that I wonder?
Hillary is still ahead in Ohio … so far.
Just lost the link, but I saw earlier that the Chairman of the Alabama Dem Party is asking for an FCC investigation into the blacking out of the 60 minutes show on the railroading of Dem Governor Siegelman in Alabama.
Also, his attorney is asking for a special prosecutor to look into the case.
Since Karl Rove is now implicated in the case and it is definitely tied to the US Attorney Scandal (plus there are charges now of judicial misconduct, as a Bush appointed judge over the case.) looks like it is a job for Congress ….
This case looks like the Repub plan to take over the DOJ and the judiciary, in action.
Meantime Siegelman sits in jail and presumably the crooked judge has heard many more cases since this one.
And Gonzales went free, and so far as I know, there hasn’t been a single prosecution of anyone who helped tear apart the judicial system in this country. Despite all the evidence from even Republicans.
Vintage Chomsky on Democracy Now. He gets right to the heart of the Arthur Gilroy “Them Aye Rabs Ain’t Like Us Merkens” propaganda.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/26/noam_chomsky_why_is_iraq_missing
The United States has become increasingly the most feared and often hated country in the world. Well, that perception is in fact incorrect. It’s fed by propaganda. There’s very little dislike of Americans in the world, shown by repeated polls, and the dissatisfaction—that is, the hatred and the anger—they come from acceptance of American values, not a rejection of them, and recognition that they’re rejected by the US government and by US elites, which does lead to hatred and anger.
I’m a recovering American; all this mystical American rhetoric no longer has power over me.
LOL
Both Dennis Perrin and IOZ have pieces on this dumb-as-rocks idea that there is such a thing as “anti war Democrats” or, imo, “anti-this-war-Democrats”…
legal gems from William Haynes:
“In this amazing brief,” Hilzoy writes, “Haynes argued that bombing a nesting site for migratory birds would benefit birdwatchers, since ‘bird watchers get more enjoyment spotting a rare bird than they do spotting a common one.’ Moreover, he added, the birds would benefit as well, since using their nests as a bombing range would minimize ‘human intrusion’. (from Frromkin’s column in todays WaPo.
“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.”
Matt Taibbi has a good article in Rolling Stone this week also, about the betrayal of the Democrats … pretending to be anti-war to get elected, then pushing the message, which I first saw in Jan. of last year on Daily Kos, that Dems had a ‘lot of work to do such as pushing through bills that would benefit the people’. While making excuses as to why they could not defeat a single Bush proposal on the war …
The Chicken Doves
[fixed the link — Mcat]
The NYT had a surprisingly good piece last spring, on the sell out, and the buy out, iwth cash numbers, of the better known so called anti war groups from Moveon and offshoots (Mattzei) to Tom Andrews’ Win Without War…
All very neat. And on schedule.
Messed up the link again … really am handicapped with this computer … trying again …
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/18349197/the_chicken_doves
According to Rev Lowery, John Lewis is finally going to do it.
Having read the Taylor Branch books on the Civil Rights Movement, I’d have a hard time saying anything critical of John Lewis.
He had to have been the most fearless protest leader in American history. I’m amazed he survived into the 1970s.
Then again, I guess the government didn’t kill him in the 1960s because unlike King and Malcolm X he never really struck anyone as having had the ability to be a leader of national stature that could change the political landscape.
I supported Julian Bond in the House race, all thsoe years ago. Don’t even remember why anymore.
it became a very nasty battle. I am sure because, as they knew all too well, there would be few seats ever allocated to Blacks.
My John Lewis knowlege goes from 1960 to about 1965 then stops. Then it picks up again in the late 1990s when I heard him on Democracy Now telling Amy Goodman how he learned to preach by preaching to his chickens growing up on the farm.
catnip, 142 in the last thread:
Probably because, to judge by this glowing profile on NPR this morning …
Admiral Presides over Peace in the Pacific …
Our diplomacy is now the province of the military commander responsible for half the globe.
