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The most important election since………… 7 May 2008

Posted by marisacat in 2006 Mid Terms, 2008 Election, Abortion Rights, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, SCOTUS, Sex / Reproductive Health, WAR!.

… since Jeeesuhs! [The First, that is!] The big push, the eternal push is on… “where are they going to go?” “Choice, SCOTUS, the most important election”…. they roll it out. If the party had a heart or a brain (or even an operating reflux system) they’d gag on their own words.

Somewhere or other I caught commentary that “aides to Obama admit, it will be harder to unite than normally”. Oh I am so entertained! And Chuck Todd slipped and said on Charlie Rose Monday night, that “even if he does not win the GE, Obama will have accomplished what the Democrats need”…

I dunno, finished second, ankles broken, shattered in fact?? Play it again, Sam.

Who knows. The Dems cannot win for losing. BTW, that is not an ass backwards endorsement of Hillary. But both she and McCain are rogues, Obama is controllable. IMO.

I must say, Black Agenda Report has push back. Top to bottom on the page.

I’ve loved the fiction these past weeks and months, rolling around in re-used cooking grease, that the leadership, the establishment, the national level, the DC Dems are so not racist. It is only the little people trapped in forgotten towns, with retrograde brains — and let’s not even start that there was no independent, published commentary from the so called left of the aisle on the ugly opinions of Wright on brains by race. The reason why is that all that matters is elections. Don’t fuck with the game, science and everything else be damned. Very simple…

AND that reminds me of the between clenched teeth admission from Daschle (a lobbyist, which the media has conveniently forgotten) that the reservation, a counted upon vote for him, went for Thune. He gave the cleaned up version publicly, that ‘of course they may vote for whom they wish’. I doubt that is what he said at home the night he lost the election. I never put time in to get details, but it seems the reservation went to Thune and cut a deal (quite aside that Daschle’s fortunes were tied to Janklow, the former R governor then single rep whose personal fortunes changed due to vehicular homicide and he fell from power). Of what shape or type and did he ever make good… I have no idea. But the several thousand voters went for him. It made a difference.

I say, wise up! The choice, the game is between a Roberts/Alito or the breakaway, secular radicalism of … a Justice Kennedy. Yes, that was sarcasm.


Oh! This is too good not to pull forward! (the big question, have denali and pinche tejano and paid asstroturfer donkeytale called peeder a racist yet? Cuz they have called everyone else a racist that is not toenail to tooth for ObamaRama):


Look, the righties have tarred her for 16 years precisely because they KNOW ALL TOO WELL that the 90’s were the BEST PERIOD for this country in THE LAST 50 YEARS. And they KNEW that anyone with their eyes on their wallet (their BASE) would gladly pay a bit more tax to go back to those years. they KNEW that Bill Clinton completely fixed and reversed the Bush deficit and here we have another one.
And so they KNOW that the idea of a fiscal conservative holding their noes and voting Hillary is a DISTINCT possibility and it may well spell the DEATH KNELL for the Republicans-as-Prednits meme they have tried to hammer home.

A PRGAMATIC liberal’s strategy would be to elect Hillary (DUH!) and then pressure her from the left in Congress. DUH!

but these fuckikng optimists think they can punch in some black nobody, completely BLIND to all history recent and otherwise of how people actually win office, and if that fantasy was to even come true, have that one Queen on the board with no supporting pieces on the hill and somehow make anything more of it other than another Carter disaster signle term presidency that leads us to another 12 years of Republican destruction.


Disraeli’s warning is so fucking lost on these supposed interlectulals.


by peeder @ Wed May 07, 2008 at 02:28:01 AM PDT

Sorry for the length, but this comment was just too hilarious to pass up!

From hamburger hamburger hamburger promises promises promises…, 2008/05/07 at 10:04 AM

[does he seem a tad, oh I don’t know, UPSET?, LOL Mcat]


BTW, this is the thread from whence peeder’s bon mots are drawn …. and while i was there, trudging thru the reactionaries… there is this from Market Trustee:

*[new] Blue Dogs flexing muscle (0.00 / 0)

The Hill Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (Md.), the House Democrats’ point man in negotiations on an overhaul of intelligence surveillance law, is keeping his eye on conservative Blue Dog Democrats who might defect on the issue under Republican pressure.
[…]If Congress does not approve an overhaul of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) by Memorial Day, intelligence community officials will have to prepare dozens of individual surveillance warrants, a cumbersome alternative to the broader wiretapping authority granted by the Protect America Act, say congressional officials familiar with the issue.

Conservative and freshman Democrats are growing skittish. These lawmakers expect campaign opponents to accuse them of imperiling national security if Congress does not enact new intelligence surveillance legislation.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has stepped back from the FISA talks and let Hoyer spearhead House talks with the Senate and executive branch. Some Democrats say privately that she has not shown much urgency to reach agreement with the White House.
“A number of Blue Dogs are working on a compromise between the House and the Senate,” said Rep. Jane Harman (Calif.), a member of the Blue Dog Coalition and the former ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. “I’m working with Hoyer and working with others. “Some other Blue Dogs are involved,” she added. “Blue Dogs are 47 votes; 47 votes will determine how this comes out.”

I wonder, what Barry’s position on FISA? I also wonder …still… who he will choose for a running mate. Pelosi sez, “the candidate, whoever he or she may be, should choose his or her own vice presidential candidate.

I sure hope Barry picks a super-good VP.

by MarketTrustee @ Wed May 07, 2008 at 05:20:23 AM PDT


His Veepessa will be chosen for him. It would not be any other way. They probably can choose their own rings and location for the reception… LOL — Mcat




1. ms_xeno - 7 May 2008

…A PRGAMATIC liberal’s strategy would be to elect Hillary (DUH!) and then pressure her from the left in Congress. DUH!…

Pressure her. Sure. Might as well just pass out bags of pixie dust now and be done with it. Pixie dust is about as real as “the left” in Congress.


When my stomach stops churning, I’ll come back and tell my story du jour about The Working Families Party.

In the meanwhile, enjoy this priceless gem from the freeslave about life amongst my enlightened brethren. It’s now been nearly three years since I departed public service but whoa does this shit take me back.


2. lucid - 7 May 2008

I don’t even know where to begin on the Peeder comment… The very first sentence is a screen spitter…

And what’s the problem with Iran again? Oh, right, they’re gonna slingshot some spent nuclear fuel at Israel after they figure out fission reactors ten years from now…

3. marisacat - 7 May 2008

via Geraghty at Campaign Spot at NRO

You gotta love it!


Irony: In the End, Hillary Couldn’t Count on George McGovern

Why does anybody trust George McGovern?

He just turned on Hillary, rescinded his endorsement of her, endorsed Obama, and called on her to leave the race.

And he does it after the Clinton family foundation gave $25,000 to support the McGovern Library and Center for Leadership and Public Service in Mitchell, South Dakota in early 2007.


Remember the good old days when you could buy a politician, and they would stay bought?

05/07 12:41 PM

4. marisacat - 7 May 2008

Another good one from Geraghty — I read the saner righties to cleanse of what I call Liberal Sugar:


Kennedy Went to the 1980 Convention Trailing By 756 Delegates

Fun Foreshadowing Fact of the Day: In 1980, Ted Kennedy came into the Democratic convention at Madison Square Garden in New York City with 1,225 delegates to President Carter’s 1,981 and 122 uncommitted.

If Kennedy could take it to the convention when he trailed by 756 delegates, Hillary can go to the convention trailing by her current 150 or so.

05/07 10:08 AM

5. ms_xeno - 7 May 2008

I wanted to link to a good piece about FEMA and New Orleans. It’s hard to do a good excerpt because the spacing shows up weird on my screen.

No Way To Treat Our People.

Stop by my pad for the excerpt and get a musical interlude at no extra charge. 😉

6. aemd - 7 May 2008

This will go over well with the Masters of the Universe. 😎

“The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission will require Wall Street investment banks to disclose their capital and liquidity levels,”

7. marisacat - 7 May 2008

I am going to laugh all day long. IOZ somehow got an email from Kerry, offering, for a donation to Lautenberg, Ioz a place in the “progressive movement”… right. With Kerry and Lautenberg.

This is is ground-zero progressive detonation point, where mixed-metaphor shot-and-a-beer rhetoric meets poll-tested netrootsian “real working progressive majority” lingo, and what’s both hilarious and sad–sadly hilarious, hilariously sad–is that so many of those battles that they were eating their fighting hearts on the gambling floor to win, well, they lost. Alito? Deadlines to bring the troops home? Beaten like a rented mule, in the words of the late great Mike Lange. Whupped like a redheaded stepchild.

I admit that I’m tone-deaf to what sort of talk actually appeals to Americani voterus, but can anyone really be swayed by the bombastic pronouncement that their catastrophic defeats were preceded by the right intentions? You’re too small to play football, Rudy.

Kerry harkens to the Great Battle against Alito. One fo the bigger jokes around. At the close of it… Turley said there was no evidence of a coordinated Democratic Party. They came to the battle too disassociated, one from the other much less as a coherent panel of lawyers on the Judiciary, to mount an attack. They could not even use the nomination process as an opportunity to discuss their alternative beliefs for the federal judiciary.

Of course not, for two decades and more they have valiantly rubber stamped pro life judges to the federal bench… .

right right, all about the SCOTUS. Now that the bird bath is inhabited by the foxes..

8. mattes - 7 May 2008

Is the Pentagon Policy Shop Funding Likudist Fronts?


9. NYCO - 7 May 2008

I love how whenever Obama wins a big one, the stock market plunges.
Yeah, that’s confidence. 🙂

10. Hair Club for Men - 7 May 2008

Lautenberg is aiming to become the Strom Thurmond of the north. He’s even got a train station named after him and I think he’s older than Grand Central.

11. Hair Club for Men - 7 May 2008

He’s too pro Israel and too pro gun control

Other than that he’s not a horrible Senator

12. marisacat - 7 May 2008


yeah when I heard it was down 71 pretty fast, I thought of that. Maybe with a Chicago base he (and his) is seen as too tied to the commodity end of things.

I have no real idea…

13. marisacat - 7 May 2008

hmm I skipped Oprah interviewing Babawa… but here is Nicholas Lemann in The New Yorker on her, her self as an entertainment phenom … and her book.

