Did you watch the Clinton-Obama debate tonight? Did you watch their references to Israel? I will summarize. Hillary said that if elected, she would urge Israel to occupy two more of its neighbors. Not to be outdone, Obama pledged to urge Israel to occupy four Arab countries. I watched the debate and learned about US Middle East policy what I knew not before.
Feel the love… 19 April 2008Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, Border Issues, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iran, Iraq War, Israel/AIPAC, U.S. Senate, WAR!.
Honest to Ratzy, I don’t know what that look means. Hmmm think I am better off not knowing.
Just an over night thread and an, er… image…
Ratzy again! [UPDATED, Ratzy baby! no really!] 18 April 2008Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, California / Pacific Coast, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, San Francisco, U.S. Senate.
Why screw with a good thing………. left i on the news noted that Ratzy was greeted at the WH with a 21 gun salute.
and while i was there I gleaned this:
“I often get questions about impeachment at town hall meetings and I’ve said that is not something I think would be fruitful to pursue because I think that impeachment is something that should be reserved for exceptional circumstances.“
… and this
“It’s an atrocity what is being perpetrated as punishment on the people in Gaza. It’s a crime… I think it is an abomination that this continues to go on.”
- Jimmy Carter, speaking in Cairo about the Israeli blockade of Gaza
Carter also noted that the people of Gaza “receive fewer calories a day than people in the poorest parts of Africa.”
I realise Bilal Hussein has been covered here (in comments, that is) but I scammed this from Angry Arab… of course the LAST graf of the MSNBC/AP report. I mean, why put the consummate reality at the top?
“He now joins a growing list of journalists detained in conflict zones by the U.S. military for prolonged periods and eventually released without any charges or crimes ever substantiated against them,” said Simon. “This deplorable practice should be of concern to all journalists. It basically allows the U.S. military to remove journalists from the field, lock them up and never be compelled to say why.”
While at Angry A, I scammed this summation of the debate…
I maintain that the Democrats, finally, are running smack! into every brick wall, oil spill, slow bump and smoke filled room (fake and otherwise) they EVER constructed. And I am much amused.
Here is the opening and closing grafs from a look at Howard’s request, beg, demand, that Super Dels fall into line, out of love, vote, DO SOMETHING!, save the day, hand over the nom, turn the heat down... etc…
April 18, 2008
Delegates to Dean: Make Us
Howard Dean was on Wolf Blitzer’s show yesterday, and Drudge picked up his admonition to the superdelegates with the splashy headline: “Dean To Delegates: Decide Now.” In the interview, Dean says that he wants the superdelegates to begin “voting” now.
“We cannot give up two or three months of active campaigning and healing time,” he said. “We’ve got to know who our nominee is.”
Unfortunately for the party, Dean is in no position to tell the superdelegates when to decide. The reason? The chairmanship of the Democratic National Committee carries with it very little political power – certainly not enough to sway superdelegates.
It has been this way for a very long time. Fifty years ago, political scientists thought of the political parties as “truncated pyramids.” The idea behind this metaphor is that it was the state parties that were really in charge. The national parties were powerless organization that few paid attention to. [...] They were there to be used by the president for his electoral purposes and, when the President was of a different party, to host the national conventions. That’s it.
Flash forward to the 1970s. There’s a convergence of two trends in electoral politics. First is the rise of television and the mass media campaign. This induced a great need for campaign cash. Second is the imposition of the Federal Elections Campaign Act (FECA) of 1972, and the 1974 amendments that limited the amount of money that candidates could collect from individuals. This gave the national parties a new task – legal money laundering. [BINGO ---Mcat]
This is their essential function today. All six national party organizations (the two national committees plus the four Hill committees) collect large sums of cash by waving the party banner, and then distribute this money to candidates. [...]