We all know why, because Killing is our business, and business is good.
oops … forgot to close the blockquote after “India” … sorry!
Somebody (I think it’s Miss D) has a post up at pff asking what questions you’d like to ask the candidates tonite. I said, “for both of them: define ‘liberal'”.
It looks like Obama’s running away from that label:
Nothing like compromising who you are to appease the right-wingers – and this is just the beginning.
So that’s what “okey doke” supposedly means.
Everyone walk your dinosaur:
Why America is doomed … part umpteen million and two.
hat tip to Boing Boing.
The Torture Playlist
The strangest choices are the Eminem and Rage Against the Machine songs … they are so very much about how FUCKED UP Americans are in their attitudes toward “others”.
Oh, and if I was the Obama campaign, I’d make the press fucking work, too. Screw ’em. They don’t actually do any reporting anyway, so why bother showing them any deference? We’re so past that now … and they did it to themselves. I’m sure GE and Disney will keep cutting checks for them.
Our diplomacy is now the province of the military commander responsible for half the globe.
We all know why, because Killing is our business, and business is good.
I applauded one Liberal MP today during parliament’s debate on continuing the Afghanistan mission past 2009 until 2011 (which I obviously oppose) who pointed out that, for all the talk about reconstruction and human rights, the Conservatives had the minister of defence – not the prime minister or foreign affairs minister – start the debate, indicating exactly where they were coming from: the desire to continue fighting while supporting the MIC. He also pointed out that since Canada is part of a much broader mission, it’s not like we actually have much control over how things proceed there – something I have been writing about on my blog. His question, which caused me to write to thank him for asking it, was: Why are we there?
I had just written a post yesterday asking what we’re doing in Afghanistan. I saw from my stats a few minutes later that he actually checked it out while he was in the house of commons. At least I know someone in the Liberal party is listening. (The NDP and the Bloc are opposed to the extension but, with a whipped vote, it’s looking like the Liberals will prop up the Cons for the extension).
Obama, denying he’s a liberal, is in spamola.
I found the penning in of people odious. Period.
oh, thanks so much for the Perrin and IOZ. THIS made me laugh:
as if this nutty assertion was going to alter the Good Ship Abstention from its set course
He comes up with the best snarky nicknames.
Gawd, another debate.
Are we there yet? When can we stop for ice cream?
I have to pee!
I found the penning in of people odious. Period.
oh, yes, that sucks … but as far as pushing out the press? Can’t make myself care.
Huckabee endorses ‘personhood’ amendment
So, I assume he’s going to go after in-vitro clinics for murder?
I am not so unimformed to think ti is only obama. And for me, the press, the media is a range. Always has been always will be. Whenever pols do this it is to hide.
However venal members of the media and corporate ownership is.
I have to pee!
You’ll fit right in, b/c I think Clinton will be slinging poo at the screen like a chimp on a meth binge.
I assume he’s going to go after in-vitro clinics for murder?
Not to mention his precious fluffy Lord for all of those miscarriages.
FYI to catnip, not just you: Microsoft Hotmail blocked for some.
You’ll fit right in . . . like a chimp on a meth binge.
Aw shucks, MitM – thanks!
I’m all about spreading the love IB.
31. Thanks, IB. It’s working for me now. I thought it was part of the vast right-wing conspiracy this morning. 😉
What’s more fun that watching a debate between Obama & Clinton? Watching a debate between those two when the freezing is wearing off from that filling you had today. The horror, the horror…
Eddie Vedder, Bright Eyes on anti-war compilation
Tracklisting at the link. Some really good stuff on disc one.
pretty amusing, Max Boot in Commetary defends Samantha Powers.
oh horrors! Google at lowest $ on the market in 11 months.
Whatever will Silicon Valley DOOOOOOOOOOO.