14. wu ming - 7 May 2008

i’d be more worried about him if the stock market went up, NYCO.

15. liberalcatnip - 7 May 2008

Consolation for Clinton Feminists: Obama is the Better Woman

So what did we — we feminist women and men — want in a woman president? I’m not sure it’s righteous to believe in essential gender difference; I’ve never been a Mars/Venus kind of gal. I simply believed at one point that Hillary Clinton’s candidacy would give us a chance to examnine some lingering sexist tropes, the kind Tina Fey referred to in her charming endorsement of Clinton on “Saturday Night Live.” Yeah, she’s a bitch, and so am I. Bitches get things done.

I suspect the diarist isn’t a white/black kind of gal either or she would have picked up on the fact that Obama has managed to integrate AA concerns into the generic “American” concern leaving black issues in the dust.

The problem is, Hillary Clinton didn’t play like a bitch. She played like a dick, sliming her opponent behind the lines and attempting to trick the party that had been so loyal to her into letting her steal of couple of states’ primary votes.

And those states would be…?

And Obama hasn’t been a “dick”?

By all these measures — by every measure — it’s Barack Obama who has exemplified our lofty standards of feminist leadership. He values listening. He preaches unity. He promises to sit down with our enemies. He opposes war. And say what you will about how Obama responded to Rev. Jeremiah Wright: You cannot say this is a man who does not tolerate difference.

Exsqueeze me?

Barack is the new woman. Maybe next week he’ll burn his bra in public. Stay tuned.

16. liberalcatnip - 7 May 2008

Is the Pentagon Policy Shop Funding Likudist Fronts?

Afaic, Amnesty International should launch an inquiry into the US gov’t support of Israeli war crimes just as they have done with US backing of Ethiopia’s.

17. liberalcatnip - 7 May 2008

Obama is every woman in spam.

18. marisacat - 7 May 2008

Vallejo votes to declare Chapter 9 bankruptcy

Wednesday, May 7, 2008

(05-07) 00:12 PDT Vallejo — The Vallejo City Council voted to declare bankruptcy Tuesday night after months of last-ditch wrangling failed to rescue the city from financial catastrophe.

The North Bay city of 117,000 now heads into largely uncharted territory, as no California city of this size has ever opted for this route.

“This has been a long frustrating process for everyone,” said City Manager Joseph Tanner. “There are no winners here tonight.”

After about four hours of discussion and public comment from the standing-room-only crowd, the council voted 7-0 to approve Tanner’s recommendation to declare Chapter 9 bankruptcy protection as a means to reorganize its finances, which have been shattered by spiraling public employee salaries and the plummeting housing market.


Cities and counties throughout the state are in a predicament similar to Vallejo’s, and many are watching to see what happens in the North Bay city over the next few months.

If the regional and national economies suffer another down year, numerous Bay Area cities – especially those highly dependent on the housing market for property- and transfer-tax revenues – are likely to be investigating bankruptcy options.

19. Hair Club for Men - 7 May 2008

Is the Pentagon Policy Shop Funding Likudist Fronts?

Is the Pope a Nazi?

20. Arcturus - 7 May 2008

fwiw, Pam Martens has a 2-parter at CP on BO’s ‘not taking $$$ from lobbyists & other useful fictions’:

Obama’s Money Cartel
The Obama Bubble Agenda:

We are asked to believe that those kindly white executives at all the biggest Wall Street firms, which rank in the top 20 donors to the Obama presidential campaign, after failing to achieve more than 3.5 per cent black stockbrokers over 30 years, now want a black populist president because they crave a level playing field for the American people.

. . .The Akin Gump law firm is a prime example . . . when its non-registered law partners, the people who own this business and profit from its lobbying operations, give to the Obama campaign, the contribution is classified as coming from a law firm, not a lobbyist.

. . . Why do Wall Street and the corporate law firms think they will find a President Obama to be accommodating? As the Black Agenda Report notes, “Evidently, the giant insurance companies, the airlines, oil companies, Wall Street, military contractors and others had closely examined and vetted Barack Obama and found him pleasing.”

That vetting included his remarkable “yes” vote on the Class Action Fairness Act of 2005, a five-year effort by 475 lobbyists, despite appeals from the NAACP and every other major civil rights group. Thanks to the passage of that legislation, when defrauded homeowners of the housing bubble and defrauded investors of the bundled mortgages try to fight back through the class-action vehicle, they will find a new layer of corporate-friendly hurdles.

21. NYCO - 7 May 2008

The correlation of Obama wins to stock market plunges simply has to do with the fact that he represents chaos and uncharted territory.

It doesn’t mean he wants the stock market to go down or that he’s an enemy of business as usual; it’s just that the chaos represented by his candidacy scares the market even more than it already is.

22. ms_xeno - 7 May 2008

Mcat, I had to borrow your old post about Gerri Santoro because someone elsewhere was being an ignorant ghoul. Or goon. Take your pick. I apologize in advance if this brings in any troll traffic. Thanks.

23. Arcturus - 7 May 2008

re-inventing the stories-we-tell-about-ourselves:

World Premier of The Sisyphus Syndrome

The Sisyphus Syndrome is a newly commissioned jazz opera by poet and playwright Amiri Baraka and saxophonist and composer David Murray. This groundbreaking and timely project details the African-American struggle in the United States using poetry, live music, dance and mixed media. David Murray will lead The Freedom Now! Band, and Amiri Baraka is directing the piece in addition to being a featured performer. Dancers, actors, and digital design round out the production to make it a compelling, insightful piece that offers both a historical perspective and a road map for the future. This collaborative effort to create a modern urban opera merging two of the most active, sometimes controversial, and always cutting-edge artists in contemporary literature and music promises to introduce challenging social commentary and innovative concepts.

When describing this unique partnership Baraka says, “We want the music and words to extend to each other, be parts of the same expression, different pieces of the whole.” Murray says, “The subject has got to be America and what America is trying to be, so lets make an opera about what it can be.” The jazz opera is Thursday-Saturday, May 8-10 at EastSide Cultural Center, 2277 International Blvd., Oakland. Tickets are $20 General Admission, $10 Students up to 19 years old (with student ID). Discounted group rates for students are available, call (510) 533-6629. Visit http://www.eastsideartsalliance.org

& here, from the EastBAy Express:

The poet’s latest collaboration with tenor saxophonist David Murray, The Sisyphus Syndrome, spawned from the Greek myth about a king who was condemned to roll a boulder up a hill only to watch it roll back down — a process he had to repeat ad infinitum. Baraka said it’s a fitting allegory for the African-American experience. “It was W.E.B. Du Bois who said that’s what the African-American freedom movement is like,” he explained in a recent phone interview. Baraka staged his production as a historical epic with an overarching metaphor: Slavery ends and the rock rolls up; it goes down after the decline of Reconstruction and rise of the Klan; it goes up with civil rights and the Panthers, and down with the Bush administration. “It ends with the kind of note of realism that the rock is back down again,” said the poet. “It’s come down beneath our expectation.”

Baraka originally staged The Sisyphus Syndrome for a New York black opera company in 2004, but was dissatisfied with the result — partly because they scored it in the style of European opera, he said, and because it was more or less a star turn for one basso singer. This new, more contemporary version — featuring a six-person chorus, a dancer, and the four-piece Freedom Now! Band with Murray leading on saxophone — harks back to the post-bop idioms of 1960 to the present. “It’s really an attempt to put it in a completely contemporary mode even though it’s talking about old stuff,” said Baraka, indicating that he’s pleased with this production. Murray proved an ideal collaborator for someone who always writes with Monk or Trane playing in the background, and the score he developed for Sisyphus brings a sense of unity to the theme. Most importantly, though, it emphasizes the music in Baraka’s writing.

~ ~ ~

Oakland Opera Theatre presents: “Queenie Pie”

Queenie Pie is Duke Ellington’s only opera. Left unfinished at the time of his death in 1974, the opera is the story of a Harlem beauty queen, and was written as a tribute to Madame CJ Walker, the first African American woman millionaire. The piece has remained unperformed for over 20 years, and almost lost when Ellington’s son, Mercer, died Tom Shepherd completed the libretto. Shepperd is also a member of the hip hop band Felonius and a member of Campo Santo at Intersection for the Arts. Michael Mohammed directs. Noah Griffin is “Little Daddy” and actually shared the stage with Ellington, Paul Robeson and Leontyne Price.

A preview performance is May 9, and opens May 10. Queenie Pie closes May 25 and will on stage at Oakland Metro Operahouse, 630 Third Street (three blocks from jack London Square). For tickets which range from $24-$35 call (510) 763-1146 or visit http://www.oaklandopear.org.

So it’s a question of how do we absorb the resources of our culture? In America it’s funny because a lot of people don’t even understand that their culture is African, European and Native. You know what I mean? It’s broader than the establishment would have it be, obviously. To really absorb it you have to understand that you are all of it. And a lot of people don’t because of racism, or people are not well educated, don’t know much about the world. This is defiantly a culture that’s deep and rich, and richer and deeper than people even understand.

If you have Africa and Latin America and Europe to draw on, I mean effortlessly, as your psychological and historical kind of cultural development and you don’t know that, well, then you’ll settle for Kenny G. Amiri Baraka

24. Arcturus - 7 May 2008

the fact that he represents chaos and uncharted territory

o, nonsense!

25. aemd - 7 May 2008

Bloomberg doesn’t mention Obama’s win as the cause of the market decline.

..but they have been wrong before. 😀

26. NYCO - 7 May 2008

By all these measures — by every measure — it’s Barack Obama who has exemplified our lofty standards of feminist leadership

Apparently, the Amanda Marcotte standards?

27. liberalcatnip - 7 May 2008

Apparently, the Amanda Marcotte standards?

You got it!

Mr Feminist Goes to Washington

28. liberalcatnip - 7 May 2008

Such sore and confused losers: Hillary LOSES Indiana 53-47!

29. liberalcatnip - 7 May 2008

How to make O supporters’ heads explode: Superdelegates say, we will decide

Uncommitted Democratic superdelegates in Congress overwhelmingly say they won’t necessarily back the presidential candidate who wins the most primary delegates. Instead, electability will be very important in their decision.

