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Well… that is my view of their “big tent”… 5 April 2008

Posted by marisacat in 2004 Election, 2006 Mid Terms, 2008 Election, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.

     well... that is my view of their big tent... ;)

Just a picture to hold up a thread………..  on a Saturday….




1. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

Taliban welcome back an old friend

KARACHI – Like a voice from the grave, legendary Afghan mujahideen leader Jalaluddin Haqqani has emerged from years of silence to boldly launch the Taliban-led spring offensive in Afghanistan, at the same time burying any doubts of a split between his coalition of resistance groups and Mullah Omar’s Taliban.

In a video message released last week and which is only now coming into wider circulation, Haqqani, speaking in his trademark low-pitched voice and with his hair dyed red with henna, called on the people of Afghanistan “to stand up against the US-led forces in Afghanistan and drive them out”.

Apparently, the news of his death was greatly exaggerated:

“They projected the rumor that Jalaluddin Haqqani had died in Dubai [in the United Arab Emirates]. I am neither a shopkeeper nor a trader that I would travel to Dubai. Neither am I a politician who roams all around the world … the Americans thought that with their developed technology they could plant the news of my death in the media. But now the media are realizing their lies to demoralize the mujahideen,” Haqqani said.

2. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

Off on a completely different track: Food additives ‘could be as damaging as lead in petrol’

In particular, I found this interesting:

Researchers have linked E-numbers to behavioural problems since the 1970s but the debate has intensified after the Southampton study, published last September, found that seven additives such as sunset yellow (E110) and tartrazine (E102) were causing temper tantrums among normal children.

I had to stop allowing my daughter to eat Cheeze Whiz as a kid because it made her uncontrollably hyper – not that it was any good for her anyway and sugar was a definite no no – but at least I know why that reaction happened all of these years later.

I didn’t have the internets back then and when I asked the doctors if it could be based on something organic or chemical, they refused to test her (which resulted in several ‘bang head against the wall’ sessions for me).

3. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

From a McClatchy article on Obama’s ‘brainy advisers’ comes this about Goolsbee:

He even penned an economic defense in March 2007 of the sub-prime loans that have helped trigger the nationwide housing crisis.


And this:

One measure of his passion for communicating economics is clear on Goolsbee’s Web site: He posted a picture of himself in a tuxedo delivering an economics lecture hours before his wedding in 1997.

(nerd alert!!)

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 5 April 2008

Thanks so much for the Clarkson/Sharlet link in the last thread. One reason I’m as disgusted w/ “liberals” as wingers is the unwillingness or inability to pull back and look at the big picture, rather than falling into picking teams. It’s stupid, and leads to all kinds of horrors.

Speaking of clueless libs, much crowing over this court decision:

Walls close in on Phelpses
Judge orders liens on church building, law office
By Mike Hall
The Capital-Journal
Published Friday, April 04, 2008

A federal judge in Maryland on Thursday ordered liens on the Westboro Baptist Church building and the Phelps-Chartered Law office.

If the case presided over by U.S. District Court Judge Richard D. Bennett is upheld by an appeals court, the church, at 3701 S.W. 12th, and the office building, at 1414 S.W. Topeka Blvd., could be obtained by the court and sold, with the proceeds being applied toward $5 million in damages Bennett imposed on church members for picketing a military funeral.

A lien is a legal hold on property, making it collateral against money owed to a person or entity. It can keep the owner from selling the property or transferring title to the property.

The $5 million penalty is the result of a lawsuit filed against three of the church’s principals by Albert Snyder, the father of Marine Lance Cpl. Matthew A. Snyder, whose funeral was picketed by church members.

The senior Snyder contended the picketing caused emotional distress and invasion of privacy.

They will be penalized for EMOTIONAL DISTRESS. Will IVAW be next? Any anti-war protesting group?

Phelps and his church are disgusting, but speech should be fought with opposing speech.

5. Madman in the Marketplace - 5 April 2008

More Zionist agitprop on the front page of the NY Time’s site:

Town Under Fire Becomes a Symbol for Israel

Sderot, a town near Gaza that has been pounded by Palestinian rockets, has become a symbol of Israel’s battle for legitimacy. Money is pouring in for bomb shelters.

Who are the occupiers here? Who are the people with no legitimacy? Who is editing that fucking paper? I’m sorry for the innocent civilians in that town, but the lack of balance in this kind of coverage, the willful blind eye turned to the bloody repression that creates a need to strike back makes me sick.

I won’t link to the piece of shit.

6. Madman in the Marketplace - 5 April 2008

Timing, Two-Timing, And Truthiness

About the tax returns, timing, and Mark Penn shilling for the Columbian “free” trade deal.

7. Miss Devore - 5 April 2008

6. Hillary was ready before day one. Honestly her campaign is such a mess that it is the best indicator that her presidency would not be run by her. It’s amazing that she hasn’t ditched Penn. She ditches her loyal girl first, and keeps hubby’s loyal boys on. I thought she “found her voice” in NH. Whoops, she lost it again. She has a real talent for picking men for whom her best interest is secondary.