File under “believe it if you see it”:
US generals ‘will quit’ if Bush orders Iran attack
A matter of conscience, or just another example of Americans only finding a “conscience” if they can’t WIN?
Max Boot in Commetary defends Samantha Powers
sometimes unlikely couples will stumble upon a shared interest in violent porn …
21 – Cool! Now ya just gotta get the MP to read these things in time for him to quote you in the House of Commons.
As liberal catnip pointed out yesterday, in her brilliant piece on x, y, and z, harumph harumph . . . .
35 – I heard Phil Donahue interviewed on WAMC recently about Body of War. Here’s the film website: http://www.bodyofwar.com/
About these “which Hillary will show up tonite?” comments in the MSM (based on her changing moods). Afaic, that’s a gender-based slur. She has different faces because (gasp!), she’s human. Obama has also shown changing faces of his personality – in the same range as Clinton – which leads me to suspect that this “hysterical woman who can’t control herself” charge is simply based on the fact that she’s female. What else could it be?
Now ya just gotta get the MP to read these things in time for him to quote you in the House of Commons.
I told him I’d be posting his comments as soon as the official record was up, so I suspect he’ll be back. 😉 (Workin’ it!)
oh… Boot and Powers just like war. LOL She was fully as breathless and pink when Sarko and Kouchner went in… as was Bush. And McCain. They all had the same smile when they would mention Sarko I noticed.
What else could it be?
because she’s a chick? /david byron
(MitM ducks and runs)
Oh Noes! George W. Bush Is Teh Secret Vietnamese!
Comcastic! Philly’s cable giant pays people off the street to pack hearing — on Internet free speech
Apparently, Obama is Walt Disney now too:
Comment:
Does that make Michelle Tinkerbell?
Duck and run? Not necessary.
Simply prepare . . . to shaaaaaare the love . . . of the whole huuuuuuuman faaaaaaamileeeee!
47. she’s going to have to duke it out with MSOC.
LOL IB …
Speaking of poo, of the shitting your pants variety, here’s a bit of bipartisan military policy.
Somebody put up a sign that obama as Disney does not mean a white elevated Monorail in every pot. Or City.
45. The wingnuts also went ballistic over this pic of Laura in a hijab. They really don’t care who might “look Muslim”. They’re such bed-wetters (oops…I’m sorry…”patriots”), they’ll even eat their own over it.
she’s going to have to duke it out with MSOC.
That would be…umm…”interesting”. lol
Somebody put up a sign that obama as Disney does not mean a white elevated Monorail in every pot. Or City.
Well, I think it’s about time that America had a fully-animated presidency in the Disney sense of the word. Viva Obama Gonzales! (Perhaps not the best character choice…how about Barack Bunny?)
well I have never thougth Western women should, as a blanket rule, adopt the headscarf when in places East of Rome.
It has always rankled with me.
Hillary, wearing a brown pantsuit resembling days-old oatmeal…
55. The wingnuttery pointed out that she was in American territory when she wore that. MAJOR faux pas, according to them.
Really BAD makeup on all of them.
49 – I knew of a donut shop in Montreal that Disney went after, with BIG legal guns, all for some goofy, I mean, Mickey-related pun in the title. They’re very serious about silly, you know!
Anyway, having heard the donut tale (now there’s a pff moniker) a decade ago, I’ve been waiting for Walt’s copyright-keepers to catch up to Emsock and her swarm of animated widgets for what, 2 years now?
(Not to mention the estates of one or two dead foreign artists. And I’ve just been assuming that Angelina Jolie has had other priorities.)
scary:
Dinging Hillary on the “crazy woman” schtick right off the bat.
Obama needs more lip gloss.
Blanket rule
LOL!
Cops Zap Naked Senior
Ooo…he just accused her of whining.
God’s Own Baby-Killers: Abortions Soar Where Religious Zeal Abounds
He’s sounding rather lawyerly so far this evening.
I think Hillary won the health care round.
Heeeere’s NAFTA!