Of 42 lawmakers interviewed by The Hill, only four said they regarded the primary vote as decisive.

The congressional superdelegates’ independence is precisely what Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) is banking on as she trails by about 130 pledged delegates behind rival Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.).

It also means the Democratic Caucus is unswayed by its leader, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), who has warned that the party will suffer if superdelegates overturn the will of primary voters. Pelosi has said superdelegates should take into account whatever is important but not give the nomination to the candidate who lags in delegates.

Fainting couch for Pelosi in aisle one.

30. wilfred - 7 May 2008

By the way the stock market was up the first few hours of the day, it plunged at midday.

31. liberalcatnip - 7 May 2008

it plunged at midday.

When the Obama latte crowd went out to celebrate? 😉 (kidding)

32. wilfred - 7 May 2008

lol, i think it happened when Hillpac said she’s leaving the race when they pry her dead fingers off the nomination.

33. Madman in the Marketplace - 7 May 2008

The market plunged when oil took a sudden lurch upward. Went right off a cliff right then … it had been hovering at flat-to-low-50s-down territory most of the day.

34. liberalcatnip - 7 May 2008

32. Buzzkill.

35. Madman in the Marketplace - 7 May 2008

Another Year of Carnage Brought to you by Corporate Democrats By Cindy Sheehan

The Democrats are working diligently to put a war funding bill on George’s desk that will give him two cycles of money for the illegal and obscene occupations in the Middle East connecting anti-poverty programs and VA educational benefits to the appropriation’s bill to exploit the horrible condition of poor families and vets who have risked life and limb because Congress is too worried about their political stakes than our children’s lives.

The Democrats, with shaky reasoning, feel that attaching a time-line on an appropriation’s bill for troop withdrawal (which George has promised to veto) by December 2009, will assuage the anti-war left that is becoming a bigger and bigger majority by the day. What the Democratic leadership is doing is putting their major donors and political futures ahead of our flesh and blood. Are you okay with the Democratic leadership thinking that you are dumber than a door bell and hoping that you don’t see their ploy for what it is: a pure political calculation to help themselves and harm everyone else.

Are you okay with borrowing 178 billion more dollars from China furthering the demise of our dollar, economy and enlarging our deficit? Are you okay with putting our children’s future at jeopardy so the Democrats can maybe widen their majority in Congress and perhaps put a Democrat in the White House?

Are you okay with the HUMANS of Iraq and Afghanistan (who bleed the same color you do and who love their children just as much) being exploited and abused for the sake of a bigger Democratic majority? Are you okay with our brothers and sisters in these countries being terrorized by OUR military? Are you okay with CHILDREN being demonized and then blown up by bombs dropped out of US jets? Are you okay with two countries being torn apart so Congress’ cronies can make obscene profits when you know that many Senators and Congressional Reps are invested in the very industries that profit off of the death, dismemberment and destruction?

Are you okay with the Democratic leadership attaching the funding of programs to help our nation’s neediest citizens to a bill that appropriates more money for a virtual genocide? Are you okay with the “Let them eat cake” mentality of such Democrats as Nancy Pelosi who wants to provide “guns for butter?” Are you okay with the Democratic leadership attaching provisions to fund Veteran educational benefits to a bill that will kill, maim and emotionally injure hundreds more of our troops?

Are you okay with paying over 4.00/gallon for gas while George and Dick’s cronies in the oil business are reaping obscene profits? Are you okay with spending more for food and other essentials because the cost to transport these items has skyrocketed because of the cost of gas?

Are you okay with the demonization of another country and the potential invasion of Iran? Are you okay with tens of thousands of other HUMAN lives being destroyed for the neocon agenda of world domination?

Are you okay with letting George Bush and Dick Cheney walking away from the pain they have caused by their crimes and corruption after eight years of their reign of terror? Are you okay with BushCo leading lives of ease and peace for the rest of their lives while our own country is mired in poverty and violence?

I am vehemently not okay with any of these things! I pray to everything that is sacred (life, liberty, family, and health) that you are also not okay with it.

Nancy Pelosi is Speaker of the House and she has the constitutionally enumerated power of doing two very relevant things: De-funding (Article I, Section 8, clause 11) the occupation (instead she is uber-funding it) and allowing articles of impeachment to be introduced against George and Dick (instead, Article II, Section 4 is off the table).

Do not allow the Corporate Democrats to pull the wool over your eyes… again. They are not working hard to end the occupation; they are working overtime to extend it for another year at the expense of our military and their families, our economy, our ecology, and the HUMANS in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Do not allow the Corporate Democrats to pay one more penny for these occupations because, whether you are aware of it or not, at a cost of 16 billion dollars a month to maintain the occupations, THIS WAR ECONOMY IS AFFECTING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY! Not just me, not just our troops and their families, not just the HUMANS thousands of miles away, but YOU!

If you are as outraged as Cindy for Congress is and you want the carnage to stop now, not later: please support our campaign for true change, peace, and accountability.

36. Madman in the Marketplace - 7 May 2008

33 – lol

37. Arcturus - 7 May 2008


Pritzker wrote in May 2001 that her family was recapitalizing the bank, and she pledged to “once again restore Superior’s leadership position in subprime lending.” The bank shut down in July 2001.

Pritzker’s attorney Kevin Poorman and Obama’s campaign spokesman emphasized that not all “subprime lending” is the “predatory” kind that Obama and White House rival Hillary Clinton rail against. The kind of subprime lending Superior was doing in 2001 was not predatory, Poorman said.

38. Arcturus - 7 May 2008

FBI withdraws National Snoop Letter:

In late April 2008, the FBI withdrew the unconstitutional NSL as part of the settlement of the case. In withdrawing the letter, the FBI lifted the gag order that prohibited Kahle and his attorneys at the ACLU and EFF from disclosing the existence of the NSL, allowing this story to become public for the first time. Once the case was settled, the [Internet] Archive [www.archive.org] and the FBI jointly moved to unseal the case and filed redacted versions of the key documents on the court’s public docket. The Archive is still prohibited from disclosing some information about the contents of the NSL.
. . .
Notably, every time an NSL recipient has challenged an NSL in court, the government has ultimately withdrawn its demand for records. To the ACLU’s knowledge, only 3 NSL recipients have ever challenged an NSL in court; in each case the recipient was represented by the ACLU. One case involved an NSL served on an Internet Service Provider (ISP). Another case involved an NSL served on a group of librarians. In both cases, the judges found the gag orders unconstitutional. In the ISP case, the district court ruled that NSL statute’s gag provisions were unconstitutional and invalidated the entire statute. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit is expected to hear oral arguments in the government’s appeal of that case next month.

Since the Patriot Act was authorized in 2001, relaxing restrictions on the FBI’s use of the power, the number of NSLs issued has seen an astronomical increase. Reports from the Justice Department’s Inspector General reveal that the FBI has issued nearly 200,000 NSL between 2003 and 2006. Multiple investigations have found serious FBI abuses of regulations and numerous potential violations of the law.

39. Madman in the Marketplace - 7 May 2008

The White Stuff

Of course, the guy is an Obama supporter, which apparently gives him the freedom to question the motivations of blacks who complain just a bit too much about racism. Stop whining and assimilate!, he more or less told them through me. White people are sick and tired of listening to your crap! It was an astonishing moment, as I had not until that instant guessed that this guy harbored such feelings. But it further underlines my belief that Obama is the perfect candidate for race-challenged liberals, since Obama makes them comfortable in their grayish-pink skins, and does not pester them with tales of racism and oppression. This will become more evident now that Obama has nailed down the nomination.

Naturally, those white libs who scoff at the very idea of institutional racism, especially the kind that may implicate them, will have no problem branding McCain as an old, race-baiting reactionary. That’s perfectly fine (although it is remarkable how far McCain’s stock has fallen among liberals, given that less than a decade ago, he was perhaps their favorite Repub). Indeed, it’s why many of them conflate Rev. Wright with nutjobs like John Hagee — in their world, you have to be crazy to cry about conditions that don’t affect them. I saw it on that liberal’s face yesterday when I defended some of Wright’s statements. He closed his eyes and made snoring noises, then smirked and waved away arguments he had no desire to rebut. I was a bit surprised by this, but I really shouldn’t have been. The only way Obama carries a large white vote in November is by letting his white supporters off the historical hook. There are worse electoral strategies, but few carry such extremely smug, self-flattering baggage.

40. marisacat - 7 May 2008

Madman (2)


Arcturus (1)

out of Moderation.

Sorry! for the delay. Sound asleep……….. 8)

41. marisacat - 7 May 2008

37 on Arcturus link on the NSL letters

Another case involved an NSL served on a group of librarians.

If I had not terminally thrown my hands up in the air over the Democrats, the 3 hour program from C-Span that I saw on the CT librarians who got the national security letter would have done it.

They were giving a sort of speech and discussion of the whole of the event to an interested group in VT… and along the way, asked the group to lobby Leahy about this.

Get this. They, the CT librarians had contacted his office and sought to meet with him or an aide about the .. I guess, couple of years that their lives hung in the balance. They went literally into a twilight zone once the letter was delivered. One of the realities of getting such a letter, apparently, is that you are forbidden to discuss it with anyone. Finally in some convoluted way they were able to reach out to the ACLU.

This will remind of Nancy and her sweep by the Code Pink protesters… only worse.

Leahy would not meet with the CT librarians. They were not his consitituants.

You serve on the Judiciary, you are, at that time, the ranking member as your party is out of power. A significant national level event such as happened to the CT librarians occurs… after the event, they reach out to you for a meeting. But they are not Vermonters.

I don’t even have words for what fuckingpettyshouldbeshotlittleRomanovs the congress is.

42. marisacat - 7 May 2008


I had read part one of the articles at Counterpunch on the money people, Wall St etc, involved with Obama camp. Think you linked to both earlier today or yesterday… There has been but a trickle of reporting on this. The White Liberal Mostly Male But Also Female press is just shaking, sweating, jelly for him.

Pritzker (forget her first name, something childish liek Penny or Patty), iirc, serves as his National Finance Co Chair iirc. and is one of the group of 300 who raised half of the money for his ’04 run. Also iirc.