8. marisacat - 5 April 2008

I am for shoving both of them over a cliff. AND their paid help. And their attorney friends. AND their children.

But really, Balloon Juice is smoking something here:

When your average right-wing blogger wants to prove or disprove something, generally the first thing they do is CONTACT the people in the middle of the situation.

LOL The past 24 hours for the right has been a last gasp slobber fest for WFB. Who was grandly memorialised at St Patty’s yesterday. Kissinger and Hitchens both were n attendance.

I am sure his fondest wish is to meet up with angels with an HIV warning tattoo’d on their plump butts.

What a tawdry joke it all is, has been.

9. marisacat - 5 April 2008

hmmm… if you snooze you won’t be losing… gah. Can it get worse…


-ABC’s ‘This Week’ – Sens. Jim Webb, D-Va., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean.

-CBS’ ‘Face the Nation’ – Howard Dean.

-NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’ – Sen. Bob Casey Jr., D-Pa.; Gov. Ed Rendell, D-Pa.; Michael Eric Dyson, author of a book on Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. ; Andrew Young, former Atlanta mayor and an aide to King during the civil rights movement.

-CNN’s ‘Late Edition’ – Martin Luther King III; Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.; Catholic University President David O’Connell; Sens. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and John Cornyn, R-Texas; Robert Reich, former labor secretary; Douglas Holtz-Eakin, adviser for John McCain’s presidential campaign.

-‘Fox News Sunday’ – Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and John Kerry, D-Mass.; Joe Urschel, executive director of the Newseum media museum.

10. bayprairie - 5 April 2008

Duncan Black hit a new all-time low today.

I recommend reading this primer by DHinMI.

11. wilfred - 5 April 2008

#2 Thanks LC for that food additive link. I’ve sent it to all my friends and family with kids.

This is an important issue, along with genetically modified foods, which are sadly legal here and not even labeled yet so many countries refuses to allow them. Is Canada one of them LC?

12. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

11. Afaik, the labelling requirements for GM foods here are still pretty loose ie. you’d need to know what to look for when reading the labels. Plus, the standards are voluntary. And we do have safety testing – as far as that goes – which, I understand, the US doesn’t.

Then there’s the controversy over what’s really organic and what isn’t.

Honestly, without actually producing your own food via having a garden with seeds you can trust and control over herbicides, pesticides and fertilizers, it’s tough out there for parents who want to feed their kids (and themselves) properly.

Like I said, I had to rely on the small amount of published info I had as a parent at the time to figure out how some foods were affecting my daughter’s behaviour. One of my brothers had given me the book Psycho Nutrition back then, which was an eye opener. I specifically remember a story from that book about a woman who hadn’t been heard from after Easter who, as a result of the chocolate she had eaten, had slipped into some sort of a coma. I also bought The Feingold Cookbook for Hyperactive Children which I tried to rely on somewhat. But the best research I did was just watching her reactions. As a single parent though, with no garden and not much accessibility to healthy foods (other than via the health food stores which was pretty expensive), it was an uphill battle.

13. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

I should add that in the case of my daughter, I’m not talking about just regular tantrums. She had uncontrollable rage episodes that she couldn’t even recall once they were done. It wasn’t garden-variety hyperactivity so finding some kind of help was crucial. There were the milder episodes – her eyes would literally glaze over when she ate Cheeze Whiz or drank pop and her energy outbursts in those cases were of the super-hyper variety.

Having gone through that, I really wonder how many of today’s kids who are now being diagnosed as having bipolar disorder are really just reacting to what’s in their food because I saw the manic/depressive swings my daughter went through and she wasn’t, imho, biploar – nor was she ever dx as such.

14. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

Disclaimers: The author of the book Psycho-nutrition, Carlton Fredericks was convicted or practicing medicine without a license in 1944 in NY. That book was written in 1983. I see he had a longstanding radio show where he discussed these issues though.

The Feingold book was controversial when it came out but he was ahead of the curve, obviously, when it came to looking at the role of additives etc. and their effects on behaviour.

I’ve also been researching the role of nutrition as it relates to my pain and fatigue levels due to lupus and fibromyalgia lately and was surprised to find out what I should be avoiding – beans, processed meats, tomatoes, alfalfa sprouts etc. I’m trying to modify my diet as a result.

15. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

10. Why do you consider that to be a new low, bayprairie? Just curious.

16. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

Colombia to Penn: You’re Fired

How about ‘Hillary to Penn: You’re Fired’?

17. Intermittent Bystander - 5 April 2008

People get ready . . . it’s time for another round of repudiation!

Obama campaign: McCain not a ‘warmonger’, Campaign disowns comment by rally’s host before candidate’s speech.

This time the naughty rabble rouser was Ed Schultz.

18. marisacat - 5 April 2008


I think the R are gonna keep up a drum beat on this one.

They are picking their themes and one is that Barack has no intention of ending the war.