Pillows? anybody got a pillow?
She just shot herself in the head..
How would a “trade time-out” work??
If I’m having trouble forcing myself to switch the channel from American Idol to the 20th Frickin Democratic Debate, well, I wanna see the viewership numbers from Nielsen or whatever tomorrow.
So far, it does sound like it’s all been set up as an epic battle with both lightning bolts and grounding.
Whoa – citing SNL to bitch about “first question” and media treatment.
Clinton’s defense of her
healthcareInsurance Industry Profits plan was horrible.WHY, why, why is single payer off the table EXCEPT for the fact that they are both horrible corporate toadies?
How would a “trade time-out” work??
One really big national naughty chair. The “Build the Chair” project alone creates million of jobs
70–at the point where she cited SNL in her defense?
She’s licking her lips at some sort of “Colbert bump”
NAFTA: There are a few places like Youngstown, Toledo, Akron, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Stuebenville, Lima, ….
75 – She’s down with the young people, baby. And still pissed off.
neither of their plans is defensible.
The whole party puts single payer off the table. It’s meaningless that Kucinich and Loebsack (who toppled Leach last go round) support it.
The “Build the Chair” project alone creates million of jobs
lol…they can park it beside The Fence.
Suit, whatya got on NAFTA? Highballs later? wink
which part was the shot in the head (I’m about 10 minutes behind the live feed on the DVR)? Was it the attack on kids who “think they’re immortal”? Does it occur to her that already living on ramen and popcorn is reason enough not to buy overpriced insurance?
neither of their plans is defensible.
I definitely agree with that. I just think she did a better job of selling hers.
76-where most of the population is.
One big national naughty chair
Beware of juice.
Blame Canada…we get no respect I tell ya.
Russert so far softballing The Suit.
Cue “Jaws” theme
I just think she did a better job of selling hers.
gak … they both sucked. She makes my teeth hurt, and he makes me want to hide my wallet.
I was waiting in line at Walgreens the other day with my packet of razor blades and bottle of Diet Coke. The Walgreens near me always has lines that make me wait 20 minutes. It’s also on the edge of “the ghetto/hood/inner city/whatever you want to call it”.
Anyway, there were these two women in line behind me (both black, early to mid 30ish) talking about skipping treatments for some illness or another to save money. I forget exactly what one of these women had, but she was saying that the treatment was working until she had to spend the money for something else. Now, she feels a little better since she got part of the treatment but would like to finish it but doesn’t have the money.
In other words, Hillary has a point. Both she and Obama dodge the obvious point (that we need real single payer health care) BUT if poor people have the option of not getting medical treatment because they’re living check to check and need the money, they will.
Oh shiyat– Russert now has one of those lint collecter things,working over Obamalam’s shoulder pad are…
Obama – the man with Cleopatra eyes.
fuck NAFTA … what about Free Capital in general? What about the World Bank and the rest of the neo-liberal system of economies of extraction?
NAFTA just one sore indicating a runaway infection.
gak … they both sucked.
Yes, but as you know, there are different levels of suckage. 🙂
Fuck, now Russert is giving Obam a hot shave while lambasting Hillaregi-ous. Barbershop III – the Debate Movie
Brian Williams::::
It’s Man-Love.
My Obama-cat just flung poo at the teevee while Hillary was speaking. Another Obama supporter behaving badly.
90 – Hey! Don’t be hating on him because he’s beautiful, little miss Jorge-and-Clooney fan. These things can’t be helped!
BTW – Care for a Kleeb? Oops, forgot . . . never mind the choice.
No boos for him on “Ready to give in to Bush on Day One”.. I think her head is about to explode
explain to me how destroying a country, shooting people in their homes, dropping 500 pound bombs on neighborhoods, is VALIANT, Senator Clinton.
Timmeh really loathes Hillary, apparently.