… and the close:
This is why the “Democratic Party” cannot stop this nomination race. There is no party entity with the power to say, “OK, you two. Enough is enough.” In keeping with the “candidate control” model of electoral politics, the only two who can stop it are Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. That’s the modern party system for you. 20th century reformers thought the parties were meddling institutions that corrupted the political process. So, they stripped them of their power. Accordingly, the Democrats are at the mercy of their candidates.
Footnote: if you listen to Dean’s interview, he says that some superdelegates have already “voted,” and that he wants the rest to “vote” soon. This is not how the superdelegate system works. Dean knows that, and I think what he is trying to do is spin things a little bit. The fact is that the superdelegates have only endorsed candidates so far. They vote in Denver. Not before. What they say today does not necessarily constrain their votes in Denver. So, we should expect that, if the race remains close through the summer, both Obama and Clinton will work to “flip” superdelegates.
Tally Ho ho ho ho then! I am fine with High Noon in Denver. Fine if it sputters to some queasy, odd, quivering crack-up before then… fine if the thing de-constructs, combusts, in what the Dems foolishly thought was a gilded, glowing, ordained by GAWD winning year for them.
This is from Arcturus, near the end of the last thread:
- via Angry Indian:
An outspoken Canadian native leader [Terrance Nelson, chief of the Roseau First Nation in Manitoba], is urging Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to throw his weight behind an attempt to block two multibillion-dollar pipelines that will transport oil from Alberta to the United States.
. . .
The letter asks Mr. Chavez to turn the international spotlight to human-rights violations against indigenous people in Canada and to champion their cause. It says Mr. Nelson and other native leaders plan to expose the damage done to Canada’s indigenous people in the runup to the 2010 Olympics in B.C., in a campaign similar to the protests marring China’s preparations for the Beijing Games.
Roseau River First Nation has just started a video campaign to raise awareness about the issue of oil, poverty, land theft, and violence against indigenous People in Canada – compared to that of what happened to Iraqis when economic sanctions were imposed on them some ten years ago.
This from catnip, from the last thread, fits in as well……….
65. There’s an annual Day of Action coming up for first nations’ people here on Mat 29th. Phil Fontaine (Assembly of Fist Nations) confirmed that even though they support the Olympics coming to BC, they will use the spotlight on Canada to stage protests to get international attention.
Thanks for those links, Arcturus. Our gov’t can’t continue to speak out about human rights abuses in places like China without taking a long, hard look at what’s going on here. Fontaine is working with the government on the wording of their official apology but that’s such a minor step considering the abuses first nations’ people have endured here.
I have to tell you that, after listening to the media pushing the fact that the sexual abuse scandal has cost the Catholic church a measly $2 billion to sweep under the rug, I was reminded of how hard that same church has fought against aboriginals here when it came to settling the residential schools abuse claims that decimated the people who were so severely affected by those actions. The longer they waited, the more claimants who died, never having received any kind of compensation, much less an apology. Oh, and they did the “healing” thing here too – as if that could ever make up for the effects of what was done. That chapter in our history is far from being closed.
From Love that wispy Nazi Ratzy voice…, 2008/04/18 at 3:18 PM
Other than that, I cannot say how quiet is a house without a cat. Dead quiet. An ever falling, somber, bottomless quiet.
When I was a child I used to visit in a house in what is (or was) Deep Marin, Laguanitas. An old clap board house with a big rangy living room and a fireplace, at the back of the house. Out the back door, off a sort of semi-connected sort of “mud room” was a rolling, soft green meadow. At the back of the meadow were trees, to the south, a creek. The back door was usually left open, and at times a Nanny Goat, sometimes with a kid, would walk in. Not just a neighborly nose-in at the mud room, but a full walk-in, to where the upholstered furniture was grouped near the fire… It was the happiest of scenes.
In contrast to a house with cats, dogs, rabbits and a visiting goat contingent, one would think a city house with cats often in full sleep mode would not be deathly still when an elderly cat moves on. But it is.