I read just today that Shultz used to be a conservative R. Now claims to be a “liberal” Democrat….

LOL Whatever!

19. Intermittent Bystander - 5 April 2008

Reminds me of the silly old joke – you can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can’t wipe your friends off on the couch.

Nowadays, with the eager assistance of Sunday morning talk-show hosts, yes we can do the latter thing, too.

In other interesting news: Paternity Test Hits Drugstores Nationwide.

Social developments to follow. . . .

20. marisacat - 5 April 2008

What a laugh… I just read at Politico that although Obama has “denied” the word that Shultz used (sigh, campaign as minuet!)… R are calling for him to intervene personally.

The hedge clippers are out!

21. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

Someone dropped me this link. Interesting and troubling. U.S. supervising training of elite PA unit in Jordan.

22. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

McCain is a warmonger. What’s the big deal?

23. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008
24. marisacat - 5 April 2008

LOL hedge clipping.

McCain relates it back to the incident with Cunningham, theradio guy (think he is that… ) who used “Hussein” three times while into-ing McC. McCain was not present for it, but showily called it out.

I thought then it was a neat, too neat, set up for McCain to later use.


Plus as I pointed out, they will be developing the theme that Barack has no intention of withdrawing from the war. War Monger right back at you!

25. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

24. they will be developing the theme that Barack has no intention of withdrawing from the war.

Well, that was my first thought: there’s not much daylight between them in terms of their foreign policy. McCain’s the public nutbar with his bomb Iran and 100 years in Iraq blather but, other than that…

26. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

From the last thread, I see Children of Men is on here tonite so I’ll check it out.

27. melvin - 5 April 2008

26- Hope you have a nice tv. Check out the cinematography. I loved Michael Cain’s scenes.

28. bayprairie - 5 April 2008

jesus h. fuckin’ joseph smith, Jr. christ it musta been a 24/7 mormon-sex palace.

52 wasn’t bad enough?

look what the the state of texas does after 24 hours of talking to the women and girls.

Texas removes 183 women and girls from sect ranch.

Texas Child Protective Services spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner said the 183 consisted of 137 girls and 46 women, but she could not discuss why they were taken from the ranch or whether they had left voluntarily.

these guys are liable to give the catholic priests an even run for their money.

29. wilfred - 5 April 2008

#26 I think you’ll like Children of Men. It’s beautifully done.

30. Madman in the Marketplace - 5 April 2008

Children of Men and Pan’s Labyrinth were the two best movies of last year, IMHO.

They’re all war mongerers.

31. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

It was definitely riveting and the cinematography was great. I suspected that was Michael Cain from the voice. I was surprised to see that it was adapted from a PD James novel. The only ones I’ve read have been mysteries that didn’t border on science fiction at all.

32. marisacat - 5 April 2008

hmmm something about from his dead cold grip?

Charlton Heston died………………………………………………

33. Miss Devore - 5 April 2008

32. and he didn’t blog……from nytimes article:

“Other bloggers complain of weight loss or gain, sleep disorders, exhaustion and other maladies born of the nonstop strain of producing for a news and information cycle that is as always-on as the Internet.”

dammit, I must been napping when that happened.

good old CH. the straight Michelangelo. Someone peel his fingers from the gun.

34. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

Interesting that, according to the WaPo, the family won’t say what killed him.

35. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

I suppose Ted Nugent could play at his funeral.

36. Miss Devore - 5 April 2008

“The actor played the role of leader offscreen as well. He served as president of the Screen Actors Guild and chairman of the American Film Institute and marched in the civil rights movement of the 1950s. ”

and then he lost his mind, I guess.

{waves to catnip} [gets slapped]

37. Miss Devore - 5 April 2008

am canceling my soylent green order for this week.

38. melvin - 5 April 2008
39. marisacat - 5 April 2008


I loved the interview with Vidal where he recounted having told Reed that the background to the story was a love affair with Charlton/Ben Hur and to play it that way, but not to tell CH.

What a scream!!

40. melvin - 5 April 2008

I wonder if there is anyone who’s had more fun than Vidal, grim as it may be. It isn’t often remarked on, but I admire him for taking what cold joy he can from this dismal world.

41. marisacat - 5 April 2008

I know, I really lov him. When he dies I will just go to bed for a few days…

There is a link to a great 1996 Pacifica radio conversation (transcript) between Jerry Brown and Vidal in this post.

42. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

Vidal is definitely a rare gem.

43. melvin - 5 April 2008

Speaking of, I guess everyon saw Vidal’s “eulogy” for Buckley:

Rot in hell, asshole

44. marisacat - 5 April 2008

ooo no I had not seen it.. thanks for that. I waited a bit for one, then thought maybe he was really going to let it go…. for months maybe.

45. wu ming - 5 April 2008

i remember you linking to that transcript earlier, it gave me a lot more appreciation for brown, even given his most recent incarnation as cop-happy oakland mayor.

pity vidal doesn’t get invited on the teevee anymore. sharp wit.

46. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

Ride ’em cowboy:

BUTTE, Mont. – Hunting for votes out West, Democrat Barack Obama on Saturday rejected the idea that the region’s sparsely populated states aren’t important in the presidential race and renewed his promise to appoint a high-level adviser on Indian issues if elected.

Okay, first of all, who said those states weren’t important?

Secondly, you still have “Indians” in the US? Who knew?

Accusing President Bush of weakening civil rights, Obama appealed to the independent pioneer tradition of his audience. “If you live out here in big sky country, I know you believe in civil liberties,” he said.

Obviously pandering to the redneck militia voters. 😉

And then he had a Bush moment:

“Here’s the thing, Missoula — I just like saying Missoula, by the way. It’s a good name. Missoula. A lot of vowels,” Obama said.

47. liberalcatnip - 5 April 2008

pity vidal doesn’t get invited on the teevee anymore. sharp wit.

He’s still on Canadian teevee.

48. melvin - 5 April 2008

Actually catnip all the American Indians I know refer to themselves as Indians, believe it or not. I understand it is very different even jsut across the border in BC.

49. liberalcatnip - 6 April 2008
50. liberalcatnip - 6 April 2008

48. Ours call themselves ‘first nations’ people now. I’d have to google to find out when that change came about. It wasn’t that long ago.

I was just surprised that Obama even mentioned native American people. They’re so invisible.

51. marisacat - 6 April 2008

btw, text of Obama remarks at the dinner in Missoula, or Butte or whatever.

52. marisacat - 6 April 2008


oh yeah Jerry’s a mess. No question he green lighted the rubber bullets at the demonstrators. Just as, IMO, Villaraigosa green lit the MacArthur Park event during the immigration protests and marches.

And these assholes will be with us forever as they square dance their way thru term limits.

Think it was the late 90s when Jerry saw fit to say that the DP was “not the party of black people”. High defensive mode in full action. Not to worry Jerry, ven with Obama in the WH it still won’t be.

what a joke it all is.

53. liberalcatnip - 6 April 2008

51. “And I believe that the United States of America can remain the last, best hope of Earth.”

Oh puhleeze. If that’s the case, we’re all doomed.

54. liberalcatnip - 6 April 2008

Irony. Apparently, there was a stampede when someone yelled ‘Is there a doctor in the house?’

55. marisacat - 6 April 2008


Oh I loved it! Esp how hard he hit Newsqueak. They do hve a very tiesome simpering bunch there.

56. Madman in the Marketplace - 6 April 2008

Taibbi goes after Clinton.

Isn’t Hillary Clinton better qualified than Barack Obama to be president, given that she is the more experienced candidate?
The idea that Clinton is somehow more qualified to deal with international crises because she has more “experience” is one of the strangest things I’ve seen the media swallow whole in a long time, dating back to the “tiny, sand-covered, yet-to-master-the-art-of-plumbing nation of Iraq is an imminent military threat to the United States” fiasco. According to my calculations —worked out over many hours, using long division out to eighteen places —Clinton is a second-term senator, while Barack Obama, conversely, is a first-term senator. By any reasonable standard, both are political neophytes.

Clinton talks a lot about having visited “over eighty countries” —but then, Chelsea was with her on a lot of those trips, and I doubt folks are rushing to hand her the red phone. In case anyone has forgotten what exactly first lady Hillary Clinton really did all those years, here is a press account of a 1997 trip that she made to Senegal with her daughter: “Her first stop in Senegal was at Goree Island, where she peered through the ‘Door of No Return,’ through which slaves passed on their way to the dreaded Middle Passage of the Slave Trade. When she arrived in Dakar, the first lady was greeted by Senegalese who danced and serenaded her with lyrics written especially for the occasion.” Shit, I feel better about that 3 a.m. phone call already!

It is worth noting that Hillary was being packed off on these trips into the heart of Africa at precisely the time when her husband was getting his knob polished by an intern in the Oval Office. That’s not a reflection on her personally —but for the Hillary camp to tout her advantage in foreign affairs based on these trips into the marital wilderness, as compared to a candidate who has actually lived overseas and has actual relatives living in villages like the ones Hillary passed over in her glass-bottomed boat, is beyond absurd.

It’s an interesting mess. The usual fratboy misogyny that one would expect, and the piece is plastered with Obama ads.

Are the Clinton camp’s attacks against Obama racist?
Not really. What they are is opportunistic. The Clintonian campaign philosophy is basically an inverse of the Nixonian Southern Strategy: It accepts as gospel the notion that the old coalition of white labor and blacks that kept the South Democratic for generations has been severed forever by the rise of evangelical Christianity and social conservatism. Therefore the Clintons don’t try to win back those white workers in the lost Southern states through, say, a more staunch advocacy of unions; instead, they try to pry away Nixon’s old “silent majority” voters by courting the same fears about safety and national security that Tricky Dick used to take the South away from Democrats in the first place.