There si always a ton of scrambling insects hiding under the rocks when they use religion to sell a candidate. Or to sell anything. Messiah my ass.

43. James - 7 May 2008

The 1990s were the best decade in the last 50 years? For shizzle? I wonder for whom?

44. cad - 7 May 2008

Would love to see Sheehan kick Pelosi out.

45. marisacat - 7 May 2008


Considering how the Obama camp has, in various tones of voice from whisper to more, indicated over and over that a significant number is ready to move to him.. he REALLY needs a bloc to move on one day.

Forget which political writer today said, but it just does not happen. The Super Dels seem fine with not ending it.

I assume her money dries up now, tho. Once the righties saw an entire industry can be built off Obama/related issues and that there are skeletons in his closet (the sort the righties yearn for) they are pretty happy with how things are turning out.

He and his seem to have really bought the Holy Redeemer slop however. at least as a vehicle over the rocky shoals and on to Power!

There is an op ed piece (today) from a regular contributor to USA Today (LOL a media arm that Obama likes and likes to use) stating, what took so long on the Wright story and for media to get over him and wake up. Apparently both Obama (who handed his old friend badly at the time of the disinivte, appallingly badly) and Axelrod etc were totally asleep at the helm. Really dumb not to know how our system works. Which they must know, esp Axelrod.

LOL except they love McC and may have to choose, they will remain in a sort of sexual ecstasy twilight sleep as long as possible.

46. wilfred - 7 May 2008

42. For Wall St. traders

47. Madman in the Marketplace - 7 May 2008
48. diane - 7 May 2008

So ironic the ‘progress’ of our having a “black” and “female” candidate, against the backdrop of such a hideous surge of racism and misogyny…been meaning to post this but not able to get to it, skimmed for it, and didn’t see it posted yet (warning, not for the squeamish):
Is There an Army Cover-Up of Rape and Murder of Women Soldiers?

’’ The Department of Defense statistics are alarming – one in three women who join the US military will be sexually assaulted or raped by men in the military…..

But, now, even more alarming, are deaths of women soldiers in Iraq and in the United States following rape. The military has characterized each death of women who were first sexually assaulted as deaths from “noncombat related injuries,” and then added “suicide.” ….Specific US Army units and certain US military bases in Iraq have an inordinate number of women soldiers who have died of “noncombat related injuries,” with several identified as “suicides.”
Eight women soldiers from Fort Hood, Texas, (six from the Fourth Infantry Division and two from the 1st Armored Cavalry Division) have died of “noncombat related injuries” on the same base, Camp Taji, and three were raped before their deaths. Two were raped immediately before their deaths and another raped prior to arriving in Iraq. Two military women have died of suspicious “noncombat related injuries” on Balad base, and one was raped before she died. Four deaths have been classified as “suicides.”

Nineteen-year-old US Army Pvt. Lavena Johnson was found dead on the military base in Balad, Iraq, in July, 2005, and her death characterized by the US Army to be suicide from a self-inflicted M-16 shot…..

From the day their daughter’s body was returned to them, the parents had grave suspicions about the Army’s investigation into Lavena’s death and the characterization of her death as suicide…..

Over the next two and one-half years, Dr. and Mrs. Johnson and their family and friends relentlessly, through the Freedom of Information Act and Congressional offices requested the Department of the Army for documents concerning Lavena’s death…..

After two years of requesting documents, one set of papers provided by the Army included a photocopy copy of a CD. Wondering why the photocopy copy was in the documents, Dr. Johnson requested the CD itself. With help from his local Congressional representative, the US Army finally complied. When Dr. Johnson viewed the CD, he was shocked to see photographs taken by Army investigators of his daughter’s body as it lay where her body had been found, as well as other photographs of her disrobed body taken during the investigation.

The photographs revealed that Lavena, a small woman, barely five feet tall and weighing less than 100 pounds, had been struck in the face with a blunt instrument, perhaps a weapon stock. Her nose was broken and her teeth knocked backwards. One elbow was distended. The back of her clothes had debris on them indicating she had been dragged from one location to another. The photographs of her disrobed body showed bruises, scratch marks and teeth imprints on the upper part of her body. The right side of her back as well as her right hand had been burned, apparently from a flammable liquid poured on her and then lighted. The photographs of her genital area revealed massive bruising and lacerations. A corrosive liquid had been poured into her genital area, probably to destroy DNA evidence of sexual assault.

Despite the bruises, scratches, teeth imprints and burns on her body, Lavena was found completely dressed in the burning tent. There was a blood trail from outside a contractor’s tent to inside the tent. Apparently, she had been dressed after the attack and her attacker placed her body into the tent and set it on fire.…..
……..shortly into the investigation, a decision apparently was made by higher officials that the investigators must stop the investigation into a homicide and to classify her death a suicide.

There’s quite a bit more to the article, it’s pretty lengthy.

49. marisacat - 7 May 2008

thanks for the alert Madman. I might have given myself a few weeks break from Moyers. Also he ramps up more and more in elections with Kathleen Hall Jamison and i enjoyed her last decade. Before she fell in lvoe with McC this decade.

I have not searched the news to see what is the underpinning of all the ads between CNA and SEIU (I’ll side with CNA) so will be happy to be spoon fed

50. James - 7 May 2008

Yeah the Wall St. traders made out like bandits. Rest of us? Not so much.

Oh, if you want to pass some popcorn: enjoy the Kosswhacks freak out at Mickey Z’s latest offering.

51. Madman in the Marketplace - 7 May 2008

I tried reading up on the CNA/SEIU feud, and I don’t see anything other than Stern acting as a hatchet man for the Donks and making a power play for more members for his outfit. That’s all. Maybe I missed something.

52. Arcturus - 7 May 2008
53. marisacat - 7 May 2008

thanks for that Arcturus.

I am going to give CNA and RdeMoro credit for going up against Arnold.

The flip side is Stern too cosy with CA Assembly, Pelosi and her CA crowd. And Arnold.

54. marisacat - 7 May 2008


I think both races are lousy decoupage. Something to prove we are advancing. I mean, inevitably we move somewhere, but not to the credit of some innate and nourishing marvelousness of either Ob or Hil.

55. liberalcatnip - 7 May 2008
56. liberalcatnip - 7 May 2008

48. That’s brutal.

Last year, when I posted about the sexual abuse scandal in the military on my blog, I had a visitor from the Pentagon who turned out to be a US military damage control spokespuppet trying to convince my readers that everything was being taken care of. I didn’t buy that, of course, and told him where to go and how to get there. Asshole.

57. liberalcatnip - 7 May 2008

I have not searched the news to see what is the underpinning of all the ads between CNA and SEIU (I’ll side with CNA) so will be happy to be spoon fed

Well, at least you’re not running ads like Atrios who then admitted he had absolutely no idea what was going on. 😉

58. liberalcatnip - 7 May 2008
59. marisacat - 7 May 2008

HA! The Torch is unassailed by protesters… it is 29K feet up, in the mountains…Mt Everest… I am surprised they kept the damned thing lit, it looked to be blowing snow and ice and whatever else.

60. bayprairie - 8 May 2008

markos moulitsas at it again earlier today.

That’s code for “overturing abortion rights”. At a time when the Democratic nominee has a potential problem with Democratic women voters, this is a nice reminder of what’s at stake.

that jerk has zero concern about “what’s at stake” for women.

61. marisacat - 8 May 2008

really, it is no more than the propaganda they use to keep women on the reservation.

The biggest lies. The war, health care… it sold well enough on the Dem side of the aisle. How it plays from here on out, and really it is just an exercise in observing the spigot and the pabulum … the Dems intend to do nothing, at all, about anything.

62. marisacat - 8 May 2008

A classic – of a sort. Stoller dons his pre presidential knee pads. The lines are deathless, keeper, as they say:

From top to bottom, they have destroyed their opponents within the party, stolen out from under them their base, and persuaded a whole set of individuals from blog readers to people in the pews to ignore intermediaries and believe in Barack as a pure vessel of change.

Get ready for this one… remember these are the people who mishandled a prickle from the get go then spent weeks stumbling, and, in my reading back, have written the R ads about wright FOR THEM (and that is not even discussing Rezko)… but hold on, they be gods from the Dem Olympus:

Obama has successfully remade the Democratic Party already, and shown that old partisan Washington politics is over if you are a Democrat. Can he do that with Republicans? By stripping power, money and responsibility from outside groups and opponents, Obama is increasing his control of the party apparatus. He is also, however, putting everything on his own shoulders. When the Swift Boaters come back, and they will, it’s all on Obama and his movement to hit back. He’s betting that he can strip power from their base just as he stripped power from the old Washington way of doing politics within the Democratic Party.

Wait… there is more:

…it’s time to get ready for a party that is being taken apart and rebuilt as the Obama movement. It’s incredibly refreshing, in a sense, for politics to be completely reimagined on top of the internet and with a strong focus on leadership development, volunteers, and outside of DC leadership disdainful of partisanship and the give and take of politics-as-usual. It’s also displacing the anti-Bush arguments of the last eight years and the political dynamic it fostered on the left.

I have laughed so hard tears are coming… get this one:

We have a leader, and he’s not a partisan and he can now end fractious intraparty fights with a word and/or a nod. His opinion really matters in a way that even Nancy Pelosi’s just did not. He has control of the party apparatus, the grassroots, the money, and the messaging environment. He is also, and this is fundamental, someone that millions of people believe in as a moral force. When you disagree with Obama, you are saying to these people ‘your favorite band sucks’.

What can one say? It is all too soviet for my taste.


He is attempting to completely rewrite the rules of politics, and we should try to figure out what that means for where we take our meager work. Obama is now the party leader. And he has ensured and we have given him the mandate that when he speaks, he speaks for all of us. I hope he’s a vibrant progressive when he gets into office, and we should begin figuring out how to put ourselves in a position to help him take the country in a progressive direction.

BTW… and I merely credit the Baby Stoller as I have no idea where he got these names.. but he mentions that while regrettable and so old school that nevertheless Obama most likely will make Daschle his CoS and Artur Davis, a DLC (for real, most of last year his pic was part of their banner) CBC twit out of AL, his AG.

We are so blessed with our Jesus.