99. Your Amercian Exceptionalism in 10 Easy Lessons pamphlet will soon be arriving in your mailbox. Bonus Bible on audiotape included.
Care for a Kleeb?
Sure! Is there a drive-thru where I could pick him up?
More Jorge – less Timmeh.
Williams again
100 – well, so do I. Obama is bad, but Clinton just drives me up the fucking wall.
Bonus Bible on audiotape included.
Can I get the Virgin Mary blow-up doll with that order?
you have to admit this is better than stupid people talking. with the exception of Hillary invoking SNL, there is not much in the way of canned lines here.
I dearly want a pumpkin pie. To fling at you-know-who.
Mouthing these words like What if the Iraqis said they don’t WANT you there?!! What if they said GET OUT! GET OUT?!!, like Timmy’s ever given the slightest flying fuck about the notion, even for a fucking second, while preparing for his interviews with American leaders.
Where’s Goya when you need him? Somebody draw this dude, please.
Fuck, my bad..
Here I thought I was live blogging the Debate,
and I actually DO have the SNL rerun on…
His “no oversight on Afghanistan’ citing “the beginning of the campaign”
God, that is a media consultants wet dream
Can I get the Virgin Mary blow-up doll with that order?
That costs extra. Do you want the glo-in-the-dark model?
LOL They have Virgin Mary blow-up dolls???
What if the Iraqis said they don’t WANT you there?!! What if they said GET OUT! GET OUT?!!,
I seriously thought he was going to blow a major artery at that moment.
They have Virgin Mary blow-up dolls???
*innocent look*
blush
Busted.
Obama: “I’m not interested in speeches”.
I obviously picked the wrong week to stop snorting coke.
Atrios Style Deep Thought of the Day:
Pat Buchanan and Chris Matthews both agree that “Reagan won the Cold War.” They also think that if Obama gets to be President, he’ll get pnowned by Hugo Chavez exactly the way Kennedy got pnowned by Kruschev in Vienna.
This Ohio crowd is a quiet bunch. Are we sure they’re not just a hologram?
ugh, they both make me want to break my teevee, and I LOVE my teevee.
somebody will go toe-to-toe with the special interests
not to mention take their money and tongue kiss them.
This Ohio crowd is a quiet bunch.
Like Indiana and many other places in the “heartland”, very happy to sit quietly and follow directions.
Obama: “If you don’t want it to pass you vote against it”
Right. And that explains all of your “present” votes then?
off topic–I am a huge fan of Ananova’s Quirkies, and I recently read a story of a Romanian guy who returned his inflatable girl, because she wasn’t moaning properly, and she deflated too easily. His consumer complaint was upheld–there was an electrical defect in the moaning, and a structural defect in inflation.
This Ohio crowd is a quiet bunch. Are we sure they’re not just a hologram?
They did the phoney moon landing back in ’69.They now mostly do weddings, bar mitzvahs,
there was an electrical defect in the moaning, and a structural defect in inflation.
That’s not off topic … it perfectly describes our political system.
Maybe this explains it:
Timmeh is just DYING for a good “gotcha”.
God where is the zinger??? Just really easy set ups for him…I loathe the whole Clinton Op but not hard to see why they’re tearing their hair out…
and I recently read a story of a Romanian guy who returned his inflatable girl, because she wasn’t moaning properly,
I thought David Byron was English.
she is so lying on the question of not releasing their tax returns.
Rezko must be teed up next or the limo blowjob gig…
I think Timmeh has hemorrhoids.
Here we go
102 – Out on the range, they probably call it a ride-through. Do your own Googling! Try Nebraska and One-Hoss Stand.
120 – Consumer’s rights prevail! Truth in advertising forever! Was the plaintiff named Soj by any chance?
Smoooch….
loathe the whole Clinton Op but not hard to see why they’re tearing their hair out…
It’s the environment they’re living in, fighting in. It’s predictable. Quit fucking whining and find a way to disarm it. It’s nothing new.