It’s no accident that Hillary ran her “3 a.m.” commercial in Texas but not Ohio; this was a cunning ploy to win back those scared white voters whom the Clinton strategy insists are needed to win. And it worked: After the ad, her support among white Texans jumped from forty-four to fifty-six percent. Does it help that her opponent is a black dude with a Muslim middle name? Sure. But the fearmongering by the Clintons is more about winning blue-collar votes without alienating their big-business buddies than it is about exploiting fears of a black planet. With the Clintons, ideology is always whatever gets them through the night. They haven’t been reduced to balls-out, Willie Horton racism yet. That’s not to say that they won’t get there —they’re just not there yet.

57. marisacat - 6 April 2008

well RS endored Obama in a big Jann Wenner slobber. And, at least from what I read as I did nto go back, they changed the title on an earlier 2007 RS piece on the radical (oh yeah so rad) Wright underpinning of our friend Obama.

I so look forward to the non existant smaller liberal press excusing his bombing blacks, somewhere in Africa, Somalia, Chad, Congo, Niger Delta, Darfur, etc. I so look forward to the “blooding” of the Obama administration.

Not that there is any choice. There is not. When you whittle away the rhetoric, she is selling endurance. He sells sainthood and some odd bloodless recovery for whites.

it is all heinous.

58. Madman in the Marketplace - 6 April 2008

Did the Elites Want MLK Dead–If So, Why?

King’s famous denunciation of America’s war in Vietnam came exactly a year before his murder, before a crowd of 3,000 in the Riverside Church in Manhattan. He described Vietnam’s destruction at the hands of ”deadly Western arrogance,” insisting that ”we are on the side of the wealthy, and the secure, while we create a hell for the poor We were taking the black young men who had been crippled by our society and sending them eight thousand miles away to guarantee liberties in Southeast Asia which they had not found in southwest Georgia and East Harlem.” US Army spies secretly recorded black radical Stokely Carmichael warning King, “The Man don’t care you call ghettos concentration camps, but when you tell him his war machine is nothing but hired killers you got trouble.” Carmichael was right.

After the 1967 Detroit riots 496 black men under arrest were interviewed by agents of the Army’s Psychological Operations Group, dressed as civilians. It turned out King was by far the most popular leader. That same year, watching the great antiwar march on Washington in October 1967 from the roof of the Pentagon Major General William Yarborough, assistant chief of staff for Army intelligence, concluded that “the empire was coming apart at the seams”. He thought there were too few reliable troops to fight the war in Vietnam and hold the line at home.

The Army increased surveillance on King. Green Berets and other Special Forces veterans from Vietnam began making street maps and identifying sniper sites in major American cities. The Ku Klux Klan was recruited by the 20th Special Forces Group, headquartered in Alabama, as a subsidiary intelligence network. The Army began offering 30.06 sniper rifles to police departments, including that of Memphis. King was dogged by spy units through early ’67. A Green Beret unit was operating in Memphis the day he was shot. The bullet that killed him came from a 30.06 rifle purchased in a Memphis store. Army intelligence chiefs became increasingly hysterical over the threat of King to national stability.

After his Vietnam speech the major US newspapers savaged King. Fifteen years later the New York Times was still bitter when the notion of a national holiday honoring the civil rights leader was being pressed–with ultimate success–by labor unions and black groups. “Why not a Martin Luther King Day?” an NYT editorial asked primly. “Dr King, a humble man, would have objected to giving that much importance to any individual. Nor should he be given singular tribute if that demeans other historical black figures.” Give one of them a holiday and they’ll all be wanting one.

59. Madman in the Marketplace - 6 April 2008
60. marisacat - 6 April 2008

I liked the Counterpunch Cockburn piece on martin, when I read it yesterday… in fact they had several good articles. Also one by Greg Moses.

61. marisacat - 6 April 2008

Q:One of your biggest applause tonight came when you talked about getting out of Iraq. But you also talked about the importance of protecting America if military action is needed. What is your position on the doctrine of preemptive war?

A:I’m not a doctrinaire. I think each situation is different.

Here’s my basic principle: That in each circumstance you weigh the costs and benefits of military action. You don’t hesitate to take military action if that’s what’s required to keep the American people safe, but you understand that there are costs to military action — that unless there is a direct and imminent threat to the United States that has to be dealt with rapidly, that it is important for the president to help guide a discussion with allies and with the American people around good intelligence, and an understanding of all the ramifications of any action.

I think a great example of good decision-making was the first Gulf War. When George Bush’s father had good intelligence, took the time to build the alliances, gained legitimacy, and by the time we acted, we had the power to do it quickly, do it efficiently and actually enhance U.S. power. What his son did in Iraq is the complete reverse.

Obama has a sit down iwht a MT paper… Great Falls Tribune

Still hunting for that Daddy. So damned sick of it.

62. Madman in the Marketplace - 6 April 2008

Dennis Perrin:

While he has yet to pick a running mate, John McCain did introduce his official campaign mascot: Gooky, a severed Vietnamese head that McCain will carry by the hair to each public appearance as a reminder of his service and devotion to duty.