As I say, I have lived under a lot of shits, like everyone else. What gibberish. What slobber. Plus they consider McC a ”weak candidate”.

Not if you don’t take him down.

[sorry for the length… the back pages of WP are so slow, I did not bother to open the post up top]

63. marisacat - 8 May 2008

hmm reading the thread to the toddler version of a manifesto, I see someone lauds a Booman post called (swallow now) Understanding Victory.

Think I will have a cup of coffee before I read that slop.

64. NYCO - 8 May 2008

It seems as if we’ve just handed control of the U.S. over from a small group of children (Bush and his cronies) to a Children’s Crusade.

I suppose we should have seen this coming.

65. marisacat - 8 May 2008


[I]n addition, members of Congress have marveled at the Obama campaign’s success — repeated in North Carolina and Indiana on Tuesday — in mobilizing volunteers and tens of thousands of first-time voters, especially younger ones and African-Americans. “Where do all these 20-somethings come from?” said Rep. David Price of North Carolina, who saw Sen. Obama’s organization at work throughout his state and recently endorsed him.

Even some congressional Democrats who privately confide that they don’t think Sen. Obama can be elected president believe they can benefit from the new voters he’d likely draw in November. Sen. Clinton is too polarizing, these members say. Worse, her nomination could depress the Democratic vote if the new Obama voters believe he was cheated out of the nomination. ::snip::

66. ms_xeno - 8 May 2008


Memo From Kos:

Dear Sluts, Tramps & Whores

Abortion is horrible. Vote Obama or else.


Your Lord & Master

67. NYCO - 8 May 2008

Worse, her nomination could depress the Democratic vote if the new Obama voters believe he was cheated out of the nomination.

I wonder how many sweater-clad old ladies in Michigan and Pennsylvania are going to drag themselves in for Obama? Oh, I forgot, they’re nonpersons.

McCain could possibly win this thing in the swing states just by doing nursing home and VA hospital tours. I hope the Children of Obama don’t believe they have the “movement” market sewn up… this election could wind up looking like a remake of The Goonies vs. Cocoon.

68. marisacat - 8 May 2008

The Movement would tarnish its religious symbology if it admitted that without Clinton as the object of hatred its a whole new ball game.

I thought [and still think] all three candidates had glaring vulnerabilities. Big ones. But watching Obama campaign was instructive these past months. He had a few rough weeks (that is all it is, Wright via ABC surfaced March 13) and he and his personality went into reverse, literally. He did things the last weekend of campaigning that he should have been doing all along. One of which was his first assisted living center since Iowa… LOL.

But having won now, that will all go by the wayside. Big air war, extreme distance again from media. Meet and greet mostly at closed events, otherwise with socially acceptable peers.

My guess is, like too many Dems have done, he assumes he can ace McC in the debates. All the McC people have to do is make sure he has a couple, not even 6 or 7, hard weeks before a debate.

Yeah McC a very stiff, old, crazy, strange candidate could indeed win.

69. NYCO - 8 May 2008

All McCain has to do is pick Huckabee as VP (the logical choice) and not only will his base be fired up, but a lot of older Dems won’t think he’s so bad. Huckabee wasn’t viable as a presidential candidate, but as VP candidate he’ll perhaps draw away a lot of fire and allow McCain to dodder onward magisterially (without erupting into his trademark temper).

Not to mention, Huckabee was actually a governor, which might give people confidence. How in God’s name did we wind up with three senators (four, if you count Edwards) as leading contenders in a year like this?

Obama had better pick a governor as VP, that is for damn sure. Richardson, probably.

70. NYCO - 8 May 2008

Further thought, before I forget it…

This whole primary is starting to remind me of the big dance in Grease. The whole sequence. With Howard Dean in the Eve Arden role, and Obama as Danny and the Netroots as Sandy. And we all know how that dance ended up.

How looooow can you go…

71. JJB - 8 May 2008

In the previous comment thread, liberalcatnip noted that Duncan Black was blissfully unaware that his site was running dueling adverts for the SEIU and CNA, and when informed of this, rather charmingly noted that he was completely clueless as to why these organizations were slagging each other. DB certainly does seem to be spending a lot of time in the ozone layer these days. His site has long consisted of FP posts that merely quote work done by other people, with a few words from him along the lines of “Look what I found [quoted material] isn’t that neat?” Now we’re getting wordier posts that incidate a mind that’s aimlessly wandering as his fingers type. Here’s two recent posts FP items:

What Happened to the Future?

It’s occurred to me recently that all the whiz-bang gadgets predicted either already exist in some form, or are unlikely to exist anytime soon. If one were to write a technology-centric non-dystopian novel about, say, the year 2040, what neato things would we imagine?

I can’t come up with much.

-Atrios 22:10

The Weather’s Nice, Stay Indoors

I always found it truly bizarre how nice the weather is but how difficult it was to enjoy it.

Of course you can enjoy it, in the planned physical activity sense. Go hiking! Go to the beach! But it isn’t integrated in your day to day life in any sense because you’re in your car.

-Atrios 19:49

The threads for those posts contain close to 800 comments, more or less equally split between the two.

Sooner or later, someone’s going to realize that the sort of person who would care to comment on topics such as that aren’t really the sort of people you want to bother advertising to. Kind of like how the old, awful NY Daily Mirror went out of business in spite of the fact that it sold 800,000 copies a day. Advertisers believed (rightly) that the sort of people who’d read a paper that wretched had no money to spend on anything else. As the owner of one of NY’s biggest department stores said to Rupert Murdoch when asked why he didn’t advertise in the NY Post, “your readers are our shoplifters.”

72. JJB - 8 May 2008

Comment in moderation or spam.

73. wilfred - 8 May 2008

LOL, one of our local congressmen Vito Fonsella, a big conservative and Bush lackey from Staten Island was arrested last week for DUI in the DC suburbs, having had twice the legal limit. He told the police he was visiting his sick daughter and then changed his story to say he was on his way to see friends.

Today he owned up, he has a 3 year old love child in DC with his mistress and a wife and 3 kids back in Staten Island. His mistress picked him up from jail. He’s up for reelection in November thankfully (or not as the case may be).

74. JJB - 8 May 2008

Chris Floyd is just about the only person paying attention to the obscene war we are fighting by proxy in Somalia:

The American-backed invasion, and the depradations of the American-backed TFG, which was helped into power by Somali warlords in the pay of the CIA, have, inevitably, radicalized opposition forces, some of whom respond with similar brutality. As in Iraq and Afghanistan, violent “regime change” aggression only exacerbates the extremism it purports to combat. And, as in the other Terror War operations, the chaos wrought by the war in Somalia breaks down all vestiges of society and human communion, leaving people prey to freebooting criminal gangs and the ravages of desperation.

In the face of all this deliberately fomented horror — and its embrace by the entire American political establishment — it is difficult to regard the U.S. presidential race as anything other than a sickening obscenity, played out on a stage drenched in viscera. “Oh my god, did you hear what Harold Ickes said about Barack?!” “Mercy me, did you hear what those latte-swilling Obamaniks said about Hillary’s gas tax plan?!” This is juvenile navel-gazing taken to sinister extremes. I honestly cannot fathom such people, who pretend to care about politics and policy — yet ignore the unspeakable ruin and suffering that are the reality of our politics, the accepted, bipartisan results of our policies.

I don’t know if he was thinking of Kosolini and his cult members when he wrote that last sentence, but it’s as perfect a description of their mindset as you’ll ever find. No wonder they banned him.

In other news:

It seems we are about to launch yet one more effort against the Sadrists in Sadr City, and the Iraqi Army (such as it is) has warned residents to leave.

And it appears Mark Penn based his Billary For President strategy on the notion that Dem primaries are winner take all. They haven’t been for a very long time.

75. JJB - 8 May 2008

Was Billary channeling George Wallace, circa 1970 here?

Hillary Rodham Clinton vowed Wednesday to continue her quest for the Democratic nomination, arguing she would be the stronger nominee because she appeals to a wider coalition of voters — including whites who have not supported Barack Obama in recent contests.

“I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on,” she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article “that found how Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”

“There’s a pattern emerging here,” she said. [boy, is there ever, though not the one you mean, Billary. – JJB]

I refer to the late Alabama governor’s run for the statehouse in 1970, when he said his opponent had an unfair advantage due to the “block vote.” That’s not a typo, he never explicitly mentioned racial matters that year, just said he was disadvantaged due to the large “block” vote that was bound to go against him in spite of the fact that he was such a great guy. Just what sort of a “block” this was he never actually said. Have to admit this was awfully clever, even rather witty. It worked too. He’d been trailing his opponent (who was the incumbent who’d become governor when Wallace’s wife had died in early 1968), this turned around enough voters to win him another term.

Well, as many posters to this site have previously noted, you don’t get anywhere in Southern politics without being able to do this sort of thing in such a way as to be able to plausibly deny you aren’t appealing to racist sentiments. Even Jimmy Carter did it. When he ran for governor of Georgia in 1970, his campaign gave wide distribution to a flyer that showed his opponent being doused with champagne by a couple of black members of the Atlanta Hawks basketball team after he’d stopped by to congratulate them on making the playoffs.

76. ms_xeno - 8 May 2008

JJB: …Sooner or later, someone’s going to realize that the sort of person who would care to comment on topics such as that aren’t really the sort of people you want to bother advertising to…

Why doesn’t he just do the logical thing and convert the site officially into a dating service. Then he can hire Elise G. Harding and her merry band of jigglers ‘n gigglers over to help out with the fashion page and stuff.

At first glance, I thought there were going to be 800 contesting comments about the Union fracas. I deserve to be roundly scolded for my remaining vestiges of naivete. [blush]

77. JJB - 8 May 2008

ms_x, no. 76,

Why doesn’t he just do the logical thing and convert the site officially into a dating service.

Though a very logical thing to do, at this point it would require much more disciplined effort than DB is capable of exerting. There’s an old Mose Allison song that goes “your mind’s on vacation and your mouth’s working overtime,” that suits Duncan to a “T” these days.

78. ms_xeno - 8 May 2008


Well, the relationship between party and blogger (or blog ruler and blog vassals) is most reminiscent of another Allison song, “You Can Count On Me To Do My Part.”