She just looked like a moron on the tax filings question.
Pumkinhead moving in…
un-COM-fortable!
127 – Rezko must be teed up next or the limo blowjob gig…
Don’t be talking crazy, BHHM. Savin that for the general!
now with the easy out…
Try Nebraska and One-Hoss Stand.
I did last year. It didn’t work out.
Timmeh: KISS ISRAEL’S ASS OR ELSE!
Obama: Oh-tay! (smoooch!)
So Obama has to denounce Farrakhan for Farrakhan’s saying something Obama has no control of and yet Russert doesn’t have to denounce Pat Buchanan who’s ON THE MSNBC PAYROLL.
Oh yeah it would be nice if Obama said something about Gaza. It would also be nice if I found 100,000 dollars on the street.
Some of my best friends are Jewish…
throw in some tongue, Senator!
Some of my best friends are Jewish…
Yeah but you’re not a secret muslim.
Hillary: I LOVE ISRAEL TOO!
Yeah but you’re not a secret muslim.
I do wear “garb” now and then.
Maybe they should just bring out a fried Palestinian baby and make Obama and Hillary eat it on stage.
Hillary: I’M A BETTER ISRAEL-LOVER THAN OBAMA!
The audience..it’s alive! Who knew??
If there’s any better reason to vote for Nader than that little exchange I can’t think of it right now.
Clinton: I LOVE ISRAEL MORE! And risked my entire Senatorial campaign –and god-given right to power!
Obama: oh-tay! Farrakhan is ICKY! There, I said it! LOOOOOOOVE me!
Do you think Timmeh does a ventriloquist show with Williams on his knee during the commercial breaks?
137 – Sympathies.
139 – yet Russert doesn’t have to denounce Pat Buchanan who’s ON THE MSNBC PAYROLL.
Like I said, we need Goya.
It’s pretty amazing.
The Israel lobby is at least partly behind the Obama is a Secret Muslim smear and certainly behind the demonization of Muslims in general.
But Obama still has to suck up to them and if he actually said anything like “I think demonizing any religion is wrong, that includes Judaism and it includes Islam” he would have instantly be rendered “unelectable”.
Omigawd! They are now actually bring a bus on stage from the
Cleveland Regional Transit Authority.. Yeh I looked it up.LOL
Fwoomp!
Another one under the Bus.
oh, if the National Journal says it, then it MUST be true. Obama quickly assuring everybody that he’s not REALLY that liberal … “I’m the black Ronald Reagan!” …
liberal-denier!!
So Putin (Bill Clinton) is handpicking a successor he can control (Hillary). The HORRORS.
meant to add … so Obama was actually honest there … about not being a lib. whatever ‘lib’ means in this benighted Sparta.
Hang on Hills, Obama might win the Russian election too for all you know.
Obama might win the Russian election too for all you know.
Oh fuck. That means a secret Muslim will have hundreds of nukes at his fingertips.
Putin…boring…let’s talk about Hugo Chavez…he’s more fun.
LOL about Putins scuccessor:
Russert: You know anything about ‘im???
You know anything about ‘im???
Hillary: Some fucking Rusian. They’re all sneaky anyway so who cares.
Tongue?
You all are asking for it.
Timmeh: “and then Godzilla and that monster from Cloverfield attack our friends in Israel, and we find out that they were created by a secret Nazi cabal hiding in Serbia … WHAT WOULD PRESIDENT OBAMA DO?!?!!?!” (cups his chin in his chubby hands, flutters his lashes coquetishly). “Hmmmmmm?!?!”
Does anybody really think either of these two would do anything differently from McCain as far as foreign policy goes?
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oh, I heard there was a Gene Simmons sex tape floating around.
can you give a point for Obama for admitting he didn’t object strongly to the Schiavo shenanigans?
Boooooo!
oh, I heard there was a Gene Simmons sex tape floating around.