UPDATED, 8:14 am
Mein lieber Gott!…
So, I was hunting for a photo of il papa with his broadtail capelet… and what do I find, The Holy Baby:
OK! I am taking a flying leap here…. Ratzy wears the diapers in the family and Ganswein and he have a manger set up somewhere.
BTW, that is Ganswein, over Ratzy’s right shoulder.
I think I will head for the Campari early.
UPDATED, 9:54 am
I gather the call (and no doubt the response) at St Patty’s this am was for … get ready! … UNITY. Hey, it means exactly as much for pols as for the pious (doubt me? WAIT!)
As for “unity” these guys got the memo (the trail behind of bishops):
Don Emmert/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
Bishops attended Mass with the pope at Saint Patrick’s Cathedral.
Love that wispy Nazi Ratzy voice… 17 April 2008Posted by marisacat in DC Politics, Divertissements, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Italy, WAR!.
….as he says Sorry! for chomping on the baby’s beauteous little leg…. but it was so delish, I ate it all. And swallowed every morsel.
Allen: Holy Father, I’ll ask my question in English. I know you will speak principally in Italian, but we would be grateful for at least a few words in English. The Catholic church in the United States is large and dynamic, but also suffering, above all because of the recent sexual abuse crisis. The American people are waiting to hear what you have to say on this subject. What will your message be?
It is a great suffering for the church in the United States, for the church in general, and for me personally that this could happen. If I read the histories of these victims, it’s difficult for me to understand how it was possible that priests betrayed in this way their mission to give healing and to give the love of God to these children. We are deeply ashamed, and we will do all that is possible that this cannot happen in the future.
I think we have to act on three levels.
The first is the level of justice, the juridical level. We now have also norms to react in a just way. I would not speak in this moment about homosexuality, but pedophilia, [which] is another thing. We will absolutely exclude pedophiles from the sacred ministry, this is absolutely incompatible. And who is really guilty of being a pedophile cannot be a priest. So the first level is, as we can do justice and help clearly the victims, because they are deeply touched. So [there are] two sides of justice, on the one hand that pedophiles cannot be priests; on the other hand, to help in all the possible ways to the victims.
The second level is the pastoral level, the level of healing and help of assistance and of reconciliation. This is a big pastoral engagement, and I know that the bishops and the priests and all the Catholic people in the United States will do all possible to help assist and to heal, and to help that in the future these things cannot happen.
The third point [is that] we have made a visitation in the seminaries to also do what is possible in the education of seminarians for a deep, spiritual, human and intellectual formation –with discernment so that only sound persons can be admitted to the priesthood, only persons with a deep personal love for Christ and a deep sacramental love, to exclude that this can happen [again]. I know that the bishops and the rectors of seminarians will do all that is possible so that we have a strong discernment, because it’s more important to have good priests than to have many priests. This is also our third level, and we hope that we can do, and we have done, and we will do in the future, all that is possible to heal this wound.
Well! We all know that is settled now! Nothing to worry about!
He also has said that the resolution is healing prayer and a return to orthodoxy. No really. More religion is the cure! Choke on the Holy Host!
In the round the clock coverage of the death of JP II, I caught a lovely little conversation, on one of the divine Roman rooftops that US media paid rent on for upwards of 10 years as they waited for JP to shuffle off… someone from the media chatting to one of the more corpulent of the US Bishops… who said in all seriousness that the accusations of child abuse, priestly pedophilia, were lies. The Church had endured this often, most recently when the COMMUNISTS had lied about priests.
Meanwhile over at The Corner at National Review Online, Kathryn Jean Lopez is slobbering that the pope’s round the clock personal assistant, Msgr Ganswein, is like Richard Chamberlain in The Thornbirds. hmmm I think if he ever went in that direction, first in line would be Donatella Versace, who personally handles his custom orders.
We know all are dining on the tender flesh of plump infants, said to be sweetest of all human flesh.