Let’s talk it over, let’s get get it straight
Don’t let th’ situation escalate
You know there’s always problems when a man is wrapped up in his art
But don’t you worry, Baby, you can count on me to do my part

You keep on working, I’m looking round
Don’t let your girlfriend put me down
You know it’s tough these days for a proud man to make a start
But don’t you worry, Baby, you can count on me to do my part

You wash the dishes, I’ve gotta run
You know that night life ain’t such fun
Now don’t wait up for me ’cause I know you need your rest, Sweetheart
And just remember, Baby, you can count on me to do my part…

79. JJB - 8 May 2008

I don’t intend to turn this into an All-Duncan, All-Day thread, but no sooner do I accuse him of being hopelessly lazy and unfocused to the point of incomprehensibility than he posts the following:

Are There Any Republicans Left?

Vito’s holding on, but not for much longer.

I haven’t mentioned this story yet because I haven’t had a chance to see if he’s on the record as being a big family values hypocrite, or if he’s just one due to his membership in the Republican party. Though the way over the limit DUI is rather problematic in itself. I’m somewhat sympathetic to those who get a DUI who are just flirting with the legal limit, but really driving drunk is a bad thing to do.

–Atrios 12:45

You blog about politics for a living, DB. It’s apparently your main, perhaps sole, source of revenue. How difficult is it to read a couple of stories and see that Congresscritter Vito claimed he was on his way to deal with a family emergency (i.e., going to pick up a sick daughter) when the cops busted him? In fact, he’d been thrown out of the bar where he’d been drinking, and ran a red light.

Though I think we can all agree with Duncan’s eloquent remark that “really driving drunk is a bad thing to do,” and rest assured that he never does so after a Drinking Liberally event.

80. NYCO - 8 May 2008

As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article “that found how Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again”

oh, ugh. This primary makes me want to just jump into the shower and never come out.

81. NYCO - 8 May 2008

It’s Not a Compound!

(It’s their ranch, and it’s their home…)

82. marisacat - 8 May 2008

speaking of race.. I linked a couple of days ago to a post by Skeptical Brotha (he’s over in the blogroll if anyone wants to read the entry, it’s the May 6 one) who is 1 black, 2 lives in a small NC town… and his post on Bill campaigning thru NC is on target.

However along the way he mentioned something that I had not known about Jimmie Carter… apparently while he was in the WH the pastor of his small Plains Baptist church tried to de segregate the church. And the pastor was removed. I did not goggle around to get details… but I cannot believe that had Jimmie or Miss Lillian intervened that it would have meant nothing. In such a tiny town, the sitting president and his mother could not intervene and make sure the pastor was kept? And oddly I just heard Jimmie on with Tavis last night about his book and he mentioned that “all our neighbors were black”.

On the other hand in terms of things said in this run… Obama’s fictions and bromides on race on effing tedious. The top note probably was his “90% of the way there.”

I’ll say again I am happy to be onto the GE, in some form … and he should go all the way [live with Jesus!]… but putting that card board cut out in the WH is the end of being able to argue there is institutionalised racism, to a desperate and horrible degree, in this country. White people will shut down any try at it, from here forward. And any idea, however slight, at at least some form of corporate reparations is over. Forever.

BTW, will hunt for it… but Ishmeal Read, who called Bill the black presdient bfore Morrison did – and for very different reasons – had a good post delineating the reasoning he took… it’s at Counterpunch will pull it up.

83. cad - 8 May 2008

“When you disagree with Obama, you are saying to these people ‘your favorite band sucks’.”

Stoller doesn’t even know how much he’s nailed the Obamatons and the shallow level of their thought process.

What if they’re favorite band is Menudo?

84. marisacat - 8 May 2008

You know cad, when I first read some of these people, like Stoller Bowers etc., at Dkos in 2003 I had assume they were in their very early 20s, at the latest. Imagine my shock to find out they were all round the bend mid to late 30s.,

85. JJB - 8 May 2008

MCat, no. 82,

I don’t remember anything about a pastor being dismissed. However, during the 1976 campaign, a black person (not a Plains resident, IIRC) tried to become of member of the church in Plains to which Carter belonged, and it emerged that not only did the church’s by-laws specifically deny membership to African-Americans, the language of the relevant clause clause had originally used the N-word (although it may have been changed to “Negro” at some point). As I recall, Carter lobbied very hard to have the clause dropped, which the Church very grudgingly agreed to do. The person in question was not made a member, however. It was a rather bizarre incident that was pretty much forgotten as soon as it happened. I remember that Alexander Cockburn, who then wrote a press criticism column for the Village Voice, was the only person to note that the MSM was ignoring the fact that Plains was obviously a highly racist area. There was some talk to the effect that the person who’d forced this issue had been put up by the GOP, but I don’t think this was ever proven.

Another rather obvious (and ignored) point is that while it’s true the Carters had numerous black neighbors, they were all the decendents of sharecroppers and (most likely) slaves who’d worked the Carter’s land for generations.

86. wilfred - 8 May 2008

TPM reporting that Cyndeeeee refuses to ever release her tax returns, even if she ends up First Lady.

87. marisacat - 8 May 2008

Another rather obvious (and ignored) point is that while it’s true the Carters had numerous black neighbors, they were all the decendents of sharecroppers and (most likely) slaves who’d worked the Carter’s land for generations.

oh yeah I took that as a given. I grew up spending summers in Georgia. Macon to be precise. And Milledgeville. Both hearts of the Old South, Deep South South, however one views it.

88. marisacat - 8 May 2008


well no one ws ever going to get much from her beyond what TH-K finally agreed to, the first two sheets of her 1040 for the two previous years (as I recall).

LOL If it is true, and I assume it is, that Cyndi and McC basically live apart, that she moved sometime ago (not just due to the stroke) to a place near S Diego with Bridgette… he’s lucky she puts in day after day on the road. She will never bother…

And really, tax returns, which should be released as a requiremnt of running – for all years you served at the public trough,, have been a bouncing ball in this messy run.

I say we try for the long promised JSM MEDICAL records… LOL.

89. NYCO - 8 May 2008

84. I keep having a nightmare that someday, Bowers is going to drift back to his hometown (MY town) and start blogging about local politics. I wake up screaming.

90. ms_xeno - 8 May 2008

NYCO, he’ll probably end up here at Bloooooooo Boregon. He’ll fit right in.

91. ms_xeno - 8 May 2008

Since I’ve helped hijack this thread, maybe somebody should send Carter an mp.3 of Allison’s “Variations on Dixie.” Allison is from Tippo, MI but never lived full-time in the South again after his time in the Army. When he sings “In Dixieland I played my hand/Came to understand in Dixie…” there’s a whole lot hanging in the air before he moves on to the next verse. 😉

92. marisacat - 8 May 2008

ugh. We can expect more of this mess of an article on the State of Racism Today… in The Economist. Relying on John McWhorter .. They somehow missed pertinent commentary from Ward Connerly, god knows how.

What a mess.

93. Arcturus - 8 May 2008


Writing in The Baltimore Sun, I was the first to identify Clinton as a black president as a result of his mimicking a black style. (I said he was the second, since Warren G. Harding never denied the rumors about his black ancestry.) As a result of his ability to imitate the black preaching style, Clinton was able to seduce black audiences, who ignored some of his actions that were unfriendly, even hostile to blacks. His interrupting his campaign to get a mentally disabled black man, Ricky Ray Rector executed. (Did Mrs. Clinton tear up about this act?) His humiliation of Jesse Jackson. His humiliation of Jocelyn Elders and Lani Gunier. The welfare reform bill that has left thousands of women black, white, yellow and brown destitute, prompting Robert Scheer to write in the San Francisco Chronicle, “To his everlasting shame as president, Clinton supported and signed welfare legislation that shredded the federal safety net for the poor from which he personally had benefited.” (Has Ms. Clinton shed a tear for these women, or did she oppose her husband’s endorsement of this legislation?) His administration saw a high rate of black incarceration as a result of Draconian drug laws that occurred during his regime. He advocated trade agreements that sent thousands of jobs overseas. (Did Mrs. Clinton, with misty eyes, beg him to assess how such trade deals would effect the livelihood of thousands of families, black, white, brown, red and yellow?) He refused to intervene to rescue thousands of Rwandans from genocide. (Did Mrs. Clinton tearfully beseech her husband to intervene on behalf of her African sisters; did Ms. Gloria Steinem, whose word is so influential among millions of white women that she can be credited by some for changing the outcome of a primary, and maybe an election, marshal these forces to place pressure upon Congress to rescue these black women and girls?)

. . . he falls in the tradition of the southern demagogue: grinning with and sharing pot liker and cornbread with black folks, while signifying about them before whites. Ishmael Reed

or alternatively:

ALI: What about his personality made you characterize him as such?

REED: In my article on CounterPunch, I said he comes from a tradition of Southern demagogues. He’s got this Anglo, Yale background. He went to England to study. So, most don’t recognize him as a Southern demagogue. I belong to something called the Calhoun House at Yale; I’m a Calhoun Fellow. John Calhoun was a Southerner. They named a House after him. I mean, you can’t get any more Southern than Calhoun; he was for nullification. Harvard, where I’m a Signet Fellow, even contemplated casting a Memorial for Confederate soldiers who attended Harvard.The Black students countered that if they were going to do that they should also cast a memorial for the Japanese Admiral who led the attack on Pearl Harbor. He also attended Harvard. So Southerners have graduated from both Yale and Harvard: Clinton and Calhoun.

ALI: Calhoun was a secessionist, right?

REED: Right, a secessionist. They are another type of Southern demagogues. I mention them as those who hang out with Blacks and are friendly with Blacks like Huey Long. But, basically, they are segregationists. They pal around with African Americans– just like Jefferson Davis did. His biographers say Davis pal’d around with his Black help, but when the Union troops invaded his property, a black slave told them where– (Laughs.) where his papers were. There was a Union spy, a black woman, who stayed in the Jefferson Davis household throughout the war. In fact, she’s been cited in the Museum of Military Intelligence. Unfortunately, her relatives destroyed her diary.