Ewww. I just threw up a bit.
oh, go ahead and hug, you crazy kids!
Poor Pandering
Ewww. I just threw up a bit.
Oh, is that in the tape, too?
#171 LOL. Uncle Madman
OK, Hillary! Now you talk pretty too?
“community organizer” drink!
can you give a point for Obama for admitting he didn’t object strongly to the Schiavo shenanigans
Maybe after I finish getting over my disgust over the pandering to the Israel lobby.
What Obama did tonight was act like John Kerry.
The Israel lobby is demonizing him as a “secret Muslim” (and they’re at least some of the people behind it) and he’s forced to suck up to them.
And yet, even though he’s a non Muslim and even though Muslims are being locked up without charges in this country and demonized in general, Obama was too gutless to denounce bigotry against Muslims or immigrants even once.
So he’s basically still sucking up to the Christian and pro-Israel right. No change. In fact, with Terri Schiavo it was passive. Now it’s active.
He lost a lot of my respect tonight. He’s nothing but the secret Muslim John Kerry.
Oh, is that in the tape, too?
No, but it comes in a baggie with the Virgin Mary blow-up doll.
ooooo, Clinton has a bit of inspiration … she’s writing out something on her little notepad.
Obama: I’m better because I’m the Magic Jeebus candidate! Did I mention that I organized poor people before I cashed in?!?! Like REAGAN!
OK, Hillary! Now you talk pretty too?
Go for the throat! C’mon!
He’s nothing but the secret Muslim John Kerry.
Bingo!
179–Mitm, that is such a bullshit comparison.
People get up everyday!
Unless they die in their sleep.
182 – I’m not the one making it, HE IS.
Clinton plays the sick baby card.
wow, that was like being forced to undergo an enema of heavy sedatives.
woo hoo! SPORTS METAPHORS!
Now we KNOW this is serious.
Mitm, that is such a bullshit comparison
No. It’s not.
Kerry was demonized for being part of the anti-war movement. He never stood up to it.
Obama is being demonized as a Secret Muslim. He never denounced anti-Muslim or anti-immigrant bigotry when he denounced Farrakhan.
If John Kerry didn’t eat pork, prayed to Mecca five times a day and was plotting another suicide attack on an American skycraper instead of just meeting with Jane Fonda in Hanoi and planning to demoralize the troops over lunch with Ho Chi Minh, they’d be the same guy.
Dee , re Schiavo, I think the Schiavo vote, admission of a “mistake” was mostly to say the name “Shiavo” with the word “mistake” in same sentence and directed at low information conservative voters who will hear what they want to hear, Confusing it as him being NOT on the “Pull the plug” “side” , ugh, such as the debate is framed..
Tweety: I HATE Hillary!
Andrea Mitchell: blah blah blah channellingbrooksandotherconventionalwisdom blah blah blah
Tweety: She’s still a bitch, and she LOVES NAFTA, oh, and Obama is boring in debates!
Olbermann: did you watch the same thing I did? What do you think David Gregory?
Gregory: I agree with Chris … HILLARY IS A BITCH! oh, and Obama is a cool dude, like Ferris Bueller, only he loves Israel more and would never sing ‘Twist and Shout’ in that German parade in Chicago!
Olbermann: pretty cool how they snuck in that promo for our corporate parent’s SNL program! Oh, and Obama IS a cool dude!
I found it interesting that he consistently called him Minister Farrakhan, even as he was denouncing, rejecting, condemning and abjuring him and all his works.
MSNBC quick poll:
Which candidate would you rather play hooky from school with?
__ Ferris Obama?
__ His bitchy sister Hillary?
I found it interesting that he consistently called him Minister Farrakhan, even as he was denouncing, rejecting, condemning and abjuring him and all his works.
AHA. Secret Muslim.
lol MitM
re: Obama & Schiavo…I didn’t even know about that and his bringing it up might actually work against him in some circles.