UPDATE, 9:05 am
I just saw this at the end of the last thread… and it seems to really fit in with popery.. ;)
41 – Synchronicity? Earth’s Hum Sounds More Mysterious Than Ever (4/16/0
In the past, the oscillations that researchers found made up this hum were “spheroidal” – they basically involved patches of rock moving up and down, albeit near undetectably.
Now oscillations have been discovered making up the hum that, oddly, are shaped roughly like rings. Imagine, if you will, rumbles that twist in circles in rock across the upper echelons of the planet, almost like dozens of lazy hurricanes.
This discovery should force researchers to significantly rethink what causes Earth’s hum. While the spheroidal oscillations might be caused by forces squeezing down on the planet – say, pressure from ocean or atmospheric waves – the twisting ring-like phenomena might be caused by forces shearing across the world’s surface, from the oceans, atmosphere or possibly even the sun.
Given the human forces shearing across the world’s surface, I have an image of the entire planet grinding its teeth.
Debate? Fight? 16 April 2008Posted by marisacat in DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, U.S. Senate.
Boxing Ring – Times Square – 1969
Jerry Quarry trades leather with Charlie (Emperor) Harris during a sparring session as a lunch crowd of 4,000 watched on June 16, 1969. Quarry lost a few days later in a heavyweight bout to Joe Frazier at Madison Square Garden. [Photo by William Sauro/The New York Times Photo Archives]
hardly, would be my guess. Probably they will throw pink and blue rubber balls at each other. Or, that might be too strong, pink and blue BALLOONS. That’ll do it. And no one issued a pin, god forbid.
He slaps her, over lobbyist money.
The new Obama ad released yesterday says his Democratic opponent Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has taken nearly $800,000 from lobbyists, more than any other candidate, and replayed her comments from July in defense of lobbyists who represent “real Americans.”
It also ties lobbyist donations to the high cost of insurance and prescription drugs and to nearly $4-per-gallon gas. It marks the first negative spot that he’s filmed since he entered the race and said he rejected such tactics, although Mrs. Clinton has often accused him of abandoning his positive campaign promise with nasty radio ads and mailers.
“We can’t end the Washington game … until we change the players,” the ad concludes, without Mr. Obama’s voice or image appearing because it is not running on television or the radio.
Via The Note, USA Today slaps him back. My my, one of his preferred publications, too:
USA Today’s Dilanian takes on Obama’s ad claim that he doesn’t “take money from oil companies”; no candidates do, since corporate contributions are illegal, and he does take money from employees of oil companies.
“The episode underscores the pitfalls confronting a candidate who rails against special interests while raising $193 million and counting — the most of any presidential campaign,” Dilanian writes. “Obama’s fundraising tests the limits of his claim that he is independent of Washington’s influence industry because he doesn’t take money from federal lobbyists and PACs.”
More from Dilanian’s report: “Obama accepts money from spouses of federal lobbyists. . . . Obama accepts contributions and fundraising help from state lobbyists. . . . Obama is raising more than his opponents from executives of some of the corporate interests he criticizes.”
Reeks of newness, doesn’t it? We are so blessed.
This too (via The Note), larded with newness, dressed in hope and change. That’s right, she is old, messy news, but he, imo, is a slick con. As they all are.
Obama addresses concerns of Jewish voters, in an interview with the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
“There has been a really systematic effort to suggest that I’m not sufficiently pro-Israel,” he said. “The fact that my middle name is Hussein, I’m sure, does not help in that regard. . . . Again some of this dates back to the ’60s between the African-American and the Jewish community as a consequence of [Louis] Farrakhan. There was flap about some of Jesse Jackson’s statements during his presidential race, so I inherit all this baggage.”
And: “The fact is though that nobody’s has been a more stalwart ally of Israel.”
(Watch those superlatives, senator. Flashback to March 12, 2007, in an interview with the Des Moines Register: “Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people.”)
Well, we are all suffering thru this one.
Apparently Obama, merely a child, suffered thru the 60s. And still suffers from the BAGGAGE. Aww…. It certainly serves as the great crucifix he hangs all manner of slobber from.