So, the idea was that Clinton hangs out with Blacks, is familiar with Blacks, and picks up some of their style. Sort of like an Elvis Presley figure. But, who uses race as a wedge issue when he campaigns for whites. Naming Names with Ishmael Reed

y mas:

The Crazy Rev. Wright

94. Arcturus - 8 May 2008

the end of the last:

Martin Luther King. Jr. had a dream. Here’s mine. What would happen if all of the whites holding forth in Op-eds and on cable about race- both in the progressive and corporate media- the middle persons who interpret black America for whites( when they are capable of speaking for themselves), the screenwriters and TV writers who make millions from presenting blacks as scum, and the authors of the fake ghetto books would just shut the fuck up for a few months and listen. Just listen. Listen to blacks, browns, reds and yellows, people whose views are ignored by the segregated media. Listen, not just to their meek colored mind doubles like an Obama critic, Rev. Rivers, who nobody’s ever heard of, but people who will level with them.

In 1957, Doubleday released Richard Wright’s White Man Listen. In it, he wrote “…the greatest aid that any white Westerner can give Africa is by becoming a missionary right in the heart of the Western world, explaining to his own people what they have done to Africa.”

Nobody expects the media to educate the public about Africa. The current coverage is consistent with the images found in the Tarzan movies. It’s not going to change. I’ll settle for missionary work among the American public. Free them from entrapment by the corporate media, which are causing their brain cells to atrophy. Teach them the other points of views that are smothered by the noise, and trivialized on You Tube. Then maybe they’ll understand where the crazy Rev. Wright is coming from.

95. marisacat - 8 May 2008

yup… that is the Counterpunch article.. thanks for fishing it (and the other links as well) up Arcturus…

and I remember /loved this bit:

just like Jefferson Davis did. His biographers say Davis pal’d around with his Black help, but when the Union troops invaded his property, a black slave told them where– (Laughs.) where his papers were. There was a Union spy, a black woman, who stayed in the Jefferson Davis household throughout the war. In fact, she’s been cited in the Museum of Military Intelligence. Unfortunately, her relatives destroyed her diary.

96. wu ming - 8 May 2008

on the topic of the CNA-SEIU thing, i wrote a post about a potential proxy war in the 8th AD primary. if you check the comments, you’ll notice that the guy who responds may very well be the CEO of kaiser.

interesting stuff.

97. marisacat - 8 May 2008

wu ming…

thanks for posting that. it certainly seems that lawrence, for whatever reason, is out to trash Yamada.

I hope he stops back and it was not a drive by slash and burn. he should answer you………….

98. wu ming - 8 May 2008

i assume he’s not just some random guy, just by the fact that he knew the stuff he was saying, but it would be a riot if he turned out to be that lawrence. i hope he responds too, if just because that could tease out a more interesting story than just me musing on endorsements.

if the CNA is quietly planning on using primaries to nudge the dems towards passing kuehl’s bill in a non-symbolic sense, that is very heartening. long since past time for them to start making factional power plays, IMO. that’s what safe seats are for, after all.

99. Arcturus - 8 May 2008

well, wu ming, I hope you’re right about what those endorsements mean on single-payer. Is Cabaldon the West Sac mayor tied by the Justic Reform Coalition to the funky gang-injunction for the benefit of his developer buddies?

Do you know if Sal Rosselli is still head of UHW, or has he been forced out yet? the gist of the difference (between CNA & SEIU, as wella s UHW & the SEIU leadership), as I get it, is between the top-down corporate-accomodationist model & a worker-empowered grass-roots one — tho iirc (& may be waaay off-base), hasn’t there also been friction between UHW/Rosselli & CNA? one complicating/confusing factor, for me, was that UHW reached out to a wider range of health care workers (Roseselli a big home care organizer, I believe) than CNA’s narrower base of strictly nurses

(my plezha, MC – there’s an I Reed folder on the HD here – did you read his The Irish Black Thing? I didn’t know Bob Callahan had died. The publishing work that he & Eilleen O’Malley Callahan did under the Turtle Island imprint – & the multi-kulti vision it embodied – was, as they say, a highly shaping influence on my young mind . . .

100. marisacat - 8 May 2008

let me take a look Arcturus… cannot remember right now if I have read it or not. I almost always agree with Ishmael… very rarely disagree. He did a wonderful long long long piece in C’punch following the race baiting of the SC primary, this go round.

BTW, just a reminder that Madman posted yesterday that Rose De Moro of CNA will be on with Moyers this Friday…

101. Arcturus - 8 May 2008

the Chron’s obit on Bob C – I didn’t know he’d once been a speech-writer for RFK

102. liberalcatnip - 8 May 2008

I had assume they were in their very early 20s, at the latest. Imagine my shock to find out they were all round the bend mid to late 30s.,

30-something is the new 12 with those guys.

103. ms_xeno - 8 May 2008

Somebody at LJ just informed me that Pelosi’s (and Clinton II’s and Obama’s) stance against impeaching Bush) is not “real relevant” after I made my customary rude burping noise in the middle of the latest rah-rah-Obama thread.

This is the same board where somebody thought that whining “I have my own problems” was a legitimate response to my complaint that none of the fuckers running under the blue banner can talk ceasefire.

As I said, Bowers will fit right in when he arrives. >:

104. wu ming - 8 May 2008

arcturus –

cabaldon is the very same west sac mayor who did the BS gang injunction thing. along with the packing of the west sac democratic club with 700 new people (often latino or elderly voters, without their permission) to try and game the dem convention and get cabaldon the party endorsement for the primary, it’s why i’m not voting for him.

he’s got the party establishment firmly behind him (it’s “his turn”), but west sac’s not a big city relative to davis, vacaville or fairfield, so it’s not clear if he’ll coast through the primary or whether yamada can pull off an upset. whoever wins the primary wins the general, tho; it’s a pretty safe district, and getting more safe all the time.

105. ms_xeno - 8 May 2008

Also, did I tell you all this one: A political blogger I know (no names please) has a separate blog where they talk about their creative work. They have a picture taken in their living room of an award they won, and next to it is an old Nader-LaDuke campaign button from 2000. So they post some info about a new project they’re doing in both blogs, but in the “creative” blog they have the button AIRBRUSHED out because (as they write on their political blog) “I don’t want to get into a political discussion there.

I look at this and think to myself, Hey, why not just throw out the fucking button or put it in the damn attic, if it’s such a threat to your precious career. Naturally I didn’t write that.

It must be the pending arrival of Summer, but I sense my semi-annual SMBIVA post beginning to take form.

>: Free macaroons to whomever devises the winning title.

106. ms_xeno - 8 May 2008
107. wu ming - 8 May 2008

she’s in the lead now for the green nomination, right? the north coast has another antiwar candidate running in the democratic primary for the first congressional district, name of mitch clogg. along with sheehan’s challenge of pelosi, there’s some discontent simmering under the surface around here.

108. Arcturus - 8 May 2008

long, but worth the time:

Laura Carlson, The Militarization of Mexican Society: A Primer on Plan Mexico:

Soon the U.S. Congress will vote on the Initiative, popularly referred to as “Plan Mexico.” The little-known appropriations request has been tagged on to the multi-billion dollar Iraq supplemental bill [more! more! more wars in one!] and has been presented as an unprecedented effort to fight burgeoning drug trafficking and violence related to organized crime in Mexico. But the “regional security cooperation initiative” goes far beyond cooperation in stopping the flow of illegal drugs. It would fundamentally restructure the U.S.-Mexico binational relationship, recast economic and social problems as security issues, and militarize Mexican society.

109. liberalcatnip - 8 May 2008

New site: We Op-Ed. They’ve invited a select group of bloggers to join (including me – just checking to see if they know I’m Canadian before they sign me up) and hope to have “civilized discourse”. I guess that means I’m civilized? lol

110. Arcturus - 8 May 2008

104. looks like 2 wings of the ‘stablishment quiblling over which gets dipped in the sauce. ’bout as lovely as our (Sac’s) mayoral race. ick.

111. liberalcatnip - 8 May 2008

Free macaroons to whomever devises the winning title.

What’s the topic, ms x? I’m a friend of the macaroons.

112. Arcturus - 8 May 2008

yawhoops, here’s Laura C on Plan Mexico

113. Arcturus - 8 May 2008

poetry in the House (via TO), & I’m out:

>”Some of us oppose creating a new entitlement program in an emergency spending bill, whether it’s butchers, bakers or candlestick-makers,” said Rep. John Tanner (D-Tenn.), a founding member of the Blue Dog Coalition who serves on the House leadership team as a deputy whip.

The so-called GI Bill of Rights, authored by Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.), would give veterans money for college and cost $720 million in its first two years. But critics say that could grow to billions in future years.

114. liberalcatnip - 8 May 2008

Let the games begin. Where’s our special olympic-length campaign torch?

115. liberalcatnip - 8 May 2008

Schadenfraude: Olmert faces new corruption probe

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is suspected of illicitly accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars before becoming PM, Israeli media report.

And the most important part:

“I will resign from my job if the attorney general decides to issue an indictment against me.”

116. liberalcatnip - 8 May 2008

Obama plans to declare victory May 20. Red white & blue popcorn!

117. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 May 2008

Protest Camps Against American Military Bases in Japan and Italy

On the roof of the building for all military aircraft flying over and for those on the land to see, Mr. Kawase has painted in huge Japanese script, the text of Article 9 of the Japanese constitution:

“Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of forces as means of settling international disputes. In order to accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized.”

That is a big statement, both morally and physically. Mr. Kawase painstakingly painted every character on the roof himself.

The majority of Japanese citizens approve the spirit of Article 9, but some believe that Japan should commit Self-Defense Forces to international collective defense efforts, such as the authorization by the UN Security Council for an international military operation to remove Sadaam Hussein from Kuwait. In 2007 Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, in marking the 60th anniversary of the Japanese constitution, called for a review of the document to allow Japan to take on a larger role in global security, appealing to the Japanese people to consider this as a means to revive national pride.

Article 9 of the Japanese constitution is under seige by the Bush administration. They want Japan to provide more military support for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and the “war on terror.” In torpedoing Article 9, the Japanese government kowtowed to the force of the Bush administration and sent a refueling ship to the Indian Ocean to provide fuel to US warships and more recently have flown military transport aircraft into Iraq. Those actions have outraged millions of Japanese who do not want their country to become involved in the wars of other nations.

118. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 May 2008

A Picture Worth A Thousand Words

Newspaper Criticized For Publishing Photo
By Helen Thomas, Hearst White House columnist

07/05/08 “Hearst Newspapers” — — WASHINGTON — Some readers resented The Washington Post for publishing an Associated Press photograph of a critically wounded Iraqi child being lifted from the rubble of his home in Baghdad’s Sadr City “after a U.S. airstrike.”

Two-year-old Ali Hussein later died in a hospital.

As the saying goes, the picture was worth a thousand words because it showed the true horrors of this war.

Neither side is immune from the killing of Iraqi civilians. But Americans should be aware of their own responsibility for inflicting death and pain on the innocent.

The Post’s ombudsman, Deborah Howell, said about 20 readers complained about the photo, while a few readers praised the Post for publishing the stark picture on page one.

Some mothers said they were offended that their children might see the picture, though one wonders whether their youngsters watch television and play with violent videos in a pretend world.

From the start of the unprovoked U.S. “shock and awe” invasion of Iraq on March 20, 2003, the government tried to bar the news media from photographing flag-draped coffins of American soldiers returning from Iraq. A Freedom of Information lawsuit forced the government to release pictures of returning coffins.

Howell said some readers felt the photo of the Iraqi boy was “an anti-war statement; some thought it was in poor taste.” Well, so is war.

Howell said her boss, Executive Editor Len Downie, “is cautious about such photos.”

“We have seldom been able to show the human impact of the fighting on Iraqis,” Downie was quoted as saying. “We decided this was a rare instance in which we had a powerful image with which to do so.”

Oh, and I’m sure Mr. Downie and his bosses feel it’s “safe” now and won’t hurt circulation numbers.

119. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 May 2008
120. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 May 2008

Yup, racism is no longer an issue in this country. Keep repeating that, and don’t “rush to judgement” based on a video.

Unless, of course, that video shows a black man, then rush to all the judgements you want.

121. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 May 2008
122. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 May 2008

I know I shouldn’t laugh, but I did.

123. marisacat - 8 May 2008

btw, just today caught some early in the day local TV ads for someone else running against Pelosi. An older woman… I would say spry 60s… the ad is rather inventive. She uses a rubber chicken as a caraicature of Pelosi. “rubber spine, hey! that is JUST like Pelosi.” “And why is she such a chicken about impeachment?”

And so on. She narrates them herself. Has a website which I did not got to today. Shirley Golub… and the site is Shirley08.com


congrats! catnip on being asked to join the site. Will go check it out and add it to the blogroll…………………

124. marisacat - 8 May 2008


is that the film from Phildelphia?

I noticed in the aftermath… yesterday I guess that they have the old Chief of Police from The Hill in DC, forget his name. think it was Ramsay.

125. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 May 2008

Yup, it was Philly.

126. marisacat - 8 May 2008

LOL While I was at Counterpunch I landed on this thwack! thwack! thwack! at Obama for his Big Race Speech

127. NYCO - 8 May 2008

119. RFK would have been right on that.

Obama? Well, not so much.

128. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 May 2008

Washington’s Great “No Inflation” Hoax

That’s because the federal minimalization and misrepresentation of inflation, pursued statistically over the last 25 years, has been the main buttress of Washington’s over-favorable and self-serving portraiture of the U.S. economy.

Distortions aplenty have followed. Some of the most pernicious include the shortchanging of federal pension and Social Security obligations and cost of living increases, a parallel shortchanging of cost-of-living increases in wage contracts tied to the federal CPI, the suppression of equitable interest payments on bank accounts and certificates of deposit, and the camouflaging of weak U.S. economic growth through inadequate adjustments for inflation. The benefits to the executive branch in Washington jump out — huge annual federal savings on Social Security and pension outlays, as well as on the amount of interest paid on the federal government’s multi-trillion-dollar debt. Some $250 billion a year could be involved.

If many individuals are losers, many businesses and financial institutions have been winners. Minimal cost-of-living increases favor corporations, while low interest rates make money cheaper to the financial sector. In particular, the gargantuan $10 trillion increase in financial-sector debt since 1994 could become unmanageable if mounting inflation forced borrowing costs up to 8% or 9%. And it is axiomatic regarding equities that when rates rise in the bond market, that competition usually undercuts stock market values.

In short, there have been three big gainers from understatement of U.S. inflation: the federal government, wage-paying businesses and the institutions and markets of the swollen U.S. financial sector. But skeptics have a weighty counter: Okay, it’s easy to understand how they all might profit from understating inflation. But if the understatement is patently false, how can they hope to get away with it?

In fact, the belief by many conservative U.S. economists that inflation is under control, despite global indications to the contrary (including soaring commodity and energy prices), has a major ideological component — their fidelity to monetarist economic principles (that only money supply expansion can create inflation) and to the Efficient Markets Hypothesis (that markets process all available information, so that if inflation were serious, markets would have reacted already). As late as January, monetarists on the Federal Reserve Board, notably Chairman Ben Bernanke and colleague Frederic Mishkin, believed in the new-version CPI and argued that U.S. inflationary expectations were safely “anchored.”

Sums it up:

In theory, a vigilant Congress might want to hold hearings, but in practice I suspect not. Democratic presidents (notably Bill Clinton) have been involved in the numbers game along with Republican administrations. Neither party has clean hands. Far more likely that any serious investigation will be mounted clandestinely by central banks or sovereign wealth funds in places like China, Singapore and Saudi Arabia as part of their ongoing study of just how much longer they can continue to support a deteriorating U.S. dollar. It is not a happy prospect.

129. marisacat - 8 May 2008

Ben Smith has an update on the elderly nuns denied voting in Indiana He also links to Tumulty at TIME wo reports on the same thing with nuns in MO… He says at the top it will put an end to further GOP efforts on this matter. Why would it? It SHOULD, but I could see them just pushing on.

130. ms_xeno - 8 May 2008


…What’s the topic, ms x? I’m a friend of the macaroons.

Wait ! I need a TOPIC ?!?!

Oh, okay. I thought it would be about the airbrushed Nader pin, along with some rants about these annoying little “skin-deep” liberals that I’ve groused about here before. Oh, and maybe some fashion stuff and a bunch of blather about my sex life.

131. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 May 2008

I have a suggested title:

“Lefty Value$ Voter$”

132. ms_xeno - 8 May 2008

(snif !) Dude, that’s beautiful. Do you like chianti ?

[proffers glass, just in case.]

133. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 May 2008

yes, especially with fava beans!

134. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 May 2008

That Ben Smith link is a gem:

“This may sound like a good idea at first,” (translation: “we understand … you’re trying to keep the niggers and spics and poor people out”)stated Sister Sandy
Schwartz of the Franciscan Sisters of Mary regarding voter ID
requirements, “but once you stop to think about who would really be
(i.e. ME and other nice white folks you admire), this is going to keep a lot of our loved ones from being
able to vote.” Yesterday in Indiana twelve nuns in their 80s and 90s
were turned away from the polls because they lacked the needed IDs to
vote. Sister Schwartz and others are concerned about the difficulties
the policy change would create for elderly Missouri nuns, as well as
other senior citizens, the poor, and minorities.

Somehow, I don’t think she was concerned about the poor and minorities, given the “this might seem like a good idea” comment, but I am a cynical atheist with little or no patience for religious nuts.

135. marisacat - 8 May 2008

hey whatever floats Sister Sandy’s pure white boat. LOL.

It’s like Chula Vista (right on the border) having 4 abortion clinics. I certainly suspect that CA’s strong support for abortion has more than a whiff and a dash and soupcon of racism in it. And of course CV picks up business from across the border.

However we get there………………………………………. and they say I am not pragmatic…


136. ms_xeno - 8 May 2008

It must be Thursday. Time for me to send another “anonymous” request for Madman’s bannination. :p

137. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 May 2008

and I thought you LUVVVV’D me!


138. diane - 8 May 2008


…… but putting that card board cut out in the WH is the end of being able to argue there is institutionalised racism, to a desperate and horrible degree, in this country. White people will shut down any try at it, from here forward.

Ditto for women’s rights if Hillary ends up partnering with him, which I still believe was the deliberate steam vent the dems pawned off on us, a tawdry crackerjack prize….certainly won’t be voting for McCain though….may not even vote….it all seems absolutely useless………


Interesting the way this piece of not really so subtle propaganda reads,

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN08511697>US says 5-10 pct of Guantanamo inmates fight again

Instead of making the obvious correlation that at least 90 to 95% of the released detainees were possibly innocent, and shouldn’t have been detained in the first place (and that may be generous, since if not terrorists before detainment, they likely suffered enough torture to not only be terrorists, but actually insane) they of course look to the five to ten percent they claim “returned to terrorism.”

Who knows, maybe none of them returned to take up arms, there is no more credibility for the sea of lies and deception that we’re drowning in….

139. diane - 8 May 2008
140. marisacat - 8 May 2008

oh I think he and she are at the same spot for wimmens rights. Pander to the right, to the religious yahoos… and sell out women.

If I hear one more time his gibberish that women can choose after they consult with their family, husbnd, minister, etc., I will scream. Afer all some religioius whack job contacted him and he changed the language at his site. He has used that in speeches to show how open he is. Yes TO THE RIGHT.

And her “rare, and I do mean rare” just makes me think of a baby on barbq spit..

141. wu ming - 8 May 2008

if they’d thrown me in that hell hole, even if i’d just been some unlucky goatherd before i went in, you’d damn right better bet i’d be pretty pissed at the US after i got out.

142. moiv - 8 May 2008


It’s like Chula Vista (right on the border) having 4 abortion clinics. I certainly suspect that CA’s strong support for abortion has more than a whiff and a dash and soupcon of racism in it. And of course CV picks up business from across the border.

Medical tourism in reverse. Some time last year I read that 20% of the patients in San Diego clinics were residents of Mexico who crossed the border to obtain legal (otherwise known as safe) abortion care.

143. liberalcatnip - 8 May 2008

Gushing and googly-eyes.

Obama certainly seemed to get the conquering hero treatment. And for many, that’s what he is.

Ummm…and he’s a hero because…?

144. marisacat - 8 May 2008

new thread… and a pic…



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