“Gooky was a Vietcong guerrilla that a buddy of mine killed,” said the GOP frontrunner. “When I came back to the States, Gooky was given to me as a homecoming present. He’s been a good luck charm for me, and with a tough election ahead” — McCain waved Gooky to the press, flashing a thumb’s up — “I’ll need all the luck I can get!”

63. Madman in the Marketplace - 6 April 2008

8 Year Old Suspended for Sniffing a Magic Marker

I wonder if the next step is putting them in detention if they’re caught spinning around until they’re dizzy?

64. Madman in the Marketplace - 6 April 2008
65. Madman in the Marketplace - 6 April 2008

Another update on the blocking of “abortion” as a search term on Popline:

The Popline search site is funded by the U.S. Agency for International Development, or USAID, the federal office in charge of providing foreign aid, including health care funding, to developing nations.

Under a Reagan-era policy revived by President Bush in 2001, USAID denies funding to non-governmental organizations that perform abortions, or that “actively promote abortion as a method of family planning in other nations.”

Sandra Jordan, director of communications in USAID’s office of population and reproductive health, could not identify the documents that prompted her office’s complaint, but said the publications were one-sided in favor of abortion rights.

“We are part of the Bush administration, so we have to make sure that all parts of the story are told,” says Jordan. “The administration’s policy is definitely anti-abortion, and the administration does not see abortion as a part of family planning policy.”

So how is blocking that information “mak(ing) sure that all parts of the story are told”? I’m sure that they haven’t erased entries about abstenance “education”.

66. marisacat - 6 April 2008

They don’t want anyone to view it as a medical procedure. It has to be some heavily weighted moral issue. Just as Howard Dean saluted Casey for his “conscience”: Just as Reid, knowing th outcome, advised Democrats in congress to be free to vote “their conscience” as the congress passed a law having to do with one person (Schiavo).

God forbid that reality or science intrude.

Fuck that shit.

67. diane - 6 April 2008

I’ve always disliked Sundays and never been able to get to the heart of my gut reaction….it has always seemed to be beyong having to go to work the next day; or late in the evening, if on swing shift.

I’m hoping I can elucidate, if not only to myself, on that gut rumbling, before I leave this plain/plane.

and yes, I DO believe in an asexual God……….

68. diane - 6 April 2008


69. diane - 6 April 2008


in retrospect, that would be grave shift, not swing……..

It’s been awhile…..

or has it really?

70. diane - 6 April 2008

Must now put on James Brown’s Night Train………
After listening to Jose Feliciano sing the fuck out of Sunny

And then Don Mcleans Vincent, and some fine, lesser known pieces……….

71. diane - 6 April 2008

leading up to Ms. Simone……..

72. diane - 6 April 2008

who gave up the ghost directly after “they” bombed the FUCK OUT OF IRAQ

73. liberalcatnip - 6 April 2008
74. liberalcatnip - 6 April 2008

Don Mcleans Vincent,

One of my favourite songs.

75. diane - 6 April 2008

shit can’t find the Don McLean, but Fairuz will do just fine…just want to hear another human with a large and beating heart…

76. diane@connect.com - 6 April 2008

kisses to Nepetia catmint, anyone who loves that song, loves kindness………….

77. diane - 6 April 2008

Disc 2, Song Seven, on the Nina Anthology:

Why? (the King of Love is Dead)……………..

78. liberalcatnip - 6 April 2008

US soldiers killed in Green Zone

Three US service personnel have been killed and 31 wounded by rocket attacks on the Green Zone and a base elsewhere in Baghdad, the US military has said.

The rocket attack at 1530 (1230 GMT) on the Green Zone, which houses government offices and foreign embassies, killed two personnel and wounded at least 17.

A separate attack at the same time on a forward operating base in the Rustamiya district killed another and injured 14.

The attacks came after fighting between US and Iraqi forces and a Shia militia.

Twenty-two people were killed and more than 50 others injured in the clashes in the capital’s eastern district of Sadr City, a stronghold of the Mehdi Army.

The militia’s leader, radical Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr, has called for a mass demonstration in three days’ time against the US military presence.

I guess we’ll have to see what shiny, happy Petraeus has to say about that.

79. liberalcatnip - 6 April 2008

DHinMI tries to cast Obama as the new MLK and gets a much-deserved smackdown. The defense from O supporters? Well, you can’t expect a politician to actually have morals now, can you? That would be political suicide.

Btw, Obama’s continual worship of Bush 1 is nauseating.

80. liberalcatnip - 6 April 2008

Softening up torture, the WaPo calls it ‘permissable assaults’. If there’s anyone who rightly deserves the label ‘monster’, it’s John Yoo.

81. diane - 6 April 2008

Nina broke just like a little girl?? girlymen?

fockers , kiss my asssssssss until you want to start dealing with the reality and responsibility of being a human being……………a human being with the capacity to effect change for the better………..