I read recently that under Shriver, serving in the WH in the war against poverty, the percentages went from 24% in poverty to 13% in poverty. Of course figures are fiddled with and plenty of federal monies were speedily stolen by machine Democrats… But, other things matter to pols…. when McGovern chose Shriver, after the fall of Eagleton, to run on the ticket, the Kennedy family (and that would be Teddy) took offense. No mere son-in-law was to be elevated, they would boycott the election.
Political pique, we are garroted by it…
And speaking of pique… via the backed up sump pump of BlahgSnotospheria…. Isn’t it amusing that the Koswhacks have no understanding, nein, nada, nothing, not a drop of understanding what is a citizen-journalist? One thing is certain, they really don’t hear themselves………………..
I say to them, lump it lumpen.
A thread for the debate (8 PM ET, ABC), if anyone wants one… or whatever else anyone wants to comment upon… Nothing sacrosanct, after all, about one. more. damned. election.
Not a thread… 15 April 2008Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.
Truman Library – 1948 Berryman cartoon – “King for a Day”
My heart’s not in it. Will try to be back in a few days. -Mcat
Off to the races! 13 April 2008Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.
Obama – Nairobi – 2006 [Tony Karumba / AFP-Getty Images]
Newsweek has a mixed bag up on Obama, as a man of the world.
[T]hat experience, aides say, turned Obama into both someone who identifies with those less fortunate abroad—and a true-blue patriot. “He understands he’s gotten where he is based on the fact that we have a system that opens up opportunity to smart and talented people,” says retired Air Force Gen. Merrill McPeak, a top Obama adviser. McPeak, Rhodes and others claim that Obama’s upbringing gives him deeper insight into how to win the “hearts and minds” so crucial to success in Iraq, and in the global struggle against Islamic extremism. “Obama’s experience living abroad gives him a sense of that grass-roots life, which is so important in shaping why a terrorist is a terrorist,” says Tony Lake, Bill Clinton‘s former national-security adviser, who now is a top Obama adviser. ::snip::
It’s hot as Hades here… and I deliberated giving the blog a miss for a day or so, but then landed on this. Newsweek has done several articles on either Obama or Michelle, most longer than this. They always seem calculated to pet with the one hand and slap with the other. Oh the vagaries of running for the Leader of the Free World.
So many ratty potholes to navigate. Or not.
Moving a couple of comments forward from the end of the last thread:
Volumes have been written about the current crisis; subprime-this, subprime that. Everything that can be said about collateralized debt obligations (CDOs) credit default swaps(CDS) and mortgage-backed securities (MBS) has already been said. Yes, they are exotic “financial innovations” and, no, they are not regulated. But what difference does that make? There’s always been snake oil and there have always been snake oil salesmen. Greenspan simply raised the bar a notch, but he’s not the first huckster and he won’t be the last. What really matters is underlying ideology; that’s the root from which this economy-busting hydra sprung. 30 years of trickle down, supply-side gibberish; 30 years of idol worship for the waxy-haired reactionary, Ronald Reagun; 30 years of unrelenting anti-labor, free market, deregulated orthodoxy which inflated the biggest equity-Zeppelin in history.
Now the bubble is hissing out of the blimp and the escaping gas is wreaking havoc across the planet. There are food riots in Haiti, Egypt, and Kuwait. Wherever the local currency is pegged to the falling dollar, inflation is soaring and trouble is brewing. Also, European banks are listing from the mortgage-backed garbage they bought from brokerages in the US and need central bank bailouts to stay afloat. It’s just more fallout from the subprime swindle. Finance ministers in every capital in every country are getting ready for a 1930’s-type typhoon that could send equities crashing and food and energy prices rocketing into the stratosphere. And it can all be traced back to the wacko doctrines of neoliberalism. These are the theories that guide America’s “screw-thy-neighbor” monetary policies and spread financial turmoil to every city and hamlet around the world.