My favorite part of Obama’s book is where he borrowed the sports car and drove into the city, then had sex on a train with a hot tramp …
oh, wait, I’m getting my eighties Chicago teen fantasies mixed up.
Uncle Madman!
My favorite part of Obama’s book is where he borrowed the sports car and drove into the city, then had sex on a train with a hot tramp
You’re confusing Secret Muslims with Secret Scientologists.
KO: bombing Pakistan thus agreeing with Bush – good or better for Obama?
Timmeh: Better! I heart Bush!
Obama, he’s what ALL the North Shore Liberals want.
Scientologists don’t have sex. Sheesh.
re: Obama & Schiavo…I didn’t even know about that and his bringing it up…- catnip
I agree catnip he excessively (lol) pandered at the end.
10 yards and loss of down
You’re confusing Secret Muslims with Secret Scientologists.
Sometimes you just have to say “What the fuck!”
Obama grows – right in front of your eyes. He’s like a Chia Pet. Chia Obama. Get yours today!
190 – Reminds me of holding a nephew in a white lace dress at a Polish Catholic church, having been assured that my role was perfunctory, no oaths involved. HA ha ha ha. (What can I say, I was young. You should have seen the maid of honor dress. GREEN FEATHERS?)
Next thing you know, I’m asked to denounce the Devil. Huh?! OK, whatever. Choke choke. Mumble, nod.
And all his works.
WTF?!
Russert said something like
“Thus far she never really apologized for her vote on the war.
Tonight, I think she did”
Yeh a year and a half into the campaign, now thats shes LOSING. baaaarf.
If I have to watch that commercial where the guy’s using a cell phone his daughter bought him one more time I’m going to scream.
PS: The nephew wore white lace, not me.
You Listen to me , Mr. What the Fuck.
I’m asked to denounce the Devil.
Oh, sorry about the Risky Busines train scene link then … I’m obviously not helping you with that responsibility.
If I have to watch that commercial where the guy’s using a cell phone his daughter bought him
Which is so fucking offensive on so many levels. I hate that commercial almost as much as I hate the Dennis Hopper investment commercials.
LOL. It’s hard out their for Guido the Pimp.
But that phone’s HOT!
before i die i will appropritely spell the differebce between there and their..
and *appropriately so
OK, now I dearly need a yellow canary pie.
It’s hard out their for Guido the Pimp
I wonder who he lobbies for now?
Oh, wait, I know who!.
Guido hates net neutrality!
How did we ever get stuck with the fucking idiot Russert? He’s been on this kick for how long now of hypotheticals.
“It’s March 23, 2010. It’s raining. You’ve just had an omelette. Fiji launches a nuclear strike on Andorra. Will you retaliate?
Will you? Will you?“
Rachel Maddow is dead on. That debate sucked the air out of the room. John Kerry and Mike Dukakis in blackface with tits.
Somewhere McCain is laughing his hairy wrinkled old white ass off.
217 – that’s how Big Russ told him how they did it on the beaches of Normandy!
I feel like I just chugged a fifth ‘a Jack.
Those MSNBC pundits are just itching to write Hillary’s obituary.
Four and twenty TVbirds, baked in a pie. . . .
BTW, that shadowy lobby group has been running their spooky FISA ad against frosh Hillebrand here, lately.
Oops – abandon slurs! Abandon slurs! Upstate NY dumps another Repub, in special election today!
http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=1&aid=78868
Backround from Newsday here:
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny–senate-specialele0226feb26,0,4497963.story
wow, the Repub lost that election, despite having two lines on the ballot?
You snooze. you lose.
From Witness in Police Killing, Tearful Recall of a Party Gone Bad
“As I’ve said all along, the winds of change are blowing in Albany _ and tonight they are blowing from the North Country,” Aubertine said.
The candidates spent most of that money on negative television ads attacking each other both politically and personally.
Oops – 222 should read Gillibrand.
Must snooze . . . .
new thread……………
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