82. diane - 6 April 2008

….funkier than a mosquitos tweeter….ya got a mouth like a herd of bollweevils

Nina trumped all ya’ll murderous fuckers………….

nothin worse than an educated fool…….same ole game……

83. diane - 6 April 2008

John Yoo

The powers that be (sodomizers of pre-adolescents) in the US have, with focused intent, imported and enlisted tortured minds from tortured landscapes (John Yoo) to promote merciless torture and murder upon the world at large……..in the same manner that US corporations have imported slave labor from third world countries, under the auspices of philanthropy, to cripple U.S. rank and file citizens who weren’t on board with thier hideous hubris and greed.

A pyramid game that will end in dust.

if your house is built on quicksand…..ya’ll better correct it before going off to foreign lands to “help” them……..

84. Victor Laszlo - 6 April 2008

Sorry, but that “smackdown” of DHinMi is missing, tossed down the Memory Hole. I clicked on the link and got nothing.

85. diane - 6 April 2008

via the beautiful Nina Simone, I am reminded of the beautiful Judy Collins……..….across the morning sky…..all the birds are leaving….how can they know…. that it’s time for them to go?……

86. Miss Devore - 6 April 2008

breaking from CNN:

“The chief strategist for Sen. Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, Mark Penn, is giving up that post, the campaign says.”

interesting it is reported as “the campaign says.”

like it might not be true.

maybe a presser where Hillary says I don’t agree with what he is doing, but I can no more distance myself from him than I could distance myself from anyone else from my husband’s team.

Hillary of Arc=French Toast

87. diane - 6 April 2008

Rest in Peace…and FOREVERMORE ….Ms. Nina Simone..passed from this earth April 21, 2003, after living it to the fullest….and, will live on forevermore………….

88. NYCO - 6 April 2008

I watched Barbara Kopple’s Harlan County USA over the weekend. (Haven’t seen American Dream yet but I assume it’s continuing the themes that were shown in the last 15 minutes of Harlan County). I came away from the movie feeling like you could pretty much divide Americans into two camps… those who would feel they had some kind of personal connection to the protagonists of the film, and those who would think it was just a good documentary about dirty men and women with bad teeth and a penchant for endless folk tunes. As my dad was formerly an auto worker who experienced a lot of the frustrations expressed by the miners in the last section of the film, and because I grew up with union literature all over my house and hearing the word “contract” used endlessly, I guess I fall into the former category.

It’s strange going on Daily Kos occasionally and reading some of the more innocently arrogant (and painfully earnest) diaries about canvassing in places like Pennsylvania among those tired old working-class folk who don’t seem to have Hope or don’t seem to trust the HopeBearer, Obama himself. I doubt a lot of the young’uns have seen any of Kopple’s films but I would hope if they watched Harlan County they would shut up and listen rather than immediately deciding that those pore unedgercated folks are just in the grip of Fear and don’t know how to Choose Hope.

I wonder if they even know what fear or hope means…

File under: Cultural Divide, and Failure to Communicate.

89. marisacat - 6 April 2008


You are reading way too much into the votes of older poorer white Democrats in states like Ohio, thru Appalachia, coal country and of course, older white women in NH esp (they be nearly witches) and so on.

They are racists. I am sure if you read MSM more faithfully and were cued to the undertone you would understand this…

These people are refusing to fall in line as did IOWA voters. Obviously there is something wrong with them. There is no other answer.

[that was sarcasm]

90. diane - 6 April 2008

You’re not alone NYCO, not that you don’t know, just to reinforce in ugly times.

91. NYCO - 6 April 2008

89. Well, again, I wish anyone who thinks it’s all about racism would just watch Kopple’s film and realize that the union movement was just about the only context in which blacks and whites were mixing in eastern Kentucky (i.e., “Hick Central”) in the early 1970s. They’d get an eyeful. It may not have been a completely free mixing, but it was a hell of a lot better I dare say than many other “progressive” environments in the country back then, particularly the anti-Vietnam movement.

And this is the environment that a lot of Obama-nonenthusiasts come from, or their parents came from. A paradox. But try explaining that to some of the DKos diarists who’ve got it all figured out.

Oh, and as for older white women, they’re pretty much the heroes of Harlan County USA… how did it happen that they are now considered throwaways or obstacles in the New Shiny Democratic Party?

I still don’t really know why they’d prefer Hillary Clinton, to be honest; but I can understand why they’re not overly impressed with Obama. I suppose Obama could fix that if he stressed his organizing background, but I don’t know if he has enough time.

What’s telling about some of these diaries about canvassing in PA is that the Obama people keep running into voters who don’t want to talk to them. They aren’t arguing; they just don’t want to engage. That to me is indicative of a serious gap that defies easy shoeboxing. I also think Democratic turnout in a lot of these swing states is going to be really low come November.

92. diane - 6 April 2008


it’s painful to tell the truth ….but incredibly liberating….have AT Hon……………..