The present stewards of the system are incapable of fixing the problem because they represent the interests of the people who benefit most from the disruptions. Paulson’s latest “blueprint” for the financial markets is a good example; a more pro-business, self-serving scheme has never been put to paper.
Mine, on conservative religionism calling the shots:
ahahahahah… just landed on this… because the righties are starting to scream:
“There was a very self-conscious awareness that religious conservatives had brought Bush into the White House and that [the administration] wanted to do what they had been mandated to do,” says Hudson.
To conservative Catholics, that meant holding the line on same-sex marriage, euthanasia and embryonic stem cell research, and working to limit abortion in the United States and abroad while nominating judges who would eventually outlaw it. To make the case, Bush has often borrowed Pope John Paul II’s mantra of promoting a “culture of life.” Many Catholics close to him believe that the approximately 300 judges he has seated on the federal bench — most notably Catholics John Roberts and Samuel Alito on the Supreme Court — may yet be his greatest legacy. ::snip::
Ponnaru from The Corner (scroll down a bit for it):
There is no organized political movement in this country, made up of conservative Catholics or anyone else, to nominate judges who would outlaw abortion. No justice of the Supreme Court has ever taken the view that the Court should outlaw abortion.
And Intermittent Bystander checking in:
Greetings opera-gazing corn-poppers, misanthropes, situationists, gardeners, swimmers, cheesecake fans, and other hunter-gatherers.
Emerging from a month or so of tragic deaths, professional uncertainties (then emergency overload), and other sorts of end-of-winter mayhem. Can barely stand to follow the daily dithers of the political prom-airy, at the moment, but was cheered to see this international item today:
Board grants amnesty to AP photographer
BAGHDAD – An Iraqi judicial panel dismissed the last remaining criminal allegation against Associated Press photographer Bilal Hussein on Sunday and ordered him released from custody, two years and one day after he was detained by the U.S. military.
(Who still have him, at Camp Cropper, apparently. So now it’s up to the US to let him go. . . .)
The AP said a review of Hussein’s work and contacts found no evidence of any activities beyond the normal role of a news photographer. Hussein was a member of an AP team that won a Pulitzer Prize for photography in 2005, and his detention has drawn protests from rights groups and press freedom advocates such as the Committee to Protect Journalists.
ms x – belated sympathies to you for the loss of Methuseleh. Wonder if Walter greeted Baby at the Purrly Gates? If so, I’m sure he’s showing her all the very best places for heavenly brunch.
Super Addendum, too good to not pull forward, plus it gave me a laugh. From Intermittent Bystander as well:
Speaking of comestibles . . . don’t try this at home, kids!
NAPLES (Reuters) – Ballot stuffing took on a new meaning in Italy’s parliamentary election on Sunday when a man ate his ballot paper in protest at the country’s politicians.
Police in Naples said they had charged the 41-year-old businessman with destroying election materials. He said all Italian politicians and politics “are crap” and that he was protesting “against the system”.
We’re the RepubliPoodles, Vote for us! 12 April 2008Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, WAR!.
Shearing the vaunted Blue Dog PoodleDem
Yes, just an image holding up a thread…………………….
Yessuh! 11 April 2008Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.
Yesssss I realise it is boring, just advance, pass go, collect a virtual 200.00, ascend to eyes glazed over mode and skim right on by! I won’t notice.
Lynn Sweet was at a DC fundraiser for Obama…. he dropped the odd bon mot, or two or three. Not especially news, he has said before (in NH) he’d like to reach an accommodation as to what is “permisable” between the two camps in the GE (Good Luck Sweet Cheeks! Don’t measure the curtains yet for the private quarters… ) and he sure has ladled out his authoritarian bullshit on abortion… don’t put in a lot of time wondering why Casey endorsed or Roemer of Indiana endorsed. Or Kmeic, a few others. There will be more conservatives, Catholics and others endorsing him…
Q: Senator you have mentioned that you would speak with Senator McCain, should you become the nominee, about the likelihood of being able to fashion some type of an agreement for the final five months of the presidential campaign. Is that really a realistic possibility, to keep those parties out? I mean the fact is these groups are forming right now.
BO: You know I think that — I am committed to having these conversations. And I can’t speak for Senator McCain. I think everybody, including the public, would benefit from a system in which you did not have third parties raining down millions of dollars, primarily in negative ads, directed at the other candidates, which I think will be a distraction from the substantive issues of the campaign. Whether or not we can pull it off, I don’t know.
Popcorn futures! Popcorn poppers. Stove top poppers…
And on abortion:
Q: [inaudible]- Question about what limitations he would support to a women’s right to choose?
BO: You know, my position on abortion has been, I think, pretty clear. I think that abortion is always a tragic and difficult issue that has a moral element to it. And I trust women to make those decisions in consultation with their doctors, their clergy, their conscience. And you know, I think consistent with Rove v. Wade, we should be able to restrict late term abortions that as long as there are provisions to protect the life and the health of the mother. That is consistent with existing case law and it’s something that I support.
Q: [inaudible]- On this point there are a lot of socially conservative democrats—Tim Roemer and Bob Casey? Why do they see you as a different kind of democrat?
BO: There was a section of my most recent book that talks about the issue of abortion. I think the mistake pro-choice forces has sometimes made in the past, and this is a generalization it has not always been the case, has been to not acknowledge the wrenching moral issues involved in it. And so the debate got so polarized that both sides tended to exaggerate the other sides positions. Most Americans I think recognize that what we want to do is avoid or help people avoid making this difficult choice. That nobody is pro-abortion; abortions are never a good thing and it may be that those who have opposed abortion get a sense that I’m listening to them and respect their positions even though where we come down may be different.
And that’s that kind of conversation that I think would allow us to move forward in actually reducing the numbers of abortions and that’s how a lot of other countries handle this issue. It’s a less polarized debate in part because there acknowledgement of legitimate concerns on both sides.
Thread……….. 10 April 2008Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, California / Pacific Coast, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, The Battle for New Orleans, WAR!.
San Anselmo – CA – 2004
Just a thread………. 9 April 2008Posted by marisacat in San Francisco.
Just La Louche… and her personal flame. I heard a commentator say the other day if you hooked most San Franciscans up to a lie detector, we’d wish we had never heard of the damned flame. And it looks like they are closing masses of streets to make this work. It has been a horribly awkward thing…
Lovely. Who cares!
Other than that, BAR is up with a whopper. I am sure the editorial in the WSJ was tactical speculation, but it certainly sounds, especially after New Orleans and decades of [so called] Urban Reconstruction, like what the PTB want… I am guessing it is The Plan.
Destroy the village to save it… it all comes home:
[H]ere’s the latest criminal enterprise hatched by the ruling sectors of U.S. society: tear down all that overpriced housing, the stuff that was only recently built but can no longer be financed for sale. No, don’t convert it to useful purposes as rental units or reasonably-priced family homes to satisfy the desperate needs of millions of families – and of people who wish they could successfully constitute themselves as households in this jungle-like environment. Just make it all go away, with the federal government paying the bill for the massive destruction.
It is now proposed that the “excess” housing stock of the United States be knocked down, bulldozed until a renewed shortage of shelter will render the housing that survives worth something close to the prices advertised before the bubble burst.
It has come to this: The U.S. economy can only heal itself by destroying those few products it can still manage to create. This is what happens when pure capitalists rule society, the people with no connection to actual production of goods and services, but only to the uses of money, or the recently coined phrase “moneyness” – stuff that can be made to act for a while as if it were money. Like the $516 trillion in “derivatives” that big banks have to hold on to because nobody knows what’s in these strange “instruments” – which were just as good as money as long as financial institutions pretended they really were money-like. ::snip::