93. NYCO - 6 April 2008

Also, something I felt I had to muse on after watching the film… maybe Americans can be grouped along the lines of “How many generations separated are you from bullets and billy clubs at your place of work or school?” I can’t say I’m particularly close… although my dad once brought home a union campaign button that had a bullet hole through it (probably done in some drunk joker’s back yard), so maybe that counts.

94. diane - 6 April 2008

afterthought here….I agree with you NYCO…just in case my words were unclear…I believe it’s most important to let others know where you stand………………

from the gut………

95. diane - 6 April 2008

it certainly does count NYCO!

96. NYCO - 6 April 2008

Indulge me as I make one more post about Harlan County USA

There is just no way Kopple could have made this movie in 2008, even if there were any actual strikes left to cover. She would not have been allowed near such picket lines. She would not have been able to get away with “Oh, I’ve misplaced my media credential too” when confronted by a heavy who claimed not to have his ID on him when she challenged him. She certainly would not have been allowed to film the picket line that took place on Wall Street in the film (nor would the picket line have been allowed to occur). She would have been censured for showing a piece of brain on a sidewalk and she would have been criticized for showing a mother wailing rawly over her dead son in an open casket. And if she had somehow managed to film any of it, her film would have been confiscated.

It’s like this movie took place in a different fucking universe… and yet, that is the very universe that a lot of these Mystery Voters with Something Wrong With Them grew up in, or their parents grew up in. But no, they’re just dead-enders who need to be lifted from their ignorance and fed the Good News.

And then the whole digital-freedom anti-DMCA generation (I call them the BoingBoingueoisie) likes to squawk in eye-bulging bloggy outrage about not having any rights or protections to take photographs of buildings, or film demonstrations, or put up stupid movie publicity items that look sort of like explosive devices… wow, all this freedom they’re losing, yet no evidence that they would actually do anything genuinely liberating with it.

Which oddly enough, is the same feeling I have about our two stalwart Democratic candidates.

97. diane - 6 April 2008

ha it may be the last time (james brown) …believe me I don’t want to be alone……….. when you’re all alone…and ya jus wanna talk on the telephone…..the operator says just signal when your through please……………………………………………………..I gotta scream……it may be the last time……shake hands with your best friend ……you might not ever see them again……..sorry I gotta go……lord have mercy……..;0)

peel the flesh back and it’s all bleeding and pink and holds hope out for love and kindness……..

hard to get to in these times…………….

98. marisacat - 6 April 2008

A lot of what is being said nline (and offline of course, as online are parrots) was also said, with some variation, when his district resolutely sent Jefferson back to congress.

Black New Orleanians signed on at the blogs, whites, bloggers of all colors… to explain to the Boyos who “just did not understand”.

People explained they knew Jefferson, knew all about the 90k … it got esp heated at MYdd a Tim Tagaris was posting there and we all know what an elections hero he is (I amsure he never utters “Pennachio” any more, LOL) and he had been down there working for … think her name was Betty Carter.

People explained how it works in NO, that Jefferson at least had a seat on Ways and Means, Katrina was in their laps and if one were honest, all Carter wanted was to take over the payola train. Nothing more.

The Boyos all but said, can you low information voters not get it? Fuck you.. we even ran a black for you… well fuck you and your mother too. Drown down there.

99. liberalcatnip - 6 April 2008

84. Hmm, it works for me.

100. marisacat - 6 April 2008

nu thread…



101. diane - 6 April 2008

Fock em

……the wheels of justice run slow but so fockin fine and smooth……..

attribution – humankind who actually believe in, and will Die For kindness and Love versus the lifeboat where some asshole whacks the friend they’ve known from childhood over the head with the oar because they want to survive…..for what .. you pitiful FOOL?

102. liberalcatnip - 6 April 2008

98. I’d like to see a definition of “low information voters”. Exactly what kind of information are they supposedly missing and what makes a “high information voter” (a term I’ve never actually seen used) the paragon of all things acceptable or necessary in politics?

103. wu ming - 6 April 2008

this line from taibbi is fucking bullshit:

one of the strangest things I’ve seen the media swallow whole in a long time, dating back to the “tiny, sand-covered, yet-to-master-the-art-of-plumbing nation of Iraq is an imminent military threat to the United States” fiasco.

iraq has about 30 million people. it’s not “tiny.” iraq used to be one of the mkst technologically adept countries in the middle east, and only now has no plumbing because we bombed the water treatment centers, starved the country with sanctions, denied then chlorine or replacement parts with which to rebuild their water treatment plants, bombed the place again, and have been doing everything we can to privatise the infrastructure that we don’t demolish for the past 5 years you ignorant jackass.

iraq wasn’t a threAt because they had no interest in attacking us. just because the country’s in ruins from decades of collective punishment doesn’t mean they didn’t have sewage and plumbing before we destroyed it.

fucking americans, no fucking grasp that people in non-european countries are human beings, much less human beings who developed urban centers going back millennia. and no goddamn recognition of what american bombs and sanctions do to people.

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